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Weak ruble: pros from Manturov and cons in life

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Weak ruble: pros from Manturov and cons in life

They won't tell ours?



The ruble has recently quite unexpectedly become the subject of heated discussions among officials and experts. At the same time, in Russia, the majority spoke about him and his prospects without optimism, while abroad the Russian currency was called and is called almost the most promising.

One of the first media outlets to come out with positive forecasts for the ruble was Bloomberg (Why is Bloomberg betting on the ruble?), which has never been distinguished by loyalty to the Russian leadership, with the exception of the financial and economic block of the government.

Apparently, based on this, the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov this week decided in a detailed interview with Bloomberg correspondents to talk very frankly about what the last soft devaluation of the ruble gave Russia.

Bloomberg called it soft, but for Russians it did not come as a shock just because it happened during the first wave of coronavirus. Since then, little has changed, although the ruble also approached the second wave of COVID-19 clearly not in the best condition. He overcame, and already, it seems, finally, the psychologically important milestone of 90 to the euro.

This in no way diminished optimism among foreign analysts about the prospects for the Russian currency, and they are with obvious satisfaction replicating the statements of the Russian minister in favor of a weak ruble.

The Russian press did not hear anything like this from the Minister of Industry and Trade; they had to reprint it from Bloomberg. According to him, the ruble, which has fallen significantly in exchange rate, is beneficial primarily for those companies that do not depend on imports.

It is not easy to say how many of them are in Russia today, but clearly not as many as Mr. Manturov would probably like. And clearly less than it was during the first global devaluation of the ruble after the default in 1998.

Then the rate on the weak ruble worked quite well, albeit in combination with a number of more stringent measures. Starting with fixing non-payments and ending with the tightening of currency and export controls.

Nevertheless, Denis Manturov, like Bloomberg analysts, is also ready to radiate optimism. He has no doubts that the fall in the ruble exchange rate will reorient enterprises to the domestic market.


Completely forgetting that a colossal share of currently operating enterprises in Russia is either screwdriver assemblies of components coming from abroad, or plants and factories operating on foreign raw materials.

And how they should reorient themselves is a big question.

Trite, but true


Banal misconceptions almost always have to be refuted by equally banal arguments. However, this does not negate the need for these arguments to be heard as regularly as the controversial statements of officials.

So, we quote from Manturov: the weakening of the ruble is beneficial to Russian exporters - fertilizer producers, gold mining and metallurgical companies. And there is even a clarification: "their pre-tax profit will grow by 10-20 percent."

The minister simply forgot about the oil and gas workers, and perhaps justifiably: they are recouping for losses due to the decline in oil and, as a result, gas prices, just on the domestic market. And in Russia, gasoline prices are growing, while all over the world they are decreasing.

The minister did not focus on the fact that a weak ruble is beneficial for those who have minimal debts in foreign currency and a large share of ruble expenses. The journalists did it for him. But they did not pay attention to the fact that such companies are by no means the majority in Russia, and they now also have serious problems with the fall in demand.

The minister did not hide his joy for those companies that are not heavily dependent on imports. They are, in his words, "now in an advantageous position." Specifically, Mr. Manturov did not name anyone, and he would hardly be able to: such enterprises have long been no longer among the leaders of the Russian market, and they by no means try to keep themselves in sight.

The limit of the minister's banal optimism was not exhausted by this. He decided to express the hope that "the peak is over", and at the same time to note that "the recovery in many industries has been very rapid." For my part, I would like to remind the minister that the effect of a low base must have worked here: it seems that there was almost nowhere to fall.

And prices will rise again


In parallel with the speculations about the Russian ruble, which were too similar to a sanctioned impromptu, Minister Manturov decided to remind our colleagues that the Russian economy was recovering in the summer after the cancellation of some of the sanitary measures introduced earlier due to the new coronavirus.

In this context, the official preferred to remain silent about the second wave, but made his forecast for the reduction of industrial production in Russia. Bloomberg reports that, according to the minister's estimates, it could reach 4,5% by the end of the year.

Someone always has reason to believe that it is good that the depreciation of the ruble allows them to take more successful competitive positions. But there are too many factors that do not allow us to stay on the devaluation needle indefinitely.

