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"This is not a defense plan, but a slap in the face": Norway demands to strengthen the military program

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Despite the promise of generous defense spending, the long-term troop development plan has been criticized by the military, local politicians and the country's parliamentary opposition as "too weak" and "insufficient."


The military program was reintroduced by the Ministry of Defense to parliament. Now the military department is proposing to spend an additional $ 890 million on the military until 2021 and $ 1,8 billion over the limit until 2028.

As can be understood from the program, the main costs will fall on strengthening the forces located near Russia. Firstly, the reorganization of the Sever Brigade (the main unit of the ground forces) is envisaged: it is supposed to be transformed into a mechanized formation with 4 battalions instead of 3 with the transfer of the center of gravity to the province of Tromso (located next to Finnmark, a region bordering on Russia). Secondly, the need for further development of land defense beyond the Arctic Circle in Finnmark is declared.

In terms of updating materiel, it is planned to purchase new tanks and high precision weapons long-range, as well as the phased acquisition of new helicopters to replace the Bell-412.

However, despite the impressive costs, this plan has come under widespread criticism. Several politicians in Northern Norway have expressed the need to intensify efforts. Thus, the mayor of the city of Bardou Toralf Heimdal called the presented program "a ridicule of NATO demands." The military saw in him a "slap in the face" directed against the defense of the state.

At the same time, a number of voices were heard from the opposite camp.

This is an American [not Norwegian] long-term plan to draw Norway even deeper into the increasingly dangerous rivalry between the great powers - the United States and Russia.

- said the leader of the party "Reds" Bjornar Moksnes.

The armed forces of Norway in peacetime have about 23 troops, and including the conscripts and the internal guard with full mobilization - 250 thousand people.

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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 October 2020 16: 47 New
    +3
    Once the Norwegians went to Gardarika (Rus) in raids, and even Great Novgorod was captured (long ago) ... Ancestors memory woke up? But in fact, the military is pulling on the budget, they themselves are not going to fight ... And who inspired them that the Russians will certainly attack?
    1. faiver
      faiver 20 October 2020 16: 52 New
      +6
      they shot a series called "Occupation" how the Russians took over Norway bully
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 20 October 2020 17: 04 New
        +2
        Have not seen! Norgi and the last episode surrendered? hi
        1. faiver
          faiver 20 October 2020 17: 05 New
          +5
          Did the Norgs surrender in the last episode?
          - they gave up immediately laughing
          Moreover, according to the plot, Russia carried out the capture of the country at the request of the European Union. laughing
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 20 October 2020 17: 14 New
            +3
            Before you attack them, you need to drive a tanker of vodka into each of their ports. In three days you can go in. And there will be a world of friendship with chewing gum and a grandiose drunkenness. I do not worry about norgs at all.
          2. Simargl
            Simargl 21 October 2020 11: 48 New
            0
            Quote: faiver
            Moreover, according to the plot, Russia carried out the capture of the country at the request of the European Union.
            Edren loaf!
            Intrigue!
            We have to look. Can I stand it?
      2. Livonetc
        Livonetc 20 October 2020 17: 08 New
        +1
        It would be necessary to make a reciprocal masterpiece movie based on.
        Call it "Intervention" and in Norwegian rental.
        Surely he will make the cash register.
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 21 October 2020 11: 49 New
          0
          Quote: Livonetc
          It would be necessary to make a reciprocal masterpiece movie based on.
          How did the Norwegian army attack Russia and ... get lost?
      3. DIM (a)
        DIM (a) 20 October 2020 18: 32 New
        +4
        YES! Capturing Oslo across the RF-Norway land border should be extremely impressive!
        laughing
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 21 October 2020 11: 50 New
          0
          Quote: DIM (a)
          across the RF-Norway land border
          Finns and Swedes tensed ...
          ... although there is a segment there ...
      4. unhappy
        unhappy 21 October 2020 08: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: faiver
        they shot a series called "Occupation" how the Russians took over Norway bully

        People are bored, life is ordinary and insipid. Why is the topic of zombie apocalypse or the topic of "aliens" so popular? Here's another old topic raised - barbarians from the east will come and rape women and men (now men) laughing
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 20 October 2020 17: 04 New
      +6
      "This is not a defense plan, but a slap in the face": Norway demands
      But what about the tolerant Western commandment ... turn the other cheek? what
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 20 October 2020 17: 08 New
      +5
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      , then they themselves are not going to fight ... And who inspired them that the Russians will certainly attack?

