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Red Army showed the way out of the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict

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History shows that peace in the Greater Caucasus is impossible without the presence of Russia. 100 years ago, peace in Transcaucasia was restored by the Red Army.


In a week, Soviet troops established a brotherhood of peoples in Azerbaijan (April-May 1920), and in Armenia (late November-early December). With the full support of local workers, the Azerbaijani and Armenian nationalists ("Baku" blitzkrieg "of the Red Army").

Always at war land


It is obvious that the current Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict (the war in Nagorno-Karabakh) has serious historical, religious and national preconditions. But war brings death and destruction, it is not in the interests of ordinary people. In the current conditions (dominance of big capital and nationalist regimes), peace in the Transcaucasus is impossible. The main principle of class (estate) societies is the right of the strong. The inviolability of borders, sovereignty and the right to self-determination do not matter when large offices decide to crush Yugoslavia or Iraq, to ​​cause a war in Syria or Karabakh.

Under these conditions, the Karabakh issue can be resolved only at the cost of a lot of blood. Terror and genocide, as was the case on this land a century ago during the collapse of the Russian Empire and great turmoil, and in the late 1980s and early 1990s. with the collapse of the Soviet Union ... The enemy is destroyed and driven out. And peace and prosperity in the Caucasus is possible only on one condition: inclusion in the great Russian empire-state. There was peace in the Caucasus under the rule of the Russian Tsar or General Secretary. Armenians, Georgians, and Azeri Turks lived peacefully and contributed to the common good. The nationalists, with the full support of external interested forces, did not tear the Caucasus to pieces.

The current aggravation in Karabakh is associated with the plunge of all mankind into chaos. The old order is being destroyed, but the new one has not yet been created. The only remaining superpower, the United States, is sinking deeper and deeper into its internal turmoil. The world is left unattended. Former great powers begin their Game of Thrones. Turkish leader Erdogan is aiming to replace the new Ottoman sultan. Turkey is waging small wars in Iraq, Syria and Libya, challenging Greece. Remembers the historical rights to Jerusalem. Now the new Ottoman Empire wants to restore its sphere of influence in Transcaucasia, takes Baku under its wing, goes to the Caspian Sea and further to historical Turkestan. It is obvious that the West is also interested in the war on Karabakh. While the Western elites are deciding on the future of the planet, the rest of the world needs something to do. Russia is being diverted to one more "front". Ukraine - Donbass, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia - Azerbaijan. Who is next?

When there was an era of peace and prosperity in the Caucasus


Before joining Russia, the lands of the South Caucasus (Transcaucasia) were divided among themselves by two Islamic powers: Persia and the Ottoman Empire. Massacre, terror, slavery and genocide were commonplace. For example, the Georgian nation, then consisting of a dozen different tribes, almost died. Some were cut out, some were Islamized. The Georgian tribes were saved only thanks to the Russian soldiers. Several bloody and fierce wars between Russia and Persia and Turkey led to the fact that the lands of today's Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan joined the Russian Empire. Russia lost tens of thousands of people in these wars. The long-awaited peace has come to the Caucasus. Georgians, Armenians and Azerbaijanis contributed to the creation of a great power.

The peoples of the Caucasus lived under the "Russian yoke" without any particular problems until 1917. Cities grew and were decorated, new ones were built. Culture and economy developed. The Caucasian population, having got rid of constant massacres, strife, invasions, raids and slavery, has significantly increased in number. Many representatives of the Caucasus entered the all-Russian elite. A lot of blood returned after the start of the Troubles in 1917. Georgian, Armenian (Dashnak) and Azerbaijani nationalists began to fight for "freedom and democracy", actively freed themselves from the traces of "Russian occupation" and along the way began to cut each other. Azerbaijani nationalists (Musavatists), Dashnaks and Georgian Social Democrats tried to create “Great Azerbaijan”, “Great Armenia” and “Great Georgia”. In those historical and geographical conditions, which took shape not even centuries, but more than a thousand years, this automatically led to a series of violent conflicts and wars. Mutual genocide.

Turkey immediately entered the region, providing assistance to the "brotherly Azerbaijani people", and Britain, which had strategic and economic interests (including the oil fields of Baku). Now everything is repeated. The great Russian historian Vasily Klyuchevsky used to say: "History is not a teacher, but a warden: she does not teach anything, but severely punishes for ignorance of the lessons." The bloody massacre in 1918-1920, including the Armenian-Turkish war of 1920, almost destroyed the Armenian people ("How Turkey Attacked Armenia"; “Armenian defeat. How the Turkish army captured Kars and Alexandropol ").

Russia again saved the peoples of the Caucasus. The Bolsheviks won the Civil War. They restored order (including the brotherhood of peoples) in most of the territory of the Russian Empire. They created a new great power - the Soviet Union. With proletarian ruthlessness, they resolved the issue with the Caucasian nationalists, who drowned their peoples in blood. In the Union, the Caucasian peoples lived peacefully, prosperity came again. Ordinary Armenians and Azerbaijanis worked together, fought against the Nazis. The Soviet country was given a lot of scientists, cultural and art workers, teachers and doctors, military and ordinary workers.

Blood and grief came to the Caucasus again in the form of turmoil - the collapse of the USSR. Again, with the external and internal support of a number of Soviet and party leaders who had betrayed the Union, nationalism-Nazism was revived. This was facilitated by their criminal policies of M. S. Gorbachev, the "architect of perestroika" A. N. Yakovlev, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the USSR E. A. Shevardnadze, etc. What was at first considered catastrophic "mistakes of the center" was in fact thoughtful and methodical work of the liquidators of the Soviet civilization. Criminals and bandits were actively used. Ethnic cleansing and genocide began again. The Karabakh war began. Of course, the US and British special services had a hand in this.

