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The Prosecutor General's Office of Azerbaijan announced an Armenian attempt to strike the Baku-Novorossiysk pipeline, the Ministry of Defense of Armenia reacted

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The General Prosecutor's Office of Azerbaijan has published a statement that the Armenian side attempted to fire on the Baku-Novorossiysk pipeline. The report says that the shelling allegedly took place on October 18 - at about 13:XNUMX local time.


From the message of the Azerbaijani Prosecutor General's Office:

The Armenian Armed Forces used non-military export pipelines for crude oil and condensate in the Khyzi region of the Republic of Azerbaijan using military methods that could cause significant destruction. The Armenian armed forces tried to launch rockets in the direction of the Khizi region, located more than 300 km from the combat area. Fragments of ammunition are located in the immediate vicinity of the pipeline that passes through the village of Sitalchay - just 250 meters from the hydrocarbon transportation facility.

The Prosecutor General's Office claims that an attempt was made to deliberately destroy infrastructure in order to violate the conditions for the transportation of crude oil and condensate.

From the report:

In this regard, the prosecutor's office carries out the necessary investigative measures and procedural actions at the scene.

A tape is visible, which separates the area with fragments of ammunition.

The Armenian Defense Ministry responded to these statements by the Azerbaijani side. The press secretary of the Armenian military department Shushan Stepanyan published a statement on her page that the materials of the Prosecutor General's Office of Azerbaijan are false.

From Stepanyan's statement (punctuation and style retained):

The statement of the Prosecutor General's Office of Azerbaijan about allegedly rocket attacks on the Baku-Novorossiysk pipeline is an absolute lie, and the lie needs no comment.

Several days ago, it was reported in Baku that the enemy attempted to strike at the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline.
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General Prosecutor's Office of Azerbaijan
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  1. Prahlad
    Prahlad 19 October 2020 15: 33 New
    17
    Armenia is doing everything to draw Russia into this conflict, I am not surprised if this is true.
    1. Ela myaushkina
      Ela myaushkina 19 October 2020 15: 40 New
      +7
      Quote: Prahlad
      Armenia is doing everything to draw Russia into this conflict, I am not surprised if this is true.

      This was known from the very beginning. And to protect such an "ally", to your own way.
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 19 October 2020 16: 06 New
        +3
        I remember that in 1914 Russia also had such a dwarf "ally", for the protection of which Russia started a war against Germany and Austria-Hungary. And the Serbian "brothers" also provoked the Austrians in every possible way, shouting "Russia help!" Absolutely exactly the same provocation of the Anglo-Saxons. Soros Pashinyan is trying with might and main to drag Russia into the war.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 19 October 2020 17: 27 New
          +3
          I remember that in 1914 Russia also had such a dwarf "ally" for the protection of which ...

          Oh, don't, don't. The dwarf ally was a dwarf excuse for everyone. This is not why Russia started the war.
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 19 October 2020 18: 17 New
            0
            Quote: alexmach
            This is not why Russia started the war.

            That's right. But the detonator of Russia's entry into WWI was precisely the mission of helping the Serb brothers in the mania for helping the Slav brothers. Turkey entered the war much later, after the British, after the outbreak of the war, took away from the Turks two battleships, for the construction of which Turkey scraped together at the expense of people's donations, and it is natural that Turkey could not endure such a slap in the face and entered into an alliance with Germany. In July 1914, when hysteria was whipped up about “helping the Serb brothers, oppressed by the filthy Austrians,” there was no talk of a war with Turkey for the Straits. ”Russia entered WWI ONLY to help the Serb brothers.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 19 October 2020 18: 21 New
              +3
              It was about the straits that they talked about, and of course, about the expansion of influence in the Balkans. Germany skillfully dragged Turkey into the war. The Turks seem to be the only ones who were not stupid and understood how this war would end for them and resisted with all their might. If there were no detonator, it would be different. The belligerents were led to war by their imperialist expansionist sentiments, and nothing else. Erz-dukes and "brothers" were nothing more than an excuse.
              1. Kot_Kuzya
                Kot_Kuzya 19 October 2020 18: 45 New
                -4
                Don't write nonsense. Turkey was not Germany's ally. If Russia wanted the straits, then why the hell did it stand up for the "Serbian brothers", and did not sit out at the beginning of this conflict? Russia entered the war precisely for the sake of its "Serbian brothers". Turkey at that time was generally a neutral country, and it was not known on whose side it would join, especially from the experience of the Crimean and Balkan wars, it would have joined on the side of England and France.
                1. Clear
                  Clear 19 October 2020 19: 51 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                  she would side with England and France.

