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The modernized Marshal Shaposhnikov is preparing to return to service

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The modernized Marshal Shaposhnikov is preparing to return to service

The former Project 1155 BOD, re-qualified as frigates Marshal Shaposhnikov, which has undergone major overhaul and modernization in the Dalzavod ship repair center, is preparing to return to service. On Monday, October 19, the ship entered the second stage of sea trials. This is reported by the Ministry of Defense.


On Monday, October 19, the frigate left Dalzavod, entering the next stage of testing. The ship was taken out of the water area of ​​the enterprise by Pacific Fleet tugs and escorted to the outer roadstead, from where "Marshal Shaposhnikov" went to the Sea of ​​Japan to sea ranges fleet.

At this stage, according to the press service of the Ministry of Defense, the operation of the power plant, steering gear, auxiliary mechanisms, communications, detection and navigation equipment will be checked on the ship. In addition, the crew and the delivery team will conduct high-speed and maneuverable tests of the frigate.


As previously reported, the former BOD of project 1155 "Marshal Shaposhnikov" in the summer of 2019 was retrained as frigate. This decision was made by the Ministry of Defense.

In the course of modernization, Marshal Shaposhnikov installed the Uran anti-ship complex with X-35 missiles, a universal launcher for Kalibr, Onyx or Zircon cruise missiles, a Bagira universal naval artillery fire control system, a ship complex electronic suppression TK-25, the bow artillery mount was replaced. More than 20% of the ship's superstructure were dismantled and re-manufactured, the hull was repaired, and other works were carried out.

As previously reported in the press service of the Pacific Fleet, the frigate will return to the fleet by the end of this year.
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  1. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 20 October 2020 09: 30
    0
    Interestingly, did the retraining somehow affect the anti-submarine capabilities?
    1. Ru_Na
      Ru_Na 20 October 2020 09: 44
      11
      No, the UKSK can also be equipped with anti-submarine missiles, the SJSC Polynom was repaired.
    2. CSKA
      CSKA 20 October 2020 09: 53
      +4
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      Interestingly, did the retraining somehow affect the anti-submarine capabilities?

      No. It is capable of firing Caliber 91P1.
      1. barin
        barin 20 October 2020 10: 36
        21
        Quote: CSKA
        He is capable of shooting Caliber 91P1

        In my opinion, because of the PLUR, anti-submarine capabilities have even increased.
        1. CSKA
          CSKA 20 October 2020 12: 22
          -7
          Quote: barin
          In my opinion, because of the PLUR, anti-submarine capabilities have even increased.

          The export range 91P1 is 50 km, and at the bell 90 km. But we do not know the 91P1 range for our army. The speed is definitely higher.
          I never understood why the BOD was made in the USSR. They are very highly specialized ships. We need a multipurpose type of Arleigh Burke and Tekonderoga.
          1. Oden280
            Oden280 20 October 2020 12: 49
            +6
            They are also not multipurpose. More focused on performing escort functions as part of the AUG. And their PLO systems are weak. Our BODs are designed to search for and destroy SSBNs as part of a KUG where each ship has its own functions.
            1. CSKA
              CSKA 20 October 2020 15: 32
              -3
              Quote: Oden280
              They are also not multipurpose. More focused on performing escort functions

              They do not need to be in the AUG in order to strike at targets on the coast or at enemy ships.
              Quote: Oden280
              And their PLO systems are weak

              I agree.
              1. Oden280
                Oden280 20 October 2020 15: 53
                -1
                They do not work on ships and on the coast without external target designation. And this is provided by satellites along the coast and Khokai at sea. And they never come out from under the umbrella of an aircraft carrier during the conduct of hostilities.
            2. ZEMCH
              ZEMCH 20 October 2020 22: 45
              +1
              Quote: Oden280
              Our BODs are designed to search for and destroy SSBNs as part of a KUG, where each ship has its own functions.

              I'll correct it a little, not a KUG, but a KUG! Ship anti-submarine strike group. As an AUG escort, but not with one pennant! If you name the composition of the KUG today, then it is probably possible in it, but we do not have a KUG)))
          2. Alex777
            Alex777 20 October 2020 19: 50
            0
            The export range 91P1 is 50 km, and at the bell 90 km.

