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American press: the United States is ready for a submarine war with Russia

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American press: the United States is ready for a submarine war with Russia

The US naval forces are ready for a submarine war with Russia, the world's best and secret multipurpose nuclear submarine "Seawolf" (USS Seawolf) is stationed in the waters of the North Atlantic. Writes about this David Ax for the American edition of Forbes.


Russia has spent many decades training its submarine forces and in 2019 demonstrated the power of its submarines to the whole world by launching eight submarines, including six nuclear-powered ones, into the Norwegian and Barents Seas. The Russians, the author writes, practiced actions to protect areas of the ocean, from which Russian ballistic missile submarines would launch their intercontinental missiles, "destroying civilization."

However, the American Navy did not stand still, preparing its forces to confront Russian submarines. It is the secret multipurpose nuclear submarine Seawolf, which appeared in the North Atlantic a year later, intended to break through the Russian defense in these waters.

As David Ax points out, Russian submarine forces, modernized in recent years, now pose a serious threat not only to Europe, but also to North America. Russian SSBNs are capable of striking continental America from the waters of the Norwegian and Barents Seas. The US East Coast is no longer safe.

We see more and more Russian submarines in the Atlantic. And these submarines are more advanced today - they can stay at sea longer and have more deadly on board. weapons

- quotes the author of the words of the commander of the Second fleet US Navy Vice Admiral Andrew Lewis.

However, as David Ax points out, the creation of the Seawolf submarine is part of the final response of the US Navy to the development of the Russian submarine fleet.

The Seawolf submarine is the fastest, quietest and most armed than perhaps any other strike submarine in the world.

- he writes.

The submarine's arrival at the Norwegian port of Tromsø was announced by the US Navy command, although traditionally it does not. In the author's opinion, if the American fleet nevertheless announces the movements of the Seawulf submarines, it is clearly in order to draw attention to this and give it special significance.

The transfer of the Seawolf nuclear submarine from Bangor, Washington, to the US Sixth Fleet demonstrates the global reach of the submarine fleet and its willingness to maintain a permanent and discreet presence anywhere in the world to fulfill our unique missions, while in a state of highest alert

- said the commander of the US submarine forces Vice Admiral Daryl Coadle.

"Thus, the US Navy confirms its readiness to conduct a submarine war with Russia, the ability to break and overcome the underwater bastions created by the Russians with the help of their submarines," the author sums up.
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  1. Eldorado
    Eldorado 20 October 2020 13: 58
    0
    Is the American missile defense system ready to repel an ICBM strike with nuclear warheads?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 20 October 2020 14: 05
      +4
      Quote: El Dorado
      Is the American missile defense system ready to repel an ICBM strike with nuclear warheads?

      They count on the complete destruction of our nuclear weapons. The location of the silos is known, there are not many submarines, they expect to track them, a simultaneous strike per hour X. Even if something passes, the damage will be minimal. This strategy has been known for a long time; the only question is how are our people prepared for it and what surprises are up their sleeves.
      1. Machito
        Machito 20 October 2020 14: 25
        -1
        And the surprises are the same Yellowstone, the explosion of a volcano in the Canaries, with the collapse of tens of cubic meters into the water and the subsequent tsunami on the East Coast, a supervolcano in Kamchatka, Sakharov's underwater explosions. In general, there is something to answer with a minimum consumption of US missiles, a strike can be delivered with unacceptable losses for them. We need to write about it more often, shoot cartoons and films. This will cool their hot heads. Although unlikely.
      2. venik
        venik 20 October 2020 14: 40
        +1
        Quote: Svarog
        This strategy has been known for a long time; the only question is how are our people prepared for it and what surprises are up their sleeves.

        ========
        One of them is well known: mobile soil complexes: the second, not yet implemented - BZHRK .... The rest are also known (some), fortunately - far from ALL "surprises" !!! But - THERE IS! hi
        1. faiver
          faiver 20 October 2020 15: 46
          -1
          not yet implemented - BZHRK
          - how will you hide?
          1. venik
            venik 20 October 2020 16: 05
            +2
            Quote: faiver
            not yet implemented - BZHRK
            - how will you hide?

