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Letter about service in a training school near St. Petersburg

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Letter about service in a training school near St. Petersburg

The field of training in military educational institutions has recently undergone repeated reforms. Military universities were moved from one city to another, then they started a merger, then certain faculties were closed under the slogan of optimization. It got to the point of suspending recruitment to certain military-special educational institutions with such an argument as "there are enough specialists in this VUS and so on."


There is also a separate topic in this area. These are the so-called tutorials.

Famous journalist Konstantin Semin raises the topic of training. On the air of the author's program, he reads a letter from a person who was trained in one of the training centers near St. Petersburg.

From the letter:

To serve, I ended up in a model company of a model battalion. Already at the first conversation with the chief of the company, he immediately told me: "You, my other, ended up serving, how to put it mildly, into an exemplary hole."

Further in the letter, a whole list of complaints about the service in the training course is voiced, including a complaint that "the service day did not end according to the regulations, but after the meeting, that little remains of the second day off." A complaint is also voiced that in case of loss of uniforms, its amount must be compensated.

Some of the complaints seem strange, and one gets the impression that the letter was written by an idealist who previously lived in "hothouse conditions."

Konstantin Semin reads out a letter of complaints:

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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc 21 October 2020 17: 46
    +1
    I was not sent to the sergeant school in the same age.
    At first I was upset, but then I realized that I was lucky, especially when the guys returned.
    During this time, I managed to figure out the possibilities provided by the service in the construction battalion.
    In particular, I made friends with the normalizer, who sometimes closed two shifts for me.
    Moreover, he found opportunities to earn money.

    1. Gato
      Gato 21 October 2020 18: 39
      +3
      I was not sent to the sergeant school in the same age.

      And me the opposite. April 1986 draft, student after 1 course almost without exception went to sergeant training. I ended up in the 171st Guards District Training Center (Tbilisi). Exemplary there it is in a swing indicative. After him, even the toughest regulations in the troops seemed like Makhnovism and slovenliness, and after the army I watched Full Metal Jacket with a condescending smile No.
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 21 October 2020 18: 43
        0
        I just dropped out of my first university after 1 year in 86 and went to work.
        Apparently I was not immediately identified as subject to conscription, since there was a military department at the university.
        They took away in 87 shortly before the new year.
        And without any summons.
        Came after the night shift, the doorbell rang and you are welcome to the recruiting office.
        Accompanied on the black Volga, provided by the regional committee of the Komsomol.
        1. Gato
          Gato 21 October 2020 18: 55
          +1
          In 1986 (Andropov's times), after the first year, students were taken, regardless of the presence of a military department. You somehow slipped through, apparently the recruiting office slowed down.
          But in this situation there were also positive sides: we all (except for the two who died in Afghanistan) returned to the 2nd year, and there the girls are 2 years younger fellow plus one additional day off per week - those who had sergeant ranks could not go to the military.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 October 2020 19: 45
      +4
      Quote: Livonetc
      In particular, I made friends with the normalizer, who sometimes closed two shifts for me.

      Serious act on your part, others will never admit it.
  2. credo
    credo 21 October 2020 17: 59
    +4
    There is nothing new in this, probably because it is done in many armies of the world.
    There was a demonstration training near Leningrad in Sertolovo. Maybe this is about her, but it's not so important.
    Apparently the young man, whose letter was read by Semin, did not find himself after college in civilian life and decided to get a job in the army for a while.
    Apparently it didn't work and the bummer came very soon.
    What conclusion can be drawn from this - "There is no place for idealists and opportunists in the army."
  3. K-50
    K-50 21 October 2020 18: 04
    +2
    A complaint is also voiced that in case of loss of uniforms, its amount must be compensated.