                  I am plagued by vague doubts that England's ears stick out even because of Erdogan's big ears.
                2. alexmach
                  alexmach 19 October 2020 20: 43 New
                  -1
                  Do not write nonsense

                  You tell more nonsense about brothers. Mamkin is a historian. another.
                  In Russia in February 1914 Years, the Council of Ministers concluded that the most favorable opportunity for the conquest of Constantinople would arise in the context of a pan-European war. At 1914 year Nicholas II approved the recommendations of his cabinet and instructed the government to take all the necessary measures in order to capture Constantinople, the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles at the earliest opportunity
                  1. Kot_Kuzya
                    Kot_Kuzya 20 October 2020 00: 04 New
                    0
                    Don't write nonsense. Turkey entered the war only in November 1914. There is no need to rub in the nonsense here that Russia entered the war for the sake of the Straits.
                    1. alexmach
                      alexmach 20 October 2020 09: 32 New
                      -1
                      "Are you writing nonsense" is that the only argument you have left?
                      Open any history textbook or something.
                      The immediate reasons for Russia's entry into the war were opposition to the hegemony of Germany in Europe and the Austrian invasion of the Balkans, claims for free passage of the Russian fleet into the Mediterranean Sea, revision of the regime of control over the Dardanelles in its favor, protectorate over all Slavic peoples; support in the Balkans for anti-Austrian and anti-Turkish sentiments among Serbs and Bulgarians.
                      1. Kot_Kuzya
                        Kot_Kuzya 20 October 2020 10: 00 New
                        -2
                        Quote: alexmach
                        opposition to German hegemony in Europe

                        Absolute nonsense. Russia had nothing to share with Germany. It was France and England who needed to resist the hegemony of Germany in Europe.
                        I repeat once again, Turkey entered WWI only on November 12, 1914. Russia started the war on August 1 precisely for the sake of the "brothers". Judge for yourself, for the sake of capturing the straits it was necessary to start fighting with Germany and Austria-Hungary, despite the fact that at that time Turkey was neutral? The only reason for Russia's war with Germany and Austria-Hungary was help to the "brothers".
                        That is, if they wrote the truth in the history textbook, then your passage would be like this:
                        .
                        The immediate reasons for Russia's entry into the war were opposition to the Austrian invasion of the Balkans, a protectorate over all Slavic peoples; support in the Balkans for anti-Austrian sentiments among Serbs and Bulgarians.
                      2. Was mammoth
                        Was mammoth 20 October 2020 10: 13 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                        That is, if the truth were written in the history textbook ...

                        Applied to Turkey.
                        THEN would at least write:
                        "... the real essence of this war is not national, but imperialist. In other words: the war is not going on because one side overthrows the national oppression, the other defends it. The war is between two groups of oppressors, between two robbers because of this how to divide the booty, who should rob Turkey and the colonies .... " V.I. Lenin. wink
                        Young imperialist predator Germany with comrades and old "lions".
                      3. alexmach
                        alexmach 20 October 2020 10: 21 New
                        -1
                        Judge for yourself, for the sake of capturing the straits it was necessary to start fighting with Germany and Austria-Hungary, despite the fact that at that time Turkey was neutral?

                        Yes, I should have. Considering the experience of the Crimean War and close relations between Turkey and Germany. Without their neutralization, it would not have been possible to take any straits, otherwise the Austrians would have faced a blow to the rear. Well, as you yourself know, Turkey did not remain neutral for long. It was not possible to remain neutral in that "meat grinder".
                        The only reason for Russia's war with Germany and Austria-Hungary was help to the "brothers"

                        This is nonsense, because the "brothers" themselves were needed by Russia first of all to put pressure on Turkey and Austria. And for their own strengthening in the region. And for the same outlet to the Mediterranean.
                      4. Kot_Kuzya
                        Kot_Kuzya 20 October 2020 10: 32 New
                        -2
                        Do not write nonsense.
                        ... Yes, I should have. Considering the experience of the Crimean War and close relations between Turkey and Germany. Without their neutralization, it would not have been possible to take any straits, otherwise the Austrians would have waited for a blow to the rear

                        Turkey, Britain, France and Sardinia took part in the Crimean War against Russia. It is precisely for Britain that it is important not to give Russia the straits in order to lock the Russian fleet in the Black Sea. For Austria-Hungary and Germany, as for land countries, the capture of the straits by Russia did not interfere in any way.
                        ... This is nonsense, because Russia needed the "brothers" themselves primarily to put pressure on Turkey and Austria and for nothing else.

