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In Greece: Turkey tested S-400 in the Black Sea and showed activity in Karabakh, and the Russian Aerospace Forces responded with a blow to militants in Idlib

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The Greek press writes that by Saturday, October 17, Turkey is completing the main phase of testing the S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile system. The publication Ekathimerini (Greece) writes that the air defense system, acquired by the Turks from Russia, was tested for the possibility of detecting aircraft and other air targets for four days.


A few days ago, Voennoe Obozreniye reported that the Turkish armed forces transferred the S-400 air defense system to the Black Sea coast to conduct exercises in the Sinop region. Then in Greece they expressed fears that with such a deployment, Turkey could try to carry out exercises to detect Greek Air Force planes in the air (over the Mediterranean). However, the distance from the exercise area to Greek airspace is over 900 km. Theoretically, such a distance for detecting air targets for the S-400 air defense systems is unattainable.

At the same time, the Greek media noted that the exercises could also be conducted to monitor the air situation over the Black Sea, including over the airspace in the Crimea region. The following nuance is added: as soon as Turkey began its exercises with the S-400 in the north of the country and as soon as it showed significant activity in relation to the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, the Russian Aerospace Forces launched a series of strikes against militants in Syrian Idlib, destroying several fortified areas and infrastructure facilities of gangs , actually controlled by the Turkish special services.

It is assumed that this was an asymmetric response from Moscow, which demonstrated that there are "red lines" for which Erdogan should not step up.

Publication of a video with the passage of S-400 air defense systems through the Turkish settlement on October 7:

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  1. hrych
    hrych 16 October 2020 10: 00
    -2
    The Russian Federation also gave guarantees to the CSTO of Armenia. Those. stopped the threat of Turkey, hinting, they say, let's fight with Azerbaijan. Why didn't they hit Baku and the dam of the Apocalypse of Shirvan and Absheron with ballistic missiles, why didn't they wipe Ganja off the face of the earth, why didn't they attack the oil refinery, why the Baku-Ceyhan oil pipeline has not been blown up yet. Did Kocharyan doubt, but this slimy Pashinyan used his main weapon - telephone hooliganism.
    1. dorz
      dorz 16 October 2020 10: 07
      +6
      The sale of the S-400 Triumph to the Turks was a mistake, there is a high probability that the characteristics will be transferred to NATO countries.
      1. hrych
        hrych 16 October 2020 10: 13
        +9
        This is an export version with underestimated characteristics, etc. Before going for export, an expert commission meets and weighs all the pros and cons, and most importantly, they look at the presence of damage to the defense. These complexes drive a wedge, creating a critical dependence of the air defense of the TR on us, Israel is very upset, and the leverage of the West has also decreased.
        1. venik
          venik 16 October 2020 11: 29
          0
          Quote: hrych
          These complexes drive a wedge, creating a critical dependence of the air defense of the TR on us, Israel is very upset, and the leverage of the West has also decreased.

          =========
          Greetings, Hrych! hi
          ALL Right !!! good I will add one more thing: For some reason, those who criticize the sale of the S-400 to Turkey forget how the states were hysterical about the sale of the S-400 to the Turks and obsessively tried to "suck" the newest version of the Patriot PAC-3 to them! And they were not afraid! But relations between the United States and Turkey have "cooled down" a lot lately! Although Turkey is a member of NATO, but ...... Even their base, Injerlik, is slowly being phased out. And in these conditions, to offer the Turks the latest air defense systems?
          By the way! You might think we would much safer, if the Turks had bought the Patriots after all? It wouldn't be! "Patriot" PAC-3 is very close in performance characteristics to the S-400, but HOW to deal with it we do not know very well.
          And it’s hard to believe that stupid people will allow them to dig into the S-400! By the way, the Turks did not mind the purchase of the Patriots (in addition to the S-400)! Like "Patriots" are against us, and the S-400 is against the States (if anything!). drinks
          1. hrych
            hrych 16 October 2020 11: 42
            +2
            Quote: venik
            Greetings, Hrych!

            Good health! drinks
            There Incirlik was guarded by the Patriots of the Germans with their own calculations, and here there is an overlap. The keys to the sky are different laughing
            Quote: venik
            S-400 - against the States (if that!).

