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New ceasefire in Karabakh: Armenia and Azerbaijan accuse each other of violations

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New ceasefire in Karabakh: Armenia and Azerbaijan accuse each other of violations

The agreement on a new ceasefire that had entered into force was immediately violated, the parties accused each other of shelling. According to the Ministry of Defense of Armenia, Azerbaijan grossly violated the new ceasefire, introduced from midnight on October 18. The press secretary of the Armenian military department Shushan Stepanyan informed about it.


According to the Armenian military, immediately after the introduction of the ceasefire regime, Baku violated it by launching an artillery shelling in the northern direction, which lasted from 00:04 to 02:45. In addition, the Azerbaijani army fired rockets in the south from 02:20 to 02:45. Details are not provided.

In turn, the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry also accused the Armenian army of gross violation of the ceasefire.

Despite the announcement of a new humanitarian ceasefire at 0.00 on October 18 (23.00 Moscow time on October 17), the Armenian armed forces once again grossly violated the agreement. At night, the enemy fired from mortars and artillery around Jebrail, as well as the liberated villages on the Araz River. There are no casualties among the personnel. Our divisions have taken adequate response measures. Troops carry out appropriate actions along the entire front at an advantageous level, at significant heights and positions

- said in the message of the military department of Azerbaijan.

Meanwhile, the press secretary of the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry Leyla Abdullayeva, commenting on the new humanitarian truce, said that the ceasefire agreement was adopted for the exchange of prisoners and the bodies of the dead, the goal of Baku is the complete liberation of Nagorno-Karabakh.

The goal of Azerbaijan is to liberate all lands, and this has been repeatedly said at the presidential level. We will go to the end, there can be no conversations like "a few villages are liberated, let the rest remain." The purpose of this humanitarian truce is the exchange of prisoners and bodies of the dead, this is not the end of the war. The truce should in no way be commented on as an end to the liberation of our lands

- emphasized Abdullayeva.

Let us remind that on Saturday Armenia and Azerbaijan announced a new humanitarian truce, which came into effect from 00:00 on October 18. All parties to the conflict promised not to violate the ceasefire.
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  1. 1976AG
    1976AG 18 October 2020 07: 38
    -3
    Until Azerbaijan rakes, it will not calm down.
    1. MTN
      MTN 18 October 2020 07: 53
      +2
      Quote: 1976AG
      Until Azerbaijan rakes, it will not calm down.

      and from whom will it scrape off? And How? winked
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 18 October 2020 07: 55
        +1
        Quote: MTN
        Quote: 1976AG
        Until Azerbaijan rakes, it will not calm down.

        and from whom will it scrape off? And How? winked

        This is another question.
        1. MTN
          MTN 18 October 2020 07: 58
          +3
          Quote: 1976AG
          This is another question.

          Well, that's why I asked, in what form and from whom? If the truce is violated through the fault of Azerbaijan, this is a direct disrespect for the Russian side, this is well known in Azerbaijan. I am even sure that the term of the truce has been unequivocally negotiated between Russia and Azerbaijan (a certain number of days), and if it is the fault of Armenia, then the distance between Armenia and Russia will increase even more, and then the Armenians will definitely get Lula and everyone will wait for new entries and news about the enforcement of peace ...
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 18 October 2020 08: 01
            10
            It is not profitable for Armenia to break the truce. I think you know why. Azerbaijan does not need a truce, as it delays the solution of the problem and gives a respite to Armenia. And all the rhetoric of Azerbaijan and Turkey confirms this.
            1. MTN
              MTN 18 October 2020 08: 10
              +2
              Quote: 1976AG
              It is not profitable for Armenia to break the truce.

              Considering that they fired at Ganja 2 times, their logic and aikyu are clearly tough, they are guided not by common sense, but by revenge. Such acts are done out of despair. Azerbaijan, however, openly tell us there is no need for a long time for a truce. They confessed and did not lie. I do not guarantee who exactly started, I just said who and what awaits for disrespect.
              1. 1976AG
                1976AG 18 October 2020 08: 13
                +2
                Quote: MTN
                Quote: 1976AG
                It is not profitable for Armenia to break the truce.

                Considering that they fired at Ganja 2 times, their logic and aikyu are clearly tough, they are guided not by common sense, but by revenge. Such acts are done out of despair. Azerbaijan, however, openly tell us there is no need for a long time for a truce. They confessed and did not lie. I do not guarantee who exactly started, I just said who and what awaits for disrespect.

                And if you remember what they shot, then it is generally not clear where they were hitting. Not only is the KVO too big, but also the technical condition and level of training of personnel - God forbid!
                1. Oleg123219307
                  Oleg123219307 18 October 2020 10: 25
                  +3
                  Quote: 1976AG
                  Quote: MTN
                  Quote: 1976AG
                  It is not profitable for Armenia to break the truce.

                  Considering that they fired at Ganja 2 times, their logic and aikyu are clearly tough, they are guided not by common sense, but by revenge. Such acts are done out of despair. Azerbaijan, however, openly tell us there is no need for a long time for a truce. They confessed and did not lie. I do not guarantee who exactly started, I just said who and what awaits for disrespect.

                  And if you remember what they shot, then it is generally not clear where they were hitting. Not only is the KVO too big, but also the technical condition and level of training of personnel - God forbid!

                  Well, in fact, if you have a weapon with an expiration date of thirty years ago, and at the best of times had a KVO of 500 meters, then you should probably think with your head before firing such missiles at a military facility surrounded by dense residential buildings. Few stand-alone goals? In general, I do not think that they are such woodpeckers. The strikes then reached their goal - they provoked Azerbaijan to respond on their territory. Another question is that ours did not climb, because there was no more reason to climb, given the behavior of Armenia, including these shelling, from the presence of a formal reason.
            2. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 18 October 2020 09: 56
              +3
              Quote: 1976AG
              I think you know why. Azerbaijan does not need a truce, as it delays the solution of the problem and gives a respite to Armenia.