                        This is why Russia entered WWI, for the sake of the "brothers" - to protect the Serbs from Austria-Hungary. Well, since Austria-Hungary had an alliance agreement with Germany, this automatically meant a war with Germany.
                      5. alexmach
                        alexmach 20 October 2020 13: 24 New
                        -1
                        Turkey, Britain, France and Sardinia participated in the Crimean War against Russia

                        And also Germany and Austria Hungary put forward ultimatums and threatened to join the war.
                        It is precisely for Britain that it is important not to give Russia the straits in order to lock the Russian fleet in the Black Sea.

                        It was important to everyone. To absolutely everyone.
                        For Austria-Hungary and Germany, as for land countries, the capture of the straits by Russia did not interfere in any way.

                        Don't write nonsense about land countries, okay.
                        Firstly, the seizure of the straits would allow expanding expansion to the Balkans, where there was fertile ground for this, and this would be a direct blow to the interests of Austria-Hungary. In addition, Germany actively developed cooperation with Turkey. So to speak, I was preparing to "attach" it economically. The Berlin-Baghdad railway was built on its territory. German banks worked in Turkey. And I would not calmly look at the weaning of territories from Turkey. I would go to defend my investments, so with "the capture of the straits by Russia did not interfere in any way" you loudly sit in a puddle. Interfered and significantly stronger than the British.
                      6. Kot_Kuzya
                        Kot_Kuzya 20 October 2020 15: 23 New
                        -2
                        Do not write nonsense.
                        Quote: alexmach
                        And also Germany and Austria Hungary put forward ultimatums and threatened to join the war.

                        No Germany and Austria-Hungary existed at that time. The ultimatum was put forward only by Austria, while Prussia only called on Russia to agree to the ultimatum of Austria.
                      7. alexmach
                        alexmach 20 October 2020 15: 31 New
                        -1
                        Do you have any other objections? With the thought that Germany and Austria would not allow the partition of Turkey, would you agree?
                      8. Kot_Kuzya
                        Kot_Kuzya 20 October 2020 16: 44 New
                        -2
                        I do not know. If Russia had remained on the sidelines, then with the epic march of Germany and Austria-Hungary with Britain and France, the central powers might not have run into Russia when it seized the straits. They would have won France in alliance with the hegemon of the then world, Britain, and not divert forces to Russia. Again, I will draw an analogy with the capture of the Baltic by Peter the Great, Britain was then busy with the war for the Spanish inheritance, and during the capture of Crimea by Catherine, it was busy with the war with the United States. If Britain had not fought in those days, it would certainly have helped Sweden to keep the Baltic states, and Turkey to keep the Crimea.
      2. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 20 October 2020 10: 40 New
        0
        And by the way, the passage you quoted does not mean at all that Russia is obliged to fight for the straits with Germany and Austria-Hungary
        ... In Russia, in February 1914, the Council of Ministers concluded that the most favorable opportunity for the conquest of Constantinople would arise in the context of a pan-European war. In April 1914, Nicholas II approved the recommendations of his cabinet and instructed the government to take all necessary measures in order to capture Constantinople, the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles at the earliest opportunity.

        If you understood geopolitics, then it would be clear to you that this passage means that in the event of a major European turmoil, you can quietly seize the straits while the main European powers are engaged in a war with each other. For example, Peter the First and Catherine the Second did this. Peter the Great, under the guise of the War of the Spanish Succession, recaptured the Baltic from the Swedes and provided Russia with access to the sea. Catherine II, under the guise of the Anglo-American war, captured the Crimea. I am sure that if it were not for these wars, then England would have spoiled both Peter and Catherine, not allowing Russia to go to the Baltic and capture the Crimea.
  • 210ox
    210ox 19 October 2020 17: 37 New
    +1
    For such an ally. After the shelling of residential buildings in Ganja, fit in with these ... By the way, Armenia is a mono-national state. With all that it implies.
  • Clear
    Clear 19 October 2020 19: 20 New
    +6
    Quote: Kot_Kuzya
    Soros Pashinyan is trying hard to drag Russia into the war.