            Well, that's a reason for Anathema. As such, themselves ... But there is such a small, but sooo harmful Middle Eastern state. Even in vain it is better not to name drinks
            1. venik
              venik 16 October 2020 12: 01
              -1
              Quote: hrych
              But there is such a small, but sooo harmful Middle Eastern state. Even in vain it is better not to name

              ======
              Right! I forgot to mention in vain: "The States and their allies in BV" The flaw came out! request
      2. neri73-r
        neri73-r 16 October 2020 10: 24
        +7
        Quote: dorz
        The sale of the S-400 Triumph to the Turks was a mistake, there is a high probability that the characteristics will be transferred to NATO countries.

        They had a S-300, not an export one, and that, they could not do anything, hardware is hardware, but algorithms, and they are not available.
      3. KKND
        KKND 16 October 2020 10: 46
        0
        Quote: dorz
        there is a high probability of transferring characteristics to NATO countries.

        The Americans, having learned the mass and dimensions of the missiles, their type (single-stage solid-propellant with AGSN / PAGSN) and the approximate radiation power and frequency of the radar (detected by RTR aircraft) and just by watching the video with the appearance of the complex already know a lot to combat it. So a more detailed acquaintance will not give them as much as they usually think.
        All these "flirtations" with Turkey are not very clear is another matter. What what and the Turks have always been able to "be friends" so that they are not taken to the EU, and the Americans are "freaking out". In my opinion, they can "make friends" whoever you want. It is unlikely that we should "get involved".
      4. MTN
        MTN 16 October 2020 10: 52
        0
        Quote: dorz
        Selling the S-400 Triumph to the Turks was a mistake

        Quote: dorz
        there is a high probability of transferring characteristics

        Do you think Putin is a fool comrade?) Do you think they do not know who and what they are selling?
      5. Paul Siebert
        Paul Siebert 16 October 2020 17: 58
        +2
        Quote: dorz
        The sale of the S-400 Triumph to the Turks was a mistake, there is a high probability that the characteristics will be transferred to NATO countries.

        Dmitry, this is not even a mistake.
        Betrayal.
        In the country of the victorious oligarchy, the priorities have shifted towards the dough ...
        Now any scumbag is a partner for our leadership.
        If only he paid money. And if he doesn't have enough of them, we'll borrow it ourselves.
        Under the tomato guarantees.
        And the fact that our ambassadors are killed and pilots executed - we close our eyes ... angry
    2. Old Kaa
      Old Kaa 16 October 2020 10: 23
      +4
      The time for a total war of mutual destruction, I think, has not yet come. ... But it will come if Azerbaijanis do not calm down
      1. MTN
        MTN 16 October 2020 10: 54
        -3
        Quote: Old Kaa
        But it will come if Azerbaijanis do not calm down

        Please, there is no need to threaten Azerbaijan. Now on the side of Azerbaijan de facto and Russia, Turkey and Iran. So far, the weak link is Armenia.
        And the authorities of Azerbaijan should not be considered as go-o-comrade.
    3. MTN
      MTN 16 October 2020 10: 50
      -4
      Quote: hrych
      Why didn't they hit Baku and the dam

      If this happens, Armenia will cease to exist.
      Quote: hrych
      why did they not attack the refinery, why the Baku-Ceyhan oil pipeline has not yet been blown up.

      It's a pity. They did not attack. I would like to see how BP from Armenia will make the Igilov country later. The Armenians also know about it.
      1. hrych
        hrych 16 October 2020 11: 31
        +1
        Quote: MTN
        If this happens, Armenia will cease to exist.

        Here is Azerbaijan for sure.
        Quote: MTN
        BP from Armenia

        BP will just force Aliyev to peace.
        1. MTN
          MTN 16 October 2020 11: 34
          -2
          Quote: hrych
          Here is Azerbaijan for sure.

          if the platinum is covered, then of course the floor of Azerbaijan will be washed away. Will Armenians be able to answer for this?
          1. hrych
            hrych 16 October 2020 11: 47
            -1
            And they will say that she broke through
            1. MTN
              MTN 16 October 2020 11: 51
              -3
              Quote: hrych
              And they will say that she broke through

              I am sure that you are right)))))))))) Will they only believe them?
              1. hrych
                hrych 16 October 2020 12: 05
                -1
                Quote: MTN
                just believe them?

