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Terms of operation of the nuclear-powered icebreaker "Arktika" on the Northern Sea Route announced

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Terms of operation of the nuclear-powered icebreaker "Arktika" on the Northern Sea Route announced

The lead nuclear-powered icebreaker Arktika, project 22220, will begin operations on the Northern Sea Route in December this year. The corresponding decree was signed by Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin, the government's press service reports.


The lead universal nuclear icebreaker of project 22220 "Arktika" will be put into operation with a propeller shaft capacity of up to 50 MW. The decision will allow to start using the icebreaker in the water area of ​​the Northern Sea Route from December 2020

- said in a statement.

At the same time, it is specified that the icebreaker will go into operation with a faulty starboard propeller motor; it will be replaced in 2021 during docking in Kronstadt.

In 2021, a new starboard propeller motor will be installed at Arktika, which will increase the vessel's capacity to 60 MW

- noted in the document.

At present, the icebreaker "Arktika" is in Murmansk, where it arrived on October 12, 2020, having covered about 21 nautical miles in 4800 days of crossing from St. Petersburg. During the passage, the icebreaker specially went to the geographic point of the North Pole to test the operation of the propeller-rudder complex and the ship's electric propulsion system in ice conditions.

The Arctic nuclear icebreaker is the lead vessel of Project 22220 in a series of three vessels being built at the Baltic Shipyard in St. Petersburg under a contract with Rosatom.

A feature of the 22220 project icebreakers is the use of variable draft using ballast tanks. Double-deck ships can operate both in deep water and in shallow water in river beds, overcoming ice up to 3-meters thick without losing speed. According to project data, new icebreakers will become the largest and most powerful in the world.
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  1. GTYCBJYTH2021
    GTYCBJYTH2021 21 October 2020 10: 37
    -29 qualifying.
    You never know what Mishustin signs, while naming the timing, the situation will show whether the icebreaker will go or whether repair-maintenance will suddenly begin ...
    1. seregin-s1
      seregin-s1 21 October 2020 13: 56
      +2
      Actually, the news sounds like this:
      The world's most powerful nuclear-powered ship "Arktika", the lead ship of Project 22220, has officially entered the Russian nuclear fleet!
      The general directors of Atomflot Mustafa Kashka and the Baltiyskiy Zavod Aleksey Kadilov signed an acceptance certificate in the port of Murmansk. The national flag of Russia was raised on the icebreaker.
      The ceremony was attended by Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin.
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 21 October 2020 10: 38
    18
    There are two electric motors for each propeller. One flew off, but this did not prevent the Arctic from going to the state tests at the North Pole. We survived, all acceptance documents are signed on the atomic icebreaker, only after the trip to the North Pole. All who are against, we envy in silence. good
    1. slipped
      slipped 21 October 2020 11: 42
      11
      From aboard a nuclear-powered ship



      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 21 October 2020 11: 48
        +2
        Thank you. I miss Murmansk in Sochi. Northern lights, a tear has already struck. Tralflot 79 07 years. Thank you. Taking the photo! hi drinks
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 21 October 2020 11: 55
        +4
        Quote: slipped
        From aboard a nuclear-powered ship

        Seven feet under the keel, brother!
        drinks
      3. VALERIK_097
        VALERIK_097 21 October 2020 21: 44
        0
        No comments
        1. VALERIK_097
          VALERIK_097 22 October 2020 21: 30
          0
          (((Nobody recognized the old "Arctic"?
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 October 2020 12: 00
      +2
      Quote: tralflot1832
      We survived, all acceptance documents are being signed for the nuclear icebreaker

      Well, if the Register of Shipping has authorized an exit to the sea, it means that the ship is in a seaworthy condition. And for a shipyard, a lot of things need to be signed, money is hanging everywhere.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 21 October 2020 12: 08
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: tralflot1832
        We survived, all acceptance documents are being signed for the nuclear icebreaker

        Well, if the Register of Shipping has authorized an exit to the sea, it means that the ship is in a seaworthy condition. And for a shipyard, a lot of things need to be signed, money hangs everywhere

        Normal practice. Like European shipowners, however ...
        The main thing is for the register surveyor to heed the requests of the ship owner's representative that "minor flaws" can (and will) be corrected in the near future.
        And "envelope" with gratitude. Or transfer to a bank card.
        Everything as usual...
  3. Alien From
    Alien From 21 October 2020 10: 42
    +9
    Some kind of hidden power is felt, seven feet under the keel!
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 21 October 2020 10: 46
      -4
      But the wheelhouse needs to be repainted, icebreaking red should be. The only drawback. hi
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 October 2020 12: 13
        +3
        Quote: tralflot1832
        But the wheelhouse needs to be repainted, icebreaking red should be. The only drawback.

