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"The next target is Dodon": the SVR learned about the preparation of the US "color revolution" in Moldova

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"The next target is Dodon": the SVR learned about the preparation of the US "color revolution" in Moldova

The next country in which the United States is preparing a "color revolution" will be Moldova. According to the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, Washington is preparing a revolutionary scenario after the country's presidential elections. This was announced by the head of the Foreign Intelligence Service Sergei Naryshkin.


According to the SVR, the United States is preparing a scenario in case the current President of Moldova, Igor Dodon, wins the elections, which does not suit Washington, since he maintains relations with the CIS countries, including constructive relations with Russia.

The United States continues to unceremoniously interfere in the internal affairs of states friendly to Moscow along the Russian border. Rough attempts to influence the post-election situation are being made in Belarus and Kyrgyzstan. (...) the next target is Moldova

- says the press bureau of the SVR.

It has been established that a group of American experts on "color revolutions" is preparing to leave for Moldova on the eve of the vote. The American embassy in the country received instructions on how to work with the Moldovan opposition to organize riots and protests. American diplomats are already convincing the Moldovan security officials not to interfere with possible street protests and "immediately go over to the side of the people."

The US State Department ordered its embassy in Chisinau to set up the opposition in advance to organize mass protests in the event of his (Dodona - approx.) Re-election, demanding the annulment of the voting results

- Naryshkin said.

Fakes about the authorities' plans to resort to election fraud are already being thrown into the country's information space.

The presidential elections in Moldova are scheduled for November 1, with eight candidates running for the post of head of state, including the current president, Igor Dodon.
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  1. Alien From
    Alien From 20 October 2020 19: 01
    -19 qualifying.
    Dodon is not very happy with his own people there ...
    1. Ilya-spb
      Ilya-spb 20 October 2020 19: 05
      +7
      No matter how I realized for Dodon the script of Pushkin's "The Tale of the Golden Cockerel" ...

      Remember? Once upon a time there was a glorious king Dodon ...


      Americans in the role of the Shemakhan queen.
      1. halpat
        halpat 20 October 2020 20: 17
        -6
        And Prince Dodon (Guidon) is sitting there
        He sent you a bow
        Tsar Vovan marvels at the miracle ... smile
    2. Civil
      Civil 20 October 2020 19: 12
      -41 qualifying.
      And what is to us? Let the Maidan sit as much as they can ... the PMR will not touch anyway.
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 20 October 2020 20: 47
        20
        Wherever the FSA climbs, countries are destroyed and terrorists breed like cockroaches, and we don't need it on the border.
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 20 October 2020 21: 17
          13
          Yes, Moldova is not Belarus, and Dodon is not Lukashenko. Dodon has little power and support. It can be VERY hot there and the victory of Russophobes, unfortunately.
        2. figwam
          figwam 20 October 2020 21: 25
          20
          The US State Department ordered its embassy in Chisinau to set up the opposition in advance to organize mass protests in the event of his (Dodona - approx.) Re-election, demanding the annulment of the voting results

          And these people are teaching the whole world about freedom and democracy, the USA must be destroyed.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 21 October 2020 08: 21
            +1
            Quote: figvam
            And these people teach the whole world about freedom and democracy, the usa must be destroyed

            The most offensive thing is that in Moldova there was a Maidan with non-recognition of elections 11 years ago, he won.

            But MEGA brought thieves and criminals to power, the only positive for the West the quality of which was Russophobia. For this, the West forgave them EVERYTHING.

            The young people who arranged for him ALL fled to the West to flee from the chaos that they themselves had done.

            But today others already want to step on the same - with the full, blatant pressure on them from the West, with a DIRECT appeal to the Moldovans NOT to vote for Dodon, but for a lesbian - Western psychopath
      2. vlad106
        vlad106 20 October 2020 21: 35
        11
        Quote: Civil
        And what is to us? Let the Maidan sit as much as they can ... the PMR will not touch anyway.

        Generally speaking, Moldova is an Orthodox country, and Moldovans are quite hardworking and ingenuous people. If the Americans go there to do dirty tricks, then we should probably think about how to still keep this country outside NATO, and maybe even take measures to attract it into our circle?
        after all, if Moldova leaves to the west, it will become very difficult for Transnistria.
      3. German Titov
        German Titov 20 October 2020 22: 54
        +9
        PMR will just touch. I am in the DPR, I talked with the guys from the PMR. "Kneading" Fashington is planning.
    3. deniso
      deniso 20 October 2020 19: 31
      35
      If Russia does not deal with its neighbors, then the United States and NATO do
      1. Machito
        Machito 20 October 2020 20: 02
        14
        After the upcoming Moldovan Maidan, Kazakhstan is next in line. We should do our best to support Hillary Clinton, who calls not to recognize Trump's victory in the US presidential election, in organizing the Maidan in the homeland of the Maidans.
        1. vadson
          vadson 20 October 2020 20: 13
          12
          Quote: Bearded
          After the upcoming Moldovan Maidan, Kazakhstan is next in line. We should do our best to support Hillary Clinton, who calls not to recognize Trump's victory in the US presidential election, in organizing the Maidan in the homeland of the Maidans.

          no, not like that, Biden will win - Trump must be supported and vice versa wassat
        2. halpat
          halpat 20 October 2020 20: 15
          +6
          Quote: Bearded
          After the upcoming Moldovan Maidan, Kazakhstan is next in line. We should do our best to support Hillary Clinton, who calls not to recognize Trump's victory in the US presidential election, in organizing the Maidan in the homeland of the Maidans.

          And also support Trump if he does not recognize Biden's victory smile
          The Foreign Ministry's statement is already ready: We express our deep concern about the situation in the United States after the presidential election ...
          And then substitute any of the two surnames smile
          1. BMP-2
            BMP-2 21 October 2020 01: 06
            +3
            Both surnames must be substituted at once: two Maidans at the same time is much more effective than one! :) Or a third one: named after Hilary! :)) The main thing is that the dissatisfied win, and all at once !!! :))
        3. vlad106
          vlad106 20 October 2020 21: 47
          +4
          Quote: Bearded
          We should do our best to support Hillary Clinton calling not to recognize Trump's victory

          And Hillary that we have already become the Holy Virgin Mary?
          It’s still that undercrowded snake ...
      2. Civil
        Civil 20 October 2020 20: 33
        -14 qualifying.
        Quote: denis obuckov
        If Russia does not deal with its neighbors, then the United States and NATO do

        Give Dudnow a $ 3 billion loan. But not to see the war for Karabakh. Understood.
      3. orionvitt
        orionvitt 20 October 2020 23: 11
        +6
        Quote: denis obuckov
        If Russia does not deal with its neighbors, then the United States and NATO do

        Not certainly in that way. The approaches are different. Over the past thirty years, in terms of support and "goodwill", Russia has poured hundreds of billions of dollars into the economies of its neighbors. But no one sees or appreciates this. Nobody even said thank you. States make it easier. They finance various "organizations", local media and buy specific politicians. Much cheaper and orders of magnitude more effective.
      4. jeka424
        jeka424 21 October 2020 05: 40
        -1
        She doesn't do her own
    4. businessv
      businessv 20 October 2020 20: 35
      +7
      Quote: Alien From
      Dodon is not very happy with his own people there ...

      Duc about that in the article and it is written that yours are not satisfied with it, so your Washington regional committee troops are preparing! wink
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 20 October 2020 21: 48
        +1
        "Yours" forgive anyone?
        1. businessv
          businessv 20 October 2020 23: 21
          +1
          Quote: Alien From
          "Yours" forgive anyone?

          It's ironic, colleague! Your previous post is not correct, so they picked up the sleepers, and I sneered, forgive me generously! hi
    5. vkl.47
      vkl.47 20 October 2020 21: 33
      +3
      As long as the United States exists, there will be wars and color revolutions.
      1. vlad106
        vlad106 20 October 2020 21: 44
        +2
        It's time to shave these states bald ...
    6. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 20 October 2020 21: 44
      +4
      Quote: Alien From
      Dodon is not very happy with his own people there ...

      Satisfied or not with this one. After the previous elections, the opposition has been a little crowded in power, names and faces have been exposed and is now pushing hard on the incumbent president. But if he tries to set up relations with many countries, including the CIS states, the opposition has a clear direction towards the West. So it is quite possible to repeat the "spontaneous" (paid) rallies in 2009!

