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Russia announced its readiness to "freeze" the number of nuclear weapons to extend the START Treaty

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Russia announced its readiness to "freeze" the number of nuclear weapons to extend the START Treaty

Russia continues to support the extension of the Strategic and Offensive Arms Treaty (START) and is ready to "freeze" the number of nuclear warheads if the United States agrees to extend the treaty for a year. This was reported by the Russian Foreign Ministry.


Russia proposes to extend the START Treaty by one year and is ready, together with the United States, to take on a political commitment to "freeze" the number of nuclear warheads held by the parties for this period

- said in a statement by the Russian Foreign Ministry.

At the same time, it is emphasized that the "freezing" of the number of nuclear weapons is possible only if there are no additional requirements from the United States.

The Russian Foreign Ministry believes that the signing of a one-year treaty, subject to the "freezing" of nuclear weapons, will provide an opportunity for additional negotiations on the further extension of the START Treaty.

The Foreign Ministry's statement also notes that Moscow has not yet received an official response from Washington to the Russian President's proposal to extend the START Treaty for one year without any obligations.

The Russian side did not receive an official US response to the note dated October 16, which formulated a proposal put forward by President Putin to extend the current START Treaty for one year. Seen only a few comments from American officials on social media

- stated in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Note that earlier, White House National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien announced that the United States was rejecting the Russian proposal to extend the START Treaty for a year "without preconditions."
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  1. megadeth
    megadeth 20 October 2020 14: 38
    -3
    Maybe it's enough to humiliate ourselves in front of the FSA and Geyropa. Our government became very interested in dealing with the problems of the world and other states, but they forgot about our people and Russia. Pensioners have a phrase: - "" A good pensioner is a dead pensioner. "
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 October 2020 14: 44
      -1
      Quote: megadeth
      Pensioners have a phrase: - "" A good pensioner is a dead pensioner. "

      Do not exaggerate, and do not offend pensioners.
    2. Eldorado
      Eldorado 20 October 2020 14: 52
      +2
      My parents are pensioners, I have never heard this phrase from them!
    3. Lopatov
      Lopatov 20 October 2020 16: 44
      -1
      Quote: megadeth
      Maybe it's enough to be humiliated already

      We are not "humiliated", we are showing our peacefulness against the backdrop of the aggressive NATO bloc.
      They say "we fought to preserve the treaty until the end" ...

      The Americans will sink it anyway ...
      1. for
        for 20 October 2020 22: 54
        +2
        Quote: Spade
        we show our peacefulness

        Themselves. This treaty is not needed not by us, not by the states. Only complete destruction. If you say nuclear weapons, weapons of deterrence, then let it be, but not any agreements. What is the difference 5 or 10 times the whole world is in dust.
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 20 October 2020 18: 00
      0
      Quote: megadeth
      Maybe it’s enough to humiliate ourselves in front of the FSA and Geyropa.

