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Chechen or Algerian: in France, they find out the identity of the terrorist who beheaded the teacher

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The French media spread a statement that the terrorist who attacked the teacher in the vicinity of Paris was probably from Chechnya. It is noted that this is indirectly confirmed by his nickname Tchetchene_270.


We are talking about an 18-year-old resident of France, who is suspected of committing a terrorist attack. Having attacked one of the local educators, the offender cut off his head and posted a scary picture on his Twitter page. In a microblog, he turned to French President Emmanuel Macron, stating that "he executed the hellish dog, who dared to humiliate the Prophet Muhammad." At the same time, the criminal called Macron himself "the ruler of the infidels" on Twitter.

The Tchetchene_270 account is currently blocked.

The attack was carried out after the teacher showed cartoons of the prophet in one of the lessons.

It is known that the terrorist could be 18-year-old Abdulak A., who, as stated, “could have been born in Moscow”.

At the same time, the French press says that this person was already in the field of vision of the special services, as "related to radical movements."

Earlier, Macron, commenting on the crime, said that the French teacher "died for freedom and tolerance."

It is noteworthy that earlier information appeared in the French press that the teacher was killed by a 48-year-old native of Algeria - the father of one of the students, and Tchetchene_270 simply decided to "get PR".

Meanwhile, a policy of tolerance towards migrants is being discussed in France. It was noted that radicals of all stripes have arrived and continue to arrive in the country, many of whom are subsequently ready to commit crimes, including terrorist attacks.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 17 October 2020 06: 52
    18
    France survived ... in the middle of the day, in the city, in full view of everyone, radical Islamists cut off a person's head ... I never thought that tolerance in France could reach such ... horror.
    Earlier, Macron, commenting on the crime, said that the French teacher "died for freedom and tolerance."

    Macron blurted out again, not realizing that it was tolerance that caused this crime ... when moral restrictions inside a person are removed, thanks to this, he allows himself to do such terrible deeds to his neighbor ... freedom should also have some kind of framework that cannot be exceeded.
    1. smart ass
      smart ass 17 October 2020 07: 02
      -43 qualifying.
      He did the right thing, there is nothing to offend the feelings of believers.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 17 October 2020 07: 07
        30
        Vasya ... belay here you are now insulting someone with your comment, and the offended one will take and cut off your head ... well, you can't do that.
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 17 October 2020 07: 25
          -33 qualifying.
          Imagine a picture of a child from an early age who is brought up with a fanatical faith in the canons of Islam and then a lousy rag spreads caricatures that offend him. The question is why? Why can't we just respect the faith of all people?
          1. Vita vko
            Vita vko 17 October 2020 07: 57
            12
            Quote: Clever man
            early years brought up with a fanatical faith

            Fanaticism, especially religious very present evil with which to fight. Europe has suffered the most from the genocide of fanatics. First it was the Christian Inquisition, then Hitler. It is only natural that any normal person will not tolerate new Islamic fanatics. And you need to fight not with 18 boys, but with their parents, and as hard as possible.
            1. taiga2018
              taiga2018 17 October 2020 08: 55
              0
              Quote: Vita VKO
              Fanaticism, especially religious, the most real evil

              That is, liberal fanaticism is not evil?
              Quote: Vita VKO
              First it was the Christian Inquisition, then Hitler.

              What does this have to do with religious fanaticism and Hitler, or is it such a habit to weave evil everywhere with Nazism?
              1. Vita vko
                Vita vko 17 October 2020 12: 30
                +3
                Quote: taiga2018
                braid Nazism

                the difference between nationalism and Nazism lies precisely in the presence in the latter of fanatics who put themselves above the lives of others on the basis of national characteristics. Moreover, the signs on the basis of which a group of people puts themselves above the rest can be not only racial or religious, it can be financial, political, and tribal. Those. there are more than enough features to stand out in a separate group for any person. But all this does not pose a threat to others until they appear in this environment. fanatics.
                1. hhhhhhh
                  hhhhhhh 18 October 2020 12: 40
                  +1
                  Fanatics "the difference between nationalism and Nazism" is also very much. They fanatically whitewash Nazism or nationalism, depending on the turn in the brain.
                  1. Vita vko
                    Vita vko 18 October 2020 12: 45
                    0
                    Quote: hhhhhhh
                    They fanatically whitewash Nazism or nationalism, depending on the turn in the brain

                    You are right, therefore, in most cases, fanaticism and mental illness such as schizophrenia or Down syndrome are always close by.
                    1. hhhhhhh
                      hhhhhhh 18 October 2020 12: 50
                      +1
                      Down syndrome is genetics and from birth.
                      Human stupidity is acquired.
                      It was not fanatics who sent Jews to the camps.
                      In the Baltic States and in Ukraine, Chukhonts are not allowed to speak Russian by fanatics.
                      1. Vita vko
                        Vita vko 18 October 2020 13: 05
                        0
                        Quote: hhhhhhh
                        In the Baltic States and in Ukraine, Chukhonts are not allowed to speak Russian by fanatics.

                        Psychological operations developed by Goebbels for several years can turn any people not only into fanatics, but also schizophrenics with a complete lack of critical thinking to the fact that the local authorities flood their ears. Moreover, it has long been proven that these mental deformations are easily transmitted and amplified from generation to generation. That is why, having released from the camps and amnesty the Banderaites, Khrushchev created conditions for universal hatred of everything Russian in western Ukraine. It was dangerous for the Russians even in Soviet times.
                      2. hhhhhhh
                        hhhhhhh 18 October 2020 15: 56
                        0
                        For 30-40 years I have been treating us first with very beautiful capitalism, now with correct liberalism. Why does it seem to you that you are not an anti-Soviet fanatic?
                        "created the conditions for universal hatred of everything Russian in western Ukraine. It was dangerous for Russians even in Soviet times." - the purest water fiction and lies. You are still in Grozny, tell me it was dangerous to live for Russians in Soviet times
            2. Garris199
              Garris199 17 October 2020 16: 28
              +1
              What's the difference? Idols are just different, and that's all.
          2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 18 October 2020 00: 09
            -2
            Quote: Vita VKO
            christian inquisition

            Catholic.
            Do not dirty all Christians in this.
        2. mongol9999
          mongol9999 17 October 2020 08: 40
          10
          Try to respect not the faith of people, but just people. Many problems are removed.
          1. blackice
            blackice 18 October 2020 02: 48
            +4
            There is an article: insulting the feelings of believers (Article 148 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation)
            No article: insulting the feelings of atheists.
            In the laws themselves, at least in Russia, inequality of people in society is spelled out. That is, the state itself compels not to love people.
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 18 October 2020 08: 46
              -3
              Quote: blackice
              No article: insulting the feelings of atheists
              Atheism is a kind of belief: belief in the absence of God. If someone publicly mocks atheists, he will be attracted under the same article. Therefore, your hostile conclusion about the "inequality prescribed in the laws" is sucked out of your dirty finger by you (at best).
              1. Jager
                Jager 18 October 2020 16: 16
                0
                It's funny to hear such game about God and other opium for the people in the XXI century ...
          2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 18 October 2020 17: 00
            0
            This is an ordinary troll doing flat, classic trolling.
            As a result of his fast, you should have (or once again be confirmed and strengthened) the impression that any religion approves of cutting off the heads of its opponents.
        3. Moskovit
          Moskovit 17 October 2020 08: 43
          +7
          Did you know this "child"? How was he brought up? If everyone begins to cut off their heads for offended feelings, there will be no people left.
          1. comradChe
            comradChe 17 October 2020 09: 22
            -6
            If everyone begins to cut off their heads for offended feelings, there will be no people left.

            There will be fewer fools.
            1. Moskovit
              Moskovit 17 October 2020 09: 52
              +6
              Didn't you think you might be one of them? It will seem to someone that you have offended him
              1. Alf
                Alf 17 October 2020 18: 45
                +6
                Quote: Moskovit
                Didn't you think you might be one of them? It will seem to someone that you have offended him

                For example, your spouse will walk next to you without a burqa.
        4. taiga2018
          taiga2018 17 October 2020 09: 05
          +4
          Quote: Clever man
          Why can't we just respect the faith of all people?