      Voronin then seems to have listened to advice "from the branches" - not to drive the rallies, and there they put up conscripts with shields against stones and clubs.

      What Dodon will do is not known!
    7. Charik
      Charik 20 October 2020 23: 21
      -3
      where infa-SVR or Washington from?
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 20 October 2020 19: 03
    -18 qualifying.
    It is quite possible ... the Romanians, you still have to give Moldova ..
    1. poquello
      poquello 20 October 2020 19: 20
      +8
      Quote: parusnik
      It is quite possible ... the Romanians, you still have to give Moldova ..

      what a fright ?, and even with an illegal coup, and even with a violation of the democratic choice of the people, if he wins, of course
      1. Cutter
        Cutter 20 October 2020 21: 13
        +4
        The United States continues to unceremoniously interfere in the internal affairs of states friendly to Moscow along the perimeter of Russian borders. Rough attempts to influence the post-election situation are being made in Belarus and

        Nonhumans, DO NOT Crawl INTO MY FAVORITE REPUBLIC OF BELARUS !!! LET'S REMOVE HANDS, WITH A BARREL IN THE HOLE!
        1. vlad106
          vlad106 20 October 2020 21: 42
          +4
          Quote: Cutter
          Nonhumans, DO NOT Crawl INTO MY FAVORITE REPUBLIC OF BELARUS !!! LET'S REMOVE HANDS, WITH A BARREL IN THE HOLE!


          That's right! It's our way ...
        2. poquello
          poquello 20 October 2020 23: 04
          +1
          Quote: Cutter
          The United States continues to unceremoniously interfere in the internal affairs of states friendly to Moscow along the perimeter of Russian borders. Rough attempts to influence the post-election situation are being made in Belarus and

          Nonhumans, DO NOT Crawl INTO MY FAVORITE REPUBLIC OF BELARUS !!! LET'S REMOVE HANDS, WITH A BARREL IN THE HOLE!

          in the course of Tikhanovskaya it is already possible to issue a calendar-quotation book))))))))))), "if before such and such a date, then this is" - with dates)))))))))))))))) )))))
          "- Give us money, otherwise it will be like yesterday!
          “What happened yesterday?”
          - Yesterday they hung me up. "
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 20 October 2020 19: 22
      +6
      Did Romanians who dream of Moldova put any disadvantages? laughing Rome stands on the Tiber, the Romanians look to stiffen .. (c) laughing
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 20 October 2020 19: 36
      17
      Quote: parusnik
      Romanians, we must give Moldova all the same ..

      You would ask simple Moldovans what they think of Romanians before writing nonsense. I will tell you that the Moldovans, especially in the villages, remember very well what the Romanians did on their land. They remember it so well that your - to give Moldova to the Romanians, sounds just as stupid as if they said - to give the Russian Federation to Germany.
    4. mister-red
      mister-red 20 October 2020 20: 11
      +8
      Quote: parusnik
      It is quite possible ... the Romanians, you still have to give Moldova ..

      What are you? Don't you need to ask the population? 3/4 is somehow against this.
      1. aleks26
        aleks26 22 October 2020 12: 12
        0
        Quote: mister-red
        What are you? Don't you need to ask the population? 3/4 is somehow against this.

        Unfortunately, no one will ask them. And if they ask, it is only for show. Who was worried that, according to public opinion polls, practically no one wanted to leave the USSR?
        1. mister-red
          mister-red 26 October 2020 20: 06
          0
          Nobody knew what would happen after the collapse of the Union. What will happen after the unification of Moldova and Romania is clear as daylight. Therefore, ardent unionists are somewhere around 5-10%. So they ask, won't go anywhere
    5. Civil
      Civil 20 October 2020 20: 39
      -8
      Quote: parusnik
      It is quite possible ... the Romanians, you still have to give Moldova ..

      It is impossible, let the Moldovans live in poverty.
      The average salary in Romania is 1080 euros (81 rubles), the minimum salary is 000 euros (465 rubles).
      Average old-age pension
      In Romania - 264 euros.
      In Moldova - 79,5 euros.
      The difference is 3,3 times.

      A reasonable question is what Moscow has to offer? What is the socio-economic alternative?
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 20 October 2020 21: 05
        +4
        Quote: Civil
        Reasonable question

        What are the living costs in Romania and Moldova? And what is the average in Romania, excluding the wealthy there?
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 20 October 2020 21: 49
          +1
          Quote: Dart2027
          What are the living costs in Romania and Moldova? And what is the average in Romania, excluding the wealthy there?

          In Moldova, Chisinau, the full rent in the summer for a 2-ear is 40-45 euros, in the winter an average of 100 euros. And this is without food and other expenses.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 20 October 2020 22: 51
            0
            Quote: Starover_Z
            In Moldova, Chisinau

            And in Romania?
            1. Starover_Z
              Starover_Z 20 October 2020 23: 36
              0
              Quote: Dart2027
              Quote: Starover_Z
              In Moldova, Chisinau

              And in Romania?

              Not in the know what and how there.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 21 October 2020 06: 25
                0
                Quote: Starover_Z
                what and how there.
                That's it
                Quote: Dart2027
                What are the costs of living in Romania and Moldova? And what's the average in Romania, excluding the wealthy there?
                Romania is not an economic giant either.
        2. Civil
          Civil 21 October 2020 09: 58
          0
          Quote: Dart2027
          Quote: Civil
          Reasonable question

          What are the living costs in Romania and Moldova? And what is the average in Romania, excluding the wealthy there?

          Huge, they have winter for half a year and the Arctic circle is near lol in general, use Google and Yandex.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 21 October 2020 10: 53
            0
            Quote: Civil
            in general, use Google and Yandex

            That is, you do not know yourself, but you assure that it is better in Romania?
      2. sheet
        sheet 21 October 2020 10: 37
        0
        Quote: Civil
        A reasonable question is what Moscow has to offer?

        And the Romanians? Sitting with an outstretched hand in front of shops in Europe, like themselves?
    6. ozia
      ozia 20 October 2020 23: 30
      +2
      I did not know that Moldova belongs to Russia and it decides to whom to give. Thanks. Enlightened))).
  3. Mouse
    Mouse 20 October 2020 19: 03
    13
    Are the states going to riot? recourse even if they did the rest ... or do they feel something with their booty ??? Tearing the soles while it's hot .......
    1. poquello
      poquello 20 October 2020 19: 26
      +4
      Quote: Mouse
      Are the states going to riot? recourse even if they did the rest ... or do they feel something with their booty ??? Tearing the soles while it's hot .......

      )))) they have rests like a drug addict with turtles, in Bolivia, the socialists won again
    2. cniza
      cniza 20 October 2020 19: 40
      +3
      Quote: Mouse
      Are the states going to riot? recourse even if they did the rest ... or do they feel something with their booty ??? Tearing the soles while it's hot .......


      In my opinion, they did not leave it ...
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 20 October 2020 19: 44
        +2
        Impressed, but there is no reverse gear .......
        1. cniza
          cniza 20 October 2020 19: 49
          +4
          They did not expect this, if they try to rest they are pushed in, but then they have no more strength ...
          1. Mouse
            Mouse 20 October 2020 19: 55
            +4
            but there is no more strength ...

            I would say that strength is running out ... but these scavengers will start some other nasty stuff and feed themselves ...
            Vultures ...
            1. cniza
              cniza 20 October 2020 20: 00
              +2
              They will try, but they have already devoured everything they can ...
              1. Mouse
                Mouse 20 October 2020 20: 12
                +3
                History shows that they will stand up to their throats in blood and then they will not get drunk ... they would have choked already ...
                1. cniza
                  cniza 20 October 2020 20: 14
                  +3
                  Sooner or later this will happen, so many more troubles will be done ...
                  1. Mouse
                    Mouse 20 October 2020 20: 16
                    +2
                    I wish it would be sooner rather than later ... yes
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 20 October 2020 20: 37
                      +1
                      Everyone wants to, but as they say, we assume, but God disposes ...
    3. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 20 October 2020 20: 47
      12
      Quote: Mouse
      Are the states going to riot? recourse even if they did the rest ... or do they feel something with their booty ??? Tearing the soles while it's hot .......