Then the conflict was frozen for a while. But both sides were strenuously preparing for a new war. It is obvious that the current massacre in Karabakh is planned and caused by the same forces as before. Nationalist regimes in Baku and Yerevan are playing off. Armenia is being deceived again, as in 1920: "The West will help." Azerbaijan becomes a vassal and strategic foothold of Turkey in the Caucasus and the Caspian Sea. The "Turkish Sultan" Erdogan's formula "one people - two countries" flows into the formula "one people - one country". Turkish military advisers and pro-Turkish terrorist fighters are being deployed to Azerbaijan. The goal is the Greater Caucasus. Russia is increasingly being ousted from the post-Soviet space. Turkey has set its sights on the Caspian and further to Turkestan and the Volga region (plus Crimea). Erdogan is trying to create a new Ottoman empire, to build the "Great Turan". Russia and Turkey are being prepared for a new Russian-Turkish war.
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  1. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 21 October 2020 15: 07
    -13 qualifying.
    Indeed - to include everyone in New Tartary, and call the Caucasus the Old Russian Federation!
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 21 October 2020 15: 21
      16
      Indeed - to include everyone in New Tartary, and call the Caucasus the Old Russian Federation!


      laughing wink Natsiks where will you go? Will you lecture them? Will you shoot?
      They are now engaged in self-education. Bleeding each other. When the bloodletting turns into bleeding, they will board a plane and fly to communicate. Or they will not arrive and will gradually begin to dissolve in history and in other countries.
      Then xr2n with them ...
      1. Alexander Shepelev
        Alexander Shepelev 23 October 2020 11: 53
        +1
        Collect all the Nazis and let them fight with themselves.
    2. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 21 October 2020 15: 24
      +3
      ))) Briefly, but semantic content for a large book.
      1. credo
        credo 21 October 2020 16: 04
        +5
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        ))) Briefly, but semantic content for a large book.

        Paraphrasing a well-known saying about Azerbaijan and about Armenia and Georgia, we can say that after the collapse of the USSR their slogan became - "Nationalism as the last refuge of villains."
        It is unlikely that any of the current highbrow "intellectuals" of the listed republics recalls with gratitude what Russia has done in relation to their peoples, and even more so, such an article is unlikely to be published in them as a teaching and edification - they all dream of seeing themselves " Great "and" Ancient ".
        If Azerbaijan and Turkey press the NKAO into Turkey's orbit, Georgia and Armenia will certainly fall into the orbit, despite the fact that Georgia has long been used by Turkey for its own purposes, even without Armenia.
        Neither the experience of the Russian Empire nor the experience of the USSR benefited the peoples of these republics, therefore, a different approach to them is needed if today's Russia really wants to have at least some influence on the processes taking place in them in its own interests.
        So far, such an approach from Russia is not even visible. Either they are waiting in Russia, or they are really doing something, but they do not advertise it to the public.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 21 October 2020 17: 53
          -2
          Quote: credo
          If Azerbaijan and Turkey press the NKAO into Turkey's orbit, both Georgia and Armenia will surely fall

          I don’t know about the Georgians, but the Armenians, remembering about the genocide, will not lie under the Turks, they will rather run wherever they look. And they will look to Russia, because there is nowhere else. Europe and America, in the best case for Armenians, will take a symbolic number of refugees, while in Russia every Armenian has either a relative or a friend. Yes, and questions of linguistics - Russian at the very least, but the majority knows, but what English, what French must be learned. So get ready to either accept refugees or provide military assistance within the framework of the CSTO.
          1. credo
            credo 21 October 2020 18: 12
            +1
            Quote: Nagan
            Quote: credo
            If Azerbaijan and Turkey press the NKAO into Turkey's orbit, both Georgia and Armenia will surely fall

            I don’t know about the Georgians, but the Armenians, remembering about the genocide, will not lie under the Turks, they will rather run wherever they look. And they will look to Russia, because there is nowhere else. Europe and America, in the best case for Armenians, will take a symbolic number of refugees, while in Russia every Armenian has either a relative or a friend. Yes, and questions of linguistics - Russian at the very least, but the majority knows, but what English, what French must be learned. So get ready to either accept refugees or provide military assistance within the framework of the CSTO.

            Armenians may leave NKAO, but not from Armenia.
            Until recently, Armenia had trade relations with Turkey, purchasing various goods from it, therefore, if the NKAO is returned to Azerbaijan, Armenia will continue to exist in its current environment.
            The exodus of the Armenians from Armenia will not be allowed by the powers that be.
          2. boni592807
            boni592807 25 October 2020 19: 23
            +1
            Nagant (Revolver of the Nagant system, model 1895), October 21, 2020 17:53 - "... And they will look to Russia, because there is nowhere else. Europe and America, in the best case for Armenians, will take a symbolic number of refugees, while in Russia every Armenian has either a relative or a friend. So get ready to either receive refugees or provide military assistance within the framework of the CSTO ... "