                Them? They will believe. wassat
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 16 October 2020 10: 07
    +1
    In Greece: Turkey tested S-400 in the Black Sea and showed activity in Karabakh, and the Russian Aerospace Forces responded with a blow to militants in Idlib

    Things are going on, the "office" writes.
    It is assumed that this was an asymmetric response from Moscow, which demonstrated that there are "red lines" for which Erdogan should not step up.

    This can also be written, but how is it REALLY ??? we can only guess.
  3. Vadim_888
    Vadim_888 16 October 2020 10: 10
    -2
    Tests in the Sinop area with a radius of airspace overlap to Crimea ...
    A probable corridor for the transfer of "humanitarian" aid for Armenia from Western countries ....
    1. hrych
      hrych 16 October 2020 10: 20
      0
      Quote: Vadim_888
      Tests in the Sinop area with a radius of airspace overlap to Crimea ...

      This is conditional. The curvature of the earth does not allow you to see beyond several tens of kilometers. Of course, if the plane near the Crimea does not fly at high altitude. But there is an opportunity to shoot down BR OTK and even SD. Also bring down AWACS aircraft, electronic warfare, etc.
      1. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 16 October 2020 10: 45
        +1
        ... The curvature of the earth does not allow you to see beyond several tens of kilometers.
        it also depends on the wavelength
        1. hrych
          hrych 16 October 2020 11: 46
          0
          ZGRLS is a separate topic. Turkey does not have such.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 October 2020 10: 10
    +2
    The Greeks were so worried that they did not even forget to mention the strike of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Idlib as a response to Erdogan. Buy an S-400 from Russia and also a monitor to spite the Turks since NATO cannot put them in their place.
    1. MTN
      MTN 16 October 2020 10: 55
      -3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Buy an S-400 from Russia and also a monitor to spite the Turks since NATO cannot put them in their place.

      Do you think NATO will trample against Turkey for the sake of Greece?)
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 16 October 2020 11: 07
        +2
        Do you think NATO will trample against Turkey for the sake of Greece?
        Stupid question. Who says that NATO will "trample" on Turkey? Each military, and even more so in the military-political bloc, has its own strict rules and norms of behavior in relation to the members of the bloc and the likely enemy. Therefore, the leadership of NATO (read the United States) has leverage over any member of the bloc. I hope I made it clear?
        1. MTN
          MTN 16 October 2020 11: 08
          0
          Quote: rotmistr60
          Therefore, the leadership of NATO (read the United States) has leverage over any member of the bloc.

          I agree. But Turkey does not understand the language of threats. Do you agree?
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 October 2020 10: 12
    +8
    What Putin said to Erdogan - we will not soon find out ... but after all, something "wavered" in the behavior of the Turks. Videoconferencing hit Idlib. Strong. Well, where is the indignation of the Turks? They patrol from our roads, no one rushes on patrols. The Idlib terrorists from Azerbaijan will be quietly taken out, and maybe disposed of on the spot (they know too much) ... This is my IMHO. When Aliyev publicly declared about their absence in the Azerbaijani troops, I will not give a penny for their lives ... wassat
    1. MTN
      MTN 16 October 2020 10: 57
      -5
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Idlib terrorists will be quietly withdrawn from Azerbaijan

      the idle talk began again.


      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      When Aliyev publicly declared about their absence in the Azerbaijani troops, I will not give a penny for their lives

      what are you talking about. and when did you give lives for us? It was ours in the 41st who gave life for you, not you for us. We paid for the safety of your lives and not you ours.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 16 October 2020 11: 03
        +1
        Quote: MTN
        what are you talking about. and when did you give lives for us? It was ours in the 41st who gave life for you, not you for us. We paid for the safety of your lives, not you ours

        Is your Russian not native? What kind of lives did who give for whom? I wrote about pennies ... And if anything, I'm in Russia good
        1. MTN
          MTN 16 October 2020 11: 07
          -2
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          What kind of lives did who give for whom?

