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The United States will move the military closer to the Russian border: Moscow is ready for retaliatory actions

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The United States will move the military closer to the Russian border: Moscow is ready for retaliatory actions

The United States intends to deploy a mechanized brigade near Russian borders not on a rotational basis, but on a permanent basis, such a possibility is being studied. This was stated by the head of the Pentagon Mark Esper.


The US Secretary of Defense came to the conclusion about the possibility of deploying American troops on a permanent basis near the borders of Russia after signing an agreement on defense cooperation with Poland, as well as negotiations with Romania, Bulgaria and the Baltic countries.

After signing a defense cooperation agreement with Poland and my recent meetings with defense ministers from Romania and Bulgaria, as well as messages received from the Baltic states, there is a real opportunity to keep the 2nd Cavalry Brigade at the forefront in some of these countries on an extended basis

- declared Esper.

The head of the Pentagon added that the United States has plans to transfer part of its military personnel as part of the European redeployment to Bulgaria, Romania and the Baltic states. At the same time, the US Department of Defense is interested in the location of the formations withdrawn from Germany as close to the Russian borders as possible.

As the Pentagon spokesman explained, commenting on Esper's statements, the Ministry of Defense is studying the possibility of redeploying the Second Armored Regiment of the US Ground Forces from Germany to another European country closer to the borders of Russia on a permanent basis, but a decision has not yet been made.

The planning process for the proposed steps continues. This includes consultations with our allies and partners in the region, as well as members of Congress.

- he added.

Moscow is closely monitoring the redeployment of American troops in Europe, their possible deployment closer to the Russian borders, and admitting a possible violation by Washington of the fundamental Russia-NATO act. As previously stated in the Ministry of Defense, the strengthening of NATO near the Russian borders will lead to retaliatory actions, up to the termination of all agreements between Russia and NATO. In addition, Russia and Belarus are stepping up their joint exercises "Union Shield" and "Slavic Brotherhood".
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  1. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 21 October 2020 09: 07
    12
    strengthening NATO near Russian borders will lead to retaliatory actions

    sure sure.
    Place our tanks in Mexico?
    It's funny about our "response", although in fact it's time to cry.
    1. anjey
      anjey 21 October 2020 09: 40
      26
      It was necessary to cry under Gorby and Yelets, but now we must act.
      1. Hypertension
        Hypertension 21 October 2020 12: 33
        +1
        Quote: anjey
        It was necessary to cry under Gorby and Yelets, but now we must act.

        We are already in action. We were going to reduce the army at the suggestion of the Ministry of Finance ...
        1. ZEMCH
          ZEMCH 21 October 2020 14: 49
          +4
          Quote: Hyperion
          We are already in action. We were going to reduce the army at the suggestion of the Ministry of Finance ...

          The Ministry of Defense has already answered:
          The Russian Ministry of Defense sent to the Security Council of the Russian Federation a document on the inadmissibility of the proposals of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation to reduce the size of the Armed Forces and change certain provisions of the system of social guarantees for servicemen, the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper reported on October 20.

          The Russian military department has carried out a careful analysis of the contents of the proposals of the Ministry of Finance and officially declares its lack of support.

          It is emphasized that the measures proposed by the Ministry of Finance to reduce positions will lead to a "zero" economic effect, but at the same time will significantly worsen the material well-being and social status of Russian servicemen.

          In addition, the military department recalls the unsuccessful experience of "reforms" in 2007-2012 and the results of the then reductions in military personnel related to the support structures.

          This experience has proved "its ineffectiveness and has led to numerous problematic issues affecting the combat effectiveness of the Armed Forces," the Russian Defense Ministry recalls.

          "In the course of military operations, exercises and maneuvers carried out by the Armed Forces, the need to keep servicemen there is clearly confirmed," the Russian military department emphasizes.

          In addition, a number of proposals of the Ministry of Finance indicate a lack of understanding of the fundamental principles of the functioning of the Armed Forces.

          “Military service is a special type of public service directly related to ensuring the country's defense and state security. The nature of this service presupposes that servicemen perform tasks that pose a threat to life and health, ”the Russian Defense Ministry recalls.
          1. Hypertension
            Hypertension 21 October 2020 16: 50
            +6
            Quote: ZEMCH
            The Ministry of Defense has already answered:

            Well if so. But why the hell does the Treasury even stutter on this topic? The soil is probed, not otherwise. They drive with a sting: what else would "optimize".
            1. ZEMCH
              ZEMCH 21 October 2020 16: 53
              +4
              Liberators, they are)))
            2. anjey
              anjey 22 October 2020 08: 52
              +1
              There are certain forces that from within increase the degree of dissatisfaction of the Russian people with all sorts of political and economic perversions.
        2. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 21 October 2020 22: 15
          +2
          It's time for the Russian state to clean up its "Augean stables".
      2. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 21 October 2020 12: 43
        +2
        The retaliatory actions could be the deployment of Russian troops in Bolivia, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba and Mexico. Will there be a retaliatory move?
        1. Evil 55
          Evil 55 21 October 2020 15: 58
          0
          They are already there .. no doubt .. hi
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 21 October 2020 16: 46
            0
            Quote: Evil 55
            They are already there .. no doubt .. hi

            Well, I guess not everywhere, there is still work to do! lol
          2. Aitvaras
            Aitvaras 23 October 2020 07: 05
            0
            And the military orders "For the City of Washington" for the valor and courage shown in battles during the liberation of this city have already been minted and are waiting for their heroes.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 22 October 2020 08: 00
        0
        Quote: anjey
        It was necessary to cry under Gorby and Yelets, but now we must act.

