What Russia could have done for peace - Norwegian version

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What Russia could have done for peace - Norwegian version

Relations between Russia and the West deteriorated significantly after Russia started a war with Ukraine and occupied part of its territory. Proposals to restore friendship with Russia on the basis of bilateral relations will not bring security to Norway, so Moscow will have to fulfill some requirements to reduce tensions. Heir Hogen Carlsen, Lieutenant Colonel, Chief Lecturer of Strategic Communications at the Norwegian Armed Forces Academy writes about this in an article for Dagens Næringsliv.

According to the author, since 2014, when Russia invaded Ukraine, it has continued to pursue an anti-Western policy: conducting aggressive military exercises, interfering in elections, jamming GPS signals and committing assassinations using weapons mass destruction.



Proposals to strengthen overall security based on bilateral relations and the restoration of friendship with Russia are not suitable for Norway, since they leave it alone with an aggressive neighbor, the lieutenant colonel writes. In his opinion, it will be much better if Russia fulfills the following requirements "for the sake of peace":

1. Stop the war with Ukraine and withdraw your troops from the occupied territories. 13 thousand dead is enough.

2. Stop killing and assassinating citizens of Western states and Russian oppositionists.

3. Do not use weapons of mass destruction to kill your own oppositionists and Western citizens.

We remember both the radioactive polonium used against Litvinenko in London in 2006, and the Novichok nerve poison, which was poisoned by Skripal in Salisbury in 2018 and Navalny most recently.


4. Do not conduct large-scale military exercises off the coast of Norway, since Russia has "enough of its own sea."

5. Launch missiles on your territory and on your territory

6. Notify and invite observers in advance of the exercise, in accordance with the Vienna Document.

Believe me, when tens of thousands of soldiers or 40-50 warships suddenly rush in our direction, it doesn't really calm us down.


7. Do not practice air attacks on Vardø and other places in Norway.

8. Do not jam GPS signals as it is dangerous to life and health.

9. Comply with the CFE Treaty (Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe), as it enables us to control each other and fosters trust.

10. Do not interfere in Western elections, because the West strongly believes in democracy.

After meeting these requirements, Russia will significantly reduce tensions, and Norway will be able to continue to feel safe.

We, the Norwegian military, have a duty to think about the safety of Norway first and foremost.

- summed up Heir Hogen Carlsen
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    1. +34
      15 October 2020 09: 10
      And the face will not crack at the "teacher?
      1. +36
        15 October 2020 09: 13
        What Russia could have done for peace - Norwegian version

        One Russian piece of advice to Norwegians: when you drink, you need to eat! Yes
        1. +19
          15 October 2020 09: 17
          And preferably not by surprise ... laughing
        2. +4
          15 October 2020 09: 18
          Heir Hogen Carlsen.
        3. +4
          15 October 2020 09: 20
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          One Russian piece of advice to Norwegians: when you drink, you need to eat!

          And they are in Scottish ...
          "Pour! Let's drink, by God, more.
          Betsy, we grog a glass
          The last one on the road.
          A slacker who doesn't drink with us.
          Pour full glasses!
          Who's lying that we, brother, are drunk?
          We are only a little merry.
          Well, who is lying so shamelessly? "
          1. +11
            15 October 2020 12: 14
            Quote: Egoza
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            One Russian piece of advice to Norwegians: when you drink, you need to eat!

            And they are in Scottish ...
            "Pour! Let's drink, by God, more.
            Betsy, we grog a glass
            The last one on the road.
            A slacker who doesn't drink with us.
            Pour full glasses!
            Who's lying that we, brother, are drunk?
            We are only a little merry.
            Well, who is lying so shamelessly? "

            Oh Elena, I beg you winked Beethoven is too difficult for these "top" Norwegian teachers.
            Here is their intellectual level:

            The birch was crying, the gooseberry was laughing.
            Fought over cherries, strawberries and rose hips.
            The poplar was mating, the plum sang songs.
            Here's a thing, diphenhydramine and beer !!!
        4. +5
          15 October 2020 19: 05
          You read this nonsense and it is not clear whether this is some particularly stupid copy of the lieutenant colonel, whether they are all so easily inspired, or just work out their salaries, in the light of the general line of the party and government ...
      2. +9
        15 October 2020 09: 19
        Who should we forgive everyone laughing
        1. +5
          15 October 2020 10: 02
          For many centuries, the desires of the Western "democrats" are practically unchanged ... But somehow they DO NOT come true !!! Yes lol laughing
        2. +3
          15 October 2020 11: 29
          Quote: Evil543
          Who should we forgive everyone laughing

          The only healthy thought in Carlsen's unhealthy head is “The Norwegian military, on duty, must think about the safety of Norway,” and even this thought “plagiarized”, it is at least several thousand years old, if the word Norway is removed. wink
      3. +6
        15 October 2020 09: 26
        Quote: Egoza
        And the face will not crack at the "teacher?

        Unfortunately, it will not crack until it is cracked ... with a heel ... several times, then with a knee in the groin and from the elbow to the nape)))
      4. +10
        15 October 2020 09: 43
        And the face will not crack at the "teacher?

        It won’t crack ... you don’t know the Norwegians yet ... their appetite has grown after Medvedev’s gift ... they have one more piece of paper following these requirements with other requirements of European perverted values ​​... I won’t list ... because except for mate you can’t express yourself here.
        1. +9
          15 October 2020 10: 17
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          after Medvedev's gift, their appetite has grown ... after these demands they have one more piece of paper with other requirements of European perverted values


          Can't you fly to Russia on airplanes?
      5. +9
        15 October 2020 09: 49
        In short
        Heir Hogen Carlsen: We, the Norwegian military, are primarily duty-bound
        stop the globe and get off nafig crying
        1. +3
          15 October 2020 10: 30
          Moscow will have to fulfill some requirements

          Naive NATO balabol.
      6. +5
        15 October 2020 10: 26
        Quote: Egoza
        And the face will not crack at the "teacher?

        =======
        good They took it off the tongue, Elena!

        drinks
      7. 0
        15 October 2020 21: 28
        Quote: Egoza
        And the face will not crack at the "teacher?

        His face has nothing to do with it. The military just decided to hack the cabbage lightly. Looks like he lost at cards or started a mistress. So he squeezed an article "on the topic of the day." The "senior" will pay for any nonsense towards the goal .... laughing
    2. +9
      15 October 2020 09: 11
      Moscow will have to fulfill some requirements to reduce tensions

      And this is what they should and WHY?
      1. 0
        15 October 2020 09: 18
        Quote: rocket757
        And this is what they should and WHY?

        Well, he said so clearly:
        Do not conduct large-scale military exercises off the coast of Norway, since Russia has "enough of its own sea."

        You are very nervous!
        1. +7
          15 October 2020 09: 39
          Quote: Egoza
          Quote: rocket757
          And this is what they should and WHY?

          Well, he said so clearly:
          Do not conduct large-scale military exercises off the coast of Norway, since Russia has "enough of its own sea."

          You are very nervous!

          So how many seas does NATO have?

          And WHERE are they jostling endlessly?

          For every point of the Norwegian, there is an answer: all this is CRASH.