          My paternal grandfather and 3 of my grandmother's brothers were killed during the battles with the Germans. Only one of the brothers reached almost Europe and was killed there. And you speak your Russian is not native. Our schools are Russian, Baku is a secular city. Everyone speaks Russian. The Russian village of Ivanovka, I often buy dairy products home from there. Quality. Show me something like that in Armenia. You can't tell friends from enemies.
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 16 October 2020 11: 33
            0
            You don't tell friends from enemies
            .
            Exactly. We do not distinguish.
            How to distinguish friend from enemy if both say the same thing - Give?
            1. MTN
              MTN 16 October 2020 11: 37
              0
              Quote: Pereira
              How to distinguish friend from enemy if both say the same thing - Give?

              Dear Misha, there is international law for this! That's all. This is the same as that Efremov kills a person in an accident and it is not me who speaks, but the victim's side, he says. What is the prosecutor's office doing? Looking for the truth. So here it is necessary to find the DOCUMENTAL TRUTH. And not based on the fact that he is with me in the same block of the CSTO.
      2. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 16 October 2020 12: 38
        -1
        Quote: MTN
        what are you talking about. and when did you give lives for us?

        You have misunderstood (unless you belong to IS) the meaning of the comment. hi According to our (Russian) SVR, from the Azerbaijani side, IS fighters brought to the region by the Turks from Syria take part in the database. Aliyev publicly disowned them. those. we can assume that they were not and are not. And considering what kind of people they are, with a high degree of probability, we can assume that when everything is over, no one will be lucky home for them (those who survive). There will be no locomotive of victory, no flowers, no tears of farewell. Azerbaijan hardly needs such characters among its citizens. The delivery of militants to hot spots is recycling. There is no other way to get rid of them. Here Erdogan wrote them a one-way ticket. This, in fact, is what he says
        Mountain shooter (Eugene)
  6. comradChe
    comradChe 16 October 2020 10: 18
    -1
    It seems to me that the most interesting question is, did the Israeli colleagues participate in the testing? It was Israel who agreed to help the SGA pull up their pants with missile defense systems.
  7. yehat2
    yehat2 16 October 2020 10: 26
    +5
    Azerbaijan began shelling already the territory of Armenia, protected by the CSTO treaty
    Both sides began unashamedly to strike at the peaceful people.
    The atrocities of Azerbaijanis with prisoners and even those killed are already massively appearing on video.
    Actually, they hardly take prisoners, and those that are taken are usually killed.
    Armenians kill Azerbaijanis no less passionately when they can. Snipers and other infantry specialists are beginning to show themselves more actively. The work of snipers is characteristic - after a shot they do not disguise themselves for their own safety, but continue to fire as much as possible, mowing down the enemy with squads. In such a situation, it is unrealistic to separate both sides - they have become brutal and will not stop until they are completely exhausted. The Armenians crave revenge, they no longer agree to a truce, despite the fact that their army is weaker.
    1. Victorio
      Victorio 16 October 2020 10: 47
      0
      Quote: yehat2
      Azerbaijan began shelling already the territory of Armenia, protected by the CSTO treaty
      Both sides began unashamedly to strike at the peaceful people.
      The atrocities of Azerbaijanis with prisoners and even those killed are already massively appearing on video.
      Actually, they hardly take prisoners, and those that are taken are usually killed.
      Armenians kill Azerbaijanis no less passionately when they can. Snipers and other infantry specialists are beginning to show themselves more actively. The work of snipers is characteristic - after a shot they do not disguise themselves for their own safety, but continue to fire as much as possible, mowing down the enemy with squads. In such a situation, it is unrealistic to separate both sides - they have become brutal and will not stop until they are completely exhausted. The Armenians crave revenge, they no longer agree to a truce, despite the fact that their army is weaker.

      ===
      yes, you have to make compromises. for both parties have well-founded rights and claims
      1. MTN
        MTN 16 October 2020 11: 02
        -3
        Quote: Victorio
        yes, you have to make compromises. for both parties have well-founded rights and claims

        Dear Victor. I ask you to describe in detail what JUSTIFIED RIGHTS do Armenians have in Karabakh?
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 16 October 2020 11: 08
          0
          Quote: MTN
          Quote: Victorio
          yes, you have to make compromises. for both parties have well-founded rights and claims

          Dear Victor. I ask you to describe in detail what JUSTIFIED RIGHTS do Armenians have in Karabakh?

