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State tests are over: armored car K4386 "Typhoon-Airborne" went to the troops

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State tests are over: armored car K4386 "Typhoon-Airborne" went to the troops

State tests of the new landing armored vehicle Typhoon-VDV K4386 for the Airborne Forces have been completed, the vehicle is already being delivered to the Airborne Forces. Aleksandr Matveev, a representative of the directorate of Remdizel JSC, spoke about this in an interview with Mil.Press Voennoye.


According to Matveyev, the state tests of the Typhoon-VDV were carried out by the Ministry of Defense in harsh conditions and were successfully completed. The military and testers were satisfied with the car. As part of the tests, the armored car made two expeditions to Elbrus, and also passed all possible tests at special testing grounds.

I can't say about the technical shortcomings that were revealed there, but the chief designer was pleased with the last expedition

- emphasized Matveev.

As previously reported, prototypes of the Typhoon K4386 armored car successfully passed factory and military tests back in 2019, and the identified shortcomings were corrected as a result. State tests began in late spring this year.

The armored vehicle "Typhoon-VDV" K4386 is made according to the "carrying armored hull" scheme. Wheel arrangement 4X4, ceramic armor, provides protection according to the fifth class. Also, the armored car is capable of withstanding an explosion of up to 6 kg in TNT under the wheel, and 4 kg under the bottom. A remotely controlled weapon station with a 30-mm cannon is installed on the Typhoon-VDV as a weapon. It is also possible to install other weapons, depending on the tasks performed.

The machine is capable of parachuting from VTA aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces.

According to published information, the weight of the car is 13,5 tons. Diesel engine "KamAZ" 350 hp The speed is up to 100 kilometers per hour. The armored car is capable of climbing steep slopes up to 30 degrees, and water obstacles up to 1,9 meters deep. In store down the highway - 1200 kilometers.
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  1. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 20 October 2020 12: 47
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    Also, the armored car is capable of withstanding an explosion of up to 6 kg in TNT under the wheel, and 4 kg under the bottom.

    This is what is vital in modern realities. Will save many, many lives.
    1. figwam
      figwam 20 October 2020 13: 06
      +7
      Quote: OgnennyiKotik
      This is what is vital in modern realities. Will save many, many lives.

      Yes, also a beautiful car, we will probably see it soon in Syria.
      1. senima56
        senima56 20 October 2020 16: 01
        +8
        Most likely, he has already visited Syria! "As previously reported, prototypes of the Typhoon K4386 armored car successfully passed factory and military tests back in 2019, and the identified shortcomings were corrected as a result."
    2. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 20 October 2020 13: 10
      +3
      I think all the time, is it not long in our country that state tests are being carried out? That sometimes, when equipment begins to enter the troops, many years pass. I remember in the mid-2000s, I watched the Shock Force program, they talked about the BMP-3, BMD-4 and the Mi-28NM (above the hub radar), so it was 2007. Now, it's only now going to the troops. How justified is this, what do you think?
      prototypes of the Typhoon K4386 armored car successfully passed factory and military tests back in 2019, and the identified shortcomings were corrected as a result. State tests began in late spring this year.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 20 October 2020 13: 12
        +2
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        I think all the time, is it not long in our country that state tests are being carried out?

        The question is not in the state. trials, and in the absence of money to buy. If you allocate money at the right time and in the right amounts, all processes occur quickly.
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 20 October 2020 13: 15
          +5
          Quote: OgnennyiKotik
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          I think all the time, is it not long in our country that state tests are being carried out?

          The question is not in the state. trials, and in the absence of money to buy. If you allocate money at the right time and in the right amounts, all processes occur quickly.

          I agree. But we always mask this with the terminology of state tests. Listen to interviews with the military and officials 5-15 years ago, there is such optimism that they say that this technique is about to go to the troops. This especially affected the Su-57 in the period 2014-2016.
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 20 October 2020 13: 18
            +2
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            This especially affected the Su-57 in the period 2014-2016.

            This affected all the technology of that period. Affected by the sanctions of 2014. There were many components of foreign production, now they are being reworked. But this is again a question of money, well, a lot of money. It's one thing to buy a finished product, it's another to create an industry.
            1. Nevsky_ZU
              Nevsky_ZU 20 October 2020 13: 28
              +4
              Quote: OgnennyiKotik
              Quote: Nevsky_ZU
              This especially affected the Su-57 in the period 2014-2016.