      This is not humiliation, but the subordination of the colony to the mother country. The metropolis, that is, the Anglo-Saxons, have not made any concessions in treaties over the past 30 years, but what do we see? Sanctions, withdrawal from treaties, whipping up anti-Russian hysteria, bases on our borders.
      Ask yourself a question - why the initiator of all concessions is always the RF, and not England or the USA?
  2. paul3390
    paul3390 20 October 2020 14: 39
    25
    I don't understand something - why is this START so stubborn to us? IMHO - it was interesting only in a package with the rest of the contracts, from which the mattress covers successfully came out. And in general - as practice has shown, there is no point in concluding something with them at all - for they will definitely throw them .. It's in their blood, a typical Anglo-Saxon manner. Throw everyone around. Why bounce then?
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 20 October 2020 14: 44
      +4
      There is no money and there will be nothing to respond to the build-up of nuclear weapons from the US
      1. farm2009
        farm2009 20 October 2020 14: 48
        +1
        And not to build up not an option? Well, let's say the United States doubles its nuclear potential, but what does it matter to us?
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 20 October 2020 14: 52
          +2
          The chance of a successful disarming strike is increased. Will be able to spend more nuclear missiles to suppress our nuclear arsenal
          1. farm2009
            farm2009 20 October 2020 14: 57
            0
            They live in the United States and think about how to arrange a nuclear war with Russia, maybe we will disarm it with the first blow, or maybe not and we will all die. And then what to do with China, also detonate a nuclear bomb?
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 20 October 2020 14: 58
              -1
              With China, for a start, Russia can be divided into two. The Chinese will calm down for a long time by mastering the territory, and the United States will get good.
              1. farm2009
                farm2009 20 October 2020 15: 07
                -1
                This is unrealistic, it's like the United States and Germany in the 41st USSR would have divided.
                1. Blackmokona
                  Blackmokona 20 October 2020 15: 10
                  -2
                  What prevents?
                  1. farm2009
                    farm2009 20 October 2020 15: 18
                    -1
                    In general, everything. To begin with, you will need to take a risk and start a nuclear war, even if Russia is victorious, there will be a bunch of blown up nuclear power plants that will fuck up half the world, there will be no more oil or gas, and a bunch of other consequences and for what ??? To continue to compete with China? Which is also likely to intensify after that.
                    1. Blackmokona
                      Blackmokona 20 October 2020 15: 21
                      -2
                      1) Why would the United States blow up nuclear power plants?
                      2) Why would the United States blow up oil, gas and other flows?
                      Well and so on
                      1. farm2009
                        farm2009 20 October 2020 15: 32
                        -1
                        This will not work, either she is all of us at once and tightly, or not at all. And so the risks are colossal.
                      2. t-12
                        t-12 20 October 2020 15: 41
                        -1
                        The main problem, as I understand it, is in short-range missiles. Flight time from the territory of Estonia or from near Kharkov is about 5 minutes to Moscow and 2-3 minutes to St. Petersburg. Those. there is a temptation for a "quick strike": to destroy the Russian federal leadership, which can lead to disorganization and separation of regions (with which it will be much easier for amers to come to an agreement on the basis of "new circumstances").
                      3. farm2009
                        farm2009 20 October 2020 16: 07
                        -1
                        Agree after killing 15 million people? No one in their right mind would take such a risk, we can agree, but maybe not. According to your theory, it turns out that we have no patriots in the Strategic Missile Forces.
                      4. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 20 October 2020 16: 46
                        0
                        Quote: t-12
                        Those. there is a temptation to "swift strike": to destroy the Russian federal leadership

                        And thereby increase the risks for your own country by orders of magnitude?
                        Although Americans are completely without a king in their heads, therefore they can ...
                    2. Blackmokona
                      Blackmokona 20 October 2020 17: 52
                      -4
                      What won't work? If the nuclear arsenal is put out of action, and it is extremely concentrated in the country and its defeat by nuclear weapons will not pollute even 1% of the territory. Then Russia will not succeed in winning the convection war. 3 million soldiers from the west (US and EU) without mobilization and 2 million from the east (PRC) without mobilization. The troops will easily roll out. Fortunately, they can solve any military difficulty with nuclear weapons, which Russia will no longer have.
                      In such a situation, the elite will easily sell everything in order to guarantee the preservation of yachts and mansions in the west and will leave there after the signing of the surrender.
                    3. farm2009
                      farm2009 20 October 2020 18: 37
                      0
                      Who said that the nuclear arsenal is concentrated? The mines are scattered, warehouses too, the Premier League, And how will the elite make me surrender, and millions of other patriots? Will they order them to raise their hands up? Well, we won't do it.
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 20 October 2020 18: 26
          +2
          Quote: BlackMokona
          With China, for a start, Russia can be divided into two. The Chinese will calm down for a long time by mastering the territory, and the United States will get good.

          Not an option. The Chinese know that if Russia is eliminated, they will be next, only this time without insurance from Russia.
          Quote: BlackMokona
          and the US will get well.

          Yeah. They will receive ears from a dead donkey.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 20 October 2020 16: 45
        +1
        Quote: farm2009
        They live in the USA and think about how to arrange a nuclear war with Russia

        Ad intended
        And they do not just "think", but plan and actively prepare for this.
  3. Digital error
    Digital error 20 October 2020 15: 26
    -1
    Quote: farm2009
    And not to build up not an option?