And among them, such as sharply increased spending on tourism, as well as the inability to buy currencies for a rainy day, are far from in the first place. Much more dangerous now is the prospect of practically inevitable inflation. And it will not be slowed down even by a greatly reduced consumer demand

The thing is that the Russian market is literally overflowing with goods, either simply imported, or with a solid contribution of imported raw materials or components to the cost price. As soon as stocks from old purchases in warehouses run out, expect an inevitable rise in prices.

The games of petrol kings will certainly affect the rise in prices. Having won back against you and me, they not only covered the losses in exports, but also further stimulated the fall of the ruble in order to win also on taxes.

We can only remember that the transport component in Russia is far from the smallest component in the final price of a particular product. And it is unlikely that it will be possible to compensate for it by lowering the level of staff pay.

There is one more important subtlety, which is not always paid attention to when speaking for a weak ruble. It only seems that the depreciation of the national currency will untie the hands of the same Central Bank in order to print more rubles and maintain high liquidity.

With liquidity and a cheap ruble, huge problems will remain. In addition, because of the low and, moreover, regularly decreasing by sharp jumps in the ruble exchange rate, we are unable to take root and low credit interest. Banks simply insure themselves against a fall in the exchange rate by overstating the difference in the rates at which they give money to someone or accept deposits.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 19 October 2020 12: 03 New
    43
    Nevertheless, Denis Manturov, like Bloomberg analysts, is also ready to radiate optimism.
    Bastards. angry
    1. Snarkxnumx
      Snarkxnumx 19 October 2020 12: 18 New
      24
      Needless to say, I completely agree with you. Bastards "Pulling an owl on the globe" is at the expense of the population. This is how our budget is formed. When the government is not accountable to the population, it loses its conscience
      1. prior
        prior 19 October 2020 12: 38 New
        24
        The existing selection of individuals for power does not presuppose the presence of conscience a priori.
      2. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 20 October 2020 00: 18 New
        +7
        Quote: Snark1876
        When the government is not accountable to the population, it loses its conscience

        What is the conscience under capitalism? This moral obligation, based on the moral philosophy and value system of the individual, simply interferes with achieving success in the current paradigm of the market "thinking". Remember TD Dunning with his: "There is no such crime that capital would not go for the sake of 300% profit."
        Probably not worth explaining the fact that the representatives of the current government represent the interests in this very government, not the proletarians. hi
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 19 October 2020 12: 45 New
      12
      The minister did not hide his joy

      Key phrase. And this can be said about any minister and most of the top.
    3. Alien From
      Alien From 19 October 2020 13: 03 New
      +5
      There are no censorship words on them am
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 19 October 2020 13: 14 New
        28
        resource-rich country - poor old people and sick children ... cool power! Come on, burn "confused", throw minuses so that you can be seen.
        1. Alien From
          Alien From 19 October 2020 13: 28 New
          +2
          It will easily fly to you now laughing
        2. Snail N9
          Snail N9 19 October 2020 13: 28 New
          17
          It's simple: the state has all its savings in gold reserves, and social obligations to the population are salaries, pensions, benefits and other payments in rubles. The lower the ruble exchange rate, the less gold reserves is needed for various payments to the population. However, a weak currency, and even coupled with sanctions restrictions, especially in terms of lending to Russians in Western banks, is an unambiguous verdict of the business activity of the population, demand, etc. ruble is an economic disaster, a direct path to the impoverishment and bankruptcy of the majority of the country's population ...
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 19 October 2020 14: 49 New
            +6
            Quote: Snail N9
            Tightening the stranglehold around the neck of the population by establishing beggarly wages, and even aggravated by a sharp drop in the ruble exchange rate, is an economic catastrophe, a straight path ...

            ... to repeat the fate of the USSR!
            1. at84432384
              at84432384 19 October 2020 21: 11 New
              +4
              The USSR ordered to live long not for economic reasons.
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 19 October 2020 21: 16 New
                -2
                Quote: at84432384
                The USSR ordered to live long not for economic reasons.