            And we need it ??? No. It is better to send the previous ones from the Russian Federation to help them. They are doing well with finances, at least. Earned by backbreaking work ... Equipment will be bribed and echelons ... Let the Motherland be saved, and not here they are doing disgrace (media and the Ministry of Internal Affairs crying ).
            Here in the media there was a message they wanted to remove the Russian base from Armenia! Thank you, good luck to them in THIS business and full sovereignty! good
            And our guys go home, they have a job and at home, in Russia, it burns around the perimeter, then look banging. soldier
            R.S. And with Azerbaijan it should be done gently and without exacerbation. Do not forget, this is their territory de jure
            - N. Karabakh. It is with them (Azerbaijan) that the Russian Federation has common interests in the Caspian Sea, and not with Armenia. From which, especially after their friendship with Soros and partners, some problems, incl. and in the Russian Federation (media and the Ministry of Internal Affairs).
            Better on the mind, then fight for influence in Azerbaijan with Turkey good At least they learned from partners in setting priorities or from China ...
            We (Russia) need THIS ??? - hi
            What not to get, getting other people's chestnuts from someone else's fire, an enemy from a distant, but not yet lost, ALLY (Azerbaijan). To the delight of the most "CLOSE" partners. There is an opportunity to "please" Them (partners) - to cling to Turkey, and Iran will catch up there. NATO, will help militants, incl. ISIS and weapons. And then in Syria they will finish off our people, svidomo will rush to Donbas and Belarus will be launched. Here they will be happy ... They (partners) will stand on the sidelines, why do they need our nuclear counterparts. And when (if possible) it gets bogged down in 2 directions of the Russian Federation, you can play the card of the Turks in the Russian Federation .. + the situation with Azerbaijan will help them. Under the "curtain" THEY (partners) can and bang (SNF), Basic Kashtyns (Strategic Missile Forces and ...) for them satellites and militants, etc. from ISIS. will mostly get (try) ...
      2. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 21 October 2020 16: 11
        +5
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        Briefly, but semantic content for a large book.

        Are you talking about the article?
        If yes, then apparently the material is not for the book, but for REMINDERS targeted at some cocky hooligans who think that the elders will not crack their forehead, if need be ...
    3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 21 October 2020 15: 33
      +1
      Quote: Krasnodar
      to include everyone in New Tartary

      I do not know about Tatiria, but Palestinian Syria as part of New Byzantium will definitely stop the bloodshed in the respective lands.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 21 October 2020 17: 20
        0
        Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Quote: Krasnodar
        to include everyone in New Tartary

        I do not know about Tatiria, but Palestinian Syria as part of New Byzantium will definitely stop the bloodshed in the respective lands.

        Forward - unite all the formidable highly developed countries and into battle lol
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 21 October 2020 19: 12
          +1
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Forward

          This is the only option, believe me
        2. 72jora72
          72jora72 22 October 2020 14: 47
          +2
          Forward - unite all the formidable highly developed countries and into battle
          do not worry, in due time you will be cured.
    4. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 21 October 2020 15: 40
      -2
      Albert, Not everyone understood your sparkling - friendly humor in relation to Samsonov.
      I think indeed next time it will blaze in Central Asia (Uzbekistan, Tajikistan), perhaps Moldova (the worst option for Russia because of the PMR).
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 21 October 2020 17: 25
        +2
        Oh ... people can't sit quietly. ((If only everyone would trade instead of color revolutions ... As for the PMR, I don't think that the Moldovans will want to solve this issue by force now, there is no such intensity, nationalism and hatred as in the early 90s. Whom I met - internationalists and adepts.
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 21 October 2020 17: 29
          +3
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Oh ... people can't sit quietly. ((If only everyone would trade instead of color revolutions ... As for the PMR, I don't think that the Moldovans will want to solve this issue by force now, there is no such intensity, nationalism and hatred as in the early 90s. Whom I met - internationalists and adepts.

          Well, it's useless to argue here, the funny thing is - we'll see very soon, in November, the Presidential Elections of Moldova. Yesterday's article on VO about the Moldovan Maidan alarmed me a little, so I started thinking.
          And in Central Asia, what do you think?
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 21 October 2020 17: 55
            +3
            In Uzbekistan - I'm not sure, but if something happens, it will be a very bloody scenario, because power there is in very tough hands. Everything is possible in Tajikistan - we are talking about a very intelligent and vindictive people living at a very low standard of living.
  2. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 21 October 2020 15: 12
    -1
    Russia is being diverted to one more "front". Ukraine - Donbass, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia - Azerbaijan. Who is next?
    Uzbekistan.
    1. Woodman
      Woodman 21 October 2020 15: 21
      +6
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Uzbekistan.

      Maybe Moldova and the PMR? And geography is more convenient, and there is no need to look for prerequisites ... Yes, I am more painful for Russia ...
      In general, it seems that the Yankees, firstly, are in a hurry, though I don’t know why, and secondly, that they no longer have enough funds and opportunities to develop the “success” of color revolutions. Therefore, everything is limited to creating a mess in a given territory without further continuation in the form of bases or the conclusion of some new alliances of a military nature ... The countries of the socialist camp are all in NATO and the EU, the victims of the first wave of color revolutions have been destroyed and in debt, and now everything ends with different conflicts degree of intensity. Either the Yankees have no money, or the Yankees are faced with opposition, which "cannot be filled with money" ...
      But chaos on our borders is created regularly, this cannot be taken away from them.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 October 2020 19: 01
        -1
        Quote: Lesovik
        Maybe Moldova and the PMR?

        It is unlikely, although there will be elections soon in Moldova. Will crash in a Muslim republic, there are elections next year. The reasons are the same as in Kyrgyzstan.
    2. Hypertension
      Hypertension 21 October 2020 16: 36
      +1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Russia is being diverted to one more "front". Ukraine - Donbass, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia - Azerbaijan. Who is next?
      Uzbekistan.

      Tajikistan. Huge unemployment, closed borders in connection with the coronavirus, the political long-liver again settled down for a new term, the US army leaves its "friendly" neighbor - Afghanistan. There are many factors for certain events ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 October 2020 19: 09
        -1
        Quote: Hyperion
        Tajikistan.

        It is excluded that elections were held there, and they are not a Turkic people, but an Iranian one.
        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 22 October 2020 11: 26
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          It is excluded that elections were held there, and they are not a Turkic people, but an Iranian one.

