Ice under Lukashenka's feet

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Ice under Lukashenka's feet
Photo: kotragachuka, Telegram

They laugh easily, they have lively eyes.
They are defenseless, they like to live.
And they are all together, and it has always been so.
They are the last to remember what light is.

Egor Letov. We are ice under the feet of the major


The protest movement continues for the third month in Belarus. And, obviously, the protest will continue no matter what.



You can talk and write a lot about the fact that "the hand of the West is at work" there, even we had many "experts" who amused (although this is laughter through tears) tales of Poland's evil plans to attack Belarus and squeeze Grodno, but ... It is difficult to prove external funding. Unlike Ukraine, where everyone knew the rates and no one really hid it.

Either in Belarus everything is done taking into account the Ukrainian sloppiness, and information about bribery simply does not leak (believe it?) To the side, or the protest really comes from the heart.

After two months, only one thing can be said: the protest movement has not been suppressed. It has not developed into a Ukrainian-style Maidan and most likely will not grow, because it plays into the hands of some forces. Therefore, most likely, we will never see barricades, destroyed and looted shops. The wrong people, obviously.

But August 9 was a kind of starting point. It was hoped that this was just a point, but the past days have shown that yes, there can be no return to the past. Approximately as in Ukraine, but (glory to the Belarusians) without blood. Almost without blood.

Meetings. Demonstrations. Further continuation: workers' strikes, protests of teachers, doctors, women's marches and demonstrations of pensioners. And yes, of course, young people.


Photo by: TUT.BY

Those who do not want to see the mass character and diversity of the composition of the protesters will not. But on the whole, the protest actions have confirmed that various segments of the population are participating in the movement against Lukashenka. It is difficult to judge how real they are all engaged. Only one thing is clear: the lower on the social ladder, the more support for the protest. And this is perfectly normal, because those at the top of the food chain do not need protest.

Media reports began to appear that demonstrations were either slowing down (one point of view), or vice versa, becoming fewer, but more severe. Hinting, as it were, that here he is, the "Maidan" in the flesh. From among the engaged and paid marginals.

However, many believe that the incessant protests, which could not stop the outright atrocities and overshoots of the police system, just confirm that Lukashenka really lost his legitimacy, "slightly" outplaying the elections.

Both versions have the right to life.

But the very attitude of Lukashenka to popular demonstrations is another proof for the second. All the peremptory statements and stigma that he generously threw in the direction of the protesters, without the slightest attempt to listen and agree. Either you are "for" - or a traitor paid for by the West.

In general, it is normal and justified for a dictatorship or a totalitarian state. Another question is how much the West will appreciate it, with which Alexander Grigorievich has been flirting so zealously for the last couple of years?

The West will not evaluate it unambiguously. There is a triumph of democracy, albeit in a rather perverted form. And precisely because this is a perverted democracy, Lukashenka shines political isolation from the very Europe, with which he was so eager to be friends.

It is clear that full-fledged isolation will not happen, Russia, naturally, will not abandon “her own” in trouble. However, there are also nuances here.

Russia's support for Belarus, more precisely, Putin's support for Lukashenko is a reality. This is a completely normal reality, no matter how you look at it, but ...

How “solvent” Lukashenka is today as a politician? Doubts arise in spite of the fact that the siloviki are openly fierce, and "order has not been restored." Despite the tear gas, batons, boots and rubber bullets used to treat Belarusians. And not only Belarusians.


Photo: Radio Liberty - Belarus

But the protest continues unabated. No matter what.

Meanwhile, the Belarusian civil society deserves the highest praise as acting exclusively in the legal field.

Moreover, it should be borne in mind that the first three days after the elections, when the society, to put it mildly, was surprised beyond measure by the results, it still did not suit the indignation according to the Ukrainian scenario.

And it was the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Belarus that provoked further indignation, trying, according to orders, to suppress the protest actions with the utmost severity. But, in fact, it is the actions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs that do not let the protests subside. The resistance continues simply because the security forces are pouring gasoline into this fire.


Photo: Radio Liberty - Belarus

In Belarus today, to be beaten, you just need to go out and go or go about your business. You can do it, but the main thing is not to be seen by the security forces. Sorry, reminds some of the moments of the Belarusian stories, but today no Ausweiss will help. Proven by Russian TASS correspondents.

The beatings backfired, but even in this case, Lukashenko decided that the best way to defend himself was to attack. But then everyone really started to resent. Even the church.

Then there was a certain lull, which can hardly be called an assessment of the situation. The parties assessed each other's capabilities, after which the Belarusian authorities launched a decisive offensive.

It’s a strange moment: the intensity of the protests really began to gradually decrease, but for some reason Lukashenka arranged this meeting in the pre-trial detention center. Based on the rather vague explanations of the official channels, he wanted to talk about the changes to the constitution ... with the arrested oppositionists!

An interesting version. Legal "sharaga" in a pre-trial detention center is more than original. But there is another version, which speaks of Lukashenka's attempt to bargain with Babariko and Tikhanovsky. 4,5 hours of "dialogue" within the walls of the pre-trial detention center is a lot. For a president of the country who can afford to spend so much time on potential prisoners, this is a strong move.

But these actions only shook people up. And again the authorities threw gasoline into the fire. Well, let's not judge.

But here it becomes clear how low the level of trust in any actions of Lukashenka is.

Belarus today is facing not just a crisis, but a long and protracted political crisis. Classic, when the people do not want to live in the old way, and the authorities cannot rule in a new way.

Today Lukashenka relies exclusively on a forceful scenario.

Since the beginning of the protests, on August 9, the police have detained about 14 thousand people. 3 people were killed, 79 were missing, 3 of the missing were found dead. The number of people beaten by the police and security forces is estimated in the thousands. It is impossible to find exact figures, the opposition may exaggerate, the official channels, quite naturally, are trying with all their might to shield themselves.

A power scenario is a dictatorship. And the world does not like dictatorships today. Reducing their number, let's say, by the entire world community with rare exceptions.

Putin expressed support for Lukashenka. CSTO, "we are not abandoning our own", loans and so on. And here an analogy question arises.

Don't we think that all this is very similar to Ukraine and Viktor Yanukovych?

Yes, many will say: there is a difference. Yanukovych could have suppressed the "Maidan" in the bud, and nothing would have happened in Ukraine. Maybe.

As a result, in Ukraine we have a simplified regime concentration camp, where outspoken Nazis act as guards, persecuting dissidents.

In the case of Belarus, everything is the same, only the role of the Ukrainian Nazis is played by security officials, judges and state officials.

Actually, the question arises: what difference does it make who is standing on the tower with a machine gun (exaggerating, yes), a riot policeman or a terrorist soldier, if he is still on the tower with a machine gun? And you can only say what is pleasant for the authorities to hear? And a machine gun as an argument?

Mr. Lukashenko now rests solely on Putin's promise to help and on the bayonets of the forcefully coaxed security officials. The siloviki will continue to beat and maim ordinary citizens, because in the event of Lukashenka's fall, they will be torn apart.


Photo: Radio Liberty - Belarus

More than one billion dollars were poured into Yanukovych. And where are these billions? The situation is about the same with Lukashenka. Will Russia's money save him or will it be like that of a Ukrainian colleague? .. It's a matter of time.

In any case, Lukashenka's position is not the strongest, and therefore Putin should very clearly calculate every move, investing in Lukashenka. Otherwise, it can really come out like Yanukovych. I wouldn't want to.

After all, the situation is really similar: both Yanukovych and Lukashenka really "got" almost the entire population of their countries. And history is a very harmful thing, there are enough repetitions.

I am specifically speaking about the promises of Putin, not Russia. These are different sides of the coin. But the situation is really stalemate: the Belarusian authorities are trying to use force, not trying to establish a dialogue, just suppress all the speeches. The protesters, despite the fact that their leaders were imprisoned, and the rest (Tikhanovskaya, for example) do not demonstrate either independence or a clear position, they are demonstrating their readiness to continue protest actions.


Photo: Vlad Borisevich / Onliner

Fight for attrition. Despite the fact that Lukashenka has removed from the political scene all competitors, some abroad, some in jail, he will hardly be able to remove the last obstacle. Simply because they are a large part of the people.

Therefore, one should not even think that the Belarusians will give up and surrender. On the contrary, as practice shows, another political blunder of Lukashenka only causes another surge of unrest and demonstrations. If the problem was only in the recount of votes, then, quite possibly, everything would have happened as in Russia with the constitution - they made some noise and dispersed.

But the problem of Belarus is much deeper, there is not just a conflict between the “upper and lower classes”, there is a complete unwillingness of the authorities to enter into dialogue with the people, and vice versa, a pronounced desire to live according to the model and likeness of the past.

But the world is changing, it has changed in this case, completely oblivious to the unwillingness of the Belarusian authorities to change with it.

It was not for nothing that I put lines from the famous song of our Yegor Letov at the beginning. They are prophetic in many ways. And the unwillingness of the Belarusians to live in the old way can really become ice under Mr. Lukashenka's patent boots.
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  1. +19
    15 October 2020 05: 26
    The protest movement continues for the third month in Belarus.
    and about Khabarovsk will be?
    1. +12
      15 October 2020 05: 40
      oh) no need) there is already a frank Navalnovsky circus remained. as they did not provoke the security forces, they did not touch them. now they really got mad with impunity and decided that setting up tents in the central square of the city and turning on the loudspeakers would be a complete ride. but this was no longer tolerated.
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        1. -8
          15 October 2020 06: 07
          well, cockroaches are tenacious)
          1. +43
            15 October 2020 07: 05
            The third month of Maydan. And what do they eat? Where does the money come from? Any Maidan requires funding. What funds? They discuss politics for free only in the kitchen, everything else requires money. So without financial and informational support from the West, the Maidan is not possible, and Western financiers openly support the cook Tikhanovskaya.
            Is the daddy atrocities? And what is happening in the West? In the USA and Germany, the COMENDANT CLOCK is introduced in cities without any elections. In France and Bulgaria, children are dispersed with batons and tear gas. The dad is just an angel compared to Western preziks.
            And about the repeated poisoning of Navalny by Novichok: four days ago they hunted cockroaches with Dichlorvos with his brother, his brother is still with allergies. It's just that in the West they don't know anything about the chemical warfare agent DICHLOFOS.
            1. +23
              15 October 2020 07: 37
              Quote: Bearded
              It's just that in the West they don't know anything about the chemical warfare agent DICHLOFOS.

              1. +8
                16 October 2020 04: 43
                Did the girl survive three attacks without changing clothes or changing the condition of her hair?
                Didn't even comb her hair.
                I was always amazed at how easily outright fakes pass if people want to believe in them.
                The child was simply carried out of the danger zone by three people in turn.
                1. +2
                  16 October 2020 06: 21
                  Quote: Avior
                  The child was simply carried out of the danger zone by three people in turn.

                  What is not ten? If you did not understand there were no dangerous zones at all.
                  1. +2
                    16 October 2020 07: 27
                    If you do not understand, these three particular photos are a deception, calculated on the fact that people will blindly believe him.
                    We took three photos from one event and pretended that they were taken at different times.
                    And for what purpose they did it, this is the second question.
                    1. 0
                      16 October 2020 10: 27
                      Quote: Avior
                      If you do not understand, these three photos specifically

                      a visual exposure of the lies of your masters.
                  2. +2
                    16 October 2020 07: 27
                    If you do not understand, these three particular photos are a deception, calculated on the fact that people will blindly believe him.
                    We took three photos from one event and pretended that they were taken at different times.
                    And why this deception was invented is the second question.
                    1. +1
                      17 October 2020 08: 46
                      Quote: Avior
                      If you do not understand, these three particular photos are a deception, calculated on the fact that people will blindly believe him.

                      Well Duc comrade you and wrote "lies of your masters." who are your masters? Americans. their lies? them. What's not clear?
            2. +11
              15 October 2020 08: 05
              Test, Beardach. It would be nice to analyze the Belarusian events through the prism of the movement of yellow vests and macronism in France (obviously, it will not turn out in favor of the totalitarian frogs).
              And then:
              1. far-fetched comparisons with the events in Ukraine. Moreover, some abstract Nazis are condemned, and not the fascist Zelensky regime, which prohibits the Russian language, freedom of speech, eliminating dissent.
              2. the praise of the protesters - in fact, a handful of people who are not able to look: well, what are the Ukrainians doing there? and fold one to one
              I will not analyze each stuffing.
              1. +1
                15 October 2020 15: 28
                The European Union has imposed sanctions on Russia for poisoning the Primary Dichlorvos: it poured too much into beer. Lavrov is once again concerned, our anxious))) Miller pumps gas into the vaterland.
                And it is necessary in response to impose an embargo on oil and gas supplies to Europe in winter, and see what will happen to energy prices. Western courts will impose sanctions on us for failure to fulfill contracts for the supply of oil and gas. In response, we can arrest the shares of Western companies in our Gazprom, Rosneft and other companies. But for this you need to have steel cuckolds, like Stalin's, or at least, like Khrushchev's.
                P we will continue to mock. Concerned pancake. Sounds like a sex minority. Russia is the sixth economy in the world, and the people are poor. But our oligarchs have yachts that are cooler than our Navy. Ugh on them.
                1. -2
                  15 October 2020 17: 54
                  For this, are you ready to cut your salary by about 30-50 percent?
                  Quote: Bearded
                  For this, are you ready to cut your salary by about 30-50 percent?
                2. Ali
                  -7
                  16 October 2020 00: 34
                  Bearded man! Completely right.
                  Belarusians will destroy their industry for the sake of the West and will walk the world with outstretched hand!
                  They are waiting for:
                  Goodbye MAZ, goodbye Belaz ...
                  Hello Polish toilet ...