              Of course, they have before their eyes the Minsk agreements, after the Ilovaisk defeat. Azerbaijan does not intend to commit such stupidity, apparently
      2. Livonetc
        Livonetc 18 October 2020 08: 00
        -6
        The losses of Azerbaijan are great.
        The successes are not enchanting.
        It will not work to win back all the territories of Karabakh.
        It is clear that Adiyev cannot stop until he regains more than half of the territories.
        But it seems that Azerbaijan will not be able to achieve this.
        A protracted heavy war may end in collapse for the current authorities of Azerbaijan.
        And the war is already with grave consequences for both sides, both in terms of military and civilian losses.
        hi
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 18 October 2020 08: 05
          +4
          Quote: Livonetc
          The losses of Azerbaijan are great.
          The successes are not enchanting.
          It will not work to win back all the territories of Karabakh.
          It is clear that Adiyev cannot stop until he regains more than half of the territories.
          But it seems that Azerbaijan will not be able to achieve this.
          A protracted heavy war may end in collapse for the current authorities of Azerbaijan.
          And the war is already with grave consequences for both sides, both in terms of military and civilian losses.
          hi

          What do you mean Azerbaijan will not be able to? He cannot himself - Turkey will help. This was openly declared to everyone.
          1. MTN
            MTN 18 October 2020 08: 18
            -1
            Quote: 1976AG
            He cannot himself - Turkey will help.

            Stop insulting the Azerbaijani army. Azerbaijan does not need any additional help from anyone. We will more than cope with 1 on 1 Armenians.
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 18 October 2020 08: 20
              +9
              Quote: MTN
              Quote: 1976AG
              He cannot himself - Turkey will help.

              Stop insulting the Azerbaijani army. Azerbaijan does not need any additional help from anyone. We will more than cope with 1 on 1 Armenians.

              This is not an insult, but a logical conclusion based on Erdogan's statements! If this offends you, ask Erdogan not to make such statements again.
              1. MTN
                MTN 18 October 2020 08: 37
                -1
                Quote: 1976AG
                based on Erdogan's statements!

                Do you need words or actions?
                Quote: 1976AG
                ask Erdogan not to make such statements again

                DYK, so he said many times that Azerbaijan did not ASK FOR HELP. I hope you don’t read what is beneficial to you?
                1. 1976AG
                  1976AG 18 October 2020 08: 41
                  +1
                  Quote: MTN
                  Quote: 1976AG
                  based on Erdogan's statements!

                  Do you need words or actions?
                  Quote: 1976AG
                  ask Erdogan not to make such statements again

                  DYK, so he said many times that Azerbaijan did not ASK FOR HELP. I hope you don’t read what is beneficial to you?

                  Did I really say that you asked ??? Where did I say that ??
                  1. MTN
                    MTN 18 October 2020 08: 44
                    0
                    [quote = 1976AG] Did I really say that you asked ??? Where did I say that ??
                    Without Aliyev's request and permission, no one will be able to fight on the side of Azerbaijan.
                    1. 1976AG
                      1976AG 18 October 2020 08: 48
                      +1
                      [quote = MTN] [quote = 1976AG] Did I really say that you asked ??? Where did I say that ??
                      Without the request and permission of Aliyev, no one will be able to fight on the side of Azerbaijan. [/ Quote]
                      And I don’t argue with that.
            2. Oleg123219307
              Oleg123219307 18 October 2020 10: 34
              -1
              Quote: MTN
              Quote: 1976AG
              He cannot himself - Turkey will help.

              Stop insulting the Azerbaijani army. Azerbaijan does not need any additional help from anyone. We will more than cope with 1 on 1 Armenians.

              There are certain limits at which you will start having problems. In particular, in the second when the front line of your troops and the occupied territories fall into the zone of operation of MLRS and artillery directly from the territory of Armenia. And you will have to decide - to fight, and later live on these lands under shells raining from the sky, or come and MASSICALLY suppress all the possibilities of Armenia to take revenge on you, in fact, creating the same security zone as the Armenians themselves. But no one will allow you to do this, the risk is too great for base 102, and not so much from you and your actions, but from the Armenians themselves. Therefore, I agree with the opinion that without Turkey in the future, closer than 50 km from the border, you have nothing to catch ... Well, or if you can knock surrender out of Armenia. Only now I am not very sure that you can, they have nowhere to place the population from Karabakh, and no one will allow you to arrange genocide, the times are not the same. Plus, the Armenians may only need to hold out for a couple of weeks. And there, Biden, who is very sympathetic to them, extremely disliked both us and Turkey, can fit in according to the eternal habit of the new American presidents, and rest assured, not at all for you.
              1. VyacheSeymour
                VyacheSeymour 18 October 2020 12: 48
                +3
                In particular, in the second when the front line of your troops and the occupied territories fall into the zone of operation of MLRS and artillery directly from the territory of Armenia

                Unfortunately for Armenia, its main mass of troops was in Karabakh ... Everything that is possible (leaving some minimum) was transferred there ... Only the video captured a cloud of destroyed MLRS (except for Grads, also W5, Hurricanes, recently Tornadoes delivered to ARMENIA) cannon artillery ... - and this is just a video of the destroyed, and in fact it is also destroyed by counter battery fire without a camera, add a video with trophies here ... It is unlikely that the answer will be significant. Yes, and the response will naturally arrive - remember the July battles ...
              2. Vadim237
                Vadim237 18 October 2020 16: 22
                +2
                "They have nowhere to place the population that you are from Karabakh." Don't worry about them, half of this population has already left for Russia to stay with relatives. In Karabakh, only 150000 people lived at the beginning of the conflict.
                1. Oleg123219307
                  Oleg123219307 18 October 2020 18: 14
                  0
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  "They have nowhere to place the population that you are from Karabakh." Don't worry about them, half of this population has already left for Russia to stay with relatives. In Karabakh, only 150000 people lived at the beginning of the conflict.

                  This is one of the reasons why I'm worried. For another 150 thousand refugees, regardless of nationality, are completely unnecessary for us.
                  1. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 19 October 2020 00: 05
                    0
                    In Russia they will dissolve imperceptibly in the population of 147 million.
                    1. Oleg123219307
                      Oleg123219307 19 October 2020 00: 34
                      +1
                      Quote: Vadim237
                      In Russia they will dissolve imperceptibly in the population of 147 million.