        If we all acted under these two dogs of capitalism, we would not cry now, but laugh.
    2. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 21 October 2020 10: 34
      15
      The time will come when they will say that they are deploying their brigades in Ukraine.
    3. Sergey Obraztsov
      Sergey Obraztsov 21 October 2020 19: 34
      0
      A dozen Iskander with a nuclear warhead and decent air defense would have set fire to perdaks of the media around the world ... Everyone would have forgotten about Navalny for a certain time.
  2. Tusv
    Tusv 21 October 2020 09: 08
    -6
    Let's go according to Bismarck. Answer with utter stupidity. Do not consider the countries of the Warsaw Pact and the USSR as NATO countries and openly blame about it
  3. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 21 October 2020 09: 09
    +8
    will lead to retaliatory actions, up to the termination of all agreements between Russia and NATO.
    So what? Will our armored divisions be deployed closer to America? In Mexico or Canada?
    1. Bomb
      Bomb 21 October 2020 09: 26
      -5
      No. In response, on a personal liner bought with stolen money, you can quickly and successfully dump across the front line to the kids ...
    2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 21 October 2020 09: 26
      +1
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      will lead to retaliatory actions, up to the termination of all agreements between Russia and NATO.
      So what? Will our armored divisions be deployed closer to America? In Mexico or Canada?

      To begin with, Russia can withdraw from the DON and the CFE Treaty.
      1. Pashhenko Nikolay
        Pashhenko Nikolay 21 October 2020 10: 37
        15
        Rather, the Americans will withdraw from all the remaining treaties. And Russia has to attend to it for the hundredth time.
      2. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 21 October 2020 10: 37
        +4
        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        will lead to retaliatory actions, up to the termination of all agreements between Russia and NATO.
        So what? Will our armored divisions be deployed closer to America? In Mexico or Canada?

        To begin with, Russia can withdraw from the DON and the CFE Treaty.

        So already, your information is a little ... Formally, we have not come out yet, but participation has been frozen since 2007 if I'm not mistaken
      3. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 21 October 2020 11: 10
        +3
        Russia withdrew from the CFE Treaty long ago
      4. Alf
        Alf 21 October 2020 12: 05
        13
        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
        To begin with, Russia can withdraw from the DON and the CFE Treaty.

        Once they left the Council of Europe proudly, slamming the door. Then, however, they returned, and they paid money for the absence ...
      5. Doliva63
        Doliva63 21 October 2020 17: 36
        +1
        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        will lead to retaliatory actions, up to the termination of all agreements between Russia and NATO.
        So what? Will our armored divisions be deployed closer to America? In Mexico or Canada?

        To begin with, Russia can withdraw from the DON and the CFE Treaty.

        And then - from SWIFT, right? laughing
    3. Primipilus
      Primipilus 21 October 2020 12: 04
      +1
      Quite enough for Cuba, turning it into an unsinkable aircraft carrier (air defense; electronic warfare; cruise missiles) 180 km from the United States.
      1. jaroff
        jaroff 21 October 2020 12: 13
        +5
        Have the Cubans been asked?
  4. Gardamir
    Gardamir 21 October 2020 09: 11
    0
    Now everyone will rush to scold amers and NATO. But here it is strange in the Great Patriotic War, of course they scold Hitler, but they are more proud of Stalin.
    So now, will the Kremlin give reason for pride or again express concern for fear of offending its partners.
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 21 October 2020 09: 27
      -3
      Quote: Gardamir
      Now everyone will rush to scold amers and NATO. But here it is strange in the Great Patriotic War, of course they scold Hitler, but they are more proud of Stalin.
      So now, will the Kremlin give reason for pride or again express concern for fear of offending its partners.

      About "to offend partners" .... The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was sort of the same - "not to offend your partner" .. Apparently, the time has not come to wave nuclear fists ... Although ... I look you can't wait to be proud. ..
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 21 October 2020 09: 31
        +1
        Quote: Nasr
        It looks like the time has not come to wave nuclear fists.

        Will we have time to wave it?
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 21 October 2020 09: 34
          -2
          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: Nasr
          It looks like the time has not come to wave nuclear fists.

          Will we have time to wave it?

          Doubt?
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 21 October 2020 09: 40
            +1
            Quote: Nasr

            Doubt?

            Considering the flight time and the fact that the aggressor has significantly more carriers .. then, yes, I doubt it ..
            1. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 21 October 2020 09: 45
              -6
              Quote: Svarog

              Considering the flight time and the fact that the aggressor has significantly more carriers .. then, yes, I doubt it ..

              And what about the media, in numbers? Or so ... from the ceiling?
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 21 October 2020 09: 58
                +7
                Quote: Hunter 2
                And what about the media, in numbers? Or so ... from the ceiling?

                You are welcome..
                https://topwar.ru/124515-sravnenie-strategicheskih-yadernyh-sil-rossii-i-ssha-infografika.html
                And here you need to keep in mind that comparison with the United States ... and they still have partners ..
                1. Hunter 2
                  Hunter 2 21 October 2020 10: 13
                  +1
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Quote: Hunter 2
                  And what about the media, in numbers? Or so ... from the ceiling?

                  You are welcome..
                  https://topwar.ru/124515-sravnenie-strategicheskih-yadernyh-sil-rossii-i-ssha-infografika.html
                  And here you need to keep in mind that comparison with the United States ... and they still have partners ..