                  Sorry brothers ...
                  1. Ali
                    -1
                    16 October 2020 12: 51
                    My answer to the Belarusian minusators and other sympathizers. A guide to color revolutions in action. You can't kill the truth !:
              2. +3
                15 October 2020 20: 04
                Navel: "... in fact a handful of incapable ..." Seriously, a handful ??? Have you turned off the Internet? Or do you only show BT in the village, and the Internet has never been seen before? Before you talk nonsense, work out the materiel, it is useful for you and others will not twist their fingers at their temples while reading you ...
                1. -4
                  15 October 2020 21: 51
                  Quote: Moss
                  Navel: "... in fact a handful of incapable ..." Seriously, a handful ??? Have you turned off the Internet? Or do you only show BT in the village, and the Internet has never been seen before? Before you talk nonsense, work out the materiel, it is useful for you and others will not twist their fingers at their temples while reading you ...

                  Why should I watch the Great Russia Russophobic BT? There it went and stupid. Some time ago I was stuck on HERE buy, where, obviously, I enjoyed some popularity, doing explanatory work among the zmagars. Before the elections in the blue-eyed, he was banned without explanation, just in case, as it always happens in the pro-Western media.
                  For those who are not in the subject HERE buy is one of the centers of Internet protest in Bulbanistan.
                  So here, throw off the link to "not a handful of protesters" at least for the last week.
                  Hope you won't go down the toilet?
                  I'm waiting.
                  1. 0
                    17 October 2020 08: 50
                    Quote: navel
                    Hope you won't go down the toilet?

                    hike merged wassat
                    no, their business is dead. what kind of "nasty revolution" is there when pytsriots merge like this? request
                2. -1
                  16 October 2020 01: 15
                  Mossu Go to the march, the riot police can clear their brains if they don't work!
            3. +15
              15 October 2020 08: 30
              Quote: Bearded
              Is the daddy atrocities? And what is happening in the West? In the USA and Germany, the COMENDANT CLOCK is introduced in cities without any elections.


              In response to accusations of "atrocities", it is necessary to quote official figures, and not stupid hysterical opposition cries about "raped" with batons: as many as two months have been instituted .... 3 thousand ADMINISTRATIVE cases (these are fines) are nothing at all, they are like that " atrocities. "
              and only ... 275 criminal cases: for attacks on police officers, assaults, etc. (which is logical)

              And yes - who and what gave the oppam and their justifiers the RIGHT to speak from for the PEOPLE Belarus? With what fright?

              And they stand for Lukashenka Millions of voters and these silent FOR have the RIGHT to vote not lessthan shouting AGAINST.

              The marches of screaming hysterics-youngsters are a spectacle so shameful and disgusting that it is incomprehensible how the admiring people do not see it.

              And yes, after the victory of these screeching youngsters in Moldova in 2009, they are practically in full force ...left wash the experience and spread your legs to the West: that "victory of democracy" that THEY have achieved ...Did NOT give them a job or the opportunity to exist at home.

              Here's what to remember and at least KNOW
              1. -3
                15 October 2020 09: 39
                “Millions are worth?” A man who is worth millions will not conduct a secret inauguration and secretly take its participants there. If he had announced it in advance, he would have seen completely different millions on the streets and in every window.
                1. +3
                  15 October 2020 23: 26
                  Quote: Anton S
                  I would see completely different millions

                  Yes "WOULD" interfere.
              2. +9
                15 October 2020 09: 45
                Quote: Olgovich
                The marches of screaming hysterics-youngsters are a spectacle so shameful and disgusting that it is incomprehensible how the admiring people do not see it.

                You said that well.
              3. -10
                15 October 2020 10: 29
                Have any criminal cases been opened against the security forces who committed the murders? One unarmed demonstrator was shot from thirty meters away (the video can be easily found on the Internet). There are no guilty ones, everything is fine. The authorities are also silent about torture in the temporary detention facility, as the AHL said: let's turn the page.
                1. +9
                  15 October 2020 10: 49
                  Are you talking about someone who had served 7 years before, it seems, for inflicting grave deaths? He was so re-educated that he popped on the security forces? Is there proof? data? Or will we take everyone's word for it, like that red-haired girl with low social responsibility? they could slap in the face. I believe. put my muzzle on the asphalt also believe. but I don’t believe about needles under the nails and other clubs.
                  1. -2
                    16 October 2020 02: 14
                    from biathlete Domracheva, who took half of all the gold from the last Olympiad of her beloved athlete Tarakan, so her brother was from ... the cops the day before yesterday so he is sleeping right now, like he was driving a fox-pedaled past ...
                    I understand the position of local patriots in printsype - Strong Potato trades in sovereignty in exchange for loyalty, which is in the hands of the Kremlin to expand the borders of the empire. as I also understand why the Beolorians gradually disappeared from this site ...
                    I think Vova still makes a mistake saving a cockroach and turning Belarusians away from Russians
                    1. +5
                      16 October 2020 03: 18
                      you mean those who go under the white-red flag? my friends and relatives, let's say nothing turns away from us, but rather the opposite. it is not worth talking about the whole country, let alone the nation.
                    2. +3
                      16 October 2020 08: 49
                      Quote: kitty
                      artoshik trades in sovereignty

                      You tell us about the "sovereignty" of Ukraine, Moldova, Lithuania, and make the audience laugh, yes ...
                2. +6
                  15 October 2020 11: 44
                  Quote: Anton S
                  Have any criminal cases been opened against the security forces who committed the murders?


                  Do you ever confuse "sinful with correct"?
                  By law, representatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other structures involved in the protection of law and order are granted the right, mind you - an exclusive right. violence and the use of weapons. at the discretion of that very representative, in order to protect both the government and the state system, and his own life, honor and dignity. Do you want to deprive the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of this right? And what do you get in the end? And the question of excessive application of this right is already the second question. On, not entirely, legal grounds, the protesters are trying to overthrow the government - VIOLATION OF THE LAW, the violator of the law must be held accountable, as a rule, imprisonment, up to and including deprivation of life. For - the opposition of the personal desires of an individual to the laws of society is UNACCEPTABLE. And about the "beaten passers-by" - adequate people sit at home, so as not to "catch up" by chance, but those who do not have enough adrenaline, go for a ride on a bike, then wander with a kid, which purposefully warm up the situation. Each beaten cyclist is a plus for the protesters, from the court we can conclude that the whole crowd should not be paid. it is cheaper and more effective to pay to one "dad with a stroller", "a pensioner with a dog" or "a blogger on a bike ride", and again - "to give a paw" to an OMON officer, one of the platoon, is also more effective and cheaper.

                  I do not believe in the Belarusian protests as an expression of the will of the people, as well as in "Khabarovsk", as well as in the "yellow vests", I think that all this is quite generously funded. Negroes also do not riot for free in the United States. And all the adherents of building a global world with a global economy and a world government finance this.

                  A normal person is busy raising children (and if they are not there, he decides whether to appear), building a house, planting a tree, hunting a mammoth (earning money for food), he has no time to "overthrow an unwanted dictator."
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                  3. -4
                    15 October 2020 12: 25
                    "The law, representatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other structures involved in the protection of law and order are granted the right, mind you - the exclusive right. To violence and the use of weapons" - ie. now you can blame people, and then say: excuse me, I have an exclusive right?
                    "A normal person is busy raising children (and if they are not there, decides whether to appear), building a house, planting a tree, hunting a mammoth (earning money for food), he has no time to" overthrow an unwanted dictator. "- Everyone has their own understanding of normality, normal a person does not want to feel like a cattle in his country.
                    1. 0
                      15 October 2020 13: 37
                      why should they apologize? these are the principles of any state in the world, the right to violence. for some reason it does not come to me. probably due to the fact that I simply do not break the laws and do not participate in mass booths.
                      1. +2
                        15 October 2020 13: 59
                        Well, if you are always silent, no matter what they do to you, then maybe they will not touch ...
                        This is a good position ... safe until a certain point
                      2. -1
                        15 October 2020 14: 03
                        normal. I'm not a heifer that would use me for someone's interests. there is a definition - Madness is an exact repetition of one and the same action. Time after time, hoping for a change. so much of this has happened and it always gets worse. but with manic persistence more and more people repeat other people's mistakes. how many of these revolutions have there been in recent years? who got better from them?
                      3. -2
                        15 October 2020 15: 26
                        Can the authorities use you as they want? Is this normal? "No matter what happens ...".
                        Everything is clear with your position
                      4. -2
                        15 October 2020 15: 51
                        that's why she is the power. do you imagine it differently? at all times, in all corners of the world, power is always used by the population. from taxes to service for his benefit. in the case of the Protestants, whoever pays for it will use me. the choice is quite obvious.
                      5. +2
                        15 October 2020 16: 09
                        I speak with your position "the master will come here ...", everything is clear
                      6. -1
                        15 October 2020 16: 55
                        Quote: Revival
                        "The master is coming ...", everything is clear

                        That is, you are proposing to liquidate the state?
                      7. +4
                        16 October 2020 00: 11
                        I propose to eliminate the arbitrariness of people who call themselves a state in their own interests, contrary to the interests of the bulk of the people
                      8. +2
                        16 October 2020 06: 23
                        Quote: Revival
                        I suggest

                        allow the arbitrariness of people who want to destroy it.
                      9. +3
                        16 October 2020 12: 43
                        Well, your proposal is somehow inadequate
                      10. -1
                        16 October 2020 15: 08
                        Quote: Revival
                        Well your suggestion

                        corresponds to the realities of life.
                      11. +2
                        15 October 2020 23: 10
                        my position is to respect the laws of the country in which you live. and the norms of the society that surrounds.
                      12. +9
                        15 October 2020 23: 28
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        my position is to respect the laws of the country in which you live. and the norms of the society that surrounds.

                        It is understood that this respect is imperative for the common people. Is that so? But the authorities, from your point of view, on the laws of the country, and other garbage, can score in full. So?
                      13. +7
                        16 October 2020 00: 56
                        Exactly!
                        Well, take Lipchanin (nickname), so he directly admitted that if the law was adopted that one should be a slave, then he should be! Oh how!
                        Because as the law!
                        We even got to the fascist laws! I admitted everything !, as supposedly the law !!!
                        This is who you should feel yourself !!!!!!!

                        Another, like the nickname Gato, admitted backed to the wall, having no arguments against the facts of being, that it would be better to be a slave of the present than someone else !!! A slave !!
                        Ps with the nickname Gato, I'm not 100% sure about memory in the heat, so if I made a mistake by accident, I ask you to seriously excuse me, I broke the phone with chrins, I'm ready for serious investigation if the site stores data.
                      14. +1
                        16 October 2020 01: 42
                        are you normal compliance with the laws of the state is your responsibility as a citizen of that country. you are not prohibited from renouncing citizenship and dumping nafig if you do not want to live legally and fulfill your duties.
                      15. +4
                        16 October 2020 12: 07
                        I'm normal.
                        Is it also a duty to comply with savage, inhuman laws?
                        The SS men also thought so, I didn't think that you were going there too ...
                        And if the law comes out that the slaves will now be those and those?
                        I envy your humility and humility
                      16. -3
                        16 October 2020 12: 56
                        is it such a perverted logic to compare everything with Nazism? 90 percent of the population who does not participate in this booth live on them and calmly. and only a noisy minority decided again that it had the right to speak for everyone. this minority has assumed the right to decide for everyone. tell everyone how to live and what to respect. this very minority has reformatted half of the world so that it is already scary.
                      17. +4
                        16 October 2020 13: 12
                        No, this is a method to which you have nothing to adequately answer
                      18. -3
                        16 October 2020 13: 35
                        I really cannot adequately answer nonsense and nonsense) I'm not 15 years old, forgive me. I am quite literate to know the definition of Nazism and how to apply it.
                      19. +2
                        16 October 2020 15: 11
                        Yes, I noticed that you answer inadequately
                      20. -2
                        16 October 2020 15: 16
                        Well, I didn't ask you to evaluate my adequacy) I don't care about it
                      21. +3
                        16 October 2020 15: 23
                        Yes, I already understood that the adequacy of you on the drum, I understood
                      22. -1
                        19 October 2020 22: 51
                        so now the former SS men and forest brothers (more precisely, their children), who burned your villages and killed children, burned alive, took blood for the Wehrmacht soldiers command your maydanuts and Tikhanovskaya passionately kisses them. The rattle is stupid., Who bought (judging by her English) a diploma in the transition.
                      23. +4
                        16 October 2020 17: 35
                        If according to the "law" they will rob me, then I will fight against this law and against those who adopted this law.
                      24. 0
                        17 October 2020 00: 49
                        Quote: Fan-Fan
                        If according to the "law" they will rob me, then I will fight against this law and against those who adopted this law.

                        laughing laughing laughing You reminded me of the meme now, there is a picture that depicts a guy and a "girl" in the ninth month of pregnancy, holding a pregnancy test in their hands, and surprise on their faces. Signed - advertisement, pregnancy test in Estonia.
                      25. -2
                        17 October 2020 12: 27
                        Quote: Fan-Fan
                        If according to the "law" they will rob me, then I will fight against this law and against those who adopted this law.