          But because in the West there are very few topics that can be joked about without any consequences. Try to joke there on the topic of any perverts, they will immediately be accused of homophobia, jokes about women are sexism, jokes about skin color are racism. Someone will say how There are no consequences for caricatures of the prophet, heads are cut off, or shot. But there is no wide public condemnation, so there are such fanatics who decide in such a cruel way to stop the jokers.
        5. Rzzz
          Rzzz 17 October 2020 09: 20
          +1
          Quote: Clever man
          Why can't we just respect the faith of all people?

          Because we are not talking about faith, but about religion, I hope it is clear that these are different things.
          Well, there are many people in the world. And very often it turns out that the religion of some people offends the religion of other people.
          The situation is aggravated by the fact that the governments of some countries use religion to control the population, so there these motives of intolerance are more pronounced.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 17 October 2020 17: 49
            0
            Quote: rzzz
            Because we are not talking about faith, but about religion, I hope it is clear that these are different things.

            Why are they different?
            1. Rzzz
              Rzzz 17 October 2020 23: 49
              +1
              I will not dare to explain these elementary truths to you, because I am afraid to run into accusations of "offending the feelings of someone." Try to understand yourself.
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 18 October 2020 12: 33
                +1
                Quote: rzzz
                I will not dare to explain these elementary truths to you, because I am afraid to run into an accusation of "insulting the feelings of someone

                The French teacher took a chance, the result is instructive.
                1. Rzzz
                  Rzzz 18 October 2020 20: 29
                  +1
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  The French teacher took a chance

                  No, it's different. Their mentality is based on the absence of any artificial ideals. They can equally freely draw caricatures of any religious symbols, governments and presidents. There is a completely secular state. They do not protect the feelings of people who call themselves "believers" because it gives an advantage over other people. Feelings of unbelievers that should not be protected? There, the state will not prosecute if a president is drawn in the newspaper. Well, this is such a specific freedom of speech in this country, and to be honest, I even like it.
                  But savages came and vulgarized everything. Now a much more developed society is forced to live by the laws of a thousand years ago. Naturally, there will be a conflict.
                  1. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 18 October 2020 23: 58
                    0
                    Quote: rzzz
                    There is a completely secular state. They do not protect the feelings of people who call themselves "believers"

                    They defend the rights of homosexuals. This not normal. They are weak.
                    Quote: rzzz
                    Naturally, there will be a conflict.

                    The weak will lose the conflict.
                    There is no faith, nothing to fight for. What can a non-believer believe in ?! He has no faith ... request
                    Quote: rzzz
                    Now a much more developed society is forced to live by the laws of a thousand years ago.

                    What other "more developed society" ?!
                    In this "thousand years ago" there were already both "ancient greece" and "ancient rome". They all fell thousands of years ago under the weight of their unbelief and vile vices. History is cyclical and, alternatively, the gifted do not want to learn not from other people's mistakes, not from their own. So it’s their turn to go to the dustbin of history. hi
          2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 18 October 2020 00: 13
            +1
            Quote: rzzz
            Because we are not talking about faith, but about religion, I hope it is clear that these are different things

            No
        6. alexmach
          alexmach 17 October 2020 11: 31
          +4
          Why can't we just respect the faith of all people?

          Respect is a two-way street. If believers are displaying ideological aggression against the rest of society, it shouldn't be surprising that society responds in kind. If believers are prone to physical aggression, treat them in the same way that they do with other criminals. At the same time, to act proactively tracking and suppressing the most harmful currents.
        7. Alf
          Alf 17 October 2020 18: 43
          +3
          Quote: Clever man
          Imagine a picture of a child from an early age who is brought up with a fanatical faith in the canons of Islam and then a lousy rag spreads caricatures that offend him. The question is why? Why can't we just respect the faith of all people?

          Isn't there an article in the French Criminal Code about insulting the feelings of believers? Why will I immediately "overreact"? And what would happen if a French teacher stabbed some unfortunate refugee to death? What high would go up right away?
        8. blackice
          blackice 18 October 2020 02: 44
          +3
          There is a saying: Do not go with your charter to a foreign monastery.
          in their homeland, Islamic extremists can destroy each other at least without exception, this is their business. But if he came to a country where it is customary to hammer in o4ko, then bear with it, you were not dragged there by force.
        9. blackice
          blackice 18 October 2020 02: 57
          +3
          Why can't we just respect the faith of all people?

          Why is it necessary to respect someone's faith, but not respect the people themselves?
          I was born and raised in the USSR.
          In that country there was no religion and people were respected for their age, for being a worker, for raising good children, that is, for human qualities, and not for whom he worships.
          I'm an atheist. But according to the law, my rights to the fact that I am not religious are not protected by the state, but believers, yes, there is a whole article in the Criminal Code with vague concepts of public insults.
          That is, the state itself gives carte blanche for believers.
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 18 October 2020 08: 03
            0
            Quote: blackice
            Why is it necessary to respect someone's faith, but not respect the people themselves?

            How then to get on the backs of fellow tribesmen? How then to rob fellow citizens? Send them to wars for the sake of their selfish interests?
            1. blackice
              blackice 18 October 2020 08: 20
              0
              Well, yes.
              Grandfather Lenin said correctly: the state should not care about religion, religious societies should not be associated with state power. Everyone should be absolutely free to profess any religion or not to recognize any religion, that is, to be an atheist, which is what every socialist usually is. No differences between citizens in their rights depending on religious beliefs are completely unacceptable. Any even mention of a particular religion of citizens in official documents must be undoubtedly destroyed. There should be no issuance of the state church, no issuance of state funds to church and religious societies, which must become completely free, unions of like-minded citizens independent of the government.
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey 18 October 2020 08: 31
                0
                Quote: blackice
                Grandpa Lenin spoke correctly

                He not only "spoke" correctly ....
        10. paul3390
          paul3390 18 October 2020 09: 57
          +4
          Because respect is always a two-way process. That's when in the countries of Islam they begin to respect other people's beliefs and cultures, in particular Christian ones - then we'll talk. And then, for example, to make a mosque from the greatest Orthodox cathedral and then demand respect from Christians is somehow not very logical .. In the meantime, as they treat us, so we should act in relation to them. Enough of this Tolstoyan tolerance !!
        11. Jager
          Jager 18 October 2020 16: 14
          0
          I wonder if a person was brought up in the spirit of atheism, and then fanatics cut their heads? And stabbing began in the wonderful traditions of the Crusades ...
        12. Rzzz
          Rzzz 20 October 2020 01: 50
          +1
          Quote: Clever man
          Why can't we just respect the faith of all people?

          Faith is a kind of relationship between a specific person and a higher power. All this higher power is understood in different ways. Someone in the form of "god", someone else as. But whatever it was, it is impossible to offend a person in principle.
          You can offend dogmas artificially invented and embedded in people in order to control them. This is called "religion". Naturally, the lower the level of development of society, the more dogmas must be put into the brain, otherwise there is no way. Therefore, France, as probably the most developed society in the world, has long left religion in the background. And he successfully lives with it, they don't need any religions. They can draw a caricature on anyone, and on any god, and a prophet, and even any president, incl. and his own. Well, this is a feature of the national mentality. They passed the stage of cutting off their heads a thousand years ago, and I think they will not want to go back to the past.
      2. smart ass
        smart ass 17 October 2020 07: 26
        -25 qualifying.
        And what do you say if cartoons of your mother in unsightly poses appear in the newspaper?
        1. Jager
          Jager 18 October 2020 16: 20
          0
          Nick "Clever", but the mind was only enough for a nick ...
      3. Blacksmith 55
        Blacksmith 55 17 October 2020 08: 51
        +4
        Charlie Hebdo is the name of the magazine that first published the cartoons.
        I am a Christian, and if someone laughs or mocks at Christian values, I will not like it. An example is the Pussy Wright group, who staged their "concert" on the altar. Also a type of freedom of speech and action.
        But I am not a radical either, I will not go as far as the Muslims.
        It's just that this magazine itself is guilty, under the pretext of "freedom of speech" it does what it wants, offends the feelings of believers. Respect for another religion should be mutual.
        1. Simple
          Simple 17 October 2020 11: 43
          0
          Quote: Blacksmith 55
          It's just that this magazine itself is guilty, under the pretext of "freedom of speech" it does what it wants, offends the feelings of believers.