          Norway was freed by Russia from Nazism, she SAMA left from there - this is the greatest proof that Norway is not needed and no one wants to touch it
          1. 0
            15 October 2020 10: 18
            Indeed, Russia did not have much friction with cities, if they did not drill at all.
        2. +1
          15 October 2020 10: 16
          Why should they worry. They have an alliance, they have "reliable" allies! They can sleep well.
        3. 0
          18 October 2020 19: 13
          In local Ashan, diapers immediately become scarce.
      2. +7
        15 October 2020 09: 22
        - Excuse me, did I ruin the chapel too?
        1. +1
          15 October 2020 10: 31
          one more confirmation that Norway is frantically looking for an excuse to host American missile defense systems, then "atacue hackers", then we are trying to bomb Vardø ...
          1. +1
            15 October 2020 22: 23
            They are not in vain worried about Vardo, there in which case the seconds will count. Cut down the radar and live in peace, pick the Barents Sea with spinning rods.
            1. 0
              15 October 2020 23: 35
              No, they are offended for hockey ...
    3. +5
      15 October 2020 09: 13
      Stupidity and arrogance in a neglected form
    4. +6
      15 October 2020 09: 13
      In short, Russia must create greenhouse conditions for the Norwegians, otherwise they are so scared and scared ...
    5. +16
      15 October 2020 09: 15
      Some kind of set of fierce delirium. Two-thirds of the points are generally purely Western fabrications, never proven by anyone. How can we stop what is not? When it comes to drills and drills, isn't NATO and America doing the same thing? This is already impudence - to demand from us to stop what they themselves are doing in relation to us. In general, these claims clearly show the level of Western thinking. In short - all this can be summed up in one word - give up. But shish. In response, we can advise Norway a simple move, leave NATO and declare neutrality. And you immediately become deeply uninteresting to Russia. For we do not need anything from you. It’s you who always climb to us.
      1. +4
        15 October 2020 09: 26
        Quote: paul3390
        Some kind of set of fierce delirium.

        Delirium turns out to be a disease for the Western establishment and a contagious disease, they have no immunity against it and do not want to be treated, because simulation is a deliberate action, and the cure for it is ignorance or kick.
        1. +2
          15 October 2020 09: 45
          Quote: Jura
          Delirium turns out to be a disease for the Western establishment and a contagious disease, they have no immunity against it and do not want to be treated, because simulation is a deliberate action, and the cure for it is ignorance or kick.

          Or maybe they are not sick, but simply pose as sincere believers to their own delirium?
          1. 0
            15 October 2020 13: 35
            Quote: CSKA
            Or maybe they are not sick, but simply pose as sincere believers to their own delirium?

            That's right, this is how you can interpret their actions.
            Quote: Jura
            because simulation is a deliberate action
      2. +5
        15 October 2020 09: 39
        How do you not understand. They also strongly believe in democracy. This is a new religion))). Christ is gradually forgotten.
        Democracies build temples, priests of democracy reveal the degree of democracy of this or that nation and political system and decide whether whole countries live or die.
        As once in the name of Christ people cut each other's throats, so now in the name of democracy.
        A new Middle Ages is coming, but with new gods and digital control.
      3. -1
        15 October 2020 09: 44
        Quote: paul3390
        This is already impudence - to demand from us to stop what they themselves are doing in relation to us. In general, these claims clearly show the level of Western thinking.

        Yes, the fact that he wrote is a set of hackneyed cliches and sheer nonsense, moreover, unsubstantiated.
      4. +10
        15 October 2020 10: 33
        When they insult you, it's “freedom of speech”.
        You try to argue - this is "lack of culture"!
        If they ask questions - this is "free thinking",
        If you're trying to ask them questions, that's "interrogation"!
        They accuse you of something - this is a "search for the truth",
        You are trying to make excuses - it means you are a "liar"!
        They laugh at you - this is "constructive criticism"
        You try to answer - this is "intolerance"!
        They threaten you - that means they "protect themselves"
        When you yourself try to defend your beliefs, you are a "hate and violence instigator"!
        And despite all the tragedy of this situation, I admire those who still oppose the West aspiring to domination.