            The question is: are there any suitable sockets left?
            And if the answer is extremely small, then PLO has increased.
            There are more than 16 cells in the UKSK.
            So everything is more or less good.
            1. CSKA
              CSKA 21 October 2020 10: 57
              0
              Quote: Alex777
              The question is: are there any suitable sockets left?

              What do you mean by “fit”? Workers?
              Quote: Alex777
              There are more than 16 cells in the UKSK.
              So everything is more or less good.

              I believe that all BODs should be upgraded to the level of a frigate.
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 21 October 2020 11: 34
                0
                What do you mean by “fit”? Workers?

                I heard out of my ear that there were no workers left for the Horns.
                All storage periods have expired. But there is no exact information.
                I believe that all BODs should be upgraded to the level of a frigate.

                They do everything slowly. What will have time - then it is necessary to modernize.
                For example, the story with "Chabanenko" is sad and incomprehensible. Why was it so delayed? hi
                1. CSKA
                  CSKA 21 October 2020 13: 23
                  0
                  Quote: Alex777
                  For example, the story with "Chabanenko" is sad and incomprehensible. Why was it so delayed?

                  Either it takes so long to renovate, but then it's not clear why it took so long. Either they are also modernizing.
  2. TELEMARK
    TELEMARK 20 October 2020 09: 31
    28

    From the working window, handsome!
    1. teron
      teron 20 October 2020 13: 01
      +8
      You have a gorgeous view from the working window!
  3. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 20 October 2020 09: 43
    +3
    Good news.
  4. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 20 October 2020 09: 45
    20
    Well, that's the Good News! True, it was modernized for five years, and it was built in three years! Yes, the possibilities of industry are not the times of the USSR!
    Seven feet under the keel! The Commander and the Crew - successfully pass the State tests, we look forward to returning to the Fleet!
    ps why is Frigate interesting? 7,5 thousand tons is a full-fledged destroyer, in my opinion.
    1. ficus2003
      ficus2003 20 October 2020 10: 10
      +3
      Probably because it is impossible to convert the BOD into a full-fledged destroyer.
    2. Hog
      Hog 20 October 2020 10: 24
      -1
      There is no money for conversion into a destroyer.
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 20 October 2020 10: 31
        +6
        The BOD itself is a subspecies of the PLO destroyer. As far as I understand, strike weapons were added, the air defense was improved and transferred to the Frigates. A problem.
        1. CSKA
          CSKA 20 October 2020 12: 23
          +1
          Quote: Hunter 2
          The air defense was improved and transferred to the Frigates. A problem.

          The air defense remains the same. Dagger.
          1. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 20 October 2020 12: 35
            -2
            Quote: CSKA

            The air defense remains the same. Dagger.

            Electronic warfare is also part of the air defense system; TK-25 was installed on Shaposhnikov.
      2. CSKA
        CSKA 20 October 2020 12: 23
        0
        Quote: Hog
        There is no money for conversion into a destroyer.

        Why do you think so?
      3. ZEMCH
        ZEMCH 20 October 2020 14: 54
        +3
        Quote: Hog
        There is no money for conversion into a destroyer.

        On Shaposhnikov, if they find somewhere to put it, they will add another Pantsir-M. For Vinogradov, there is already a more serious modernization, there is a package and a better air defense
    3. alexmach
      alexmach 20 October 2020 10: 26
      +1
      ps why is Frigate interesting? 7,5 thousand tons is a full-fledged destroyer, in my opinion.

      In terms of armament, it does not pull on a destroyer. And not universal at all.
      1. CSKA
        CSKA 20 October 2020 12: 24
        0
        Quote: alexmach
        In terms of armament, it does not pull on a destroyer. And not universal at all.

        Doesn't pull, but why isn't it universal?
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 20 October 2020 13: 17
          +1
          Doesn't pull, but why isn't it universal?

          The air defense clearly falls short of the destroyer. Although, of course, with the addition of UKSK and Uranus, the versatility of the ship increased.
          1. CSKA
            CSKA 20 October 2020 15: 35
            -1
            Quote: alexmach
            The air defense clearly falls short of the destroyer.