      I already wrote that they assigned themselves the role of the occupiers of Russia, and they assigned garrison men for the initial ram after the bombing.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 20 October 2020 18: 41 New
        0
        Quote: Terenin
        I already wrote that they assigned themselves the role of the occupiers of Russia, and they assigned garrison men for the initial ram after the bombing.

        Quote: Lesorub
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        And who inspired them that the Russians would certainly attack?

        Big striped friend)).
        Military budgets are being sawn under the rhetoric about "evil" Russia) (it is just advantageous to have a virtual enemy - otherwise it had to be invented)

        We would have learned from the "garny lads" - a no brainer that Russia is not going to attack anyone. Therefore, to cut the money and expect that the Big Overseas Friend will protect.

        Yeah .... Norgi are not the same ... Their distant ancestors drank "fly agaric" for fearlessness in battle - these drink so as not to do it in advance. Hence, such "strategic" thoughts ...
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 20 October 2020 20: 44 New
          +4
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Quote: Terenin
          I already wrote that they assigned themselves the role of the occupiers of Russia, and they assigned garrison men for the initial ram after the bombing.

          Quote: Lesorub
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          And who inspired them that the Russians would certainly attack?

          Big striped friend)).
          Military budgets are being sawn under the rhetoric about "evil" Russia) (it is just advantageous to have a virtual enemy - otherwise it had to be invented)

          We would have learned from the "garny lads" - a no brainer that Russia is not going to attack anyone. Therefore, to cut the money and expect that the Big Overseas Friend will protect.

          Yeah .... Norgi are not the same ... Their distant ancestors drank "fly agaric" for fearlessness in battle - these drink so as not to do it in advance. Hence, such "strategic" thoughts ...

          So if we really scare, then the poor fellows will drink at all.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 20 October 2020 20: 48 New
            +1
            Quote: Terenin
            So if we really scare, then the poor fellows will drink at all.

            They don't get drunk with the fly agaric. Here in a special institution, in a company with a couple of Napoleons - easily ... wassat
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 20 October 2020 21: 01 New
              +5
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              Quote: Terenin
              So if we really scare, then the poor fellows will drink at all.

              They don't get drunk with the fly agaric. Here in a special institution, in a company with a couple of Napoleons - easily ... wassat

              Yes, really, Napoleon is a disease: some of them were seriously ill, others were simply poisoned laughing
    4. Lesorub
      Lesorub 20 October 2020 17: 28 New
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And who inspired them that the Russians would certainly attack?

      Big striped friend)).
      Military budgets are being sawn under the rhetoric about "evil" Russia) (it is just advantageous to have a virtual enemy - otherwise it had to be invented)
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 20 October 2020 23: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Lesorub
        Military budgets are being sawn under the rhetoric about "evil" Russia

        Yes, let them saw and spend on their "defense" as much as possible. To the detriment of the social sphere and the rest. Let's see what will happen with the vaunted Norwegian "socialism". There are also Finns and Swedes, who wash themselves there. Let them spend, and we will laugh when the "hungry" Negroes with the Arabs who have come in large numbers will start their wars there. Scandinavia has already been captured, and not at all by the Russians. You just have to wait.
    5. the Saint
      the Saint 20 October 2020 19: 14 New
      -1
      And in my opinion it's cool. After World War II, the myth of friendship between the two countries (Russia and Norway) was created and is still cultivated (only in the USSR and the Russian Federation), which was sealed by the struggle against a common enemy - Hitlerite Germany.
      In fact, the Norwegians took almost no part in the liberation of their country and the Norwegian volunteers fought against the Soviet Union. And already in 1949, Norway, which had just secretly fought with the Soviet Union, entered another anti-Soviet bloc - the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. And even modern Norway has retained a negative attitude towards Putin's Russia.
  2. Alien From
    Alien From 20 October 2020 16: 50 New
    +3
    With a quiet glan, and the ring is squeezed ...
    1. faiver
      faiver 20 October 2020 16: 53 New
      +3
      when can you start being afraid?
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 20 October 2020 17: 01 New
        +3
        Quote: faiver
        when can you start being afraid?