      So yes, but carried away by the arrangement of a mess near the borders of Russia, the mattresses at their side slipped the elections in Bolivia, as a result of which the pro-American Vlad was defeated with a crushing score, which inspired the opposition forces in Chile and Brazil. So they start to burn there too. For this failure, mattresses traditionally begin to blame Venezuela and Cuba for meddling in the Bolivian elections. It is surprising that we do not appear among the accused.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 20 October 2020 21: 55
        +1
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        It is surprising that we do not appear among the accused.

        Why is Dima so surprised? We are in Syria, Venezuela, even in Nicaragua. And in Bolivia, that is not the wrong fig. There, even a Newbie with Lily Likely does not roll bully
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 20 October 2020 22: 23
          +1
          Quote: Tusv
          Why is Dima so surprised? We are in Syria, Venezuela, even in Nicaragua. And in Bolivia, that is not the wrong fig. There, even a Newbie with Lily Likely does not roll

          Either it’s Vladimir and it’s strange that usually "We are everywhere where we are not", and then suddenly praaaz and "will come to me"! Mystic! winked
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 20 October 2020 22: 31
            -1
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Mystic! winked

            It is necessary to poison the Yankees with dichlorvos - do not take loans. Bam and the Gringo Asprin Miftification
  4. Tusv
    Tusv 20 October 2020 19: 05
    12
    That's interesting. And we can carry out "color revolutions" ala Polite people in Macedonia, Montenegro, in the Odessa region for the exit of Serbia and the PMR to the sea? Seems Yes. Why don't we?
    1. Pavlos Melas
      Pavlos Melas 20 October 2020 19: 09
      0
      Quote: Tusv
      That's interesting. And we can carry out "color revolutions" ala Polite people in Macedonia, Montenegro, in the Odessa region for the exit of Serbia and the PMR to the sea? Seems Yes. Why don't we?

      Sorry in North Macedonia hi and why do you need it just as an annoying factor on the southern flank of NATO?
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 20 October 2020 19: 15
        0
        Quote: Pavlos Melas
        Sorry in North Macedonia hi

        Sorry. I used to speak to Ukraine, not V. The same is with Macedonia. And excuse me, why am I worse than a bastard from the EU, who call Montenegro Montenegro? hi
        1. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 20 October 2020 19: 24
          -2
          Sorry. I used to speak to Ukraine, not V. The same is with Macedonia. And excuse me, why am I worse than a bastard from the EU, who call Montenegro Montenegro? hi
          No, here you are fundamentally wrong, with Macedonia not everything is so simple and here the rules of the Russian language are not violated. Montenegro from the fact that it suddenly became Montenegro will not make a claim to its neighbors. With Macedonia, a completely different story here, sorry to shoot because of this can start.
        2. aleks26
          aleks26 22 October 2020 12: 19
          0
          Quote: Tusv
          And excuse me, why am I worse than a bastard from the EU, who call Montenegro Montenegro?

          Montenegro ?! MonteNEGRO !!!!!!!! Europe calls that ??? But what about political correctness? We need to bring the Ahoamericos there.
    2. Alien From
      Alien From 20 October 2020 19: 10
      -2
      Because the assets and children are there.
    3. Mouse
      Mouse 20 October 2020 19: 11
      +2
      Upbringing is not the same ... we are kind ... we will give the last shirt ...
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 20 October 2020 19: 21
        +3
        Quote: Mouse
        Upbringing is not that ... we are kind ... we will give the last shirt ..

        It's time to moisten it with a "beginner" for some. hi
        1. Mouse
          Mouse 20 October 2020 19: 23
          +7
          As recent events show, the "newbie" has run out ...
          The ice ax will be more reliable ...
          1. vadson
            vadson 20 October 2020 20: 17
            +2
            Quote: Mouse
            As recent events show, the "newbie" has run out ...
            The ice ax will be more reliable ...

            Yes, he was not a newbie there, from the stewardesses, someone just got pinned and an overdose of Purgen gave him
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 20 October 2020 19: 37
      -4
      Quote: Tusv
      Why don't we?

      Because the helmsmen are not the same and are not supplied by us.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 20 October 2020 19: 52
        +3
        Quote: NEXUS
        Because the helmsmen are not the same and are not supplied by us.

        Why then. I chose Putin and he was appointed by me. How democratic. But to choose Navalny is a clear aggression towards me IMHO.
        And they have. the soil is prepared by the Yankees. The electorate is aggressive throughout the "civilizational" world. A polite person can step into fertile soil as a liberator. And it’s stupid to say that the Yankees don’t need to give loans ... Well, in general, the Reasonable program of action and the gringos are fading from the continent
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 20 October 2020 20: 05
          +3
          Quote: Tusv
          I chose Putin and I put him

          Vladimir was not installed by you, but by Yelitsin, who clearly said that this man would continue his work. Elections are a big nourishment that gives people like you the feeling that you are deciding something in the country.
          In the USSR, the people decided de facto, because there were such bodies as the Council of People's Deputies (the supreme body).
          And now the people do not decide ANYTHING. And you haven't chosen anyone.
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 20 October 2020 20: 11
            +3
            Quote: NEXUS
            Vladimir was not installed by you, but by Yelitsin, who clearly said that this man would continue his work.

            Andrew. And if you think about it? First, the prime minister is from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, then from the FSB. Do you really think that Yeltsin could blather something? The transfer of power began immediately with the overthrow of Kinder Surprise. By the way, that is still a surprise for the IAEA. I respect. He squeezed ten percent of the world atom and is not steamed
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 20 October 2020 20: 20
              +2
              Quote: Tusv
              Andrew. And if you think about it? First, the prime minister is from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, then from the FSB. Do you really think that Yeltsin could blather something?

              Vladimir, what if you wake up? We live according to the 1993 Constitution! Which was written to us in the USA. Or do you not know this either? What has changed in it for almost 20 years? Remind you what the GDP said not so long ago? He will not rewrite the Constitution!
              I repeat, Putin is Yeltsin's successor and protégé is definitely NOT THE PEOPLE.
              30 YEARS of noodles on your ears! Aren't you tired of this lies then? 6 five-year plans of promises, theft and slogans.
              I have already said here, after the war, in two five-year plans, Stalin raised the country and made it a leader. FOR TWO FIVE YEARS from devastation, hunger and poverty, with banditry!
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 20 October 2020 20: 29
                +1
                Quote: NEXUS
                Vladimir, what if you wake up? We live according to the 1993 Constitution! Which was written to us in the USA. Or do you not know this either?

                Andrew. Two amendments brought it closer to the ideal Brezhnev. Still, some deputies should be put on an article about parasitism. This is clearly missing in the Amendments
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 20 October 2020 20: 44
                  +1
                  Quote: Tusv
                  Andrew. Two amendments brought it closer to the ideal Brezhnev. Still, some deputies should be put on an article about parasitism. This is clearly missing in the Amendments

                  Vladimir, two amendments are NOTHING. The Constitution is the main law of the country! All other laws are written on the basis of it. We live DE FACTO according to the Constitution written not by us, for our life. Don't you think that this is idiocy? When the Constitution of the country (new) was written in 93, more than 200 versions of it were presented. But Yeltsin chose the one that was given to him in Washington and which he adopted without a PEOPLE'S REFERENDUM.
                  Now about the noodles ..
                  On June 16, 1990, the Constitutional Commission of the XNUMXst Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR was formed, which began this work.

                  The Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR HAD NO POWERS AND RIGHTS, in general, for this, because ONLY THE CONGRESS OF PEOPLE'S DEPUTIES OF THE USSR could decide! That is, this action itself is ILLEGAL.
                  On September 21, 1993, the President of the Russian Federation Boris N. Yeltsin issued a decree "On a phased constitutional reform in the Russian Federation", according to which the Congress of People's Deputies and the Supreme Soviet of Russia were to cease their activities,

                  Yeltsin had no right to dissolve these state bodies at all.
                  On October 15, 1993, President Boris N. Yeltsin signed a decree on popular vote on the draft constitution of Russia and approved the "Regulations on popular vote on the draft Constitution of the Russian Federation on December 12, 1993". According to the Regulation, the Constitution was considered approved if the majority of voters voted for its adoption.