                        that is, you should rob, not you?
                      26. +7
                        16 October 2020 01: 39
                        no. but there are legal and civilized methods. and not the opinion of the minority that dictates to the majority their Wishlist. while behaving as he wants, hammering on his laws and responsibilities. I'm from Khabarovsk. I've been watching all this big top for several months too. these loud and chatty people who speak for the rest are hated by the whole city. in prosecutors and police departments thousands of statements that they interfere with people's lives and violate order.
                      27. +2
                        16 October 2020 12: 44
                        Apparently Exactly so!
                        They say we are small people, it is not our mind's business, and so on.
                        Ideal mass for exploitation and abuse
                      28. -1
                        17 October 2020 12: 31
                        Quote: Revival
                        Ideal mass for exploitation and abuse

                        oops! won as about 90% of the population of Belarus belay
                        and the Nazis under the white-red-white flags are your friends? Ie it is normal that all their leaders managed to speak out for a break with Russia? chtol your passionaries? belay
                      29. +1
                        17 October 2020 14: 23
                        about 90%!?
                        Feel free to say so! Unreasonably
                      30. -1
                        17 October 2020 14: 36
                        Quote: Revival
                        Feel free to say so! Unreasonably

                        on the contrary, it is quite reasonable. at the peak of the protest, the number of protesters fell short of 10% of the population.
                        and how are you? do you prefer the most reliable opinion polls from the Polish neksta or personal statements of the guaydikha? laughing
                      31. +1
                        17 October 2020 14: 37
                        Yeah, do you count children too?
                      32. +2
                        16 October 2020 00: 19
                        Here I am about the same, but first of all these same laws should be respected by the leadership, as soon as not, then the second part of the "respect process" should and has the right to bring the first violator into a state of "respect for the laws she violated."
                        That's it!
                      33. +2
                        16 October 2020 00: 52
                        That's it! And anyone who does not respect the laws of his country from the president to the homeless should be punished by law, and the higher the position (privileges), the tougher !!!
                        Any!
                      34. +1
                        16 October 2020 01: 48
                        and I agree with you. and the crowd running around the city in what place does it according to the law? which does not obey the lawful demands of the police? all these are attempts to extinguish the flame with an even larger flame. the law cannot be protected by breaking it yourself whenever you want. the minority should not shout over the majority.
                      35. +3
                        16 October 2020 12: 46
                        So give an example of how you can actually achieve something by a different method, but if you propose to simply humbly be silent in a rag, then this is not a method.
                        And yes, just don't write about "going to court" ..
                      36. -3
                        16 October 2020 12: 51
                        to start doing everything according to the law. and not flock to the center and pump the right. there are ordinary people and walk and live. something about their rights, these fighters do not remember.
                      37. +2
                        16 October 2020 13: 11
                        I'm asking you what can be done according to the law? What is the method to Really achieve something?
                        You just don't need to go to court ...
                      38. 0
                        16 October 2020 13: 33
                        you will not believe, but for example rallies can be coordinated) arrange everything according to the law. no one interfered with Tikhanovskaya's election campaign) what was the problem after? )
                      39. +2
                        16 October 2020 15: 10
                        To approve?
                        Or you may not agree, and ..
                        Will they agree on a lot? Continuous refusals.
                        And the meeting with the topic of falsification of elections is definitely not coordinated.
                        For example, they did not agree on what is the next legal method to change the situation in real terms?
                      40. -2
                        16 October 2020 15: 12
                        Well, this is already beyond the bounds ... but who tried it?) Or did they just vypzhali herd on the face and not waiting for the end of the election?)))
                      41. +2
                        16 October 2020 15: 27
                        What's beyond?
                        Don't you know that the lion's share of applications is rejected?
                        So I ask, did not agree, then what?
                      42. -3
                        16 October 2020 15: 34
                        Again. Nobody prevented Tikhonovsova from gathering people before the elections. Where did you get the idea what to interfere with the stanut after? But they decided to deliberately ignore this tool and immediately press for violation of the law. That's all. As for the other options, the point is now to talk about this temmv when she and her party initially went into conflict and made a mess in the country? They didn't plan to do everything according to the law.
                      43. +3
                        16 October 2020 15: 51
                        "As for other variants, it makes sense now to talk about this temmv ..".

                        I ask you, in principle, about further methods, and not about the actions of Tikhanovskaya and so on.

                        You simply have nothing to say, because you are at a dead end, because if they do not agree, then there are no other methods in the law, since the law is written for yourself and for yourself.

                        And you simply do not want to come to this conclusion, but objectively you cannot come up with something.

                        So again:
                        You have proposed a method, an agreed meeting.
                        Suppose the meeting is not coordinated.
                        What to do next to really change the situation?
                        (Do not suggest going to a government-controlled court, especially considering that the law may not necessarily have an obligation to coordinate).
                      44. +1
                        16 October 2020 22: 51
                        Before the elections, Babariko was the main candidate until he was removed. And before the elections, they began to disperse the queues of those wishing to put signatures in support of the candidates.
                      45. +1
                        17 October 2020 14: 26
                        Are you out of suggestions for legal methods?
                        What should have been stated
                      46. +1
                        18 October 2020 23: 10
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        Nobody prevented Tikhonovsova from gathering people before the elections.

                        Really? Clarify for all cases of how the authorities occupied all permitted sites for this. Pre-agreed two weeks before. In law. And there were only SIX of them in Minsk in the backyards.
                        Explain why, on a certain date, each site began a celebration of unprecedented communal generosity. They dug holes, planted flowers, dealt with scenes, suddenly the tiles or other whims of public utilities were shifted.
                        Explain why the people standing in line at the closing (in a few days) shop came to knit riot police.

                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        But they decided to deliberately ignore this tool and immediately press for violation of the law

                        The headquarters of Tsepkalo and Babariko, and later the united one, followed the law to the very last letter. How did it end? The first one left for Russia (until they filed for him on the wanted list) because they were going to knit him and his children.
                        The second is still in jail with his son. Followed to the last letter of the law. And the authorities do not care about the law.
                        And now all his lawyers have their licenses taken away. To be truncated according to the law.

                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        when she and her supporters initially went into conflict

                        Interfere with the collection of signatures for candidates, sit down candidates (Tikhanovsky has been sitting since May for the fact that the unfortunate Ministry of Internal Affairs fell three meters away from him and this was recorded by a camera), put people in queues in shops, in queues when filing complaints with the CEC (By law as you like), interfere with campaigning, interfere with events, plant volunteers, plant signature collectors and a huge list. This is all falshchyuka from Poland and they went into conflict.

                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        made a mess in the country

                        Truncated by law
                      47. -2
                        17 October 2020 12: 34
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        Or just vypzhali herd on the face and without waiting for the end of the election?)))

                        why just? not at all simple, but coordinated through the Internet by a strange coincidence of circumstances based in Poland, Lithuania and the Czech Republic.
                      48. +1
                        16 October 2020 22: 47
                        After the last agreed rally, where, according to various estimates, from 40 to 60 thousand came, all subsequent rallies were no longer allowed to be coordinated under the pretext like "the day of the railway troops is taking place on this site," although this type of troops was abolished a couple of years ago.
                      49. +2
                        17 October 2020 14: 44
                        Stop hiding behind the interests of ordinary people, they break the silence, and so on.
                        For the passage of "VIP persons" the roads are blocked because of one face for many, why don't you care about the inconvenience for "ordinary" people?
                        And there is no need for double standards, since in one case it is possible because of a supposedly important matter, then the reason for the rally is no less important!
                        Well, for the sake of their interests, since you are so worried, remove the reason for people to go to the rally on the very first day. There will be no reason for a rally and will not gather for a rally and make noise and interfere on the roads. AND?
                        What immediately diminished worries?
                      50. -3
                        17 October 2020 18: 02
                        Quote: Revival
                        remove on the first day the reason people went to the rally.

                        The police and the KGB are doing this.
                        Quote: Revival
                        Stop hiding behind the interests of ordinary people

                        You and your colleagues really have enough.
                      51. +1
                        17 October 2020 19: 49
                        Damn, I thought who wrote, but this is again ... a liar ...
                      52. -2
                        17 October 2020 20: 31
                        Quote: Revival
                        Damn, I thought who wrote

                        Again there is nothing to object.
                        Quote: Revival
                        again it's ... a liar

                        Said the liar plowing on Uncle Sam.
                      53. +2
                        18 October 2020 01: 37
                        You are a brazen petty liar, apparently a troll, said that I am for the United States and merged the most shameful, without proving, do not write to me, it is disgusting
                      54. -2
                        18 October 2020 07: 06
                        Quote: Revival
                        You are a brazen petty liar, apparently a troll, said that I am for the USA and

                        Another colored revolutionary shouts. What really hurts your eyes?
                      55. +2
                        16 October 2020 22: 40
                        Those. when they bring 25 folders of testimonies and evidence of election fraud, and they are flushed down the toilet and not a single criminal case is opened, this is according to the law. When hundreds of thousands of collected signatures are rejected (by whole microdistricts) - this is by law. When signatures are collected for a usurper at workplaces during work, in an orderly manner, this is according to the law, when a person walking a dog is shot from a passing bus with security officials - this is according to the law, when a law on parasites is passed according to which people who have lost their jobs must still pay extra to the state to obey such a law?
                        According to the law, the elections must be declared invalid due to massive falsifications, and none of this would have happened.
                      56. +5
                        16 October 2020 12: 51
                        The authorities, first of all, did not care about these laws.
                    2. +12
                      15 October 2020 14: 23
                      Quote: Anton S
                      now you can blame people, and then say: sorry, I have an exclusive right

                      not just "blame", but - "eliminate the threat to the state and society"

                      A strange question - why do you and you (like you) believe that those who came to the rally represent the interests of society, and not their own and, God forbid, the interests of another state? Most of the population stays at home and silently supports Lukashenko / Putin / Macron, etc. Those. the majority are happy with their lives (if you look at the essence and the root), and the passionate minority is trying to change the course of events. Personally, I will not go to a rally either against the current government or in its support .... although ... no, I will go to a rally in support of the government. Because, like any change of ruler, and God forbid a change of regime, leads to a "redistribution of property and spheres of influence" within the state, and this is not necessary for me, or believe me, for the majority of Russians, as well as for the inhabitants of another country. Again gangster showdowns, drug addicts in the entrances, schoolgirls - ******* (with reduced social responsibility), dismiss my friend, just started cleaning up this dirt, and then again ...

                      Quote: Anton S
                      Everyone has their own understanding of normality, a normal person does not want to feel like a cattle in his country

                      Normal is to be like most. I do not consider myself normal in some issues, while in most issues I do. The concept of normality is one, and all you mean is the interpretation of your desires and concepts about a person. In Heyrops, tolerance towards immigrants and homosexuals is now considered normal, I personally do not consider these things acceptable for myself, am I normal or not? Is it normal for the Berlin police not to accept reports of rape of German women by visiting Arabs?
                      CATTLE IN YOUR COUNTRY - are you talking about Belarusians? Are you a Belarusian? If yes - I'll tell you this, life in Belarus is better than in Russia. In terms of living standards, and closer to the border than Ulyanovsk (for example). The floor of Mother Russia lives on a salary just above the subsistence level. If not - then tell me, what is the reason for you to "drive" to FATHER? And I see only one reason - we will remove Lukashenko today - Putin tomorrow? And this is "regime change", and I wrote about the consequences above.

                      It seems to me my friend - that you are a Cossack ... you will not be from the ranks of globalists ... ARE YOU NOT SOROSOVSKY ARE YOU FATHERING!?!?!?!
                      1. 0
                        15 October 2020 15: 05
                        "Not just" blame ", but -" eliminate the threat to the state and society "" - it means whoever does not agree, you can blame-liquidate.
                        "life in Belarus is better than in Russia. In terms of living standards, and closer to the border than Ulyanovsk (for example). The floor of mother's Russia lives on salary just above the subsistence level." - that is, your message: that you are there in Belarus you are mad with fat, you don’t fall out of hunger, and okay. With all my love for Russia (I say this without irony), there are other countries in the world with which you can compare the standard of living of the Belarusian population.
                        And I have to upset you, I am a Belarusian, not a SOROSOVSKY FOOD. If a person's opinion differs from yours, it does not mean that he works for Soros and is subject to liquidation.
                      2. -1
                        15 October 2020 15: 12
                        Quote: Anton S
                        your message: that you are mad with fat in your Republic of Belarus, you don’t fall out of hunger, and okay. With all my love for Russia (I say this without irony), there are other countries in the world with which the standard of living of the population of Belarus can be compared

                        What are you calling for?
                        In which country, with a socially oriented state, the standard of living of the population is incomparably higher than yours in Belarus?

                        How much does 1 year of study at a university in Belarus cost?

                        What medical services are included in the "list of urgent medical services" provided free of charge in your hospitals?

                        How many loaves of bread can you buy for unemployment benefits?

                        I know little about your everyday life ... tell us.
                      3. +2
                        16 October 2020 09: 32
                        [quote = Kochegarkin] I don't know much about your everyday life ... tell us.
                        A small example from the life of an average Belarusian.
                        Before Kovid, Belarusian sanatoriums were packed with Russian pensioners on vacation. On their retirement they could easily afford this rest and professional treatment.
                        After the operation, I needed rehabilitation, but I, who had worked in production all my life and received a good salary, had to take certificates from doctors, apply to the trade union in order to somehow compensate for the cost of the voucher without a hole in the family budget.
                        THIS IS NORMAL?
                        Is a hard worker poorer than a Russian pensioner in Belarus? In a country that was being built not only by a "strong business executive", but also by millions of workers and peasants.
                        Take Lukashenka to your place with Putin in Krasnaya Polyana and pray for them as much as you like.
                        I hate Lukashenka, I hate punishers, and I am starting to hate the Russians who support them.
                        And there are MILLIONS of people like me.
                      4. -2
                        16 October 2020 11: 51
                        my mother's pension is 10300 rubles, translated into Belarusian ruble - 340,12
                        probably this is a lot, or maybe not enough by your standards, but my mother does not even have enough for a communal apartment in winter ...
                        I have an average per capita income in my family of 8000 rubles - 264,17 Belarusian rubles ...
                        the cost of studying at the university is 91 600, this year, the annual cost ... this is more than my monthly salary, much more ... plus the child needs to live somewhere, that is ...
                        in the list of medical services, the pole includes all services to support life. But complex operations are still for money, some of the prescription drugs are only for money. most, all drugs ...
                        You can buy 50 loaves of bread for unemployment benefits, and you can receive it for no more than 3 months in a row. then you need to find a thread ...