          ===
          ) dear ..., for this you need to turn to the Armenians, so that through meetings, discussions, exchange of materials, compromises, to come to a mutual agreement and peaceful, joint residence in Karabakh, or in at least peaceful 2 Karabakhs of Azerbaijani and Armenian.
          1. MTN
            MTN 16 October 2020 11: 13
            -1
            Quote: Victorio
            you need to appeal to the Armenians so that through meetings, discussions, exchange of materials

            Victor, for 30 years they talk with the Armenians, they sign documents, but in reality they do something else. For example, the last meeting of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, where they sign that no more Karabakh will be discussed. The next day, they shout to the world, recognize the rights of the people of Karabakh. What are the people of Karabakh? There is no such people. There are the Armenians of Karabakh. As Aliyev said, he does not trust them. Their words, signatures are not worth a dime.
            For 30 YEARS the Turks have been asking to open the archives and if historians (international commission) recognize the genocide, Turkey will also recognize it. Opening archives? No. Why? What are they hiding?

            Now please tell me how to conduct a dialogue with them? And how much more to conduct a dialogue when they do not respect international law.
            1. Victorio
              Victorio 16 October 2020 11: 17
              +1
              Quote: MTN
              Now please tell me how to conduct a dialogue with them? And how much more to conduct a dialogue when they do not respect international law.

              ===
              then divide the Karabakh, since it is impossible to agree.
              1. MTN
                MTN 16 October 2020 11: 25
                -1
                Quote: Victorio
                then divide the Karabakh, since it is impossible to agree.

                Victor, homeland is like a mother, how can you share a mother?
                1. Victorio
                  Victorio 16 October 2020 11: 38
                  -1
                  Quote: MTN
                  Quote: Victorio
                  then divide the Karabakh, since it is impossible to agree.

                  Victor, homeland is like a mother, how can you share a mother?

                  ===
                  don't overdo it. it is homeland for Armenians as well. your position is clear, you do not intend to concede. I hope that such a minority.
                  1. MTN
                    MTN 16 October 2020 11: 40
                    0
                    Quote: Victorio
                    your position is clear, you do not intend to concede. I hope that such a minority.

                    Victor, they lived in Karabakh when Karabakh was part of Azerbaijan. Did you live badly? You see, they want freedom. Would you give freedom to Chechnya in Russia? Tatarstan?
    2. MTN
      MTN 16 October 2020 11: 01
      -6
      Quote: yehat2
      Azerbaijan has already started shelling the territory of Armenia

      And they did it right! What's next?
      So from the Armenian side you can shoot in the direction of Azerbaijan, but not in response to Azerbaijan?
      Do you think that Azerbaijani diplomacy just brought all ambassadors and military attachés to Ganja?)))))))
      Quote: yehat2
      protected by the CSTO treaty

      Yes, Azerbaijan wanted to spit on this CSTO. Who from the CSTO except Russia will fight for the Armenians? Dad chtoli? Do you think he forgot how you smothered them with money? Then Azerbaijan helped them. Maybe Kazakhstan will trample? If you are not aware in Kazakhstan, everyone is rooting for Azerbaijan. But Russia may be, then Turkey will intervene. What's next?
      Azerbaijan and Azerbaijanis have a rzhach from the same name of this CSTO. Aliyev is clever, diplomacy has disarmed 90% of the CSTO, only Russia remains ... Does Russia need a hostile Azerbaijan?
      1. yehat2
        yehat2 16 October 2020 11: 04
        +3
        can you clarify for what purpose Azerbaijan is attacking the territory not of NK, but of Armenia?
        After all, Aliyev said that Azerbaijan is only interested in the return of territories.
        But in fact, the aggression is already moving on.
        1. MTN
          MTN 16 October 2020 11: 31
          -3
          Quote: yehat2
          can you clarify for what purpose Azerbaijan is attacking the territory not of NK, but of Armenia?

          Dear, only Armenia has OTRK Elbrus, they shot at Ganja from Armenia, like at Tovuz. I'm sure you remember the news. What should Azerbaijan do? Just give a response. But so that the Russian bears were fed and the European sheep were safe, Azerbaijan arranged a show of these barbaric antics to all the embassies. And after that, videos appear as Azerbaijan destroys the Elbrus launch system. Therefore, Moscow is silent and others.

