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A batch of modernized T-72B3M tanks entered the Central Military District

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A batch of modernized T-72B3M tanks entered the Central Military District

Modernized party tanks T-72B3M entered service with the Guards Vitebsk-Novgorod twice Red Banner tank division of the Central Military District. This was announced by the commander of the Central Military District, Colonel-General Alexander Lapin, said the press service of the Central Military District.


The division reportedly received 10 upgraded T-72B3M tanks with improved combat characteristics. The received vehicles are undergoing training, after which they will be involved in the control check of the division for 2020.

(...) 10 T-72B3M tanks with improved combat characteristics entered service with the Central Military District's Guards Tank Division. The new technology will increase the combat capabilities of the compound through improved maneuverability and armor protection of the crew. This combat vehicle is equipped with a new engine, a complex of built-in passive and active protection, as well as a communication system "Aqueduct", a multi-channel sight "Sosna-U" with a thermal imager

- said in a statement.

As previously reported, the T-72B3M tank received a B-92S2F engine with a capacity of 1130 hp. and an automatic gearbox, on the turret and hull of the tank, the "Relic" dynamic protection is installed, more reliable tracked tracks are installed.

The Guards Vitebsk-Novgorod twice Red Banner tank division of the Central Military District was formed on December 1, 2016. It includes 3 tank, motorized rifle and self-propelled artillery regiments, an anti-aircraft missile battalion, a reconnaissance and engineer battalion, units and subunits of combat, logistic and technical support.
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  1. Insurgent
    Insurgent 16 October 2020 14: 27
    +4
    A batch of modernized T-72B3M tanks entered the Central Military District



    on the turret and the hull of the tank is a dynamic protection "Relic"


    "Relic" is good, but still the protection of the projections of the vehicle turret seems to me insufficient.

    There are other examples of the installation of dynamic protection elements, which more closely overlap the area of ​​possible damage.

    Serbian tank m-84as1, practically a "clone" of the progenitor of the T-72 ...



    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 16 October 2020 15: 06
      +2
      It is not a fact that the location of the DZ indicated by you is better than that of the progenitor (I agree, there is no fountain there either).
      There is no confirmation of this, the Serbian tank did not take part in the database, and the filling of the "boxes" is unknown. I myself, for a long time thought that there was just a plate of explosives inside. In fact, it turned out to be wrong.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 16 October 2020 15: 15
        -5
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        It is not a fact that the location of the DZ indicated by you is better than that of the progenitor (I agree, there is no fountain there either).
        There is no confirmation of this, the Serbian tank did not take part in the database, and the filling of the "boxes" is unknown. I myself, for a long time thought that there was just a plate of explosives inside. In fact, it turned out to be wrong.

        Exactly and not only what will happen to the dense location of reactive armor after one hit? Would the rest of us explode?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 16 October 2020 15: 47
          +3
          Quote: Observer2014
          That's it and not only that what will happen to the dense arrangement of reactive armor after one hit? Will the rest rush ?


          So that DO NOT declare , it would not be bad to have an idea of ​​another layout of the "DZ" on the T-90 ...

          On it, won't it explode? Or in the design bureau of Serbia (and Russia), fool sit?
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 16 October 2020 16: 04
            +1
            I choose and trust the design bureau of Russia in this matter. Well, what what can tanks do. And the new tower for the T90 M so that there are further ways of scientific research. By the way, there are no elements of the "Blind" A T-72 B3M is a working horse in armor. From the word mass. And at a cost less than T90 M. It's like the AK assault rifle was invented, invented. And in warehouses there are millions of AK 74. They counted. We stopped on new body kits. But the new ones do not forget about the AK either. Or do you think that the Russian General Staff does not know about the pros and cons of the new modernization for the T-72?
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 16 October 2020 16: 07
              +1
              Quote: Observer2014
              I choose and trust the design bureau of Russia in this matter. Tanks can do what and what. And the new tower for the T90 M so that there are further ways of scientific research. By the way, there are no elements of the "Blind" A T-72 B3M is a working horse in armor. From the word mass. And at a cost less than T90 M. It's like the AK assault rifle was invented, invented. And in warehouses there are millions of AK 74. They counted. We stopped on new body kits. But the new ones do not forget about the AK either.