          Now in the FRG for another "trick" they took up: During the elections, one satirist party (there are some) hangs out posters with the inscription: "Nazi töten". An obvious provocation. Since if this party wanted to convey this slogan to people as an explanation that the Nazis can kill, they would deliberately distance themselves from the call for violence, and in its radical form - murder: "kill the Nazi"
          or "A Nazi could hang here."

          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 18 October 2020 00: 15
            0
            Quote: Simple
            A Nazi could hang here

            Amusingly
          2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 18 October 2020 00: 31
            +1
            Quote: Simple
            An obvious provocation. Since if this party wanted to convey this slogan to people as an explanation that the Nazis can kill, they would deliberately distance themselves from the call for violence, and in its radical form - murder: "kill the Nazi"

            And don't say. They lost their completely human appearance. How can you do this with the Nazis? A little more and they will skate to these Russians, with them:

            "Get up, the country is huge,
            Get up to the mortal battle.
            With the fascist force of the dark,
            With the cursed horde.
            May the fury be noble
            Boils like a wave
            There is a people's war,
            Holy war <...> "
            1. Simple
              Simple 23 October 2020 16: 29
              -1
              It will be funny when one or more individuals will cut. hang. beat to death (well, as the poster says)
              anyone they think is Nazis.
              1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                Boris ⁣ Shaver 23 October 2020 21: 16
                0
                Quote: Simple
                who will they consider Nazis

                About the point of view - this is the liberals.
                We have the truth. Without any "count". And if someone is a Nazi, then he has no place on earth.
                1. Simple
                  Simple 23 October 2020 21: 22
                  0
                  Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                  About points of view - this is for the liberals

                  This expression will work well to express condolences to the family and friends of the murdered.

                  The Nazis ended in World War II. That is the provocation - where does anyone see the Nazis in the FRG?
                  1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                    Boris ⁣ Shaver 23 October 2020 21: 29
                    0
                    Quote: Simple
                    This expression will work well to express condolences to the family and friends of the murdered.

                    What condolences?

                    Quote: Simple
                    Nazis ended in World War II

                    What did you learn at school?
                    1. Simple
                      Simple 23 October 2020 21: 39
                      0
                      Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                      What condolences?


                      You now think in the stereotypes of the Second World War.
                      I will not point to Russian neo-nationalists, otherwise you will have to kind of keep your words
                      it means he has no place on earth.
                      - Will you perform it yourself?

                      The time is not military. The death sentence was canceled both in Russia and the Federal Republic of Germany long ago, if you are not comfortable.

                      Once again, please note that these posters call for violence among citizens.
                    2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                      Boris ⁣ Shaver 24 October 2020 01: 06
                      0
                      Quote: Simple
                      You are now thinking in the stereotypes of the second world war

                      You speak as if it is something bad. You obviously do not understand the meaning of the words you are using, as it happens when a person expresses other people's thoughts, thoughtlessly in the proper way with his own head. Not considered for various reasons: sometimes - due to the limited capabilities of the intellect; sometimes - just out of an irrational desire to believe in these thoughts; sometimes - due to a lack of time to process the flow of information that was once poured on him (one of the techniques of the once popular hat called NLP); often - for a combination of several of these or other reasons.

                      A stereotype is just the ability of the brain to fix the same type of changes in the external environment and respond to them accordingly. Thus, the stereotype is, in essence, empirical knowledge. All natural sciences, for example, are built on empirical laws. Empirical laws help a person to live and just in everyday life. For example, your knowledge that you should not touch a kettle boiling on the stove with your bare hands - at first it was a pure stereotype. It was later that you studied the laws of thermodynamics at school, learned that you are composed of proteins, and found out at what temperature these proteins fold or collapse - using this knowledge, you were able to turn purely empirical knowledge about a hot teapot (your stereotype) into a more rigorous knowledge - deterministic. But if it were not for your stereotype, then you would not have survived until the moment when knowledge passed from the empirical phase to the deterministic one.

                      Summing up. Stereotyping is an amazing and much needed ability in our (and not only our) brain. The main thing here is to determine the real degree of dependence of certain consequences on certain prerequisites in order to avoid induced correlation in one's conclusions. If you do not do this, you can, sooner or later, start believing in omens. But here, as elsewhere: reasonable filtering and processing of incoming information, before forming a rule for it - and then everything will be fine. This is how all natural sciences were born, and in the same way, man must form his attitude to the world.

                      I think that even a fool should not be told about what German Nazism was for us during the Second World War. Today, nationalist movements in Germany have shades characteristic of Germany in the early 30s: many, for example, are misled by a certain modern "Strasserism", which suggests (like the original Strasserism in its time) to oppose the West in alliance with Russia and build socially just national society. However, we remember that although these ideas lay, among others, at the basis of the Nazi movement, they did not find wide popularity in the future, and the Germans, as a result, gave their hearts not to the Strasser brothers, but to someone known. There were a number of prerequisites for this, including:
                      - the traditional demand in German society for a negative attitude towards Russia (thirst for revenge for past wars, cultural differences, etc.);
                      - the need to share spheres of influence with Russia;
                      - the need for resources (including territorial ones) that Russia possessed.

                      Do these prerequisites exist today? Then why should we think that in the nationalistically tuned minds of Germans today those ideas that the Germans had already rejected in the 30s, preferring slightly different ideas, will prevail? This is not logical. Therefore, as a rule, we reasonably accept here the lessons of history well learned by us.

                      Well, further, let's go through the little things.

                      Quote: Simple
                      Will you perform it yourself?

                      I live in a legal state.
                      I'll make a reservation. Specifically, our Nazis (including Ukrainian) are something different from the German Nazis. These are generally perverts, pruschisya from those who did not distinguish their ancestors from cattle. So here it is worth talking more about mental disorders than about some kind of ideology. How can you even say that you love your people, if at the same time you are aflame with feelings for those who saw your people partly as a slave, and partly as ash and smoke from concentration camps?

                      Quote: Simple
                      these posters call for violence among citizens

                      A poster, for example, about the search for another Chikatilo, also, in fact, encourages citizens to take part in violence against a citizen. Will you see something bad in him too? It's just that citizens are different, and some of them are criminals who are not going to stop without using violence against them. It's elementary.

                      I wrote you a long commentary, which contains an exhaustive rationale for the provisions I have voiced. If I do not answer your next post, then with a high degree of probability this will happen because the answer to it already exists in this particular post of mine - and I do not like to repeat the same thing 10 times.
                    3. Simple
                      Simple 24 October 2020 11: 11
                      -1
                      Yes, your comedian is really long, but why?

                      You can always explain your position more succinctly.

                      Once again, my position: "Nazis" have long since ended. People with the "neo-Nazi" ideology live in the modern world. Therefore, based on this alone, the appeal of these posters is outdated for several decades and only misleads ignorant people.

                      Second: In Germany, the death penalty has long been abolished. This is a fatal mistake of the ideologists of these appeals, they call for lynching.

                      Between the first word: "Nazi" and the second: "Töten" - there is not even a dash or comma or a call to go to the appropriate state. organs - therefore, this is a call to lynching. In the case of a comma such as: "Nazi, tönen" the bottom appeal (at a stretch) could be considered as an explanation. what people with a given ideology can do.

                      Finally, let's take the following situation as an example:

                      A man enters a police station in the Federal Republic of Germany at the moment and activates a grenade - as a result - corpses (more than one).

                      In the note, the person who committed the amok will refer to this poster.