                      Uh-huh ... We were already told in 8 and 14 years. Thanks, you've seen enough. I don’t know where how, but here in the Krasnodar Territory it was a disaster. And both for them and for us.
        2. Mayor lee
          Mayor lee 18 October 2020 08: 09
          +4
          What the hell are you talking about? It seems you are not in the know at all. The city of Fizuli and adjacent villages were completely liberated yesterday. What the military review previously wrote about the Fizuli boiler was confirmed. But the Armenians themselves left Fizuli when they learned that all the strategic heights around the city had been captured and they were in full view. Look at yesterday's video of drone strikes, there are several of them, and then you will understand who has great losses. Azerbaijan had heavy losses at the initial stage of the war
        3. MTN
          MTN 18 October 2020 08: 16
          +4
          Quote: Livonetc
          The losses of Azerbaijan are great.

          Do you work as an auditor in the Azerbaijani army? Or in the statistics committee of the Azerbaijani armed forces? As an Azerbaijani, I don't know what the losses are, how do you know? Or do you just write nasty things about Azerbaijan?

          Quote: Livonetc
          The successes are not enchanting.

          Azerbaijan has posted so many videos, liberated so many villages, cities, and you say the successes are magical? laughing Who are you going to calm down? Your pro-Armenian orientation or Armenian users in the ax?

          Quote: Livonetc
          But it seems that Azerbaijan will not be able to achieve this.

          Every day there is news about the liberation of either villages or cities. They broke through the 30-year-old defense, took all the strategic heights and you say they cannot reach it? Ale, soon there will be no one to fight in Armenia, old men and women have already gone to the expense and weapons worth a billion more have been destroyed and what debts have gone .... generally keep quiet.
        4. Pashhenko Nikolay
          Pashhenko Nikolay 18 October 2020 09: 36
          +3
          Yes, they are fighting for three weeks in total. Before the protracted war there is still a lot.
        5. Vadim237
          Vadim237 18 October 2020 11: 34
          +3
          "Azerbaijan's losses are great" - In what place? You confused the Azerbaijani army with the Armenian one on the campaign, they took another military base
        6. VyacheSeymour
          VyacheSeymour 18 October 2020 13: 06
          +3
          The losses of Azerbaijan are great.
          The successes are not enchanting.

          At one time, the Armenians broke through to the border with Iran - aligning the front line, simultaneously shortening its length by a hundred kilometers ... - which made it possible to increase the density of defense in the remaining sectors. Now the troops of Baku have wedged in between the border of Iran and Karabakh and pulled into its mountainous part - stretching and stretching out the defense like a stocking. These new kilometers of the formed front line must be plugged with something. The echeloned defense built against the east turned out to be turned with the rear to the west. Main communications cut ... there was an urgent need to cover the rear and build new lines along this whole new front line ... and so on. etc.
          So, the situation among the Armenians is ...
    2. Fungus
      Fungus 18 October 2020 08: 02
      -3
      Azerbaijan is a Turkish colony. Until the Turks are hit in the head, they will not calm down in Syria.
      1. Mayor lee
        Mayor lee 18 October 2020 08: 11
        0
        Nobody will give the Turks in the head. Nobody
        1. Fungus
          Fungus 18 October 2020 08: 31
          -4
          Yes, the Turks have been shoveling all their lives. Again they will come running to Moscow to cry.
          1. Mayor lee
            Mayor lee 18 October 2020 10: 33
            -1
            How naive you are)
        2. Victorio
          Victorio 18 October 2020 15: 29
          -2
          Quote: Mayor Lee
          Nobody will give the Turks in the head. Nobody

          ===
          ) getting kicked in the head from Russia by the Turks is an old tradition
      2. MTN
        MTN 18 October 2020 08: 19
        0
        Quote: Fungus
        Azerbaijan is a Turkish colony.

        What criteria did you define?
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    4. Thrifty
      Thrifty 18 October 2020 09: 08
      0
      They reminded Mowgli's cartoon "a water truce is declared," and Sherkhan immediately shed blood. ... To put up with them, even for a while, like an elephant climbing a baobab, is the same hopelessly meaningless intention that cannot be fulfilled.
    5. VoroncoV
      VoroncoV 18 October 2020 09: 32
      0
      Quote: 1976AG
      Until Azerbaijan rakes, it will not calm down.

      I agree, they won't stop there ..
    6. Alexander Kopychev
      Alexander Kopychev 18 October 2020 15: 38
      +1
      Both Armenians and Azerbaijanis are shocked, and widows and orphans most of all.
    7. Rubina
      Rubina 18 October 2020 15: 56
      +2
      Just now, on October 18 at 16.50:XNUMX pm, a broadcast on Azerbaijani TV was interrupted to inform about the capture of the Khudaferin bridge - this is the border with Iran in the previously occupied Jebrail region
    8. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 18 October 2020 22: 44
      -2
      Well, the suitcase is the station ...
    9. yehat2
      yehat2 19 October 2020 09: 23
      0
      there are many warmongers around this conflict.
      To be honest, I was not at all ready to see it.
      And everyone with such a clever air says, yes, it’s bad to beat the peacemaker with MLRS, but 300 years ago he signed the Shah, so there’s no way to go, we need to restore it.
      Everyone has about the same song, everyone hides behind one or another piece of history
      and cynically close their eyes to outright genocide. I am not inclined to believe the Armenian propaganda, there is also enough lies, but the fact is the fact - the war and a lot of people are dying who could not have done this for 20 years
  2. Master
    Master 18 October 2020 07: 41
    +4
    Who would doubt that)
  3. 1976AG
    1976AG 18 October 2020 07: 43
    -2
    Already minus, apparently they think that they will calm down themselves)
    1. Pechkin
      Pechkin 18 October 2020 07: 48
      +5
      No, they just think that Armenia will get it.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 18 October 2020 07: 49
        +1
        Quote: Pechkin
        No, they just think that Armenia will get it.