              "Elderberry in the garden, and uncle in Lisichansk"a set of verbal and liquid,"about everything and nothing"...

              О dynamic protection specifically, and schemes of its location, is there anything to say?
              1. Observer2014
                Observer2014 16 October 2020 16: 11
                -4
                Quote: Insurgent
                Quote: Observer2014
                I choose and trust the design bureau of Russia in this matter. Tanks can do what and what. And the new tower for the T90 M so that there are further ways of scientific research. By the way, there are no elements of the "Blind" A T-72 B3M is a working horse in armor. From the word mass. And at a cost less than T90 M. It's like the AK assault rifle was invented, invented. And in warehouses there are millions of AK 74. They counted. We stopped on new body kits. But the new ones do not forget about the AK either.


                "Elderberry in the garden, and uncle in Lisichansk"a set of verbal and liquid,"about everything and nothing"...

                О dynamic protection specifically, and schemes of its location, is there anything to say?

                That everything is fine for this modernization. This particular tank. T-72 B3M. And that the whole tower will not explode from being hit by a single projectile. This is already guaranteed. I have no idea how your Serbian will behave. Suddenly, after the first hit, everything will fly off the armor along with all the instruments and optics.
          2. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 18 October 2020 11: 59
            -1
            Quote: Insurgent
            Or in the design bureau of Serbia (and Russia), fool sit?

            Design Bureau of Serbia has never been in nature fool , T-72 was produced under the license of the USSR, after the collapse of Yugoslavia, Serbia cannot produce tanks, but only modernize ... fellow
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 16 October 2020 15: 16
        +3
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        It is not a fact that the location of the DZ indicated by you is better than that of the progenitor

        The "progenitor", the T-72, was originally "naked" in the "original" ...

        Calling it as such for the Serbian m-84as1, I only emphasize that the configurations of the hull contours are almost identical, and the layout of the DZ during the modernization is different.
        And personally, it seems to me that the Serbian scheme provides the best protection.

        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        the Serbian tank did not participate in the database, and the filling of the "boxes" is unknown.


        Not about the quality of DZ and its characteristics speech (whose is better, and whose is worse) ... Read my previous comment again if you didn't get it.

        I wrote about the location of the remote sensing elements on the tower, which provides better coverage "without holes" observed from different projections.
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 16 October 2020 15: 20
          -3
          I carefully read it and pointed out that it is possible to stick it all over with a second layer, but against the same tandem cumulative, if there is the first generation, it will not save!
          And I rode both "naked" seventy twos and protected ones.
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            1. The leader of the Redskins
              The leader of the Redskins 16 October 2020 15: 31
              -6
              There are other examples of the installation of dynamic protection elements, which more closely overlap the area of ​​possible damage.
              Did you write about the "relic"? Or did they give you an example of a remote control not known to you in terms of content, but liked in form?
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 16 October 2020 15: 42
                +2
                Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                Did you write about the "relic"?

                Phenomenal! yes What brake is holding you (and the designers of the remote sensing) to think over a similar scheme for the "Relic" or him "creative rethinking"in order to provide more complete protection of the tank?

                Or will tankers go from "modernization" to "modernization" to ride in cars with "holes" in the remote control?

                I, unlike you, supposedly a tanker, "picked" DZ for the purpose of extraction "plastid"for my infantry needs, and I can imagine what's inside, and that, in general, to give the" DZ "element the necessary configuration" at the installation site "is not such a scientific complexity. The main thing is that the operating conditions are met ...
      3. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 16 October 2020 15: 18
        +5
        "I myself, for a long time thought that there was just a plate of explosives inside" ///
        ----
        Inside there is a structure like this:
    2. user1212
      user1212 16 October 2020 15: 14
      +4
      Quote: Insurgent
      There are other examples of the installation of dynamic protection elements, which more closely overlap the area of ​​possible damage.