    Before the elections to the State Duma - not an option, "peck". And it's expensive to answer. So already almost half of the promised for the 2018 elections has been "cut" ...
  • paul3390
    paul3390 20 October 2020 14: 51
    +3
    Yes, they do not seem to have money with money either .. In the end - who has an annual budget deficit of two tricks? In addition, as practice shows, our weapons are still significantly cheaper. Again, it would be the will of the leadership, but the money will be found. I planted a couple of alligators with confiscation - here's a couple of new missile divisions ...
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 20 October 2020 14: 54
      -2
      Alligators remained untouchable, the rest have already been dispossessed.
      Well, do they have a deficit and how hard is it for them?
      And cheaper it is actively corrected by effective ones. How many cries about the high cost of new weapons from the army.
    2. Nasrat
      Nasrat 20 October 2020 14: 55
      -1
      Quote: paul3390
      Planted a couple of alligators with confiscation.


      The mental prostate ... These alligators only have places in the Forbes, at the expense of the property of the listed for them - that is, factories, steamers ... what to confiscate? - factory? Well, they confiscated .... but where is the money? Real money? ... Sell their houses to the same alligators?


      Take the average Russian - housing - at least 1,5 lem, car (at the moment) - 0,8 lem, perhaps a summer residence - at least 1 lem .. - and ask - is there money? Answer - no money. and even now in Forbes - a millionaire !!!
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 20 October 2020 15: 03
        +4
        Money in the West. Which, in the correct approach to the tortured, are quite transferred to the accounts necessary for the state. Well, this is all, of course, in the presence of a normal state, and not a new one ..
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 20 October 2020 15: 09
          -2
          Quote: paul3390
          Money in the West. Which, in the correct approach to the tortured, are quite transferred to the accounts necessary for the state. Well, this is all, of course, in the presence of a normal state, and not a new one ..

          And who will determine who will be tortured and who will not? ... I wonder ...
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 20 October 2020 15: 16
            0
            You will not be touched, do not worry. Or are you, too, a billionaire-privatizer, do not fucking make posts here?
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 20 October 2020 15: 20
              -2
              Quote: paul3390
              You will not be touched, do not worry.

              So you're already assigned? the first question - do you take bribes? Well, that is, ransom ... in the form of apartments, cars ... The second question - how long will you resist the temptation? Wondering how long ... (potential alligator?)wassat
              Quote: paul3390
              ... Or are you, too, a billionaire-privatizer, do not fucking make posts here?

              What do you !!! Ask me about money - so, no money !!! winked
    3. Svarog
      Svarog 20 October 2020 15: 01
      +1
      Quote: paul3390
      I planted a couple of alligators with confiscation - here's a couple of new missile divisions ...

      Mdya ... and if before 20 years it would take care of the withdrawal of money from Russia, then there would be a powerful army .. More than a trillion dollars were withdrawn from the Russian Federation during this time, and some are wondering where so much money comes from in the United States .. from here, our oligarchs, together with the economic bloc in the United States, are working ..
      So a couple of oligarchs are not enough here .. Here everyone has hairy little hands.
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 20 October 2020 15: 05
        -2
        Quote: Svarog

        Mdya ... and if before 20 years he would attend to the withdrawal of money from Russia, ...


        Would have sewn it on and all concerns ended ...
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 20 October 2020 15: 30
          0
          Quote: Nasr
          Would have sewn it on and all concerns ended ...

          Stalin was not sewn up .. and there were much more willing ones .. It is necessary to select the appropriate team. Although I agree, the risk in this case is great, but after 10 years of rule, it was already possible to secure yourself and government decisions .. However, the reset took a different path ..
      2. paul3390
        paul3390 20 October 2020 15: 06
        +1
        Duc and divisions, we do not need a couple .. wink There is a lot to do with the possible successors of the case Lavrenty Palycha .. bully But alas, these are of course only fantasies .. In our state, this is impossible. negative The interests of the hucksters will all prevail over all the others. am
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 20 October 2020 15: 12
          -2
          Quote: paul3390
          There is a lot to do with the possible successors of the case Lavrenty Palycha ... am

          It was not the hucksters who put Palych against the wall ... Zhukov personally arrested him ... the successors should think about it ...
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 20 October 2020 15: 13
            +1
            Naturally. All possible lessons must undoubtedly be drawn from the experience of the USSR.
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 20 October 2020 15: 24
              -4
              Quote: paul3390
              Naturally. All possible lessons must undoubtedly be drawn from the experience of the USSR.

              Already removed ... bully
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 20 October 2020 15: 35
                +2
                Quote: Nasr
                Quote: paul3390
                Naturally. All possible lessons must undoubtedly be drawn from the experience of the USSR.