                        Quote: pro100y.belarus
                        having worked in production all his life, receiving a good salary, he was forced to take certificates from doctors, apply to the trade union in order to somehow compensate for the cost of the voucher without a hole in the family budget

                        I don't think about that option at all ...
                        this year I decided to visit my relatives, trains 1000 km one way, on a personal car, with children, no frills, a couple of museums, food on the way - sausages at gas stations, put my budget cancer for a couple of months, I have a good salary for region, but I live on credit ...

                        And the most important thing. I wrote about this above - I AM AGAINST THE CHANGE OF POWER !!! I don’t want to live worse, I understand that I will not live better, but after the state digression, I definitely will not be able to feed my family if I don’t go to crime, and no one is waiting for me there ...

                        Have you thought about what will happen after Lukashenka is replaced by a light-cutlet, or someone else? Will your government apparatus be able to digest the "candy" that the opposition will put on you and resist and not crumble? Be realistic.
                        Most of the countries you look at with envy have made their way to financial stability through long and painful centuries of bloody alterations and showdowns between the business elite, do not agree - take a good look at history. Some countries have received money "for free", who will give Belarus a lot of money at once and without frames? Open your eyes, do not be a naive boy, no one and no one ever does anything for free (I mean the world community). Poland is a subsidized EU country. Germany is restored after the Second World War by American and British bankers who are now filling this same Germany with Arabs. Switzerland - all my life, forgive me ... God, I lay down under everyone, read about the war years, how the Germans and French rested in Switzerland, and these are still flowers. Stop harboring illusions about a happy life with the arrival of smart capitalists.
                      5. +3
                        16 October 2020 12: 41
                        Hmm ...
                        So vividly describe poverty and self-indifference and prays at the same time to those who created such bestial conditions!
                        I have no more questions ...
                      6. +4
                        16 October 2020 13: 52
                        Quote: Revival
                        and prays at the same time to those who created

                        who said i'm praying! ???
                        Well, why is everyone guessing and talking for me! ??? The problem is that you all do not hear and do not listen to your opponents !!!! How can I come to an agreement with you and negotiate when you hear no one except yourself ???????????
                        I did not say that I am for Putin, or those who are now in power ... I do not support the current government, but I am against coups and drastic political changes. How can you not understand elementary things.
                        Well, let's imagine that now we have taken the subsoil from a private owner. He gave you the tower (to the state), fired the workers, and broke contracts with consumers. People sat at home and sit without work, money and food - and this time. To restore the operability of any enterprise requires a large investment. and time. During this time, the consumer will find another supplier, and if he does not find it, it will also close. The equipment will be idle and will need to be restored and repaired to start. And this, again, is money and repairs, and these are new contracts with suppliers, new workers, possibly old ones, but on new terms. And the suppliers also closed, they had no work, they were sharpened for this tower. And this means imported parts - money over the hill, which must be spent on repairs, salaries and restoration. Meanwhile, the workers sitting at home go to hunger riots, and after 2-3 months of your new economic policies, you get strikes and strikes, and Khabarovsk and Bolotnaya will seem like flowers to you.
                        The second option - you nationalized the plant, but the owner does not want to leave, and through simple, and not big manipulations with the salary of workers (do not forget - you have not yet had time to earn money at the plant in order to give out wages) raises the workers to the strike - and what in the result? the same food riot. Refuses to transfer control to new owners - the state, and the security service is put into a state of war, and this is already a civil war (you will not nationalize the plant alone).

                        The tritium option is a change of power through a coup. The new ruler, even Vasya Pupkin, came and drove VVP. He removed all his ministers, deputies, etc. He put new ones, and no one wants to obey the new ones. The heads of the districts (or whatever they have) send the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs on a long erotic journey, they don't want to leave their jobs, they sneeze for salary, they don't go to work for money. Those banks can live without the Central Bank for a couple of months, and then, without repaying the loan, close and go on a long journey, but not an erotic one, but a resort one, in Spain the villa has long been bought. On TV everyone is shouting what Vasya is a dictator, because no one is introducing censorship in the country, and if Vasya does, the prosecutors will refuse to initiate cases, and the judges will refuse to pass the necessary sentences. And what will Vasya do? But what - with a small number of people who support him, radically inclined, to establish a new order. With whom, mind you, some part of the population will not agree - and this is my friend already CIVIL WAR. And to say that I take an example from Ukraine is not worth it. I take an example from the Russian Empire of 1917. Study thoroughly the process of the formation of Soviet power and you will understand that there is some truth in my words.

                        Which of the 3 options do you offer me? I am against all three.
                        Please note that I consider the USSR the best country in the world, the fairest state and I want its full return, even with the Baltic states. But there is one problem - I will not go to support any revolutionary who will offer me anything if I don’t trust him ... but I stopped trusting myself ...


                        Answer me to my question, or suggest your own scenario for the change of power.
                      7. +1
                        16 October 2020 15: 14
                        "He gave you the tower (to the state), fired workers, broke contracts with consumers. People sat at home and sit without work, money ...".

                        What a flawed message, why the same people will not be able to work on the same tower that was returned so that it would not work?
                      8. 0
                        16 October 2020 15: 31
                        Do you have an idea of ​​what an enterprise is? How much internal documentation is constantly circulating within one small organization? Or do you think that everything happens just overnight, by magic? Agreements, name, registration, bank details, contracts, training, certification - all this takes a lot of time.
                        God forbid you have a significant voice in solving economic issues ...
                        You, if he comes to power, notify me ... on hry before death ... I don’t want to live with such specialists.
                      9. +3
                        16 October 2020 15: 34
                        That is, when the owner changes, all factories and enterprises collapse for a year chtoli?
                      10. 0
                        16 October 2020 15: 36
                        with a normal change of ownership, this does not happen, the undertaking does not fall
                        the process lasts more than one month, and sometimes more than one year ...
                        are you surprised by this? Have you never worked for a large enterprise during the change of ownership? normal and not normal change of ownership, I mean ...
                        You pardon what moon fell from? (joke)
                      11. +1
                        16 October 2020 16: 00
                        And what prevents to carry out the process in the same way in this case?
                        Giving owner? Invincible and immortal?
                      12. 0
                        16 October 2020 16: 02
                        you have a change of power ... and not a sale / purchase ... or do you propose, when the power is changed, everyone should live within the law ... I will support this good idea of ​​yours, but those who have power will not agree with you, or have you forgotten the raider seizure of enterprises in the Russian Federation?
                      13. 0
                        16 October 2020 23: 01
                        Quote: Revival
                        "He gave you the tower (to the state), fired workers, broke contracts with consumers. People sat at home and sit without work, money ...".
                        What a flawed message, why the same people will not be able to work on the same tower that was returned so that it would not work?

                        learn history, all this has already happened ..
                        first in 1918 - when "war communism" began due to the collapse of economic ties within the country
                        then in 1992-93 - for the same reasons - the new owners of the Soviet industry lost trade and economic ties
                        both in 1918 and in 1993 - barter reigned .. remember 1993?
                      14. 0
                        16 October 2020 15: 19
                        Yes, according to your logic, the peasants should have remained a "half-person" in the Republic of Ingushetia, and that something else did not work out.
                        No one ever gives anything to anyone so easily
                      15. 0
                        16 October 2020 15: 34
                        Quote: Revival
                        and should have remained a "half-person" in RI

                        don't understand your message?
                        Generally a peasant. until the 27th year, the year of the end of the NEP, and remained a half-person in young Soviet Russia ... only after nationalization and collective farms (damn it, I invented the same word) ... the formation of collective peasant farms and dispossession of kulaks, the peasants gained weight and the right to vote ...
                      16. +2
                        16 October 2020 15: 57
                        And it turns out that you had to sit quietly in the presence of the king in order to remain so forever?
                      17. -2
                        16 October 2020 16: 00
                        at 17, I wouldn't know which one to grab ... both the Tsar and the Duma ... and then there's the provisional government ...
                        the result was October ...
                        But personally you, on whose side would you be in the 17th? on the side of the Sovereign Emperor, the State Duma (it seems that it was called), Kerensky or the AUCPB?
                      18. +2
                        16 October 2020 16: 05
                        On the side of the king?
                        It certainly wouldn't be!
                        Kerensky also passed by, he gave everything to foreigners.
                      19. 0
                        16 October 2020 16: 51
                        and the Bolsheviks destroyed the army ...
                        and they destroyed the empire at first, Ukraine was under the Poles and the Germans, Finland in general left with the ends, like the Baltic states ... the Entente landed on the shores of the Pacific Ocean ...
                        the mess was not frail ...
                        and again, after centuries it is easy to judge, and not knowing the result ... how to make the right choice ...
                      20. -1
                        17 October 2020 13: 15
                        that is, cadets or essiers?
                      21. -1
                        17 October 2020 13: 10
                        Quote: Revival
                        And it turns out that you had to sit quietly in the presence of the king in order to remain so forever?

                        no, it’s a fair amount of nonsense coming out of you.
                        in 1917 there was a gigantic, completely powerless part of the population. who and with whom do you think will be fighting in Russia now. no need for abstractions like "people" and "olegarchs", let's be specific. what strata of the population and why will they begin to overthrow the current government? managers to change from office work to selling on the street with the latest pants like in the 90s? maybe workers? Yes, there were cases when the owner of the enterprise managed to bring the workers to a riot, but I don’t remember that in such disputes the "bloody redhead" took the side of the entrepreneur. maybe the peasants who now have land and equipment? Why should they get involved in an adventure when they already have land and effective means of cultivating it, and even preferences, all from the same "bloody redhead." the worst thing for the bartsuns is that if some groups of the population begin to speak out loudly about their problems, then the vile "bloody redhead" begins to solve these problems request insidiously do not allow to bring to a riot.
                        who stayed there? true proletarians - homeless people and alcoholics? seems to be a good support, but even they are mostly satisfied with the existing way of life request
                        oh yes, there are professional fighters with the redhead ... but this is such an insignificant minority without the support of the masses that there is nothing to talk about request
                      22. -1
                        17 October 2020 12: 51
                        Quote: The Stoker
                        nationalization and kolkhozonization (damn, that's the same word I invented).

                        probably collectivization is simpler and actually about wink
                      23. -1
                        16 October 2020 15: 01
                        And also - a change of power, often accompanied by violence, brutal repression and suppression of those who disagree ... and you, as I understand it, are against cruelty and suppression?
                        so how to be?
                        why do you give the right to some and take away this right from others?
                      24. +1
                        16 October 2020 15: 44
                        I am not taking anything from anyone.
                        I am against hypocrisy.
                        Suppress suppress, but do not complain later, and do not cover up hypocritically.
                        The one who suppressed is right, this cannot be changed in the world.
                        And not so, some beat it right, while others if they answer a priori badly.
                      25. 0
                        16 October 2020 15: 57
                        Are you intentionally not reading my answers or listening to my arguments?
                        The government has the right to suppress riots !!!
                        The people gave her this right.
                        Part of the people, as a rule, a smaller part of the people go out to riots. power protects most of the people.
                        Damn what's going on in your heads
                      26. +2
                        16 October 2020 16: 02
                        The usurper of power who seized power is no longer the "power" to which the people have entrusted something there
                      27. -1
                        16 October 2020 16: 14
                        Quote: Revival
                        seized power, this is not the same "power"

                        yeah ... so we got to an interesting question ...
                        who determines power? who determines its legitimacy? who is the power in the state?
                        well, you, as a true democrat (and this is not sarcasm) say - PEOPLE, and I agree with you.
                        The people, at the plebiscite, determine their future path, giving preference to that. or another candidate.

                        Now we put the question in the pose "siu" - who are the candidates?
                        Whom do we, and Belarusians as well, see in the list of candidates? Dig into these lists, and you will meet anyone there - businessmen, heads of large farms, bloggers, forgive me ... God ... these ... like them .. SOBCHAK, in short, business ambuts ... but who are you not there you will see - rightly ... You personally, and you in general, will not meet a representative of the people, but in this sense, I refer to the people as workers and peasants. None of the candidates is a representative of the people ... that's why they vote for Lukashenko and for Putin, not because they are bad, because the rest (the correct word is cut out by the auto-moderator - let's put it another way - the waste of mammals) ... I believe in 80% But father, and 146% of GDP, I am from the people, I vote like this ...
                        Well, the rest, the rest of the answers to your promises, I gave earlier, and about the usurpation of power not to the rulers of states. The right questions are - what was the method of initial capital accumulation of modern businessmen ...
                        I know one here ... I slaughtered a herd of 400 heads in 2 nights ... as Borka said, "take the power as much as you want," so they took it ... there was a collective farm and there is none ... in 2 nights the herd was cut out, and for the car park was sold out for a week ...
                        I can also tell you about the plant, for how much it was handed over for scrap ...
                        and these are bitter examples of the change of power ...
                      28. 0
                        16 October 2020 18: 07
                        "I know one here ... I slaughtered a herd of 400 heads in 2 nights ... as Borka said," take the power as much as you want, "so they took it ... there was a collective farm and there is none ... in 2 nights the herd was slaughtered, and the car park was sold out in a week ...
                        about the plant I can tell you how much it was handed over for scrap ... ".

                        Yes, and the highest measure that disappeared for such actions?
                      29. -1
                        17 October 2020 13: 54
                        Quote: The Stoker
                        You, as a true democrat (and this is not sarcasm) say - PEOPLE, and I agree with you.
                        The people, at the plebiscite, determine their future path, giving preference to that. or another candidate.

                        I'll confuse you a little, but how do you define a PEOPLE or not a PEOPLE? if the power is not the people? what is it, "the dragon is dead, long live the new dragon!"?
                        or maybe in monetary terms? a lot of money - not a PEOPLE, little money - a PEOPLE?
                        there is a seller and there is a buyer, which of them is a PEOPLE? their interests are pretty different ...
                        Quote: The Stoker
                        Whom do we, and Belarusians as well, see in the list of candidates? Dig into these lists, and you will meet anyone there - businessmen, heads of large farms, bloggers, forgive me ... God ... these ... like them .. SOBCHAK in short, business ambutsmen ... but who are you not there you will see - rightly ... You personally, and you in general, will not meet a representative of the people, but in this sense, I refer to the people as workers and peasants.