              This affected all the technology of that period. Affected by the sanctions of 2014. There were many components of foreign production, now they are being reworked. But this is again a question of money, well, a lot of money. It's one thing to buy a finished product, it's another to create an industry.

              If it concerns the civilian sphere, as an example with the MS-21, I agree with you. But what did the military-industrial complex and the Ministry of Defense count on, a code of fair competition or what? laughing
              1. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik 20 October 2020 13: 29
                -7
                Quote: Nevsky_ZU
                But what did the military-industrial complex and the Ministry of Defense count on, a code of fair competition or what?

                We wanted the best, it turned out as always.
                1. Dikson
                  Dikson 20 October 2020 13: 44
                  0
                  Here's another piece of news about our MO ... and about how they wanted and what happened .. - The Ministry of Defense demands to recover 2.1 billion rubles from ISS JSC (this is the developer and manufacturer of GLONASS satellites) .. A week earlier, the MO filed another lawsuit against this space company - 568 million .. In September there was another lawsuit against satellite builders .. for 763 million rubles .. for a forfeit ... they sued only ... 10..million))) Here is import substitution and the result of sanctions in all its glory .. But everything is all right in Roscosmos, yes ..
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              1. Konnick
                Konnick 20 October 2020 14: 51
                -4
                It seems that kamazists, authors and their fans are minus you. An ultra-expensive armored car with imported components, it is not clear what does the name of the Airborne Forces have to do with it. Incomprehensible combat purpose and helpless against aircraft and UAVs, based on the latest trends and military "fashion". Just an anti-guerrilla car, chase terrorist fighters across the desert.
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 20 October 2020 14: 07
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          Quote: OgnennyiKotik
          The question is not in the state. trials, and in the absence of money to buy. If you allocate money at the right time and in the right amounts, all processes occur quickly.

          The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is a private, not state-owned bank. And no president can give him any decree. At the same time, the Central Bank is endowed with the functions of a state structure that determines financial policy in the country. And who can influence the Central Bank and its leadership? The open source answer is the IMF. And the IMF is whose instrument of influence?
      2. ZEMCH
        ZEMCH 20 October 2020 15: 55
        +1
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        I think all the time, is it not long in our country that state tests are being carried out? That sometimes, when equipment begins to enter the troops, many years pass. I remember in the mid-2000s, I watched the Shock Force program, they talked about the BMP-3, BMD-4 and the Mi-28NM (above the hub radar), so it was 2007. Now, it's only now going to the troops. How justified is this, what do you think?
        prototypes of the Typhoon K4386 armored car successfully passed factory and military tests back in 2019, and the identified shortcomings were corrected as a result. State tests began in late spring this year.

        The industry spends years on elimination of some shortcomings, believe me, more than one commission passed. While tests are underway within the framework of the current TK, it turns out that it is time to modernize due to the changes announced by the customer)))
      3. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 20 October 2020 16: 37
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        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        I remember in the mid-2000s, I watched the Shock Force program, they talked about BMP-3, BMD-4 and Mi-28NM (above the hub radar), so it was 2007. Now, it's only now going to the troops. How justified is this, what do you think?