                Already removed ... bully

                Can be more?
              2. paul3390
                paul3390 20 October 2020 17: 31
                +1
                It is noticeable, judging by the complete zhёppe in the country. And every year it gets worse and worse.
          2. Svarog
            Svarog 20 October 2020 15: 34
            +2
            Quote: Nasr
            Quote: paul3390
            There is a lot to do with the possible successors of the case Lavrenty Palycha ... am

            It was not the hucksters who put Palych against the wall ... Zhukov personally arrested him ... the successors should think about it ...

            Palych made a fierce mistake when he began to change the top of the Ministry of Internal Affairs .. he did not calculate everything. And so, yes, that is, they ruined the great organizer and statesman. Although these Malenkovs, Khrushchevs were not suitable for him .. Steel did not finish during the reform of the Central Committee .. he should have remained only cadre functions and ideology ..
    4. Digital error
      Digital error 20 October 2020 15: 30
      0
      Quote: paul3390
      who has an annual budget deficit of two tricks?

      who is demanding to pay back their debts (exactly who demands - quickly and in full)?
    5. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 20 October 2020 16: 19
      +1
      Quote: paul3390
      Yes, they do not seem to have money with money either .. In the end - who has an annual budget deficit of two tricks?

      They will print as much as necessary.
      And any agreement on restrictions also implies control.
      That is, the crowd roaming about objects where they do not need to roam evil spirits.
      "She died, so she died," there is a road.
    6. for
      for 20 October 2020 23: 08
      0
      Quote: paul3390
      Planted a couple of alligators

      It is easier and more profitable to organize any fund or reform (garbage).
  • VORON538
    VORON538 20 October 2020 14: 55
    -2
    There will be nothing to answer, not only the United States. The Ministry of Finance proposes to reduce the number of the RF Armed Forces by 100000 people, by 10 percent. The Ministry of Finance has no money for its army, but there is money for the US government bonds. Soon our Ministry of Finance will tell the army to lay down arms. Apparently, some Westerners are sanctioned still nailed the ayts.
    1. t-12
      t-12 20 October 2020 15: 25
      +1
      As I understand it, 100000 people (all kinds of logisticians) will be transferred to the category of civil servants.
    2. Xscorpion
      Xscorpion 20 October 2020 18: 09
      +2
      The Ministry of Defense has analyzed the proposals of the Ministry of Finance to reduce the size of the Armed Forces (AF) and change certain provisions of the system of social guarantees for servicemen and considers them unacceptable. This is stated in a statement by the Ministry of Defense published on October 20 in the newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda.

      “A motivated position has been sent to the Security Council of the Russian Federation on the inadmissibility of these proposals and the lack of their support from the leadership of the military department,” the statement says.

      Earlier, the media reported that the Ministry of Finance proposed to the Ministry of Defense to reduce 10 percent of the military personnel (100 thousand people) and transfer them to civilian positions. First of all, we are talking about doctors, teachers and financial and legal workers.

      The Ministry of Defense intends to continue working on expanding social protection measures for servicemen and their families. The department indicated that now the number and structure of the Armed Forces have been established by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of Russia and determined based on the entire complex of tasks in the field of effectively ensuring the security of the state. “A stable recruiting system has been formed, which is balanced in terms of the number of posts filled by military personnel and civilian specialists,” the ministry said.

      It is noted that the proposal of the Ministry of Finance to reduce positions will have a zero effect on the country's economy, since funds for the payment of monetary allowances are allocated for the actual number.

      As for the proposals for the transfer of certain positions of military personnel to the civilian service, the reform carried out in 2007-2012 showed its ineffectiveness and led to "numerous problematic issues affecting the combat capability of the Armed Forces," the military department recalled.

      In addition, the legal norms of pension provision are enshrined in current legislation and serve as the basis for social support measures for servicemen and their families, the Ministry of Defense added, noting that the proposal of the Ministry of Finance to establish the maximum amount of monetary allowance taken into account when calculating military pensions does not exceed 80 percent, says about misunderstanding of the procedure for calculating military pensions.

      "The size of military pensions depends on the length of service and ranges from 50 percent of the pay for 20 years of service, up to 85 percent for 32 or more years of service," the ministry said.

      “Taking into account the increase in the military department for various categories of military personnel of the maximum military service life by five years, the Russian Ministry of Defense, together with other federal executive and state authorities, previously worked out in detail the question of the possibility of increasing the minimum length of service, which gives the right to retire, with 20 to 25 years, subject to the implementation of compensatory norms and mechanisms that increase the overall level of social security of servicemen and military pensioners, ”the statement says.