                        uuu ... you are climbing into a terrible swamp, friend! Yes
                        what are elections? in theory, this is when the best is chosen from several candidates. and who is the best? the cleverest? the most economic? the most competent? of course not! the winner is the one with the best campaign headquarters. whose headquarters studied better at the institute, is better acquainted with conducting PR campaigns, is better acquainted with mass management and public speaking, he will win. You can take offense as much as you like that we are a herd, but in fact, the management of the PEOPLE has long been put on a scientific basis. all this skill and knowledge costs a lot of money, and big money is not for peasants and workers request
                        at the same time, the vile "bloody redhead" is again committing deceit and launching the state program for training managers "leaders of Russia." kind of free, and there is no qualification ... but are there many peasants and workers there? cheto not very much. and why? will you go to this program? quit your job for this? I asked myself this question and I don't really want to. I should be more comfortable as a programmer ...
                        that's how it comes out request
                        By the way, let's say a peasant or a worker enters this program, successfully wins competitions and becomes one of the leaders of Russia. is he already in power, is he still a PEOPLE or no longer? I'm not just asking. this was the problem the Bolsheviks had with the proletarians. they taught the workers, they became educated, passed from the proletariat to the stratum of the working intelligentsia and said, "You know, everything seems to be fine with us, you, with this equality of yours, have somehow become universal without me. I am now better with the Socialist-Revolutionaries. Their ideas are for me. somehow closer "
                      30. -1
                        17 October 2020 13: 17
                        Quote: Revival
                        The usurper of power who seized power is no longer the "power" to which the people have entrusted something there

                        hmmm ... are you talking about Khrushchev? wassat
                      31. +2
                        17 October 2020 14: 36
                        And what about Khrushchev's sacred cow?
                        The pest is mostly
                      32. 0
                        17 October 2020 14: 39
                        Quote: Revival
                        The pest is mostly

                        agree soldier
                      33. 0
                        16 October 2020 13: 20
                        Quote: The Stoker
                        I AM AGAINST THE CHANGE OF POWER !!!

                        Well, don't change it! LIVE AS YOU WANT!
                        Just do not meddle with your charter in a strange monastery.
                        And you don't need to tell me how they live in Poland. In Grodno, all rich people are somehow connected with Poland, more than one big business has been built on smuggling, whole cottage villages have grown, and many residents of Western Belarus work there and bring money from there. When the Poles were given visa-free travel, they went here in droves and developed a tourism business. So I know firsthand how people live in Poland.
                        They live RICHER and FREERER than us.
                        And I, unlike you, see it not on TV, but LIVE.
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                      35. 0
                        16 October 2020 15: 46
                        is building !?
                        Sure?
                      36. -1
                        16 October 2020 16: 27
                        Pancake!!! I'm already starting to boil from you ...
                        what a stubborn opponent you got ... but it's good, the truth is born in the dispute ... sorry you don't hear everything ...
                        but this is also fixable ... no - permissible
                        Quote: Revival
                        is building !?


                        but to this question I cannot answer you unambiguously and monosyllabically.
                        For me, it builds, some kind of crap, but builds ... many large companies with a controlling stake in the state, and not just a controlling one, even with a blocking control, but these enterprises have long been privatized. And they are already working and building something ...
                        on the other hand, enterprises are being cut. and in Moscow, more than 12% of the population of the Russian Federation already lives, and even more work ... in general, no one thinks that this is an ideal target ...
                        The Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Defense receive good salaries ... although the deputies are not in comparison higher, and the life-long right to a high pension ...
                        on the other hand, not to interfere in the internal microeconomic process - regulation of incomes of the working population, adjusting pricing policy - the path to hunger riots ...

                        so it builds - but such a dull substance turns out. but I have already said this. and you asked again
                      37. 0
                        16 October 2020 18: 11
                        The main thing is not how they are called state enterprises or not state, the main thing is that the profit does not go into one pocket of the private trader, and the cover of the state name is empty
                      38. 0
                        17 October 2020 14: 18
                        Quote: The Stoker
                        and in Moscow, more than 12% of the population of the Russian Federation already lives, and even more work ... in general, no one thinks that this is an ideal target ...

                        excuse me for being meticulous, but where can this 12% be? in the town where the plant was sold? Or on a collective farm where the herd was cut out in 2 days? in my opinion it is logical that people are there where there is something to do and there is work. request do you think it is so easy to organize the distribution of the population? Won China has built entire cities as part of the resettlement program, so what? there are empty cities with complete infrastructure, and people cannot be ripped off the coast. even in the PRC. sit on 3 square meters per person in Hong Kong because there is warmth and the sea.
                      39. +4
                        16 October 2020 17: 05
                        [quote = Kochegarkin] The Republic of Bashkortostan will not live better after you demolish Old Man ... he won’t ... even hit the wall ... how you don’t want to understand basic things .... you cannot quickly build the best by breaking the good .. The Russian Federation has been building for 30 years what was destroyed 40 years ago, and it will not work even 1/4 of what was in the RSFSR under the USSR
                        You already zadolbali your USSR. Already modern people have NO nostalgia about the USSR. The train left. A new generation has grown up, which did not know the decaying empire with old senile people.
                        For this generation, Lukashenka is a collective farm mastodon, out of his mind, every day giving out pearls from which ears wither, a rude, uncouth boor and a sadist. Brezhnev is a cutie in his background.
                        Lukashenka's time is over, the nation has grown and requires an appropriate politician.
                        Understand - Lukashenka spit on people, spit on everything and everyone. He needs POWER, whatever the cost. And in this maniacal desire of his, he will plunge the country into an abyss even greater than any new president.
                        And you are very much mistaken that Lukashenka is a pro-Russian politician. And if he remains in power, you will be convinced of this very soon.
                      40. 0
                        16 October 2020 23: 10
                        Quote: pro100y.belarus
                        NO already in modern people nostalgia about the USSR.

                        Quote: pro100y.belarus
                        contact a trade union to somehow compensate for the cost tours without a hole in the family budget.
                        THIS IS NORMAL?
                        -no nostalgia, but you turned to absolutely SOVIET trade union. The capitalist union would give you .... but nifiga he would not give you !!!!! not a penny !!!!
                        It is only in the Republic of Belarus that you can free of charge - that is, you can get a ticket for treatment from the trade union for free ...
                      41. 0
                        17 October 2020 14: 08
                        Quote: your1970
                        -No nostalgia, but you applied to an absolutely SOVIET union.

                        no, it's not him. I wrote it from the last shift. I didn't just say it wink
                      42. 0
                        17 October 2020 14: 10
                        blah blah blah, they're children ... request
                      43. 0
                        17 October 2020 14: 01
                        Quote: pro100y.belarus
                        Well, don't change it! LIVE AS YOU WANT!
                        Just do not meddle with your charter in a strange monastery.

                        oh how! that is, we do not climb? and the Poles and Lithuanians to climb on the fact that a bunch of shny lichvinov in Belarus said so? and the rest do not care. they have cantrabass there and let everyone else die at least ...
                        bummer guys! but you can be like Ukrainians and your Tikhanovskaya there, since you like it there. all is good! you already have a prezik there laughing
                      44. -3
                        16 October 2020 19: 21
                        Quote: The Stoker
                        I AM AGAINST THE CHANGE OF POWER !!! I don’t want to live worse, I understand that I’ll not live better, but after the state digression, I definitely will not be able to feed my family if I don’t go to crime, and no one is waiting for me there ...

                        Have you thought about what will happen after Lukashenka is replaced by a light-cutlet, or someone else?

                        Speak everything right, but it's all useless: these near-minded people need to crack with their BARNEL so that it comes to light that THEY are not the first beautiful and clever overthrowers, but there are neighbors - LOOK and UNDERSTAND - what kind of pu they got after their "victory. them, that he not only will not have help from the trade union (is that a beast like this in the CIS?) and certificates from doctors, but also a decent salary, as well as work.

                        Overthrew the hated "thief" dictator, the youth of the Maidan in Moldova in 2009, achieved a victory and ... in full force went to the West, to spread their legs and wash the dust, because the NE thieves they brought, not only plundered everything, but also deprived them of the slightest opportunity to live and work / earn HOME. A THIRD of the population REMOVED from the Motherland and continues to flee.

                        Well, let them crash too.
                      45. +1
                        16 October 2020 23: 26
                        Look at the results of the Armenian Revolution. Within a year, the growth of GDP and household income.
                      46. +2
                        16 October 2020 23: 17
                        Maybe I will answer you about the crappy business executive who did not allow the Belarusian economy to collapse. The entire Belarusian economic miracle rested on duty-free trade in Russian oil, money from which, along with money from Belaruskali, was successfully consumed, while the industry was slowly bent over as it worked for the Russian market, was under sanctions and could not have close cooperation with world giants because, that state property in Russia at this time was developing its import substitution. And when Russia introduced the tax maneuver, our strategist twirled his mustache, but nothing can be done about it. Harvesters are not needed by anyone, tractors have also ceased to be cheap. Collective farms need to be fed, and these are bottomless holes. The multi-vector approach is no longer saving. For example, about harvesters: under the USSR, they were produced 20 a year now 000 pieces. Belarus' GDP is now at the 200 level.
                      47. +1
                        16 October 2020 22: 54
                        Quote: pro100y.belarus
                        receiving a good salary, had to take certificates from doctors, contact a trade union, in order to somehow compensate for the cost of the tour without a hole in the family budget.
                        -and you are so nefigi did not understand ... you have a reserve of the USSR -the union helped you....
                      48. +3
                        15 October 2020 16: 58
                        Quote: Anton S
                        And I have to upset you, I am a Belarusian, not a SOROSOV FOOD.

                        That is, you save him money by working for him for free.
                      49. +2
                        16 October 2020 01: 34
                        So you Anton S. gave yourself away !!! All your complexes from fierce, petty, primitive ENVY. You and others like you are looking around, constantly comparing, drooling like a river - VON Tama is better, richer, more satisfying, prettier ... And they try to "dump" there at the first opportunity to suck on the trough. How many times have I heard mothers boast to each other: Mine lives in England ... And mine has already got a job in America (or, as an option, in Germany) Was in Germany and saw these "settled" as cleaners, clerks, dishwashers, prostitutes. And they were workers, teachers, employees, not taking out a pot from under the idiots with Alzheimer's.
                      50. -2
                        17 October 2020 12: 42
                        Quote: Anton S
                        And I have to upset you, I am a Belarusian, not a SOROSOV FOOD.

                        What is it like? in Belarus there are two groups, the main part of the population that does not bustle, supports Lukashenka or are neutral towards him, and the second group, as you put it, "Soros fosterlings" who are wrapped in Natsik flags, bustle. something I have not heard about some third force ...
                      51. +2
                        17 October 2020 14: 16
                        [/ Quote]
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        [quote = Anton S] And I have to upset you, I am Belarusian, not SOROSOVSKY FOOD.

                        What is it like? in Belarus there are two groups, the main part of the population that does not bustle, supports Lukashenka or are neutral towards him, and the second group, as you put it, "Soros fosterlings" who are wrapped in Natsik flags, bustle. something I have not heard about some third force ...

                        The main part is for Lukashenko)) stay in your fictional world. The main part is for Belarus without Lukashenko. It is difficult for some commentators to grasp this, but the reality is, alas.
                      52. -3
                        17 October 2020 14: 32
                        facts, only facts. during the peak period, we managed to pull out about 100k to protests throughout the country. that's less than 10% of the population. in Minsk, about 30-40 thousand won at the peak were collected. there is a photo from the opposition, you can see there. They certainly try to talk about 500k, but to understand that they tryndyat you need to see 50k people in one place at least once. I have no problem with that. and all of them. won the Zenith arena for 64 thousand.
                        Luka is not really a friend to us, Russia, but this white-red-white bastard is like enemies to us and to the entire Russian people, that is, the Maloros and the Great Russians.
                      53. +2
                        17 October 2020 14: 35
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        facts, only facts. during the peak period, we managed to pull out about 100k to protests throughout the country. that's less than 10% of the population. in Minsk, about 30-40 thousand won at the peak were collected. there is a photo from the opposition, you can see there. They certainly try to talk about 500k, but to understand that they tryndyat you need to see 50k people in one place at least once. I have no problem with that. and all of them. won the Zenith arena for 64 thousand.
                        Luka is not really a friend to us, Russia, but this white-red-white bastard is like enemies to us and to the entire Russian people, that is, the Maloros and the Great Russians.

                        See above: stay in your made-up world
                      54. -2
                        17 October 2020 14: 38
                        it will be embarrassing if your world is invented, and not mine bully
                      55. 0
                        17 October 2020 14: 43
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        it will be embarrassing if your world is invented, and not mine bully

                        We will see
                      56. +6
                        16 October 2020 12: 25
                        “Most of the population sits at home and silently supports Lukashenko / Putin / Macron, etc. In other words, the majority are satisfied with their lives.
                        The floor of Mother Russia lives on a salary just above the subsistence level. "

                        Is everything OK? With adequacy ..
                        Do you really think that when "Mother's sex in Russia lives on a salary just above the subsistence level," nothing needs to be changed in the country?
                        Are you really ready to kiss the rulers' hands for a minimum of subsistence?
                        Are you not a peasant from Tsarist Russia? If so, then you can simply not write to me, I simply have nothing to discuss with such a servile approach.
                      57. -1
                        16 October 2020 16: 45
                        Quote: Revival
                        do not need to change anything in the country?