        I didn’t say who it was. I said something completely different.
  4. 1976AG
    1976AG 18 October 2020 07: 47
    -3
    I learned to put the cons, well done) Are there arguments?
    1. Pechkin
      Pechkin 18 October 2020 07: 57
      12
      If you are me, then I didn’t give you any minuses. And the comment in response to yours (Until Azerbaijan rags, it will not calm down) and you were surprised that they put minuses to you. So I explained that many people think that Armenia will rage. I am as a resident The Krasnoyarsk Territory is generally an outside observer. This is not my war.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 18 October 2020 08: 02
        0
        I wrote to the miner, whoever minus will understand.
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          1. Spike Javelin Touvich
            Spike Javelin Touvich 18 October 2020 09: 17
            +1
            [quote] [/ quote] Aizer's propaganda means see the paragraph of the site rules

            Inciting ethnic hatred. This also includes the use of such words and derivatives as: Ukrainian, Khokhlyandiya, Jew, USA, Bulbash, Talaponets, Churka, Khachik, Azerbaijani, cross-eyed, Moskal, Rashka (in general, the mention of Russia and Russianness in a derogatory form) and other similar turns of unnatural speech ;

            Behave yourself properly
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 18 October 2020 10: 15
              -2
              Quote: Spike Javelin Touvich
              Inciting ethnic hatred. This also includes the use of words and derivatives such as: Ukrainian, Hohlandia, Jew, USA, bulbash, Talapon, chock, khachik, Azeri, cross-eyed, Moskal, Rashka (in general, mentioning Russia and Russianness in a derogatory form) and other similar turns of unnatural speech;

              Behave yourself properly

              Since when did the words Ukrainian, Jew and the US acronym become obscene? How should they be called?
              1. Spike Javelin Touvich
                Spike Javelin Touvich 18 October 2020 13: 45
                0
                Claims not to me see site rules

                https://topwar.ru/rules.html
                1. Piramidon
                  Piramidon 18 October 2020 15: 15
                  0
                  Quote: Spikes Javelin Touvich
                  Claims not to me see site rules

                  https://topwar.ru/rules.html


                  I looked. In the rules of the site, the words you cited (highlighted by me in your quote) do not appear.
                  1. Spike Javelin Touvich
                    Spike Javelin Touvich 18 October 2020 15: 22
                    0
                    Do not look, but read
                    Putt B
                    b) Inciting ethnic hatred. This also includes the use of such words and derivatives as: Ukrainian, Khokhlyandiya, Jew, USA, Bulbash, Talaponets, Churka, Khachik, Azerbaijani, cross-eyed, Moskal, Rashka (in general, the mention of Russia and Russianness in a derogatory form) and other similar turns of unnatural speech ;
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                    2. Piramidon
                      Piramidon 18 October 2020 15: 37
                      -1
                      Quote: Spike Javelin Touvich
                      Do not look, but read
                      Putt B

                      You yourself then re-read exactly what you wrote? I didn't invent anything. Here is a screenshot of your comment. Compare it to the LEFT clause of the rules.

                      If you did not copy the text, but pasted the screen of this point "B", everything would be logical.
            2. Humpty
              Humpty 18 October 2020 10: 26
              +1
              Quote: Spike Javelin Touvich
              Kindling

              How does the word Ukrainian offend someone's feelings? Are the British called the British now? Then, if you please, call Russia Holy Russia, and Russians, if you please, Great Russians. I doubt that the abbreviated name of an Azerbaijani is an insult, but I will not argue.
              Yegor Ligachev, for example, called Azerbaijanis and Armenians fraternal Khrotian peoples. Gorbachev could not pronounce it. And Brezhnev confused Azerbaijan with Afghanistan. So don't pretend to be a saint.
              1. Spike Javelin Touvich
                Spike Javelin Touvich 18 October 2020 13: 45
                +1
                Claims not to me see site rules

                https://topwar.ru/rules.html
                1. Humpty
                  Humpty 18 October 2020 13: 47
                  +2
                  I'm a guest here too. I try not to forget about it. hi
  5. Nychego
    Nychego 18 October 2020 08: 01
    +1
    The new ceasefire agreement that entered into force was immediately violated

    How expected it is ...
    Well, you cannot end the conflict with such agreements, as long as there are forces, means and the desire to continue it.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 18 October 2020 08: 03
      +3
      Quote: Nychego
      The new ceasefire agreement that entered into force was immediately violated

      How expected it is ...
      Well, you cannot end the conflict with such agreements, as long as there are forces, means and the desire to continue it.

      Exactly. And it is quite clear who has the strength and desire.
      1. Nychego
        Nychego 18 October 2020 08: 15
        +6
        Quote: 1976AG
        And it is quite clear who has the strength and desire.

        Yes, for now, in my opinion, both sides. It's just that the Azerbaijanis still have more desire to win, while the Armenians still have the strength to continue resistance.
        And it does not seem that the situation will change much in the next couple of weeks, although, of course, guessing in a war is a dead matter, and there is not enough reliable information for a normal analysis.
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 18 October 2020 08: 18
          +9
          Quote: Nychego
          Quote: 1976AG
          And it is quite clear who has the strength and desire.

          Yes, for now, in my opinion, both sides. It's just that the Azerbaijanis still have more desire to win, while the Armenians still have the strength to continue resistance.
          And it does not seem that the situation will change much in the next couple of weeks, although, of course, guessing in a war is a dead matter, and there is not enough reliable information for a normal analysis.

          Actually, it is Pashinyan who is cutting off the phone to Putin. If he had hoped he could do it himself, he would not have behaved this way.
          1. Nychego
            Nychego 18 October 2020 08: 24
            +4
            Quote: 1976AG
            Actually, it is Pashinyan who is cutting off the phone to Putin. If he had hoped he could do it himself, he would not have behaved this way.

            Pashinyan is not fighting. Pashinyan can sit on the priest evenly, can rush about like a scalded one, this does not negate the readiness of the Armenians to continue to defend their Artsakh and as long as they have not exhausted their means of defense.
            In addition, they, the Armenians, hope to endure until November, and there in Artsakh-Karabakh the time of fog will come and the effectiveness of the stars of this conflict - Bayraktarov will decrease slightly.
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 18 October 2020 08: 25
              +2
              Of course, he is not personally fighting, but this does not change the essence.
            2. VyacheSeymour
              VyacheSeymour 18 October 2020 16: 43
              +1
              In addition, they, the Armenians, hope to endure until November, and there in Artsakh-Karabakh the time of fog will come and the effectiveness of the stars of this conflict - Bayraktarov will decrease slightly.

