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Europe expects the United States to "punish" Turkey for the use of the S-400 air defense system in the exercises

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The foreign press is actively commenting on the first launch of the S-400 air defense missile system, which Turkey conducted in the format of exercises in the Black Sea region. We recall that Turkey is completing military exercises in the Sinop region today - October 17.


The Greek press is active in covering Turkish combat training. Greek portal Ekathimerini first draws attention to the American reaction. And what about the Turkish tests, said the United States?

State Department:

We have already said that the acquisition of the S-400 air defense system from Russia is unacceptable. We conveyed our concerns to the Turkish government. We also reported that there could be consequences for Turkey if it activates these complexes.

The statement of the US State Department spokesman Morgan Ortagus contains the word that Washington "strongly condemns the launch of the S-400 missile, as these actions are incompatible with Turkey's obligations as a NATO member and strategic partner of the United States."


Greek observers do not hide the fact that in the light of recent events they expect the US to take tough measures against Turkey and punish it for the fact that Ankara ignored "American concerns."

The tests of the S-400 in Turkey were also noticed in the Indian press. Indian experts note that if Turkey allowed itself to activate the anti-aircraft missile systems acquired from Russia, then India also needs to "take a philosophical attitude towards the American sanctions threats."

And the European press notes that if the US "does not punish Turkey for the use of the S-400, then in the future it will only stimulate other countries to make deals with Russia."
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  1. SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 17 October 2020 09: 25
    +8
    Europe expects the United States to "punish" Turkey for the use of the S-400 air defense system in the exercises

    Everyone tensed in anticipation: what will the United States do? Will Erdogan get off with tomatoes here too?
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 17 October 2020 10: 13
      +3
      Bomb! Bomb immediately!
      1. Shuttle
        Shuttle 17 October 2020 10: 19
        +1
        Quote: Pereira
        Bomb! Bomb immediately!

        Bomb without waiting for peritonitis!
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 17 October 2020 10: 32
          0
          Shuttle-So there the whole Europe is "bombed" by the fact of this rocket launch! lol
        2. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 17 October 2020 11: 17
          +2
          Quote: Shuttle
          Bomb without waiting for peritonitis!

          what for? they have Gyullein ... recognize him as president and let the Turks fall into civil agony
      2. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 17 October 2020 10: 57
        0
        According to CAATSA, there are sensitive sanctions ..... Only the Americans, for some reason, have never applied them. They only threatened and found exceptions in them. Until one country is exemplarily punished, there will be no order.
        1. kit88
          kit88 17 October 2020 20: 09
          +8
          And nobody is confused by the term "punish" itself, which has recently come into use in relation to a sovereign state?
        2. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 17 October 2020 22: 16
          0
          Quote: Zaurbek
          Until one country is exemplarily punished, there will be no order.

          laughing laughing laughing Funny, damn it ... Stars and Stripes rabble and order. fellow
      3. venik
        venik 17 October 2020 11: 38
        +2
        Quote: Pereira
        Bomb! Bomb immediately!

        ========
        What are you !? And these terrible S-400s? What if they start shooting down? They have long lost the habit of this! No no! Don't bomb! Better "Tomahawks"! Only "Tomahawks"! And from afar!
        laughing lol
    2. Maz
      Maz 17 October 2020 11: 01
      +5
      All three targets have been hit ... Erdogan reminded the United States and Europe that he can now shoot down any aircraft of NATO countries, be it an aircraft, a missile or a helicopter with a heavy attack drone such as Raptor or Global, if it starts its own freaks without his permission in the sky over Turkey and especially over the residence of the tomato sultan himself. And he still understands. He insured himself after an attempted military coup. It is a pity that I forgot who saved him, I would remind, like Lukashenka, that the debt payment is red.
  2. taiga2018
    taiga2018 17 October 2020 09: 30
    +7
    In my opinion, for Russia in any case it will be a plus. If they are punished, really punished, let's say so perceptibly, then it is high time to rein in this too arrogant Erdogan, and if they do not punish them, they will "stimulate other countries to make deals with Russia."
  3. mark2
    mark2 17 October 2020 09: 33
    +9
    All of Europe strained the rolls, waiting for Turkey to plant the most tomatoes
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 17 October 2020 09: 50
      +3
      Quote: mark2
      All of Europe strained the rolls, waiting for Turkey to plant the most tomatoes