                        Do you know how to carry out a change of power without a revolution in modern Russia?
                        I will kiss your feet if you can tell me how you can change the regime without money, otherwise I will personally take the revolver in my hands and ..... no, I will not ... I am not bloodthirsty ...
                        Come on, you are here pouring "slavery" on everyone, but how do you differ from the majority - a businessman? So then you are from the opposite camp to me, and then I will not understand what to discuss with you. The pensioner is his own fault, in 91 it was necessary to keep the USSR, and in 85 Gorbachev not to support. Military - it's a sin for the military to complain. A simple hard worker - but tell me, hard worker, what have you done useful for your homeland, besides idle talk? I went to the polls, wrote my wishes to the deputy, handed over the drug dealer to the cops, bought food for the pensioner's grandmother during the quarantine period? ... excuse me, that sounded more beautiful ...
                        and even knowing half of your answers to these questions, I will all repeat the question - WHAT DID YOU DO FOR THE REVOLUTION?
                        It is necessary to change in the country, it is necessary ... everything needs to be changed ... the electoral system must be changed ... the party system must be changed ... the economic system must be changed .... everything must be changed
                        there are enough smart people in all these areas who can painlessly rebuild everything, but who will give them. Power in modern Russia belongs to business. Business without a fight will give you and me nothing. Fights are blood and death - Are you ready to lay down your head in the battle for a brighter future? Will you find a couple of thousand more ideological ones? the same ... where to find them ... everyone is happy with their swamp ...
                        by the way, you will need ideological ones, take me ... I'll grab a couple more ...
                        only one thing - I have to believe you, but it's hard to arrange ...

                        so - talk, do not roll bags (again, the auto-moderator does not skip the desired text)))
                    3. 0
                      15 October 2020 15: 06
                      Quote: Anton S
                      "The law, representatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other structures involved in the protection of law and order are granted the right, mind you - the exclusive right. To violence and the use of weapons" - ie. now you can blame people, and then say: excuse me, I have an exclusive right?
                      "A normal person is busy raising children (and if they are not there, decides whether to appear), building a house, planting a tree, hunting a mammoth (earning money for food), he has no time to" overthrow an unwanted dictator. "- Everyone has their own understanding of normality, normal a person does not want to feel like a cattle in his country.

                      If you feel like a cattle, maybe this is a natural feeling?
                      Man sounds proudly. Better to die standing than live on your knees. I live like this and don't feel like a cattle. And anyone in the forehead charge, regardless of his position and social status, if he tries to oppress me.
                      1. +2
                        15 October 2020 18: 01
                        Here and krants will come, because "the government has the right to violence."
                      2. +1
                        17 October 2020 15: 19
                        Quote: Bearded
                        Better to die standing than live on your knees. I live like this and don't feel like cattle.

                        pff .. and those who are on their knees really count? there "non-workers" call themselves wassat Well, only here there are a few olegarchs, a little banks and loans, and over there Poland, work and lords, well, because it’s supposed to treat them like that .. but then they are non-workers! wassat
                  4. -1
                    15 October 2020 13: 14
                    And so they have the right to shoot the disgruntled !?
                    Just shoot and that's it, just in case !?
                    Is it legitimate or not "well, this is the second question" !!!?
                    1. +1
                      15 October 2020 15: 09
                      Quote: Revival
                      And so they have the right to shoot the disgruntled !?
                      Just shoot and that's it, just in case !?
                      Is it legitimate or not "well, this is the second question" !!!?

                      And you go to the USA and look at the police there. He put his hand in his pocket - he got a bullet in the forehead, or even for nothing. And if the stone is Kinel, the whole family will be shot.
                      1. +1
                        15 October 2020 15: 20
                        Quote: Bearded
                        And you go to the USA and look at the police there.

                        double feeling from your comment ...

                        on the one hand, yes. look at the countries that you all use as an example ...
                        but on the other hand, one should not be equal to someone, one must understand that everything is good. good in moderation, but bad - immensely bad.

                        I justified the actions of the authorities in the comments above, but I always do not like the "comparison" ...

                        zs - but your comment anyway "plusanul"))
                        (don't hit hard)
                      2. +3
                        15 October 2020 16: 08
                        Yeah, the fairy tale about the USA is outdated, we've seen enough this year on the cruelly kneeling, etc., change the record.
                        And yes, in the USA, weapons can be legal in anyone's pocket, so when we get to such conditions then you will blame the USA
                      3. +2
                        15 October 2020 17: 00
                        Quote: Revival
                        have seen enough this year at

                        disassembly of the local elites. When they finish dividing power, then all these "standing" will end.
                      4. 0
                        16 October 2020 00: 14
                        So again, not when and then and so on. And everyone has already seen, so your argument flies by ...
                        I repeat again !! In the United States, weapons can be legal in anyone's pocket, so when we get to such conditions, then you will blame the United States.
                        Otherwise, your argument is inadequate to the situation in principle.
                        So clearer?
                      5. 0
                        16 October 2020 06: 26
                        Quote: Revival
                        So again, not when and then and so on. And everyone has already seen, so your argument flies by ...

                        That is, the fact that for the first time in unknown years in the United States they are seriously sharing power for you?
                        Quote: Revival
                        in the united states, weapons can be legal in anyone's pocket

                        not in all states. So your argument is inadequate to the situation in principle.
                      6. +5
                        16 October 2020 12: 49
                        Can you write something meaningful or are you taking the topic away?
                        When we have all the conditions as in the usa, then you will refer to the usa.
                        And then let's also refer to the fact that in Africa people wear T-shirts all year round, so they say we need ...
                      7. 0
                        16 October 2020 15: 09
                        Quote: Revival
                        Can you write something meaningful or are you taking the topic away?

                        And you, except for the slogans obsolete 30 years ago, are not observed.
                        Quote: Revival
                        When we have all the conditions like in the usa

                        That is, it is impossible to object.
                      8. +3
                        16 October 2020 15: 26
                        What is the objection that you are comparing different countries with different conditions, without considering the differences?
                        I do not care what is there and how in the USA.
                      9. -1
                        16 October 2020 16: 26
                        Quote: Revival
                        What is the objection that you are comparing different countries with different conditions, without considering the differences

                        Which ones? You want democracy, but they are a model for all democrats.
                      10. 0
                        16 October 2020 18: 08
                        I really don't know for whom the model is, and even direct in everything, in everything, for me there is
                      11. -1
                        16 October 2020 20: 16
                        Quote: Revival
                        no for me

                        So why are you tearing up your throat for her?
                      12. +1
                        16 October 2020 22: 09
                        Your lies!
                        Give my comment where I tear your throat for the United States!
                        Waiting for
                      13. -1
                        17 October 2020 07: 26
                        Quote: Revival
                        where i tear my throat for the usa

                        And you do not know who is behind each "color revolution"?
                      14. +1
                        17 October 2020 12: 21
                        Clear.
                        You lied about me based on your conjectures
                      15. -1
                        17 October 2020 13: 07
                        Quote: Revival
                        Clear.
                        You

                        wrote an inconvenient truth for a true revolutionary.
                      16. +1
                        17 October 2020 14: 28
                        You are just a Liar, you did not give evidence of my throat-tearing for the United States.
                        Go away .. you can no longer write to me, I avoid communication with liars
                      17. -1
                        17 October 2020 18: 00
                        Quote: Revival
                        You are just a Liar

                        You are just a liar who tears your throat for the United States, but at the same time disguises yourself as a "patriot" of Belarus.
                        Quote: Revival
                        Go away ..

                        Nobody keeps you here.
                      18. +1
                        15 October 2020 23: 33
                        Quote: Revival
                        seen enough this year on the brutally kneeling

                        Didn't want to walk the streets of the United States at night?
                      19. +1
                        16 October 2020 00: 41
                        Are you trying to divert the discussion aside with your commentary on the topic of the question?
                        Is there anything to object to?
                        No, apparently.
                        My answer is symmetrical, do you like oat milk?
                        Until..
                    2. +1
                      16 October 2020 08: 59
                      Quote: Revival
                      And so they were given the right to shoot dissatisfied!?

                      belay Not "dissatisfied", but BREAKERS OF THE LAW (does the difference reach?): Those who throw to Molotov, yes, shoot.
                      Those who stopped the total. transport-fine, plant (if the ambulance did not have time).

                      And yes, in 2 months, already ... 3 thousand ADMINISTRATIVE cases (fines) and a total of 275 criminal cases (neapadenia, weapons, etc.)
                      1. +3
                        16 October 2020 12: 51
                        But why waste time on trifles, shoot at any violation of the law, lit a cigarette in the wrong place, get a bullet, well, a small inflection is just
                  5. -5
                    15 October 2020 13: 16
                    Do you justify the Gestapo and the SS?
                    The Germans did not have the right to be dissatisfied with the fascists, are they the legitimate authority?
                    1. +4
                      15 October 2020 14: 45
                      Quote: Revival
                      Do you justify the Gestapo and the SS?

                      That is, you put the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Belarus on a par with the Nazis? First, you will study the definition of the word "fascism" ...

                      and - YES, I believe that law enforcement agencies have the right to suppress rallies against the current government by all available means, otherwise anarchy will ensue in the state (unless, of course, you think that ANARCHY IS THE MOTHER OF ORDER)
                      The state is the form of management of territories and population chosen by society. The basis of any state is the law, this state, I'm not talking about the fundamental foundations, they are already clear to everyone. So - the law and its observance, put the organization of society one step higher than the crowd. Even in a pack of wolves, there are no written rules.
                      What a state. by means of separately identified and specially trained people defends itself - speaks of the strength of the state.
                      And if it were not for the "37th" year in the USSR, it is not a fact that today, instead of "democracy", there would not be "fascism as an ideal form of government." History does not tolerate the subjunctive mood, but at one time the fight against "English" spies in Russia was carried out much tougher than today BATKA "plays with the opposition." And the fact that Alexander Grigorievich is "playing", I can clearly see, in his place I would still have shot a couple of especially zealous ones. And he then lets go of the Svetka-cutlet abroad, then he goes to the convicts in the pre-trial detention center, a booth, by God.
                      You don’t want to understand that. man is by nature greedy, stupid and lazy. In order for a person to start working, he must be forced, the method of compulsion has long been known - hunger. But with the development of civilization, they decided to abandon the effective means - hunger, and apply a less effective but more humane - envy. Not at all has been affected lately. We have to resort to more effective, hunger, cudgel, stick, and sometimes carrot.
                      Did you manage the team? Which methods are more effective? Individually or in different variations?
                      Here I am about the same ...
                      1. -1
                        15 October 2020 15: 57
                        The state, if it wants to be called such, has no right to break the law under any circumstances !!!
                        And you are for it to have the right, they say, when necessary! This is terror! Terror is illegal
                      2. +5
                        15 October 2020 16: 19
                        When did they break the law? When did you use a weapon against a lawbreaker? So, according to the law, it is they, and the state in their person, to use weapons in the event ... and there is a long list.
                        Are you a lawyer? A lawyer with knowledge of the laws of the Republic of Belarus? Do you have sufficient evidence base to allow you to bring charges in any instance?
                        I think, or rather - I'm sure you don't, otherwise you wouldn't have written here in the comments, but would have earned money on Lukashenka's "blunders" by filing lawsuits in international courts ... to which the Republic of Belarus (international courts) - did not care, and is doing the right thing , and it is time for the Russian Federation to spit on the human rights court and similar instances from the same height, and also to introduce censorship and an article for parasitism ... as in Belarus
                      3. +1
                        15 October 2020 16: 21
                        Use weapons when going to a rally !?
                        As long as there is no violent action, this is illegal!
                        Or is it just law for you to make an employee shoot for going to a rally ?!
                      4. +3
                        15 October 2020 16: 23
                        That is, according to you, for any violator of the law, you can immediately use a weapon, went to piss in a public place and get a bullet?
                      5. 0
                        15 October 2020 23: 38
                        Please link to a clear video. It will be more convincing.
                      6. -2
                        16 October 2020 00: 49
                        If this is you for me, then the drain is protected, if not, then I'm sorry to bother you
                      7. +3
                        16 October 2020 13: 11
                        And what about the usurpation of power? Falsification of elections is the gravest crime. The people endured, endured, for decades they went to the “Lukashenka’s Election”, but obviously tired. People want change.
                      8. +1
                        15 October 2020 16: 04
                        You don’t pretend that you didn’t understand that I’m not talking about fascism, but about your approach, that it’s legitimate to say everything that the government does by default, even though it’s against what is written in the law, they say it’s time to understand this. This is what terror is, and terror is always illegal, especially if it is not prescribed by law.
                      9. +2
                        15 October 2020 19: 11
                        Quote: The Stoker
                        Quote: Revival
                        Do you justify the Gestapo and the SS?

                        That is, you put the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Belarus on a par with the Nazis? First, you will study the definition of the word "fascism" ...

                        and - YES, I believe that law enforcement agencies have the right to suppress rallies against the current government by all available means, otherwise anarchy will ensue in the state (unless, of course, you think that ANARCHY IS THE MOTHER OF ORDER)
                        The state is the form of management of territories and population chosen by society. The basis of any state is the law, this state, I'm not talking about the fundamental foundations, they are already clear to everyone. So - the law and its observance, put the organization of society one step higher than the crowd. Even in a pack of wolves, there are no written rules.
                        What a state. by means of separately identified and specially trained people defends itself - speaks of the strength of the state.
                        And if it were not for the "37th" year in the USSR, it is not a fact that today, instead of "democracy", there would not be "fascism as an ideal form of government." History does not tolerate the subjunctive mood, but at one time the fight against "English" spies in Russia was carried out much tougher than today BATKA "plays with the opposition." And the fact that Alexander Grigorievich is "playing", I can clearly see, in his place I would still have shot a couple of especially zealous ones. And he then lets go of the Svetka-cutlet abroad, then he goes to the convicts in the pre-trial detention center, a booth, by God.
                        You don’t want to understand that. man is by nature greedy, stupid and lazy. In order for a person to start working, he must be forced, the method of compulsion has long been known - hunger. But with the development of civilization, they decided to abandon the effective means - hunger, and apply a less effective but more humane - envy. Not at all has been affected lately. We have to resort to more effective, hunger, cudgel, stick, and sometimes carrot.
                        Did you manage the team? Which methods are more effective? Individually or in different variations?
                        Here I am about the same ...