            In this I do not argue. Air defense there at the level of the frigate.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 20 October 2020 15: 37
              +1
              Corvette rather.
    4. PSih2097
      PSih2097 20 October 2020 16: 55
      +2
      Quote: Hunter 2
      7,5 thousand tons is a full-fledged destroyer, in my opinion.

      this is closer to a light cruiser ...
      Quote: alexmach
      ps why is Frigate interesting? 7,5 thousand tons is a full-fledged destroyer, in my opinion.

      In terms of armament, it does not pull on a destroyer. And not universal at all.

      that's why it's called BOD ...
  5. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 20 October 2020 09: 47
    +4
    Good news, but I would like more. It's a pity there are no normal drawings. But in general terms, it was possible to put another UVP there.
    1. ZEMCH
      ZEMCH 20 October 2020 22: 50
      +2
      Quote: TermNachTER
      Good news, but I would like more. It's a pity there are no normal drawings. But in general terms, it was possible to put another UVP there.

      Look at my commentary on the previous article about the modernization of Shaposhnikov, for the next order, they plan to improve the air defense for Vinogradov, and they plan to improve the anti-aircraft defense and Hurricanes near the Packet instead of TA., But so far only plans))
  6. antivirus
    antivirus 20 October 2020 09: 48
    -26 qualifying.
    and does not have a single Shoigu aircraft carrier. rightly they want to cut it by 10%. Apparently every tenth button from the tunic will be cut off (maybe from the codpiece too?)
    The United States will also reduce the FLEET AND THE ARMY BY 10% all the time behind Siluanov
    1. AlexVas44
      AlexVas44 20 October 2020 10: 05
      -11 qualifying.
      You can leave the buttons, just sell a jacket and a cap to the operetta theater successfully. laughing
  7. Bad_gr
    Bad_gr 20 October 2020 09: 55
    -1
    They used to build beautiful ships.
    And now, for the sake of stealth, there are some boxes, neither formidable, nor swift in appearance.
    1. venik
      venik 20 October 2020 17: 31
      +5
      Quote: Bad_gr
      They used to build beautiful ships.
      And now, for the sake of stealth, there are some boxes, neither formidable, nor swift in appearance.

      =========



      Well, just a uniform disgrace! Well, just No clean lines! lol laughing
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 21 October 2020 08: 53
        +1
        This one, yes. "Karakurt" with a normal design. But this?
        Can you say "formidable"?
        1. venik
          venik 21 October 2020 12: 00
          0
          Quote: Bad_gr
          This one, yes. "Karakurt" with a normal design. But this?

          =========
          Dade, this floating misunderstanding "is not devoid, nevertheless, of a certain grace:


          Move (at least with the help of a "photo-slap") the anchors higher, closer to the deck, where they are usually found in "normal ships" and ...... Look what comes out!
          HOW about this ?:



          They are also "freaks" ???
          And what remains in the "bottom line"? Only the "long-suffering", somehow tortured "Ivan Gren"? That's really "u ... lol..general ", so" u .... kindred "! A cross between a dry cargo ship and an excavator! Also with a bunch of design defects!
          So that......
          By the way - in the USSR, too, not all warships were distinguished by "graceful forms"!
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 21 October 2020 12: 31
            0
            Quote: venik
            in USSR

            [Center]
            1. Bad_gr
              Bad_gr 21 October 2020 12: 42
              0
              Some of our offers:
              1. venik
                venik 21 October 2020 19: 43
                +1
                Quote: Bad_gr
                Some of our offers:

                ========
                Thank God! This "miracle of nature" never went further than "modelki" !!!
                1. Bad_gr
                  Bad_gr 21 October 2020 19: 54
                  0
                  Quote: venik
                  Thank God! This "miracle of nature" never went further than "modelki" !!!

                  In my opinion, the design is a "predator", not a box with beveled walls.
                  Are these better?