    But, at the same time, he does not officially voice it. They say Russia should intervene and that's it, and we will continue to pursue a Russophobic policy according to Comrade Soros's manual.
  • karima
    karima 19 October 2020 20: 11 New
    0
    Quote: Kot_Kuzya
    Soros Pashinyan is trying hard to drag Russia into the war.
    Did Pashinyan himself run up, loaded, pointed, and even fired? No, Pashinyan alone is not enough.
  • 1976AG
    1976AG 19 October 2020 15: 42 New
    -2
    Quote: Prahlad
    Armenia is doing everything to draw Russia into this conflict, I am not surprised if this is true.

    And Turkey? Is it okay? And what is the connection between the alleged attempt to damage the pipeline and Russia's involvement in the conflict?
    1. Clear
      Clear 19 October 2020 19: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: 1976AG
      Quote: Prahlad
      Armenia is doing everything to draw Russia into this conflict, I am not surprised if this is true.
      And what is the connection between the alleged attempt to damage the pipeline and Russia's involvement in the conflict?
      Obviously they want to focus on
      about, allegedly, rocket attacks on the Baku-Novorossiysk pipeline,
  • VyacheSeymour
    VyacheSeymour 19 October 2020 15: 42 New
    -3
    Armenia is doing everything to draw Russia into this conflict, I am not surprised if this is true.


    And if she achieves (in the end) this by such methods, on whose side will Russia take?
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 19 October 2020 15: 45 New
      +9
      Quote: VyacheSeymour
      Armenia is doing everything to draw Russia into this conflict, I am not surprised if this is true.


      And if she achieves (in the end) this by such methods, on whose side will Russia take?

      And so that no one was offended to overfigach everyone.
      1. VyacheSeymour
        VyacheSeymour 19 October 2020 15: 49 New
        -5
        And so that no one was offended to overfigach everyone.

        And forever lose the South Caucasus?
        1. Oleg123219307
          Oleg123219307 19 October 2020 15: 52 New
          +6
          Quote: VyacheSeymour
          And so that no one was offended to overfigach everyone.

          And forever lose the South Caucasus?

          What for? Pick up the composition. And who doesn't like the borders to Turkey and Iran are open ...
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 19 October 2020 17: 30 New
            +3
            Quote: oleg123219307
            Pick up the composition

            Early. Let them have fun. You have to wait until they themselves crawl, and then later, the stench will not turn out, about the "occupiers". However, they have already crawled up once, two hundred years ago, when they were rescued from the Turks on one side, from the Persians on the other, and still, the lesson has not been learned. Kindly, these people do not understand.
            1. saigon
              saigon 21 October 2020 13: 16 New
              0
              So, as a historical replica, in the Ottoman Empire, the Armenians did not badly serve in the Sultan's army.
              Sometimes they fought together with the Turks against the Persians, and sometimes with the Persians against the Turks.
          2. The Siberian barber
            The Siberian barber 19 October 2020 23: 14 New
            0
            Quote: oleg123219307
            Quote: VyacheSeymour
            And so that no one was offended to overfigach everyone.

            And forever lose the South Caucasus?

            What for? Pick up the composition. And who doesn't like the borders to Turkey and Iran are open ...

            Turkey will not be, according to Father Paisius laughing
            Tickets, only, to Tehran))
        2. 1976AG
          1976AG 19 October 2020 15: 53 New
          +5
          Quote: VyacheSeymour
          And so that no one was offended to overfigach everyone.

          And forever lose the South Caucasus?

          We will lose if we do nothing. We watched in silence when the government in Armenia changed to a pro-American one. Now we are tolerating Turkey's intervention. And what, is the Caucasus ours now?
          1. private person
            private person 19 October 2020 17: 05 New
            +4
            We'll lose if we don't do anything

            But as an outside observer, what do you propose to do? Send troops into the conflict zone? And on what basis? The CSTO agreement does not apply to NPOs. As peacekeepers, both sides of the conflict must again express their will.
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 19 October 2020 17: 39 New
              +3
              Quote: private person
              We'll lose if we don't do anything

              But as an outside observer, what do you propose to do? Send troops into the conflict zone? And on what basis? The CSTO agreement does not apply to NPOs. As peacekeepers, both sides of the conflict must again express their will.