                      (Germany, policemen in black - and he never saw anything like Soviet war films.)

                      That's it.
                    4. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                      Boris ⁣ Shaver 24 October 2020 16: 06
                      -1
                      Quote: Simple
                      You can always explain your position more succinctly.

                      An empty statement, refuted by millions of examples, when this or that position by far from stupid people was justified in voluminous works, and not in three lines.

                      Quote: Simple
                      Once again, my position:

                      If you think that someone is just interested in your position, and even several times, then you are greatly mistaken. It becomes interesting when a person is able to logically substantiate his theses and logically object to counterarguments. You are not able, you are only reciting. It makes no sense and smells of something unhealthy already.

                      Quote: Simple
                      nothing else

                      About pluralism of opinions and truth - I wrote to you above
                    5. Simple
                      Simple 25 October 2020 09: 21
                      -1
                      "The giant of thought". expounding his arguments in multivolume books to the last more or less suitable argument and the reason was fake satirists.
                      Such satirists. Humorists should be imprisoned so that others are discouraged - and you defend their idea in your "multivolume works".

                      You also don't know how to keep your words.

                      So you will be remembered by me.
                      You can continue to practice rhetoric with yourself.
                      I do not intend to keep you in your exercise.
                    6. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                      Boris ⁣ Shaver 25 October 2020 20: 22
                      0
                      Quote: Simple
                      Fake

                      You don't understand at all what the words you use mean? How can you reason about something if you cannot comprehend the content of this or that word?
                      "Satyrist" here you are. When a young child confuses words, it's funny. When an adult does it, it's funny.

                      Quote: Simple
                      need to plant

                      It is necessary to cut at the root. And not them, but Nazism. On this objective fact, you have nothing to answer, that's why "satirists", "killers of police stations" and other nonsense begin.

                      The same mentally limited ones at one time zealously joined the ranks of the armies of Nazi Germany. And neither logic or common sense could convince them (this requires an opponent's brain), but only good stars, which my ancestors gave them.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 17 October 2020 07: 30
    17
    He did the right thing, there is nothing to offend the feelings of believers.

    There was nothing to collect dirt from all over the world and shout that this is tolerance.
    1. jovanni
      jovanni 17 October 2020 08: 41
      +4
      There was nothing to collect dirt from all over the world and shout that this is tolerance.

      Indeed, they themselves have demolished all sorts of boundaries of decency, morality, and in general the framework of reason and called it tolerance! And then the same one appears, only with a different pole in the head, and instead of giving it in the eye, it cuts the head ... Well, no ... stupid people? ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 October 2020 08: 47
        +2
        Quote: Jovanni
        And then the same one appears, only with a different pole in the head, and instead of giving it in the eye, it cuts the head ... Well, not stupid people? ...

        Why are they not smart, they came to France not to give in the eye, but in order to cut gold.
  • Svetlana
    Svetlana 17 October 2020 08: 13
    +4
    No dear. Only the state has the right to violence.
  • stalki
    stalki 17 October 2020 08: 45
    +5
    Did it right, there is nothing to offend the feelings of believers
    What kind of believers? This is not a believer, this is a patient. Have you thought before equating faith and madness? When the human framework disappears in consciousness, people become animals. And the reason for this is laid down in childhood. Have you ever seen gardens of crooked trees? When a tree, according to all the laws of nature, should grow up, and the branches are pulled down to it. This is exactly what happened in this case. The reason for this deformation of consciousness is artificial. The defect was created intentionally. And this is the worst thing.
    1. Alf
      Alf 17 October 2020 18: 49
      +4
      Quote: stalki
      And the reason for this is laid down in childhood. The reason for this deformation of consciousness is artificial. The defect was created intentionally. And this is the worst thing.

      Especially if, since childhood, they have hammered into your head the thesis that only your faith is true, and all those around you are unbelievers or untermensch, what will you get at the end of 16-18 years?
      1. stalki
        stalki 17 October 2020 20: 20
        -1
        Especially if, since childhood, they have hammered into your head the thesis that only your faith is true, and all those around you are unbelievers or untermensch, what will you get at the end of 16-18 years?
        Namely, the child is a white sheet of paper on which you can write anything you want. And if this also happens from generation to generation, then this is already a mental defect.
  • alexmach
    alexmach 17 October 2020 11: 28
    0
    He did the right thing, there is nothing to offend the feelings of believers.

    Believers should come to their senses a little and measure their insulted feelings a little. Everyone. Orthodox too, not only those that pray for sunrise.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 17 October 2020 07: 33
    +1
    Yes, the campaign just doesn't matter who he is by nationality, most importantly, they wrote that he might be from Russia! And here they make a kind of "global standard of evil and cruelty" from our country! Whatever happens in the world, first of all, Russia and the Russians are blamed for it!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 October 2020 08: 51
      +3
      Quote: Thrifty
      And here from our country they make a kind of "global standard of evil and cruelty.

      I am writing again, they accepted it themselves, and this is now your problem, Monsieur French.
    2. pv1005
      pv1005 17 October 2020 09: 24
      +2
      Quote: Thrifty
      Yes, the campaign just doesn't matter who he is by nationality, most importantly, they wrote that he might be from Russia! And here they make a kind of "global standard of evil and cruelty" from our country! Whatever happens in the world, first of all, Russia and the Russians are blamed for it!

      And how is Russia sideways? A French citizen cut off the head of another French citizen, that's all. Where is Russia here? request
      1. Alf
        Alf 17 October 2020 18: 51
        +1
        Quote: pv1005
        And how is Russia sideways? A French citizen cut off the head of another French citizen, that's all. Where is Russia here?

        18-year-old Abdulak A., who, as stated, "could have been born in Moscow."
      2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 18 October 2020 01: 13
        -1
        Quote: pv1005
        what side is Russia? A French citizen cut off the head of another French citizen, that's all. Where is Russia here?

        Do you think the French media will convey this very idea to French housewives?
  • Linxs
    Linxs 17 October 2020 07: 46
    +7

    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    France survived ... in the middle of the day, in the city, in full view of everyone, radical Islamists cut off a person's head ... I never thought that tolerance in France could reach such ... horror.




    Moscow. 2016.
    The nanny with the severed head of the child was detained near the metro.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 17 October 2020 08: 18
      +2
      you really do not understand the difference between a mentally ill woman and the savage crime and murder on the basis of religion by a radical?
      1. Looking for
        Looking for 17 October 2020 16: 29
        0
        he deliberately does not understand her.
      2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 18 October 2020 01: 20
        -1
        Quote: carstorm 11
        do you really understand the difference between a mentally ill woman and the savage crime she committed and murder on the basis of religion by a radical?

        Mentally ill or simply weak-minded people - in skillful hands, excellent material for the manufacture of all these death row. Remember how easily our terrorists used to rivet shahids (from “inconsolable” widows and just weak women).
        Seriously think that this one of the news was completely healthy and strong in spirit?
        And the expression of emotions precisely by cutting off the head is not a characteristic feature for all psychos in a row, but more often all the same for psychos from a certain "cultural" environment.
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 17 October 2020 08: 43
      0
      Moscow. 2016.
      The nanny with the severed head of the child was detained near the metro.

      I know this story very well ... poor parents took on the education of their child a half-mad woman from some unverified ad.
      Nobody checked this lady for sanity ...
    3. URAL72
      URAL72 17 October 2020 09: 30
      +7
      Gulchekhra Bobokulova may be suffering from schizophrenia, but she admits the brutal murder of a disabled child. She even justified her atrocity: they say, she wanted to take revenge on Putin for a special operation in Syria. All jihadists justify their crimes in the same way.

      In Moscow, then in Moscow, but again Muslims.
  • taiga2018
    taiga2018 17 October 2020 08: 51
    +1
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Macron blurted out again without understanding

    It’s a pity, of course, for the man, but not for the teacher, who, perfectly realizing the hype in his country because of these cartoons, deliberately went to this provocation ...
  • Insurgent
    Insurgent 17 October 2020 10: 12
    +8
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    France survived ... in the middle of the day, in the city, in full view of everyone, radical Islamists cut off a person's head ...