        Well, not quite so, there is no such rule as painting ships. In Soviet times there were certain norms, but now they are not. At least ....

        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 21 October 2020 12: 42
          +1
          repeat We have convinced everyone, icebreaker red, we remove from discussion. How it will be painted is not so important, the most important thing is an atomic icebreaker.
    2. slipped
      slipped 21 October 2020 11: 43
      +9
      Quote: Alien From
      Some kind of hidden power is felt, seven feet under the keel!


      Just beautiful

  4. Livonetc
    Livonetc 21 October 2020 10: 43
    +8
    It is restless in Central Asia.
    Transcaucasia is storming.
    The projects being developed by China on various "silk" and other routes do not yet look reliable.
    In these conditions, the NSR becomes even more relevant.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 21 October 2020 11: 09
      +5
      Yesterday I was on a marine traffic on the NSR. It was fun to walk. November is already on the nose. I suspect the Chinese have started using it. For now, they are trying it a little. Obviously, two gas carriers are going to Japan or China. Icebreakers are not positioned, and it should not be like that. hi
    2. Machito
      Machito 21 October 2020 11: 37
      +1
      Through the North Pole - the shortest road to the sworn partner of the United States. We will not catch up with the United States in the usual navy, but we have already surpassed the icebreaker. We need to increase our advantage.
  5. Old Bolshevik
    Old Bolshevik 21 October 2020 10: 43
    -18 qualifying.
    All that remains is to pump oil and gas from the Russian part of the Arctic to the West - and the Russian project can be closed with confidence! He worked his way.
    1. Kart
      Kart 21 October 2020 10: 51
      +7
      Yours would quickly close it, of course. The more is done in Russia, the more your envy bursts.
      So I want to grab everything in a Bolshevik way again.
      1. Old Bolshevik
        Old Bolshevik 21 October 2020 12: 01
        -2
        Don't you understand WHAT all this is being done for? Exclusively for pumping raw materials, oil, gas from the Arctic and nothing else.
        Has Putin built many hundreds of state-of-the-art plants of advanced microelectronics over the past 20 years?
        1. Ded_Mazay
          Ded_Mazay 21 October 2020 13: 16
          +4
          Well, yes, when the USSR was building "Urengoy - Pomary - Uzhgorod" to pump gas to Europe - this is normal. And when Russia is engaged in the same and for the same purposes, it is "fu fu fu".
          To be honest, some have already pulled up with their hypocritical pseudo-patriotic demagogy.
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 21 October 2020 11: 09
      +7
      Quote: Old Bolshevik
      All that remains is to pump oil and gas from the Russian part of the Arctic to the West - and the Russian project can be closed with confidence! He worked his way.

      No dear, everything is just beginning! Barque "Sedov" sailed the entire NSR from Vladivostok. So the shortest route from Asia to Europe is quite a real business, not only oil and gas
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 21 October 2020 13: 32
        +3
        Bark Sedov is the only sailing ship in the world that has a license for the passage of the Drake Passage under the rails, there is one that passed the NSR. To ride it for the moneybags, the price rises sharply. Met him in the Canaries, there were 4 millionaire travelers who like to sail.
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 21 October 2020 11: 26
      +2
      well, why don't you want to close the states?) are they, as it were, engaged in production and sale in huge quantities?)))) they are supposedly allowed, but not for us?)))
    4. DrEng527
      DrEng527 21 October 2020 11: 47
      +3
      Quote: Old Bolshevik
      He worked his way.

      about round timber in your picture is outdated! bully
      1. frog
        frog 21 October 2020 21: 18
        0
        With what, sorry, fright ??
        1. DrEng527
          DrEng527 22 October 2020 13: 50
          0
          Quote: frog
          With what, sorry, fright ??

          read the decrees of the GDP ... bully
    5. Genry
      Genry 21 October 2020 12: 01
      -2
      Quote: Old Bolshevik
      All that remains is to pump oil and gas from the Russian part of the Arctic to the West - and the Russian project can be closed with confidence!

