The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is in no hurry to buy the latest missile system "Neptune"

Despite being put into service, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is in no hurry to purchase the domestic anti-ship missile system "Neptune". This was stated by Oleg Korostelev, General Director-General Designer of the Luch Design Bureau.

According to Korostelev, the developer of the complex, the Kiev design bureau "Luch" has not yet received orders for the production of a coastal version of the anti-ship complex RK-360MTs "Neptune", although the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine adopted the complex in August this year after the end of state tests.

At the same time, the general director of the Luch design bureau emphasized that it will take about one year to manufacture one division, subject to normal cooperation with other enterprises.

We have not yet received an official order, as well as the task of the number of complexes and the timing of their delivery. For our part, we have confirmed in writing our readiness to start mass production of complexes for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Now our production facilities and enterprises with which we work in cooperation in this project, and there are only about 20 of them, allow us to manufacture a division of Neptune missile systems within a year

- declared Korostelev.

Earlier, the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada, Lieutenant General Mikhail Zabrodsky said that the complex was not included in the state defense order of Ukraine for 2020, but the Ministry of Defense, based on the results of the tests, promised to sign a contract for one division, but the promise was never fulfilled.

ZhK-360MTs "Neptune" is a Ukrainian-made low-altitude cruise missile, developed by the Luch Design Bureau and designed to engage sea and ground targets at a distance of up to 300 kilometers. According to experts, the minimum requirement of the Ukrainian Navy for these complexes is at least three divisions.

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[Lionnvrsk]

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is in no hurry to buy the latest missile system "Neptune"

How so ?? !!! But how they rode, how they rode. They said that the entire Azov Sea and even Novorossiysk would be kept under fear. And there is nothing to say about the Crimean bridge. And in the end, at least one division was not even ordered, despite the fact that in theory at least three are required.
Eh, the Ukrainian night is dark!

[credo]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is in no hurry to buy the latest missile system "Neptune"

How so ?? !!! But how they rode, how they rode. They said that the entire Azov Sea and even Novorossiysk would be kept under fear. And there is nothing to say about the Crimean bridge. And in the end, at least one division was not even ordered, despite the fact that in theory at least three are required.
Eh, the Ukrainian night is dark!

I remember this Korostelev, in my opinion in the spring he declared that there were supposedly even cooler developments, if only the state budget would throw money.
Apparently, government officials and the military know the real situation in the Luch design bureau well and did not take Korostelev's words on faith, but decided to buy imported products.

[Suhow]

Probably more income for personal pockets from imports.

[Eldorado]

Where are the all-propals and ancient Ukrainians who shouted that once again "everything is gone, we are sinking the Black Sea Fleet"?

[Orange bigg]

They are not aware that Neptune is currently inoperable, according to the Ukrainians themselves. Hover problems. But for PR, Neptune is just that. But not for war. There is nothing to buy in essence.

A new domestic coastal anti-ship complex with a Neptune cruise missile with a range of 300 km developed by the Luch DKKB, which is part of Ukroboronprom. Taras Chmut, chairman of the board of the Ukrainian Militar Center NGO, said this on the air of Channel 5.
"It was announced that next year we are waiting for the first division consisting of six launchers, these are 4 missiles (Neptune - ed.) On each installation already on duty. However, questions arise about the characteristics of the complex, as well as accuracy and the possibility of hitting surface targets. And the main problem is effective target designation, which today is not fully ensured. That is, the detection of surface targets has not been demonstrated, "Taras Chmut explained.
He noted that it is worth distinguishing between what we can adopt and what actually works and is capable of sinking Russian ships.

“We can accept a raw product even today, yes, it will be a political decision, which will be presented as a victory in the media, but in fact it will not in any way affect any military alignments in the region. that we are not capable of making it and purchasing modern anti-ship missiles and meeting this need. The question is not when, but in quality, "Chmut added.

https://www.5.ua/ru/obshchestvo/est-voprosi-k-kharakterystykam-chmut-o-predstavlennom-otechestvennom-komplekse-s-raketoi-neptun-200710.html

[Niel-le-Calais]

Neptune is currently inoperable, according to the Ukrainians themselves. Hover problems

and here it is

And the most important problem is effective target designation, which today is not fully ensured.

not the same thing.

that is, the detection of surface targets has not been demonstrated, "- explained Taras Chmut.

the target ship caught up with the missile and hit it.
Or by accident. Flew flew and amazed.
They shot at a distance of about 100 km.