        Morteza Avini, Iranian filmmaker.
    6. +7
      15 October 2020 09: 15
      He shyly kept silent that it would be better for us to stop capturing the air of this world altogether, and then it will generally be good. Do not wait for the Herods, you will answer us for Spitsbergen.
    7. +3
      15 October 2020 09: 16
      eeehhh ...... like that give them shelves in the Barents Sea, ungrateful
    8. +5
      15 October 2020 09: 16
      But this colonel would not go to the farm to catch butterflies! Everything they itching to do - Russia should !!! We forgive. In the name of the colonel, one letter must be removed and he will correspond to his essence.
    9. +1
      15 October 2020 09: 17
      Apparently, it was necessary to leave their troops in Norway after its liberation ... Then such teachers would sit quietly in the burrows, like lemmings. Particularly shocking is the set of accusations ... "highley like" has become a statement ...
    10. +2
      15 October 2020 09: 17
      The Stalin Strait will solve many of the world's problems.
      1. -1
        15 October 2020 10: 29
        Nuclear bombing of Oslo could also bring peace to the Norwegian lands for a long time.
    11. +2
      15 October 2020 09: 18
      Here, the author just forgot to add the most important thing:
      1. to surrender at the mercy of an enlightened gayrope and raise a white flag over the Kremlin along with the flag of the LGBT and various other minorities;
      2. to allow all Western crooks to plunder Russia and its people;
      3. to give Norway Murmansk, Arkhangelsk, return St. Petersburg to Sweden and rename it to Shvetsburg;
      4. to invite Poles and various other Balts to Moscow to the Kremlin to govern Russia, otherwise Russia is generally mismanaged;
      5. to convert everyone in Russia into same-sex creatures and write them down as LGBT;
      6. But, most importantly, on the Red Square in front of the Kremlin and on the Palace Square in St. Petersburg, start dismembering giraffes or hippos in front of an honest people, converted into same-sex creatures. Ask why? And so as not to interfere with writing and inventing all sorts of nonsense Lt. Col. Heir Hogen Carlsen, the chief instructor of strategic communications at the Academy of the Armed Forces of Norway, and other teachers and idiots in Norway.
      1. 0
        15 October 2020 10: 34
        But I'm worried, worried about the future of Norway, if you don't interfere
        Quote: The Truth
        write and make up nonsense for Lieutenant Colonel Heir Hogen Carlsen, Chief Strategic Communications Lecturer at the Norwegian Armed Forces Academy
        , then imagine what kind of stupid people are raised in these academies. The problem is not even that they are afraid of Russia at the bios level, the problem is that this so-called
        Quote: The Truth
        teachers and idiots in Norway.

        the opportunity is given to put the program and stamps into the heads of immature generations.
    12. +1
      15 October 2020 09: 18
      There are only relatives in Norway. This problem should come first.
      First, the West will solve its problems with us, then it will decide with you what to do. So rejoice while We are.
    13. +3
      15 October 2020 09: 19
      Stop the war with Ukraine and withdraw your troops from the occupied territories. 13 thousand dead is enough.

      Does he not know that Ukraine is at war with its own people in Dombass? ... I see.
      Stop killing and assassinating citizens of Western states and Russian oppositionists.

      Such a thing as "proof" apparently is also unknown to him.
      Do not use weapons of mass destruction to kill your own oppositionists and Western citizens.

      Again, where is the evidence? Or, according to his logic, can you still use a bullet or an ice ax?
      Do not conduct large-scale military exercises off the coast of Norway, since Russia has "enough of its own sea."

      Your gallant soldiers from NATO also have places all over Europe, but for some reason, strive to hold YOUR exercises near the borders of the Russian Federation.
      Launch missiles on your own territory and on your territory

      Suddenly, we do just that. What is wrong?
      Advance the exercise and invite observers to attend, in accordance with the Vienna Document.

      Um ... yes, how is it done, your problem is that NATO generals are busy cutting the budget, and not traveling to our exercises.
      Do not practice air attacks on Vardø and other places in Norway.

      Civilian B-52s apparently do not practice attacks, but simply deliver clean air.
      Do not jam GPS signals as this is dangerous to life and health.

      Evidence? No, have not heard...
      Comply with the CFE Treaty (Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe), as it gives us the ability to control each other and fosters trust.

      NATO directly observes ... already smoke from the ears comes from the "rotation" frequency.
      Do not interfere in Western elections, because the West strongly believes in democracy.