                  That is, even according to their rules, the Constitution was considered adopted if it was FOR it, 50% and one vote. But ... 31% voted FOR! And yet the Constitution was approved and adopted.
                  The term "popular vote" (and not "referendum") was used to circumvent the provision of the current Law on the Referendum of the RSFSR, according to article 9 of which a referendum could only be called by the Congress of People's Deputies or the Supreme Soviet of the Russian Federation

                  Another lawlessness.

                  So what do you choose? Everyone chooses for you, and they hang noodles for you!
                  1. Tusv
                    Tusv 20 October 2020 20: 52
                    +1
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    The Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR HAD NO POWERS AND RIGHTS

                    Don't rub your soul. Andryukha. I left the USSR to serve in the Guards Semi-Military Organization, returned to Yeltsin's Russia
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 20 October 2020 20: 54
                      -1
                      Quote: Tusv
                      Don't rub your soul. Andryukha.

                      You understand that I am right, but you cannot accept this truth.
                      1. Tusv
                        Tusv 20 October 2020 22: 16
                        +2
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        You understand that I am right, but you cannot accept this truth.

                        This is an interesting delusion. My truth is I am a Guardsman. I earn - I spend on my family. My little sister is on my salary. Do you know why? So I have a brother since birth with cerebral palsy and I pay my sister, as for a nurse to my brother.
                        And also the Elder is already with a tower, the Middle one is two out of six. Small in the second year.
                        How can you accept your truth? So that I was a beggar and the boozhuyam cannot be shown?
                      2. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 21 October 2020 00: 24
                        +1
                        Quote: Tusv
                        How can you accept your truth?

                        Just. We live in a colony, not in a metropolis. This metropolis has written the law for us how to live. You may disagree with this, but it's a fact. It's just that the majority turn a blind eye to this, saying that we are sovereign and powerful. We are not sovereign and we are not powerful.
                        Quote: Tusv
                        So that I was a beggar and the boozhuyam cannot be shown?

                        I never thought why in such a free and developing state like the Russian Federation, salaries are lower than European ones? And this is with gas, oil, tough ruler, gold and so on ... m?
            2. Tusv
              Tusv 20 October 2020 20: 44
              -1
              Quote: NEXUS
              I repeat, Putin is Yeltsin's successor and protégé is definitely NOT THE PEOPLE.

              Well, at least let the business develop. For comparison, Yeltsin 20% VAT, Progressive income tax on large salaries (the oligarchs have 9% fixed). Sales tax 2%. Education tax, police tax, etc. The tax burden was business as usual. equal to the game. And for a snack Our social payments are 40%. Where are they?
              So there is no need to say that Yeltsin appointed Putin. Doesn't fit. Well, not in any accounting department hi
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 20 October 2020 20: 49
                +1
                Quote: Tusv
                Well, at least let the business develop.

                Which one? Big business with foreign assets? Yes, but medium and small business in the Russian Federation, in what ass can't you tell?
                Quote: Tusv
                So there is no need to say that Yeltsin appointed Putin. Doesn't fit. Well, not in any accounting department

                Vladimir converges, converges. Look at the GDP growth in which place of the Russian Federation, despite the fact that Russia is the richest and largest country in the world. You have never been visited by a question, why is that? In England, it essentially has neither oil nor gas, but its pound has been the strongest currency in the world for many decades and the British do not live in poverty in their country. Just turn on the logic? How can this be? How can Japan, without nichrome, is the world economy with the most advanced technologies?
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 20 October 2020 20: 57
                  0
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  in the Russian Federation in what ass do not tell?

                  Well I do not know. I pay 14% left. Six is ​​required by the state, the rest is a reward for the ex-wife :)
                  Well, I have three more sons on the budget at HSE. Not complaining. Honestly I never gave bribes to anyone
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 20 October 2020 21: 03
                    0
                    Quote: Tusv
                    Well I do not know. I pay 14% left. Six is ​​required by the state, the rest is a reward for the ex-wife :)

                    To understand that we are not even a developing country, let me give you some numbers ...
                    In developed countries, the percentage of GDP from small and medium-sized businesses ...
                    The share of small and medium-sized businesses in the GDP of developed countries is usually in the range of 50-60%. So, in the USA it is 50%, in the UK - 51%, in Germany - 53%, in Finland - 60%, in the Netherlands - 63% (data from the Institute for the Economics of Growth).

                    In the Russian Federation, the percentage of GDP of small and medium-sized businesses is -23%!
                    That is, an ass that cannot even be called a booming economy. Our GDP growth is ten years! was ONE PERCENT!
                    And we laugh at the Chinese and butt with the United States.
                2. Tusv
                  Tusv 20 October 2020 21: 15
                  +2
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Vladimir converges, converges. Look at the GDP growth where the RF is

                  Well, of course it does, without considering the military-industrial complex. We have a secret secret. Nothing that in the GDP of Borea, the revenue side is not a fig, but the expenditure side of the budget is easy. Yeah hard workers don’t spend their hard earned money and don’t deduct to the budget.
                  We do not send military-industrial complex data to their rating agencies, so what? Is my loaf of bread cheaper? Or has it risen in price?
        2. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 20 October 2020 20: 25
          -2
          In the USSR, the people decided de facto, because there were such bodies as the Council of People's Deputies (the supreme body).


          What did he decide there?
          I don't remember deciding something. Or raise your hand at meetings "decided". Oh well.
          Storytellers.
          All that your head looks back.
        3. poquello
          poquello 20 October 2020 20: 44
          -3
          Quote: NEXUS
          In the USSR, the people decided de facto, because there were such bodies as the Council of People's Deputies (the supreme body).

          fact on the face (which in the translation of Soviet citizens meant horseradish on the snout)
  5. Andobor
    Andobor 20 October 2020 19: 39
    +1
    Quote: Tusv
    And we can carry out "color revolutions"

    We can - it will be expensive, the Americans need to beat the price, they print money, and we earn it,
    - we need it.
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 20 October 2020 19: 57
      +2
      Quote: Andobor
      they print money, and we earn it,
      - we need it.

      Americans print money at around 2% inflation in the Bretton Woods system. They can no longer. If anything
  • Asad
    Asad 20 October 2020 19: 07
    0
    Well, how much influence does Dodon have? So, God forbid, a candle is not a devil of a poker!
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 20 October 2020 19: 16
      +4
      Quote: ASAD
      Well, how much influence does Dodon have? So, God forbid, a candle is not a devil of a poker!

      Yes, not Lukashenka ... They will break ...
      A cook for the president of Moldova will be appointed in Romania, and then according to the manual.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 20 October 2020 19: 40
        +3
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        A cook for the president of Moldova will be appointed in Romania, and then according to the manual.

        There will be no such, from the word at all. The Unionist movement in Moldova is weak. And in the case of a big naughty, these activists will be carried forward with their feet out of Moldova.
        I repeat, the majority, and this is 95 percent of Moldovans, hate Romanians, as their parents and grandfathers very colorfully and lucidly explained what the Romanians were doing on this land.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 20 October 2020 20: 11
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          I repeat, the majority, and this is 95 percent of Moldovans, hate Romanians, as their parents and grandfathers very colorfully and lucidly explained what the Romanians were doing on this land.

          Do Ukrainians have no genetic memory of who the Poles were for the inhabitants of Little Russia? And, nevertheless, the overwhelming part of Ukraine quietly settled down under the 4 polonized Ukrainian regions.

          So here too -
          In the post-Soviet years, the number of Moldovan residents advocating unification with Romania did not exceed 10%. At the end of 2017, sociological polls recorded that 21,8% of Moldovans were ready to lose their statehood and become part of Romania. According to the most recent measurements, the association is supported by 55% of Chisinau residents.
          Today, the number of citizens of the Republic of Moldova, who support the elimination of statehood and unification with Romania, has increased to about 25% of the total population.
          So, Andrei, the stories of grandparents do not touch the young. And what can parents of forty tell them? How do 200 thousand Moldovans plaster walls in Europe, and 500 thousand in Russia?
          And what an interesting flag among Moldovans seeking to Romania is - to be stunned ... Thoughts from the most indecent (who Moldova will be for Romania) to pity for the Moldovans - even a flag without a hole was not found ...
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 20 October 2020 20: 15
            +4
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            So, Andrei, the stories of grandparents do not touch the young.