  • Olegater
    Olegater 17 October 2020 06: 53
    +3
    Good morning, dear forum users!

    This news could remain in local reports. And we would never have known about this, provided that the criminal was a local Arab.
    BUT there is a Chechen involved, and may have been born in Moscow.
    Is there a reason for the accusation and the introduction of new sanctions again?
    There are several questions.
    Dear members of the forum, tell me why the West should behave like that?
    It seems like we sell them everything, we concede in many ways, but politicians constantly stir up hysteria? Russians are constantly exposed as such beasts.
    And when will the boiling point (indignation by these Russians) come for the Western masses? When will their inhabitant agree to another invasion?

    What do you think?
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 17 October 2020 06: 58
      16
      History answers all your questions. Never in the last 500 years at least has Europe perceived Russia as part of its civilization. During this time, Russophobia only grew. So, nothing is new under the Moon. It is also not new that the forces are already openly emerging, eager to drag Russia into a new large-scale war.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 October 2020 08: 03
        +3
        Quote: Volodin
        History answers all your questions. Never in the last 500 years at least has Europe perceived Russia as part of its civilization. During this time, Russophobia only grew.
        Anger and envy grows with greater force. During these 500 years, Europe has destroyed all its mineral resources, all nature, polluted all rivers. In Germany, several hundred wolves and lynxes remained, and most of the living world disappeared. There is a wild uproar against Nord Stream 2, and why? We are coming up with different versions, shooting gallery "pollution of nature." Yes, they no longer have nature, but there is greed. Russia supplies gas, think about it, YOUR Russian gas, and not THEIR European gas, they use, as well as oil and metals, and even as in the 19-20 centuries bread and agricultural products. Why was the fishing industry of the USSR based on ocean fishing in the first place destroyed under Eltsin? How they began to crush it under the USSR, introducing 12 mile fishing zones from 200 mile. For 500 years they have looked at Russia like jackals, gaping greedy mouths splashing saliva. Greed, greed, anger, the name Russophobia was invented, but the essence does not change from this.
        1. Gubernia
          Gubernia 17 October 2020 08: 55
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Anger and envy grows with greater force.

          Vlad are key words in Western politics, they have been and remain .. hi
          We have somehow got used to this rhetoric and hysterics .. Provocation after provocation comes, especially with these "poisonings" Laughter and sin is straight, well, what can you take from the poor?
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 17 October 2020 09: 40
            +3
            Quote: Gubernia
            Provocation after provocation comes, especially with these "poisonings". Laughter and sin is straightforward, well, what can you take from the poor?

            Since the Russian empire appeared under Ivan the Terrible, we have been living with these "poisonings" and anger.
            1. Gubernia
              Gubernia 17 October 2020 11: 21
              0
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: Gubernia
              Provocation after provocation comes, especially with these "poisonings". Laughter and sin is straightforward, well, what can you take from the poor?

              Since the Russian empire appeared under Ivan the Terrible, we have been living with these "poisonings" and anger.

              And we constantly step on the rake Vlad ... and then we start to think about who are partners and who are friends hi
              And Russia has a panacea, only one of its allies has always been and will be for our long-suffering history. soldier

              These are the things that submariners and commanders of tank formations with missilemen do.
              1. 2 Level Advisor
                2 Level Advisor 17 October 2020 11: 50
                +1
                Yes, for any strong country, these words are true, because they are afraid of small ones and can only be opportunists, not allies ..
                for example: In the book by M. Reisner "Wilhelm II and the Iron Empire", published in St. Petersburg in 1914, the words of the last German emperor are quoted: "The main support of the state is the army and the navy."
                Source: https://citaty.su/u-rossii-tolko-dva-soyuznika-armiya-i-flot

                An ally can only be approximately equal in strength and interests .. who can be approximately equal to Russia? there are only a few of them in the world and our interests do not really coincide today ..
                1. Gubernia
                  Gubernia 17 October 2020 12: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                  Yes, for any strong country, these words are true, because they are afraid of small ones and can only be opportunists, not allies ..
                  for example: In the book by M. Reisner "Wilhelm II and the Iron Empire", published in St. Petersburg in 1914, the words of the last German emperor are quoted: "The main support of the state is the army and the navy."

                  So yes, but with Russia it is a little different .. We are some other unpredictable
                  Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                  An ally can only be approximately equal in strength and interests .. who can be approximately equal to Russia? there are only a few of them in the world and our interests do not really coincide today ..

                  Do not match hi ! .. We (the people) do not like this whole world device of double standards .. Here we have problems constantly, which we overcome (sometimes with great losses, but)))))
                  They don't let us live peacefully for at least 100 years .. Such is the fate we see, to break the backs of the arrogant aggressors .. That we are not doing badly in our history. soldier
              2. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 17 October 2020 16: 28
                0
                Quote: Gubernia
                These are the things that submariners and commanders of tank formations with missilemen do.

                Yes, only J.V. Stalin had these two allies.
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 17 October 2020 07: 03
      +3
      Why would the west behave like that?

      Two different civilizations ... one of which is Western ... Europe wants to swallow Eastern ... Russia ... nothing new ... this has been going on for a millennium ... with varying success.
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 17 October 2020 07: 06
        +7
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Two different civilizations ... one of which is western

        Something when in Chechnya the heads of Russian old people were cut to children, these civilizations got along quite well ..
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 17 October 2020 07: 14
          +8
          Something when in Chechnya the heads of Russian old people were cut to children, these civilizations got along quite well ..

          Of course, they killed our soldiers as well .. those who did it were shot and imprisoned for life ... the rest hid.
          Above each such thug should be a public trial with inevitable punishment.
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 17 October 2020 07: 17
            +9
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            . the rest hid.

            Are you sure? But what about the academician with fellow soldiers, accomplices?
            And Budanov for some reason is a war criminal ..
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 17 October 2020 08: 46
              -6
              The academician did not cut his head ...
              Budanov is an excellent officer and comrade ... but he violated gross military discipline, which is not forgiven in the army.
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey 17 October 2020 08: 47
                +4
                Quote: The same Lech
                The academician did not cut his head ...
                Budanov is an excellent officer and comrade ... but he violated gross military discipline, which is not forgiven in the army.

                How tolerant)))
                1. Same lech
                  Same lech 17 October 2020 08: 57
                  -2
                  How tolerant)))
                  There is no room for tolerance in the Army ... if every officer will do whatever he wants, how then will he differ from the same thugs.
                  With all due respect to Budanov, he should not have buried himself ... he went too far in his willfulness.
                  1. mat-vey
                    mat-vey 17 October 2020 09: 05
                    +3
                    Quote: The same LYOKHA
                    There is no room for tolerance in the Army.

                    And I'm not talking about the army ...
                    1. Same lech
                      Same lech 17 October 2020 09: 07
                      0
                      And I'm not talking about the army ...

                      Sorry hi I did not immediately understand your short text ... one word with different intonation in Russian can have several meanings ... but alas, I'm not Stirlitz, I can't read thoughts from a distance. smile
                      1. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 17 October 2020 09: 14
                        +1
                        Quote: The same LYOKHA
                        Stirlitz, I can't read thoughts from a distance.

                        It's a pity, or maybe they read what actually happened there ...
                      2. Same lech
                        Same lech 17 October 2020 09: 24
                        0
                        , or maybe they read what actually happened there ...
                        This story has long been known to everyone who is interested in it ... I also do not want to poke around in it ... unpleasant ... let's not talk about it anymore. hi
                      3. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 17 October 2020 09: 48
                        +1
                        Quote: The same LYOKHA
                        This story has long been known to everyone who is interested in it.