      The document notes that the Ministry of Finance did not support this initiative, "thus, discussion of the issue of increasing the length of service for retirement by military personnel without compensation measures is meaningless."

      The military department drew attention to the fact that "proposals to increase by five years the period for the emergence of grounds for including officers, soldiers and sergeants in the accumulative mortgage system have not been worked out and are not supported." The implementation of this proposal will only increase the cost of providing service housing and paying compensation to servicemen, the Defense Ministry noted.

      "The implementation of the proposals of the Ministry of Finance of Russia will not lead to any economic effect, but at the same time it will significantly worsen the material well-being and social status of servicemen," the Ministry of Defense said in a statement.

      The defense ministry recalled that military service is a special type of civil service, the nature of which involves the performance of tasks associated with danger to life and health, as well as other specific conditions
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 20 October 2020 18: 22
    +1
    Quote: BlackMokona
    There is no money and there will be nothing to respond to the build-up of nuclear weapons from the US

    Happiness lies not in money, but in having enough funds that will overcome the vaunted missile defense system and are guaranteed to deliver nuclear warheads to the White House lawn. The trick is that the existing nuclear arsenals are enough to mutually destroy each other and all these dancing with a tambourine those. with the INF Treaty, are associated with the fact that mattresses impose a new arms race on the world in the hope that Russia will overstrain like the USSR did. Well, there will be not 1,5 charges, but three, five, ten thousand, so what? - Will mattresses or Europeans sleep better? No. Rather the opposite.
  • Nasrat
    Nasrat 20 October 2020 14: 48
    -4
    From the previous branch:
    The American media, citing sources in the Pentagon, report that the United States is increasing its funding for the renewal of its nuclear arsenal. We are talking about a program to modernize the arsenal of nuclear weapons - with the replacement of Minuteman-3 missiles.
    If these figures are to be believed, the estimated cost of upgrading US nuclear weapons is $ 95,8 billion. For comparison, these are two annual military budgets of the Russian Federation.

    To destroy American intercontinental ballistic missiles on the ground, the enemy will need to launch a coordinated attack using hundreds of high-performance and accurate warheads. Today it is an insurmountable task for any potential adversary, with the exception of Russia.

    To date, mine-based ICBMs are deployed in the states of Montana, Colorado, North Dakota, Wyoming, and Nebraska. Their number is regulated by the START-3 Treaty, which expires in February 2021.



    What does this mean? Yes, missiles and mines will be built, and Russia will have to carry out countermeasures - and the money for this will be huge ... we do not have that kind of money! that's why we ask you to extend it, even for a year ...
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 20 October 2020 15: 00
      +1
      To destroy American intercontinental ballistic missiles on the ground, the enemy will need to launch a coordinated attack using hundreds of high-performance and accurate warheads. Today it is an insurmountable task for any potential adversary, with the exception of Russia.


      I did not understand - why should we strive for the complete destruction of their missiles, if we seem to postulate that we are not the first to be the first? And in the event of a retaliatory strike, the main thing for us is to inflict absolutely unacceptable damage on Matrasia, isn't it? Why then certainly strive for parity in carriers and charges? The USSR surpassed the States only by the 80s in this indicator, but after all there was no war before that? For the staff members do not smile at all to pay for the destruction of Russia with even half of their potential. Considering the presence of China, which will gladly finish off and clean up the leftovers.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 20 October 2020 15: 11
        +2
        Quote: paul3390
        Considering the presence of China, which will gladly finish off and clean up the leftovers.

        China will finish off and clean up the one who survives in the fight .. You understand the strategy of the monkey .. And the United States is planning to attack the first, in the plan, at hour X to strike a simultaneous strike in all directions in order to minimize the risk of retaliation, and if the response passes, then the damage will be acceptable .. They have many times more delivery means, especially if we take into account partners, the delivery speed is also significantly higher, given the bases in Europe ... If we had a base in Cuba, then this fact could greatly cool the cowboys, and now it remains to believe that cartoons are reality and that in the very near future they will be implemented in sufficient quantities. It seems to me that the boy was trying to take on the show, but the cowboys did not fall for it and now the drain of interests will begin ..
  • Sergey Obraztsov
    Sergey Obraztsov 20 October 2020 15: 16
    0
    Here I am about the same. The United States retreated before the war with the DPRK, which has a potential of "1.5 missile designs 50 years ago, not the fact that they will fly." Although, of course, this is Trump's merit. Whatever one may say, but he really did not start a single war. And for this I would give him a Nobel Prize, not his predecessor.
    1. t-12
      t-12 20 October 2020 15: 22
      0
      Why would Trump fight the DPRK? The DPRK is not a competitor to the States, does not pose a threat, and there are no natural resources in the DPRK.