      It will take a long time to edit. Until elections are held there, until the protesters are dealt with, Turkey can sleep peacefully
      1. venik
        venik 17 October 2020 11: 47
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        It will take a long time to edit. Until elections are held there, until the protesters are dealt with, Turkey can sleep peacefully

        ========
        It looks like Erdagan has seriously decided to try the States "by the teeth"! And he chose a very good moment for this - they have no time for it now! It looks like he can get off with "verbal threats" and "waving his fists"! Let's see how this test of the States "for lice" ends for him ...
    2. RealPilot
      RealPilot 17 October 2020 14: 53
      0
      Quote: mark2
      All of Europe strained the rolls, waiting for Turkey to plant the most tomatoes

      And Trump will come out all "in leather", take out the whip ... And punish the protiviivny Sultan am repeat belay
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 17 October 2020 09: 40
    +1
    No figs to fly in the skies of Turkey .. But we bow to Erdogan's feet for permission to fly. The Sultan is smarter than all Merkelels and macrons. drinks
  5. iouris
    iouris 17 October 2020 09: 43
    0
    This is all complete nonsense until Turkey withdrew from NATO. Erdogan directed his ebullient energy to the South (Russia).
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 17 October 2020 10: 19
      +2
      Something in Sochi, I did not notice his energy, except for Turkish cafes on the embankments. Are Armenia and Azerbaijan Russia? hi
      1. iouris
        iouris 17 October 2020 11: 00
        -2
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Are Armenia and Azerbaijan Russia?

        Yes. Together with the RF.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 17 October 2020 11: 09
          +2
          How Pashinyan came to power, on Russophobia. He removed all the heroes of Karabakh from power. I thought it would rain from the United States. But it’s like. A complete vacuum. She is such a policy. My personal opinion is not any peacekeepers from Russian boys. Let them fight to the last. tank. hi
    2. SSR
      SSR 17 October 2020 10: 28
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      Erdogan directed his ebullient energy to the South (Russia).

      Or maybe this is a deal? We are silent about the NKR and they help to destroy the 404? wassat
      1. SSR
        SSR 17 October 2020 10: 34
        +1
        Quote: iouris
        This is all complete nonsense until Turkey withdrew from NATO.

        Why would a Trojan leave NATO? A mole in NATO is a plus.
        And since the GDP, according to personal agreements, is very principled, Pashinyan got caught and Erdogan must remember that he is in debt.
      2. iouris
        iouris 17 October 2020 11: 03
        0
        I know nothing about secret agreements (like you). So far, I can state: they are "falling apart", and "we" are watching. We have no arguments. "What is your evidence?"
    3. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 17 October 2020 10: 58
      +1
      It is easier to be in NATO and channel the seething energy than not to have NATO behind and channel it.
    4. venik
      venik 17 October 2020 11: 56
      0
      Quote: iouris
      This is all complete nonsense until Turkey withdrew from NATO

      =======
      It does not come out until it comes out, but the "partners" in NATO are annoying more and more! No wonder they (Turkey) were not accepted in the EU, and they are not going to accept it! Why do they need this obstinate "member" who does not obey anyone and does what he wants?
      1. ZEMCH
        ZEMCH 17 October 2020 13: 49
        +2
        Quote: venik
        Why would they have such an obstinate "member" who does not obey anyone and does what he wants?

        And Poland is enough for them, so far only the promised sanctions for violation of the independence of the courts. The Turks show everyone that the king is naked.
        We are waiting for how the States will react, they do not like when they are publicly humiliated
      2. iouris
        iouris 17 October 2020 18: 17
        0
        Quote: venik
        It does not come out until it comes out, but the "partners" in NATO are annoying more and more!

        There is only one "partner" - the United States. The rest are "freeloaders". You never know who doesn't like something. Let them stand on the sidelines. Before our eyes, a grandiose geopolitical combination is unfolding, in which the presidents are not playing their game. Erdogan is a joker, a geopolitical "katala".
  6. Spike Javelin Touvich
    Spike Javelin Touvich 17 October 2020 09: 55
    -6
    Who said that Poland is the hyenna of Europe? !!!! ----- he was wrong
    Greece is exactly the hyenna of Europe
    Neither the economy, nor a clear political position, and besides, on subsidies from the rest of the EU members
    1. iouris
      iouris 17 October 2020 11: 05
      -2
      Quote: Spike Javelin Touvich
      Poland hyenna of europe

      I repeat (again): "Poland is the hyena of Europe."
  7. APASUS
    APASUS 17 October 2020 09: 56
    +3
    And the European press notes that if the United States “does not punish Turkey for the use of the S-400, then in the future it will only stimulate other countries to make deals with Russia.