                Seriously? Have you ever lived in the last 10 years of the USSR? laughing
                1. at84432384
                  at84432384 19 October 2020 22: 03 New
                  10
                  I have been since 1956. I have lived and visited many corners of the vast Motherland. And he saw what was where and how, and studied. Constantly, and now I am learning. The USSR economy accounted for 20% of the world economy and grew at 6% per year. And the empty counters were organized by the party nomenclature. Both their names and their actions are now known. It had nothing to do with the economy.
              2. Terrible GMO
                Terrible GMO 19 October 2020 21: 35 New
                -5
                Quote: at84432384
                The USSR ordered to live long not for economic reasons.

                Has the West ruined? request Or more than 40% of all funds wasted on the military-industrial complex and gifts to Arabs, Chinese and Africans.
                1. at84432384
                  at84432384 19 October 2020 22: 23 New
                  +9
                  Well, the USSR did not make any special gifts, but always had economic and political benefits from its "gifts". It became possible for the outspoken enemy Turkey to build at his own expense a gas pipeline and a nuclear power plant only in the Russian Federation. And investments in the military-industrial complex of the USSR are still protecting today's Russia from external invasion. Prominent Russian historians and economists, such as Spitsyn, Fursov, Khazin, Delyagin and many others, have thoroughly studied who destroyed the USSR. This is no longer a secret.
                  1. Terrible GMO
                    Terrible GMO 19 October 2020 22: 54 New
                    -4
                    Quote: at84432384
                    but always had economic and political benefits from his "gifts"

                    An incredible benefit from hundreds of millions of rubles thrown into China, North Korea, Africa and the Arabs. Unless you count knives in the back as a benefit.
        3. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 19 October 2020 13: 29 New
          11
          Quote: Dead Day
          Come on, burn "confused", throw minuses so that you can be seen.

          It is not visible, unfortunately, who puts the minuses.
          1. Alf
            Alf 19 October 2020 14: 55 New
            14
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Quote: Dead Day
            Come on, burn "confused", throw minuses so that you can be seen.

            It is not visible, unfortunately, who puts the minuses.

            The forum rules clearly state.

            How many times have I personally turned to the admins on this issue, in response to proud silence. Maybe because the picture will then be unsightly?
        4. Virus-free crown
          Virus-free crown 19 October 2020 13: 52 New
          +6
          Quote: Dead Day
          resource-rich country - poor old people and sick children ... cool power! Come on, burn "confused", throw minuses so that you can be seen.

          I gave you a plus sign for the post !!! Let them throw cons to me tongue
        5. Polente the Wanderer
          Polente the Wanderer 19 October 2020 18: 36 New
          +2
          "throw cons" ...
          All comments for one goal - to earn a rating?
        6. Oreshek
          Oreshek 19 October 2020 19: 17 New
          -14 qualifying.
          Quote: Dead Day
          resource-rich country - poor old people and sick children ... cool power! Come on, burn "confused", throw minuses so that you can be seen.

          Do you dream about the times of Yeltsin and a hunchback? Well, well .. I see there are a lot of them and everything is in status ..
          Who benefits from all this, I hope? Or was it pleasant for you when Russia was thrown into a bloody confusion .. Now is the time, at the borders the fire is kindled and Down with screams to the delight of the owners .. well, well
    4. Hypertension
      Hypertension 19 October 2020 13: 21 New
      +7
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Nevertheless, Denis Manturov, like Bloomberg analysts, is also ready to radiate optimism.
      Bastards. angry

      Ready to radiate optimism, but what about radiation from induced radiation somewhere in the mines, Mr. Manturov?
    5. Sandor Clegane
      Sandor Clegane 19 October 2020 13: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Bastards.

      of course scoundrels, it's a pity that now we can no longer influence this ((
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 19 October 2020 14: 17 New
        +7
        Quote: Sandor Clegane
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Bastards.

        of course scoundrels, it's a pity that now we can no longer influence this ((

        Why? .. as far as we can.
      2. at84432384
        at84432384 19 October 2020 21: 14 New
        +3
        When could they?
    6. Varyag71
      Varyag71 19 October 2020 13: 37 New
      0
      But 3 lackeys do not agree.
    7. RealPilot
      RealPilot 19 October 2020 13: 38 New
      +4
      At the same time, in Russia, the majority spoke about him and his prospects without optimism, while abroad the Russian currency was called and is called almost the most promising.