      Are you sure about that? lol

      The "dense" arrangement of the enclosures does not mean a greater level of protection. Let's assume for a second that people who have been creating remote sensing systems for more than half a century already understand what is best for protecting a tank.
      1. disyptiformer
        disyptiformer 16 October 2020 16: 05
        -1
        Why t-64 (Bulat), there are 4 times more explosives. + behind the escutcheon, to avoid. And it didn't solve anything.
        Вот что решило:https://youtu.be/he1wk1qNN68?list=RDhe1wk1qNN68
        And everything and everything burned down.
    3. pereselenec
      pereselenec 16 October 2020 16: 26
      0
      It's useless against a drone anyway.
  2. Doccor18
    Doccor18 16 October 2020 14: 32
    +1
    It is very gratifying that the equipment is undergoing timely modernization.
    However, how can these odes ...
    ... 10 T-72B3M tanks entered service with the guards tank division of the Central Military District ... The new equipment will increase the combat capabilities of the connection ...

    10 tanks will increase the combat capabilities of the DIVISION ... yeah ...
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 16 October 2020 14: 57
      0
      And how do you imagine rearmament?) To drive a hundred and make a division unfit for combat for a couple of months?))) A gradual replacement makes it possible to switch to new equipment by units smoothly. Without loss of fighting efficiency
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 16 October 2020 15: 07
        +8
        Yes, it's not about rearmament. The fact is that 10 vehicles can increase the combat capabilities of a maximum battalion, but not even a regiment / brigade, and even more so a division. That's what I'm writing about. This one, like 10 KV tanks, increased the capabilities of the tank corps during the Second World War. The rearmament is going well, smoothly and according to plan - well, but these super-patriotic opuses sometimes look ironic.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 16 October 2020 15: 15
          +2
          This is called rearmament) the company will retrain and will come to the next one) I will remind you that over the years more than 1200 units have already been installed b3)
    2. frog
      frog 17 October 2020 10: 41
      +2
      Who is being upgraded? What is being upgraded? If you are talking about this opus, then in general everything is controversial and strange. We take the same venerable topvar https://topwar.ru/35631-t-72b3chto-eto-za-zver-chast-1.html, almost 7 years ago. material - 8 ++, if not 9. Then they wrote ..... And what do we see? That the frantic modernization has not changed in 7 years, that we are modernizing everything less than 14 cars a month. That is, on the news of the further apalk of this magnificence, you can simply ... if you want to put it, you want to throw it. From the above text, we can generally conclude that all modernization is the letter "M" plus the price. Perhaps they pissed off the chassis without replacing it. And, they also painted ...
  3. ole1
    ole1 16 October 2020 14: 40
    0
    Are there the same holes in ERA as in the previous version of T72B3 (without M)?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 16 October 2020 16: 14
      +1
      Quote: ole1
      Are there the same holes in ERA as in the previous version of T72B3 (without M)?

      The bald piece of the tower above the mechanic drive hatch was closed by the remote control.
      1. MMX
        MMX 16 October 2020 16: 40
        +2
        And where is the armor covering the machine gun arrow ???
      2. frei67
        frei67 16 October 2020 16: 42
        0
        there was a hole because of the mechanic drive. so as not to knock your head when leaving the car
      3. ole1
        ole1 16 October 2020 20: 44
        0
        already progress)
      4. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 16 October 2020 21: 54
        0
        For some reason I always liked this one more
      5. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 16 October 2020 22: 54
        +5
        And the commander did not have panoramas as well as new ones. And the fact that the machine gun became controllable from inside the tank was also not heard.
  4. Alien From
    Alien From 16 October 2020 14: 51
    -3
    There would be more of them. Time-tested technique.
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 16 October 2020 14: 55
    +1
    Yes, the modernization leaves much to be desired! These tanks are good only on a training ground, or in a region far from the regions bordering on NATO and the European Union, otherwise they will be burned quickly. ..
  6. Andylw
    Andylw 16 October 2020 14: 57
    +6
    correctly.
    and we will carry fittings that have no analogues in the world at parades)))).
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 16 October 2020 15: 20
      +1
      Quote: AndyLW
      correctly.
      and we will carry fittings that have no analogues in the world at parades)))).