                  And what exactly scared you? And the article from 2014? Quite comparable figures. Russia even leads in the number of warheads. Compare the average age of missiles, try to think - why did the United States plan $ 98 billion to modernize its nuclear weapons?
                  And now let's try to take into account the unaccounted for, the number of TNW, which Russia has the most in the world. If the USA is in place, you need to stay away from Our borders.
                  Do not fall for provocations and stop repeating your favorite mantra "everything is lost"! In matters of strategic containment, you do not understand anything for sure.
                  1. jovanni
                    jovanni 22 October 2020 00: 30
                    0
                    ... In place of the United States - you need to stay away from Our borders.

                    So the problem is that the United States itself is keeping far away. Already on another continent. And they push their fists closer and closer to our nose! And we may not convey our carriers. We simply won't have time ...
            2. Nasrat
              Nasrat 21 October 2020 10: 01
              +3
              Quote: Svarog
              Quote: Nasr

              Doubt?

              Considering the flight time and the fact that the aggressor has significantly more carriers .. then, yes, I doubt it ..

              And Kim Jong Eun has no doubts .... count up !!!! wassat Feel the difference!!!! Faberge, however !!!
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 21 October 2020 10: 07
                +2
                Quote: Nasr
                And Kim Jong Eun has no doubts .... count up !!!! Feel the difference!!!!

                Well yes .. compare the resources of Kim with the resources of Russia and feel the difference .. who needs him this Kim ..
                1. Nasrat
                  Nasrat 21 October 2020 10: 10
                  +8
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Quote: Nasr
                  And Kim Jong Eun has no doubts .... count up !!!! Feel the difference!!!!

                  Well yes .. compare the resources of Kim with the resources of Russia and feel the difference .. who needs him this Kim ..

                  Here ... compare the military resources of Kim and Russia and feel the difference ...
                2. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 21 October 2020 12: 57
                  +1
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Quote: Nasr
                  And Kim Jong Eun has no doubts .... count up !!!! Feel the difference!!!!

                  Well yes .. compare the resources of Kim with the resources of Russia and feel the difference .. who needs him this Kim ..

                  Kim - just the States would not hurt. Little war where Korea will be smashed South - well, and the North into dust. While money for the restoration and integration of the DPRK into the united country will be spent, iPhone will knock out Samsung, Ford and Chevrolet - Kii and Hyundai
                  A problem in Kim's vigorous loaf - the yak will hit all the rust that is available, and 100 thousand 200 amers, which will not be forgiven for any prezika.
      2. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 21 October 2020 22: 20
        +3
        The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was sort of the same - "do not offend your partner"
        This pact was a response to the "Munich Agreement" and the betrayal of the collective "west" of the Czech Republic.
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 22 October 2020 08: 55
          -1
          Quote: sharp-lad
          The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was sort of the same - "do not offend your partner"
          This pact was a response to the "Munich Agreement" and the betrayal of the collective "west" of the Czech Republic.


          Well, if you argue from point of view:
          Quote: Gardamir
          Now everyone will rush to scold amers and NATO. But here it is strange in the Great Patriotic War, of course they scold Hitler, but they are more proud of Stalin.
          So now, will the Kremlin give reason for pride or again express concern for fear of offending its partners.


          Then the pact looks exactly like "not to offend your partner" ... There is not much to be proud of ...
          It was to this comment that my message with "do not offend your partner" was addressed ..
    2. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 21 October 2020 09: 43
      +6
      How is everything Globally, with the "historical parallels"! In fact, the composition of the mattress brigade is 5 battalions, an artillery battalion, about 4,5 thousand people, ~ 130 - 180 armored vehicles. Somehow it does not pull on an analogy with the Second World War? Personally, I am neither cold nor hot from this news. Moreover, the US 2nd Cavalry Brigade has been there almost on a permanent basis since 2011, periodically nightmaring the local population with its "auto rallies" with the beautiful names "Dragoon Raid", "Atlantic Resolve", etc. This is not our problem, it is the problem of the countries that host it (brigade 2). Let them take care of women and flower beds.
      So do not worry - this is not a concentration at the Border, and understand already - the Third World War will not be conducted by ground units.
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 21 October 2020 09: 59
        12
        Quote: Hunter 2
        this is not a concentration at the Border, and understand already - the Third World War will not be conducted by ground units.

        But the world can start with the work of these divisions.
        Quote: Hunter 2
        So don't worry - this is not concentration at the Border

        This is precisely the concentration according to all the classical canons. How serious these forces (brigade) are in themselves is the second question.
        Each concentration of forces in itself is an element of the scenario of support for the outbreak of war (somewhere an airfield, somewhere a missile defense, somewhere a tank brigade). So you can hold out for a while, but for a start it may be quite enough. It is not time to relax, but you should not wear out, of course.
      2. Interlocutor
        Interlocutor 21 October 2020 10: 34
        +3
        The Third World War will not be conducted by ground units.