      Here is China - yes, a clear competitor. Russia is no longer a competitor, but a source of natural resources.
      1. Sergey Obraztsov
        Sergey Obraztsov 20 October 2020 15: 25
        0
        Quote: t-12
        there are no natural resources in the DPRK.

        Well, yes, and the benefit of isolating this country is not to pump cheap resources from there ...
        North Korea is rich in minerals. Explored coal reserves in North Korea are estimated at 6,6 billion tons. The reserves are represented by anthracite (Pyongyang basin, middle course of the Tedongan River, East Korean mountains) and brown coal (Tumangan and Anju basins). Musan and Yllul large iron ore deposits are located in the north-east and west of the DPRK. Iron ore deposits are usually shallow and open-pit mined. The iron content in the ore is estimated at 40–65%. Polymetallic deposits with a high content of lead and zinc (Komdok, Kandong), copper ores (Kapsan), manganese ores (Kimkhwa), chrome ores (Puryeong), nickel ores (Najin - North Korea), cobalt ores (Tanchkhon), tungsten ores are distinguished from ore deposits. (Mannyeong), molybdenum ores (Kosan, Kumgan). Of the metallic minerals, gold deposits are also being developed (Unsan, Xuan - DPRK). North Korea has the world's largest graphite deposits (Obock - DPRK), significant magnesite deposits (Tanchon, etc.). Barium deposits are being developed. Discovered monazite and thorium, which are used in nuclear power and the military industry.
        1. t-12
          t-12 20 October 2020 15: 33
          -1
          The largest coal reserves are in the United States. Iron is found in Australia and Brazil. However, the main battle (with China) will be for the resources of Africa. Plus, perhaps, for the resources of Russia (sharing them with China?).
  • Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 20 October 2020 14: 40
    +1
    Something I do not like this initiative of our Foreign Ministry.
    Or do we still have cartoons?
    Sense of going to meet the American proposal?
    Let them catch up with us on hypersound.
    Or is it unusual for us to be leaders in this area?
    Well, Gorbachev is not dead yet, call him, he will sign everything.
    Yes, and you can call Kozyrev, Mr. "yes" asking the Americans: "What are Russia's national interests?"
    1. Avior
      Avior 20 October 2020 14: 49
      0
      Russia has a great advantage in non-strategic nuclear charges.
      The United States demands that the new treaty take into account all charges, not just strategic ones, as before.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 20 October 2020 14: 50
      +1
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      "And what are Russia's national interests?"

      Only one is the sale of natural resources and that real estate and accounts are not seized.
    3. stalki
      stalki 20 October 2020 15: 08
      -1
      Something I do not like this initiative of our Foreign Ministry.
      Or do we still have cartoons?
      Sense of going to meet the American proposal?
      Let them catch up with us on hypersound.
      Or is it unusual for us to be leaders in this area?
      Well, Gorbachev is not dead yet, call him, he will sign everything.
      Yes, and you can call Kozyrev, Mr. "yes" asking the Americans: "What are Russia's national interests?" and
      And for me this is the correct feint. It is necessary to use every opportunity to slow down the arms race and pin down the enemy. And we ourselves should develop and work out our potential. What ours are doing. Hypersound is not a panacea, but one of the constituents of containment. We need time and the louse understands this, they themselves take it away. The more time we reserve for development, the less chances they have to screw us up.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 20 October 2020 14: 43
    +1
    Russia proposes to extend the START Treaty by one year and is ready, together with the United States, to take on a political commitment to "freeze" the number of nuclear warheads held by the parties for this period
    Don't the Russian rulers really understand that it is very dangerous to play fair games with card sharpeners and "cheaters"? They will deceive this 100%, bargain for favorable conditions, and impose onerous conditions on the Russians, but if they sign, then deceptions, cunning, accusations and so on will still begin, and it will come to the point that we also crucified Christ, and Uncle's relatives Sam is offended, deceived by Russians with a Buryat appearance.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 20 October 2020 14: 45
      +1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Russia proposes to extend the START Treaty by one year and is ready, together with the United States, to take on a political commitment to "freeze" the number of nuclear warheads held by the parties for this period
      Don't the Russian rulers really understand that it is very dangerous to play fair games with card sharpeners and "cheaters"? They will deceive this 100%, bargain for favorable conditions, and impose onerous conditions on the Russians, but if they sign, then deceptions, cunning, accusations and so on will still begin, and it will come to the point that we also crucified Christ, and Uncle's relatives Sam is offended, deceived by Russians with a Buryat appearance.