      Sure! Foreign capital senses that it is time to rob ...
      When they scold here and praise there - this is a clear reason to think about it!

      Look at the satisfied Manturov! It is immediately clear that he has a complete order on his currency account No.


      You can now buy more for green and pink notes here.
      Let me illustrate with an example: a foreman from Moldova (very, by the way, a hard-working and worthy person), who is doing our repairs, said that he changed euros for rubles and is very pleased ... All things are now more profitable to buy in Russia, and he will be properly stocked before leaving home.

      This is temporary, of course - until prices catch up with the rate ... We are waiting for inflation! belay
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 19 October 2020 15: 35 New
        +9
        Quote: RealPilot
        Foreign capital senses that it is time to rob ...

        Personally, it makes no difference to me whether Anglo-American capital is robbing me or our "native", spiritually strong capital.
    8. Svarog
      Svarog 19 October 2020 14: 16 New
      18
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Nevertheless, Denis Manturov, like Bloomberg analysts, is also ready to radiate optimism.
      Bastards. angry

      Bastards are not the right word .. also greedy fools who cannot look two steps ahead. This greed will destroy them.
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 19 October 2020 14: 33 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        who cannot look two steps ahead

        Colleague, you are wrong, they all have "alternate airfields" ready for a long time. They are slowly getting ready for the fact that sooner or later they will start lifting the forks.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 19 October 2020 14: 51 New
          +3
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          they all have "spare airfields" ready for a long time

          and on GDP they are expected ... like Lazarenko, from whom all the babos were taken away and still imprisoned
          1. at84432384
            at84432384 19 October 2020 21: 24 New
            +7
            These guys don't know history. A hundred years ago, the liberal public rushed from Russia to Europe and America with their capitals, so what? They were not accepted for their own. The wealthiest, the last of the Ryabushinskys, passed away in a hospital for the homeless, although for some time he even owned a bank in London. And the current ones will simply be wrapped up to the skin (at best, at worst, they will be jailed) due to the corruption of their "acquired".
    9. TuM0305
      TuM0305 19 October 2020 14: 31 New
      +2
      So why are we all sitting on the couch and not going to rallies, if they have already lost everyone shame? What's the use of writing here, how are we going to organize? What city are you from?
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 19 October 2020 14: 52 New
        11
        Quote: TuM0305
        So why are we all sitting on the couch and not going to rallies, if they have already lost everyone shame?

        in Russia, the power at rallies does not change request Think back to the history of the country
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 19 October 2020 15: 30 New
          +6
          Quote: Silvestr
          in Russia, power at rallies does not change request Remember the history of the country

          All the same, everything starts with rallies, the main thing is whose slogans are heard at rallies.
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 19 October 2020 18: 36 New
            +6
            At the expense of slogans, that's right .. Whose will be ..
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 19 October 2020 18: 46 New
              0
              Quote: parusnik
              At the expense of slogans, that's right .. Whose will be ..

              Many active young people go to the bulk, the Left is working much worse so far, and the reason is the same, the lack of funds. There is no local funding.
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 19 October 2020 20: 42 New
                +2
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                The left is working much worse so far, but the reason is the same, the lack of funds

                Shake Zyuganov! There is something to profit from, but he does not need it
      2. Terrible GMO
        Terrible GMO 19 October 2020 21: 39 New
        0
        Quote: TuM0305
        So why are we all sitting on the couch and not going to rallies, if they have already lost everyone shame?

        You are wrong. This is not the law. First, you need to collect, organize, and confirm official papers. Not allowed? To court. Will the court send? Well, that's the law.

        It seems that they say so in the topics about Belarus, right?