          Quote: yehat2
          After all, Aliyev said that Azerbaijan is only interested in the return of territories.

          That's right. And the Armenians are also fighting with us. The Armenians in Karabakh, in Africa and in Armenia are the same, but if you notice, Pashinyan divides everyone. They say there is a new kind of people in the world, the PEOPLE OF KARABAKH.

          Dear now do you understand?
          1. yehat2
            yehat2 16 October 2020 11: 37
            -1
            Quote: MTN
            Dear now do you understand?

            no, I don’t understand.
            What is the difference between the liberation of the territory from Armenians by force of arms from the banal genocide in order to provide space for the nation? If anything, this 100% coincides with the goals voiced by Hitler during the attack on the USSR. What will prevent you tomorrow from liberating part of Kazakhstan in the same way? After all, there are territories over which one can argue.
            1. MTN
              MTN 16 October 2020 11: 42
              0
              Quote: yehat2
              What is the difference between the liberation of the territory from Armenians by force of arms from the banal genocide in order to provide space for the nation?

              and WHY did you not tell the Armenians this when they staged genocide in the 90s in Khojaly, killing civilians? Or are they not human? And now they get what they sow ... and they reap it. We talked for 30 years. Not understood. Now we will speak in the language of kulaks.
      2. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 16 October 2020 13: 31
        0
        Quote: MTN
        Who from the CSTO except Russia will fight for the Armenians?

        I don’t know what information field you are in, but personally I have the impression (I apologize in advance, it’s very cynical) that this whole mess was started because of the change in the direction of the vector of friendship with Pashinyan. Otherwise, they would have intervened long ago. And Erdogan would be very strongly asked to sit at the opera and not interfere. However, apart from appeals for peace and brotherhood of the peoples of Transcaucasia, nothing has yet come from Russia. It means "the client is not yet ripe." With the very serious support of Turkey, Azerbaijan has much more chances of winning the war for NK than Armenia without military support. I do not in the least belittle the heroism, patriotism and faith in the victory of the fighters on both sides, but with a saber on tanks (with a rifleman against UAVs), the occupation is not very promising. As I personally think, here to me personally, events will develop sl. way: Azerbaijan will regain control over the disputed near-Nagorno-Karabakh territories and NK itself. Then it will inevitably reach the border with Armenia and sluggish battles will begin in the border areas with the abandonment of these areas by the local population. The Armenian side will ask the international community and maybe even the United States to intervene in the conflict. But, as always and everything in a similar situation, nothing will wait. But when the situation in Armenia heats up to the required degree and approaches a critical one, the Russian Federation and the rest of the CSTO, as well as all sorts of UNOs, etc., will intervene. , and Armenia will be happy with such an outcome of events (if only it doesn't get worse). A peace treaty will be signed without a handshake. Russia will paint another star on the peacekeeping fuselage. Turkey will draw 2 stars. The extreme will be Pashinyan, who, starting to turn his back to us, and to the West in front, lost the support of Russia and thus brought the situation to war. The Armenian people will carry him out of the political arena feet first (or just feet forward) and to the next. elections will be more choosy in the election of his president. This is my, purely personal opinion. Let's see how it all turns out. hi
        1. bang
          bang 16 October 2020 18: 18
          +1
          The Armenian people will take him out of the political arena
          Alas, the opinion of the Armenian people does not play any role. Pashinyan's arrival is an example of this.
          And Russia will still be made extreme in Armenia, they say the ally did not_ help, betrayed, etc. etc.
          (This is my subjective opinion)
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 16 October 2020 20: 17
            0
            Quote: bang-bong
            And Russia will be made even more extreme in Armenia,

            The extreme will be the one who gets into the conflict ahead of time. Until both sides are at war. Until the moment when both sides will be happy and grateful for an outside force to intervene.
  8. askort154
    askort154 16 October 2020 10: 29
    +2
    At the same time, the Greek media noted that the exercises could also be conducted to monitor the air situation over the Black Sea, including over the airspace in the Crimea region.

    This is what is most real. I was of the same opinion. The Turks checked how the S-400 would behave in monitoring the air zone from the Crimea and the entire eastern part of the Black Sea, within a radius of 400 km. It is this airspace that is now saturated with intensive flights, both by Russian aviation and NATO "scouts", including UAVs.
    1. iouris
      iouris 16 October 2020 10: 40
      -3
      Quote: askort154
      It is this airspace that is now saturated with intensive flights, both by Russian aviation and NATO "scouts", including UAVs.