        Probably after the fourth battalion in the "Sever" brigade. Here it is for sure that the Russians will not get through ... But their grandmothers and grandfathers greeted ours with flowers
        1. faiver
          faiver 20 October 2020 17: 04 New
          +1
          why go there, only Spitsbergen is a pity
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 20 October 2020 17: 12 New
        +5
        Quote: faiver
        when can you start being afraid?

        As there winked ... at first I was afraid to be afraid, then I stopped and started.
    2. fn34440
      fn34440 20 October 2020 16: 57 New
      +3
      History repeats itself. The Norwegians have had four generations and now they are, again, brave.
      On June 22, 1941, an extensive propaganda campaign was launched in Norway to attract volunteers to the armed forces of the Reich. Recruitment centers were opened in Norwegian cities, where more than 2 thousand people came. By the end of July, the first three hundred volunteers were sent to Kiel, where there were training camps. On August 1, the creation of the "Norway" legion was officially announced, and within two weeks it included 700 Norwegian volunteers and several dozen Norwegian students who studied in Germany. By October 20, there were more than 2 thousand people in the volunteer legion.
      In 1941 - 1945 years, about 6 thousand Norwegian volunteers served in the SS troops. And in all, up to 15 thousand of Norwegians fought on the side of the Germans with weapons in their hands, even before 30 thousand they served in auxiliary organizations and various services. During the battles with the Red Army on the Eastern Front, more than 1 thousand Norwegian volunteers died, 212 people were captured.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 20 October 2020 17: 04 New
        +3
        In 1940, 1335 Norwegians were killed in battles with the Germans. That is, both there and there were noted.
      2. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 20 October 2020 17: 10 New
        +3
        Quote: fn34440
        During the battles with the Red Army on the Eastern Front, more than 1 Norwegian volunteers died, and 212 people were taken prisoner by the Soviet Union.

        Joy to worms.
      3. Alien From
        Alien From 20 October 2020 17: 29 New
        +1
        Hopefully the norgs were disposed of quickly.
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 20 October 2020 17: 05 New
      +7
      Quote: Alien From
      With a quiet glan, and the ring is squeezed ...

      All contractions, in the end, ended with an increase in the territory of Russia.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 20 October 2020 17: 16 New
        +4
        They definitely have Svalbard. And for centuries it was called Grumant, do you understand my idea? hi
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 20 October 2020 17: 22 New
          +6
          Quote: tralflot1832
          They definitely have Svalbard. And for centuries it was called Grumant, do you understand my idea? hi

          hi
          Well, who does not know about the Soviet mining village.
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 20 October 2020 17: 44 New
            +2
            Under the USSR, there was a saying, Spitsbergen is a country of coal! Small, but a lot. hi
    4. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 20 October 2020 17: 54 New
      0
      With a quiet glan, and the ring is squeezed ...

      Especially from Mongolia
  3. Baian
    Baian 20 October 2020 17: 02 New
    0
    to draw Norway deeper into the increasingly dangerous rivalry between the great powers - the United States and Russia

    This is the whole point of the "anaconda" plan to strangle Russia and the Anglo-Saxons succeed in spite of our resistance .. Now the Norgs are being exposed to the first blow ..
    1. KVU-NSVD
      KVU-NSVD 20 October 2020 17: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: Baian
      to draw Norway deeper into the increasingly dangerous rivalry between the great powers - the United States and Russia

      This is the whole point of the "anaconda" plan to strangle Russia and the Anglo-Saxons succeed in spite of our resistance .. Now the Norgs are being exposed to the first blow ..

