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"The first is the end of the war": Kravchuk called the stages of "reintegration" of Donbass

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Leonid Kravchuk, who is the head of the Ukrainian delegation to the TCG (Trilateral Contact Group) on the settlement in Donbass, once again spoke about how he envisions "Donbass reintegration into Ukraine."


According to Kravchuk, reintegration should take place in four main stages. The head of the Ukrainian mission in the TCG believes that an end to the war is necessary first.

The second stage, according to Kravchuk, is the holding of elections in the territories of Donbass, which are currently not controlled by Kiev.

The third stage of "reintegration" is the formation of executive authorities based on the results of the elections.

And stage number four is a package of laws of an economic nature, aimed at developing the financial and economic system of the region and attracting investments.

The first points actually fit into the need for Ukraine itself to fulfill the Minsk Agreements. But the problem is that shelling in Donbass continues virtually every day, which speaks, first of all, of Kiev's disinterest in fulfilling its obligations. But, ignoring the Minsk agreements, the Ukrainian authorities do not de jure withdraw from these agreements, fearing to incur the "disfavor" of their Western partners.

Therefore, Kravchuk could have stopped at the first point, but the whole problem is that he only voices these points, without proposing any specific measures for their implementation.
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  1. GTYCBJYTH2021
    GTYCBJYTH2021 21 October 2020 06: 12
    12
    Similar topics are like pouring from empty to empty ...
    1. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 21 October 2020 07: 00
      +6
      "The first is the end of the war": Kravchuk named the stages of "reintegration" of Donbass

      To understand what this statement means, it is necessary to remember that it was Kravchuk, following the instructions of the Ukrainian elite and without a doubt for personal, deeply nationalistic convictions, who did everything possible to reject any significant settlement decisions at the talks in Minsk.
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 21 October 2020 07: 52
      0
      Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
      Similar topics are like pouring from empty to empty ...

      Absolutely.
      Leonid Kravchuk once again spoke about how he imagines “Donbass reintegration into Ukraine”.
      What can a senile old man say smart? Reintegration can only begin with a change in the Ruin itself, too much blood has been spilled ...
    3. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov 21 October 2020 12: 37
      0
      Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
      Similar topics are like pouring from empty to empty ...

      The empty chatter around and around this topic serves only ONE: a cover for the attack of the Ukronazis on Donbass and its destruction. EVERYTHING about Krylov: "And Vaska listens, but eats!"
    4. RealPilot
      RealPilot 21 October 2020 15: 19
      0
      And all this blood is on HIS hands ... Him and his two accomplices: Yeltsin and Shushkevich.
      The separatists are not residents of Donbass who were outraged by the coup and did not accept Bandera as a hero, who did not want to kiss the American-German boot! These are the three conspirators who destroyed a great country and reported this to Washington ...

      So, let the three of them meet and report to the horned ones at a press conference, and for Donbass too.

      And about pouring from empty to empty ... Yes, it looks like that. However, quantity turns into quality; at some point the discussion will turn into a practical plane.
      Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten.
  2. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 21 October 2020 06: 16
    +3
    The Nazis will stop everything for him.
    1. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 21 October 2020 07: 21
      +6
      Quote: Pessimist22
      The Nazis will stop everything for him.

      Actually Kravchuk, himself is none other than a rabid Natsik, but not one of those who gallops and kills, but those who provide ideological support to their movement.
  3. samarin1969
    samarin1969 21 October 2020 06: 25
    +3
    The old party apparatchik is cunning. No - about "border control" and the withdrawal of "occupiers". The whole question is who and on what conditions will carry out points 2 and 3. LM offers the Russian Federation to formalize the transfer of control over the territories as the "will of the people" of the LPR.
    Kravchuk offers the leaders of the Russian Federation to surrender with "face saving". Surely there will be "towers" who will want to negotiate behind the scenes on these terms. This is a rather dangerous Trojan from a former internationalist.
  4. ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
    ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 21 October 2020 06: 27
    +2
    In addition to just another chatter, Kiev has no chance of returning Donbass, this is the language law, the law on the sale of land, the law on amnesty for the defenders of Donbass.
  5. SVD68
    SVD68 21 October 2020 06: 29
    +4
    Four points of Kravchuk:
    1. Mriyat.
    2. Mriyat.
    3. Mriyat.
    4. Zrada.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 21 October 2020 06: 50
      +3
      Quote: SVD68
      Four points of Kravchuk:
      1. Mriyat.
      2. Mriyat.
      3. Mriyat.
      4. Zrada.