                  1. venik
                    venik 21 October 2020 20: 11
                    0
                    Well, about:

                    What:

                    That

                    What:

                    One manifest! "4 boots a pair" (sorry - 2 pairs!) ......
                    AND THE MAIN THING: ALL 4 - UNSUCCESSFUL !!!
            2. venik
              venik 21 October 2020 15: 08
              -1
              AND THIS IS WHAT ???:

              Well, just "super" !!!
  8. Asad
    Asad 20 October 2020 10: 05
    0
    Have you changed the power plant? I am a dilettante in ships, produced in 1986, old already.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 20 October 2020 10: 27
      +2
      There is nothing to change. hike only to repair.
      1. ZEMCH
        ZEMCH 20 October 2020 13: 18
        -1
        Quote: alexmach
        There is nothing to change. hike only to repair.

        And there is no point in producing new ones, there are not so many of them left to organize production for them.
        And so KMOLZ is gradually repairing the GTE
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 20 October 2020 15: 32
          -1
          And there is no point in releasing new ones

          There is a sense, there is no technical possibility. We tried, but it didn't work out.
          1. ZEMCH
            ZEMCH 20 October 2020 15: 42
            +1
            Quote: alexmach
            There is a sense, there is no technical possibility. We tried, but it didn't work out.

            Didn't try! This power plant will not be used, the power plant includes, in addition to the gas turbine engine, gearboxes with inter-gear bridges. For 8 ships, it is not comme il faut to set up production of something that will not be useful later, and 1155 still "run through" a maximum of 15 years after modernization.
            The Navy has finally gone to some kind of unification of the GTE (I would like to believe that the motor zoo, as in the Soviet Union, will be avoided). GTEs also go to the "national economy", but there GTEs, as in 1155, will not find their application.
            Therefore, we proceeded from a technical, economically justified, possibility to put in a series those gas turbine engines, on which the power plant will be built in the future.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 20 October 2020 16: 40
              0
              Didn't try!

              So again I confuse either with 1164 or with 1135.
              For 8 ships, it is not comme il faut to set up production of something that will not be useful later, and 1155 still "run through" a maximum of 15 years after modernization.

              8 ships and 15 years IMHO in modern realities is already a lot
              1. ZEMCH
                ZEMCH 20 October 2020 22: 40
                +3
                Quote: alexmach
                8 ships and 15 years IMHO in modern realities is already a lot

                To date, in a displacement of 1155 of the project, only a good target, no modern PLO weapons, no air defense, no strike. To be honest, we called them "cabin-carrier"!
                I can tell a lot about this project, but this is for a separate article! In fact, it is very expensive to upgrade to an acceptable state, plus the power plant has exhausted its resource.
            2. Nemchinov Vl
              Nemchinov Vl 22 October 2020 12: 33
              0
              Quote: ZEMCH
              Didn't try! This power plant will not be applied,
              ?! maybe on the contrary ?! If it (this really successful GEM could be mastered by ourselves instead of the Nikolaev "Zorya-Mashproekt", or during, before the coup, buy a license and start production at home), then most problems in shipbuilding programs, renewal / revival fleet, would not stand in principle (!!!).... yes For example, this would allow now, to build on the Kaliningrad "Yantar", so new ships (in the sense that they are immediately NEW in the configuration of the current "Shaposhnikov" (!!)). Moreover, in the new one, it would be possible already during construction, put not the "Dagger" air defense system, but let's say "Polyment-Redut" (!)... And you really think it wouldn't make sense ? !!.... Besides, The same (but slightly deformed turbines), would also allow to build 11356 R / M, continuing the series of "Petrel", and not bursting 20380, according to higher price ?!... and you say -
              Quote: ZEMCH
              For 8 ships to establish production of what is no longer useful - not comme il faut,
              ?! Well, very (!), would be very useful !!!.... "Chabanenko" would already be running and not standing (!)if there was something to replace its worn out power plant (!).
              Quote: ZEMCH
              The navy finally went for some kind of unification of the GTE
              belay who other than you could notice it ?! and what is this unification ?!. recourse
              Quote: ZEMCH
              Therefore, we proceeded from a technical, economically justified, possibility to put in a series those gas turbine engines, on which the power plant will be built in the future.
              then why aren't they being built ? !! maybe the M-70 FRU GTE turned out to be "pretty jumbo" (unsuccessful), and it didn't go with the creation of reducers (there was not enough school and experience of creation as in Nikolaev) yes
              So, sorry, but with your point of view, I DO NOT AGREE (!) deeply and sincerely ... !!! hi
              Quote: ZEMCH
              And so KMOLZ is gradually repairing the GTE
              KMOLZ - ?! how fast ?!
    2. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov 20 October 2020 10: 30
      -1
      Just about, I am also interested in this question against the background of today's realities. After all, his TU was Nikolaev. What have you replaced?
  9. ficus2003
    ficus2003 20 October 2020 10: 09
    +4
    Is there some kind of air defense on it?
    1. Errr
      Errr 20 October 2020 10: 59
      +6
      Good question. I don't understand why the minuses fly to a person who just asked? what To our great regret, from the air defense system there is only the "Dagger" near-zone air defense system.
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 20 October 2020 11: 55
        0
        Quote: Herrr
        from the air defense there is only the near-zone air defense system "Dagger".