                        That's it ....
                      4. Garris199
                        Garris199 17 October 2020 16: 51
                        +2
                        Where do the legs grow from? From a mediocre decision on the rehabilitation of certain peoples and the restoration of some republics and its own mediocre execution. All this was bound to come back to haunt. The bell rang already in the 50s, if I'm not mistaken, and in the early 90s a big bell rang. All from the same "tolerance", often perverted and applied completely in the wrong place.
                      5. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 17 October 2020 17: 30
                        0
                        Quote: Garris199
                        Everything from the same "tolerance"

                        I wonder if someone will start assuring that this is different ...
        2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 18 October 2020 01: 48
          -1
          Quote: mat-vey
          How tolerant)))

          How in a frying pan
      2. Gubernia
        Gubernia 17 October 2020 08: 51
        -5
        Quote: The same Lech
        The academician did not cut his head ...
        Budanov is an excellent officer and comrade ... but he violated gross military discipline, which is not forgiven in the army.

        That's exactly how Alexey hi Something happened and it’s not worth picking at the wound with a dirty finger .. The main thing was stopped, and the rest of the story will put all the points Who is right and who is wrong. hi
  • sniperino
    sniperino 18 October 2020 09: 48
    +1
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    the rest hid
    A small clarification: "hiding" or openly (not hiding) in the West or in the regions occupied by the West in the form of "irreconcilable opposition", "rebels", etc.
  • askort154
    askort154 17 October 2020 07: 37
    +8
    mat-vey ....Something when in Chechnya the heads of Russian old people were cut to children, these civilizations got along quite well ..

    They called them "rebels" and supported them in every possible way. Expelled from Russia, many settled in Europe. They are being replaced by their children. European radical liberalism is like a cancer. There will be no improvement, only regression. They begin to understand, but it's too late. All forces were thrown to suppress Russia, and missed a blow from the other side.
    (did I continue your thought?) hi
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 17 October 2020 07: 48
      +1
      Quote: askort154
      They begin to understand, but it's too late.

      Who is beginning to understand? The population? So it in the majority and earlier understood .. The leadership? Yes to him .... This is so - the standard protocol of depicting care for citizens, that would sit longer on the neck. Earlier in Europe, for "religion" was cut on left and right, the same St. Bartholomew's Night, but then I had to raise the educational level and religion as a means of control and management lost its relevance ... Money allows you to do this more sophisticated, but for peoples with, let's say, not developed education, religion is the only one control mechanism ... so this is a manifestation of vulgar economic bickering - in principle, which is why all wars occur ...
      1. askort154
        askort154 17 October 2020 13: 39
        0
        mat-vey ....Money allows you to do this in a more sophisticated way, but among peoples with, let's say, undeveloped education, religion is the only control mechanism ... so this is a manifestation of vulgar economic squabbling - in principle, which is why all wars occur ...

        Everything in our world is relative. It depends on what to start from. Once religion was at the forefront, but there were wars. Then came the "educational faith" - but there were wars. Today, a super educational society ready to entrust itself
        "artificial intelligence", which, first of all, will be introduced to wage wars on Earth. As a result, the present civilization on Earth is the most ugly and dangerous in the entire history of its existence. Because the core of being a homosapiens has been lost. From century to century, there is a substitution of "values" that attract him. And here again religion comes into force. The old Christian one is blurred, while the younger, Muslim one fills its niche - "non-believers". In moral law, there is no opposition to them. The "super enlightened" European society has moved head over heels into the anti-moral swamp of the XNUMXth century. hi
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 17 October 2020 13: 45
          0
          I didn't have a question for your answer ...
          1. askort154
            askort154 17 October 2020 13: 58
            0
            mat-vey ..
            .Quote: askort154
            They begin to understand, but it's too late.


            Your post: Who is beginning to understand? The population? So it mostly understood before ... The leadership? Yes to him ...

            You entered the discussion, I continued on this topic. Having no complaints against you.
            hi
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 17 October 2020 07: 04
    10
    The life of the absolute majority of the world's population is flawed. People work and survive. And sometimes they can't find a job. And all this disgrace is only getting worse, from year to year. When there was a Union, the Europeans were allowed to live in satiety so that they would not go over to the socialist camp. Now that the USSR is gone, there is nowhere else to rush. Europe began to turn into a worldwide settler. Europeans are raped, murdered by criminals from among the millions of settlers. The economy is in decline. And in order to distract people from the gloomy picture of reality, an image of a terrible enemy is needed, more terrible than a terrorist, most terrible of all. And of course - this is the image of "wild" Russia, which "wants to conquer everyone."
    They also demonize China, but it is far away, and Russia is nearby ...
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 17 October 2020 07: 12
      +5
      And in order to distract people from the gloomy picture of reality, an image of a terrible enemy is needed,

      Uh-huh. It's the same in our country. No difference. yes
    2. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 17 October 2020 08: 20
      -6
      Quote: Doccor18
      The life of the absolute majority of the world's population is flawed

      Maybe because this majority is flawed?
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 17 October 2020 08: 55
        +5
        Maybe because this majority is flawed?

        I do not agree with you.
        A child who has lived with dogs for several years can only howl and bark. A child who was brought up in a family of intellectuals can distinguish Mozart from Rostropovich, Tolstoy from Dostoevsky. Does it mean that the first child is flawed? Not at all. He was simply put in such conditions, and he, to the best of his ability, tried to adapt to them. The same is with the majority of the world's population. Try to buy a house in the US or UK or go to college if your mom is unemployed and your dad is a taxi driver or a construction worker ...
        Conditions for people are absolutely different, so it is not necessary to write all of them initially as "flawed".
        1. Narak-zempo
          Narak-zempo 17 October 2020 11: 13
          0
          Quote: Doccor18
          Maybe because this majority is flawed?

          I do not agree with you.
          A child who has lived with dogs for several years can only howl and bark. A child who was brought up in a family of intellectuals can distinguish Mozart from Rostropovich, Tolstoy from Dostoevsky. Does it mean that the first child is flawed? Not at all. He was simply put in such conditions, and he, to the best of his ability, tried to adapt to them. The same is with the majority of the world's population. Try to buy a house in the US or UK or go to college if your mom is unemployed and your dad is a taxi driver or a construction worker ...
          Conditions for people are absolutely different, so it is not necessary to write all of them initially as "flawed".

          Have you read Weber - well, about Protestant ethics?
          1. Doccor18
            Doccor18 17 October 2020 12: 16
            +3
            "The relationship between God and man was determined extremely rigidly - there are the chosen and there are the unelected, nothing can be changed, but you can feel yourself chosen."
            A slippery path on which some countries and peoples have already managed to "slip and break their legs" ...
            1. Narak-zempo
              Narak-zempo 17 October 2020 12: 19
              0
              Quote: Doccor18
              but you can feel yourself chosen

              Not "feel", but define.
              That is, if you are successful in your endeavors, God gives you a signal that you are the chosen one, and no means no laughing
              It turns out that whoever lives defectively is defective himself - and you will not dig in, the logic is iron.
              1. Doccor18
                Doccor18 17 October 2020 12: 29
                +2
                Max Weber was born into the family of a very wealthy official, a member of the National Liberal Party ...
                1. Narak-zempo
                  Narak-zempo 17 October 2020 12: 55
                  0
                  Quote: Doccor18
                  Max Weber was born into the family of a very wealthy official, a member of the National Liberal Party ...

                  Well, it's clear - in the family of the chosen one laughing
                  1. Doccor18
                    Doccor18 17 October 2020 13: 14
                    +2
                    Exactly yes It is good and convenient to philosophize in your own castle.
  • Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 17 October 2020 07: 15
    +2
    Quote: Olegater
    Good morning, dear forum users!

    This news could remain in local reports. And we would never have known about this, provided that the criminal was a local Arab.
    BUT there is a Chechen involved, and may have been born in Moscow.
    Is there a reason for the accusation and the introduction of new sanctions again?
    There are several questions.
    Dear members of the forum, tell me why the West should behave like that?
    It seems like we sell them everything, we concede in many ways, but politicians constantly stir up hysteria? Russians are constantly exposed as such beasts.
    And when will the boiling point (indignation by these Russians) come for the Western masses? When will their inhabitant agree to another invasion?

    What do you think?