              Oooh ...! - Time for fogs!
              Fog usually occurs when water evaporates from a warm surface into cold air, or when moisture-saturated warm air flows are cooled. For example, fog can often be observed in the evening or in the morning due to the strong night cooling of the air layer near the ground..

              ... How contrasting in the cooled layers of air near the ground will the targets look in the infrared sights of the Bayraktars ... And what kind of expanse is there for the special forces in the fog ... Yes, and it is easier for infantry with equipment, it is easier, and safer, to basement to the positions of the defenders in the fog. ..
        2. MTN
          MTN 18 October 2020 08: 24
          -2
          Quote: Nychego
          and the Armenians still have the strength to continue the resistance.

          old men and women are power! You're right!
          1. Nychego
            Nychego 18 October 2020 08: 29
            +4
            Quote: MTN
            old men and women are power!

            Something so far I have not seen either one or the other at the positions of the Armenians.

            If you are talking about the attacks of the Armenians on the Azerbaijani civilians, then this is mutual and takes place in any modern conflict.
            Do you think that in the next 10 years someone will be able to calmly walk around Aleppo in the form of the Russian Aerospace Forces? I suspect, until the first dark alley, and then only in a decapitated form.
            1. MTN
              MTN 18 October 2020 08: 40
              -1
              Quote: Nychego
              Something so far I have not seen either one or the other at the positions of the Armenians.

              Do you want to show pictures of old men in the trenches or women?
              1. Nychego
                Nychego 18 October 2020 09: 13
                +1
                Quote: MTN
                Do you want to show pictures of old men in the trenches or women?

                It is possible to both, only, preferably, provide links to sites describing the circumstances of the appearance of these photos (it is also possible to Armenian sites - Yandex translator is good friends with Armenian texts).
                1. MTN
                  MTN 18 October 2020 11: 44
                  0
                  I very much do not like to expose the names of the victims for ethical reasons. Look. Nothing seems strange to you? The Armenians have posted the list today.

                  Antonyan Vruyr Siamantovich, born 1977
                  Vardanyan Harutyun Samvelovich, born 1982
                  Avetisyan Hovhannes Nikolaevich, born 1967
                  Khachatryan Artur Araratovich, born in 1992
                  Grigoryan Vanik Grigorievich, born in 1971
                  Kostanyan Gevork Arkadyevich, 1996 year of birth
                  Markaryan Amazasp Vladikovich, born 1972
                  Khachatryan Vardan Zorikovich, 1990 year of birth
                  Kirakosyan Armen Aristakesovich, 1985 year of birth
                  Markaryan Arman Migrabovich, born in 1983
                  Asatryan Varuzhan Rubikovich, born 1977
                  Hakobyan Armen Haykovich, born 1980
                  Egoyan Karen Zavenovich, 1989
                  Egoyan Karen Vladikovich, 1988 year of birth
                  Muradyan Samvel Martinovich, born 1979
                  Aristakesyan Kolya Rafikovich, 1990 year of birth
                  Simonyan Zakaria Gerosovich, born 1979
                  Nazaryan Grisha Samvelovich, 1996 year of birth
                  Zakaryan Karapet Derenikovich 1986 year of birth
                  Garibyan Artur Harutyunovich, born in 1985
                  Sarkisyan Sevada Varazdatovich, born 1980
                  Harutyunyan Edgar Artemovich, born 1982
                  Aslanyan Artur Armenovich, born in 1998
                  Ayvazyan Armen Khachaturovich, 1984 year of birth
                  Arman Rafikovich Sargsyan, born in 1983
                  Simonyan Gevork Vanushevich, born 1972
                  Stepanyan Apaven Bayandurovich, born 1969
                  Zakaryan Zakaria Unanovich, 1987 year of birth
                  Babayan Papag Kadzhikovich, born 1980
                  Hrachya Vachikovich Poghosyan, born in 1995
                  Isaak Samvelovich Simonyan, born in 1995
                  Babayan Andranik Vardanovich, born in 1991
                  Mnatsakanyan Vardan Mushegovich, 1989
                  Reservist Yanek Vrezhevich Sargsyan, born in 1981
                  Reservist Artem Parzikovich Aleksanyan, born in 1983
                  Asatryan Grant Albertovich, 1986 year of birth
                  Varakyan Saak Demsikovich, born in 1981
                  Kakoyan Bagrat Saribekovich, born in 1985
                  Sargsyan Vachik Haykovich, b. 2002
                  Voskovsky Vyacheslav Valerievich, born in 1975
                  1. Nychego
                    Nychego 18 October 2020 13: 35
                    +2
                    Quote: MTN
                    Look. Nothing seems strange to you?

                    I did not see a single "old" surname with -yants in the ending.
                    And, of course, only one of the young.
                    And what have women and old people to do with it?
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 18 October 2020 14: 49
                      0
                      There are already few conscripts - judging by the lists of the dead. Or are found mainly in the North and in the center. In the south, "plugging holes" !: defense by reservists and volunteers. Or Armenian militia n / n.
              2. Vladimir61
                Vladimir61 18 October 2020 12: 00
                +1
                Quote: MTN
                Do you want to show pictures of old men in the trenches or women?

                Honor and praise to these old men and women!
            2. VyacheSeymour
              VyacheSeymour 18 October 2020 17: 11
              +1
              [Quote]
              Nychego
              Quote: MTN
              old men and women are power!

              Something so far I have not seen either one or the other in the positions of the Armenians [/ quote]

              Three weeks of fighting ... Compare the years of birth of those killed on 28 September and 18 October ...

              [Quote]
              The United Armenian Information Center has published another list of servicemen who died during the fighting in the Karabakh conflict zone on September 28, News.am reports.