        And this
        isn't it air defense?
        1. Errr
          Errr 20 October 2020 12: 04
          +4
          And this is the "Dagger" UVP. smile
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 20 October 2020 12: 52
            +3
            Quote: Herrr
            And this is the UVP "Dagger"

            Clear. Thanks for the information.
            1. Errr
              Errr 20 October 2020 13: 05
              0
              hi Don't mention. smile
          2. huntsman650
            huntsman650 20 October 2020 13: 21
            +1
            Two air defense systems, bow and stern. Must be on these projects. I watched the video, the antenna post is only in the comrade, i.e. there is one spy on the cap.
            1. Errr
              Errr 20 October 2020 13: 46
              0
              At the stern, the Dagger was not initially there.
              In this regard, after the modernization, nothing has changed; still the only air defense system is located in the bow of the ship.
              1. huntsman650
                huntsman650 20 October 2020 15: 33
                +2
                Watch the video carefully! The antenna post is in the stern, and I "worked" on them for 13 years. They thrust it into the stern))) !!! There were launchers, there were no control systems!
              2. huntsman650
                huntsman650 20 October 2020 15: 41
                +2
                Above the hangars "shed".
                1. Errr
                  Errr 20 October 2020 17: 11
                  0
                  Thanks for your correction. hi And I wondered where these 4 more firing windows had gone. smile With your help, grandmother's loss was finally found, 2 between the "Boas" and 2 in front of them.
                  1. huntsman650
                    huntsman650 20 October 2020 19: 20
                    +2
                    With a ship crane, pencils are inserted into the TPK))). 4x8.
              3. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 20 October 2020 17: 11
                +3
                Quote: Herrr
                At the stern, the Dagger was not initially there.

                Was. Even in your picture, you can see two "huts" of antenna posts - both above the bridge and above the hangar.
                This early 1155 was not lucky - someone got only the aft AP (like the same "Kulakov"), and someone did not.
                BOD "Udaloy" 1983 Both "roosts" of the AP are virgin empty.
                1. Errr
                  Errr 20 October 2020 17: 20
                  +2
                  I just found, on a tip from the comrade ranger650 (Andrei), 4 covers of the firing windows of the aft UVP "Dagger" on the deck of "Marshal Shaposhnikov" next to the "Boas". smile But thank you for the detailed information. hi
                2. huntsman650
                  huntsman650 20 October 2020 19: 13
                  +2
                  Udaloy personally analyzed 1999 (((
    2. Errr
      Errr 20 October 2020 12: 01
      +2
      A little overlooked. There are four more "metal cutters" AK-630 (gun mounts), but these are already for shooting almost "point-blank" (at a distance of up to 4 km) who broke through. smile In the picture below, three of them are clearly visible (there are 2 each on the starboard and port side).
  10. Guards turn
    Guards turn 20 October 2020 11: 05
    +3
    The modernized frigate Marshal Shaposhnikov is awaiting the installation of the Pantsir-M anti-aircraft missile and artillery complex. Izvestia writes about this with reference to the military department. The fire capabilities of the system are capable of destroying any enemy helicopters, aircraft, drones and cruise missiles at a distance of up to 30 km. Experts believe that with such an installation, the frigate will become practically invulnerable.
    Several variants of the Pantsir-M installation are being worked out at once. However, there are technical difficulties associated with the location of the air defense complex. "Shaposhnikov", commissioned in 1986, it was built on the basis of other technical requirements than modern ships. Now the frigate is being modernized, which will make it a versatile ship capable of striking sea and ground targets.
  11. made13
    made13 20 October 2020 11: 23
    +2
    It's good that we modernized it. It's better than "Kerch" in Inkerman sawed for scrap sad
    1. ZEMCH
      ZEMCH 20 October 2020 13: 20
      0
      Quote: made13
      It's good that we modernized it. It's better than "Kerch" in Inkerman sawed for scrap