      We need you like a cap for a beaver ... They came up with it, investigated it themselves, blamed it themselves, imposed sanctions, and the Russian Federation does not know at all what is going on with the elections.
    14. +2
      15 October 2020 09: 19
      Well, what did you want from Norway if the Baltic states are already threatening to close the Baltic Sea to us, and Poland is ready to destroy our fleet in 7 minutes? In order to be respected, you should be afraid, therefore, you should do what Carlson advised not to do. All point by point, this is a ready-made route for the respect of our country throughout the world.
    15. ANB
      0
      15 October 2020 09: 21
      Well, if Russia fulfills all this, Norway (more precisely, its Armed Forces) will feel good and calm. But what will Russia get for this? Norway must first pay for its peace of mind. It's expensive.
      For example, transferring Svalbard to Russia, the entire economic zone, disbanding the army, placing 5 Russian bases on its territory (and paying for their maintenance, since they will provide security)
      Well, there's a lot more to offer. :)
    16. +3
      15 October 2020 09: 22
      To normalize relations, the West needs to shove their Wishlist in their stern, Lavrov approximately, so he told them
    17. +3
      15 October 2020 09: 24
      laughing Smiled:
      We, the Norwegian military, have a duty to think about the safety of Norway first and foremost.

      - summed up Heir Hogen Carlsen

      And the Czech, Danish, Belgian and French military also think so ...

      Any army is a bearer of traditions.
      Perhaps they were also faithful to duty and worried about the security of their country since 1939 ?!

      I am waiting for an article about the statements of the sergeant of the Luxembourg army about the threats from Russia.

      Koryak proverb: the bear does not listen to the squeals of the euraska.
    18. +3
      15 October 2020 09: 24
      Well, well, why shouldn't the Norway and other European countries fulfill a number of conditions conducive to the establishment of relations, well, at least the following:

      1. Immediately withdraw from its territory, as well as the territory of European countries, all US military bases and employees of US PMCs, leaving only their own (national) military and police units;
      2. Renounce all economic sanctions and restrictions against Russia;
      3. Refuse to interfere in the internal affairs of Russia, including financial and other support for the Russian opposition and all kinds of non-profit organizations operating in Russia;
      4. Refuse any unproven accusations against Russia and its citizens;
      5. In relation to Russia and its citizens, strictly adhere to the norms of international law.

      And then, what does it mean "Proposals to restore friendship with Russia on the basis of bilateral relations will not bring security to Norway" ??? For the safety of Norway, Russia once again has to ??? And why did "Heir Hogen Carlsen, Lieutenant Colonel, Chief Lecturer of Strategic Communications at the Academy of the Armed Forces of Norway" take that Russia so needs, important and needs the security of that Norway ???
    19. +2
      15 October 2020 09: 25
      Is this a strategist or a kindergarten teacher? We cry for all good versus all bad ...
    20. 0
      15 October 2020 09: 27
      ... Obliged, he says, to think ...
      There was Europe, but it became complete ... Europe.
    21. -1
      15 October 2020 09: 30
      The question arises, what does Norway have to do with what Carlsen has listed in Russia's internal affairs? And most importantly, who is he, this Carlsen without a propeller, has any political weight?
    22. +3
      15 October 2020 09: 32
      Norgam is itching to teach. Many such teachers are buried in the Louhsky district of the Republic of Karelia, near the village of Kestenga, near St. Petersburg at the Pulkovo Heights ..
    23. 0
      15 October 2020 09: 32
      Was that exactly what the teacher wrote? And it looks more like the syllable of an autistic from a special school.
      A collection of fierce nonsense that contradicts itself ...
      1. 0
        15 October 2020 10: 08
        So this is their current level. hi
    24. 0
      15 October 2020 09: 40
      No, well, what conceit they have there! They teach just like some elementary school students.
    25. 0
      15 October 2020 09: 40
      Sell ​​the Norwegian's brains, cut off their impudence and send them to a well-known address.
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    28. BAI
      0
      15 October 2020 09: 48
      Heir Hogen Carlsen, Lieutenant Colonel,