        That's right.
      3. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 21 October 2020 12: 59
        0
        Will be. Suitable bunkers will beat off each other, gasoline, clean water, one-handed Charlize Tyrone ... but on the principle of organic parts, and not according to nationality laughing
  5. ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
    ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 21 October 2020 09: 13
    +5
    We just need to tell our politicians and the military at every corner that all NATO objects, near Russian territory, are under the gun of nuclear missiles, be it a NATO base or (toilet), will be immediately destroyed in the event of a conflict, and at press conferences, call our partners to prudence, and show maps and the radius of the defeat of these territories, in various complexes.
    1. Mwg
      Mwg 21 October 2020 09: 30
      +4
      The fact of the matter is that they are not and the West knows it
  6. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 21 October 2020 09: 14
    +5
    "Good" statement before the negotiations on START 3. It looks like the Americans will come to them with the old "plate." concerns. We have no trump cards against the American saprykin bone. It will be fun, if it was not so sad, we live on the same planet, but in different worlds.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 21 October 2020 09: 16
    +4
    the USA has plans

    Well, yes, even vigorous arguments "freeze", the sharper he is, the further the "more honest" will play.
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 October 2020 09: 19
      +8
      We have to be very careful here, I have the impression that they are going to buy time ...
      Greetings! hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 October 2020 09: 24
        +7
        Hi soldier
        They want to win a lot! Now the main goal, the elections ... a little later, goals, plans, slightly pushed aside by well-known events, will emerge.
        Nothing changes, as always!
        1. cniza
          cniza 21 October 2020 09: 28
          +4
          They want to win everything, but here they are supposedly trying to calm us down, but the transfer of troops closer to our borders is somehow annoying ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 21 October 2020 09: 32
            +6
            Quote: cniza
            somehow annoying ...

            If, so far, not an attack, then hostile actions, a military threat right now, right away.
            1. cniza
              cniza 21 October 2020 09: 41
              +6
              Most importantly, how can we answer this?
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 21 October 2020 11: 00
                +7
                Getting ready, teaching fighters, making new equipment and saturating the troops with it!
                It is unlikely that we will have allies, most likely we can remain in the minority, which means we need to take the quality of training, technique, tactics ... otherwise it will not work.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 21 October 2020 11: 19
                  +6
                  Good morning, comrades! hi wassat yes, Victor, no variations ----
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Getting ready, teaching fighters, making new equipment and saturating the troops with it!
                  It is unlikely that we will have allies, most likely we can remain in the minority, which means we need to take the quality of training, technique, tactics ... otherwise it will not work.

                  and with all this, there are words about reducing costs negative ?What is it like?
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 21 October 2020 11: 31
                    +3
                    Hi Dmitry soldier
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    ?What is it like?

                    An accountant, economist, there is always a bunch of explanations, excuses, CONSIDERATIONS!
                    You can't trample against tsifirek.
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 21 October 2020 11: 46
                      +5
                      ..... with an accountant, economist .....
                      , from those above, the numbers are always for the benefit of them and the like. And so they ---- even though the grass does not grow!
                      1. Alf
                        Alf 21 October 2020 12: 09
                        +7
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        , from those above, the numbers are always for the benefit of them and the like. And so they ---- even though the grass does not grow!

                        And they feel good everywhere, even in Russia, even in Britain, or in the Seychelles ...
                      2. rocket757
                        rocket757 21 October 2020 13: 19
                        +3
                        Quote: Alf
                        And they feel good everywhere, even in Russia, even in Britain, or in the Seychelles ...

                        Not quite so ... the rich, but the weak, are quickly left as weak, but much, much poorer!
                      3. jovanni
                        jovanni 22 October 2020 00: 41
                        0
                        ... And they feel good everywhere, even in Russia, even in Britain, or in the Seychelles ...

                        Therefore, they need to go to Syria for training. Attach on a rotational basis to patrols. Let the mines on the road count ... Accountants ...
                    2. rocket757
                      rocket757 21 October 2020 13: 16
                      +1
                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      And so they don't even grow grass!

                      It doesn't work that way even for them. It would be good for them wherever they are accepted ... but without strength, behind their backs, now they are not accepted everywhere ... this is how the situation has developed and they cannot change it, just adjust.
                2. cniza
                  cniza 21 October 2020 13: 16
                  +4
                  Quote: Reptiloid

                  and with all this, there are words about reducing costs negative ?What is it like?


                  Greetings Dmitry! hi

                  Here sabotage begins in another way and you can't name it, the accountant climbs into the management of the security system ...
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 21 October 2020 13: 59
                    +5
                    .....accountant climbs into management ...
                    So not one, but any bureaucratic nomenclature, reproducing itself many times, works only for itself, sabotaging what the country and people need
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 21 October 2020 14: 04
                      +2
                      And this one especially, he is still from that old cohort, is clearly starting a program to contain our V.S. and works for our "partners" ...
                    2. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 21 October 2020 14: 12
                      +4
                      Quote: cniza
                      And this one especially, he is still from that old cohort, is clearly starting a program to contain our V.S. and works for our "partners" ...

                      And it does it impudently
                    3. cniza
                      cniza 21 October 2020 14: 18
                      +3
                      We do not know all the secrets of the palace games, but they are clearly reaching a new level ...
          2. cniza
            cniza 21 October 2020 13: 17
            +4
            Quote: rocket757
            Getting ready, teaching fighters, making new equipment and saturating the troops with it!
            It is unlikely that we will have allies, most likely we can remain in the minority, which means we need to take the quality of training, technique, tactics ... otherwise it will not work.