[svp67]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

But how they rode, how they rode.

Common practice in ALL countries. There is money - we buy, there is no money - we put it off, the same way the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation arrives, how many modern and promising samples are there, but there are no contracts for them yet, since there is no funding

[TermNachTer]

I especially liked the photo where the plane is attached to the rocket body with self-tapping screws. I hope that the screws were not Chinese)))

[Thrifty]

And now MO uk-roiny will perform its hit, the song "my finances sing romances" ...

[fedorina maria]

A couple of Ukraine's lawsuits against Gazprom and finance will appear. Miller always pays

[Sergey39]

There was no team from Washington. The states do not need competitors. Looking for buyers.

[Doccor18]

And the complex seems to be that ... so-so ...
If it was a decent product, the money would be found so that only Russia and the KChF shit.

[TermNachTer]

There was no complex. There was a window dressing for suckers))) it will not go into service in 5 or 10 years. Although it is unlikely that Banderland will last so long.

[Avior]

Not quite clear
How could there be a state order for 2020, if in 2020 it only passed state tests, if I'm not mistaken

[cniza]

They can do anything, they still don't have a budget for 21 years ...

[Avior]

It seems like 21 is not yet available :)))

[cniza]

They will have it by the middle of 21 ...

[Egoza]

waiting, probably. There will be another privatization and the Poles will be given the first priority. They are waiting, who will buy the "candle factory" there. And in general, what are the claims? Was there a state order? No! And what was there to whom he promised .... you need to see who will remain in power there.

[Alien From]

These are the realities of non-brothers. They can continue to ride.

[prior]

What "Neptune" ?!
President Ze needs to conduct a survey on 5 questions.
Then it will become completely unclear whether "Neptune" or the next re-election is needed ...

[APASUS]

Ukraine takes a loan from the UK for the construction of 10 missile boats. I bet that there will be AGM / RGM / UGM-84 "Harpoon", and ZhK-360MTS "Neptune" will be bent like other missile projects of the country

[Terenin]

Quote: APASUS

Ukraine takes a loan from the UK for the construction of 10 missile boats. I bet that there will be AGM / RGM / UGM-84 "Harpoon", and ZhK-360MTS "Neptune" will be bent like other missile projects of the country

In my opinion, the construction of boats itself is also provided for in the shipyards of Britain. Wow feint Pay with your loan for jobs in another country.

[Avior]

No, only the first in England, further like in Ukraine

[culinary]

Quote: Avior

No, only the first in England, further like in Ukraine

So yes .. But the money for the vehicle kits will go to the island.

[Avior]

A ship is not a car, you cannot bring a kit in a box.
Although a lot will certainly be English.
But this is now a common practice.
It is economically inexpedient to establish one batch of ships for the production of components

[ZEMCH]

Quote: kulinar

aki yes .. But the money for the machine kits will go to the island.

And also spare parts and warranty and post-warranty service))

[Cowbra]

I immediately said. that it will be so. There is no money)))

[maktub]

If my memory serves me, then the budget for 21 years has not yet been adopted

[culinary]

Quote: maktub

If my memory serves me, then the budget for 21 years has not yet been adopted

Memory doesn't change. In normal countries, the budget is taken in the fall.

[maktub]

Or rather, the budget should be adopted before December 1, something like that.
But we had different experiences

[Tagan]

"did not receive orders for the production of the coastal version of the anti-ship complex RK-360MTS" Neptune ", although the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine took the complex into service in August"

Why worry something? The main thing is that they were adopted)))

[Terenin]

Quote: Tagan

"did not receive orders for the production of the coastal version of the anti-ship complex RK-360MTS" Neptune ", although the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine took the complex into service in August"

Why worry something? The main thing is that they were adopted)))

So all complex systems can work effectively only in combination with a host of other weapons systems (observation, reconnaissance, target designation, support ...) military specialists know better.

[hwostatij]

Why did he surrender to them, this Neptune? Luhansk and Donetsk have no ships, and if it comes to war with Russia, then it will simply be necessary to surrender, and especially stubborn ones - to go into the forests. Again, it's inconvenient to shoot from the forest - trees get in the way

[cniza]

Quote: Hwostatij

Again, it's inconvenient to shoot from the forest - trees get in the way

Soon there will be no trees left, everyone will cut down ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: Hwostatij

Luhansk and Donetsk have no ships

The DPR has a number of lightly armed, high-speed small boats, which patrol the sea area under the control of the republic.
And also the protection of fishing boats of fishermen of the DPR who fish ...