            =======
            Why hide? If it is almost impossible to "target" it! He's constantly on the move!
            1. Wilderness
              Wilderness 20 October 2020 22: 35
              +1
              Yeah, on the roads of the "joint-stock company" Russian Railways, under the gun of a bunch of private surveillance cameras, car DVRs are not waiting. crossings, almost to the root of the destroyed VOKhR structure. With the notification of the mass of local chiefs, because explosive substances, nuclear devices, secret documents and just a military unit are being transported ... Yes, it is only for the average person that all the cars are the same, a specialist will decipher it just at once. In the USSR it could work, but now, alas, not.
      3. yehat2
        yehat2 20 October 2020 15: 07
        +4
        Yes, the United States is trying to prepare for the most detailed strike against our missilemen.
        Markers installed on our installations and other tricks are used.
        Now the USA estimates the scale of readiness as 70-75%.
        In addition, they have 3 more lines of defense - the forces of the global ground missile defense system, the satellite constellation and, in fact, the defense system of the United States itself.
        Now they assess our retaliatory strike as 4-7% of the face value and this does not suit them (unacceptable damage). But when there will be 1%, the question will rise squarely.
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 20 October 2020 15: 25
          +1
          Quote: yehat2
          Now they assess our retaliatory strike as 4-7% of the face value and this does not suit them (unacceptable damage). But when there will be 1%, the question will rise squarely.

          And the hypersonic Yu71, the ones they called the Vanguard, are they also ready to catch! And how ready are they to catch and intercept 2M39 Poseidon? Or do they think that when the sky appears like a sheepskin, we will regret someone? And let them not forget that there will be a blow to the "decision-making centers" and to the Swiss bungalows too!
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 20 October 2020 16: 37
          +3
          Quote: yehat2
          Now they assess our retaliatory strike as 4-7% of the face value and this does not suit them (unacceptable damage). But when there will be 1%, the question will rise squarely.

          I didn’t read how many percent of the face value they estimate our retaliation, unfortunately. But I read how they estimate the possible damage. Population, industrial potential, infrastructure - according to their estimates, their losses will be 15 to 20 percent. They consider this unacceptable and therefore are not yet ready to fight with Russia. Now, if 12% - then please ...

          Here are interest lovers ... fool
          In XNUMX, near Moscow, I think there were those who did not even know the word "percent". My grandfather fought with seven grades of education, and my great-grandfather with four. And Leningrad together with the whole country defended, and did not flinch on the Kursk Bulge, and the Dnieper, the Vistula, and the Oder were forced. No interest.
          1. The eye of the crying
            The eye of the crying 21 October 2020 19: 12
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            Quote: Zoldat_A
            they estimate that their losses will be 15 to 20 percent. They consider this unacceptable and therefore are not ready to fight with Russia yet. Now, if 12% - then please ...


            How do you know all these numbers? smile Especially about 12% acceptable losses?
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 21 October 2020 21: 04
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              Quote: Eye of the Crying
              How do you know all these numbers? Especially about 12% acceptable losses?

              To me, too, the secret of Punchinelle ... Dig it yourself - Pentagon theorists consider losses over 13% unacceptable. Why 13 and not 12 or 15 is a mystery to me. But, nevertheless, a few years ago a report on the inadmissibility of a global war with the Russian Federation was published.
              1. The eye of the crying
                The eye of the crying 21 October 2020 21: 58
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                Quote: Zoldat_A
                Dig for yourself - Pentagon theorists consider losses over 13% unacceptable.


                Well, that is, you do not have a link to the document. Surprise.
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 21 October 2020 22: 23
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                  Quote: Eye of the Crying
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  Dig for yourself - Pentagon theorists consider losses over 13% unacceptable.

                  Well, that is, you do not have a link to the document. Surprise.

                  Well, excuse me, I have kept the information in memory for years, but there are no links to the document especially for you.
                  If it had happened yesterday or the day before yesterday, I would have found it in the computer. 3-5 years ago - I have already changed three computers during this time.

                  Next time, I will keep links to the weather forecast and annotations for films that I download - what if someone asks ... laughing
                  1. The eye of the crying
                    The eye of the crying 21 October 2020 22: 56
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                    Quote: Zoldat_A
                    Well, excuse me, I have kept information in my memory for years


                    For some reason it seems to me that this information would have to be stored for decades. Because it refers (if it exists at all) to the days of the Cold War.
        3. PSih2097
          PSih2097 20 October 2020 20: 29
          +1
          Quote: yehat2
          global ground missile defense forces

          there is no one, there is an object, but nothing more ...
      4. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 20 October 2020 15: 23
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        Quote: Svarog
        The location of the silos is known, there are not many submarines

        Do you think PGRK can be ignored? And what about strategic aviation?
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 20 October 2020 20: 35
          +1
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Do you think PGRK can be ignored? And what about strategic aviation?

          on the PGRK routes are known, about air strategists - do you know how long a combat flight is being prepared from X55 / X101 in time ???
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 20 October 2020 21: 07
            0
            Quote: PSih2097
            Do you know how long a combat flight is being prepared from X55 / X101 in time ???