      The Bolsheviks (communists) have already sold and closed the USSR.
      And oil and round timber are recoverable resources (oil is of mineral and not organic origin, as was previously thought).
    6. VALERIK_097
      VALERIK_097 21 October 2020 21: 57
      0
      Let me modestly remind you about the "forgotten" Shtokman gas condensate field. Something went wrong for 15 years, but it was explored, the volumes are known, they probably left a stash for our children.
  6. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 21 October 2020 10: 44
    12
    The news cannot but please! Arctic - Russian, who would not invent something for themselves! The Northern Sea Route - will only gain momentum in use!
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 21 October 2020 13: 42
      +6
      Quote: Hunter 2
      The news cannot but please! Arctic - Russian, who would not invent something for themselves! The Northern Sea Route - will only gain momentum in use!

      Greetings comrade! The Angles tried to seize the Northern Sea Route, starting from the XNUMXth century! While the Pomors as far back as the XII century reached the Ob Bay and to Severnaya Zemlya. MV Lomonosov, DI Mendeleev devoted many works to this. For example, both O. E. Kotzebue and John Franklin tried to pass the Northwest Route, and the first was the Norwegian Amundsen.
      Russia has a clear advantage
  7. And
    And 21 October 2020 10: 45
    +4
    Good news, the main thing is that the existing malfunction does not lead to negative consequences.
  8. rudolff
    rudolff 21 October 2020 10: 47
    -9
    The superstructure is very high. I can imagine what kind of pitching will be on the navigating bridge.
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 21 October 2020 10: 51
      +1
      Don't write nonsense. Where have you seen rolling in the frozen, ice-covered sea? Of course, I understand that you are working according to the training manual and must whine under every good news about Russia. But at least sometimes the pumpkin must be turned on. Although ... People of a narrow mind become liberators.
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 21 October 2020 10: 55
        +2
        Firstly, he will have to walk not only on ice, but also on open water. Secondly, it breaks the ice by piling on the body.
        1. Kot_Kuzya
          Kot_Kuzya 21 October 2020 11: 04
          -1
          Why would an ICEBREAKER walk on open water? An icebreaker is an icebreaker to walk on sea ice. On open water, an icebreaker is not needed from the word "absolutely". What will the icebreaker do in open water?
          Quote: rudolff
          he breaks the ice with his body.

          Do you imagine an icebreaker as such a cleaving ax? The network is full of videos where the icebreaker goes on the ice, and the ship has no up-and-down amplitude. The icebreaker has a huge mass, and it simply pushes down and breaks the ice with its mass.
          1. Tiksi-3
            Tiksi-3 21 October 2020 11: 09
            +3
            Quote: Kot_Kuzya
            Why would an ICEBREAKER walk on open water?

            laughing So he left for example from Murmansk ..... there the water is open and went through the Karsky gate to Tiksi)) .... he must go to the pack ice in open water !!!! ........)))
            1. Kot_Kuzya
              Kot_Kuzya 21 October 2020 11: 18
              -3
              First, there are no tropical cyclones, hurricanes, or other typhoons in the Barents Sea. This is not the Caribbean Sea, the Gulf of Mexico or the South China Sea. Secondly, he will not go to Tiksi, there is nothing to do there, a village with a population of 5 thousand people, where the seaport was closed long ago. The icebreaker will operate in the Kara Sea and at the mouth of the Yenisei, paving the way for ships to Dudinka and back. That is why the icebreaker was made capable of working both at sea and on rivers.
              1. Tiksi-3
                Tiksi-3 21 October 2020 11: 23
                +5
                Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                he will not go to Tiksi, there is nothing to do there, a village with a population of 5 thousand people, where the seaport was closed long ago.