[hwostatij]

Well, to shoot at the boat with a PCR ... Somehow it's nipadezzi, chtol ...

[Terenin]

Quote: Hwostatij

and if it comes to war with Russia

So they have been repelling the furious attacks of Russian troops for six years. Their cyborgs are no longer visible behind a pile of spent cartridges (either went for lunch, or to work in Russia)

[hwostatij]

Here you are laughing, and the radicals in the Volga region are already going to load me into sacks in parts ...

[Terenin]

Quote: Hwostatij

Here you are laughing, and the radicals in the Volga region are already going to load me into sacks in parts ...

Tailed, how many times to repeat, reduce your dose of delicious pills

[hwostatij]

Here you change your shoes on the go))) Last time I recommended you to reduce the dose for such a thought, and now you recommend me for your quote)))

[hwostatij]

Although, no, I beg your pardon, I forgot, I got excited about reducing. But he recommended pills, yes ...

[Terenin]

Quote: Hwostatij

Although, no, I beg your pardon, I forgot, I got excited about reducing. But he recommended pills, yes ...

You, doKhTur, better recommend in hospitals to issue flippers instead of shoe covers, at least raise the mood of patients

[hwostatij]

This is what kind of person he was, he voiced exactly opposite thoughts in two posts, they pointed out this to him, but he continues to post ...

[Terenin]

Quote: Hwostatij

voiced exactly opposite thoughts in two posts, they pointed it out to him,

Not too early, Khvostaty, have you appointed yourself head of censorship? And a third person "thinker"?

[Avior]

They can shoot on land.

[culinary]

Quote: Hwostatij

Why did he surrender to them, this Neptune? Luhansk and Donetsk have no ships, and if it comes to war with Russia, then it will simply be necessary to surrender, and especially stubborn ones - to go into the forests. Again, it's inconvenient to shoot from the forest - trees get in the way

What trees! Cut down everywhere.
Let me remind you of the anecdote of perestroika times:
Latvia. Kurzeme. Deforestation.
The Swedish or Western correspondents have arrived.
They ask the owner of the plot: why are you chopping wood?
Answer: we will sell you, we will get currency, we will buy cool cars ...
Question: When will the Russians return, where will you hide?
This is a short summary.

[Vadim_888]

As one famous politician said - there is no money, but you hold on

[Terenin]

Quote: Vadim_888

As one famous politician said - there is no money, but you hold on

It's a good idea to send this big unknown politician to them. Everyone is accepted there.

[Whirlwind]

Let the commander-in-chief Zelya shake. Ascetic in comics, he laughed three tens of millions of his native and beloved greenery. Just three divisions ...

[culinary]

Fuck or fuck?

[Whirlwind]

He's a comedian, not a fagot ...

[culinary]

Quote: Whirlwind

He's a comedian, not a fagot ...

Are you sure?
Politics is such a thing ...
If licked in the ass, do not flatter yourself, it can be grease!

[Whirlwind]

I would not be surprised if so.

[fedorina maria]

Zelensky in Turkey will buy drones that proved to be excellent in Karabakh. And something tells me that next spring Kiev will start solving the problem of Donbass according to the Karabakh scenario.
And Ukraine will find money for this - Gazprom pays fines on the claim of Ukraine

[fedorina maria]

Before minus, give your arguments. And then you turn into urapatriots who come to rage from the truth

[culinary]

Quote: Maria Fedorina

Before minus, give your arguments. And then you turn into urapatriots who come to rage from the truth

Not minus.
But too different weight categories ...
They drew real flags for the Hohpitites.
They will pass, receive the full.
And the Turks will not help, just as the Poles did not help ..

[petrol cutter]

This is more good than bad.
I, gentlemen, have been tired of reporting to you for four years. UA- won't go anywhere. Live with her. Anyway. And you can't close her darling with a hat so easily.
There people are not much more stupid than you and me.
Right now, the missile boats will set themselves up, what will we do? !!.
Already the RF fleet will not feel so at ease. Bo can and shy away some figure. Something heavier than a kettlebell.
With UA, you really have to think something. And something to decide.
I hope specially trained people are doing this.
And the decision must be made yesterday. Otherwise, many sorrows. Which are easier to prevent initially than to treat later.