          In Belarus, elections were also held, and Belarusians are also not a Turkic people. Did this somehow save Belarus from kipish?
          And in Uzbekistan everything is more or less calm and even. The new president is not a rabid tsar like Turkmenbashi and is pursuing a sane policy.
    3. Icelord
      Icelord 26 October 2020 18: 06
      0
      I am from Uzbekistan, I can say, you can't wait. And we do not love Russia very much, and we are unlikely to become friends passionately
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 26 October 2020 18: 18
        0
        The times of Alisher Navoi and Tamerlane have sunk into oblivion ...
        Nobody will demand love and consent. They will just force ...
        1. Icelord
          Icelord 26 October 2020 18: 44
          0
          Who will force it, Russia? laughing... There will be someone to intercede, and the army in Uzbekistan is no more, well, less, of course, but also more than all the other Central Asian countries combined. And what does the poet Alisher Navoi have to do with it? Pushkin, for example, died, and Byron. What is it for?
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 26 October 2020 18: 46
            0
            China. Or the USA. Anyone.
            wassat
            1. Icelord
              Icelord 26 October 2020 18: 52
              0
              In our country, the Chinese are not even allowed to buy property, and the United States was not allowed to use the airfield to supply Afgan. We have a very pragmatic policy, not to be friends with anyone, and not to swear with anyone
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 26 October 2020 19: 50
                +1
                Doesn't flatter himself ...
                If Injun Joe is elusive, it is only because no one needs him.
                1. Icelord
                  Icelord 26 October 2020 19: 53
                  0
                  Well, well, in neighboring Kyrgyzstan, China bought everything, but we don't sell, we'd better rot away
  3. Old Bolshevik
    Old Bolshevik 21 October 2020 15: 13
    12
    The Red Army in Transcaucasia had a powerful ideology of Marxism-Leninism, an ideology of friendship between peoples, and proletarian internationalism.
    The bourgeois armies of the Russian Federation, Armenia and Azerbaijan do not have such an ideology.
    A big difference though!
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    2. Gofman
      Gofman 21 October 2020 15: 51
      +6
      Quote: Old Bolshevik
      The Red Army in Transcaucasia had a powerful ideology of Marxism-Leninism, an ideology of friendship between peoples, and proletarian internationalism.
      Yes, like in 1866, and without it?
      Russian Empire 1866: territory of 23700000 sq. km. 3rd place by territory in the history of mankind.
      USSR 1945: territory 22402200 sq. km.
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 21 October 2020 15: 59
        +7
        Quote: Gofman
        Yes, like before and without it?

        There are those whose history of Fatherland begins with Poroshenko. And if such - who is a century earlier. Both the first and the second are united by the fact that in their horizons, plus or minus a thousand years of our history have disappeared somewhere. Maybe you were ill a lot in childhood and missed the school curriculum for a couple of classes? Otherwise I don't know how to explain it.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 21 October 2020 19: 15
          0
          Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
          Maybe you were sick a lot in childhood and missed the school curriculum for a couple of classes?

          Yes Yes ! After measles with a head, not everything is good, and after rubella, children are not born. Poroshenko has many children, which means he has had measles. Although the shard does not remember anything from meningitis.
      2. Kronos
        Kronos 21 October 2020 16: 15
        -1
        And what does the territory have to do with it? There were also conflicts in the Russian empire.
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 21 October 2020 16: 27
          +1
          Quote: Kronos
          There were also conflicts in the Russian empire.


          There were also conflicts in the USSR - in the same Nagorno-Karabakh, 1967, not to be called the year of friendship of peoples ...
      3. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 21 October 2020 16: 47
        0
        Quote: Gofman
        Yes, like in 1866, and without it?

        And then there were orthodoxy, autocracy, nationality.
        Three sources and three components ideology of the Empire. smile
      4. Per se.
        Per se. 22 October 2020 10: 40
        +2
        Quote: Gofman
        Yes, like in 1866, and without it?
        And what is not 1867, when Alaska, under Alexander II, was hastily sold for 7,2 million dollars? That the USSR was only 1945, without taking into account the fact that the Soviet Union after the war became a nuclear and space superpower, with control of the entire territory of Eastern Europe, a powerful bloc of socialist countries, including Cuba? Finally, about the present territory of Russia, under the bourgeoisie and their connivance in international politics, what has been kept silent? So we have the fact that around us there are only colored revolutions and enemy bases.
        1. Icelord
          Icelord 26 October 2020 19: 01
          +1
          Duc in America that senator who was engaged in the purchase of Alaska for a bribe from Russia was imprisoned, they wanted to hang, but then pardoned. What would Russia do with Alaska? So and so they would have left there, but at least they gave a lot of money. For those times, an enormous heap
    3. Dart2027
      Dart2027 21 October 2020 17: 07
      0
      Quote: Old Bolshevik
      The bourgeois armies of the Russian Federation, Armenia and Azerbaijan do not have such an ideology.

      And good. We'll figure it out somehow without ideology.
      1. Igool
        Igool 21 October 2020 17: 36
        +2
        Quote: Dart2027
        And good. We'll figure it out somehow without ideology.

        But this is unlikely. Without ideology at all, it means recognizing all European values ​​as the norm, including same-sex marriages. To love your country is also, in a way, an ideology, because all countries are equal and you must love them all equally. The complete absence of any ideology destroys the established values, to which we are committed.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 21 October 2020 18: 14
          -1
          Quote: Igool
          To love your country is also, in some way, an ideology

