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Germany expands the powers of special services up to reading correspondence in messengers

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The Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BFF), the Federal Intelligence Service (BND) and the German Military Counterintelligence Service (MAD) may be given additional powers to better combat terrorism. Many German politicians believe this decision is correct, and the Free Democratic Party of Germany (FDP) calls it a "sale of civil rights."


The newspaper Die Zeit reports.

In order to fight terrorism, German intelligence services must be allowed to read messenger applications such as WhatsApp. The federal government is scheduled to amend the law today. Thus, in the future, three German special services should be able to not only track current conversations in messengers, but also read messages sent through them.

The project also provides for a broader exchange of information between the MAD and the BFF. In addition, the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution can easily organize surveillance of individuals.

Thus, the government is learning from the terrorist attacks in Halle and Hanau, which were carried out by individuals who did not belong to any known radical group.

In Germany, not everyone is happy with the upcoming expansion of the powers of the special services. In particular, in a commentary on the publication of the newspaper Die Zeit, one of the readers expressed his criticism:

The Stasi were innocent pranksters compared to the modern intelligence services of the FRG. The question we want to ask ourselves as a society is how much of our personal freedom we want to sacrifice for contrived security.
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  1. mat-vey
    mat-vey 21 October 2020 17: 40
    +3
    All the same, terrorism is an ideal sponsor of special services ... First, bring in a bunch of migrants, help "fighters against regimes" - create ideal conditions for terrorists, and then request additional funds and powers to fight ...
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 21 October 2020 17: 44
      +6
      Not only, Terrorism (especially religious and national) is the ideal ground for the emergence of tough nationalism. The right in Germany is gaining more and more supporters.
      1. Machito
        Machito 21 October 2020 17: 54
        0
        The so-called Western Democracy increasingly reminds me of the KGB dictatorship. I remember listening to the Voice of America 30 years ago, and laughing at myself. Washington Regional Committee. Democracy died with the withdrawal of the Veche Bell from Veliky Novgorod. Modern democracy is the dictatorship of the oligarchy.
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 21 October 2020 21: 35
          +3
          You might think that the special services had not previously looked at other people's mail and did not record conversations ...
          laughing
          1. Babermetis
            Babermetis 21 October 2020 22: 53
            +1
            Quote: Shurik70
            You might think that the special services had not previously looked at other people's mail and did not record conversations ...
            laughing


            They could. But in court the channel was not broadcast due to "illegally received".
            1. Narak-zempo
              Narak-zempo 22 October 2020 21: 50
              0
              Quote: Babermetis
              They could. But in court the channel was not broadcast due to "illegally received".

              But he perfectly channels at all times for an extrajudicial solution of the issue :)
    2. MTN
      MTN 21 October 2020 17: 56
      -1
      Quote: mat-vey
      All the same, terrorism is an ideal sponsor of special services ..

      99% of terrorists work for special services. 99% of terrorist attacks are controlled by the special services of certain countries. Since the Germans write that they will read the messages, it means they are already reading.
      1. Senka naughty
        Senka naughty 21 October 2020 19: 02
        0
        Quote: MTN
        Quote: mat-vey
        All the same, terrorism is an ideal sponsor of special services ..

        99% of terrorists work for special services. 99% of terrorist attacks are controlled by the special services of certain countries. Since the Germans write that they will read the messages, it means they are already reading.

        Of course they read it, and from the very beginning, as soon as these applications were created, now they want to legitimize this surveillance in order to use it as evidence in court, a new level of crap.
  2. Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 21 October 2020 17: 43
    +3
    three German special services in the future should be able to not only track current conversations in instant messengers, but also read messages sent through them.
    The German special services will read my messages about which facility and how much concrete and rebar to bring today, and the American special services will read the messages of Merkel and the German Cabinet of Ministers concerning global foreign policy issues.

    Equal value .... I think my messages are SCARY interesting to the German special services ...
    1. Babermetis
      Babermetis 21 October 2020 22: 57
      +1
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      three German special services in the future should be able to not only track current conversations in instant messengers, but also read messages sent through them.
      The German special services will read my messages about which facility and how much concrete and rebar to bring today, and the American special services will read the messages of Merkel and the German Cabinet of Ministers concerning global foreign policy issues.

      Equal value .... I think my messages are SCARY interesting to the German special services ...