        Sarcasm.
      3. at84432384
        at84432384 19 October 2020 21: 46 New
        +5
        Lenin gave an answer to this question, which, by the way, was tested in practice. The lower classes no longer want, the upper circles can absolutely nothing, but a party has not yet emerged that can rally the energy of the masses. Otherwise, it will be like in 91, when the discontent of the masses was used in its own interests by the liberal party, which matured in the depths of the top of the CPSU. And social networks are now just an analogue of a rally. A person expresses his thoughts, recognizes strangers and thinks. No more mistakes.
    10. Civil
      Civil 19 October 2020 18: 49 New
      11
      There will be answers now.
      1. What do you want like in Ukraine?
      2. All those who are dissatisfied with Manturov and other holy people are pans with their heads in bulk.
      3. But no debt!
      4. In 20 years, but it will be th.
      5. Look how many businesses have opened!
      1. Alf
        Alf 19 October 2020 22: 43 New
        +6
        Quote: Civil
        There will be answers now.
        1. What do you want like in Ukraine?
        2. All those who are dissatisfied with Manturov and other holy people are pans with their heads in bulk.
        3. But no debt!
        4. In 20 years, but it will be th.
        5. Look how many businesses have opened!

        6. All yards are packed with cars.
        7. Everyone has a pair of iPhones.
  2. bairat
    bairat 19 October 2020 12: 08 New
    +5
    With such a voice, or rather wheezing, like Manturov's, it's generally difficult to radiate optimism.
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    1. kepmor
      kepmor 19 October 2020 13: 15 New
      +4
      the fact that they are "fabulous" no doubt ... only you and I continue to believe all these storytellers ...
      the notorious 76% and the general approval of the entry "to the throne" is the clearest confirmation of this ...
      that's where all our problems are ...
      1. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 19 October 2020 13: 22 New
        +4
        You believe? Me not.
  4. apro
    apro 19 October 2020 12: 12 New
    14
    So, we quote from Manturov: the weakening of the ruble is beneficial to Russian exporters - fertilizer producers, gold mining and metallurgical companies. And there is even a clarification: “their pre-tax profit will grow by 10-20 percent

    Speaking in Russian ... we will rob culturally ... pay less salary ... sell goods at a higher price ...
  5. zontov79
    zontov79 19 October 2020 12: 13 New
    +7
    Well, of course, when the dollar was 30 times more expensive than the ruble, this was not enough for a jerk, now it is 80 times cheaper, well, we'll jump)) get ready for a jerk!))
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 19 October 2020 13: 16 New
      10
      Quote: zontov79
      get ready for a dash!))

      jerked ... for "heat" 3600 flew in, although still October ... 300 more expensive for the last ... tie the laces on the ankle boots?
      1. zontov79
        zontov79 21 October 2020 06: 03 New
        0
        Oh, and we'll live soon!
  6. Serpet
    Serpet 19 October 2020 12: 13 New
    31
    The companies operating for export are satisfied with the devaluation of the ruble. And this, in the overwhelming majority, is the sale of natural resources. And it is the representatives of the management of these companies (the lobby) who will stand with both hands for the depreciation of the Russian currency. Accordingly, all their efforts and actions will be directed towards this.
    1. DrEng527
      DrEng527 19 October 2020 12: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Serpet
      And this, in the overwhelming majority, is the sale of natural resources. AND

      even Rosatom?
    2. Airdefense
      Airdefense 19 October 2020 13: 05 New
      +1
      And this, in the overwhelming majority, is the sale of natural resources.

      Yes, not necessarily, a lot of them are aviation, weapons, nuclear power, mechanical engineering, separately the IT sector, the nomenclature is generally wide, for example, if you look at the patriotic site:
      https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/?id=74
      but another question is that an even wider range of products is being imported, and as a result, it turns out that there are not only fewer people who benefit from the cheap ruble and exports, and with each fall of the ruble their number decreases even more relative to those whose living standards are falling.
    3. Grandfather
      Grandfather 19 October 2020 13: 19 New
      +7
      Quote: Serpet
      The companies operating for export are satisfied with the devaluation of the ruble. And this, in the overwhelming majority, is the sale of natural resources.