      It was a good ship, but after the fire they decided not to restore it
      1. Dmitry Alekseev
        Dmitry Alekseev 20 October 2020 13: 48
        0
        "Ochakov" after a fire in 1993 was never restored either. In 1991, they undertook repairs, but the fire did its job. There was so much new equipment that was burnt out ... And everyone knows the rest of it.
        1. ZEMCH
          ZEMCH 20 October 2020 13: 50
          0
          Quote: Dmitry Alekseev
          "Ochakov" after a fire in 1993 was never restored either. In 1991, they undertook repairs, but the fire did its job. There was so much new equipment that was burnt out ... And everyone knows the rest of it.

          As I have written many times, the human factor is the weakest point. All the fires in the fleet from this
          1. yehat2
            yehat2 20 October 2020 13: 57
            +1
            How can a fire develop spontaneously on a warship with a crew on watch, who can fight for survivability?
            1. Dmitry Alekseev
              Dmitry Alekseev 20 October 2020 14: 20
              0
              At Ochakovo, during the repair, after welding, there were no supplies left, that's the result.
  12. yehat2
    yehat2 20 October 2020 13: 53
    0
    if you omit the context of the article, the title sounds like a chapter from the work "empire of the dead"
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 20 October 2020 17: 16
      +1
      Quote: yehat2
      if you omit the context of the article, the title sounds like a chapter from the work "empire of the dead"

      Technonecromancy is our everything! smile
      And there is still a return to service of "Admiral Nakhimov" and "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov" (pah-pah-pah, so as not to jinx it).
  13. yehat2
    yehat2 20 October 2020 13: 55
    -1
    Quote: Herrr
    A little overlooked

    and how do you assess its combat capability today?
  14. faiver
    faiver 20 October 2020 16: 34
    +2
    some kind of unfinished modernization, as it was considered without air defense, and remained
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  16. Garris199
    Garris199 20 October 2020 23: 10
    0
    What a 7000+ tons frigate. It's a destroyer, isn't it?
  17. FRoman1984
    FRoman1984 21 October 2020 04: 27
    +1
    The good news is that the other 1155 series ships need to be upgraded. It is a pity that the destroyers of the 956 series, because of the power plant, will go under the knife without a chance of modernization.
  18. Vladshat
    Vladshat 26 October 2020 16: 52
    0
    The modernization is flawed. Without strengthening the ship's air defense, it was not worth starting modernization.
    My opinion is. It was necessary so.
    Remove the old bow cannon and install a new 130 mm A-192. Or put 130mm, twin AK-130, taken from destroyers. There were two trunks and two trunks will remain. The caliber has increased.
    Instead of the second artillery complex, put UKSK 3s14, but not for 16 cells, but for 24 cells. They fit there.
    TPK ,, Rastrub-B ,, leave in place, and insert 2 KR ,, Uranium ,, into each container, replacing the launch cups. They include small-sized rockets. It will turn out not 8 missiles, as now, but 16, and the appearance of the ship will not be so poor.
    At the stern, dismantle the cargo crane and the front section of the "Dagger" complex. Install the "Redut" complex for 24 cells on this site. It fits there too.
    Replace the corresponding radar.
    TA and RBU remain. Instead of AK-630 stern guns, you can put the ZAK ,, Broadsword ,,
    We get the destroyer. 40 attack missiles and 72 anti-aircraft missiles.
    These jobs are not very difficult and not time consuming. A ship for 10 - 15 years of service.