                        Delirium of a stoned man. The law does not work in Belarus! Thousands of people have been beaten, not a single criminal case has been opened. The prosecutor's office sees no violations. In my family, my wife is already seething, I can barely hold back, I myself have never gone anywhere to a demonstration, I tried to be neutral, but soon I will also go out with everyone. Seeing this chaos on the street from the authorities and the police. In Belarus, she, the police, is already called the Gestapo. So there is nothing to be surprised at by the word of the Gestapo. Have people like you, your favorite hero -gos. Soloviev with his talk show. Therefore, you have your own understanding of events in Belarus. And for the majority of Belarusians, he is no longer the president, no matter how hard he tries to puff. Inadequate. And yes, I do not get money from Soros and I don’t like Nekhta, but I don’t like Lukashenka and his power anymore. Is this clear. If you will, please, find the time and go to www.tut.by. See what is really in Belarus. Although this will not help you, rinse everything with stamps.
                      10. -2
                        16 October 2020 08: 27
                        I'll tell you this - I have already gone through the 90s in the Russian Federation, you will have to ...
                        good luck .... to you, in this not an easy matter, then just do not complain - "how good it was for you. and we didn’t value fools."
                      11. +4
                        16 October 2020 11: 53
                        Quote: The Stoker
                        I'll tell you this - I have already gone through the 90s in the Russian Federation, you will have to ...
                        good luck .... to you, in this not an easy matter, then just do not complain - "how good it was for you. and we didn’t value fools."

                        Actually, I am 62 years old and I lived through 90 years together with you. I remember coupons and everything else. He worked as a mechanic on the construction of gas pipelines at Kazymtruboprovodstroy, Beloyarskiy, Khanty-Mansiysk. ed. Therefore, I think after the current sultanate and the absolute, uncontrolled, boorish power in Belarus will not be worse.
                      12. -1
                        16 October 2020 14: 03
                        Oh well...
                        Your words, yes to God in the ears ...
                      13. -4
                        16 October 2020 01: 12
                        Quote: The Stoker
                        That is, you put the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Belarus on a par with the Nazis?

                        They have already surpassed them.
                  6. +6
                    15 October 2020 21: 39
                    Quote: The Stoker
                    Protesters are trying to overthrow the government on not quite legal grounds

                    You have no idea how much you are right. In the republic, such a situation, all actions of the authorities are a priori legal, that does not come from the authorities, it is illegal, including all elements of civil society.
                    If on business, then everything was started before the elections. Signatures for the nomination of the Arab League were collected at enterprises by the authorities (this is a witness), at the same time, monstrously stupid provocations were arranged for the appointing. It was very funny when the signatures for Tsepkalo were recognized as invalid, but there were no questions to other candidates, whose names even now are known by 100 people throughout the republic (I am exaggerating, but I really do not know their names or those who know their names). How to believe in elections when members of the electoral committee at all levels were nominated by the authorities? Perhaps this is normal, but it is certainly not normal when observers are appointed by the same authority. Sense then from observers?
                    For the sake of objectivity, I must say that I myself do not fully understand the direction of the authorities' actions. Here's an example - why immediately dispose of ballots when you could just print with a margin and mark where you need to.
                    Quote: The Stoker
                    A normal person is busy raising children (and if they are not there, he decides whether to appear), building a house, planting a tree, hunting a mammoth (earning money for food), he has no time to "overthrow an unwanted dictator."

                    No questions. But here is a completely different conversation. Those who come out with protests discredit the very idea.
                    1. +1
                      16 October 2020 00: 45
                      Good night!
                      Could you expand your thought, otherwise two hours of commentary come into dissonance.
                      It turns out there are violations, that is, a priori it is necessary / possible to leave, but they do not come out like that?
                      But as?
                      PS
                      Although I also think that they do not come out so, but the nuances are still possible
                      1. +1
                        16 October 2020 18: 01
                        My opinion. There is no identity between power and legality. The very actions of the ruler can be assessed for legality, and not be an unconditional law. Change of power legally first of all, it needs it to maintain its legitimacy.
                        Protests are meaningless because they are an expression of their disagreement on any issue of those who come to them, but in this case there are elections. And if the authorities ignored the votes in the elections, then they are all the more not interested in the opinion of those who protested.
                        Personally, I consider rallies as an instrument of informing the government about what worries the protesters in the political life of the country and nothing more.
                      2. +1
                        17 October 2020 15: 48
                        Quote: MyVrach
                        The change of power in a legal way is first of all necessary for it to maintain its legitimacy.

                        what for? in the sense of show mas go is he? olegarchs should change their henchmen once every, for example, 5 years so that what? so that people believe that something decides? laughing
                      3. +1
                        17 October 2020 18: 43
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        what for? in the sense of show mas go is he? olegarchs should change their henchmen once every, for example, 5 years so that what? so that people believe that something decides? laughing

                        Naturally. I'll say it very primitively. The legitimacy of the elected government is selectivity, hereditary power is heredity, dictatorship is a dictatorship based on force, etc., etc.
                        And don't go to sky-high peaks, at least not with my mind wassat
                        And even more so to discuss the works of economist Mark Satterthwaite and philosopher Alan Gibbard about the fact that if the process is not dictatorial, then there is the possibility of manipulation. Moreover, I have not even read them.
                    2. +1
                      16 October 2020 01: 13
                      Quote: MyVrach
                      Here's an example - why immediately dispose of ballots when you could just print with a margin and mark where you need to.

                      They should be stored for six months.
                  7. -6
                    16 October 2020 01: 22
                    Kochegarkin - respect. I said correctly, only now I am afraid and even sure that logic and facts will not reach the democrats. There is a dam or blockage in the brain ...
                3. -3
                  19 October 2020 22: 46
                  little shot. it was necessary through one. Americans do not chick: raised his hand to a policeman, get a bullet. And from thirty meters from a pistol? ... Well done policeman. Nefig to look at idiots. Retain and ... Clean barns. Belarusian milk is in great demand.
              4. -1
                15 October 2020 12: 12
                Quote: Olgovich
                And millions of voters stand for Lukashenka, and these silent FOR have the RIGHT to vote no less than those who shout AGAINST.

                There was no need to falsify the results, to draw 85%, in which even those who voted FOR do not believe. I would draw 60 percent and everything would be quiet. Even the 2nd round would have been the best decision, in principle, my father could have won it honestly, because his opponents were frankly weak, it was very stupid to plant them, with this he personally strengthened their positions. Now, thanks to the cops, he has lost the support that he had and any move that he makes leads to a loss of position, and a legal dispute in a pre-trial detention center is an unprecedented masterpiece. I don’t undertake to predict what will happen next, but clearly nothing good. Grigorich in zugzwang.
                1. 0
                  15 October 2020 12: 19
                  I would not have won either the first or the second. They voted not for Tikhanovskaya, but against Lukashenka.
                2. -1
                  15 October 2020 13: 10
                  Quote: AK1972
                  There was no need to falsify the results, draw yourself 85%,

                  By whom installed and PROVED falsifications?

                  ANYONE and NOTHING: neither the courts, nor the CEC, nor the Parliament, nor anyone.

                  Give mass appeals to the COURTS about violations. Shaw, dumb? And sho so?

                  In 2009 in Moldova due to "massive apparent proven falsifications" elections held by the long-term "dictator" were held by the victorious Maidan.

                  Know, then, NOT a SINGLE proof, court decisions on "falsifications" the fighters-winners for "fair elections" over the past 11 years have NOT Brought! But the train had already left, the Maidan fought ...

                  But the fact that he was doing with the elections THEMSELVES for 11 years is incomprehensible to the mind from impudent manipulation, stuffing, corruption, removal of competitors and other abomination.
                  1. +4
                    15 October 2020 13: 47
                    In the USSR, 99% voted for the communists. And if you are in doubt about the numbers, then I will answer like this
                    Quote: Olgovich

                    By whom installed and PROVED falsifications?

                    ANYONE and NOTHING

                    For
                    Quote: Olgovich

                    Give mass appeals to the COURTS about violations. Shaw, dumb? And sho so?
                  2. +2
                    15 October 2020 14: 00
                    Do you want the Cyc to prove himself !?
                  3. -3
                    15 October 2020 15: 47
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    Who installed and PROVED falsifications?

                    ANYONE and NOTHING: neither the courts, nor the CEC, nor the Parliament, nor anyone.

                    Do you often visit Belarus and communicate with Belarusians? I am often. I live near the border and I know the situation better than you, looking from Chisinau. You will soon have the same thing, and then I will demand proof from you.
                    1. -1
                      16 October 2020 08: 43
                      Quote: AK1972
                      Do you often visit Belarus and communicate with Belarusians? I am often. I live near the border and I know the situation better than you, looking from Chisinau. ...

                      I don't care about your fake "knowledge".

                      We, too, knew everything "for certain". NO ONE, do you hear, NO ONE evidence of falsification, in the end, NO.
                      You will soon have the same thing and then I will demand proof from you

                      So the same western creatures, but already in Chisinau they are ALREADY shouting about FUTURE "only falsifications", as a fact and ALREADY call for protests against "dishonest" elections, blackmail with Maidan and pogroms, if they do not win.

                      And they are supported from the West: the leader of the Merkel party DIRECTLY addressed the citizens of Moldova with a threat-appeal to vote for the Western creature.

                      So there is no need to tell fables.
                      1. +3
                        16 October 2020 12: 32
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        I don't care about your fake "knowledge".

                        I am also indifferent to your genuine ignorance.
                        I know about fraudulent elections in the Russian Federation not by hearsay, you participated in the elections as a member and chairman of the PEC, a member of the TEC. I saw everything and the merry-go-rounds and stuffing (he himself repeatedly received offers) and deliveries of voters, and a glass of prize money for drunks. Complaints to the TECs are received regularly and they are considered, but by the majority of votes (United Russia and their allies), the facts of violations are not revealed. Once, as an observer, I pointed out to the PEC chairman about the inadmissibility of campaigning on election day, and what do you think ... At the exit from the precinct, I saw my car, covered by traffic police patrol cars, on both sides. After long bickering, together with the candidate for deputy, he was taken to the police without explaining the reasons, the car was searched with the involvement of attesting witnesses from the basement. Until 20.00 (the end of voting) we sat in the police, wrote complaints to the chief of police and the city prosecutor. Result: "No illegal actions of police officers were found." And so in the elections at all levels and on the part of only one party (you can guess which one?). I don’t think it’s more honest in Belarus than here.
                        I don’t like to write long comments, but don’t take it a job reading a story that is not fake.
                        Once an old friend from Moscow came to visit me with a new young wife, who works as a simple manager. in a Moscow kindergarten and in a sauna under a glass, she began to boast that she had bought an underage daughter from her first marriage in an apartment in Moscow, that she and her husband had a car (not viburnum). Well, I say they get your head. gardens. She laughed and said: "I have been chairing the PEC for many years." When I said that, too, she asked: "What was not offered?" I replied that they had offered it, but I didn’t get it. She was offended and said: "You may not be okay, but you are a shit." Any questions?
                      2. -4
                        16 October 2020 19: 43
                        Quote: AK1972
                        Any questions?

                        There are no questions for those offended by losing the elections: this is their lot to moan and cry about their “offended” fate.
                        Quote: AK1972
                        but don’t take it a job reading a non-phony story.

                        I read this "non-sticky" story.

                        Now give the opportunity to ask the OTHER side in this story, otherwise your price is worthless.
                      3. +1
                        17 October 2020 06: 20
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Now give the opportunity to ask the OTHER side in this story, otherwise your price is worthless.

                        I am pleased to give you this opportunity, ask! Moreover, I myself urge my colleagues to talk about the falsifications by opposition and quasi-opposition parties. Let's look at the price of your "truth".
                      4. +1
                        17 October 2020 06: 52
                        And offended it is rather you, Olgovich! Offended by a revolution or a coup, call it whatever you like, the Bolsheviks, who did not allow you "noble" to continue to parasitize on the working people and took away the family name. Andrei, why are these elections at all? Well them backwards! Why spend budget money on this circus? Let's organize the last referendum (or better, a "popular vote") on the abolition of the Constitution and the introduction of the monarchy (the CEC will provide the desired result), the monarch's candidacy is known and has no alternative. You look and the property will be returned, and a couple - three hundred serf souls (for a start). How do you like the proposal?
                      5. -1
                        17 October 2020 09: 52
                        Quote: AK1972
                        I am pleased to give you this opportunity, ask!

                        What is your empty chatterbox?

                        On the table, a specific polling station, the names of the members of the EC and their views on the situation, your official registered complaint, the official response to it.

                        No?

                        To freedom!
                        Quote: AK1972
                        And offended it is rather you, Olgovich! Offended by a revolution or a coup, call it whatever you like, the Bolsheviks, who did not allow you "noble" to continue to parasitize on the workers and took away the family name

                        What the the next rave? belay lol
                        My ancestors are peasants, the mainstay of the state.
                        Quote: AK1972
                        ... Andrei, why are these elections at all? Well them backwards! Why spend budget money on this circus? Let's organize the last referendum (or better, a "popular vote") on the abolition of the Constitution and the introduction of the monarchy (the CEC will provide the desired result), the monarch's candidacy is known and has no alternative. You look and the property will be returned, and a couple - three hundred serf souls (for a start). How do you like the proposal?


                        Falling ... belay lol
                      6. 0
                        17 October 2020 16: 02
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Falling ...

                        and what is it? the elections are won by rogues and parsley, or even bandits like Furgal. not because “everyone knows it,” but because it cannot work out differently, because the winner is the one who has more money for a competent election headquarters. there are some exceptions, for example those whom the darkest person personally appoints, but there are also egregious cases like “vote with your heart”.
                        so maybe the truth is, well, their elections? just what to replace? can exams? although who will allow it? heh heh wassat
                  4. +1
                    16 October 2020 13: 23
                    Courts, CEC. The words are so wonderful. Only these structures are completely dependent and committed. More sense to contact Sportloto.
                  5. 0
                    16 October 2020 18: 17
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    Who installed and PROVED falsifications?