          Ideology. But I mean the ideology proposed by the "Old Bolshevik".
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  4. Pravodel
    Pravodel 21 October 2020 15: 13
    +5
    Great article. I was waiting for something like this to appear on VO.
    Indeed, peace in the Caucasus is possible only under the condition of absolute domination and inclusion of all Caucasian "heroes" in the Russian Federation - the empire. Without this, each Caucasian hero will constantly consider himself the main character, trying to crush all the rest, in his opinion, minor heroes. So it was before the entry of the Caucasus into the Russian Empire, so it was restored again after the collapse of the USSR and the heroes gained their independence. We want the Caucasus to be peaceful, it is necessary to include all the current Caucasian pseudo-states in Russia. Another thing is how to really do it. Once they could have done it - the war on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX, then ours did not reach Tbilisi, but they could and could have captured Saakashvili, liberated Georgia from the nationalists occupying it, hold elections and return Georgia to the importance that it had as part of the Russian Empire. They could have done the same in Ukraine, when, after the defeat at Ilovaisk, the troops of the LPR and DPR could reach Kiev, sweep away the Natsik regime and return Ukraine to the Russian World. But none of this was done. As a result, a war is raging along the borders of Russia, which it is not known how to end ...
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 21 October 2020 15: 23
      0
      Quote: The Truth
      Great article. I was waiting for something like this to appear on VO.
      Indeed, peace in the Caucasus is possible only under the condition of absolute domination and inclusion of all Caucasian "heroes" into the Russian Federation - the empire. Without this, each Caucasian hero will constantly consider himself the main character, trying to crush all the rest, in his opinion, minor heroes. So it was before the entry of the Caucasus into the Russian Empire, so it was restored again after the collapse of the USSR and the heroes gained their independence. We want the Caucasus to be peaceful, it is necessary to include all the current Caucasian pseudo-states in Russia. Another thing is how to really do it. Once they could have done it - the war on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX, then ours did not reach Tbilisi, but they could and could have captured Saakashvili, liberated Georgia from the nationalists occupying it, hold elections and return Georgia to the importance that it had as part of the Russian Empire. They could have done the same in Ukraine, when, after the defeat at Ilovaisk, the troops of the LPR and DPR could reach Kiev, sweep away the Natsik regime and return Ukraine to the Russian World. But none of this was done. As a result, a war is raging along the borders of Russia, which it is not known how to end ...

      It is necessary that the Russian Federation would have the political will to do this ... that is, opportunities ... that is ... and 08.08.08 would reach Tbilisi ... and the Lao PDR would long ago become a part of Russia ... And there would be no Natsiks in Ukraine for a long time .. . and ... (here are a dozen more examples) how it was possible to start restoring the Russian Empire right now good but ... this requires the will to win !!! soldier
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        1. Pravodel
          Pravodel 21 October 2020 16: 31
          -1
          I agree. You should never rush, especially in politics. But you always need to look back into history, and history teaches that only by force can you add something that scatters in different directions, only by force can nationalists and Natsiks of all stripes be measured. So it was in the Russian Empire, so it was in the USSR.
          The Caucasus became part of the Russian Empire after the Russo-Turkish War and the first Caucasian War. The Caucasus was annexed to the USSR by the red army, also a power one, which is exactly what is written in the article above.
          There is no other option other than the use of force to pacify the nationalists and Nazis. How to do it is another matter.
          History shows that when the question of survival arises in the Caucasus, they immediately call on Russia.
          When Armenia loses the war, and there is no doubt that it will lose - the nationalists led Armenia to catastrophe, there may be a chance to return to the Caucasus more reliably, from where we were kicked out in the early 90s, but at the same time it will be necessary to resolve the problems with Turkey and Azerbaijan.
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            1. Pravodel
              Pravodel 21 October 2020 17: 05
              -3
              There is no doubt that Russia definitely needs the Caucasus. Again, a little history and a little from afar. The struggle for the Crimea, the annexation of the Crimea and Tavria under mother was a natural necessity for Russia to defend its southern borders. Under the Khan, Crimea was the largest market for the Russian slave trade, and this had to be done away with. Hence, the expansion of Russia to the south and the annexation of the Crimea.
              The annexation of Crimea immediately brought Russia into relations with the mountain peoples, who also began to trade in robbery and smuggling. In this they were supported by England. For protection from the raids of the highlanders, fortresses began to be created on the borders of Russia. Grozny was originally a fortress for protection from the raids of the highlanders, in which the Russian garrison sat. To resume raids and smuggling, the highlanders began to raid the fortresses, in this they were strongly supported by England, which also supplied the highlanders with weapons. The development of this situation later led to the first Caucasian war, in which Russia won, defeating the highlanders and capturing Shamil. After that, the Caucasus calmed down and developed along with Russia.
              With the collapse of the empire in 1917, the small mountain peoples suddenly remembered their greatness and wanted to become great again. In the Caucasus, a war of all against all began again, such a war was fought before the entry of the Caucasus into Russia and was terminated from the moment of entry. The Red Army ended the war by annexing the Caucasus to the USSR. After the late 80s and early 90s, the situation of the collapse of the empire in 1917 was repeated. Again the war of all against all began. The war between Armenia and Azerbaijan is precisely an echo of this war. History shows that only Russia can end the wars in the Caucasus by including the Caucasus in its composition. If this is not done, then the Caucasian war will come to us in the Stavropol Territory, Don, Kuban, as it was before the annexation of the Caucasus to Russia.
              Therefore, judge for yourself whether we need the Caucasus or not. If we want to have a war in the Rostov, Stavropol, Volgograd provinces, then we do not need the Caucasus, if we want peace on our southern borders, then we cannot do without the annexation of the Caucasus.
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  • Icelord
    Icelord 26 October 2020 18: 12
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    And how do you see it? Under what sauce should the troops enter? Forgot that Nagorno-Karabakh is Azerbaijani? Now, enter and get a complete blockade, and not foolish sanctions for the sake of sight
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  • 210ox
    210ox 21 October 2020 15: 14
    +5
    Did the Red Army show the way out? But then the goal was the world revolution of the proletariat. What is it now? Because of the principle of slapping on cabbage soup and both?
  • Svarog
    Svarog 21 October 2020 15: 19
    11
    Russia is increasingly being ousted from the post-Soviet space.