      1. Russia owes nothing to Norway.
      2. Reading items 1-10, doubts arise involuntarily as to the adequacy of the author. What did he drink, smoke and what did he inject with before writing this?
    29. +2
      15 October 2020 09: 51
      Fish in Norway is good.
      Notable fish in Norway.
      Everything else is so insignificant that it is not worth considering.
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    31. +1
      15 October 2020 10: 00
      Reading this article, one does not let go of the feeling that the chief instructor of strategic communications at the Norwegian Armed Forces Academy may have been such at some point, but is currently a patient in a psychiatric clinic. Burst out on the basis of hatred for Russia.
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    33. +1
      15 October 2020 10: 05
      Russia started a war with Ukraine and occupied part of its territory ... to reduce tension, Moscow will have to fulfill some requirements
      Everything, then you can not read the verbal diarrhea of ​​the Norwegian. Indeed, it is time to suspend the so-called. "dialogues" with the EU and the Scandinavians who are not members of it, but who are constantly bending the same line of confrontation and who consider it their duty to teach, educate and punish Russia. Ripen to normal, equal and mutually beneficial relations then please.
    34. +2
      15 October 2020 10: 07
      Russia would like to drive you under the bench, that would be for the sake of peace.
    35. +1
      15 October 2020 10: 07
      An individual worthy of a lobotomy !!!
    36. +3
      15 October 2020 10: 10
      Russia has developed a new type of weapon of mass destruction, the Durachok gas. Cases of use against high-ranking Western politicians and the military have been noted, we have another such case. The question is, how long will this last?
    37. -1
      15 October 2020 10: 12
      Russia should, and the West should not.
    38. 0
      15 October 2020 10: 20
      "What could Russia do" - Russians do not give up stop
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    40. +1
      15 October 2020 10: 24
      Proposals to restore friendship with Russia on the basis of bilateral relations will not bring security to Norway, so Moscow will have to fulfill some requirements to reduce tensions.
      The state that has existed for 115 years (November 18, 1905 - the Norwegian parliament unanimously votes for the Danish Prince Charles, electing him king of Norway, the prince notifies that he takes the name of Haakon VII) has never been subjected to aggression by Russia and the USSR. During WWII, Soviet troops liberating the northern part of Norway lost 6000 people killed, or Heir Hogen Carlsen forgot it, just as he forgot that about 15 thousand Norwegians served in Hitler's military formations, in particular in the SS volunteer legion "Norway", defeated near Leningrad, and in the SS Viking division. About 30 thousand citizens were involved in military construction organizations. More than 260 local industrial enterprises worked for the Nazis.
    41. 0
      15 October 2020 10: 28
      This is precisely because Russia is BADLY fulfilling those points that are so worried about the Norwegians and causes them "concern". It is necessary to insist on the tarpaulin more carefully and regale the “colleagues and partners” of the current government with this swill.
    42. -2
      15 October 2020 10: 39
      A number of points are outright junk in the style of "unconditional surrender with ashes sprinkling on the head", but in general - of course, jamming GPS in shipping and fishing areas is not an ice trick, which is true - we really have enough territories, and there is no need to strain their neighbors borders.
      The Norwegians are not Poles or Balts; on the scale of critical anti-Russian policy, they are rather a somewhat tougher version of Finland. So we are objectively not interested in the deterioration of these positions.