      in short: government policy.
  7. paul3390
    paul3390 19 October 2020 12: 16 New
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    Duc - it is clear that the weak ruble is beneficial exclusively to commodity hucksters. It could be profitable for its producers of consumer goods, but alas - for 30 years of capitalism, the bourgeoisie have not learned to independently produce national goods. Everything is either imported or with an imported kit. And consequently - such a policy is nothing more than compensation at the expense of the already poor people for the lost income of alligators. Everything else is just verbal husk. And in another way - under capitalism it will not be, because fairy tales about the type of national-patriotic capital are just fierce delirium. In principle, this does not exist. And the capitalist only benefits from selling the remnants of the Soviet past, no one is going to produce anything here. It is in the interests of this bunch of rich men that our dear president and no less dear government act. The situation can be changed only by changing the tuning. And nothing else.
    1. Daniil Konovalenko
      Daniil Konovalenko 19 October 2020 12: 36 New
      +5
      And the capitalist only benefits from selling the remnants of the Soviet past, no one is going to produce anything here.
      .... The Soviet past is "galoshes", blacks walk on the sand in Africa. smile Yeah ... they made a lot of "galoshes" in Soviet times ... they can't sell them anyway ..
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 19 October 2020 13: 25 New
        +5
        Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
        And the capitalist only benefits from selling the remnants of the Soviet past, no one is going to produce anything here.
        .... The Soviet past is "galoshes", blacks walk on the sand in Africa. smile Yeah ... they made a lot of "galoshes" in Soviet times ... they can't sell them anyway ..

        no, not galoshes, but what you are using at this time, all this "floated away" from the USSR. just ask. and "plasma", and "mobile phones" and "Internet", and much more. our country, stupidly robbed and betrayed.
        1. Daniil Konovalenko
          Daniil Konovalenko 19 October 2020 13: 51 New
          +6
          Galoshes are in quotation marks ... And the smiley is sarcasm denoting. My comment is actually about what you wrote .. hi
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather 19 October 2020 13: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: paul3390
      And nothing else.

      a plus.
  8. Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 19 October 2020 12: 21 New
    +1
    Manturov, because a weak currency can only be profitable in the case of an "iron curtain" and completely. self-sufficient economy. In Russia, the economy is dependent, so alas. :(
  9. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 19 October 2020 12: 23 New
    10
    I remember the yen was also lowered in the early 70s and Japan filled up with its cheap goods: cars, electronics, etc. the markets of the US and Western Europe, Russia is preparing for a "jump" is ready to fill the world with Renault-Nissan and other goods to fill up the whole world with a low ruble exchange rate, to compete with China? smile
    1. Firelake
      Firelake 19 October 2020 16: 44 New
      +4
      Will not work. There is no full cycle production. And the drop in income is all over the world. Ours are preparing for inflation on the dollar, and you can also get into your pocket. In general, the leaders are rotten. How you can vote for Putin since 2014, I don't understand. No, Crimea is objectively needed. But gentlemen, why did you wait until the cock bites in the ass? Why was it impossible to do this earlier? It would have been a year of transition in peacetime, or they would have put their president there ... Belarus is next in line by the way. I've poured my grandmother into the gold, and I don't regret it. Shit was on paper and no matter what color it is.
  10. Just a Traveler
    Just a Traveler 19 October 2020 12: 27 New
    10
    Thimblers in power are a terrible thing ((((
  11. denis obuckov
    denis obuckov 19 October 2020 12: 31 New
    +4
    I propose to publish an open letter to the government in response, explaining what advantage for the Russian Federation will have the execution of all civil servants involved in corruption schemes
    1. Koval Sergey
      Koval Sergey 19 October 2020 12: 34 New
      22
      Quote: denis obuckov
      an advantage for the Russian Federation will be the execution of all civil servants involved in corruption schemes

      Unfortunately, not realizable. These "employees" will have to shoot themselves in the head.
    2. prior
      prior 19 October 2020 12: 46 New
      0
      The implementation of your proposal will deprive Russia of all power, you will have to shoot all the deputies, officials and leaders, judges, tax officers, ... ... up to the foremen in production and ordinary traffic police and police officers.
      And the country will also be left without medicine and teachers, housing and communal services and trade workers.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 19 October 2020 12: 59 New
        +8
        Quote: prior
        will deprive Russia of all power, will have to shoot all the deputies, officials and leaders, judges, tax officials, ... ... up to the foremen in production and ordinary traffic police and police officers.

        it would be nice. well though - lustration.
        Quote: prior
        And the country will also be left without medicine and teachers, housing and communal services and trade workers.

        how is the connection between the first group and the second?
        Life has shown that the representatives of the second group simply have nowhere to run.
        1. prior
          prior 19 October 2020 13: 02 New
          +2
          The corruption component in the second group, although forced, is very high.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 19 October 2020 13: 17 New
            +7
            Quote: prior
            The corruption component in the second group, although forced, is very high.

