France and Germany have decided on the first spending on the project of a joint promising tank MGCS

As part of the creation of a new promising joint main combat tank (MBT) MGCS (Main Ground Combat System) France and Germany in 2021 plan to allocate 200 million euros. This will reportedly allow the main contractors of the program to begin the assembly phase of the combat vehicle demonstrators.

The consortium created by Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (Germany) and Nexter systems (France) will begin construction of demonstrators of the main technical solutions next year. In total, plans are reported to build 14 demonstrators until 2024. In 2025, it is planned to create full-fledged prototypes, then the stage of testing and preparation for serial production will follow, which should begin no later than 2035.

Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (Germany), Nexter systems (France) and Rheinmetall (Germany) are working on the creation of a joint main battle tank (MBT) MGCS (Main Ground Combat System).

As previously reported, on April 28, 2020, Paris and Berlin signed two agreements under this program. The parties agreed to share the costs of creating a new tank in half, it was also agreed that both countries would receive "sufficient" intellectual property rights to the results of R&D under the program.

The Main Ground Combat System (MGCS) program is designed to create a new main tank to replace the German Leopard 2 and the French Leclerc. The arrival of new tanks in the army of both states is expected around 2035.

Comments

[Slon_on]

What are the concepts behind the creation of this tank?

[Thrifty]

Elephants - these concepts will change a hundred times as the cost of the first prototypes rises .

[Slon_on]

I, in fact, more on the nature of this article about theirs tank. Well, we concluded some kind of agreement on its creation and that they want to spend money on it. And that's all. Very informative

PS Chet remembered MBT 70. Yeah.

[Thrifty]

The Germans themselves could have developed and created a new tank. For any it will be cheap, there are all new ideas and technologies, so the price will initially be exorbitant.

[venik]

Quote: Thrifty

Anyway it will be cheap,

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You probably meant: "it will NOT be cheap"?

[ZEMCH]

As part of the creation of a new promising joint main battle tank (MBT) MGCS (Main Ground Combat System), France and Germany plan to allocate 2021 million euros in 200. This will reportedly allow the main contractors of the program to begin the assembly phase of the combat vehicle demonstrators.

New, it is always expensive))) Then they will choose who has a cooler demonstrator, argue for a long time, and .... they will make an Armata with a gun according to STANAG standards

[venik]

Quote: ZEMCH

New, it is always expensive))) Then they will choose who has a cooler demonstrator, argue for a long time, and .... they will make an Armata with a gun according to STANAG standards

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Considering the experience of previous "joint European" projects .... I am convinced that this is how it will be!
And I would like to add: not just "Armata", but creepy dear and creepy "fancy"" Armata "!

[ZEMCH]

I support)))

[Mavrikiy]

What is their joint tank project and what are the results?Swan, cancer and pike.

[venik]

Quote: Mavrikiy

What is their joint tank project and what are the results?Swan, cancer and pike.

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Usually this is exactly what happens in pan-European projects! Therefore, almost always, either the project bursts or one of the original participants "leaves" it!

[Bad_gr]

Quote: venik

Therefore, almost always, either the project bursts or one of the original participants "leaves" it!

Exactly. You don't have to go far for examples: Leopard and Abrams started with the same project, and then scattered in different directions.

[ficus2003]

They need to buy German tanks and spend the main money on various types of drones, as practice shows, their price / result is much higher. And also invest in new short- and medium-range air defense systems.

[DEVIL LIFE'S]

This is if preparing for a defensive war

[Avior]

The accelerated development of UAVs raises doubts that now it is possible to consider the basic requirements for a tank of the late 30s, that is, in 20 years.
Drones are evolving much faster.
The tank will become obsolete at the time of creation.
It is necessary to somehow provide for the possibility of extensive modernization of the tank, so that it remains relevant in production.
Or make simpler machines with shorter development and production cycle times

[Liam]

Protection of a tank from UAVs is achieved by preventing the drone from entering the battlefield, that is, by developing aviation and air defense, and not the tank itself.

[Alien From]

Let them gnaw, we have our own affairs in bulk!

[Lord of the Sith]

I wonder how much this balalaika will cost millions of euros?

[Gunther]

Quote: venik

Quote: ZEMCH

New, it is always expensive))) Then they will choose who has a cooler demonstrator, argue for a long time, and .... they will make an Armata with a gun according to STANAG standards

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Considering the experience of previous "joint European" projects .... I am convinced that this is how it will be!
And I would like to add: not just "Armata", but creepy dear and creepy "fancy"" Armata "!

I support, and it is necessary to take into account the mutual "love" and the history of "partnership" between Germany and France

[armored cat]

Once I heard it. No use