                ????? The port works, only the Arctic cannot enter it ... shallow, but it is easy to lead the caravan to the raid! And this is his task! Secondly, I got into such a storm in the Laptev Sea that I don't care how it was off the coast of Mexico!
                Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                The icebreaker will operate in the Kara Sea and at the mouth of the Yenisei, paving the way for ships to Dudinka and back. That is why the icebreaker was made capable of working both at sea and on rivers.

                wassat The Arctic will work along the entire Arctic coast !!! ... and not for Dudinka))))))
                1. Kot_Kuzya
                  Kot_Kuzya 21 October 2020 11: 39
                  -3
                  Port handling microscopic scale
                  ... The cargo turnover of the port of Tiksi itself, with a historical record of 850 thousand tons in 1981 after a protracted decline in the period from the late 90s to 2010s (in 2010 - 7 thousand tons, in 2013 - 7,2 thousand tons) today has stabilized at about 40 thousand tons per year.

                  http://www.morvesti.ru/exclusive/81615/
                  Quote: Tiksi-3
                  secondly, I got into such a storm in the Laptev Sea that I don't care how it was off the coast of Mexico

                  Don't write nonsense. I have been to Tiksi, and I know that there is no strong wind there in summer. It blows out there in winter, up to 30-35 meters. In summer, the wind is 15-20 meters maximum. Whereas in tropical cyclones the wind can blow up to 50 meters, or even more.
                  1. Tiksi-3
                    Tiksi-3 21 October 2020 12: 08
                    +3
                    Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                    Don't write nonsense. I've been to Tiksi, and I know

                    in this case you write nonsense !! you have been there, and I lived there!
                    1. Kot_Kuzya
                      Kot_Kuzya 21 October 2020 12: 15
                      -4
                      What were the two hotels in Tiksi called? And where are they located?
                      And how is the word "anal" translated from Yakut?
                      1. Tiksi-3
                        Tiksi-3 21 October 2020 12: 30
                        +2
                        Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                        What were the two hotels in Tiksi called? And where are they located?

                        surname of the beginning of the port, what is the name of the island in front of the port, how many villages are TIKSI, what is the name of all the rivers in Tiksi, on which street is all the Soviet power? when is the holiday of the sun? ......
                        I lived in the military TIKSI and there all my life there is only one hotel ARKTIKA, opposite the school, she is there alone.
                        if I strain my memory, I remember how the hotel was called in a civilian settlement
                      2. Kot_Kuzya
                        Kot_Kuzya 21 October 2020 12: 44
                        -1
                        Brusnev Island. In Tiksi-1 hotel "Sailor". "Anal" is translated from Yakut as "destination". When we saw a store with that name in Yakutsk, we almost fell with laughter. Then they explained to us that this was not at all what we thought.
                      3. Tiksi-3
                        Tiksi-3 21 October 2020 12: 47
                        +3
                        Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                        Brusnev Island.

                        it is not called that, Brusneva ....... island Brusnev !!
                        all rivers Snezhinka ... 1-2-3-4-5-6 .., about the villages of Tiksi-1 (port) Tiksi-2 (local) Tiksi-3 (military)
                        I do not speak Yakutsk and is not very interesting
                        I lived there 3 full days! ... I hope I don't need to explain how much is this?
                      4. Kot_Kuzya
                        Kot_Kuzya 21 October 2020 13: 04
                        -4
                        Tiksi-2 is a cemetery.
                        Quote: Tiksi-3
                        I lived there 3 full days! ... I hope I don't need to explain how much is this?

                        Don't write nonsense. Day and night last a year only at the poles. In Tiksi, from early February to early May, the sun sets and rises every day.
                      5. Sandor Clegane
                        Sandor Clegane 21 October 2020 14: 12
                        +2
                        Quote: Tiksi-3
                        it is not called that, Brusneva ....... island Brusnev !!

                        hi drinks exactly, the graveyard of ships, now there is a tanker that burned for a long time ((
                        Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                        Don't write nonsense. Day and night last a year only at the poles

                        nonsense? you tell those who lived there in person and they will feed you to the lemings)), pancake connoisseur, you better shut up
                      6. Kot_Kuzya
                        Kot_Kuzya 21 October 2020 14: 45
                        -4
                        Don't write nonsense, "expert". I lived in Tiksi from April to September 2009 and from April to July 2014. So I know when there is a polar day.
                      7. Sandor Clegane
                        Sandor Clegane 21 October 2020 14: 50
                        +2
                        Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                        Don't write nonsense, "expert". I lived in Tiksi from April to September 2009 and from April to July 2014. So I know when there is a polar day.