    An "ingenious" foreign policy based on half measures and fabulous ideas about being .. Turkey must be said and does not hide its ambitions .. but we are building a nuclear power plant for it, selling S-400 and laying a pipe .. In other words, we are helping in every possible way in Erdogan's plans .. ... naively believing that he will be an ally ... well, or at least an honest partner.
    1. Daniil Konovalenko
      Daniil Konovalenko 21 October 2020 15: 43
      +2
      Turkey will then become an "honest" partner when it becomes uninteresting to the West, and to the West, it will always be interesting.
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 21 October 2020 15: 20
    +4
    Russia is increasingly being ousted from the post-Soviet space.
    ... How true it is and you will not object. But it seems that Russia itself is not interested in having an influence in the post-Soviet space.
  • Ulrih
    Ulrih 21 October 2020 15: 27
    +3
    Well, let's say the peoples of the Caucasus are ungrateful and cannot / do not want to appreciate the benefits of joining Russia, well, what is to the author? We need to take care of our country, its welfare, etc., to improve.

    According to the author's logic, the Mongols are generally the greatest peacekeepers in history. Over there in Russia, the principalities fought among themselves, fought, and the Mongols came and brought "peace."
    1. Voentorg
      Voentorg 21 October 2020 15: 33
      -4
      Pashinyan merges Karabakh for the sake of rapprochement with NATO. The wise and great Armenian people, as always, chose a great president. Better to live without Russia, its base, the CSTO and without Karabakh. Friendship with the USA is steeper, there are only stones and mountains in Karabakh.
      1. Ulrih
        Ulrih 21 October 2020 15: 35
        +3
        And what does this have to do with my comment?
      2. apro
        apro 21 October 2020 15: 51
        -3
        Quote: Voentorg
        Better to live without Russia, its base, the CSTO and without Karabakh.

        But nothing. that Armeria is a sovereign country? and is building its own foreign and domestic policy? and the Armenian people fought for their sub-dependence from the bloody USSR. Better wish them good luck in their endeavors. And then let alone
  • Old Bolshevik
    Old Bolshevik 21 October 2020 15: 29
    +1
    Without the restoration of the generally binding state ideology of Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism, friendship of peoples, Soviet patriotism and socialist internationalism, enshrined in the Constitution of the Russian Federation, Russia as a state and the Russian people as a state-forming ethnos has no future. The bourgeois Russian Federation under the occupation of the oligarchic gang of the comprador bourgeoisie will never be attractive to other countries and peoples, it does not have an image of the future that the USSR had. The bourgeois Russian Federation is a scarecrow of social injustice, a standard of social stratification of the population into a handful of super-rich parasites (thieves, crooks, hucksters and speculators) and impoverished working people.
    1. Deniska999
      Deniska999 21 October 2020 15: 42
      +2
      All your notorious friendship of peoples is the distribution of free loans, which are then forgiven, or free gifts in the form of weapons and other products.
      1. Old Bolshevik
        Old Bolshevik 21 October 2020 15: 45
        0
        No, the friendship of peoples in the USSR is when a person is a friend, comrade and brother, and not like a wolf in the Russian Federation.
        1. Ulrih
          Ulrih 21 October 2020 15: 49
          +3
          In theory, of course, it's beautiful, but in practice, this was not the case in the USSR. Take at least the same Caucasians.
          1. Old Bolshevik
            Old Bolshevik 21 October 2020 15: 51
            0
            Caucasians in the USSR and Caucasians in the bourgeois Russian Federation have completely different worldviews and upbringing.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 21 October 2020 17: 14
              +2
              Quote: Old Bolshevik
              Caucasians in the USSR and Caucasians in the bourgeois RF have absolutely

              the same worldview. Previously, they were simply afraid that they would get it in the neck from the Armed Forces and the KGB.
      2. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 21 October 2020 15: 46
        +5
        And now the friendship of peoples in Russia is not notorious. Chechnya, Tatarstan, etc.
        1. Old Bolshevik
          Old Bolshevik 21 October 2020 15: 52
          -3
          And in the Russian Federation there is no friendship of peoples, it simply does not exist even in the Constitution of the Russian Federation of 1993. There is only nationalism.
          1. Daniil Konovalenko
            Daniil Konovalenko 21 October 2020 16: 04
            +3
            Called take sovereignty as much as you want smile So they took that they did not want to give, but for the sake of order, this is called a power vertical built ... smile
    2. apro
      apro 21 October 2020 15: 54
      0
      Quote: Old Bolshevik
      Without the restoration of the generally binding state ideology of Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism, friendship of peoples, enshrined in the Constitution of the Russian Federation

      Will this solve something? Without public property. All pieces of paper are empty words.
      1. Old Bolshevik
        Old Bolshevik 21 October 2020 16: 01
        -1
        This can only be solved by the Socialist Revolution 2.0 in the Russian Federation.
        The main question of any revolution is the question of power and the question of property. So it was in 1917, and it will be so now.
        When there are no legal mechanisms for changing power in the state, the elections are turned into a fake farce, and social contradictions in society are constantly growing - the revolution becomes the only possible and inevitable way of resolving irreconcilable contradictions.
        1. apro
          apro 21 October 2020 16: 18
          +4
          Quote: Old Bolshevik
          revolution becomes the only possible and inevitable way of resolving irreconcilable contradictions.

          There is little left ... to do it, but today neither the lower nor the upper need it.
        2. Icelord
          Icelord 26 October 2020 19: 24
          0
          Don't you have enough blood for the communists? Russia suffered little throughout the 20th century? These are the misanthropists of all these fans of Dzhugashvili and his accomplices
  • Artavazdych
    Artavazdych 21 October 2020 15: 36
    0
    I completely agree with the author! The most fertile time in the Caucasus was under Tsarist Russia, and not even under Soviet rule. A big mistake of the communists was the attempt to divide administrative entities along ethnic lines. This is, firstly, almost impossible, and secondly, it is a time bomb. But if they were divided based on the economy, there would be no national disputes. And national identity would be preserved by itself at the everyday level. There is an empire and its provinces - and no one will be able to raise the national question due to the absence of national formations as such. Peace and friendship! Which, in fact, was.
    PS To avoid an unpleasant aftertaste from reading, I will add - the Caucasian peoples do not have the possibility of self-sufficient statehood, not because of their alleged inferiority (nonsense), but because this is a centuries-old crosshair of several large civilizations (empires), and you cannot survive at the crosshairs with heavyweights
    1. MTN
      MTN 21 October 2020 16: 00
      0
      Quote: Artavazdych
      The most fertile time in the Caucasus was under tsarist Russia

      I disagree. For Armenians yes, but not for Azerbaijanis.