              Galtakhchyan Ashot Armenovich, born in 2001

              Hovsepyan Yuri Karenovich, 2000 year of birth

              Avanesyan Ashot Meivaevich, 2000 year of birth

              Amiryan Samvel Sarkisovich, 1996 year of birth

              Harutyunyan Vanush Vahramovich, 2000 year of birth

              Hovsepyan Eric Tigranovich, b. 2002

              Narek Samvelovich Sargsyan, 2001

              Gevorkyan Zhora Karenovich, born in 2001

              Sarkisyan Arsen Sarkisovich, born in 2001

              Khachatryan Arman Armenovich, born in 2001

              Harutyunyan Samvel Norayrovich, 2000 year of birth

              Vahagn Vardanovich Takhmazyan, born in 2001

              Chobanyan Hovhannes Zohrabovich, b. 2002

              Hakobyan Tigran Meruzhanovich, 2000 year of birth

              Manucharyan Grigor Rashidovich, b. 2002

              Zoroyan Tigran Manvelovich, b. 2002

              Khachatryan Eric Arturovich, b. 2002

              Zargaryan Hakob Benikovich, b. 2002

              Ghazaryan Sosik Garikovich, b. 2002

              Karamyan Ashot Avetikovich, b. 2002

              Musaelyan Irina Lavrentyevna, born in 1979

              Melikyan Avag Grishaevich, born in 1978

              Movsisyan Andranik Gevorkovich, 1987 year of birth

              Vahagn Ashotovich Sargsyan, b. 1975

              Ispiryan Dmitry Sergeevich, 1987 b.

              volunteer Robert A. Petrosyan, 1992 [/ quote]

              [Quote]
              18 October 2020.
              Asatryan Varuzhan Rubikovich, born 1977

              Hakobyan Armen Haykovich, born 1980

              Egoyan Karen Zavenovich, 1989

              Egoyan Karen Vladikovich, 1988 year of birth

              Muradyan Samvel Martinovich, born 1979

              Aristakesyan Kolya Rafikovich, 1990 year of birth

              Simonyan Zakaria Gerosovich, born 1979

              Nazaryan Grisha Samvelovich, 1996 year of birth

              Zakaryan Karapet Derenikovich 1986 year of birth

              Garibyan Artur Harutyunovich, born in 1985

              Sarkisyan Sevada Varazdatovich, born 1980

              Harutyunyan Edgar Artemovich, born 1982

              Aslanyan Artur Armenovich, born in 1998

              Ayvazyan Armen Khachaturovich, 1984 year of birth

              Arman Rafikovich Sargsyan, born in 1983

              Simonyan Gevork Vanushevich, born 1972

              Stepanyan Apaven Bayandurovich, born 1969

              Zakaryan Zakaria Unanovich, 1987 year of birth

              Babayan Papag Kadzhikovich, born 1980

              Hrachya Vachikovich Poghosyan, born in 1995

              Isaak Samvelovich Simonyan, born in 1995

              Babayan Andranik Vardanovich, born in 1991

              Mnatsakanyan Vardan Mushegovich, 1989

              Reservist Yanek Vrezhevich Sargsyan, born in 1981

              Reservist Artem Parzikovich Aleksanyan, born in 1983

              Asatryan Grant Albertovich, 1986 year of birth

              Varakyan Saak Demsikovich, born in 1981

              Kakoyan Bagrat Saribekovich, born in 1985

              Sargsyan Vachik Haykovich, b. 2002

              Voskovsky Vyacheslav Valerievich, born in 1975
  6. ximkim
    ximkim 18 October 2020 08: 06
    +3
    It was not possible to solve the conflict with paper and pen, therefore, only lead and gunpowder can solve it.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 18 October 2020 08: 16
      +1
      Quote: ximkim
      It was not possible to solve the conflict with paper and pen, therefore, only lead and gunpowder can solve it.

      So.
      1. ximkim
        ximkim 18 October 2020 08: 31
        0
        I think there will soon be changes in the hostilities, since no one has canceled the cold yet ..
    2. Nychego
      Nychego 18 October 2020 08: 17
      +2
      Quote: ximkim
      only lead and gunpowder can solve it.

      TNT and a joystick are now relevant.
      1. ximkim
        ximkim 18 October 2020 08: 32
        0
        Yes, but there is no way without the infantry ..
    3. MTN
      MTN 18 October 2020 08: 21
      +5
      Quote: ximkim
      Paper and pen failed to resolve the conflict.

      For 30 years Azerbaijan tried to solve the conflict with a pen, the Armenians did not want to.
      1. ximkim
        ximkim 18 October 2020 08: 32
        -2
        They themselves are to blame ..
  7. Homeland
    Homeland 18 October 2020 08: 17
    +5
    Quote: Livonetc
    The losses of Azerbaijan are great.
    The successes are not enchanting.
    It will not work to win back all the territories of Karabakh.
    It is clear that Adiyev cannot stop until he regains more than half of the territories.
    But it seems that Azerbaijan will not be able to achieve this.
    hi

    Why can't it? In 20 days Azerbaijan liberated 2 out of 7 regions (Jebrail and Fizuli) plus Hadrut in Karabakh itself.
    1. MTN
      MTN 18 October 2020 08: 27
      +1
      Quote: Homeland
      Why can't it? In 20 days Azerbaijan liberated 2 out of 7 regions (Jebrail and Fizuli) plus Hadrut in Karabakh itself.

      + He took all the skyscrapers + left the separatists without air defense + without equipment. Armenia will have to recover for a very long time. They need more than BILLIONS + people. They don't do the wrong thing in a couple of years.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 18 October 2020 08: 39
        -1
        Quote: MTN
        Quote: Homeland
        Why can't it? In 20 days Azerbaijan liberated 2 out of 7 regions (Jebrail and Fizuli) plus Hadrut in Karabakh itself.

        + He took all the skyscrapers + left the separatists without air defense + without equipment. Armenia will have to recover for a very long time. They need more than BILLIONS + people. They don't do the wrong thing in a couple of years.

        Well, if they want, then both money and people will be very fast. 2 million Armenians live in Russia. At least 10% of them can definitely fight. And this is already 200. Not enough? Further. I think no one thinks that most Armenians in Russia work as janitors and plumbers. Their business is very sickly and if there is a desire, then they will find quite a lot of money. The only thing they cannot do quickly is learn how to fight.
        1. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 18 October 2020 08: 56
          -4
          The only thing they cannot do quickly is learn how to fight.