      In general, I do not like the very wording "Will fulfill the requirements". In order to demand something, you need to grow up the demand.
    43. 0
      15 October 2020 10: 45
      Well, our next president will certainly fulfill all these Wishlist according to the old habit ..
    44. +1
      15 October 2020 11: 15
      By God, fools!
    45. +1
      15 October 2020 11: 18
      There is an American radar in Vardø. Here he is the target for the attack. What did you think when posting and updating it?
      The Norwegian authorities quickly shut up their own people, who have a house 200 meters away from it, and who protested against the radar. Let this brave military man and his family settle in Vardø under the ball.
    46. 0
      15 October 2020 11: 31
      The Norwegian completely confused the coast ... ate apparently rotten herring
    47. +2
      15 October 2020 12: 35
      Do not use weapons of mass destruction to kill your own oppositionists and Western citizens.
      if this is what the head teacher of strategic communications at the Norwegian Armed Forces Academy says, then I can imagine what nonsense ordinary teachers are talking about.
      Do not conduct large-scale military exercises off the coast of Norway, since Russia has "enough of its own sea."
      Well, they would take and move their Norway away from the Russian seas. In reality, after the collapse of the USSR, the Western world degraded, especially intellectually ...
      the West strongly believes in democracy.
      laughing laughing
    48. 0
      15 October 2020 12: 49
      Test a thermonuclear bomb on Novaya Zemlya.
    49. +3
      15 October 2020 13: 32
      They forgot to mention the main requirement - the termination of the existence of Russia. laughing
    50. +1
      15 October 2020 13: 48
      But if it wants, Norway can achieve the fulfillment of ALL requirements. True, for this you need to join the RF.
    51. +1
      15 October 2020 16: 48
      I have very simple questions for the Norwegians
      1. if they are sure that the Russian Federation invaded Ukraine in 2014, can they name the date, place and who invaded? Ephemeral “presence” and concrete people and groups are two different things.
      2. Can Norway reliably name at least one person in Ukraine with evidence who was killed not by the intangible influence of the Russian Federation, but by a specific person working as part of the “RF invasion forces” on the state of the Russian Federation and not from the MSC by force of persuasion or pan-Slavic vibes, but specifically in Ukraine, in a specific physical way?
      3. Can Norway name at least 2 proven cases of election interference?
      4. How does Norway view the secret operations of England, the USA and Germany with their submarines in Norwegian waters?
      5. About the murders of foreign citizens - who should not be killed? Recently, several figures from the remnants of the Islamic State were killed by aircraft in Syria. Can't they be killed?
      6. About the oppositionists - who exactly did the Russian government kill? I myself have such complaints about the country’s leadership, but who do they mean in Norway? It’s just that they usually talk about people who have never been in the opposition.
      7. About the exercises near Norway - our coasts are nearby. It is impossible to have a fleet and not study close to the coast. Moreover, this requirement goes both ways. When will Norway stop killing our fishermen in international waters?
      8. It’s especially beautiful about weapons of mass destruction. Where and when was a PROVEN case of such use recorded?
      1. 0
        15 October 2020 17: 06
        And point 9. CFE Treaty on Flank Limitations of Armed Forces. It was adopted during the existence of the USSR. The USSR, within its THEN borders, fulfilled it. So where else and where should CURRENT Russia withdraw its troops? Isn't it to the moon? Or even (Fata Morgana is a pipe dream of the West) to disband the army, navy, air force, space forces? And about the seas. Does the United States really have fewer seas and oceans of its own than Russia, that they are also reaching into the Black Sea?
    52. 0
      15 October 2020 16: 54
      I don’t understand why publish this nonsense on VO? Or is this Heir Haugen Carlsen, Lieutenant Colonel, someone very important, an “expert”, and we just can’t do without his opinion?
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    54. 0
      15 October 2020 17: 17
      Have you forgotten, you bastards, whose sea this is? Nothing, let us remind you...
      The Varangian sea is on the waves,
      meeting the Norwegians Lodya flies.
      Baptized Rus on that boat,
      six brothers - a brigand squad.
      Rus' blew the silver horn
      menacing, and loud, and plaintive.
      Rus' struck the Norwegians;
      long-lasting spears thundered
      o damask Norwegian armor.
      The young squad of the ship
      firmly became about the Norwegian.
      They are fat in body, but simple in mind.
      The Norwegian corpse fell upon the corpse.
      And the robber is that squad,
      they didn't fold their armor off their shoulders,
      oprice spears did not touch the fun.
    55. 0
      15 October 2020 17: 46
      Russia should.....and they?
    56. 0
      15 October 2020 19: 16
      Why did Lekha Navalny’s muzzle become wider because of the “mass destruction” weapon “Novichok”, no? people don't die en masse. Only Lekha has diarrhea and that’s all. Where is the mass participation?
    57. +1
      15 October 2020 23: 02
      And for some reason it is never surprising that Russia owes something again. Now even the Norgs, who a little more than 100 years ago called the Russian Emperor nothing more than the White Tsar... Would someone advise this teacher not to drink too much and not to eat rotten fish - this causes hallucinations...
      If we discard all the hee-hee and ha-ha, then this is nothing more than information processing of the population and preparation for a possible conflict. Even if not this, then certainly the creation and consolidation of the image of the enemy in the person of Russia.
    58. 0
      16 October 2020 00: 23
      In general, it’s better for us to disappear, fly to another galaxy, dissolve in acid, but before that, clean up our territory: wash the floors in apartments, build roads, explore natural reserves and place signs everywhere that we are leaving all this as a gift to everyone who wants it. A! Forgot! We also need to arrest and hand over to them everyone who has led us so lousy until now. Well, let’s repent that we were even born into this world... But the stinking bread won’t crack?! angry
    59. +1
      16 October 2020 04: 09
      Just demands. It's already sickening. The same thing: newbie and aggression in everything. There aren't enough brains for more.
      1. +1
        16 October 2020 04: 35
        This is similar to the Polish scenario, which is controlled from overseas in order to deploy missiles, strengthen the military group and Norway, create an image of an enemy among the local population in the person of Russia, etc.
    60. 0
      16 October 2020 05: 52
      REQUIREMENT - do not teach
    61. +1
      16 October 2020 09: 05
      after Russia started a war with Ukraine and occupied part of its territory
      when?!!!! belay
      and why has Sumeria not yet come to this war or are we not there?
    62. +1
      16 October 2020 09: 07
      and Norway can continue to feel safe.
      Personally, I feel violet whether you feel safe or not, at least walk under yourself out of fear, I have enough problems of my own to worry about you
    63. 0
      16 October 2020 09: 09
      We, the Norwegian military, have a duty to think about the safety of Norway first and foremost.
      - summed up Heir Hogen Carlsen