            You can post any pictures from the Internet ... but I am currently in Moldova. Moreover, before moving to the Russian Federation, I lived here for more than 30 years. Will you argue with me now what is here and how? M
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 20 October 2020 20: 24
              0
              Quote: NEXUS
              Will you argue with me now what is here and how?

              I will not argue. I myself have never been to Moldova - you cannot go everywhere. I write based on what I read and see - that's all. If in Moldova it does not end as it did in Ukraine, but it turns out like Lukashenka’s, then I’m all for it. Did I write somewhere that I really want Moldova to become part of Romania? Yes, I personally, with both hands and feet, only for the fact that the Moldovans resist and do not slide towards some kind of "revolution", and, moreover, to entering somewhere.
              I wish I could buy a box of "Bouquet of Moldova" in red somewhere - it would be absolutely cool - I haven't seen it anywhere for 20 years ...
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 20 October 2020 20: 26
                +2
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                I wish I could buy a box of "Bouquet of Moldova" in red somewhere - it would be absolutely cool - I haven't seen it anywhere for 20 years ...

                It is correct to drink the bouquet of Moldova in the form of a cocktail. It was written on the back of the label.
                But this is not the pinnacle of winemaking; she is Valirianca. wink But KVVK cognac aged 45 years, or 20-year-old Chumay Cahors, is yes.
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 20 October 2020 20: 45
                  +1
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  It is correct to drink the bouquet of Moldova in the form of a cocktail. It was written on the back of the label.
                  But this is not the pinnacle of winemaking; she is Valirianca.

                  At one time they worked closely with our aviation industry, until he ordered us to live long. Well, and where there is aviation, there are "rubbing the details" ... A favorite cocktail is to dilute alcohol in a liter bottle from under the red "Bouquet", which contains 100-150 grams of wine.
                  There was also red wine. The label is so-so, shabby, burgundy with white letters in cursive. Ordinary bottle, "fire extinguisher", and it was called "Chumai" - I still remember the taste ...
                  1. Dikson
                    Dikson 20 October 2020 22: 02
                    +1
                    I don’t remember the name, unfortunately - it happened a long time ago, in 84, to drink Moldovan wine, which, according to my friend, was supplied to the court of Queen Elizabeth ... The one that sits in Great Britain .. On the label there were so many medals that the name is not visible, and what color this label is ..))) And to taste - a very specific drink .. Besides grapes, there were so many herbs of some kind ..
                    1. Zoldat_A
                      Zoldat_A 20 October 2020 22: 55
                      +2
                      Quote: Dikson
                      There were so many medals on the label that the name is not visible, and what color this label is ..))) And it tasted like a very specific drink .. Besides grapes, there were so many herbs there ..

                      I won't say about Elizabeth - maybe Andrey (NEXUS) knows that. But with a bunch of medals and herbs - this is exactly the "Bouquet of Moldova" - the Soviet and very good answer "Chinzano". For me - so surpassed him.
                      1. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 21 October 2020 00: 43
                        +1
                        Quote: Zoldat_A
                        But with a bunch of medals and herbs - this is exactly the "Bouquet of Moldova" - the Soviet and very good answer "Chinzano". For me - so surpassed him

                        I do not agree ...
                        "Bouquet .." - a typical vermouth, and even with an overuse of fillers, albeit herbal. Drinking it in its pure form is like smelling cologne. A clear overabundance of herbs in the composition.
                        hi
                    2. ozia
                      ozia 20 October 2020 23: 46
                      0
                      Eugene it was most likely a Bouquet of Moldavia (so-so. Not for everybody). And the Purcari Cabernet was delivered to the court.
                      1. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 21 October 2020 00: 16
                        -1
                        Quote: ozia
                        And the Purcari Cabernet was delivered to the court.

                        No ... just the Chumai Cahors. No vintage was shipped to England. Moreover, Mr. Snegur has buried the serious export opportunities of Moldova for the export of cognacs. You, a resident of Moldova, are aware that only TWO countries make SOFT COGNACS in the world - this is Malaysia and Moldova?
                      2. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 21 October 2020 00: 32
                        +2
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        TWO countries make the SOFT COGNACS in the world are Malaysia and Moldova

                        "Strugurash". Nuclear thing. And cheap and angry. laughing
                        I beg your pardon for getting into your discussion ... what
                        The "White Stork" was popular on the market of the USSR, it was sold like cognac. And it was not bad.
                        And things were worse with wine. Even in Odessa, it was not easy to buy high-quality Moldovan wine. Simple varieties such as "Ros de mas" reached the shelves.
                        During the holidays, one day, while waiting to be sent to practice, they worked part-time at the Odessa winery. Fortunately, he was a couple of minutes walk from the crew. There they learned the "subtleties of tasting", comparing the taste of Moldovan raw wine delivered to the factory in tanks with the final product coming off the conveyor belt at the winery.
                        Having earned money at the plant, we took a diesel train to Chisinau to taste real wines.
                        I won't go into details, since I don't remember them. From the word "absolutely". I only remember that we started with "Negro de Purcari".
                        And then - a memory lapse ... wassat
                        Good luck sommelier!
                        hi
                      3. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 21 October 2020 00: 43
                        +2
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        I only remember that we started with "Negro de Purcari".

                        The fact is that the Negru de Purcari is a kreplyak in Russian. wink And there, as they say in Moldova about such wine, you drink me, and I will catch up with you. wassat
                        The head will be light, but with the legs, when you rise from the table, all kinds of crap will start happening. laughing Moldovans know about this, and they have a lot of fun when the Russians, saying that they drink in liters of vodka and nothing afterwards, can not understand what happened to their feet from this "compote" wassat
                      4. Liam
                        Liam 21 October 2020 21: 19
                        0
                        Quote: NEXUS

                        The fact is that the Negru de Purcari is a bunch of Russian



                        In your opinion, wine with a strength of 13,5 is fortified?
                      5. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 22 October 2020 02: 13
                        -1
                        Quote: Liam
                        In your opinion, wine with a strength of 13,5 is fortified?

                        Dear, fortified wine DESERT is from 12 degrees to 17 and up to 35% sugar ...
                        Fortified semi-sweetis 12 to 17 percent alcohol, or 5 to 12 percent sugar.
                        Fortified sweet contains 15-17% alcohol and 14-20% sugar. For the production of fortified sweet wines, mature or overripe (raisin) grapes are used. The most famous wines in this category are Cahors and Port (although port is sometimes referred to as a strong wine).
                        Did I explain it to you clearly enough?
                      6. Liam
                        Liam 22 October 2020 06: 31
                        0
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Did I explain it to you clearly enough?

                        You have no idea what you are trying to write about.
                  2. Liam
                    Liam 21 October 2020 21: 39
                    0
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    The fact is that the Negru de Purcari is a bunch of Russian

                    Khorplyak in Russian is Kagor.

                    Kagor is a fortified dessert red wine widespread in the post-Soviet space. As a rule, it is produced by heat treatment: by heating the wort and pulp to 65-80 ° C, followed by fermentation of the wort and aging for at least 2-3 years.
                  3. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 22 October 2020 02: 25
                    -1
                    Quote: Liam
                    Khorplyak in Russian is Kagor.

                    Don't say stupidity, it hurts. Fortified wines of different classes in Moldova were produced unmeasured. I can only enumerate about 15 from memory. In my youth, almost every kid in Moldova knew about a dozen grape varieties. And this despite the fact that many had nothing to do with winemaking at all. But in almost every house they sat down, they pressed wine themselves, both for themselves and for sale. And believe me, this is not the same heap in a tetrapak, which is passed off as wine in Russia sold to the public.
                    So what you pick from Wikipedia, I know from childhood, is cleaner than any Wikipedia.
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 21 October 2020 00: 10
          0
          Quote: Dikson
          I don’t remember the name, unfortunately - it happened a long time ago, in 84, to drink Moldovan wine, which, according to my friend, was supplied to the court of Queen Elizabeth ... The one that sits in Great Britain ..