              And there are only two options. Either comply with the agreements and lose the Caucasus, and we will not be good for anyone anyway), or act like states. The Caucasus is a zone of our vital interests and all went nafig. Why is the US military in Syria? Why do the states allow themselves to break any treaties, from the treaty with Iran to the treaties ensuring global security of the INF Treaty and START? Well, some countries were outraged about this, and that was the end of it. Wiped off, resigned. The same, however, as about the return of Crimea or the declaration of independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Yes, they shouted loudly and for a long time, but they wiped themselves anyway. The modern world does not value justice and it is impossible to ignore this fact.
              1. private person
                private person 19 October 2020 20: 06 New
                -1
                Why do states allow themselves to break any treaties, from a treaty with Iran to treaties that ensure global security

                In general, I agree with you, but as you probably noticed, the United States does whatever it wants and they don't have anything for it. The world community is silent and does not seem to notice anything. And what will happen if Russia does something like that. Accusations, sanctions and various other mischief will immediately follow. The economy of Russia is not the economy of the USSR, now a lot in the economy depends on supplies from overseas, starting from medicines, electronics, etc. But something needs to be done and I think soon we will find out what our leadership will take.
    2. Prahlad
      Prahlad 19 October 2020 15: 57 New
      +4
      I would like the truth to touch them for Azerbaijan, the Armenians behave very meanly. Let the west help them.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 19 October 2020 16: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: Prahlad
        I would like the truth to touch them for Azerbaijan, the Armenians behave very meanly. Let the west help them.

        Do you have reliable information?
      2. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 19 October 2020 16: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Prahlad
        I would like the truth to touch them for Azerbaijan, the Armenians behave very meanly.

        I was at the market yesterday, buying fruit from an Armenian saleswoman. While she was weighing me raspberries, strawberries, blueberries, a gloomy guy came up. She to him - hello Manuk, why gloomy? He is tired, where are the tomatoes from? She is Dagestan, not Turkey, and I don't sell Turkish ones at all, they don't take them.
        I go on to another familiar family, also Armenians. I take vegetables from them. The owner persuades you to take a pomegranate - very tasty, sweet, real Azerbaijani! repeat
    3. Clear
      Clear 19 October 2020 19: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: VyacheSeymour
      which side will Russia take?

      Russia must take the side of its own national interests. And this conflict can be influenced through Northern Cyprus, Syria, Libya, Kurds ...
  • sailor roman
    sailor roman 19 October 2020 15: 49 New
    -12 qualifying.
    Operational reports indicate that the Azerbaijani Armed Forces carried out strikes at their settlements and facilities, referring to the strikes of Armenia.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 19 October 2020 16: 09 New
      +5
      Pictures of the Armenian satellite constellation?
    2. Rubina
      Rubina 19 October 2020 17: 43 New
      +4
      I remember that the non-commissioned officer's widow also whipped herself
  • denis obuckov
    denis obuckov 19 October 2020 17: 16 New
    -2
    There, an oil pipeline runs along the easternmost coast of Azerbaijan. Armenia simply does not have missiles that would fly there
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 19 October 2020 18: 15 New
      0
      Quote: denis obuckov
      There, an oil pipeline runs along the easternmost coast of Azerbaijan

      from Baku to Makhachkala along the Caspian coast, and they write
      in the Khizi region of the Republic of Azerbaijan
      , so from Khiza to Baku is less than a hundred km. As it is not very clear all this ...
    2. kit88
      kit88 19 October 2020 19: 13 New
      +7
      Armenia simply does not have missiles that would fly there

      Well why not.
      Range 300 km. It is clear that this is not an MLRS, but something more serious. Iskander and Elbrus are more serious among Armenians. Elbrus KVO is 450 meters, so you can't get into the pipeline. Iskander remains. But Iskander has the usual 920 mm caliber. Has the pipe with a diameter of 92 cm? It looks like less. There is no funnel.
      We conclude: the photo is fake, there is no evidence of shelling.
  • svp67
    svp67 19 October 2020 17: 26 New
    +7
    Quote: Prahlad
    Armenia is doing everything to draw Russia into this conflict, I am not surprised if this is true.