            Why is it then kept, strategic aviation? Out of habit?
            Why, then, all these fluttering, if the Americans know how many boats, and the routes of the PGRK, and how long it takes to prepare the departure of the aircraft?
            Then it would be more expedient to collect all the nuclear charges in one place, bury them deeper, and, if anything, to jerk them right there.
            Humanity will still have a skiff. Without any boats, missiles and planes.
            1. PSih2097
              PSih2097 22 October 2020 20: 58
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              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Why is it then kept, strategic aviation? Out of habit?

              even if there is a GRAU warehouse nearby, you will only kill half a day to settle all the formalities ...
              But they keep it for that ... And the devil only knows ... Our aviation strategies no longer fly with the X55 / X101, replacing them with convection options.
      5. Volder
        Volder 21 October 2020 11: 40
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        Quote: Svarog
        the only question is how our people are prepared for it and what surprises are up our sleeves ...
        They know about the surprise in the form of the "Dead Hand" (the "Perimeter" system). This is enough not to press the red button.
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 22 October 2020 21: 01
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          Quote: Volder
          They know about the surprise in the form of the "Dead Hand" (the "Perimeter" system). This is enough not to press the red button.

          You know, there is such a surprise, no one from ordinary people knows it, and who knows, he is silent - whether he is on duty or he was dismantled "for spare parts" as BZHRK and Sharks ...
          1. Volder
            Volder 23 October 2020 13: 44
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            Quote: PSih2097
            You know, there is such a surprise, no one from ordinary people knows it, and who knows, he is silent - whether he is on duty or he was dismantled "for spare parts" as BZHRK and Sharks ...
            Officials say that the Perimeter system has not only survived, but has also been modernized and improved. For example, the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces, General Sergei Karakaev, stated that the system is being used in a significantly updated form. Do not want - do not believe it, it's your business. As for BZHRK and "Sharks", officials DO NOT hide the situation with them.
  2. WingCat
    WingCat 20 October 2020 14: 04
    +1
    Somehow too pretentious. Seawulf, as far as I remember, only 3 pieces. built, good boat, but similar in parameters to 885m Ash. Yes, and of course it will bring problems near our shores, but solvable
    1. Tsoy
      Tsoy 20 October 2020 14: 08
      +4
      as long as I remember only 3 pieces. built, a good boat, but similar in parameters to the 885m Ash tree. Yes, and of course it will bring problems near our shores, but solvable


      And how many ash trees?
      1. Voyager
        Voyager 21 October 2020 14: 51
        -1
        One 885 in service, two 885M in trials.
    2. lucul
      lucul 20 October 2020 14: 09
      -1
      Somehow too pretentious. Seawulf, as far as I remember, only 3 pieces. built, good boat, but similar in parameters to 885m Ash. Yes, and of course it will bring problems near our shores, but solvable

      Yes, they calm themselves down)))
    3. Alex777
      Alex777 20 October 2020 14: 11
      -7
      When we build a normal submarine with LIAB, this Seawulf will go back.
      And yes - 3 pcs. it's not so much that we should be very sad.
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 October 2020 14: 15
      +5
      Quote: WingCat
      Seawulf, as far as I remember, only 3 pieces. built, good boat

      The lobbyist brand is being promoted. The aircraft carrier lobby is failing, the Zumwalt lobby is failing, and the Seawulf lobby seems to have taken the lead.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 20 October 2020 15: 05
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        Seawolf's lobby seems to have taken the lead.

        This lobby has been retired for a long time. Look when they were built:
        "Seawolf" (from English - "Sea Wolf") - a series of multipurpose nuclear submarines of the fourth generation of the US Navy, built at the shipyards of General Dynamics Electric Boat Corporation in 1989 — 1998

        The youngest is 20 years old. The first is 30 years old.
        And they were designed 35-40 years ago. wink
        Therefore, I wrote about the advantage of the new submarines.
        But the people didn't like it. request
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 20 October 2020 16: 35
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          Quote: Alex777
          This lobby has been retired for a long time. Look when they were built:

          To put it simply, lobbying for the construction of submarines. What they are is their business. But the nuclear submarine project is being pushed forward, which is more technological than the existing boats.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 20 October 2020 17: 26
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            Let's see what they do. On boats, the chief steel expert was recently exposed.
            Defective steel was approved as of high quality.
            And this is just the beginning. bully
    5. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov 20 October 2020 20: 25
      -1
      Quote: WingCat
      Somehow too pretentious. Seawulf, as far as I remember, only 3 pieces. built, good boat, but similar in parameters to 885m Ash. Yes, and of course it will bring problems near our shores, but solvable

      And in general, the news is similar to the ordered complacency to something. For the elections?
  3. fn34440
    fn34440 20 October 2020 14: 10
    -3
    Norway's underground base for NATO submarines Olavsvern and the border of the Russian Federation are 350 km away. This base can become the starting point for operations in the Barents Sea against Russian submarines.
    Everything will depend on who will deliver the preemptive strike first. In which case.
    Our General Staff should think that such boats are not surrounding Russia just like that.
    1. Xscorpion
      Xscorpion 20 October 2020 16: 54
      +1
      This base has been de facto owned by Gazprom since 15 years. The fact that Norway allowed the Americans to use it does not mean anything, they will have to buy it out first, unless of course they sell it. For 5 years that it is our property, I am sure that our underwater the special forces crawled her up and down.
  4. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 20 October 2020 14: 11
    +4
    "Thus, the US Navy confirms its readiness to conduct a submarine war with Russia, the ability to break and overcome the underwater bastions created by the Russians with the help of their submarines."
    Interesting logic of stupid people (other words are deleted by the administration). If a war starts, then not an underwater war, but the last war on Earth, after it there will be no wars with either spears or stone axes.
  5. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 20 October 2020 14: 14
    +1
    So I don’t understand whether to go to the store for distillate or is it too early? what
  6. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 20 October 2020 14: 17
    +1
    Seawulf will have something to do when our 885M is finished. Kazan is already on its way. And then we'll see, "is the devil as scary as his little ones"!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 October 2020 16: 41
      -1
      Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
      Seawulf will have something to do when our 885M is finished. Kazan is already on its way.

      In this you are right, Russia has something to answer. One thing is clear that the states are doing everything possible to take a leading position in the Arctic, and for this they are beginning to build new icebreakers and nuclear submarines. So you won't have to yawn here, the enemy has begun preparations.
  7. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 20 October 2020 14: 18
    -5
    The US naval forces are ready for a submarine war with Russia, the world's best and secret multipurpose nuclear submarine "Seawolf" (USS Seawolf) is stationed in the waters of the North Atlantic.
    belay What to say, fool fool fool Hundreds of lards have invested in the Navy and all without a push. They spat a bullet from the city .... and are already ready for war. This is not a kindergarten, but ward number ....... any.
  8. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 20 October 2020 14: 22
    -2
    The submarine Seawolf is the fastest, quietest and most armed than surely, other attack submarines in the world
    fool knows nothing, but tryndit ..
  9. askort154
    askort154 20 October 2020 14: 28
    +1
    The submarine Seawolf is the fastest, quietest and most armed than maybe, other strike submarines in the world
    (US Submarine Force Commander, Vice Admiral Daryl Coadle)

    Word, maybe, says a lot.
  10. Ros 56
    Ros 56 20 October 2020 14: 35
    +1
    Ponty pounding, it's not under the ice to walk.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 21 October 2020 01: 05
      +2
      Your truth. They couldn't even count our forces. The author writes that
      As David Ex points out ... - Russia ... in 2019 demonstrated the power of its submarines to the whole world, bringing them to the Norwegian and Barents seas right away eight submarines, including six nuclear
      In fact, there were 10 units: 8 - nuclear-powered (!) And 2 diesel. At the same time, 26.10.2019/945/XNUMX. a deep-sea test of the weapon was announced by our XNUMXA units. Pskov and N.Novgorod went into the area, plunged and ... we did not see or hear them anymore. Therefore, the author pretended that they did not exist at all ...
      It’s simple and you don’t need to strain, explaining to the public where the titanium boats with an operating depth of 480m and strategic cruise missiles on board have gone.
      IMHO.
  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 October 2020 14: 39
    +2
    One is on duty, one is getting ready, one is on the PPR. There are only 3. Victory? Or are they begging for new appropriations? Aircraft carriers have somehow ceased to be relevant? By the way, not all aircraft carriers are in the sea. In my opinion, no more than 7 out of 11 ... Oh, guilty, no more than 6 ...
    1. faiver
      faiver 20 October 2020 15: 49
      -2
      One is on duty, one is getting ready, one is on the checkpoint. There are only 3. Victory?
      - do we have somewhere more?
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 20 October 2020 16: 00
        +2
        Quote: faiver
        - do we have somewhere more?