            We won't have allies for sure, they will appear at the end of the showdown ...
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 21 October 2020 13: 55
              +3
              Quote: cniza
              ...... We will not have allies for sure, they will appear at the end of the showdown ...
              well yes! And they will swear in eternal friendship and long-standing ties between countries
              1. cniza
                cniza 21 October 2020 13: 59
                +2
                And claim your "piece of the pie" as winners ...
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 21 October 2020 14: 06
                  +3
                  Quote: cniza
                  And claim your "piece of the pie" as winners ...

                  a lot of all sorts of sly ones appear to beg, to prove something ...
                2. cniza
                  cniza 21 October 2020 14: 16
                  +2
                  Everything is according to the principle - the richer you are, the more relatives you have ... and so the United States, in my opinion, is already going to open provocation.
                3. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 21 October 2020 14: 38
                  +2
                  Provoking, instigating, defaming, creating an enemy image - different options
                4. cniza
                  cniza 21 October 2020 15: 16
                  +2
                  There are many options, but the goal is one - to create chaos ...
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 21 October 2020 09: 28
    0
    Time will buy Vanguard with Petrel.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 21 October 2020 09: 31
      +3
      Well, yes, and battles, countries, empires, are being lost by bookkeepers-bookkeepers, activated by politicians!
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 21 October 2020 11: 24
        +5
        Quote: rocket757
        Well, yes, and battles, countries, empires, are being lost by bookkeepers-bookkeepers, activated by politicians!

        Well yes! He will remember all the thieves that profited from supplies for the Russian Army in WW1.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 21 October 2020 11: 34
          +2
          Voryo, it is the same in Africa ... but an accountant, they do everything on a legal basis, you can't get underneath. The main thing is that everything is for the good, everything is for the good!
          Idey itself, it is unlikely that he will be able to fight off, the question is what will be able to save ???
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 21 October 2020 09: 37
      +2
      I suspect if ours announce the tests of the Petrel (Mkhatovskaya pause) will howl from behind a puddle. And we will sit at the table and neighing. Until November 3 !!! hi
  • cniza
    cniza 21 October 2020 09: 18
    11
    At the same time, the US Department of Defense is interested in the location of the formations withdrawn from Germany as close to the Russian borders as possible.


    Creep closer and closer ...
    1. keeper03
      keeper03 21 October 2020 10: 55
      +3
      Oh, and we love to let the enemy come closer, then to grind it into powder !!! am soldier
      1. cniza
        cniza 21 October 2020 13: 11
        +3
        Yeah, and like in that film - "where are we going to bury them all", but in life everything is much more unpleasant, but yes, their memory is blurred and again everything is new ...
  • APASUS
    APASUS 21 October 2020 09: 24
    +7
    To agree on the deployment on a rotational basis of a Russian base in Belarus. To agree on a possible expansion of the contingent and the deployment of additional strike complexes. Belarus is in need of funds
    1. keeper03
      keeper03 21 October 2020 10: 57
      +1
      As a response, we can send a dozen T-72s to Mexico free of charge to contain the United States! request
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 21 October 2020 11: 00
        +6
        Quote: keeper03
        As a response, we can send a dozen T-72s to Mexico free of charge to contain the United States!

        Mexico, the same US colony as the Baltics with Poland! Who should we send tanks to?
        1. keeper03
          keeper03 21 October 2020 11: 07
          +1
          This is understandable, the main gesture is how it will sound - for the whole World !!! hi
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 21 October 2020 13: 02
        +1
        Quote: keeper03
        As a response, we can send a dozen T-72s to Mexico free of charge to contain the United States! request

        They will exchange for coconut - I know them))))
      3. Sauron80
        Sauron80 21 October 2020 22: 40
        0
        Drug cartels will also cut through tanks))
  • Egoza
    Egoza 21 October 2020 09: 25
    13
    Put Gorbachev on the front line, and let him shout to them in a mouthpiece that there was an agreement not to crawl NATO east! Let him write letters to the then and current "guarantors" They appear in the media .... Otherwise, why does he live so long?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 21 October 2020 09: 32
      +7
      Quote: Egoza
      Otherwise, why does he live so long?

      To see what Judas has done ..
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 21 October 2020 11: 01
      +7
      Quote: Egoza
      Put Gorbachev on the front line, and let him shout to them in a mouthpiece that there was an agreement not to crawl NATO east! Let him write letters to the then and current "guarantors" They appear in the media .... Otherwise, why does he live so long?

      Hang it on this edge to see our attitude
      1. Alf
        Alf 21 October 2020 12: 11
        +3
        Quote: APASUS
        Hang it on this edge to see our attitude

        The attitude is very clearly visible ..
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 21 October 2020 12: 35
          +1
          Quote: Alf
          The attitude is very clearly visible ..

          And what does it mean ?
          I don’t care what they hang on themselves. Whoever is awarded, these awards have depreciated after Medvedev.
          I express my attitude towards Gorbachev!
          MOSCOW, February 10 - RIA Novosti. The information about the high rank of the ex-Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Anatoly Serdyukov, which appeared in the media on Monday, does not correspond to reality, a source in the presidential administration said.

          On Monday, Nezavisimaya Gazeta reported that in March 2012, Dmitry Medvedev, then head of state, conferred the title of Hero of Russia on Serdyukov by secret decree, which gives him the right to amnesty.