      The best years for Azerbaijan were under Soviet rule, and even then not always.
    2. Kronos
      Kronos 21 October 2020 16: 19
      0
      There was no development in the Caucasus under the Russian Empire, only the USSR tried to develop the entire territory.
      1. Artavazdych
        Artavazdych 21 October 2020 16: 25
        -2
        Immediately - who built the railways?
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      1. Artavazdych
        Artavazdych 21 October 2020 18: 32
        -2
        I read this. Well this is Wikipedia.
        It turns out that Russia came and ruined everything?
        Well, then you’ll sort it out with yourself - how about the fact that Russia always comes and puts things in order (saves, gives everyone in the teeth to calm down, or vice versa, waits for each other to bleed - the list is long)
        I read a lot of things in the 80s and 90s, and this is very different from what my relatives saw with their own eyes (and I have relatives on both sides)
        1. icant007
          icant007 21 October 2020 18: 45
          0
          Quote: Artavazdych
          It turns out that Russia came and ruined everything?


          Well, everything is twofold. But thanks to Russia, already Soviet, Armenia and Azerbaijan gained their statehood.
          If not for the sad experience of tsarist Russia, there would be no internationalism during the years of Soviet power.
          1. Artavazdych
            Artavazdych 21 October 2020 19: 14
            -4
            I know firsthand what Soviet internationalism is, older than you. And did Nazism and hatred appear in Soviet times?
            You can denigrate anything and anyone. There are a few simple tricks for this. Man is an easily suggestible being - and it is good if he knows about it.
        2. icant007
          icant007 21 October 2020 18: 58
          +1
          Quote: Artavazdych
          Well, then you’ll sort it out with yourself - how about the fact that Russia always comes and puts things in order (saves, gives everyone in the teeth to calm down, or vice versa, waits for each other to bleed - the list is long)


          I do not at all agree with the point of view that many profess here. Say, let them kill each other there.
          Since childhood, I grew up in an atmosphere of friendship between peoples. I have never divided people into nationalities.
          But I believe that the most that Russia should do in this conflict is to influence Yerevan in order to persuade it to a compromise.
          1. Artavazdych
            Artavazdych 21 October 2020 19: 21
            -2
            The compromise is the Erivan khanate, I don't know if you know or not, and I don't need to try to prove anything here, young man.
            I live in a Russian environment, and so in this environment, opinions and aspirations that are completely opposite to yours.
            1. icant007
              icant007 21 October 2020 20: 45
              0
              Quote: Artavazdych
              and I don't need to try to prove anything here, young man.
              I live in a Russian environment, and so in this environment, opinions and aspirations that are completely opposite to yours.


              Thank you for the young man) I'm 45, in the photo 39.
              I'm not going to prove anything. My Russian environment agrees with me.
              For your environment to have an objective opinion, it must be sufficiently informed about the problem. Most of them think in a philistine way, since the Armenians are Christians, it means our allies. Falling into the same delusion as the Russian Empire. One should try to make friends with everyone, not on the basis of faith.
              Time will put everything in its place.
              1. Artavazdych
                Artavazdych 21 October 2020 20: 47
                -2
                Time will put everything in its place.
    4. Icelord
      Icelord 26 October 2020 19: 28
      0
      Nuclear bang you and the author want? Now start to annex the Caucasus and it will. Thank God, even though Putin seems to understand this, although I have no sympathy for his aggressive foreign policy
  • Eug
    Eug 21 October 2020 15: 47
    +4
    Reading today's articles by Alexander Smsonov, I understand the current relevance of Lenin's works .. Well, this is necessary - so exactly to analyze everything 100 years ago ..
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 21 October 2020 15: 53
    +6
    incorporation into the great Russian empire-power.
    Which is not, and which the modern authorities do not want to create in principle, mortally afraid of their people. Nowhere, neither in the press, nor on TV, nor even on the Internet, you will find today the definition that Russia is a Russian country. With the tenacity of a heavy copra the concept of "dear Russians" is hammered in. And then look Sechin will be offended, or Chubais, who hates Russians at the level of biology, is already shaking the poor fellow.
    And only one small detail - "dear Russians" will not protect the country. This is simply not possible. The country was created and carried on the shoulders of the Russians. It was a Russian country. Refusing to recognize and respect this, our government denies our country the right to exist. We guys exist by inertia. And that inertia remained crumbs ...
  • Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 21 October 2020 16: 17
    +1
    Quote: Gofman
    Yes, like in 1866, and without it?

    In 1866 they still managed, but in 1920 they could no longer do it.
  • Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 21 October 2020 16: 28
    0
    Quote: Artavazdych
    The most fertile time in the Caucasus was under Tsarist Russia, and not even under Soviet rule. A big mistake of the communists was the attempt to divide administrative entities along ethnic lines.