    "The post-New Year days in Germany were marked by the incident in Cologne, where on the night of January 1, about 190 German women were sexually harassed by migrants, and other residents of the city complained about the aggression of refugees."
    There is nothing to think about, it is absolutely indifferent to their screeching squeaks.
  • jovanni
    jovanni 17 October 2020 08: 45
    +1
    ... It seems like we sell them everything, we concede in many ways,

    That is why they behave this way ...
  • Ela myaushkina
    Ela myaushkina 17 October 2020 14: 25
    0
    Quote: Olegater
    Good morning, dear forum users!

    This news could remain in local reports. And we would never have known about this, provided that the criminal was a local Arab.
    BUT there is a Chechen involved, and may have been born in Moscow.
    Is there a reason for the accusation and the introduction of new sanctions again?
    There are several questions.
    Dear members of the forum, tell me why the West should behave like that?
    It seems like we sell them everything, we concede in many ways, but politicians constantly stir up hysteria? Russians are constantly exposed as such beasts.
    And when will the boiling point (indignation by these Russians) come for the Western masses? When will their inhabitant agree to another invasion?

    What do you think?

    How long has he been a Chechen, is he Russian?
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 18 October 2020 10: 04
      0
      Quote: Ela Myaushkina
      How long has he been a Chechen, is he Russian?
      For the western man in the street, all those born in Russia in general and in Moscow in particular are Russians. Long.
  • Boris ⁣ Shaver
    Boris ⁣ Shaver 18 October 2020 01: 41
    0
    Quote: Olegater
    When will their inhabitant agree to another invasion?

    It's not even the invasion. The soldier at the base must understand that his family burned down somewhere in his homeland in the fire of a nuclear retaliatory strike, not because his government started this war (and first some Russian family burned down), but only because the Russians are absolute evil. Otherwise, how will he go to fight for his government?
  • dedBoroded
    dedBoroded 17 October 2020 07: 06
    +2
    And what are these lessons in which such caricatures need to be demonstrated?
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 17 October 2020 07: 20
      +4
      Whoever and how would not relate to strongly believers, but it is unacceptable to scoff at faith. As well as scoff at someone's culture, traditions, customs. Europeans even managed to distort the concept of "tolerance" beyond recognition. Tolerance is, first of all, tolerance and respect for each person, regardless of their clothes, views and religion. Respect, not caricatures to demonstrate sacred images for millions of people.
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 17 October 2020 07: 50
        -1
        Quote: Doccor18
        Respect, not caricatures to demonstrate sacred images for millions of people.

        What does respect mean? Hit the right, substitute the left?
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 17 October 2020 08: 59
          +1
          What does respect mean?

          Treat others the same way you want to be treated.
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 17 October 2020 09: 03
            0
            Quote: Doccor18
            What does respect mean?

            Treat others the same way you want to be treated.

            And the reverse postulate - treat others as they treat you is a manifestation of "respect"?
            1. Doccor18
              Doccor18 17 October 2020 09: 16
              +2
              That is, if someone stepped on your foot on the bus, then you should definitely step back and feel "respected" ... Do you think this is normal?
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey 17 October 2020 09: 18
                -2
                Quote: Doccor18
                That is, if you step on your foot on the bus,

                and often because of religious beliefs they step on your feet?
                1. Doccor18
                  Doccor18 17 October 2020 09: 27
                  +2
                  Respect does not depend on religion. Whether you believe it or not. You can even respect the enemy if he deserves it. Religion (belief in God), like family life, is very personal. It is unacceptable to impose religion, but it is also unacceptable to denigrate it.
                  My teacher always said that the one who is smarter is always to blame for the conflict ...
                  1. mat-vey
                    mat-vey 17 October 2020 09: 53
                    0
                    Quote: Doccor18
                    It is unacceptable to impose religion, but it is also unacceptable to denigrate it.

                    So what if they impose it on you? Respect for that? What are you suggesting to the scumbags to give flowers and read Yesenin, maybe they will come to their senses and understand that they were stupid fanatics?
                    1. Doccor18
                      Doccor18 17 October 2020 10: 06
                      0
                      So what if you are forced to do it?

                      How can you impose religion on you? How can you be made to believe or not? I suppose you are an adult, an accomplished person for a long time.
                      What are you suggesting to the scumbags to give flowers and read Yesenin, maybe they will come to their senses and understand that they were stupid fanatics?

                      And what are "thugs"? The criminals who attacked on the street do not need to read Yesenin, they need to be fiercely rebuffed.
                      And in the religious aspect, try to insult their religiosity in any Muslim country (and not only), so a recently smiling respectable citizen can instantly become a "scumbag" ...
                      1. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 17 October 2020 10: 15
                        0
                        Quote: Doccor18
                        How can you impose religion on you? How can you be made to believe or not? I suppose you are an adult, an accomplished person for a long time.

                        And that religious terror is not an imposition? Become like me, or die.
                        Quote: Doccor18
                        And in the religious aspect, try to insult their religiosity in any Muslim country (and not only), so a recently smiling respectable citizen can instantly become a "scumbag" ...

                        So why should the French show respect? In their own country ...
          2. Senka naughty
            Senka naughty 17 October 2020 10: 16
            -2
            Quote: Doccor18
            What does respect mean?

            Treat others the same way you want to be treated.

            Ie this wild Chechen wants his head to be sawed off too? You are delusional.
        2. sniperino
          sniperino 18 October 2020 10: 18
          0
          Quote: mat-vey
          What does respect mean? Hit the right, substitute the left?
          Why quote what you don't understand. To hit on the cheek means a moral insult (they don't give a slap to knock someone out). Turning the “other cheek” means that the offended person should not immediately and permanently close himself off from the offender, but should look for another approach to him.
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 18 October 2020 10: 44
            0
            Caricature is the same "moral" insult, but cutting off your head is a different approach ..
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 18 October 2020 10: 51
              0
              Quote: mat-vey
              cutting off your head is a different approach
              If a society does not respond appropriately to public insults to the feelings of its citizens, such excesses will inevitably recur.
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey 18 October 2020 10: 58
                0
                Quote: sniperino
                If a society does not respond appropriately to public insults to the feelings of its citizens, such excesses will inevitably recur.

                Oh, how - society ... if the leaders of the country did not let anyone (for the material benefit of the "elite") and forced to observe the "charter of the monastery" for those who came from another, then there would be practically no excesses - but on the cheap, the dark emigrant mass can earn money, but for the locals - tolerance ...
                1. sniperino
                  sniperino 18 October 2020 12: 26
                  0
                  Quote: mat-vey
                  forced to observe the "monastery charter"
                  Article 1 of the French Constitution states that it respects all beliefs. Consequently, any public expression of disrespect for the symbols of world religions should be classified as a criminal offense.
                  Quote: mat-vey
                  you can make money on cheap, dark emigre mass
                  If the French do not want to lay asphalt ... But today the French work for emigrants, in my opinion
                  1. mat-vey
                    mat-vey 18 October 2020 12: 28
                    0
                    Quote: sniperino
                    Quote: mat-vey
                    forced to observe the "monastery charter"
                    Article 1 of the French Constitution states that it respects all beliefs. Consequently, any public expression of disrespect for the symbols of world religions should be classified as a criminal offense.

                    Hence the caricature was within constitutional limits ...
                    1. sniperino
                      sniperino 18 October 2020 12: 38
                      0
                      Quote: mat-vey
                      Hence the caricature was within constitutional limits
                      Unexpected conclusion
                      1. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 18 October 2020 12: 40
                        +1
                        Quote: sniperino
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        Hence the caricature was within constitutional limits
                        Unexpected conclusion

                        What do you think that they have all sorts of supervisory officials to work hammered?
                      2. sniperino
                        sniperino 18 October 2020 12: 49
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        do you think that they have all sorts of supervisory officials to work hammered?
                        And what is more likely, they are under the control of the political sect of liberoids, who declared war on religions in their Manifesto of Liberalism.
                      3. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 18 October 2020 12: 52
                        +1
                        Well, I don’t know, but I would not doubt the ubiquity of the Western bureaucracy ...
  • Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 17 October 2020 10: 14
    0
    Quote: Doccor18
    Europeans even managed to distort the concept of "tolerance" beyond recognition. Tolerance is, first of all, tolerance and respect for each person, regardless of their clothes, views and religion.