    On the other hand, even those who were not going to buy it will pay attention to this complex, in order to find out what is so afraid of in NATO.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 17 October 2020 10: 21
      0
      The information who launched the targets is worth a lot!
  8. Sinner
    Sinner 17 October 2020 10: 00
    0
    How did the tests go? Did the missile hit the target?
    1. Vladimir_6
      Vladimir_6 17 October 2020 10: 13
      +2
      Quote: Sinner
      How did the tests go? Did the missile hit the target?

      Successfully. Three rockets fired hit their targets.
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 17 October 2020 10: 22
      -1
      Three targets, three missiles. 100% it won't be like that in war.
      1. Vladimir_6
        Vladimir_6 17 October 2020 10: 36
        +4
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Three targets, three missiles. 100% it won't be like that in war.

        In war, as in war, everything cannot be foreseen. At the moment we are talking about the test.
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 17 October 2020 10: 36
        +2
        There are no such air defense systems that 1 to 1, this is reality.
        Teachings are different, you can create such conditions, more abruptly than even in reality it can be, then all indicators will drop sharply ... no one does that, why?
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 17 October 2020 10: 55
          +1
          I am not an air defense nickname, just a signalman, in 82 I squeezed out of my radio station everything I could and even more. But the task worked perfectly, the commander gave a vacation right at the post
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 17 October 2020 11: 09
            +2
            Well, remember the urgent one ... what signs were assigned for skill and so on, 3 k, 2 k, 1 k, and there was also M !!! So, it was always difficult to compete with someone whose M was always difficult, and when he was appropriated himself, immediately on VACATION ..... at when the situation allowed.
            So, the calculation in which all have Ms could often give 1 to 1, but the technique was not so clever then !!!
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 17 October 2020 11: 31
              +2
              The coolest thing, three vacations for the service, but never sezdil. There was no substitution. Even from the comrades of officers. The network was just silence for a week. And then in one minute it would be so much that sometimes a partner from a neighboring network helped. It's not physically possible to keep in touch. But it was beautiful. Communication with Moscow at any time of the day, shoulder straps at the post. The beginning of communication trusted us, always protected. When we do everything, such relaxation. hi
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 17 October 2020 11: 53
                +1
                In general, that vacation, this serious encouragement was, then.
                We didn’t have such an opportunity, it was very far to get there. On the other hand .... how young we were, where ours "had not been"! where we were not, at all.
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 17 October 2020 13: 05
                  +2
                  In a year I serve the second walk, the city of Halle. Professionalism reached madness. After the army, I read Morse code for 5 years in any conditions. Cinema, FE 202, work at sea. hi
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 17 October 2020 13: 16
                    +1
                    Western group of troops ... and not at home, in general, but everything is familiar, except for the language.
                    We had to learn local Spanish ... however, quite a few local military spoke Russian.
                    For the rest, exotic for an average Russian guy.
                    1. tralflot1832
                      tralflot1832 17 October 2020 13: 47
                      +1
                      This is definitely exotic. I went to serve from the fishing fleet. Surprising for me. Western group of troops. Angola, but it’s like Portuguese. And wherever we have not been.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 17 October 2020 13: 49
                        0
                        In the other hemisphere, the Spaniards discovered a lot of things, dominated for a long time!
                      2. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 17 October 2020 14: 15
                        +1
                        Here I am stupid. Cuba is far away. Cuba is nearby. How many times Dyutik sat down in Havana.
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 17 October 2020 14: 45
                        +1
                        Ha, we were in Cuba, no questions.
                        We rested there !!!
                      4. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 17 October 2020 14: 56
                        0
                        There is only Nicaragua left, if only Cuba is a sanatorium for recreation.
                      5. rocket757
                        rocket757 17 October 2020 15: 13
                        0
                        We WERE NOT there, never at all!
                        Oh yes, and who are Sandino and Farabundo Marty ...
                        Okay, these are all open secret.
                        The USSR simply helped or responded to the dirty tricks that the Yankees arranged for our country ... and we were just cogs of a huge, powerful mechanism.
                      6. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 17 October 2020 15: 20
                        +1
                        Yes, you were never there. Only the Western Group of Forces was on the military card. Cool, I believe. I had a familiar order bearer. drinks
                      7. rocket757
                        rocket757 17 October 2020 15: 32
                        +1
                        Ha, in the military ID Moscow *****. This is normal.
                        We have this family ... Grandfather, Father and I were not there somewhere.
                        Although my grandfather has a noticeable reward, he was still there. A real colonel.
                      8. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 17 October 2020 16: 00
                        +1
                        That's how they took it. How many filters have you passed!
                      9. rocket757
                        rocket757 17 October 2020 18: 24
                        +1
                        Everything is simple, I was not involved, I did what I was supposed to do, there are no special signs .... specific education. Vernyak that Grandpa had a hand in this .... in general, from the very beginning, a fraction of such and such was assigned to the team.
                        By the way, we had a lot of guys from military families, most of them with education ... because the team was of age, i.e. There were no 18 year olds at all.
                        Then it was.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 October 2020 10: 10
    0
    Europe expects the US to "punish" Turkey
    Be sure to punish and do not forget to put in a corner. And also call the parents and have a conversation with them. Is Europe the weakest? Could, as NATO members, raise this issue, but obviously scared, tk. a new stream of refugees may pour out of Turkey.
  • Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 17 October 2020 10: 11
    +1
    The statement of the US State Department spokesman Morgan Ortagus contains the word that Washington "strongly condemns the launch of the S-400 missile, as these actions are incompatible with Turkey's obligations as a NATO member and strategic partner of the United States."