          This company generally lives in a parallel world, they reward themselves, give themselves titles. In peacetime, 44 women have the title of General! Learn
          1. Alf
            Alf 21 October 2020 12: 37
            +2
            Quote: APASUS
            I don't care what they hang themselves

            But I don't. By this, the authorities once again showed who theirs are for them. Has Putin canceled the award order?
    3. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 21 October 2020 11: 34
      +7
      Quote: Egoza
      Put Gorbachev on the front line, and let him shout to them in a mouthpiece that there was an agreement not to crawl NATO east! t .... Otherwise why does he live so long?
      He kicks off, wriggles, sneaky negative what does he live for? Maybe to remind you of betrayal with your mean look, so that everyone would remember?
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 21 October 2020 11: 56
        +2
        Quote: Reptiloid
        to remind with their mean appearance of betrayal

        Hello Dima ! hi He looks really subtle!
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 21 October 2020 12: 21
          +6
          Have a nice day Vladimir hi Putin a few years ago on this topic he fool , and to that ---- do it in the eyes, no matter what
  • user1212
    user1212 21 October 2020 09: 25
    +4
    Punitive troops are deployed, and then suddenly the aborigines will perceive the tales of "freedom" at their own expense, they will decide to play in a multi-vector approach. Freedom is who needs freedom lol
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 21 October 2020 09: 27
    +4
    Firewood for the first strike. They will burn well.
  • Mwg
    Mwg 21 October 2020 09: 27
    +7
    The world smells more and more of war
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 21 October 2020 10: 40
      -5
      The world smells more and more of war

      How did you decide.
      Name the signs?
      1. Mwg
        Mwg 21 October 2020 13: 16
        0
        The owls stopped hooting on the new moon ...
        1. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 21 October 2020 13: 47
          0
          The owls stopped hooting at the new moon ..


          Except that...
  • nnm
    nnm 21 October 2020 09: 31
    0
    And what is the fundamental difference in whether they will be there on a rotational or permanent basis? On the contrary, fewer military personnel will get acquainted with the peculiarities of the theater of operations and will go through coordination with local units.
  • donavi49
    donavi49 21 October 2020 09: 31
    +2
    They are still going to place the OTRK:
    "China has deployed a large number of missiles, much more than 1 intermediate and shorter-range missiles, in the Indian-Pacific region. And Russia did so too, and they did it in violation of the INF Treaty (Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles - TASS) ", - he argued. "So we are committed to deploying the same force in both theaters of war", - said Esper.

    Well, about the moratorium on placement from Putin:
    «I would not waste time thinking about the moratorium: in simple terms, there will be no moratorium"Billingsley said.
  • Old Bolshevik
    Old Bolshevik 21 October 2020 09: 36
    -4
    Just like Karl 12, Napoleon and Hitler did.
    And only the reset to zero closed the bases in Lourdes in Cuba and Cam Ranh in Vietnam.
    Putin's diplomacy of Cat Leopold will lead the Russian Federation to disaster.
  • MKPU-115
    MKPU-115 21 October 2020 09: 40
    +5
    NATO gave guarantees to the USSR that it would not expand to the East
    The NATO website posted the text of the speech of the then Secretary General of the bloc Manfred Wörner in Brussels on May 17, 1990 "The North Atlantic Alliance and European Security in the 1990s"
    http://nato.int/docu/speech/1990/s900517a_e.htm...
    He vows that after the entry of the united Germany into NATO, there will be no further progress to the East. Translation of selection:
    "... The very fact that we are ready not to deploy NATO troops outside the territory of the FRG gives the Soviet Union direct security guarantees ..."

    Since then, 12 Eastern European countries have joined NATO. Moreover, Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic - under Yeltsin, when there was no talk of Putin V.V.
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 21 October 2020 10: 07
      +4
      Quote: MKPU-115
      "... The very fact that we are ready not to deploy NATO troops outside the territory of the FRG gives the Soviet Union direct security guarantees ..."

      Now it looks like a private opinion of Manfred Wörner. Without a signature on the documents. It's just "Pshik". And the labeled man did not sign any documents on this matter ... However, everyone already knows about this. Judas passed everything.
  • Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 21 October 2020 09: 47
    0
    During the Cold War, Europe housed about a Million NATO soldiers, 20 tanks, 000 fighter-bombers, thousands of Tactical missiles with nuclear warheads.
    And now a pitiful battalion of 200 armored vehicles, and several thousand American troops, of which half are negroes and transvestites.
    I see no reason to raise a fuss over this.
    1. MKPU-115
      MKPU-115 21 October 2020 10: 53
      +3
      Quote: Dmitry Makarov
      During the Cold War, Europe housed about a Million NATO soldiers, 20 tanks, 000 fighter-bombers, thousands of Tactical missiles with nuclear warheads.
      And now a pitiful battalion of 200 armored vehicles, and several thousand American troops, of which half are negroes and transvestites.
      I see no reason to raise a fuss over this.