    That is, to cut a person for a drawing, is this in your opinion tolerant enough for Muslims? Not Muslims, should endure the cultural "delights" of savages from the third world, and savages can cut under the guise of religion as a "shield"? Your logic is strange.
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 17 October 2020 10: 26
      +3
      That is, to cut a person for a drawing, is this in your opinion tolerant enough for Muslims?

      Cutting a person is a harsh crime.
      Your logic is strange.

      My logic is normal. So you, it seems, while reading my comments, were thinking about yours.
      It is unacceptable to commit crimes! In any case, there is no excuse for this.
      But even hiding behind the word "tolerance" to show children the genitals of adults, cut a giraffe on the air, arrange parades of half-naked men kissing, insult faith in God (of any religion) - is also unacceptable!
  • Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 17 October 2020 10: 49
    0
    And what are these lessons in which such caricatures need to be demonstrated?

    What kind of caricature was there? Maybe there was nothing like that.
    Family photo. Everyone is wearing a burqa. Isn't it funny or is it a desecration of Muslims?
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 October 2020 07: 20
    +4
    the offender cut off his head
    Didn't the tragedy with one "famous" magazine teach you anything? But in their opinion, they live in a tolerant, monocultural society. At the request of our law enforcement agencies, terrorists are not extradited (for example, England). Well, continue to believe that your so-called. "values" are the pinnacle of developed society.
    1. depressant
      depressant 17 October 2020 08: 00
      +6
      I would say unprintable. I am intolerant both towards the West and towards academics running at the head of Islamist gangs. Savages and those, and these. Only the forms of savagery are different.
      They are all disgusting to me.
      But it is significant that, forgetting about the severed heads, both those and these are able to merge in a military ecstasy against my people. A plague on both their homes. I hate it!
  • pilot69
    pilot69 17 October 2020 07: 33
    +1
    And there is nothing to think about, it was an agent of Himself, soon to be announced in all irons.
  • Linxs
    Linxs 17 October 2020 07: 48
    -1

    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Of course, they killed our soldiers as well .. those who did it were shot and imprisoned for life ... the rest hid.

    And they also gave a Hero of Russia.
    But they don't like to remember this.
  • Linxs
    Linxs 17 October 2020 07: 51
    +3
    Quote: mat-vey
    And Budanov for some reason is a war criminal ..

    And they have Budanov an enemy, a scoundrel and a criminal, and the second academician, a luminary of science and a Hero of Russia.
  • prior
    prior 17 October 2020 08: 13
    +4
    The division of people by nationality, by faith, by territory, by property status and, in general, by any of the signs always leads to a radical result.
    The principle of "Divide and Conquer" is not invented today.
    Workers of all countries - unite.
  • Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 17 October 2020 08: 27
    +3
    Well, what kind of tolerance it is when a teacher shows cartoons of the prophet in the classroom, while he knows very well that there may be Muslims in his class and they will not like it! This is not tolerance, this is stupidity and banal ignorance!
    1. Rusik.S
      Rusik.S 17 October 2020 13: 28
      +1
      The topic of the lesson was "cartoons". Before showing her, he warned her that she could offend Muslims and suggested that such children leave the classroom for the duration of the demonstration. One of the parents found out about this, became indignant and posted the teacher's data on the network. Well, then we know what happened
    2. sniperino
      sniperino 18 October 2020 10: 44
      0
      This is not stupidity, but arrogance and rudeness, which should be punished in any normal society.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 October 2020 08: 27
    0
    Macron is lying, the teacher died for his own stupidity. Who allowed him to scoff at the symbols of the Islamists. Although the one who cut off his head should simply be executed. But the geyropa herself does not understand where she is heading and all this will come back to haunt in the future, oh how painful.
    1. iouris
      iouris 17 October 2020 11: 18
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      the teacher died for his own stupidity. Who allowed him to scoff at the symbols of the Islamists.

      Firstly, he did not "go out of his way", but taught "as it should be" (in France: they have "freedom of speech" there). All claims against France, France is the EU. Secondly, "Islamists" are terrorists. The adherents of Islam are Muslims. Religion is separated from the state. Citizens are equal regardless of religion. Citizens in such cases go to court.
  • Reviews
    Reviews 17 October 2020 08: 32
    +1
    , scum and geek.
    1. iouris
      iouris 17 October 2020 10: 45
      -2
      Something tells me: this is a special operation. Purpose: to show that "the Russians are completely brutal: they poison and cut everyone right and left." The Anglo-Saxons have developed a matrix: information stuffing - reinforcing a reflex - shaking with a test tube at the UN (or in the OPCW, it doesn't matter) - humanitarian bombing - robbery - somersault with a rebound - the Hague tribunal ...
      In short, the "partners" must be urgently admonished. This can be done by the use of force, or at least by the threat of its use. What is the strength, brother? Everyone has their own truth.
  • Romanenko
    Romanenko 17 October 2020 09: 57
    +1
    Perhaps in the end, France will demand to stop the construction of "Nord Stream-2", but of course, the Chechen terrorist he is from Russia!
  • iouris
    iouris 17 October 2020 10: 16
    0
    It has already been announced that the offender was born in Moscow. Maria Zakharova, get ready to explain.
    1. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 17 October 2020 15: 06
      0
      Why explanations? We are just waiting for new sanctions.
  • tatra
    tatra 17 October 2020 11: 31
    -1
    As the world history has proved, and in particular, the enemies of the communists after the seizure of the USSR, imposing religion, religion does not teach anything good, but teaches only anger and hatred towards dissidents - towards atheists, towards people of other religions. The most religious are the most vicious, aggressive, cruel, inhuman.
  • Operator
    Operator 17 October 2020 12: 33
    -1
    We need to send more Chechen-270s to France so that they react not only to the Jewish cartoons of Charlie Hebdo, but to the sexual orientation of Emmanuel (God forgive me) Macron laughing
  • Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 17 October 2020 12: 44
    0
    Of course, killing people is very bad. Insulting people's feelings is also bad. Few will remain indifferent if someone relieves himself at the grave of his parents. To kill for this, according to modern concepts, is too much, but poking your face into this will be right. And this murdered man was, of course, an inadequate teacher. He suffered excessively for this, I admit.
  • lis-ik
    lis-ik 17 October 2020 13: 44
    +2
    Well, now gobble up your tolerance with full spoons and preferably overwhelmingly. By the way, even they were tired of her. Now they want to be like normal people, even serials on this topic began to be shot worthy, with humor. And then earlier in the main role: a black man with disabilities, a former special child.
  • Oleg Skvortsov
    Oleg Skvortsov 17 October 2020 14: 15
    +1
    The history teacher walked towards "success." There is no need to offend the feelings of believers - it always ends badly. This is the future of Europe
  • Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 17 October 2020 14: 47
    +1
    French teacher "died for freedom and tolerance"

    There is a way for this tolerance: let him know that tolerance and other "European values" do not lead to good.
    Two questions are interesting:
    1. Will "Charlie Hebdo" draw any pictures on this topic?
    2. The Danish muff who drew these cartoons - is he still alive?
  • Linxs
    Linxs 17 October 2020 16: 58
    +1
    Quote: Seeker
    he deliberately does not understand her.

    Really.
    One head was cut off in the name of Allah and Islam, and the other was cut off against the war in Syria, etc.
    Only Muslims cut their heads.
    And yes.
    There is no difference for you.
  • georggy
    georggy 17 October 2020 18: 00
    +1
    The teacher got what he deserved.
    Incitement of national hatred, which is already encouraged.
    The liquid is dirty, not the teacher.
  • hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 18 October 2020 12: 56
    0
    What is the use for people in the right to be rude to other people?