    There are such attempts, why hide there.
    But in this case, the ammunition flew along a ballistic trajectory of two and a half hundred kilometers and falling on the plowed field left no craters ... some kind of magic
  • Megatron
    Megatron 19 October 2020 17: 55 New
    +1
    Let them beat Jeyhan angry
  • LifeIsGood
    LifeIsGood 19 October 2020 22: 18 New
    0
    Oh, come on ... the statement is in the style of "written on the fence." If the Armenians wanted to kill this pipe, they would kill it. And shit *** they would have been on that Azerbadzhan. And then suddenly oh ... they shot ... they didn't fall ... and into the bushes.
    Themselves logically estimate how many options in general how you can kill this pipe, from a massive missile salvo, ending with sabotage.
    Well, I don't believe in this nonsense ... I would rather believe that Azerbajan fired at himself. Well, what about putting a rocket / two a little to the side of the object, and then running around and hysteria all over the world.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 20 October 2020 06: 37 New
    0
    Quote: Prahlad
    Armenia is doing everything to draw Russia into this conflict, I am not surprised if this is true.

    You are right, but the other side is no better. The photo is doubtful. Parts of the rocket fell from a height of several kilometers and lay down so neatly .... I don't believe it!
  • uranium
    uranium 19 October 2020 15: 43 New
    0
    Apparently the little magpie doesn’t go on such an adventure.
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 19 October 2020 16: 13 New
      11
      Apparently the little magpie doesn’t go on such an adventure.


      Pashinyan may be a magpie, but Aliyev is a baby. So two boots are a pair ...
      1. Clear
        Clear 19 October 2020 20: 01 New
        +4
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        Apparently the little magpie doesn’t go on such an adventure.


        Pashinyan may be a magpie, but Aliyev is a baby. So two boots are a pair ...

        Correct comparison, only the word "may" is superfluous.
      2. uranium
        uranium 20 October 2020 16: 04 New
        -1
        For people like you, there may be a couple for adequate ones, far from being a couple.
  • Nasdaq
    Nasdaq 19 October 2020 15: 48 New
    +9
    It may be true. But 1 rocket, and even sideways, is not crumpled (if flopped sideways), and not stuck into the ground. The head is 2 meters from the body. No deepening. Even if it didn’t explode, it would have crashed. If it is from a MLRS, then 1 shot with an unguided projectile is absurd. Not very believable. Wash it is strange, or is it a hint.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 19 October 2020 15: 57 New
      +6
      I am generally surprised by the gullibility of VO visitors. They shout that even the video cannot be trusted now, then they believe even without video evidence. And everyone knows that when reporting the enemy's losses, both sides lie.
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 19 October 2020 17: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: 1976AG
        They scream that even the video cannot be trusted now

        You can trust the video. People are not allowed.
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 19 October 2020 18: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: orionvitt
          Quote: 1976AG
          They scream that even the video cannot be trusted now

          You can trust the video. People are not allowed.

          You probably don't know how video materials are manufactured. Did you believe in white helmets too?
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 20 October 2020 14: 29 New
            0
            Quote: 1976AG
            You probably don't know how video materials are manufactured. Did you believe in white helmets too?
            Aren't the "white helmets" people? That is, in our understanding, not really people, but from the point of view of the West, they are more people than, for example, we are. I know perfectly well how facts are fabricated (not only video materials), but people do it in their own interests, who are often far from altruism.
      2. Clear
        Clear 19 October 2020 20: 08 New
        +3
        Quote: 1976AG
        They shout that even the video cannot be trusted now, then they believe even without video evidence. And everyone knows that when reporting the enemy's losses, both sides lie.

        Everyone has their own vision. There is no responsibility here.
    2. Selevc
      Selevc 19 October 2020 17: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: Nasdaq
      It may be true. But 1 rocket, and even sideways, is not crumpled (if flopped sideways), and not stuck into the ground.