      Well, you can say that, only I believe that Kravchuk, like an experienced bug, understands perfectly how the matter will end and is in a hurry to spread straws for himself. When these figures are called to account, he will say: "Well, I offered. I am not guilty."
  6. Moore
    Moore 21 October 2020 06: 30
    +5
    It is high time to throw the Minsk agreements into the basket and understand that another springboard for the war with Russia is ready.
    Ah, we wanted the best, ah, we hoped for the sanity of the "partners", ah, we are for international law, etc.
    They did not do at least a minimum: to restore the DPR and LPR completely within their borders - you will get in five years maybe a poorly armed, but motivated army and something similar to the Navy of a far-away unfriendly state that hates everything Russian, grown-up duped schoolchildren and a bunch of other hemorrhoids.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 October 2020 06: 30
    10
    Maybe Kravchuk still ask Donbass if he wants to integrate into Ukraine? Probably will be very "surprised" by the answer. That's it, the train left a long time ago and Donbass will not pour into the Bandera Outskirts for any Ukrainian gingerbreads, which are not even in Ukraine.
  8. askort154
    askort154 21 October 2020 06: 32
    +4
    You already have to think not about Donbass, but how to get out of the shit yourself.
  9. bald
    bald 21 October 2020 06: 35
    +5
    A long-lost old man. Carries without realizing (analyzing) how much and how it will be. His first point would be to go through independent psychiatrists.
    1. Nikolai Korovin
      Nikolai Korovin 21 October 2020 07: 15
      +2
      No, it's just a talking head that speaks out what was ordered. As far as psychiatry is concerned, depression is evident. That and look will cry. But is there a shizuha - here, of course, a specialist is needed.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 October 2020 08: 06
      +2
      Quote: bald
      Carries without realizing (analyzing) how much and how it will be.

      He survived from his mind, but at the level of instinct what he was taught in the OUN / UPA remained, and he continues to splash out this snake venom, like 70 years ago.
  10. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 21 October 2020 06: 37
    +9
    When will this old Bender g ... let it die and stop spoiling the air?
    1. Nikolai Korovin
      Nikolai Korovin 21 October 2020 07: 13
      +4
      Why do so many people write "Bender"? Bender is a city in the south of Ukraine. And Hitler's lackey was called "Bandera". Through "a". As for when he dies, let him live and observe the work of his own hands. Yeltsin threw back his hooves, and it seems like nothing to do with, about Shushkevich something has not been heard for a long time, and this someone no, no, but pushes it out. He didn’t think it would work that way! He only thirsted for self-styled and non-profit! Look what anxious in earnest. A political corpse on display. Very offensive role. "Doctor, will I live? - You will. For a long, long time! But it sucks, it sucks!"
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 October 2020 07: 59
        +3
        Quote: Nikolai Korovin
        about Shushkevich something has not been heard for a long time, but this someone no, no, but pushes it out.

        This "figure" got out when Tikhanovskaya and the company appeared. Again he shouted about the prohibition of the Russian language in Belarus.
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 21 October 2020 09: 08
        +2
        Quote: Nikolai Korovin
        Why do so many people write "Bender"? Bender is a city in the south of Ukraine.