          But because the Ayzers are straight star rangers ... laughing The Turks drive Bayraktar and FSE with joysticks ... and the Armenians at least had Bagramyan ...
          1. uranium
            uranium 18 October 2020 09: 22
            +5
            For more than 5 years, Azerbaijan has been armed with drones, it is not pilots to train, so the Turks are unlikely to participate in this.
        2. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 18 October 2020 10: 01
          +6
          Quote: 1976AG
          At least 10% of them can definitely fight. And this is already 200.

          where did you get the idea that they will rush there. They are generally citizens of the Russian Federation, why would they die for distant Karabakh ?! Have you read Stavera? They didn't move to Russia for that
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 18 October 2020 12: 21
            -2
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            Quote: 1976AG
            At least 10% of them can definitely fight. And this is already 200.

            where did you get the idea that they will rush there. They are generally citizens of the Russian Federation, why would they die for distant Karabakh ?! Have you read Stavera? They didn't move to Russia for that

            I said that they will rush there ??? Please read carefully.
            1. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 18 October 2020 13: 47
              +5
              Quote: 1976AG
              I said that they will rush there ??? Please read carefully.

              Well, you said that they could ... only the meaning of my post does not change - out of 200 thousand, only a few will go to fight - a simple statement of fact. hi
              1. 1976AG
                1976AG 18 October 2020 15: 53
                -2
                I said that if you want, you can go at least 200. Whether you want it or not, that's another question. There is no need to put an equal sign here and pass your thoughts off as mine.
        3. Alena-Baku
          Alena-Baku 18 October 2020 10: 11
          0
          When you say 2 million sounds menacing, but if it were Chechens, Ingush, Avars and other Caucasian peoples where warriors are children and old people, both men and women, I repeat Caucasian and not Transcaucasian. And so soon you will write about 5 million, there the Armenians are thinking how to jump off to Russia, mother whom they consider to be part of great Armenia. If we analyze the armies of Azerbaijan and Armenia for 27 years of truce, then it will be clear why Armenia is suffering defeat.
          Army of Armenia.
          The Armenian military was never a warrior. They are good conjurers from there and a large number of officers, by the way, was the case in the Soviet army. Not any work of the Army was not carried out except for the agitation that the Armenians were born warriors and there was no need to know that the Russians would fight in their place.
          Army of Azerbaijan
          The Azerbaijani army did not have such a mentality where pride does not allow a soldier to stand at attention even in front of a general. But defeat and loss of territories was a lesson. They began to sculpt the army from what there is, a huge budget, both official and not official, was poured into the army, officers were taught abroad, fighting with the mentality of the soldier, he did not have the right to serve almost at home as before, and obligatory service in a region other than his own Azerbaijanis and peoples who live in Azerbaijan are much brave and warlike than Armenians. As a result, we got a fairly efficient army.
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 18 October 2020 12: 24
            0
            Alena from Baku, if the Armenians are very bad fighters, then how did they manage to kick your ass in the 90s, so that for 30 years then you did not risk unleashing a war? You really fantasize more modestly. Or the Azerbaijani army was then a complete zero.
            1. Alena-Baku
              Alena-Baku 18 October 2020 13: 39
              +2
              Read carefully before writing an answer.
              1) The army of Azerbaijan never existed
              2) and there was no need to know that the Russians would fight them.
              And another tip, if you want to rip something, start at home with your wife so that you don't go to the left to Ashotik.
              1. 1976AG
                1976AG 18 October 2020 13: 56
                -2
                Quote: Alena-Baku
                Read carefully before writing an answer.
                1) The army of Azerbaijan never existed
                2) and there was no need to know that the Russians would fight them.
                And another tip, if you want to rip something, start at home with your wife so that you don't go to the left to Ashotik.

                You talk to your husband like that, but there is nothing to be rude here. Or is it scary with your husband? He is nearby, at once will teach the culture of speech.
            2. Nasdaq
              Nasdaq 18 October 2020 13: 44
              +2
              There were simply no oil billions before. They fought with iron on both sides. So we lost. And now, over the years of energy trading, tens of billions have been invested in the army, this is the result.
              As Aliyev said, the military budget of Azerbaijan is more than the entire budget of Armenia. And yes, and demography is not in favor of Armenia.
              In view of the above, it would be biased to say that the Armenians are bad wars, or that they are fighting worse than the enemy.
              I would say the opposite. Given the circumstances (an acute shortage of modern weapons), the Armenians are not bad at defending themselves. But the total superiority in modern weapons of the enemy makes itself felt.
              1. MTN
                MTN 18 October 2020 14: 14
                +3
                Quote: Nasdaq
                There were simply no oil billions before. They fought with iron on both sides. So we lost.

                Azerbaijan was not ready for war, half of that huge equipment did not work. A crisis. Power Struggle. Lack of officers, plus the Russians fought for the Armenians and once the Armenians wanted to fight, their ARABO grouping from and to the terminators, so they were destroyed by the Ganja battalion. They only had enough strength for the civilian population. We lost the battle, not the war. What they did in 5 years, we did in 2 years. Now you can see what kind of wars they are, when Russia is not around. So both the KGB and Gorbachev and Yeltsin are placing all their bets on the Armenians, even I am now writing, at the moment there is help from Russia. Equipment and ammunition, but as we can see, nothing helps them. There is a video with new trophies ... tanks and all that. THAT are what wars they are. )))) You have advertised the Armenians and their glorious spirit too much. It's not just that half of their nation has our names. They assimilated with us and not we with them, and this also speaks of that hu ish hu. And by the way, this is already the 3rd lesson of forcing the Armenians to peace for 5 years, moreover, in dry.

                https://video.azertag.az/ru/video/104651
              2. MTN
                MTN 18 October 2020 14: 21
                +4
                Quote: Nasdaq
                So we lost.

                While I was writing, the Azerbaijani army shot down another Armenian flying bucket drone.
                https://haqqin.az/news/191842

                Further 1 Su-25 and plus we hunt for their special forces.

                https://haqqin.az/news/191840
              3. VyacheSeymour
                VyacheSeymour 18 October 2020 17: 27
                -1
                There were simply no oil billions before. They fought with iron on both sides. So we lost. And now, over the years of energy trading, tens of billions have been invested in the army, this is the result.