      In 1989, I had a chance to closely participate with NATO members in an "event", where the US 82nd Airborne Division was, and the 101st.
      Some conclusions were drawn:
      1. For them, service is a business (that's what they said literally);
      2. No one ever intended to fight there to the last drop of blood for the United States;
      3. About the Coca-Cola they didn’t go to the army, we won’t go to war, this is not a joke, in this case they didn’t get a barrel of orange juice on time;
      4. No morale, the Marine sergeant erased his leg, everything, snot dismissed, he was going to the hospital.
      5. They hope only for an overwhelming military-technical superiority, in the air, sea, on land - talked with the marines who landed on Grenada.
      6. In Europe (the US Army) they are simply hated, however, the Dutch also made jokes to the Bundeswehr, such as "give your grandfather's bike".
    2. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 21 October 2020 11: 14
      +1
      Now the EU has 1,5 million soldiers excluding the US
      1. Dmitry Makarov
        Dmitry Makarov 21 October 2020 13: 13
        +2
        There is little left to do, we need Hitler or Napoleon to unite this horde.
        Well, then - Forward, to Rake!
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 21 October 2020 13: 51
          -1
          Only when Hitler came did we have an army larger than his. Infantry, tanks, aircraft and artillery. And now?
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 21 October 2020 09: 51
    0
    If I were the Chinese, I would drive the tanker to point Nemo in the Pacific Ocean. I recruited a crew of suicide bombers, like the Japanese in Fukushima, would disperse it to the max, speed and shake it down with the East Wind 21. If there is not enough range, we bring the tanker closer to the affected area. This would remove the questions of guidance. And then the Americans are flying with their AUG amy. You can invite a couple of Arleigh Berks for the purity of the experiment for control. You can Tikanderogu for disposal.
  • Old Bolshevik
    Old Bolshevik 21 October 2020 09: 58
    -6
    To understand that under Putin, the Russian Federation will surrender to the United States and the West at the very first shot, it is enough to look at the facial expressions and the guilty look of the commander-in-chief of the Russian Federation, when in May 2014 the Western authorities came to him with an inspection.
    Why does the Russian Federation suffer defeats on all fronts - in Ukraine, Belarus, Syria, the Olympics under the white flag of surrender - treason has been sitting at the very top, in the Kremlin, since 1985 to this day.
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 21 October 2020 10: 47
      +2
      And it seemed to me that he was freaking out from this pastime, and was waiting for the dude on the left to dump.
    2. MKPU-115
      MKPU-115 21 October 2020 10: 58
      +4
      Quote: Old Bolshevik
      To understand that under Putin, the Russian Federation will surrender to the United States and the West

      The shelter is doubtful, the hopes of young men are nourished ...
      Dream one-eyed wassat
    3. Liss Nikita
      Liss Nikita 21 October 2020 12: 02
      -1
      What are you piling up here, what the fuck is the "mimicry", what is the "guilty look?"
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 21 October 2020 10: 00
    +2
    Therefore, if something happens, it is necessary to bomb - Poland, Romania and other countries with "understated social responsibility."
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 21 October 2020 10: 48
      +2
      Therefore, if something happens, it is necessary to bomb - Poland, Romania and other countries with "understated social responsibility."


      "Decision-making centers"
  • taiga2018
    taiga2018 21 October 2020 10: 05
    +3
    Well, is the new 1941 just around the corner?
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 21 October 2020 10: 52
      0
      Well, is the new 1941 just around the corner?


      Yes. Exaggerated, but yes. Why shouldn't history repeat itself?
      Khokhlos2andia was the Russian world and when it once again got into trouble, it returned to the next "nix". Surely this time it will be. IMHO.
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 21 October 2020 10: 15
    +4
    and the Ministry of Finance wants to reduce the army by 100k) so that inside the country the enemy of the sea
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 October 2020 10: 19
    +4
    Someone hastened to announce that tanks are not needed in modern warfare. But the Americans think the opposite. After all, today there is one tank regiment to the Russian wicket, tomorrow a couple more ... Germany, in their opinion, is already far from Russia, therefore, to the proven "friends" in Poland and the Baltic states. And there Ukraine is next in line with open arms.
  • Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 21 October 2020 10: 46
    -2
    All this is more like total US control over its satellite countries, and the "Russian threat" is only a reason to occupy these puppets with troops.
  • Gunther
    Gunther 21 October 2020 11: 28
    +4
    After a missed chance in 2014, thanks to the genius of a galley rower, the situation on the Russian border is deteriorating - there is a continuous increase in the threat from NATO and the United States.
  • fif21
    fif21 21 October 2020 16: 06
    -1
    It's time to strike at Kiev, Washington and other NATO rubbish. We chew "snot" and then we will pay with blood. hi
  • ljoha_d
    ljoha_d 21 October 2020 16: 28
    0
    The only countermeasures that Russia should take is just like the transfer of our nuclear missiles to Cuba-Venezuela. Everything else is just a puppy rustle !!!
  • dani
    dani 21 October 2020 17: 33
    0
    Quote: Old Bolshevik
    Just like Karl 12, Napoleon and Hitler did.
    And only the reset to zero closed the bases in Lourdes in Cuba and Cam Ranh in Vietnam.


    Putin's diplomacy of Cat Leopold will lead the Russian Federation to disaster.

    I read on the forum and can't believe my eyes!
    And really these are the heirs of those nice guys (seculars) who died in whole divisions, but did not yield to the Wehrmacht troops!
    What experts, what wonderful analysts!
    Found the culprit!
    Forgive them, Lord!
    The whole world envies you for the LEADER you have!
    Maybe "Gorby the Second" or "Yeltsin the First", and why not "Zelensky First Russian", you would be better suited!
    Please, mention brothers! You don't have much time!
    Now, when the united West undertook the first DRANG NACH OSTEN in the 1941st century, YOU should never repeat XNUMX.
    We are grateful Bulgarians will always be with you!
    I'm sure
    "YOUR BUSINESS IS RIGHT! VICTORY WILL BE YOURS"
  • Gordei
    Gordei 21 October 2020 17: 33
    +2
    In retaliation, I would put the latest air defense and other cunning tricks to Iran, and drove a tank division into Syria to constantly gas and move, under the howl of attack aircraft near the border .. wink
    1. dani
      dani 21 October 2020 18: 33
      -2
      Quote: Gordei
      In retaliation, I would put the latest air defense and other cunning tricks to Iran, and drove a tank division into Syria to constantly gas and move, under the howl of attack aircraft near the border .. wink