        If you have already undertaken to correct, then you yourself need to be aware that Bendery is a city in the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic, and has nothing to do with Ukraine.
        1. Nikolai Korovin
          Nikolai Korovin 21 October 2020 10: 19
          0
          I'm sorry. Something has not looked into the atlas for a long time. Apparently, I confused it with Khotin - also a Turkish fortress. But in general, from Bendery in a straight line to the border of the Odessa region - about 20 km, so in latitude and longitude I was not very much mistaken. But from memory it seemed to me that Bendery was just about where Khotin actually was. I'm getting old, it's time to rest.
        2. boris epstein
          boris epstein 22 October 2020 17: 20
          0
          At the moment, yes, indeed. But in the 20s of the 20th century, first the Autonomous Moldavian Republic was created, and then the Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic for the Moldovans who fought in the division of Kotovsky, their families and people who did not want to live under the Romanian occupation (Moldova became part of the USSR only in 1939) from PART of the lands of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. This is what the Transnistrian Republic is at the moment. Although even earlier this land - Western Ukraine, the principality of Moldova, present-day Moldova - were repeatedly watered with Russian blood in the Russian-Turkish, First World War, the Civil and the Great Patriotic Wars.
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 22 October 2020 22: 00
            0
            Quote: Boris Epstein
            At the moment, yes, indeed. But in the 20s of the 20th century ...

            And in the days of Neanderthals and saber-toothed tigers ... laughing
      3. Niel-le-Calais
        Niel-le-Calais 21 October 2020 10: 38
        0
        Quote: Nikolai Korovin
        Bender is a city in the south of Ukraine

        Bendery (Bendery; mold. Bender, Bender; Ukrainian. Bendery; from Pers. Harbor, pier) - a city in the unrecognized Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic
        Quote: Nikolai Korovin
        Yeltsin threw back his hooves, and it seems like nothing to do with

        he was immortalized at the Yeltsin Center. They worship and praise the first persons of the state.
        Quote: Nikolai Korovin
        about Shushkevich something has not been heard for a long time

        nearly..
        As for Kravchuk, the most complaints are against him. Alive and involved in politics. So he is to blame for everything, especially since he is Ukrainian. Two for one. It’s not Yeltsin to blame ..
  11. Konnick
    Konnick 21 October 2020 06: 58
    +3
    The main thing is to say something, and let others think how to do it. You won't integrate Donbass with Ukraine, it's too late. We need to think about how to integrate Donbass into Russia again.
  12. Revolver
    Revolver 21 October 2020 07: 20
    +5
    If in all fairness, then it is necessary to hold a referendum in the LPNR with a choice of three:

    1. Autonomy within Ukraine
    2. Entry into the Russian Federation as regions
    3. Independence within the complete borders of regions, including Mariupol

    And if it is politically correct, then each interested party has its own political correctness, "and they cannot come together" © Kipling
  13. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 21 October 2020 07: 30
    +2
    And what can you expect from the "good boy" from the OUN? Only the planting of Bandera's power in the Donbass, the transformation of the republics into a continuous concentration camp, the elimination of those not pleasing to the regime. The occupation of 1941 by Nazi troops will seem like a paradise for Donbass.
  14. Thrifty
    Thrifty 21 October 2020 07: 36
    +2
    Decided to show that he is a strategist worse than Suvorov? fool Would go to retire, take out the pots from under the grandchildren, the politician of yesterday! !!
  15. alekc75
    alekc75 21 October 2020 07: 40
    +4
    Quote: Nikolai Korovin
    Why do so many people write "Bender"? Bender is a city in the south of Ukraine. And Hitler's lackey was called "Bandera". Through "a". As for when he dies, let him live and observe the work of his own hands. Yeltsin threw back his hooves, and it seems like nothing to do with, about Shushkevich something has not been heard for a long time, and this someone no, no, but pushes it out. He didn’t think it would work that way! He only thirsted for self-styled and non-profit! Look what anxious in earnest. A political corpse on display. Very offensive role. "Doctor, will I live? - You will. For a long, long time! But it sucks, it sucks!"