        Do you remember how long you talked about the ordinary Mi-28 and Ka-52. And they brought them to mind only by 2016. Moreover, the last problems were solved after the vehicles were in combat units.
        And they weren't like that "the third light in the right row should be green, not red", but a stalling engine when starting the NAR (at low speed or from hovering) and problems with the ATGM guidance. That is, the first years of combat vehicles could work without problems only with a cannon.
      4. g1v2
        g1v2 20 October 2020 20: 07
        +5
        By that time, the BMP3 had already been adopted and delivered to the UAE. At that time we had mountains of equipment such as bmp1 and 2 from the Soviet army, we did not know what to do with these mountains. The army became much smaller, there was not enough money or opportunities to service the equipment. The actual combat readiness of the overwhelming majority of units, especially the cropped ones, was extremely low. I remember in 2002, when we were raised on alert and sent to the exercise, half of the equipment could not participate, and some were stuck along the way. We dragged the armored personnel carriers out. request
        There was no question of purchasing new armored vehicles. The questions were what to do with what is, how to put it in order, and most importantly - FOR WHAT MONEY. Now everyone is simply spoiled by the fact that Russia has a good financial position and a lot of money. But at one time the whole country was waiting with fear for 2003, when it was necessary to pay as many as $ 3 billion in debts and were afraid of a new default like '98. PM in those conditions was not up to the purchase of new armored vehicles. request
        Plus bmd4 of that time is not the bmd4m that goes to the troops now. Those bmd4s did not go into production, plus the Volgograd tractor went bankrupt then. Surely a video of its ruins was seen on the internet. Modern bmd4m are unified with bmp3 and are in fact produced on the new Volgograd tractor, built on the site of the old giant.
        About the current situation. Now, in fact, those projects are being licked, which should be built in series for years. Plus, building an experimental batch is one thing, but deploying a serial production is quite another. In an ordinary car, there are 30 thousand parts. There are no less of them in military equipment. If you produce everything at home, then deploying a serial production of all units and parts even for one name of equipment is a very big task. And very expensive. And we are now working in all areas and all require people, money and resources. request
      5. Tavrik
        Tavrik 20 October 2020 20: 59
        0
        The main thing is not the result, the main thing is the process. I made a decision - I took responsibility. For this they can attract. Therefore, it is better to develop and test something for years.
    3. Hagen
      Hagen 20 October 2020 13: 33
      +3
      Quote: OgnennyiKotik
      Will save many, many lives.

      In local conflicts with bandit formations not equipped with equivalent weapons, in more or less populated areas with satisfactory roads. To a greater extent, the car is suitable for the National Guard. The Airborne Forces, nevertheless, are designed for combat operations with an external enemy in the form of state armed forces. There, at least, you need armor from 30x173 in the forehead and 12,7x99 from other angles. This is either the BTR-90 class or the BMP-3. But with a desire to throw everything landing with a parachute, it is difficult to do. In any case, it must be borne in mind that modern SLA allow light small-caliber artillery mounted on motorized infantry vehicles to hit targets much more accurately than during the development of concepts for the use of the Airborne Forces and, accordingly, the protective properties of its armored vehicles. When you start thinking about who our children will have to fight against in these cars, the euphoria quickly passes and gives way to disappointment.
    4. vVvAD
      vVvAD 20 October 2020 16: 32
      -1
      Quote: OgnennyiKotik
      Also, the armored car is capable of withstanding an explosion of up to 6 kg in TNT under the wheel, and 4 kg under the bottom.

      This is what is vital in modern realities. Will save many, many lives.

      This is certainly important, but it is also present on other Typhoon modifications. Here's what is key for the Airborne Forces:
      The machine is capable of parachuting from VTA aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces.

      Well, 30mm AP is only a plus.
  2. ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
    ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 20 October 2020 12: 57
    +2
    Well, with God, great news, a lot of good equipment for the Airborne Forces.
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  3. moreman78
    moreman78 20 October 2020 13: 02
    +1
    In which units he was interestingly attached - scouts or what? Or will they re-equip the airborne assault battalions in the brigades?
  4. Asad
    Asad 20 October 2020 13: 04
    0
    KamAZ engine? I went to Google. Cumins Chinese-American, damn it, it's time to create your own engine! Whose gearbox?
  5. Victorio
    Victorio 20 October 2020 13: 13
    +5
    protection from above is already becoming relevant
  6. Konnick
    Konnick 20 October 2020 13: 18
    0
    It is interesting to see how the 30mm cannon shoots from this jeep, or rather how it hits, the swing must be frantic. And why the cost of such KAMAZ pepelats is never announced. Why is BMD bad? More expensive? The BMD floats, and this armored car is only for roads with a fairly good surface, the mass is about the same as that of the BMD. It looks like they are getting caught up again for Syria. And what is the purpose of the military equipment as the range of the aircraft?
    1. Victorio
      Victorio 20 October 2020 13: 26
      +2
      Quote: Konnick
      It is interesting to see how the 30mm cannon shoots from this jeep, or rather how it hits, the swing must be frantic. And why the cost of such KAMAZ pepelats is never announced. Why is BMD bad? More expensive? The BMD floats, and this armored car is only for roads with a fairly good surface, the mass is about the same as that of the BMD. It looks like they are getting caught up again for Syria. And what is the purpose of the military equipment as the range of the aircraft?