            it was about ...
            Quote: prior
            shoot

            What do you think, if a professor-surgeon from the oncology center on Kashirka receives about 30 thousand rubles from the statement, is that a lot? In the Filatovsky hospital in Moscow, doctors receive 35-40 thousand - is that a lot? Pay normally and there will be no corruption among doctors. Everyone wants to be treated by the best doctor, but he is not enough for everyone. Hence the money. And the marauders must be shot, I agree
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 19 October 2020 14: 20 New
              +6
              Quote: Silvestr

              what do you think, if the professor-surgeon from the oncology center on Kashirka receives about 30 thousand on the statement, that's a lot

              Sobyanin said that if it were not for the optimization, the doctor in Moscow would receive 70 tons .. and now, thanks to the fact that everything has been optimized for 140 tons .. the doctor in Moscow gets .. Are you lying?
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 19 October 2020 14: 48 New
                +8
                Quote: Svarog
                Lying?

                lying. 3-4 hospitals in Moscow with a reasonable salary, most of the remaining ones are at the level of 35-40 thousand.Daughter was invited to work with Roshal - 40 thousand were put up
      2. Vikxnumx
        Vikxnumx 19 October 2020 15: 22 New
        +1
        The implementation of your proposal will deprive Russia of all power,

        Let's look for less thieves!
        Or we'll shoot more often.
    3. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 19 October 2020 13: 34 New
      +5
      Quote: denis obuckov
      I propose to publish an open letter to the government in response, explaining what advantage for the Russian Federation will have the execution of all civil servants involved in corruption schemes

      Do you want to propose to the government to commit suicide, to shoot themselves?
    4. Vikxnumx
      Vikxnumx 19 October 2020 15: 26 New
      +8
      execution of all civil servants implicated in corruption schemes

      - Do you steal from the budget?
      - Yes, why?
      - And if they find out?
      - So you found out. So what?
    5. parusnik
      parusnik 19 October 2020 18: 41 New
      +7
      I propose an answer to publish an open letter to the government
      laughing Not only to publish, but to write, print, and with icons under state flags, go to the Kremlin en masse to present this, personally to the president. He will read it, cry ... laughing
      1. Alf
        Alf 19 October 2020 22: 44 New
        +5
        Quote: parusnik
        I propose an answer to publish an open letter to the government
        laughing Not only to publish, but to write, print, and with icons under state flags, go to the Kremlin en masse to present this, personally to the president. He will read it, cry ... laughing

        And he will give the order to the goldsmith.
  12. Doccor18
    Doccor18 19 October 2020 12: 36 New
    12
    Bloomberg was one of the first media outlets to come out with positive forecasts for the ruble.

    If they praise, then everything is very bad, or it will soon become even worse ...
  13. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 19 October 2020 12: 48 New
    11
    What can you expect from a sociologist ?! When will they finish the appointment of ministers, people from other specialties ?!
    1. Alf
      Alf 19 October 2020 22: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      What can you expect from a sociologist ?! When will they finish the appointment of ministers, people from other specialties ?!

      And where else to get there? There, only the faithful remained, the clever ones fled.
  14. New Year day
    New Year day 19 October 2020 12: 59 New
    +9
    In a simple way, we robbed, we rob and we will rob!
    1. Daniil Konovalenko
      Daniil Konovalenko 19 October 2020 13: 12 New
      11
      In a simple way, we robbed, we rob and we will rob!
      That's the whole political program with the Constitution .. smile
      1. Old Bolshevik
        Old Bolshevik 21 October 2020 10: 13 New
        -3
        The power of the Russian Federation over the past 30 years, from the very top to the very bottom, is the power of thieves and crooks, hucksters and speculators.
    2. veritas
      veritas 19 October 2020 21: 10 New
      +5
      Quote: Silvestr
      In a simple way, we robbed, we rob and we will rob!