      Yes indeed some strange wreckage of the rocket in the photo - which fell to the ground and did not leave behind craters and traces of an explosion around - it looks like Photoshop and primitive ...))
      1. Alena-Baku
        Alena-Baku 19 October 2020 17: 25 New
        -5
        there is video footage shot on the phone, probably the ministry itself will publish them. Although the shelling of a flimsy plant in Terter and a pipeline in Ganja is already on the way, how many people do not warn not to publish it anyway.
        1. saigon
          saigon 21 October 2020 13: 27 New
          0
          If only you, madam, would take a selfie with your phone, and the ministry would take with you an Armenian addition.
          I have already said that both sides love to create bikes just like the Hans Andersrny, who are Christians.
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 19 October 2020 16: 09 New
    +8
    Feycomets both sides ..
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 19 October 2020 16: 15 New
    +2
    you are at war and oil and gas is holy Turkey and Europe))))))
    1. Clear
      Clear 19 October 2020 20: 09 New
      +4
      Quote: opuonmed
      you are at war and oil and gas is holy Turkey and Europe))))))

      Oh, do we really know now where the needle is with Kashchei's death? belay
  • Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 19 October 2020 16: 36 New
    +5
    To at least roughly understand the situation, you need to know the location of pumping stations on the Baku-Novorossiysk pipeline. Because if the goal is to stop the operation of the pipeline, then in my opinion it is most effective to shoot not at the pipe, but at the pumping station. Because pipe object is small enough. To be underground. And recoverable in a fairly short time. Which makes damaging it quite difficult. But the pumping station is quite large. All on the surface. And contains a lot of complex and expensive equipment. Which, moreover, in case of destruction, it takes a long time to restore.
    But I have an assumption that the target of the attack was not a pipeline. If the news talks about Sitalchay with coordinates 40 ° 48'21 "N 49 ° 25'12" E, then most likely the target was an airfield near this settlement.
    The former home base of the 80th Separate Assault Aviation Regiment (the first of the equipped Su-25)
    Or a military facility between Sitalchay and Gilyazi with a characteristic embankment.
  • fn34440
    fn34440 19 October 2020 17: 04 New
    -10 qualifying.
    These petrodollars are used to massacre Armenians. Aliyev sees a crime in the destruction of blood and plasma of the driving "dynamo of death" organized by him jointly with Erdogan's neogenocide of Armenians?
    1. izGOI
      izGOI 19 October 2020 20: 31 New
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      No, well, it's a sin to laugh at the poor.
  • 123456789
    123456789 19 October 2020 18: 07 New
    +2
    Quote: oleg123219307
    Quote: VyacheSeymour
    And so that no one was offended to overfigach everyone.

    And forever lose the South Caucasus?

    What for? Pick up the composition. And who does not like the borders to Turkey and Iran are open ...

    When they choke with blood, they will crawl by themselves!
    1. Oreshek
      Oreshek 19 October 2020 18: 33 New
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      Quote: 123456789
      When they choke with blood, they will crawl by themselves!

      I also adhere to this historical version .. The main thing is to wait.
  • 123456789
    123456789 19 October 2020 18: 47 New
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    Quote: Oreshek
    Quote: 123456789
    When they choke with blood, they will crawl by themselves!

    I also adhere to this historical version .. The main thing is to wait.

    The main thing is not to fuss! And then everyone will understand - the alternative to RI / USSR 2.0 is war, blood and genocide!
    1. Clear
      Clear 19 October 2020 20: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: 123456789
      Quote: Oreshek
      Quote: 123456789
      When they choke with blood, they will crawl by themselves!

      I also adhere to this historical version .. The main thing is to wait.

      The main thing is not to fuss! And then everyone will understand - the alternative to RI / USSR 2.0 is war, blood and genocide!

      In any case, these are bloody "long games".
    2. genisis
      genisis 20 October 2020 00: 24 New
      +1
      And what is the side of the Russian Federation to the USSR 2.0?
      Have we abolished private ownership of instruments of labor and means of production?
  • iouris
    iouris 19 October 2020 20: 03 New
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    The weapons supplied to defend against Turkey (I think so) have been scrapped.
  • Motorist
    Motorist 19 October 2020 20: 17 New
    +1
    The Armenian Armed Forces used non-military export pipelines of crude oil and condensate in the Khyzi region of the Republic of Azerbaijan using military methods that could cause significant destruction. Armenian armed forces tried to launch rockets ...