                ... And how many Saudis, Emirates, Bahraini, Kuwaitis and ....- are investing in their armies ... -that's just the slippers, the Houthis are not aware of this.
            3. Homeland
              Homeland 18 October 2020 22: 34
              +1
              In the 90s, the Soviet 366th motorized rifle regiment, Pskov paratroopers, etc. fought with Azerbaijan. Yeltsin closed the border of Russia with Azerbaijan as a sign of solidarity with Armenia. What did you forget so quickly? And no Armenians are fighters. They are good at terrorizing unarmed civilians - they blow up subways, trains, buses, and that's it.
        4. Rubina
          Rubina 18 October 2020 15: 49
          +4
          The Armenian diaspora can send money, equipment and people. It's right. But this is not enough.
          1. It is necessary to train people to fight by the methods of war of the 21st century. While the Armenians will study, the Azerbaijani army will continue to study.
          2. Motivation. What is the motivation of the diaspora? Myths about Great Armenia? And the Azerbaijani army has a family behind its back. In addition, the Azerbaijani army is commanded by three generals, of whom two 15-year-old boys fled the occupied regions outside of Karabakh under bullets. Most of the officers in our army are from refugee families. A state-supported military school was often the only chance for people who had lost everything for a better life for the boy. Do you think they forgot how they were expelled?
  8. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 18 October 2020 08: 41
    15
    Russia should not interfere in this war. She is not our war, Russian and Buryat boys should not die for Armenian interests. Let the Armenians die for the Armenian interests, it is fair. Azerbaijan, unlike Armenia, did not pursue a Russophobic policy, Russia and Azerbaijan have no claims to each other, either territorial or economic, relations with Azerbaijan should not be spoiled.
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 18 October 2020 12: 19
      +1
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      Russia should not interfere in this war.
      This is true! But, it hurts a lot of promising threats from Turkey's position and intervention. If the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh (Armenia is a separate issue) and Azerbaijan are not our enemies, then it is absurd to kiss Turkey with passion. Especially against the background of statements on Crimea. This is the eternal enemy of Russia, which at any period of history has been and is under the patronage and influence of the West.
      And what happens? If Karabakh is the territory of Azerbaijan and the citizens of Azerbaijan formally live there, then Azerbaijan is waging a war against its own population. If this is not the case, then one would expect mass protests by the inhabitants of Karabakh against their occupation by Armenia. But, this is not!
      Therefore, the war must end and all issues must be resolved peacefully. Politicians have a lot of arrogance and ambitions, political elites are subject to transformation, and therefore there are such concepts as genocide, aggression, the right of nations and nationalities to self-determination in the UN Charter!
  9. ximkim
    ximkim 18 October 2020 08: 43
    +6
    Quote: 1976AG
    Quote: MTN
    Quote: Homeland
    Why can't it? In 20 days Azerbaijan liberated 2 out of 7 regions (Jebrail and Fizuli) plus Hadrut in Karabakh itself.

    + He took all the skyscrapers + left the separatists without air defense + without equipment. Armenia will have to recover for a very long time. They need more than BILLIONS + people. They don't do the wrong thing in a couple of years.

    Well, if they want, then both money and people will be very fast. 2 million Armenians live in Russia. At least 10% of them can definitely fight. And this is already 200. Not enough? Further. I think no one thinks that most Armenians in Russia work as janitors and plumbers. Their business is very sickly and if there is a desire, then they will find quite a lot of money. The only thing they cannot do quickly is learn how to fight.

    But there is one nuance, they don't really like to part with money ... So, the help from the diaspora will not be great .. request
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 18 October 2020 08: 52
      0
      And these are their problems.
  10. GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 18 October 2020 08: 44
    +2
    Armenia announced Azerbaijan's offensive on the border with Iran.
    1. Nychego
      Nychego 18 October 2020 09: 17
      -1
      Deep, but narrow - no matter how they got into the pot, if the Armenians have something to cut and hold the base of the breakthrough.
  11. Million
    Million 18 October 2020 09: 36
    +5
    Yes, let them fight! We should only prohibit entry to Russia from these states
  12. HaByxoDaBHocep
    HaByxoDaBHocep 18 October 2020 10: 12
    -1
    I see that the others are happy to die for the interests of the capitalists, well, good luck, Armenians and Azerbaijanis.
  13. Stavros
    Stavros 18 October 2020 10: 31
    -10 qualifying.
    Quote: 1976AG
    Until Azerbaijan rakes, it will not calm down.

    There is no more Azerbaijan, there is Ishilbaydjan.
  14. Victorm
    Victorm 18 October 2020 11: 30
    +3
    Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
    Armenia announced Azerbaijan's offensive on the border with Iran.

    No offensive and no "fierce battles" as in the case of Hadrut, real battles were for the heights, they ended there at this stage, Azerbaijan controls them. Then they just go and take positions that the Armenians left, or, if you like, fled, realizing that they simply become targets in the shooting range, plus with the risk of being surrounded.

    As you can see in the video, warriors are passing by. Then behind them are the border guards, who take control of the border with Iran.
  15. Victorm
    Victorm 18 October 2020 11: 53
    +1

    Fizuli region. Captured by the military unit of the occupation corps of the Armenian Armed Forces. Quite good trophies, well, LostArmor will now correct the statistics.

    Well, who is big-eyed, pay attention to one trophy related to artillery wink
  16. yehat2
    yehat2 18 October 2020 16: 05
    -1
    Quote: MTN
    and from whom will it scrape off? And How?

    everything is simple.
    The Azerbaijani economy is extremely tied to the sale of hydrocarbons and is not very healthy.
    For all our problems, things are much worse in Azerbaijan.
    Any budget disruption will lead to disaster, although a minor disaster is already happening.
    No wonder hundreds of thousands leave there for dubious promising earnings abroad (mainly in the Russian Federation).
    Preparing for this war, Azerbaijan spent gigantic money and this cannot but affect its domestic economy. It does not matter whether he wins from Armenia what he is trying to achieve by the war or not, these costs will hit the liver of the economy. And Aliyev, no less than Pashinyan, now risks losing power due to the discontent of his population, albeit a little later, when the impression of the war weakened.
    I do not believe that the Russian Federation is now capable of adequately punishing Azerbaijan, especially the UN. And no one else needs it. But Putin now has a very convenient opportunity to organize a Maidan in Azerbaijan if he wants.