[paco.soto]

... And you can't close her darling with a hat so easily.
There people are not much more stupid than you and I are sitting. ©

Plus you for your sober thinking and the best commentary in this "bird market", which unfortunately the VO forum has turned into!

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: maktub

If my memory serves me, then the budget for 21 years has not yet been adopted

and a hole in the future budget of 250 billion hryvnias seems to hint that everything will be modest

[Victorm]

Quote: Petrol cutter

This is more good than bad.
I, gentlemen, have been tired of reporting to you for four years. UA- won't go anywhere. Live with her. Anyway. And you can't close her darling with a hat so easily.
There people are not much more stupid than you and me.
Right now, the missile boats will set themselves up, what will we do? !!.
Already the RF fleet will not feel so at ease. Bo can and shy away some figure. Something heavier than a kettlebell.
With UA, you really have to think something. And something to decide.
I hope specially trained people are doing this.
And the decision must be made yesterday. Otherwise, many sorrows. Which are easier to prevent initially than to treat later.

Fortunately for Russia and unfortunately for Ukraine, in the latter, really patriotic forces and statesmen have not yet come to power. Despite the collapse and downtime of many enterprises, Ukraine possesses both industry, technologies and personnel. Plus, we must not forget that Ukrainians are good fighters and have strong military traditions. And given the fact that this is a 40-million-strong country, the result may be quite unpleasant for Russia.
But this is all a subjunctive mood, so far the oligarchs, fellow tribesmen of the Russian leadership, are tearing Ukraine apart.

[petrol cutter]

Are you telling me this ?!
I am from Crimea, ex UA.
I know this whole kitchen not by hearsay.

[Avior]

Is it really an ex?
The passport is Ukrainian, frankly, stuck in the closet?

[petrol cutter]

Sure. After all, no one asked the FMS to hand over UA passports (he was surprised why?).
If they demanded, they would pass.
In addition, comrade-he is no longer valid due to his expiration. You will laugh, but I turned forty-five. And to resume its action, I personally have neither the desire nor the time.
I'm tired of changing Russian to a new one. The whole epic turned out to be. With a time off from work (at my own expense) twice / taking a new heap of photocopies / re-photographing, my brought photos did not like the MFC employees.
So you cast a shadow on the fence to direct me here.
We’ll check your registration. Why not?!..

[hwostatij]

Strange you have there MFC. Here you bring the originals of documents and photographs - they all take care of themselves. The whole action takes 10 minutes. It's easy to manage at lunchtime.

[petrol cutter]

Again twenty six. You have something with you.
There is a gray area. And their own rules for playing the accordion

[hwostatij]

I will not argue, in Crimea I have not encountered the local bureaucracy. The only strange thing is that there are different protocols for the work of government agencies in different regions.

[petrol cutter]

I will tell you more. There is a lot of strange things here.
Many from the mainland are surprised.
Nevertheless, the fact remains.
We are under-Russia. By the way, I was afraid of this situation at one time. Those. as if RF, but not quite. Plus, now you have to constantly prove to someone that you are a mother for Russia.
Such is the "squiggle" ...

[Suhow]

Gee, now both the Russian Federation and Ukraine in the Crimea, count ___ was under occupation ___

[Avior]

it was a joke, of course. The whole Crimea is in your position.
The fact that you did not paste the picture in 45 does not change the situation.

[petrol cutter]

What changes the situation? And what kind of situation are we planning to change? Apparently need to sign with blood?
In which document?

[Old26]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Hover problems.

Actually, the problem is not with guidance, but with target designation.

Quote: Doccor18

And the complex seems to be that ... so-so ...
If it was a decent product, the money would be found so that only Russia and the KChF shit.

Yes, a normal complex. Conventional subsonic anti-ship missiles. An analogue of the American "Harpoon", our "Uranus". For Ukraine, the most it. Not heavy, you can put on their floating craft.

[svoit]

Quote: VictorM

Ukrainians are good fighters and have strong military traditions

You mean the Bandera bandit underground 70-80 years ago?

[Victorm]

Quote: Avior

Is it really an ex?
The passport is Ukrainian, frankly, stuck in the closet?

All Crimeans who lived in Crimea at the time of the annexation have them. Whom I know only from them they go abroad to work, study, rest. By the way, many study in Ukraine.
Here is your "road home" ...

[mu1972]

the fact is that unexpectedly Soviet missiles ran out in warehouses ...