      Yeah. Most likely, the Turks are preparing to shoot down "NATO" scouts. " We are "partners": we are building a nuclear power plant and a gas pipeline in Turkey at our own expense. They must be protected from Nata.
      Is it funny already?
      1. askort154
        askort154 16 October 2020 10: 47
        +3
        iouris .... Yep. Most likely, the Turks are preparing to shoot down "NATO" intelligence officers. "

        In my post there is no word "knock down", no need for speculation. Their task was to see how the Russian and NATO planes "glow". While our instructors were "training" them, they positioned the S-400 near Ankara. And they made a trip to the coast for independent training and summing up. hi
      2. MTN
        MTN 16 October 2020 11: 04
        -3
        Quote: iouris
        at our own expense we are building a nuclear power plant and a gas pipeline in Turkey

        FREE cheese only happens in a mousetrap.
        1. iouris
          iouris 16 October 2020 11: 36
          -1
          For whom cheese is free, and for whom it is very expensive. Where is the mousetrap?
  9. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 16 October 2020 10: 42
    +1
    This destruction of the camp is not an answer but a trifle, the answer would be constant non-stop bombing of Turkish terrorists and here request
    1. bang
      bang 16 October 2020 18: 20
      0
      Maybe those camps where "volunteers" gathered in Karabakh were destroyed?
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 October 2020 11: 45
    -1
    MTN (KGB school)
    It was ours in the 41st who gave life for you, not you for us. We paid for the safety of your lives and not you ours.
    This is the limit of cynicism and a direct Russophobic message. And "yours" didn't live in the USSR at that time? Yes, after these words, your ancestors turned over in their grave.
    1. MTN
      MTN 16 October 2020 11: 53
      -1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      This is the limit of cynicism and a direct Russophobic message. And "yours" at that time did not live in the USSR

      and now we do not live in the CIS?

      Quote: rotmistr60
      Yes, after these words, your ancestors turned over in their graves.

      my ancestors turned over in their grave long ago from the moment you helped the Armenians with Karabakh, after January 19-20 and after you called my people Azerbots. I can add a lot more.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 16 October 2020 12: 02
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        call my people Azerbots
        Has it ever sounded in my comments? Make your claims to those who really allow themselves, but I have never read this in the comments.
        I can add a lot more.
        I could add a lot too. Today you are sewing your own and the Turkish flag into a single one, you went to war on Karabakh, and tomorrow your appetite will play out and ...
  11. yehat2
    yehat2 16 October 2020 12: 34
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    We talked for 30 years. Not understood. Now we will speak in the language of fists

    do you know why this is all stupid and bad?
    because Pashinyan played too much and your leadership played too.
    If you want to decide with your fist - it could be solved that way. But where did you get the idea that the fist must be a military man? where did you get the idea that you have the right to kill
    You might think that Azerbaijan achieved great success in attacking Armenia.
    But I want to remind you what the state could do for its citizens on a gigantic military budget
  12. yehat2
    yehat2 16 October 2020 12: 43
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    Victor, 30 years old they talk to Armenians, they sign documents but in fact they do something else

    how is it?
    And what can you say to the fact that the head of the republic of Azerbaijan admitted before the collapse of the USSR that for more than 20 years the republic officially pursued a policy of colonization of NK exclusively by Azerbaijanis, but was forced to admit that quiet ethnic cleansing was only 10%.
    And then the Armenians kicked out these very Azerbaijanis in the 90s.
    Is that what you call conversations with Armenians? I mean that we need to communicate honestly, and not cheat, quietly forming for ourselves the rights that were not there.
    The official demands of both Armenia and Azerbaijan have never been adequate at all - both sides demand the impossible. Not only Armenians - you too. Aliyev says that he was ready to recognize NK for the concessions of the occupied territories and received support in the parliament. But there was no official proposal from Armenia. Officially, it was - give everything that we require.
  13. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 16 October 2020 13: 32
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    For me, the US and NATO scouts will be flying over the Black Sea when the Turks S 400 are rolling in, or, well, his fate will be tested once again.