        Where are we? Discussing the Terrible Sivulf fleet, I think. You have to understand that one submarine on alert has fenced our entire northern submarine?
        1. faiver
          faiver 20 October 2020 16: 04
          -1
          You have to understand that one submarine on combat duty has fenced our entire northern submarine?
          - and that our sworn friends cut the rest of the submarine fleet on needles?
  12. Antokha
    Antokha 20 October 2020 14: 55
    +2
    The boat is old, early 2000s. Yes, good, but we also have good ones. If they say so pathetically that "here she came to you," then they are not going to fight. Ours will not be afraid of this in the least, but on the contrary, will begin to hunt for her and collect information, as soon as she came here herself.
  13. AshPoseidon
    AshPoseidon 20 October 2020 15: 14
    +1
    Well, with strikes against surface ships and high-precision strikes against coastal targets, Ash Proketa 885M will cope with this task better, since it can strike at a greater distance than the American boat Sea Wolf. But in the submerged position, the forces of both boats are comparable, each has a spherical hydroacoustic station, torpedoes with a range of 50 km, both boats have false targets and a system for combating enemy radio intelligence and electronic countermeasures. In a one-on-one underwater battle, everything will depend on team coordination and military luck.
    Sun Tzu said, “If you know your opponent and know yourself, fight at least a hundred times, there will be no danger if you know yourself, but you don’t know him, once you will win, another time you will lose if you don’t know yourself or him, every time when you fight, you will be defeated. "
  14. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 20 October 2020 15: 16
    +5
    Ukrainians have been fighting with Russia for six years already, they even dug the Black Sea for this, and then there is some kind of USA.
  15. yehat2
    yehat2 20 October 2020 15: 28
    -2
    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    And the hypersonic Yu71, the ones that they called the Vanguard, are also ready to catch!

    they are still statistically negligible, like some of our missiles on submarines.
    the same report for some date - about 5 years ago.
  16. ZEMCH
    ZEMCH 20 October 2020 16: 12
    +1
    Russia has spent many decades training its submarine forces and in 2019 demonstrated the power of its submarines to the whole world by launching eight submarines, including six nuclear-powered ones, into the Norwegian and Barents Seas. The Russians, the author writes, practiced actions to protect areas of the ocean, from which Russian ballistic missile submarines would launch their intercontinental missiles, "destroying civilization."

    According to the states, our missiles are "destroying civilization," and theirs are "bringing democracy"! They are ready for war with our submarines, and in addition to submarines, there are still many carriers of nuclear weapons.
    Any war between our countries will lead to irreparable damage on both sides!
  17. Baian
    Baian 20 October 2020 17: 09
    0
    American press: the United States is ready for a submarine war with Russia

    We have not forgotten the Kursk nuclear submarine in Russia ..
  18. Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 20 October 2020 18: 00
    -1
    the insidiousness of the Americans is that they themselves develop the submarine fleet, but throw through their agents ideas for the construction of super destroyer aircraft carriers in the Russian Federation, to the detriment of the much needed submarines, PLO, PMO, air defense and especially the Strategic Missile Forces
    1. t-12
      t-12 20 October 2020 18: 22
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      for the construction of aircraft carriers of super destroyers in the Russian Federation

      And where to base them? All ports of the Russian Federation are closed by straits controlled by a potential enemy. Well, except for Arkhangelsk, but from there the aircraft carrier can operate only in the Arctic, and then the same narrow straits.
      1. Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 20 October 2020 23: 24
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        they have neither a base nor the main task, which is why a gang of American henchmen wants to cut the budget for unnecessary aircraft carriers and other surface monsters, two UDCs have already laid 20000 tons each, and there is no money for submarines ... even for repairs
  19. Ax Matt
    Ax Matt 21 October 2020 01: 14
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    How can they say (these "severe sea wolves") that, in the words of the "Matrix" character, they seem to wipe themselves with a silk handkerchief ... And the result will be the same: this, soiled shit ... and it turns out.
  20. Volder
    Volder 21 October 2020 11: 36
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    Russian SSBNs are capable of striking continental America from the waters of the Norwegian and Barents Seas. The US East Coast is no longer safe.
    For the information of this David Ax, Russian strategic submarines can strike not only from these seas, and not only along the east coast of the United States. Our missile carriers can fire directly from the pier on the Kola Peninsula, without going out to sea. But even in this case, the flight range of the ICBM will be enough to cover the entire territory of America. From Gadzhievo to San Francisco - 8000 km in a straight line.