      And AndyLW, where are we going to show?
  7. Asad
    Asad 16 October 2020 15: 19
    -1
    But what about the T90, which is Vladimir?
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 16 October 2020 15: 21
      +3
      Supplied to the troops. We started with Sevastopol. She was on them in the parade and passed
      1. Asad
        Asad 16 October 2020 15: 22
        0
        I thought they would change everything for a new one.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 16 October 2020 15: 35
          0
          These are plans for decades. This is not done quickly.
  8. Hwostatij
    Hwostatij 16 October 2020 16: 15
    0
    Not enough money for KAZ again? sad
    1. MMX
      MMX 16 October 2020 16: 42
      -2
      Quote: Hwostatij
      Not enough money for KAZ again? sad

      This tank is a consumable. He is not entitled to KAZ by status.
      1. _Ugene_
        _Ugene_ 16 October 2020 17: 27
        +4
        This tank is a consumable. He is not entitled to KAZ by status.
        Is the crew also a consumable? The status is not allowed, women still give birth
        1. MMX
          MMX 17 October 2020 13: 03
          0
          Quote: _Ugene_
          This tank is a consumable. He is not entitled to KAZ by status.
          Is the crew also a consumable? The status is not allowed, women still give birth


          In our country, the crew was even more a consumable. At all times.
      2. Alex777
        Alex777 16 October 2020 18: 16
        +1
        https://topwar.ru/176155-rossijskie-tanki-t-72b3m-i-t-80bvm-projdut-dalnejshuju-modernizaciju.html
        The arena will be staged.
        1. Hwostatij
          Hwostatij 16 October 2020 18: 34
          -2
          Yeah, apparently, in the interval between refueling and loading ammunition
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 16 October 2020 18: 50
            +2
            Are you not a reader? Are you a writer? lol
            1. Hwostatij
              Hwostatij 16 October 2020 18: 57
              0
              Quote: Alex777
              Are you not a reader? Are you a writer? lol

              Well, yes). But just what should I have read through your link? Will there ever be an upgrade to newly upgraded tanks? I hope it will.
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 16 October 2020 18: 59
                +2
                So I hope. They asked about KAZ - I sent that there is.
                1. Hwostatij
                  Hwostatij 16 October 2020 19: 02
                  -3
                  The arena will be staged.

                  Well, don't you argue so categorically then, chtol ...
    2. lucul
      lucul 16 October 2020 18: 04
      +2
      Not enough money for KAZ again?

      Is the tank going forward with the infantry? Or the infantry for a kilometer will bypass its equipped KAZ tank? )))
      1. Hwostatij
        Hwostatij 16 October 2020 18: 51
        0
        Well, it's definitely not worth riding on armor, and according to the combat manual, no one bothers to act
      2. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 16 October 2020 23: 12
        -1
        It depends on what kind of KAZ.
        If the Ukrainian "Zaslon", then yes, you have to be hundreds of meters away from it, and you would have to remove your equipment away from the tank equipped with it, as it will beat all the optics, triplex, headlights, etc.
        Our "Arena" is more accurate: it hits with a bunch of fragments from top to bottom.