      ===
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InESEdJUt_8 тут немного видно, при фронтальной нормально
      1. Konnick
        Konnick 20 October 2020 13: 34
        -1
        Thanks for the link. Yes, with the frontal slightly worse than the BMP, at the beginning of the video. No fire was shown on the flanks.
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 20 October 2020 13: 37
          0
          Quote: Konnick
          Thanks for the link. Yes, with the frontal slightly worse than the BMP, at the beginning of the video. No fire was shown on the flanks.

          ===
          moreover, there was information about the floating version of the typhoon
    2. Dzungar
      Dzungar 20 October 2020 13: 27
      +1
      Do you observe this "crazy swing" at the BMP-2 ...? There is the same mass ...
      1. Konnick
        Konnick 20 October 2020 13: 35
        -2
        8 wheels are not 4, and much lower is the cannon.
        1. Dzungar
          Dzungar 20 October 2020 14: 47
          0
          What are the 8 wheels of the BMP-2 .. ??? I'm talking about the mass, not the wheels
          1. Konnick
            Konnick 20 October 2020 15: 04
            -1
            Sorry, sealed, two tracks on 12 rollers. And it is much more stable.
      2. Konnick
        Konnick 20 October 2020 13: 49
        -1
        I meant BMD4, 13, 5 tons. But there is a 500 hp engine.
    3. Dzungar
      Dzungar 20 October 2020 13: 31
      0
      weight is about the same as that of BMD.
      what kind of BMD are you talking about ....? BMD-2 weighs 7,2 tons .... For wheeled vehicles, the resource and power reserve are always an order of magnitude higher
  7. Dikson
    Dikson 20 October 2020 13: 34
    -5
    An ordinary UAZ overcomes 45 degrees .. and here - a combat vehicle for the landing .. and 30 ..
    1. Victorio
      Victorio 20 October 2020 13: 41
      0
      Quote: Dikson
      An ordinary UAZ overcomes 45 degrees .. and here - a combat vehicle for the landing .. and 30 ..