    Bendery city in PMR !!!
  16. Dimy4
    Dimy4 21 October 2020 07: 40
    +2
    Often this political zombie began to crawl out of the grave.
  17. Svetlana
    Svetlana 21 October 2020 07: 41
    +3
    Looking at the war in Karabakh, one can assume that a war will soon begin there too. The victories of the Azeris certainly inspired Kiev and improved their mood.
    And the words of retired politicians are worthless. Neither Gorbachev nor Kuchma or anyone else.
  18. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 21 October 2020 07: 43
    +3
    Ha-ha, again the scarecrow, the sickly puppy, was pulled out of the closet. I remember that it had already ventriloquized once that Stalin and Hitler had met in Lemberg. Now they are muttering something about Donbass. It is time for the former Ukraine to forget about Donbass, as it did about Crimea, and prepare for the return of the remaining territories to Russia, which were illegally donated to it by the Bolsheviks ...
  19. Siberian
    Siberian 21 October 2020 07: 52
    0
    "I would've died like that, and I didn't know ..",
    what the freshest news!
  20. Victorio
    Victorio 21 October 2020 07: 57
    0
    soon those who want to "reintegrate" will not remain
  21. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 21 October 2020 08: 00
    +2
    Laughter laughter. But the issue of reintegration is underway, and more successfully than we would like here.
    And not only in Donbass, but also in the kind of Russian Crimea.
    How long ago was a Belarusian fascist expelled from the Yalta administration?
    Now the same "decent" person from Odessa was taken to Semferopol.
    Well, okay, this one may also be kicked out if the press inflates a scandal again (although so far almost silence).
    And those who took them?
    I remember that in the 15th year, local aunts in the gardens talked to each other, they say, they will drive out those who stayed from Ukraine in the administrations, now we will live ...
    Yeah, let alone not kicked out, new ones strive to get in.
  22. barin
    barin 21 October 2020 08: 03
    18
    "The first is the end of the war"

    There was nothing left to start fool
  23. Gunther
    Gunther 21 October 2020 08: 09
    +2
    this rotten shape-shifter did not mention the 5th point - the destruction of those who are now defending Novorossiya.
  24. aszzz888
    aszzz888 21 October 2020 08: 16
    +2

    Head of the Ukrainian delegation to the TCG (Trilateral Contact Group) on the settlement in Donbass Leonid Kravchuk once again spoke about how he imagines the "Donbass reintegration into Ukraine."
    Yes, it went, a weather vane creature! I got it with my marasmic quirks! angry
  25. Ros 56
    Ros 56 21 October 2020 08: 34
    +2
    Give someone this little banderenka to read the Minsk agreements.
  26. bistrov.
    bistrov. 21 October 2020 08: 37
    +3
    All his life, this "man" dodged, lied, how can you believe this Pharisee? It was he who was preparing the separation of "Ukraine" from the USSR, raising and placing corrupt, nationalist cadres in all spheres of life. I would like to ask a question: what was the KGB of the USSR doing? Have you covered the currency speculators who traded currency quite openly?
    Now I would like to ask the FSB the same question: What are they doing, who are they protecting?
    And the foreign policy department, judging by the many years of failed foreign policy, needs to be dispersed long ago ...
  27. APASUS
    APASUS 21 October 2020 08: 59
    0
    The strong point of almost all Ukrainian politicians is the ability to talk to the public!
  28. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 21 October 2020 10: 22
    0
    Who in the Donbass wants to, having passed the path of genocide, enter this American trap called Vukraina after listening to this subdued talk?
  29. georggy
    georggy 21 October 2020 12: 48
    0
    This is a consequence of the collapse of the USSR.
    And this Bendera is involved in this.
    He should sit, not offer.
  30. ZEMCH
    ZEMCH 21 October 2020 14: 38
    +1
    And the point is to integrate into today's Ukraine, let them start with the changes, then ask the inhabitants of the LPNR if they want integration)))
  31. Oleg Kievlyanin
    Oleg Kievlyanin 21 October 2020 18: 17
    0
    It seems that everything is correct and beautiful, but Kravchukcha is a traitor on which there is nowhere to put samples