      All this information will be processed by super computers, not humans. The amount of information will not allow paying for human working hours. But when you receive targeted advertising on discounts on certain construction materials, you should know! AI is watching you
  3. credo
    credo 21 October 2020 17: 45
    +4
    "... in a commentary on the publication of the newspaper Die Zeit, one of the readers expressed his criticism:

    The Stasi were innocent pranksters compared to the modern intelligence services of the FRG. The question we want to ask ourselves as a society is how much of our personal freedom we want to sacrifice for contrived security. "
    -------------------------------------------------- -----
    What is dissatisfied with the local burgher who blames all the sins only on the "Stasi"?
    You might think that in the FRG, before the unification of Germany, the local special services were only engaged in cultivating flowers in a flower bed near their headquarters and catching butterflies in the garden, zealously protecting the personal freedom of pampered Germans.
  4. Oleg123219307
    Oleg123219307 21 October 2020 17: 45
    +5
    Putin is to blame !!! This is all he is, exactly. After all, it cannot be so that without an evil Putin, in a free, enlightened and liberal Germany, the screws were tightened. This only happens in terrible Russia, and it is always directed against rights, freedoms and crap!
  5. AllBiBek
    AllBiBek 21 October 2020 18: 01
    +3
    Ran over Echo and Medusa for how they would cover this news, and - silence. Deutsche Welle is also silent in Russian.
    As I understand it, this is different, you need to understand.
  6. Egoza
    Egoza 21 October 2020 18: 04
    +3
    But how many new (and expensive) messenger applications have been invented! And where are the guarantees that they have not been checked before? So you read and think that good old Skype is best.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 21 October 2020 18: 30
      +1
      Quote: Egoza
      So you read and think that good old Skype is best.

      Only pager, only hardcore! smile
    2. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 21 October 2020 19: 05
      +1
      Quote: Egoza
      But how many new (and expensive) messenger applications have been invented! And where are the guarantees that they have not been checked before? So you read and think that good old Skype is best.

      Skype was one of the first to be exposed for wiretapping users, and Russian programmers opened it, finding spyware in the software of the program.
      1. Rusticolus
        Rusticolus 21 October 2020 21: 43
        +1
        Skype was originally created without counting on wiretapping, they added this function after, with the next "update to improve ..." and all sorts of vatsap and tiktoki initially, according to the TK, have full control of all transmitted information.
  7. Gordei
    Gordei 21 October 2020 18: 30
    +8
    The Stasi were innocent pranksters compared to the modern intelligence services of the FRG.

    If so, I would still understand .. In Germany now, like in Ukraine, the CIA and other NSA are all around
    In the buildings of the special services, the upper floors are occupied and not allowed there without a special pass ..
    And the "Stasi" competed with the KGB of the USSR and even outnumbered them in operational work and recruitment ... The archives were taken out, Putin himself defended them, I remember, one went out to the crowd of protesters with a pistol and explained everything .. hi
    PS Just don't rush and kick right away .. The GDR was the most loyal to the Soviet Union, unlike others (God forgive me, damn it) And Grobach humiliated and betrayed them the most
    And Merkel humiliated Germany even more ...
  8. Gunther
    Gunther 21 October 2020 18: 55
    0
    yes, the boshes are lagging behind us in terms of the "fight against terrorism", they remember some "civil rights" ...
  9. Koval Sergey
    Koval Sergey 21 October 2020 19: 29
    16
    Yes, let them listen, maybe their ears will dry out ...
    And about all sorts of terrorists - they do not openly scribble
  10. Babermetis
    Babermetis 21 October 2020 22: 59
    0
    Quote: Egoza
    But how many new (and expensive) messenger applications have been invented! And where are the guarantees that they have not been checked before? So you read and think that good old Skype is best.

    ICQ is best, do you even know what it is?
  11. Generator Systems
    Generator Systems 22 October 2020 00: 02
    +1
    We have this for a long time only not officially fellow
  12. Maki maki
    Maki maki 22 October 2020 06: 43
    16
    Now Germany's intelligence services will have a real excuse for computer games in the workplace laughing
  13. t-12
    t-12 23 October 2020 16: 11
    -1
    Let them read it. They won't understand anything anyway. A cloudless sky over all of Spain. This is not to mention the quilted pictures of cats.