                        why did you live there ??, don’t make my hooves laugh, at least I lived with Tiksi-3 at different times, he lived for three days, I’m alone, and for us those who lived there for 1 day or more so it is customary to say, explained? you saw a real polar night, at the point, blizzard -39, and they tell you that the change is in a week, you know what a point in the tundra is, on a polar night, in conditions when no one will come to you for sure? troll then feed? .... carefully the doors are closed, the next station without a cat!
                      8. Kot_Kuzya
                        Kot_Kuzya 21 October 2020 15: 31
                        -7
                        I'm not there to spend the winter. Well nafig him. The April weather was not enough for me.
  • rudolff
    rudolff 21 October 2020 11: 39
    +1
    The captain's mate explains at about 6 minutes that there is a pitching problem.
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    2. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 21 October 2020 11: 44
      -3
      I repeat once again: there are no tropical cyclones in the Barents Sea! So calm down, the icebreaker will not turn upside down with its keel.
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 21 October 2020 11: 48
        +4
        Here is the Arctic on the high seas in fresh weather.
        [media = https: //youtu.be/KydkU0KuW30]
        1. rudolff
          rudolff 21 October 2020 11: 54
          +6
          I will not post videos of bumping on other atomic icebreakers and how they ram thick ice several times, it is useless to explain to you on a trip. It pumps icebreakers even more than other ships because of the special hull contours. And there are enough storms in the Barents, Norwegian and other Arctic seas.
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 21 October 2020 12: 01
            -5
            The Norwegian Sea is not arctic, it does not freeze anywhere. On the polar Lofoten Islands in the Norwegian Sea, the average January temperature is about -2, as in Odessa.
            1. rudolff
              rudolff 21 October 2020 12: 55
              +5
              What difference does it make what the Norwegian Sea is if the Arctic has to be from the North Atlantic to the Chukchi Sea. Yes, and in the Barents storm there are fun.
              In the first video, the captain's mate explains that there are problems with pitching due to specific hull contours. The height of the vessel is more than 50 meters. Walking bridge at 10-12 floors. Test Drive journalists say that St. Isaac's Cathedral is below the level of the navigating bridge. The second video shows how the Arctic buries its nose into a wave in a relatively weak storm. Considering the height of the superstructure, amplitude fluctuations at the level of the bridge will be a minimum of several meters. Due to the large displacement, the oscillations are smooth, but very amplitude. For fun, you can watch how other nuclear icebreakers storm, bless you. And how an icebreaker breaks thick ice, I experienced it myself. The tank is very noticeable up and down, plus strong vibration throughout the body.
        2. Sandor Clegane
          Sandor Clegane 21 October 2020 14: 28
          +2
          Quote: rudolff
          Here is the Arctic on the high seas in fresh weather.

          hi drinks friend, to whom are you trying to explain ?, this is an ordinary troll, drink ale) and forget about the cat
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 October 2020 14: 10
        +1
        Quote: Kot_Kuzya
        there are no tropical cyclones in the Barents Sea! So calm down, the icebreaker will not turn upside down with its keel.

        But icing throughout the scheme. Live and bask, the North is the school of life.
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  • novel66
    novel66 21 October 2020 11: 04
    0
    maybe there is a system against rolling?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 October 2020 14: 02
      +1
      Quote: novel xnumx
      maybe there is a system against rolling?

      This is only available on passengers. Yes, and you get used to pitching in 10 years, "As a person gets used to everything, so MoMu got used to city life."
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 21 October 2020 11: 27
    +2
    It is tight on the NSR with storms in the ice, but when switching to warranty repairs in Leningrad, I completely agree with you.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 21 October 2020 12: 47
    +3
    Quote: rudolff
    The superstructure is very high. I can imagine what kind of pitching will be on the navigating bridge.