          All messed up. The Queen of Great Britain is supplied with the CHUMAY KAGOR. This is a church wine (strong). It has no medals or stamps at all. Your friend got it wrong. There is a village like this in Moldavia-Chumai. It is there that the real Cahors are made. No Bulgarian, French, Polish Cahors can be called such. It is the Chumay Cahors that is considered the king of wines. And the technology of its preparation is very specific ... there are herbs and honey and grapes of course.
          As for the Bouquet of Moldavia ... the whole country knew Moldova from this drink, without going into the fact that there are wines in Moldova that are superior to both French top and expensive ones, and Italian ones. If sclerosis does not change me, the history of winemaking in Moldova is about 800 years old.
          1. Liam
            Liam 21 October 2020 20: 59
            +1
            Quote: NEXUS
            All messed up. The Queen of Great Britain is supplied with the CHUMAY KAGOR

            Stop baiting stories with the air of a connoisseur. Queen Elizabeth has never tasted Moldovan wine in her life. Like any other, however. She is teetotal.

            As a (supposedly) expert on Moldova, you will be able to translate the statement of the Moldovan ambassador to Great Britain on this matter.
            Ambasadorul R. Moldova în Marea Britaniei, Iulian Fruntașu, spune că este un mit faptul că Regina Elisabeta II-a a servit vin moldovenesc. Detaliile au fost oferite în cadrul emisiunii Alb & Negru de la UNIMEDIA.

            "Am întrebat-o personal și mi-a spus că nu este a adevărat că a gustat vin moldovneesc. A fost un mit.

            Regina nu consumă alcool. Regina Victoria consuma vin, e adevărat, dar nu Regina Elisabeta II-a. Probabil la Palat există o colecție de vinuri ", a făcut lumină ambasadorul
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS 22 October 2020 02: 43
            -1
            Quote: Liam
            Stop baiting stories with the air of a connoisseur. Queen Elizabeth has never tasted Moldovan wine in her life. Like any other, however. She is teetotal.

            Dear, tales from Wikipedia you are showing here. And what does the drinking queen or the teetotaler have to do with it? Wine went to the queen's court.
            Although in Moldova they argue to this day about the brand of wine. Even here in the branch, the man said that it was not Kagor-Chumai or Kagor-Borchag, but Purkari ... but whatever it was, here are the memories from the participant these events ...
            The Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR A. Kosygin arrives in Moldova. We met, naturally, at the highest level. But in everyday life he is very modest, no feasts with kebabs ... And now they take him to the basements of the famous state farm - the Purcari factory, which is in the middle zone of Moldavian winemaking. Once upon a time, in ancient times, they made excellent dry wine "Negru de Purcari" and "Rosu de Purcari" ("Black Purcarskoe" and "Red Purcarskoe"). Blended wine, that is, a mixture of must from different grape varieties. It had an extraordinary bouquet and taste of slightly toasted cherry pits (especially "Negru de Purcari") with chocolate tones. But the trouble is, the secret of its manufacture has been lost over the years. And already empirically, spending a lot of time and effort, Purcari winemakers have restored the famous wines. This whole story is told to Kosygin and is proudly added that they are supplying Purkarskoye to the court of Queen Elizabeth II of England. - And you send a lot of wine there? - Kosygin asks. - Two boxes, 24 bottles, with special labels, - they answer him.

            - And you take money for this little from the woman? a member of the Politburo is meekly surprised.

            I do not presume to describe the expressions on the faces of the surrounding retinue. Not my pen is needed for this. Perhaps Gogol's, which captured the last scene of The Inspector General.

            The next batch was sent to England as a gift! In return, we received two crates of selected Scotch whiskey. So that's it.
          3. Liam
            Liam 22 October 2020 06: 28
            0
            Quote: NEXUS
            So that's it.

            Are these anecdotes from Murzilka?
  • ozia
    ozia 20 October 2020 23: 23
    +1
    And let me argue NEXUS (I was born in Moldova and lived for almost 50 years).
    “I repeat, the majority, and this is 95 percent of Moldovans, hate Romanians, as their parents and grandfathers very colorfully and lucidly explained what the Romanians were doing on this land.”
    On this score, you have slightly outdated data. Recent polls show that already almost 35% of Moldovans want to unite with Romania (others, almost 20% are not against). And this percentage is growing steadily.
    Now at the expense of "what the Romanians were doing on this earth." Stop spreading this old Soviet tale. Of course, it was not without excesses at that time, but Romanians were very far from Soviet propaganda. Moreover, 90% of the police officers were not Romanians, but Moldovans. So if it was mainly Moldovans who beat them. We have a widespread anecdote on this score.
    -The young man says - I hate Romanians. Why? They hit my grandfather. Where is the grandfather? Died. How? He was shot by the Russians when they arrived.
    Something like this.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 21 October 2020 00: 12
      +1
      Quote: ozia
      Now at the expense of "what the Romanians were doing on this earth." Stop spreading this old Soviet tale. Of course, it was not without excesses at that time, but Romanians were very far from Soviet propaganda.

      Will you tell me this, to a person who has lived for more than 30 years, 5 km from the border with Romania? South of Moldova, if you know, the city of Cahul. Have you heard? So let's not talk about Soviet bikes ... yeah ...
      1. Liam
        Liam 22 October 2020 07: 46
        +1
        I don't know how many years you lived there, but your knowledge about Moldovan wines as well as about Moldovan realities is more than vague. And stories about Romanians are exactly what stories. Under Romanians in Moldova, there were no mass famines with bringing people to cannibalism as with the Soviets. And no one has deported people with tens of thousands of wagons to death in Siberia and Kazakhstan. A huge number of Moldovans have a second Romanian citizenship, in addition to the fact that Moldova has visa-free travel with the EU and everyone is free to ride around Europe. 70% of foreign trade is with Romania and the EU. Moldova receives from there billions of euros in loans, grants and subsidies. Moldovan youth study en masse in Romanian universities, and pro-European parties consistently receive 50 +% in elections.
        PySy.Orange scenarios because of the presidential elections are nonsense, if only because the president in Moldova is a decorative position and because of who he becomes, nothing will change.
  • MA3UTA
    MA3UTA 21 October 2020 02: 02
    -1
    And what an interesting flag among Moldovans seeking to Romania is - to be stunned ... Thoughts from the most indecent (who Moldova will be for Romania) to pity for Moldovans - even a flag without a hole was not found.


    In the photo "unionists", supporters of joining Romania.

    The coat of arms was carved from the state flag of Moldova, thus symbolizing their aspirations.
    1. Liam
      Liam 22 October 2020 13: 43
      0
      Quote: MA3UTA
      In the photo "unionists", supporters of joining Romania.

      Connoisseurs are such connoisseurs ...
      In the photo, the Romanian flag of the times of the uprising against Ceausescu in 89
      1. MA3UTA
        MA3UTA 22 October 2020 20: 11
        0
        Do you have any other information? More recent?

        https://www.btv.md/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/e979bf5db655bffbf0512b948584ceb3.jpg

        http://www.gagauz.md/2016/03/na-vcherashnem-marshe-unionisty-vyrezali-iz-flaga-moldovy-gerb/

        https://noi.md/ru/news_id/94255
        https://point.md/ru/novosti/proisshestviya/neizvestnye-oskvernili-flag-moldovy-v-parke-komrata
        And you are right about one thing, the Romanians have done it before.


        1. Liam
          Liam 22 October 2020 20: 33
          -1
          Quote: MA3UTA
          Do you have any other information? More recent?

          I just enlightened you with the history of the appearance of this flag. You had no idea about it. Even from the links of these photos you can see what kind of Internet sources you "eat".
          Quote: MA3UTA
          And you are right

          Otozh.
          Quote: MA3UTA
          The Romanians have done this before.

          It is a symbol of revolution, not unionism. Unionists do just fine with an ordinary Romanian flag without cutouts
          1. MA3UTA
            MA3UTA 22 October 2020 21: 26
            0
            Even on the links of these photos you can see what internet sources "eat".


            This is a request for Google images to illustrate your incorrect statement .. You misinterpreted the information as my diet ..


            I just enlightened you with the history of the appearance of this flag, you had no idea about it.

            You are overly self-confident in your mentoring.