      As long as we allow, they will rob.
  15. faiver
    faiver 19 October 2020 13: 00 New
    +2
    I would say what is the name of all sorts of manturovs-silanovs and others, I would say where to go, and on what the whole population of our country turned them around ..., but damn it here request
  16. Alien From
    Alien From 19 October 2020 13: 02 New
    +1
    How tired of this verbiage of bureaucrats !!!
  17. Asad
    Asad 19 October 2020 13: 19 New
    0
    Once the Kazakhs came to me to buy a car, naturally a Toyota Camry
  18. Desperado
    Desperado 19 October 2020 13: 37 New
    +2
    Quote: Alien From
    How tired of this verbiage of bureaucrats !!!


    Why verbiage? He described the current state of affairs quite clearly, the government and commodity corporations are satisfied with the weakening of the ruble. That weakening implies a reduction in the purchasing power of the bulk of the electorate does not seem to bother anyone. Manturov approaches his work purely from economic issues ...
  19. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 19 October 2020 13: 42 New
    -4
    Ehhh ... with what nostalgia I remember about:

    It is not easy to say how many of them are in Russia today, but clearly not as many as Mr. Manturov would probably like. And clearly less than it was during the first global devaluation of the ruble after the default in 1998.

    Our company then kept the price tag in dollars (then it was still allowed), the dollar went up 4 times, a quarter of clients - also firms - really went bankrupt, but !!! laughing I then for the first time in my life allowed myself to ride a six-hundredth Mercedes as a taxi bully the prices remained practically the same, and the income at our company increased roughly three times wassat
  20. rudolff
    rudolff 19 October 2020 14: 26 New
    11
    A stable or growing ruble is beneficial for an ordinary citizen. And all these tales about the benefits of devaluation for the economy speak only of who the current government is working for. Not people.
  21. Mihail55
    Mihail55 19 October 2020 14: 35 New
    +3
    How many words have the capitalist ministers uttered lately !!! Previously, we mere mortals only knew the names of ministers by industry (chiefs of central administrations) ... and their opinion ??? They were only determined by CASES.
    Naturally, there was also nepotism and nepotism, but too much responsibility lay with the authorities. Looks like, except for chatter, the current backsliders have nothing to do? The formula "The market will put everything in its place!" turned out to be tragic for our country, unfortunately ...
  22. Konnick
    Konnick 19 October 2020 14: 48 New
    +1
    "Do you want me to make a flick, said the clumsy blacksmith ..." from a parable.
  23. Polente the Wanderer
    Polente the Wanderer 19 October 2020 18: 49 New
    +1
    Which companies bring income to the budget and, accordingly, to the government and other managers (image of the CEO, positions, ..), help to fill the state budget? Gazprom, Rosneft, Transneft, Rosatom-controlling stake of the state. dollars, and then some are converted into rubles and this is also used in social policy (pensions, etc.). And it seems like a pension (...) is growing, but you can buy less. And who controls whom (the government or state companies) the question interesting. Who turns the drawbar?
  24. veritas
    veritas 19 October 2020 21: 07 New
    +4
    There is one more important subtlety, which is not always paid attention to when speaking for a weak ruble. It only seems

    Nothing seems to be for a long time. It has been obvious to everyone for a long time that people get poorer every year, when the Manurovs and others like them get richer. And there is no one to ask from them. Well, there is no one yet.
  25. Linxs
    Linxs 20 October 2020 08: 49 New
    0
    while abroad, the Russian currency was and is called almost the most promising.


    Yea Yea..
  26. Old Bolshevik
    Old Bolshevik 21 October 2020 10: 12 New
    -1
    A financial and raw material colony of the West, such as the Russian Federation, does not need a national currency at all. Glass beads or just green cut paper are enough. There are enough candy wrappers to sell oil, gas, timber and metals to the West for next to nothing. At the head of the Russian Federation is non-Russian power, and nothing belongs to the Russians in the Russian Federation. The aluminum industry of the Russian Federation, PJSC Sberbank of the Russian Federation - in the hands of the United States and England, for example. The entire financial block and the Central Bank of the Russian Federation are also controlled by the USA and the IMF. Only fools cannot understand in any way that the Russian Federation is not a sovereign state like China, but simply a colony headed by a Gauleiter subordinate in all the interests of the West.
  27. Alexander Yaroshenko
    Alexander Yaroshenko 26 October 2020 02: 50 New
    -1
    It is profitable for the resource oligarchs, it is cheaper to exploit us ...