    In an era when the nation had not yet beaten, a fertile time for the peoples in a large feudal empire could strike. But when nations were formed under capitalism, only individual national states or their union (federation, confederation, etc.)
  • nnm
    nnm 21 October 2020 16: 33
    +3
    To be honest, I am surprised at so many people who are calling on Russia to intervene. Excuse me, but for what? Something special pro-Russian mood is not noticeable either in Armenia or in Azerbaijan. Then why interfere? What would, after some time, both those and others again want to expel us and still unite for this? I do not see any positive result for Russia in this action. That some were Soros, that others began to consider themselves Turks.
    Who writes about the PMR - I don't understand either. The Parliament of Moldova, and this is precisely the parliamentary republic, is again pro-Romanian, like the bulk of the population. Well, Dodon will be replaced, is that the difference? There was a Romanian citizen before him - Plohotniuc, who noticed the difference? Me not. It is necessary to focus on the formation of pro-Russian consciousness in Belarus and Ukraine, at most, in Kazakhstan. But the problem is that we do not offer them a different ideology, as well as the absence of corruption, a decent social level, economy, etc., and simply replacing one oligarch with another does not make much sense for them.
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus 21 October 2020 16: 38
    +2
    All this is wonderful and wonderful. But There is no red army now
    In order for it to come somewhere (and Transcaucasia is clearly not the first region where it will come), it must win in Russia itself.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 21 October 2020 17: 03
    +1
    It is difficult to understand why the author was concerned about returning to the mistakes of Pavel Petrovich's sons. Caucasus - strangers, foreign land. for the most part, people are neither "Soviet" nor "pro-Russian." Why lay the heads of our guys on the march to the East? Did Afghanistan and the former Asian "SSRs" not show the hostility of the local population? It was not the "bourgeoisie" who drove the Russians from Tajikistan. Mass terror was carried out by "class brothers" with Soviet certificates.
    It is strange that the educated Mr. Samsonov proposes to once again go through the rake of history.
  • Revival
    Revival 21 October 2020 18: 46
    0
    “The Karabakh war began. Of course, the US and British special services had a hand in this.
    Then the conflict was frozen for a while. "

    Here I would like to tell you more about the role of different countries ...
  • Million
    Million 21 October 2020 18: 48
    0
    The Bolsheviks could do everything, let alone the unlucky present ... boys ..
  • Trojan_wolf
    Trojan_wolf 21 October 2020 19: 32
    0
    Tired of selling pomegranates and apricots, they began to tear each other, what does Russia care about? All the same, they are bad, even from this or that side.
  • WayKheThuo
    WayKheThuo 21 October 2020 19: 52
    +5
    The key phrase is "include in the composition ...".
    This phrase hides a tremendous destructive potential, because, as history shows, if you include someone in your composition, especially for good purposes, you end up with a big pig.
    This was the case with all our former "allies" in the USSR. Almost all the former 14 republics are neutral at best towards my Motherland, and as a rule they take an aggressive wait-and-see attitude.
    And no wonder - for the Russian Federation is now one of the many typical capitalist countries of the Third World. A country that the collective West with all its media resources quite successfully turns into Mordor, or, as Pelevin correctly noted, into a banana republic of evil, into which bananas are imported from Norway.
    But initially, when the Soviet Project began (just like that, with capital letters), Russia, being the flagship of the new world order, promised what? That's right - communism. Has Russia kept this promise? No, I didn't.
    Why love us, or at least respect us?
    This implies:
    1. We need to create a new pole of semantic attraction on this fucking ball.
    2. Provide for our own, I emphasize this in red, only for our citizens at least the following: unconditional satisfaction of basic needs according to Maslow and maximum opportunities for self-realization.
    3. To become successful in everyday life: the standard of living, the level of social well-being and the presence of social lifts.
    And then a simple thought will very quickly enter the brains of the "former" - to be a citizen of the Russian Federation is cool.
    But after that, it will be possible not to "include in the composition ...", but to take it into your sphere of influence, but without any of this pink snot about the brotherhood of peoples, universal values ​​and other crap - an exclusively business-like, pragmatic approach.
    I think so.
  • iouris
    iouris 21 October 2020 20: 43
    +1
    Quote: "Russia and Turkey are being prepared for a new Russian-Turkish war." End of quote.
    The war is already underway. In Syria, there was an aerial Tsushima. Now Port Arthur. Further according to the plan.
  • Fon elia
    Fon elia 21 October 2020 23: 03
    -1
    I agree that there will be no conflict only with a single state. One "but". 100 years ago, the beginning of the first confrontation between peoples. Before that, there was nothing like this in the history of Karabakh. T. E. From the Middle Ages to the 20th century, there was no war. All due to the fact that there were no Armenians in the Caucasus. Only from the middle of the 19th century, Russia began to resettle Armenians from Persia and Turkey to the Transcaucasus. There is an archive of the Russian Empire and the USSR. You can find these materials there.
  • bandabas
    bandabas 22 October 2020 00: 42
    0
    And why should the Russians get into this showdown again?
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  • border
    border 22 October 2020 16: 26
    0
    Quote: credo
    Quote: Nagan
    Quote: credo
    If Azerbaijan and Turkey press the NKAO into Turkey's orbit, both Georgia and Armenia will surely fall

    I don’t know about the Georgians, but the Armenians, remembering about the genocide, will not lie under the Turks, they will rather run wherever they look. And they will look to Russia, because there is nowhere else. Europe and America, in the best case for Armenians, will take a symbolic number of refugees, while in Russia every Armenian has either a relative or a friend. Yes, and questions of linguistics - Russian at the very least, but the majority knows, but what English, what French must be learned. So get ready to either accept refugees or provide military assistance within the framework of the CSTO.

    Armenians may leave NKAO, but not from Armenia.
    Until recently, Armenia had trade relations with Turkey, purchasing various goods from it, therefore, if the NKAO is returned to Azerbaijan, Armenia will continue to exist in its current environment.
    The exodus of the Armenians from Armenia will not be allowed by the powers that be.


    What was the relationship between Turkey and Armenia? The borders have been closed since 93 after the great Karabakh war. All Turkish goods enter (got) to Armenia through Georgia and Russia by shuttle traders (overbought). Less trade was with Iran. So don't write what you don't know about.