    Lost in translation? Did you use someone else's pipeline trying to fire rockets out of it? Bred sive cable some ...
  • Old26
    Old26 19 October 2020 20: 27 New
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    Quote: 1976AG
    We watched in silence when the government in Armenia changed to a pro-American one.

    What could they have done? Send troops to Armenia?

    Quote: denis obuckov
    There, an oil pipeline runs along the easternmost coast of Azerbaijan. Armenia simply does not have missiles that would fly there

    Oh really??? From the center of the NKR to the oil pipeline is about 250 km. They have Elbrus with a range of 300 km, and there are export versions of Iskander with the same 300 km. At the maximum (from the center of the NKR), these missiles can generally be placed in the Caspian ...

    Quote: Nasdaq
    It may be true. But 1 rocket, and even sideways, is not crumpled (if flopped sideways), and not stuck into the ground. The head is 2 meters from the body. No deepening. Even if it didn’t explode, it would have crashed. If it is from a MLRS, then 1 shot with an unguided projectile is absurd. Not very believable. Wash it is strange, or is it a hint.

    It is very likely that this is a MLRS shell. Whose specifically - HZ. It doesn't look like Elbrus - the diameter is too small and there are no aerodynamic rudders. It's the same with Iskander. Both "Iskander" and "Elbrus" have almost three times the diameter

    Quote: Selevc
    Yes indeed some strange wreckage of the rocket in the photo - which fell to the ground and did not leave behind craters and traces of an explosion around - it looks like Photoshop and primitive ...))

    If this projectile has a cluster warhead, then where will the funnel come from. The fuel ran out and collapsed. Or some kind of malfunction
  • izGOI
    izGOI 19 October 2020 20: 28 New
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    As far as I remember, not only does the pipeline pass near the village of Sitalchay, but there is also a military airfield. He was, for sure, the target of the shelling. And nevertheless: If the missiles were launched from the territory of Armenia, then she is a participant in the war, and more than Turkey.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 20 October 2020 00: 06 New
    -1
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    Apparently the little magpie doesn’t go on such an adventure.


    Pashinyan may be a magpie, but Aliyev is a baby. So two boots are a pair ...

    Uh-huh, downright Ilgam Aliyev sleeps and sees how to give Azerbaijan to Erdogan laughing and retire yourself or remain a nominal president laughing laughing laughing

    Oh what grudges against the Turks, from all the cracks rushing - personal? Apparently the Turks "offended" grandmother? - um, so if the grandmother is not Jewish, but Bulgarian, then you are a Turk, my friend, so do not be shy about your grandfather.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 20 October 2020 00: 18 New
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    More trophies ...

    The Armenian Defense Ministry responded to these statements by the Azerbaijani side. Press Secretary of the Armenian Defense Ministry Shushan Stepanyan published a statement on her page that the materials of the Prosecutor General's Office, sorry Ministry of Defense Azerbaijan are false.
  • 123456789
    123456789 20 October 2020 07: 00 New
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    Quote: VictorM
    Oh what grudges against the Turks, from all the cracks rushing - personal? Apparently the Turks "offended" grandmother? - um, so if the grandmother is not Jewish, but Bulgarian, then you are a Turk, my friend, so do not be shy about your grandfather.

    And I'm not shylaughing Great-grandfather from the Russian-Turkish war brought a Turkish woman. Married her. So you almost guessed it laughing
  • Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 20 October 2020 10: 02 New
    -2
    Quote: Kot_Kuzya
    Quote: alexmach
    opposition to German hegemony in Europe

    Absolute nonsense. Russia had nothing to share with Germany. It was France and England who needed to resist the hegemony of Germany in Europe.
    I repeat once again, Turkey entered WWI only on November 12, 1914. Russia started the war on August 1 precisely for the sake of the "brothers". Judge for yourself, for the sake of capturing the straits it was necessary to start fighting with Germany and Austria-Hungary, despite the fact that at that time Turkey was neutral? The only reason for Russia's war with Germany and Austria-Hungary was help to the "brothers".

    That is, if they wrote the truth in the history textbook, then your passage would be like this:
    ... The immediate reasons for Russia's entry into the war were opposition to the Austrian invasion of the Balkans, a protectorate over all Slavic peoples; support in the Balkans for anti-Austrian sentiments among Serbs and Bulgarians.