    Heh
    What kind of woodpecker you have to be to lose your uniform! belay fellow laughing
    1. Gato
      Gato 21 October 2020 18: 23
      +3
      about losing your outfit

      There is no concept of "losing" in the army laughing
      1. vitvit123
        vitvit123 21 October 2020 18: 24
        0
        Yes, nothing is lost in the army, everything .......
      2. K-50
        K-50 21 October 2020 19: 07
        +1
        Quote: Gato
        There is no concept of "losing" in the army

        Well, for this I "pro" and wrote before losing. repeat
        1. Gato
          Gato 21 October 2020 19: 17
          +1
          Sorry, I didn't notice. recourse
          By the way, it was elementary to love the form - for example, in the bath. For some reason, we didn’t have our own in training, so on Friday evening the platoon was driven into the city's civil bath. The locals could commune the Panamas, and the foreman once lost his officer's jacket.
    2. Engineer
      Engineer 22 October 2020 11: 44
      +1
      In the Gorokhovets training center, the soldiers slept with their uniforms under the mattress. Usually this is a life hack to dry faster after washing. But the person on duty told me that it was precisely from theft.
      Business sergeants flourished in Mulinskaya uchebka - they forced the spirits to wear two pea jackets at the exit from the dining room - their own and someone else's, newer.
      INFA 2005-2007
  4. Million
    Million 21 October 2020 18: 45
    +1
    Quote: Gato
    about losing your outfit

    There is no concept of "losing" in the army laughing

    there was the word "waffle" or "suck". Well, and a few more options)
  5. Million
    Million 21 October 2020 18: 46
    0
    The sergeant training is very good! Though you will see how everything should be in the army
    1. Gato
      Gato 21 October 2020 19: 22
      +1
      The sergeant training is very good! Though you will see how everything should be in the army

      This is yes, but it is better to observe from the side, and not participate directly in the process in the role of ... me ... a trainee in all holes. By the way, the officers in the training units are also not sweet, despite the higher rank in the position. For example, we had a major as a company commander, and two captains and a starley as platoon commanders.
      1. Million
        Million 21 October 2020 20: 04
        0
        Not sweet, of course, but at least you will feel the service, you will learn what a real army is. And platoon life, of course, is not sugar.
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  7. And why do you need
    And why do you need 22 October 2020 02: 50
    +1
    Everyone chooses the path for himself, must steadfastly endure the burdens of service.
  8. nznz
    nznz 23 October 2020 00: 46
    +2
    They took me from the second year of the evening Polytechnic University from the radio faculty. Suddenly, the session was on the nose, and then they called to the military registration and enlistment office, asked to see the passport and that's it. I never saw him again. I flew to the institute, on the way I took a couple of 2-liter bombs and a kilo of cookies. They sat down in the last rows and waved with a friend under a cookie. Then I went home, I communicated to everyone, met him, in the evening the quorum gathered. They sat down, waved wine .. and it dawned on someone to cut my hair. I was long-haired, the evening institute is not strict. Arr or I was naked, in the morning to the collection point and on the shipment for 0.8 days. They brought them half drunk by train, said the Grasshoppers. Nice name. This is a training manual of the 3th communications brigade near Podolsk. Schools of sergeants as it was called. But our platoon distinguished itself - they sent all sorts of seedlings to the nursery, or to dig out, I don't remember. They walked past the caps, but everything was bloody for wine, and they were cut like carabases drums. The sergeants did not leave, that they were not people. 14 ... They walked back as if they were returning to the cinema from the battle, those who remained in the ranks dragged the wounded and drunk under the arms not thrown dragged. They walked beautifully, not so uvu kappelets in the Chapaev film .. but such a brisk caterpillar with a drill song. Once upon a time there was a black cat around the corner .. Burst into the unit, the day off was Sunday. part of the company collapsed into bunks, I fell off on my feet. From a part that he knew when to stop, and he somehow knew how to maintain outward sobriety, lived in a working house and trained an advance paycheck. Junior Sergeant Dorofeev walked around and pestered with nonsense. zadval pstoy, why is your collar unbuttoned? Natural indignation, they say, buttoned up caused exhaust to the side of Dorofeev, he sucked in the torch with his nose and diagnosed. I still went to the dining room to eat. in the morning with a hangover for interrogation in the dryer. sergeants around the edges. In the center is Sergeant Joni, aka Zhernovkov Sergei Vladimirovich, the dude entered the army at almost 1971, was already a balding man of the animal-like look. Drank? no way! But this is talking to you drank? No way! 27 minutes screaming and hitting. Scary, I did not give anyone. However, they already knew everything. Someone merged everyone with whom and how much. Well, it was understandable, someone broke and started. The punishment was harsh. Every evening, exhausted by studies, then a chemical day and a proto-gas on the face, or a run in the OVZK with full gear, and now the platoon is built on the parade ground and on the command to retreat for 10 seconds, the platoon flies like an avalanche only up to the 45th or 5th floor of the barracks in the company. everything that along the way was swept away mercilessly, the last credit. When everyone managed to keep up with the fifth time (it was allowed to fill up the uniform on the stool after the lights out on command), a short rest and formation. The call, then the familiar words of the workmen go out of order. To the left, at the disposal of the company officer. Wash the toilet after whitewashing, who washed he knows that it’s possible to wash off the whitewash right away. We had nothing but water and rags. We washed until morning. At 4 am I let go, at 4 am I got up. 7 days of this hell.
    Personally, I caught another 10 outfits for work .. no one canceled clean boots in the ranks, even if you only stomped on the parade ground for two hours. I flew into the company to the bedside table, squatted down, pulled the heels with heels in one motion with a brush and I hear an unctuous voice - what is this? I look, the Johnny bastard has crept up, and the red face smiles. shows 2 fingers on the side - how many. Well, I hopelessly answer two. And he turns his palm and see the Roman 5.% of work orders. There is, and so on. Shot twice into the funnel does not fall. Lies, I checked it. Once again I ran in, the picture repeated itself, that was a bastard. I still have a patch to the full. The work is the same - to wash the toilet. He took revenge that he didn’t merge his own or something .. damn it knows. We distributed it to the unit. All privates .. Shock at first impressions. In training we saluted each other cadet cadet, not to mention daytime, etc. I enter the company - a warrior stands at the bedside table. The tunic is unbuttoned to the navel, the chest is hairy so that the fur crawls out. the belt hangs on the male device. without a garrison cap, it is under the shoulder strap. I automatically salute him, so he was taught, he told me at ease, son .. some Caucasian forgot his last name .. well, another life began, old people and grandfathers, hazing and clashes with the neighboring construction battalion .. yes, with their own too .. in / h 41 700, Vatutinki separate radio relay battalion. dmb1971-73.
  9. Sayan
    Sayan 23 October 2020 00: 55
    -3
    A soldier must steadfastly endure all the hardships and hardships of military service - did not like it in training, scratch in a gay club
  10. German Titov
    German Titov 23 October 2020 22: 21
    +3
    Quote: Sayan
    A soldier must steadfastly endure all the hardships and hardships of military service - did not like it in training, scratch in a gay club