        "Afghanit" generally shoots a shock core towards the enemy's ammunition. The fragments will be, perhaps, from the collapsed enemy shell.
      3. _Ugene_
        _Ugene_ 17 October 2020 13: 57
        0
        Is the tank going forward with the infantry? Or the infantry for a kilometer will bypass its equipped KAZ tank? )))
        why are you repeating all this nonsense? Is it really incomprehensible that together with the infantry, the KAZ can simply be turned off, and without the infantry, turned on
        Without modern KAZ covering the entire hemisphere, armored vehicles become too vulnerable, kamikaze drones cost a penny compared to the cost of a tank
        1. lucul
          lucul 17 October 2020 14: 29
          0
          Is it really incomprehensible that together with the infantry, the KAZ can simply be turned off, and without the infantry, turned on

          So your tank is advancing along with the infantry, or rushing forward alone? )))
          You will decide first)))
          1. _Ugene_
            _Ugene_ 17 October 2020 14: 58
            0
            depending on the situation, or do you think tanks only attacked by infantry at a speed of 4-5 km / h? watch all the videos of the defeat of tanks by drones and drones from Karabakh and Syria, and now answer - how would the infantry help them?
            1. lucul
              lucul 17 October 2020 15: 02
              +1
              depending on the situation,

              What does it mean depending on the situation?
              Here's an introduction to you - attack with the forces of the division - will the infantry go along with the tanks, or will the tanks go alone?
              Or are you going to scale it up to the army format for partisan warfare (with single tanks)?
              1. _Ugene_
                _Ugene_ 17 October 2020 15: 14
                0
                What does it mean depending on the situation?
                This means that in one situation the tanks will go with the infantry, in another situation other armored vehicles, helicopters, etc. will provide support. I ask you again -
                in your opinion, tanks only surrounded by infantry at a speed of 4-5 km / h advance, as in the Second World War?
                How would the infantry help armored vehicles destroyed by drones?
                let all the tanks burn with drones but surrounded by infantry, iron logic
                1. lucul
                  lucul 17 October 2020 15: 18
                  +1
                  I ask you again -
                  in your opinion, tanks only surrounded by infantry at a speed of 4-5 km / h advance, as in the Second World War?
                  How would the infantry help armored vehicles destroyed by drones?
                  let all the tanks burn with drones but surrounded by infantry, iron logic

                  I gave you an introduction - the offensive by the forces of the division, and you ask me in response.
                  A repeated question - the offensive by the forces of the division, how will the infantry advance, with or without tanks?
                  1. _Ugene_
                    _Ugene_ 17 October 2020 15: 24
                    0
                    because of demagogues like you, we are in the last century and stuck
                    1. lucul
                      lucul 17 October 2020 15: 28
                      +1
                      because of demagogues like you, we are in the last century and stuck

                      Ie there is nothing to answer?
                      You are a divisional commander, the task is to occupy a city / port / object. Call your subordinates and say - attack, depending on the circumstances?
                      So ?
  9. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 16 October 2020 23: 46
    0
    The new V-92S2F is good ... The new DZ Relic is good ... The new Sosna-U sight is good ... and so on and so on ... And what about the new shells ... BOPS Vacuum-1 for example. In the case of "modernization" it is necessary to increase the firepower, but it will be necessary to alter the inside of the tank, but without a new BOPS we will not be able to guarantee to hit the enemy tanks (NATO).
  10. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 18 October 2020 11: 33
    -1
    A batch of modernized T-72B3M tanks entered service with the Guards Vitebsk-Novgorod twice Red Banner Tank Division of the Central Military District.

    Actually, first they write the name of the connection ...
    There are only two TDs in the RF Armed Forces ... (at least they could be armed with the T-90MS?) ...
    Article about the 90th Guards Tank Vitebsk-Novgorod twice Red Banner Division
    (Conditional name - Military unit No. 86274 (military unit 86274). Abbreviated name - 90 Guards. Etc.).
    Until 1992, the unit was part of the Soviet Northern Group of Forces.