      It is in the tradition of Russian diplomacy to hand over all the achievements of the army and the military-industrial complex, with a couple of exceptions during the Stalin period and under a couple of Tsars. Otherwise, either passivity, or curry favor with the West.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 20 October 2020 14: 55
    +4
    Yes, everyone is trying to put our people at the negotiating table. But over 30 years they got used to being exceptional. We are modernizing, but they are still only at the stage of cartoons and then projections. They still do not smell like a glider. And we are for the place of the old warhead. We bet, but the amount does not change. Amers do not like this terribly. Elections and the caronovirus will help them. It's time for others to listen and accept our rules of the game. Which reminds me of the beginning of the 72-year-old super series.
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 20 October 2020 14: 57
    +1
    It seems to me that we are in vain with this treaty. It is not the first time in recent decades that the United States has violated treaties either completely without a fault or by inventing and pulling some kind of abstraction.
    The treaty will not stop the growing gap in the size and efficiency of our economy and the US economy, and therefore, they will simply use the money saved on this not for a stupid increase in "the number of matches in the hands of a person in a puddle of gas", but for the creation of other types of weapons and the same missile defense.

    Of course, I understand that endless clinging to the outgoing architecture of the old world and our place in it is a kind of deviant fetishism of our doctrine of the last 20 years, but from the point of view of real security, the value of this treaty is questionable (given the specifics of current international politics), potential controllability our arsenals on the part of the United States does not meet our interests, in view of their deployment of their nuclear weapons near our borders and changes in the doctrine of using such (erosion of the power threshold, admissibility of use, etc.).

    In my opinion, the time has come for us in any negotiations on a nuclear peace in Europe - to conduct a dialogue with the Europeans, due to their somewhat greater adequacy.
  • taiga2018
    taiga2018 20 October 2020 14: 58
    +1
    Well, well, Russia will "freeze", let's say the United States will "freeze", and the American allies France and Great Britain will agree to this, if not, then what's the point for Russia, or they want to pass off this extension for a year as an outstanding victory of our diplomacy ...
    1. U-58
      U-58 20 October 2020 16: 23
      +1
      The US nuclear allies have not been forcing their nuclear weapons for 20 years, relying on the American umbrella.
      So troubles from this side are not expected in the coming epoch.
  • U-58
    U-58 20 October 2020 14: 59
    +2
    The offer is not brilliant, but in conditions of an acute shortage of funds, it is quite suitable as a temporary measure.
    But will the necromancers respond to such a proposal?
    No matter how much they write about the lessons of the Soviet era, Russia, nevertheless, is being drawn into an expensive arms race.
    Meanwhile, a number of Asian countries have somehow quite amicably began to reorient themselves towards the purchase of American weapons, which further reduces our financial potential.
    They want to ruin and defeat us again on the financial and economic front
    1. Old Bolshevik
      Old Bolshevik 21 October 2020 00: 41
      -1
      The question is why there is always a shortage of funds in the Russian Federation. Have you tried to steal less in the leadership of the Russian Federation and export capital to the West?
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 20 October 2020 15: 06
    0
    The United States will not go without its conditions, and if the Russian Federation goes on the terms of the United States, then the government is sitting on a change of homeland!
  • icant007
    icant007 20 October 2020 16: 19
    0
    ready to "freeze" the number of nuclear warheads


    I did not understand the meaning of this phrase. That is, not to produce new ones?
  • Lesorub
    Lesorub 20 October 2020 17: 18
    +1
    Russia continues to support the extension of the Strategic and Offensive Arms Treaty (START) and is ready to "freeze" the number of nuclear warheads if the United States agrees to extend the treaty for a year. This was reported by the Russian Foreign Ministry.