      Dear Gordei,
      Impressed by your determination to scatter air defenses and such divisions around the world with a light hand. YOU will need them !!!
      Perhaps you know the plan of "BARBAROS" for the XXI Century of the United West?
      Dear Friend, THESE, "people" want DISINTEGRATE , destroy, YOUR WORLD! RUSSIAN WORLD !!!! TURNING YOU INTO NOMADS !!!!!!
      YOUR WORLD SCARES THE WEST, THEREFORE THEY TAKE A DECISION TO TURN YOU INTO NOMADS !!!
      MY FRIEND IT DOESN'T WORK WITH IRAN OR CHINA !!!!
      1. Gordei
        Gordei 21 October 2020 18: 48
        +3
        Quote: dani
        Dear Gordei,
        Impressed by your determination to scatter air defenses and such divisions around the world with a light hand. YOU will need them !!!

        Thank you dear Daniel and the same to you .. hi
        1. dani
          dani 21 October 2020 21: 02
          0
          I'm sure we'll count too!
          Friend,
          I, sometimes and even then not rarely, are also frightened by this Russian unpredictability!
          I'll tell you straight, brother,
          One day - Gorby ... comes ........ GLASSNESS ..., then DEMOCRACY ........,
          then .. you all go to ........ and the end !!!!!
          Then Yeltsin ... comes ... and ... who are you ....... and the end !!!!!
          Then United Russia appears and ........ we ............, the eight millionth, present-day Bulgaria handed over to Russia ..........? !!? !!! ...
          Therefore, Friend, ... you and your friends are losing .... !!!!!
  • PValery53
    PValery53 21 October 2020 18: 05
    0
    "The United States will move the military closer to the Russian border"
    - Since they do this, it means - we will take Washington and New York "with our bare hands." And not otherwise.
    1. dani
      dani 21 October 2020 18: 44
      -1
      Friend,
      Take it easy with entusiasm, I would also be very happy to see a RUSSIAN tricolor over the Brooklyn Bridge or over the Empire Building Toer, but for now, the rooted handles, it will wait !!!
      First nodo finish off NATO, we are tired too !!!
      Still not the Wind !!!!
  • Tavi
    Tavi 21 October 2020 21: 08
    0
    history teaches them nothing ...
    1. Sauron80
      Sauron80 21 October 2020 22: 49
      0
      History teaches that if you choose shame between war and shame, you will get both war and shame.
  • Adimius38
    Adimius38 22 October 2020 00: 02
    0
    Moscow can do nothing, just chatter. In fact, the B-52 is CIRCLE OVER THE KERCHEN STRAIGHT. What did Uncle Vova do? NOTHING. Maybe he has permanently deployed a pair of Tu-95s in Venezuela? Of course not. That's all the countermeasures ... NATO, led by the United States, has long crossed the red line, there is nowhere to go further, but the Kremlin did nothing, just chatter. The question is why?
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 22 October 2020 09: 28
    0
    The first line dies first and almost completely. The whole "armada" of the Balts, Poles, Bulgarians of all other countries, standing in the first line with all the technical means and weapons, will simply be dug into the ground. Let them think with their stupid heads.
    1. dani
      dani 22 October 2020 09: 49
      0
      Oh, how brave you are, let's start rushing the coffins now ?!
      Allow me ?!
      Excuse me, Great Sir, how many years old do you have, how many wars did you personally win ??? (SURE ON A COMPUTER)

      YOU DO NOT LISTEN TO YOUR CHIEF COMMANDER, IT IS WELL THAT THERE ARE REAL STRATEGIES IN RUSSIA !!!
      PS WITH NERVES LIKE SHIP ROPES !!!!
  • Tagan
    Tagan 22 October 2020 18: 01
    0
    Quote: Doliva63
    Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    will lead to retaliatory actions, up to the termination of all agreements between Russia and NATO.
    So what? Will our armored divisions be deployed closer to America? In Mexico or Canada?

    To begin with, Russia can withdraw from the DON and the CFE Treaty.

    And then - from SWIFT, right? laughing

    And what, life is not nice without SWIFT? Many people argue about it, without even understanding what it is. His absence will not affect anything.
  • Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 22 October 2020 19: 34
    0
    All of these statements by the averse strategists are a naive attempt to intimidate the "partner" in the forthcoming talks on the INF Treaty. This will happen after the election / appointment of a new ugly prezik. They cannot overcome their cheating attempts to deceive the "partner" in any way. For such brigades / missions there is TNW, and for "decision-making centers" there is a more powerful and long-range weapon. tongue
  • wow
    wow 23 October 2020 07: 52
    0
    At home, the Stars and Stripes all shake as if in a fever, but they crawl all the same like cockroaches. Probably more of a habit.
  • Aitvaras
    Aitvaras 23 October 2020 08: 07
    0
    He discovered America, it is called. In Lithuania already several. For years, a NATO tank battalion from Germany has been on a permanent basis, with newly developed Leopard tanks. Exercises with the participation of NATO tank units from France, Norway and Poland are ongoing. This US battalion will be stationed at Pabrade, 20 km away. from Vilnius. Under the USSR, a tank regiment of the Vilnius division was located there, and a combined arms division was located in Klaipeda. In Kaunas, an airborne division, etc. etc. There was enough space for everyone and now there are training grounds. In Lithuania, the majority of citizens are interested in the presence of NATO allies in our country "... when the soldiers sing, the children sleep peacefully ..."