    The strategic partner showed that he purchased the S-400 not for the museum.
    And the European press notes that if the US "does not punish Turkey for the use of the S-400, then in the future it will only stimulate other countries to make deals with Russia."

    Against the backdrop of successful tests in Turkey, the glory of the American Patriot fades. This will further stimulate other countries to make deals with Russia "
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 17 October 2020 10: 24
      +1
      Petriot is not all foreshortened. Minus to penguins.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 17 October 2020 10: 30
    +1
    The Yankees are stubborn guys, but the Sultan was specific. She won't give up her plans for nothing.
  • Old26
    Old26 17 October 2020 10: 35
    +1
    Quote: tralflot1832
    No figs to fly in the skies of Turkey .. But we bow to Erdogan's feet for permission to fly. The Sultan is smarter than all Merkelels and macrons. drinks

    Besides, as they say, "there is nothing to blame the mirror if the face is crooked." Europe in general and NATO in particular are to blame for the fact that Turkey has become unmanageable for them. For 20 years, if not more, they have been leading Turkey by the nose with EU accession. Everyone has already been accepted, including the Baltic dwarfs, and Turkey always finds reasons not to allow them to join. And now they are also outraged by Turkey's "independence"
  • Alien From
    Alien From 17 October 2020 10: 49
    0
    Erdogan will finish badly this time ...
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 17 October 2020 11: 01
      0
      Will not finish badly. The Armenians and Azerbaijanis are doing well. Some have a large population and money, and in quarantine it is necessary to somehow take everyone ... others have spoiled relations with the Russian Federation and problems in the Armenian community itself. Plus - the Russian Federation has problems with admission to this theater. Georgia. And without access, the Russian Federation will not be able to do anything serious there.
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 17 October 2020 11: 08
        0
        He will finish playing with the striped ones.
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 17 October 2020 11: 10
          0
          Striped Turkey is needed as a place ..... Derbanit, as Libya will not. Change the leader ...
          1. Alien From
            Alien From 17 October 2020 11: 11
            0
            Yes, yes, it was meant hi
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 17 October 2020 11: 38
    -2
    The statement of the US State Department spokesman Morgan Ortagus contains the word that Washington "strongly condemns the launch of the S-400 missile, as these actions are incompatible with Turkey's obligations as a NATO member and strategic partner of the United States."
    Let's see what they forbid the Turks. laughing In the meantime, only "concern".
  • woyt.69
    woyt.69 17 October 2020 14: 04
    0
    And Russia is to blame, to whom they sold it, apparently some official ran out of dollars.