    Why do we need a treaty - which is immensely difficult to control, and even without China (which is indifferent to other people's opinions), this treaty does not make much sense in the new realities.
  • Baian
    Baian 20 October 2020 17: 37
    +1
    Russia has already offered so many peaceful initiatives to the West .. And in response, silence!
    We only make them angry even more, up to epilepsy ..
    Does anyone remember at least one country with such peaceful statements?
    I don’t remember ..
  • Old26
    Old26 20 October 2020 19: 20
    +2
    Quote: El Dorado
    My parents are pensioners, I have never heard this phrase from them!

    YES and I myself have never heard such an expression. Although most of the comrades are already retired
    Like myself

    Quote: paul3390
    I don't understand something - why is this START so stubborn to us? IMHO - it was interesting only in a package with the rest of the contracts, from which the mattress covers successfully came out.

    We are interested in it even without a package of other contracts. We need time for the same rearmament of the Strategic Missile Forces. And if now this one is "covered" too, we will get a headache. It will be necessary to deploy the MRBM and intensify the rearmament of the Strategic Missile Forces. And this we will not pull.

    Quote: paul3390
    And in general - as practice has shown, there is no point in concluding something with them at all - for they will definitely throw them .. It's in their blood, a typical Anglo-Saxon manner. Throw everyone around. Why bounce then?

    Has practice shown? I would be extremely grateful to you if you could give an example of when and where the US threw us under strategic treaties

    Quote: BlackMokona
    There is no money and there will be nothing to respond to the build-up of nuclear weapons from the US

    The thing is that the Americans have nothing to build up their arsenal. The maximum they have is a reserve (return potential) - for 2020 it is 2050 warheads (+/- 50-70). They will be able to produce new ones no earlier than 2030-2035. But with the existing ones, they can increase the number of warheads on their SLBMs, which poses the greatest danger and the number of warheads on ICBMs.
    Although we have more such BBs - about 2740, we do not have such a reserve on missiles where they can be delivered

    Quote: t-12
    The main problem, as I understand it, is in short-range missiles. Flight time from the territory of Estonia or from near Kharkov is about 5 minutes to Moscow and 2-3 minutes to St. Petersburg. Those. there is a temptation for a "quick strike": to destroy the Russian federal leadership, which can lead to disorganization and separation of regions (with which it will be much easier for amers to come to an agreement on the basis of "new circumstances").

    There is no problem with short-range missiles. Because the Americans don't have short-range missiles. The problem may arise if either operational-tactical extended-range missiles (from 500 to 1000 km) or medium-range missiles (ballistic) are deployed, but they and their BG are not taken into account in the START-3 treaty. And they are not yet from the word at all

    Quote: Nasr
    May they make rockets and mines,

    The mines can of course be dug, no problem. But what about the ICBM? Now work has just started on the development of a new ICBM. They will do the same by 2035, not earlier ...

    To destroy American intercontinental ballistic missiles on the ground, the enemy will need to launch a coordinated attack using hundreds of high-performance and accurate warheads. Today it is an insurmountable task for any potential adversary, with the exception of Russia.

    This is utter nonsense. The Americans have a missile attack warning system. And their missiles go off even before our warheads hit their mines. It's the same with us. Our ICBMs start before the American BBs hit our already empty mines

    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    Something I do not like this initiative of our Foreign Ministry.

    Initiative as an initiative. With this initiative, we are killing two birds with one stone. First, if the United States rejects this option, then we can get political points, saying that we have taken all measures to preserve peace. Secondly, even freezing the arsenals for 1 year will benefit the Americans.

    Quote: icant007
    I did not understand the meaning of this phrase. That is, not to produce new ones?

    Yes
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 20 October 2020 22: 25
    +1
    I think it will be extended for another year.
  • Old Bolshevik
    Old Bolshevik 21 October 2020 00: 39
    -5
    The whole country has been plundered for 30 years, trillions of dollars have been exported from the Russian Federation to the West and offshore and continue to be exported madly.
    There is simply no money for the arms race - all the money went to top managers of Gazprom, Rosneft, Norilsk Nickel, etc.
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation will soon kneel before the United States, if necessary, and with a hat will go around the world, only to be extended a little - at least a year to breathe before ...
  • ljoha_d
    ljoha_d 21 October 2020 16: 32
    0
    What, we started to bend ???