    The superstructure is excellent, just what you need. The main thing is an excellent overview, especially when the ships are rounded up, whiskers and maneuvering between ships. The "krigolomshchiki" waited a long time for such a superstructure, otherwise I remember the old "Kiev", where you run like crazy from wing to wing.
    A person who went to the seas should know that he talks in the seas and rests on Lake Ritsa.
    1. rudolff
      rudolff 21 October 2020 13: 01
      +3
      You always have to sacrifice something. Good visibility from the bridge outweighs the other disadvantages of such a tall superstructure. I'm not arguing here.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 October 2020 13: 43
        +1
        Quote: rudolff
        Good visibility from the bridge outweighs the other disadvantages of such a tall superstructure.

        A good bridge for masters and navigators, the most important thing in their work and life at sea. Visibility, convenience, everything is at hand (a toilet is required), and of course navigation equipment, especially radars.
  • barin
    barin 21 October 2020 10: 57
    22
    In my opinion - the right decision. If the power reserve allows you to start operation, there is nothing to stand idle and time to waste. All the same, this is the lead ship.
  • Gunther
    Gunther 21 October 2020 10: 58
    +6
    Quote: Author
    .... and in shallow water in river beds, breaking ice up to 3 meters thick without losing speed

    for our north ...
    seven feet under the keel good
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 21 October 2020 11: 13
    +4
    By the way, when he went fishermen, our sailor went to the nuclear fleet. Received from the new building, 50 years of Victory. Nationality: Azerbaijani, not everyone sells in the markets.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 October 2020 12: 51
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Received from the new building, 50 years of Victory.

      Yes, an interesting fate of this icebreaker "50 Let Pobedy" ("Ural"). It was the eighth nuclear power plant, the largest before the Arctic. There were no such people in the world. There is something to be proud of the Soviet Union.
  • Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 21 October 2020 11: 46
    +1
    Great news! The NSR is a strategic "highway".
  • iouris
    iouris 21 October 2020 11: 50
    -2
    "It's a pity that neither me nor you will have to live this wonderful time."
  • amr
    amr 21 October 2020 12: 49
    0
    Quote: carstorm 11
    well, why don't you want to close the states?) are they, as it were, engaged in production and sale in huge quantities?)))) they are supposedly allowed, but not for us?)))

    So what? they eat cucumbers, what do we do too ...
    they can both production and sale, so they have microelectronics and everything else of their own, and if there are factories in China and Russia, it’s ov’s factories, and we are pumping oil!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 October 2020 13: 47
      -1
      Quote: amr
      They eat cucumbers, too, as we do.

      One vinegar and salt, let them eat their own cucumbers, and eat hot dogs.
  • ZEMCH
    ZEMCH 21 October 2020 15: 58
    +1
    Seven feet under the keel!
    The lead ship will be driven until all the "childish" sores appear on the new technology in order to fix the serial ones, such is the life of the lead ships.
    I am glad that we are developing the Nuclear Fleet, we need to increase our advantages in the areas in which we are ahead wink
  • Gordei
    Gordei 21 October 2020 17: 03
    +4
    The icebreaker fleet in Russia is the most powerful in the world and its further expansion is underway.
    The fight for the Arctic is just beginning! The prospects for the Arctic have so far only been roughly calculated, and not only in economic terms.
  • Old26
    Old26 21 October 2020 17: 21
    +5
    Quote: Ded_Mazay
    Well, yes, when the USSR was building "Urengoy - Pomary - Uzhgorod" to pump gas to Europe - this is normal. And when Russia is engaged in the same and for the same purposes, it is "fu fu fu".
    To be honest, some have already pulled up with their hypocritical pseudo-patriotic demagogy.

    Yeah, and at the same time they take a patriotic nickname and always Joseph Vissarionovich on the avatar.

    Quote: Kot_Kuzya
    Don't write nonsense. Where have you seen rolling in the frozen, ice-covered sea? Of course, I understand that you are working according to the training manual and must whine under every good news about Russia. But at least sometimes the pumpkin must be turned on. Although ... People of a narrow mind become liberators.

    And from the port he will probably teleport to the edge of the ice? And on open water with excitement there will never be
    And nonsense, as you say, was written by a submarine officer of the Northern Fleet. Well, since I wrote something "negative", it means only According to the manual ...