      ===
      weight affects, and size too
    2. Konnick
      Konnick 20 October 2020 13: 45
      0
      The car is more like a police, not a combat one. Or for convoy escort, but BMD is still preferable in battle. By the way, are these the fuel tanks in front of the rear wheels in the photo?
      1. Victorio
        Victorio 20 October 2020 13: 52
        0
        one on each side, here it is interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85yICmFmk98&feature=emb_title at 17 minutes
  8. Evil 55
    Evil 55 20 October 2020 13: 48
    -2
    GSh-23 would be more optimal.
    1. Ded_Mazay
      Ded_Mazay 20 October 2020 14: 04
      +1
      GSh-23 - double-barreled automatic AVIATION gun.
      How is the aviation accident related to ground technology? Moreover, a double-barreled and low-power 23mm caliber ...
      1. Evil 55
        Evil 55 21 October 2020 15: 31
        0
        Your brain activity is low .... and one GSh-23 unit, with its rate of fire and the presence of SIX types of ammunition, could not only damage any "armor" by destroying sights, but also work as a jammer ... and much more what hidden abilities she would have been revealed.
        1. Ded_Mazay
          Ded_Mazay 21 October 2020 17: 02
          0
          And you give me after this here
          Quote: Evil 55
          could not only damage any "armor" by destroying sighting devices, but also work as a jammer ..
          will you tell something about brain activity?
          Amusingly laughing .
          I even specially highlighted that the gun aviation... But apparently, you do not see the differences between aviation and ground-based AP.
    2. Konnick
      Konnick 20 October 2020 14: 06
      -1
      The installation of the AGS would be more optimal, since the 2A72 cannon is insufficiently effective against air targets due to its low rate of fire, and an automatic grenade launcher is better for bashibuzuks.
  9. fn34440
    fn34440 20 October 2020 14: 16
    0
    Is this a chopping off of the military budget, instead of the development of the UAV strike forces?
    Shaw they study there in academies?
    As the experience of Israel and Turkey has shown, all kinds of models of armored vehicles, both group and single, are good food for shock drones, even with a low manufacturing cost and a low combat load.
    I agree with Nikolay: "The vehicle is more a police vehicle than a combat vehicle. Or for escorting convoys, but BMD is still preferable in battle ...."
    And then, if the fight is close. A toy from auto engineers from defense.
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 20 October 2020 14: 32
      -2
      The 30mm cannon is good for fighting lightly armored vehicles, but against the infantry it is too wasteful - the Americans in Iraq used up 4 times more AGS grenades than small arms ammunition. And auto engineers from defense, such an impression, are great specialists in World of Tanks.
  10. Ros 56
    Ros 56 20 October 2020 14: 27
    +1
    Well, God forbid. Apparently they will soon be needed.
  11. garri-lin
    garri-lin 20 October 2020 14: 35
    0
    Very very bad. The army should be armed with military equipment and not armored ersatz. 4 wheels are not enough for military equipment. Even with flat tires. The armor is good. The armament is good. Here are just a compromise chassis and shape. And it is not clear how this will affect exploitation. It is incomprehensible with the hydropneumatic transmission. Then it was presented as a counter. Then they refused it because of the huge price. And this despite the fact that the stabilizer of the gun worked in tandem with it. A lot of fog.
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 20 October 2020 18: 49
      0
      Rather not a transmission, but a hydropneumatic suspension with a suspension lock when firing. Therefore, this Typhoon does not shake. You can shoot on the move, but it is impossible to hit. This suspension is imported, I suppose, is expensive and capricious like all suspensions of this type.
      1. garri-lin
        garri-lin 20 October 2020 19: 41
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        Suspension, of course. Tupanul a little. The suspension is not fixed when firing. On the contrary, when firing on the move, it works out the unevenness of the road, thereby unloading the stabilizers of the gun.
  12. dgonni
    dgonni 20 October 2020 15: 08
    +1
    Not a bad unit. However, with passability on soft soils, he will definitely have problems. For it weighs like an 80th beter, and there are only four wheels. Although it is normal for roads and rocky soils. Only not around the road, but on the slabs will sit on the belly.
  13. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 20 October 2020 15: 14
    0
    A good car, mobility is necessary for the Airborne Forces. Good luck to Typhoon
  14. faiver
    faiver 20 October 2020 15: 16
    +2
    I do not understand such an abundance of various types of small-scale armored vehicles, it is expensive and not practical, only in terms of cutting the budget
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 20 October 2020 15: 36
      0
      The Wehrmacht faced the problem of unification, which recruited vehicles from all over Europe and then their logisticians solved problems with the repair and supply of spare parts for motley equipment. For patrol cars, and I think the Typhoon is just such a machine, the KAMAZ chassis would be enough - and the speed, and cross-country ability, and carrying capacity ... But mine protection does not always help. It is unlikely that this Typhoon will be dropped by parachute. In a word, we've seen enough of "Mad Max".
  15. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 20 October 2020 15: 21
    +2
    Great car smile :
  16. Tavrik
    Tavrik 20 October 2020 21: 04
    +3
    So I always wonder what it means: "went to the troops"? For armament of what? How does "it" fit into the platoon-company-battalion structure? Instead of BMD? Or "next" to them? Or are there two companies in the battalion on the BMD, and one on the Typhoon? Or will they be sent to combat support units? How will driver training be organized? How many of these machines should be made for training? Hey, military science, where are you?
  17. Tavrik
    Tavrik 20 October 2020 21: 11
    0
    Quote: Konnick
    It is unlikely that this Typhoon will be dropped by parachute

    Throwing everything and everyone with a parachute is the "holy cow" of the Airborne Forces. Don't touch!
    1. Lex_is
      Lex_is 20 October 2020 21: 20
      0
      Even the PZM was dropped, so the Typhoon will definitely be dropped.
      These are the people: don't feed them bread, let me throw something off with a parachute.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 21 October 2020 10: 45
      +2
      Quote: Tavrik
      Throwing everything and everyone with a parachute is the "holy cow" of the Airborne Forces. Don't touch!

      Already touched - the Airborne Forces received the T-72B3. smile