            It is a symbol of revolution, not unionism. Unionists do just fine with an ordinary Romanian flag without cutouts


            "For lack of a maid" you know .. And, as can be seen from the illustrations, sometimes they resort to desecration of the state flag, carving the emblem of the RM
            1. Liam
              Liam 22 October 2020 21: 43
              +1
              Quote: MA3UTA
              This is a request for Google images

              We will assume that you have specific Google)
              Quote: MA3UTA
              as seen from the illustrations

              Then different flags with different symbols are used In one of your photos there are already three of them - Moldavian, Romanian and this one with a cutout. But you with a keen eye immediately identified which of them is unionist)
              Quote: MA3UTA
              desecration of the national flag by carving the emblem of the RM

              You are also a self-employed lawyer. With the same keen glance, you determined on the fly that it was the Moldavian coat of arms that had been carved. Or maybe the thugs "outraged" the old flag of socialist Romania from the time of Ceausescu and cut this

              Moreover, it is this flag that is the original flag with a cut
              1. MA3UTA
                MA3UTA 22 October 2020 21: 50
                0
                More specifically, this flag is the original flag with a cut

                Unionists have carefully kept flags since the last century, so that at protests against the Moldovan authorities, without legal consequences, they can carve the emblem of socialist Romania.

                Very convincing.

                Otherwise, illustrations from "specific" Google, offered by it "from dubious sources", most likely photoshop.

                Thanks for the expert opinion.
              2. Liam
                Liam 22 October 2020 21: 59
                +1
                Quote: MA3UTA
                Unionists cherish

                You have a keen eye, a rich imagination and zero knowledge in the field of jurisprudence. Try to complain to the Prosecutor's Office about the abusers. Prosecutors will laugh loudly at you.
                By the way.

                Foagov sea and with a cutout only one. There only one unionist was lost and the rest are sovranists. Or scissors were not enough for the abusers. What is your opinion?
              3. MA3UTA
                MA3UTA 22 October 2020 22: 14
                0
                Don't you worry so much
                You shouldn't have just thoughtlessly deny the obvious.

                If you were attentive and courteous, you would have noticed that my post appeared in response to an illustration from Moldova, certainly the flag of Moldova without a coat of arms and not CPP, and this comment

                pity for the Moldovans - they didn't even find a flag without a hole ...



                And then they could shine with knowledge from the history of Romania without mockery.
              4. Liam
                Liam 22 October 2020 22: 27
                +1
                Moldova already has a sea of ​​problems, and then there are two experts on VO. One on wines, the other on holes, flags. If you decided to refute the nonsense of one ignoramus
                even a flag without a hole was not found ..
                , then you should not do this fruit of other ignorance. Unionism in Moldova is not something forbidden and subject to jurisdiction. People can legally obtain Romanian citizenship, advocate for unification, parties that support this are quietly elected to parliament and even periodically enter the government, and this is not is something illegal. Therefore, presenting their supporters as outrages and fantasizing about the Criminal Code causes only mockery. Like a homebrew sommelier who once drank homemade wine in Moldova and confuses Cahors with Purcay and the English royal palace with a building shed
          2. Liam
            Liam 22 October 2020 22: 06
            +1
            Quote: MA3UTA

            Unionists have carefully kept flags since the last century, so that at protests against the Moldovan authorities

            Believe it or not, they also sell them by hand. And inexpensively. And you can also buy them in different kiosks of symbolism, without any abuse.

            Your keen eye will not escape how the neckline differs from the hand in the process of abuse from the one made with the neckline by the hands of a skilled weaver.
  • Interlocutor
    Interlocutor 20 October 2020 20: 29
    0
    Well, how much influence does Dodon have?

    This Dodon is neither here nor there. Sooner or later he will pay for this. He does not have such support as the Belarusians do either inside the country, or we probably will not be able to promptly provide such assistance. Although who knows ...
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 20 October 2020 19: 09
    +4
    To me, too, the secret of the polyshenelia-where the elections are-so there will certainly be brought oopozitionerov in the uniform of the CIA. Who remains there, Central Asia? -Jedems, we are surprised and wave. Then they will announce on TV that once again they could not prevent and so on blah blah blah.
    1. Mouse
      Mouse 20 October 2020 19: 16
      +3
      Waiting for ... 2024 ...
      1. cniza
        cniza 20 October 2020 19: 39
        +2
        Oh, much earlier, first the Duma elections ...
        1. Mouse
          Mouse 20 October 2020 19: 49
          +2
          The Duma thinks the Duma ... that's what the Duma is for ... laughing
          1. cniza
            cniza 20 October 2020 19: 50
            +3
            Whatever she thinks, they will start to rock us not childishly ...
            1. Mouse
              Mouse 20 October 2020 19: 57
              +3
              There is no doubt about that! hi
              All the prerequisites are on the face ...
              1. cniza
                cniza 20 October 2020 20: 01
                +3
                And they are preparing very seriously, we have to wait for new methods, they will ... hi
            2. Interlocutor
              Interlocutor 20 October 2020 20: 32
              +1
              Whatever she thinks, they will start to rock us not childishly ...

              Here pancake Khabarovsk is periodically pumped, and I don't like that. Some kind of demons come out and some kind of sluggish reaction ...
              1. cniza
                cniza 20 October 2020 20: 40
                +2
                That's just the point, so far only the internal ones work, and when will the heavy one connect?
                1. Interlocutor
                  Interlocutor 20 October 2020 21: 02
                  +1
                  That's just the point, so far only the internal ones work, and when will the heavy one connect?


                  Let's look
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 20 October 2020 20: 17
      +2
      Quote: evgen1221
      Who remains there, Central Asia?

      In December, elections in Kazakhstan ...
      Astana and I have a Treaty of Friendship and Mutual Assistance. Recently, the defense ministers signed a program of military (and technical) cooperation. So, soon there will be no laughing matter ... (Turned out with fur inside! Kazakh guys are decisive and merciless ... Therefore, Amov mongrels should seriously think before yapping ...)
      I believe that we will have to fulfill our duty of alliance in practice. It's time to draw conclusions from the fiasco in Ukraine.
      AHA.
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 20 October 2020 19: 14
    +4
    Events around Russia began to unfold very aggressively and progressively. Forerunner of the "X" hour?
    1. nnm
      nnm 20 October 2020 19: 17
      +1
      Rather, even day "M"
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 20 October 2020 19: 39
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir61
      Forerunner of the "X" hour?

      day "D", hour "H" well, by minutes + / -...
    3. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 20 October 2020 20: 35
      +1
      Events around Russia began to unfold very aggressively and progressively. Forerunner of the "X" hour?

      We still see this picture in general terms, but someone probably sees it laid out on the shelves. Just look at her with one eye.
      laughing
  • ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
    ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 20 October 2020 19: 19
    +5
    Can Kadyrov be appointed as the Russian ambassador to Moldova for the duration of the elections.
  • Coconut
    Coconut 20 October 2020 19: 28
    +3
    This should be expected ... Ukraine ... Belarus ... Armenia and Azerbaijan ... logically ... now Moldova ... an open question whether we can handle it or not ...
  • cniza
    cniza 20 October 2020 19: 37
    +9
    American diplomats are already convincing the Moldovan security officials not to interfere with possible street protests and "immediately go over to the side of the people."