      By definition, out of duty, maybe they should, but in fact, the Norwegian military has never learned to think.
      It would be better to remain silent, they would take him for smart.
    64. 0
      16 October 2020 13: 52
      You (Norwegians) take care of your safety and we take care of ours. And don’t come up with any nonsense, it won’t work.
    65. 0
      16 October 2020 17: 08
      Forgot point 11:
      Give Siberia to Norway. Then the norgs will become friends with us.

      Complete clown.
      Almost all points are about what has not been proven and will not be proven.
      1. 0
        16 October 2020 20: 11
        I'm sorry, "norgs", is this slang for the word "Norwegians"?
        This is not the first time I have come across such a term.
        Thank you.
        1. 0
          16 October 2020 20: 16
          Come on. In sports they are called that all the time.
    66. 0
      16 October 2020 19: 57
      I collected all the cliches in one pile. You need to have a snack.
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    68. 0
      16 October 2020 20: 08
      We have Masha Zakharova.
      Dancing and singing (well, what else do they teach at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs?)

      "A nice lady in every way"
      as Gleb Georgievich Zheglov used to say.
      Come to an agreement with her (that is, with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs),
      while she gives you Kalinka-Malinka with Lezginka
      didn't dance. This is a threat.

      And then call the owners, we’ll talk.
      While you Norwegians are grumbling in your stomach
      from the owner, you can’t make out the meaning,
      and there is no one to talk to. With your salmon
      Or should we negotiate directly?
    69. +1
      21 October 2020 13: 00
      If we summarize the wishes of this “lieutenant colonel,” the result can be expressed in one short phrase: they want Russia to not exist.
      1. -1
        21 October 2020 13: 10
        That's about it.
        This is called demonizing the enemy and making obviously unrealistic demands.
    70. 0
      21 October 2020 14: 54
      Eat fish and don’t try to get involved in politics; it’s the last thing for a military man. and say thank you that Russia is taking care of your safety

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