      What is our resistance? In the return of positions along the perimeter of the borders?
      1. Interlocutor
        Interlocutor 20 October 2020 17: 55 New
        0
        In the return of positions along the perimeter of the borders?

        Well, for now, We have grown with earth. Who would not blather.
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 20 October 2020 17: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: Baian
      Now the Norgs are exposed to the first blow.

      Do not offend the chew-blocking ones, they consider themselves to be the spearhead of the blow against Russia, but taking into account when the construction season in Russia ends and they return home yes
      1. Baian
        Baian 20 October 2020 17: 51 New
        +2
        Quote: Terenin
        Quote: Baian
        Now the Norgs are exposed to the first blow.

        Do not offend the chew-blocking ones, they consider themselves to be the spearhead of the blow against Russia, but taking into account when the construction season in Russia ends and they return home yes

        Yes, I have not been offended for a long time already ... Especially at these stupid horses .. hi
        They envy Russia that we don’t lick our feet and resist while
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 20 October 2020 18: 13 New
          +4
          Quote: Baian
          Quote: Terenin
          Quote: Baian
          Now the Norgs are exposed to the first blow.

          Do not offend the chew-blocking ones, they consider themselves to be the spearhead of the blow against Russia, but taking into account when the construction season in Russia ends and they return home yes

          Yes, I have not been offended for a long time already ... Especially at these stupid horses .. hi
          They envy Russia that we don’t lick our feet and resist while

          Hi, hi All clear. wink
      2. Mouse
        Mouse 20 October 2020 18: 23 New
        +5
        Do not offend the chew-blocker, they consider themselves to be the spearhead of the blow against Russia

        However, they will have to fight with the Poles ... they also believe that they are on the edge of a knife ...
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 20 October 2020 20: 42 New
          +4
          Quote: Mouse
          Do not offend the chew-blocker, they consider themselves to be the spearhead of the blow against Russia

          However, they will have to fight with the Poles ... they also believe that they are on the edge of a knife ...

          Vasily, I welcome hi You mean - God forbid they quarrel with each other?
          1. Mouse
            Mouse 20 October 2020 20: 47 New
            +4
            God forbid ... I want to say ... wink Do not judge strictly... hi
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 20 October 2020 20: 53 New
              +4
              Quote: Mouse
              God forbid ... I want to say ... wink Do not judge strictly... hi

              Now, for them, this is a matter of national importance winked
              1. Mouse
                Mouse 20 October 2020 21: 03 New
                +4
                Everything is easier ... this fight for the title of beloved wife ... wassat
  4. yehat2
    yehat2 20 October 2020 17: 20 New
    +2
    in 40, Germany and Great Britain fought for the right to seize Norway and both managed to visit there.
    USSR or RF never invaded there with capture
    but the film was made about the occupation of the Russian Federation
    1. Baian
      Baian 20 October 2020 17: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: yehat2
      USSR or RF never invaded there with capture

      I read memoirs (I don’t remember the name), the order was for the troops to be extremely polite .. And these norgs got out of the mines where they were hiding and let's calculate the damage and show the Soviet command (for each tree a broken fence, etc.) .. They even stand behind such sums were winding up .. More often than not, our people huddled in tents!
      Here is gratitude .. And so the Nazis would have poisoned them in these mines or flooded ..
  5. Interlocutor
    Interlocutor 20 October 2020 17: 58 New
    0
    Article - water. The main word is "assumed"
  6. sabakina
    sabakina 20 October 2020 18: 24 New
    0
    Videos 1:18 and 2:14 I'm afraid to sound stupid, but it seems to me that they have a crooked arrow.
  7. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 20 October 2020 20: 34 New
    +1
    It would be better to just disband the army, a waste of money.