    Oh, they will finish badly, let's see what starts after November 3 ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 20 October 2020 20: 25
      +3
      The offices that are trying to rule in the space of our former are autonomous and will work under any administration, because there is complete consensus on these issues in their polypticum!
      Unless denyushek can become thinner, but this is temporary.
      It will not resolve itself, but there is nothing to oppose them, and most importantly, even if someone wants to, he does not know how. Lost class, school, skills ...
      too long for our politicians, the west was a partner !!! And those who were against, who wanted and knew how, are practically gone!
      This is no longer a shame, this is a disaster, the northern fur-bearing animal that clung to our house, spread out and is going to stay here forever!
      1. cniza
        cniza 20 October 2020 20: 38
        +3
        The offices work as long as they are financed, as soon as they are blown away ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 20 October 2020 20: 47
          +1
          Obviously they have problems .... I'm afraid they'll fix them soon.
          We have been with this for a long time and ...... I don’t want to guess, they will expel that fluffy animal or it will remain here until some extraordinary event. I do not know.
          I see the result !!! Those guys have only one .... not even a misfire, but do not understand how it will end there !!!
          And we have ....... well, we have gas in our apartment, and not everyone has it!
          So far, everything looks very sad for us.
          1. cniza
            cniza 20 October 2020 20: 49
            +2
            Well, the picture is really not very good, but we experienced and not so, we will survive this time too.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 20 October 2020 19: 57
    +2
    Well said and said, in charge of intelligence!
    Eka is unprecedented, asking with one more of their former sleeping, not the first time. Here inside the country it wouldn’t be easy to sleep in such small regions, for their own affairs, worries ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 20 October 2020 20: 39
      +3
      Here, here they are preparing for us in orders of magnitude more serious ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 20 October 2020 20: 49
        +2
        Our people turned out to be more persistent, sane ... we were a bit lucky or common sense woke up in some who could pull off such a thing and did not want to surrender the country with all the giblets! Something like this, it seems to me.
        1. cniza
          cniza 20 October 2020 20: 51
          +2
          So there are more than enough living examples, who wants to fall into "Ukraine" ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 20 October 2020 22: 15
            +2
            Psychologists, normal analysts argue that 10% of the population ranges from simply dissatisfied with everything and everyone to the extreme, to simply inadequate psychos. This is now a permanent phenomenon in all developed countries. The numbers fluctuate depending on the situation.
            A normal society has to live with these and neutralize the consequences of their actions!
            Our society has its own characteristics, but the general trends are the same as elsewhere.
            This is now considered the norm!
            We can still digest a lot, due to our properties, foundations and strength !!! But everything, everyone has a limit.
  • Vladyka Ecumenical
    Vladyka Ecumenical 20 October 2020 20: 33
    +2
    As a Moldovan, I will say that this is quite real, because most people hate Dodona at the moment. He is accused of all the troubles of our country and they do it, jackals from the opposition. Of course, our illiterate and poorly educated people believe all these insinuations and say that the time has come to put them in jail.
    By the way, not so long ago he was accused of not being able to do anything, there is no authority but to hand out medals, and now he is almost Al Capone's local. In short, troubled times ahead.
    And about the fact that every day more and more Russophobes in the country, I generally keep quiet, we have the same as in Ukraine, only without a war.
    1. Mishanya74_2
      Mishanya74_2 20 October 2020 21: 03
      0
      <<< Dodona is hated by most people at the moment. >>>>
      What then to talk about?

      What color revolutions are we talking about?
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 20 October 2020 20: 42
    +1
    One of the main reasons for the possible unification of Moldovans with Romania is the possibility of unhindered movement across the territory of the European Union and getting work, the nimble Moldovans have long been living in Europe, Italy is popular, in general, Russia is unlikely to suffer from the loss of Moldova's statehood, our continent is in Transnistria, as it has stood and will remain, the main problem in its provision
  • APASUS
    APASUS 20 October 2020 20: 46
    0
    Knowing this information, why don't our people use it? They would spread it all over the world, they said openly, because it will affect us. As I understand it, the Americans have plans to "ignite" Transnistria!
  • Dikson
    Dikson 20 October 2020 21: 42
    0
    There is no oil .. why does the present-day Russia Moldova? Whoever needs it has already bought vineyards in the Crimea, and whoever needs it more abruptly also in Italy and Spain ..
  • jovanni
    jovanni 20 October 2020 22: 03
    +1
    According to the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, Washington is preparing a revolutionary scenario after the country's presidential elections. This was announced by the head of the Foreign Intelligence Service Sergei Naryshkin.

    Well? Informed, and then what? How many years, how many countries, and apart from messages no intelligible counteraction to these scenarios can be seen. We report and watch how everything collapses ...
  • KreAtiF
    KreAtiF 20 October 2020 22: 43
    +1
    Quote: Civil
    And what is to us? Let the Maidan sit as much as they can ... the PMR will not touch anyway.

    The PMR is isolated, borders only with Ukraine and Moldova, we will lose it, in 5 years there will be no PMR. If not faster ....
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 20 October 2020 23: 03
    +1
    they are already convincing the Moldovan security officials not to interfere with possible street protests and "immediately go over to the side of the people."
    We lived to see how everything in the world turned upside down. In our time, "going over to the side of the people" means betraying your country.
  • Old Bolshevik
    Old Bolshevik 20 October 2020 23: 32
    -1
    Why shouldn't the United States be a little jaded while some of them ride their corgi to exhibitions in London on charters?
  • ozia
    ozia 20 October 2020 23: 52
    0
    Quote: Dart2027
    Quote: Civil
    Reasonable question

    What are the living costs in Romania and Moldova? And what is the average in Romania, excluding the wealthy there?

    Mostly the same.
  • ozia
    ozia 20 October 2020 23: 53
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    And let me argue NEXUS (I was born in Moldova and lived for almost 50 years).
    “I repeat, the majority, and this is 95 percent of Moldovans, hate Romanians, as their parents and grandfathers very colorfully and lucidly explained what the Romanians were doing on this land.”
    On this score, you have slightly outdated data. Recent polls show that already almost 35% of Moldovans want to unite with Romania (others, almost 20% are not against). And this percentage is growing steadily.
    Now at the expense of "what the Romanians were doing on this earth." Stop spreading this old Soviet tale. Of course, it was not without excesses at that time, but Romanians were very far from Soviet propaganda. Moreover, 90% of the police officers were not Romanians, but Moldovans. So if it was mainly Moldovans who beat them. We have a widespread anecdote on this score.
    -The young man says - I hate Romanians. Why? They hit my grandfather. Where is the grandfather? Died. How? He was shot by the Russians when they arrived.
    Something like this.

    And let me argue NEXUS (I was born in Moldova and lived for almost 50 years).
    “I repeat, the majority, and this is 95 percent of Moldovans, hate Romanians, as their parents and grandfathers very colorfully and lucidly explained what the Romanians were doing on this land.”
    On this score, you have slightly outdated data. Recent polls show that already almost 35% of Moldovans want to unite with Romania (others, almost 20% are not against). And this percentage is growing steadily.
    Now at the expense of "what the Romanians were doing on this earth." Stop spreading this old Soviet tale. Of course, it was not without excesses at that time, but Romanians were very far from Soviet propaganda. Moreover, 90% of the police officers were not Romanians, but Moldovans. So if it was mainly Moldovans who beat them. We have a widespread anecdote on this score.
    -The young man says - I hate Romanians. Why? They hit my grandfather. Where is the grandfather? Died. How? He was shot by the Russians when they arrived.
    Something like this.
  • Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 21 October 2020 02: 08
    -1
    Quote: Civil
    It is impossible, let the Moldovans live in poverty.


    And you propose simply to raise the level of poverty by joining the poorest country in Europe.
    Yes, for this Romanian pension, they live so "beautifully" that people have been burning candles in their apartments for years, because there is not enough money to pay for energy efficiency.
    And Romanian getters began to crowd out Ukrainian women in brothels in Europe.
    Yes, there, in Romania, every 3 people under the age of 40 dreams of "dumping".
    The European Union gives grants to small businesses in Romania to contain hordes of hungry and destitute Romanians.
  • barin
    barin 21 October 2020 08: 07
    16
    It has been established that a group of American experts on "color revolutions" is preparing to leave for Moldova on the eve of the vote. The American embassy in the country received instructions on how to work with the Moldovan opposition to organize riots and protests.

    Well, be proactive
  • ozia
    ozia 21 October 2020 09: 25
    +1
    Quote: Comrade Kim
    Quote: Civil
    It is impossible, let the Moldovans live in poverty.


    And you propose simply to raise the level of poverty by joining the poorest country in Europe.
    Yes, for this Romanian pension, they live so "beautifully" that people have been burning candles in their apartments for years, because there is not enough money to pay for energy efficiency.
    And Romanian getters began to crowd out Ukrainian women in brothels in Europe.
    Yes, there, in Romania, every 3 people under the age of 40 dreams of "dumping".
    The European Union gives grants to small businesses in Romania to contain hordes of hungry and destitute Romanians.


    Comrade Kim. And where did you get this nonsense? Have you heard about the Internet? Try looking for something fresh there. Life in Romania is at the level of the Russian one, and even higher in some parameters. Moreover, the dynamics of development there is higher than in Russia, so a couple of years later and you will remain far behind.
    And at the expense, blame ,. I have lived in Adelaide (Australia) for 8 years. In this city alone, the official Russian diaspora counts about 10000 people. Most of them are the professional Russian elite. But I assure you that few of them will teach at universities)))).
    1. Liam
      Liam 22 October 2020 22: 48
      +1
      Quote: ozia
      the poorest country in Europe.

      Comrades do not realize that the poorest EU country lives better than the richest post-Soviet country, although they will not mind living in the poorest Swiss canton