    I very much agree with you. True, in my time there were no "gays". Those who did not serve in the Army were called differently. Well, I passed the KMB in Samarkand. I remembered the oath, the stupid "march-throws" because of the three shell casings that had been "pressed in" during the shooting. A hospital with pneumonia and the eyes of sergeants (Lithuanians), who, after a year and a half of "high" in training / after the flight / were sent with us by "Donetsk and Orenburg guys" (there was such a call) to Shindand. Compared to the fact that the sergeants were "hung" on the plane, it was a kindergarten, how they were met in the unit. The remaining six months in the army for them is not one and a half spent in "training". I don’t regret serving in the Army. The abbreviation "SERVICE": The Best Lesson in Life Was the Army. I have the honor to bow. drinks
  11. Petrik66
    Petrik66 6 November 2020 14: 50
    0
    Served in training in Tambov in 1984, sergeant platoon. The army remembered with laughter the sergeants who had no idea of ​​the real army and the only thing they were good for was "fatigue" in relation to the recruits. They knew nothing and did not know how. We did not have theft, despite 230 people from Central Asia, Siberian and Crimean Tatars, Belarusians, Moldovans, Russians, Balts. to steal the uniform in the troops? What for? Sell ​​an officer's jacket? Bullshit. I just whistled a badge from the form received for showing NATO and that's it. But here it is clear that his call for demobilization and resisted. I’m not sorry at all. I’m not from the village to come home as a "complete gentleman". And the author - he did not need to join the army.
  12. bubasa
    bubasa 2 December 2020 12: 36
    0
    that liberda began to dig out a dead bobby in the second round? ;) the training manuals are completely exhausted, and the curators advise you to improvise, but little mind, so they dig in - they dig out the same bikes. It means that the affairs of the liberda are very bad, it was not in vain that they piled shoals to Israel laughing Well, get together for one plane and under your belly from MANPADS laughing