                    Tell me, are there procedures for detecting violations? If you have a reasoned opinion about the integrity of the elections in Belarus, then on what basis are they? There were independent election commissions or were there independent observers, or maybe there was equal access to participation in elections as a candidate?
                    Tell me if there were violations, who should have reported them?
                    1. -5
                      16 October 2020 19: 50
                      Quote: MyVrach
                      Tell me, are there procedures for detecting violations?

                      Learn:

                      ELECTION CODE OF THE REPUBLIC OF BELARUS 11 ... www.rec.gov.by ›sites› default ›files› pdf ›kodeks
                      PDF
                      Quote: MyVrach
                      If you have a reasoned opinion about the integrity of the elections in Belarus, then on what basis are they?

                      I have no reason not to believe the CEC, the Court and the popularly elected LEGAL Parliament.

                      Maybe something is wrong, but, as PRACTICE shows, within 3-4%
                      Quote: MyVrach
                      Tell me if there were violations, who should have reported them?

                      . ALL: CEC, Court, Ministry of Internal Affairs, offended.
                      why?
                      1. +2
                        17 October 2020 14: 07
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Learn:

                        ELECTION CODE OF THE REPUBLIC OF BELARUS 11 ... www.rec.gov.by ›sites› default ›files› pdf ›kodeks

                        And?
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        EVERYTHING: CEC, Court, Ministry of Internal Affairs, offended.
                        why?

                        Seriously? No offense. CEC. I wonder how the CEC will declare its violations?
                        COURT, MVD?
                        I understand that these are your associations to the word "law".
                      2. -4
                        18 October 2020 07: 48
                        Quote: MyVrach
                        And?

                        And teach!
                        Quote: MyVrach
                        Seriously? No offense. CEC. I wonder how the CEC will declare its violations?
                        COURT, MVD?

                        They identify, investigate and establish facts of violation of electoral legislation and ensure its observance.

                        Popularly elected, recognized by all The Parliament of Belarus also recognized and welcomed the elections.

                        Or WHO is your "law"? Cutlet?
                      3. +4
                        18 October 2020 08: 58
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        They identify, investigate and establish facts of violation of electoral legislation and ensure its observance.

                        Admit it, you are not even close to even the basics of law. Your words are snatched from the lexicon used in speeches of lawyers, but the verbal construction of rubbish folded by you.
                      4. 0
                        20 October 2020 12: 59
                        Yes, but how do you like this situation.
                        Self-isolation and fines in Moscow.
                        Claims about the illegality of the measures in the decree are all rejected.
                        And the fines from the cameras were declared illegal, but separately.
                        That is, the measure was introduced illegally, but only this way separately, and how to say that the measures in the decree are not, so immediately refusal to consider claims.
                        This is about advice to go to court and the results of such appeals knowingly
                3. +4
                  15 October 2020 15: 05
                  Quote: AK1972
                  There was no need to falsify the results

                  100% AGREE WITH YOU !!!!!
                  I will only change the date .. to August 2020, and December 1991 ... or 1992 ..
                  I'm talking about a referendum on the preservation of the USSR ...
                  there was much more falsification ... in dozens ... hundreds ... AND THE TOTAL !!! ????

                  at 91 thieves and traitors to the homeland fought for power, those who did not care about the well-being of the people and the country, those who plundered it in recent years, and before led to a state of poverty and queues.
                  But Old Man stands in the position of a state oriented towards a social society, in which a working person is a person with a capital letter, who has the right to use all state institutions for a conditional, and sometimes zero price, and in return, they do not ask for much - work, for money, for normal money.
                  And what does the opposition offer ???? What the Russian Federation experienced in the 90s. Privatization, redistribution of property, empty fields and pastures, factories sawn for scrap metal, closed kindergartens and FAPs, empty villages - do you want this in Belarus?
                  When you accuse the authorities of falsification, you must have proof !!!
                  And yet .... I can judge the people sitting in the offices in the Belgorod region ... but if only they are ready to "lick" without a "command" to turn over their heads ... The king is made by his retinue ... only the king does not always know about those who is in his retinue ...
                  1. +2
                    17 October 2020 16: 16
                    Quote: The Stoker
                    I will only change the date .. to August 2020, and December 1991 ... or 1992 ..
                    I'm talking about a referendum on the preservation of the USSR ...
                    there was much more falsification ... in dozens ... hundreds ... AND THE TOTAL !!! ????

                    gyyy laughing can Belarusians be consistent in considering unfair elections? to start talking from the beginning, from separation from the RSFSR into a sovereign republic? they are for justice and revision of the results, right? here will annul the first false referendum all! no problems! Luka is no longer president and part of Russia. good
                    1. +2
                      18 October 2020 09: 03
                      Quote: SanichSan
                      You are laughing, but can Belarusians be consistent in considering dishonest elections? to start talking from the beginning, from separation from the RSFSR into a sovereign republic? they are for justice and revision of the results, right? here will annul the first false referendum all! no problems! Luka is no longer president and part of Russia.

                      Can you be more specific, what kind of referendum? "Secession from the RSFSR" or secession from the Soviet Union? When was this referendum held and how was it voted on?
                  2. +1
                    17 October 2020 19: 38
                    Quote: The Stoker
                    And Old Man stands in the position of a state oriented towards a social society, in which a working person is a person with a capital letter,

                    LAS look at the state as an economy in which a person is not a citizen, but a labor resource for enterprises. Here's an example: a state-owned woodworking company underwent modernization. Because of what, either working conditions or wages changed, but people began to quit production. Here is the LAS reaction
                    "Therefore, categorically prohibit any dismissals from tomorrow - December 1" and "I quit - to forced labor, and work here. - And your task (Director of the enterprise) with specialists to bring the amount of work every day."
                    In essence, this meant serfdom.
                    Quote: The Stoker
                    entitled to use all state institutions for a conditional and sometimes zero price

                    And these words are in essence an outrage. But leaving emotions aside, I will say, in principle, there are no equal opportunities to use the services of "state institutions".
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              7. +4
                15 October 2020 20: 23
                So much nonsense has been written that wherever you stick it, it’s not like that everywhere ... No one but the OMON stands behind the bow, no millions ... Otherwise, where are they, these mysterious millions of silencers? All who voted in favor gathered for the infamous secret inauguration (Anton s
                1. -4
                  15 October 2020 23: 17
                  Are you worried that you were not warned in time about the inauguration of the president and were not invited to this event?
                2. -2
                  16 October 2020 01: 50
                  In the republic, about 2,5-2,8 million pensioners and the overwhelming majority of them voted not for unknown oppositionists who had NO experience in managing even a small plant, but for the proven President. Yes, he made many mistakes, but this does not negate the fact that he did good, of which there is much more. So, the opinion of 200-300 ignoramuses with iPhones instead of brains is more important than the opinions of millions who built and created the republic and its wealth? So I'm ready to go up against these fools and help the riot police to fix their brains, if at all possible!
                  1. +8
                    16 October 2020 11: 52
                    Are they also undersized with iPhones? No, these are the pensioners who allegedly "voted for Lukashenka."
                    1. -2
                      17 October 2020 16: 17
                      Quote: Beringovsky
                      No, these are the pensioners who allegedly "voted for Lukashenka."

                      You mean that scumbag with a white-red-white rag?
                  2. +3
                    16 October 2020 23: 52
                    Babariko was the head of Belgazprombank for 20 years. Tsepkalo was in charge of HTP. And those pensioners who supported Luka had already died of old age 10 years ago.
              8. +3
                16 October 2020 01: 10
                Quote: Olgovich
                And millions of voters stand behind Lukashenka

                https://news.tut.by/society/704206.html
                Millions

                It is useless for Putinists to prove anything.
                1. -2
                  16 October 2020 02: 46
                  What are you all referring to here.by ??? An openly oppositional site, I read it before, until I got tired of it. Too one-sided presentation of information. You have to look in all directions, not just one. And then you read a lot of telegrams, mulberries and the picture naturally develops in your head that everyone is against the bow ... Here it is brainwashing. And you look around, see how after the elections they walked in ranks around the courtyards, trained, shouted slogans under dictation. Right under the balcony for 3 weeks in a row there was about 10 o'clock in the evening a procession back and forth, back and forth ... I heard all the chants, that then on weekends they shouted in the city. Look around, maybe the picture will change ...
                  1. +2
                    16 October 2020 23: 55
                    And I look around, but in a small enterprise where I work out of 30 people for Luka only 5
                2. -2
                  16 October 2020 09: 10
                  Quote: TerribleGMO
                  https://news.tut.by/society/704206.html
                  Millions

                  Roll a stupid agitation into a tube and there it, there, aha! Yes
                  Quote: TerribleGMO
                  It is useless for Putinists to prove anything.

                  It is useless for the fascists to prove anything. But the straw should help! Yes
                  1. +1
                    16 October 2020 12: 07
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    ... the straw should help! Yes

                    The cocktail goes very well with the straw.
                    Helps clear the brain.
                    1. -2
                      16 October 2020 19: 54
                      Quote: Beringovsky
                      It fits very well with the straw Cocktail.
                      Helps clear the brain
                      .

                      It didn't help you, but you suggest!

                      Fu, ugly ...
              9. -2
                16 October 2020 01: 17
                Olgovich is a YOUNG MAN, he said correctly and clearly
            4. 0
              15 October 2020 09: 29
              Quote: Bearded
              It's just that in the West they don't know anything about the chemical warfare agent DICHLOFOS.

              Yes, they confused "newbie" with "dichlorvos", or rather deliberately confused.
            5. +2
              15 October 2020 09: 31
              Quote: Bearded
              The third month of Maydan. And what do they eat? Where does the money come from?

              Dad and mom are fed, "they are" theirs.
              1. +3
                15 October 2020 16: 38
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Quote: Bearded
                The third month of Maydan. And what do they eat? Where does the money come from?

                Dad and mom are fed, "they are" theirs.

                Big money is poured into these protestors ... I am sure already somewhere in the hidden warehouses prepared tents, potbelly stoves, cunning seagulls and tires for fires .. All according to the template Vlad!
                And the faces are the same in the photo, as on the Maidan ..
                1. -4
                  16 October 2020 01: 53
                  No wonder. Only enthusiastic, brainless individuals go to such booths.
              2. +5
                15 October 2020 19: 28
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Quote: Bearded
                The third month of Maydan. And what do they eat? Where does the money come from?

                Dad and mom are fed, "they are" theirs.

                People go to work the same way. Protests in the evening after work and on weekends, despite beatings, dismissals from work, threats. Judging by your comment, you would definitely have a guts to protest. I'm surprised there is YouTube, Telegram, LJ, Instagram, see what is really happening in Belarus. If only to write something in comments, having no idea of ​​reality.
            6. +4
              15 October 2020 11: 51
              removed from the tongue. And then I wanted to write to the author impartially. But you did it politely.
              1. +2
                15 October 2020 19: 30
                Quote: besik
                removed from the tongue. And then I wanted to write to the author impartially. But you did it politely.

                The same can be written about you, see above. No respect
                1. 0
                  22 October 2020 01: 54
                  oh ... how gentle we are! eptyl! How to write Mui Ne, Duc can, but how to hear the answer, so the gut is thin. These are the ones not to go to the rally, where the polite Lukashenka riot police - here they can both by mother and face about the table ... their respect for yourself and zaglobastay.
                  1. 0
                    22 October 2020 12: 30
                    Quote: besik
                    oh ... how gentle we are! eptyl! How to write Mui Ne, Duc can, but how to hear the answer, so the gut is thin. These are the ones not to go to the rally, where the polite Lukashenka riot police - here they can both by mother and face about the table ... their respect for yourself and zaglobastay.

                    Here, you are brave only to walk with riot police. The eagles are straight. As muynkyu to write, Duc Mogem, and how to hear the answer, so the gut is thin. Ostriches with their heads in the ground - I don't see anything, I don't hear, I don't want to. No respect!
              2. -5
                16 October 2020 01: 58
                Yuri, look closely at yesterday's photos from Tutbay. On different streets there are small groups of 10-20, rarely 30 undergrowths with BCHB-rags, which immediately scatter when they see the police. And this is passed off as a "protest
                million "? Yes, on Sundays, a herd gathers, wandering aimlessly around the city and violating my right to move freely around the city and causing traffic jams. For this, you have to fine, which is done.
            7. +3
              16 October 2020 01: 09
              Quote: Bearded
              Is the daddy atrocities? And what is happening in the West?

              But in the US, blacks are lynched.

              Quote: Bearded
              In the USA and Germany, the COMENDANT CLOCK is introduced in cities without any elections.

              In the USA there are pogroms and the population has millions of barrels of all calibers on hand.
              In Germany, restrictions are due to the crown. Have they already forgotten about similar measures in Moscow?

              Quote: Bearded
              In France and Bulgaria, children are dispersed with batons and tear gas.

              In France, shop windows are beaten, cars and houses are burned. In Belarus, the OMON is doing this.
              The Bulgarians themselves will tell you about Bulgaria (and have already done it on VO).

              Quote: Bearded
              Father is just an angel

              Take it for yourself and canonize. There will be two pair of boots for Putin for once.
            8. +4
              16 October 2020 16: 16
              "[quote] [/ quote] So without financial and informational support from the West, the Maidan is not possible, and Western financiers openly support the cook Tikhanovskaya"

              And now, without emotion, let's just do arithmetic. If each participant is paid at least 5 euros for one show, then 100000 euros are needed to demonstrate 500000 people in Minsk alone, on Sunday alone. And this is 63 tons (if the bills are new). This is about 8 Kamaz trucks. If we take into account that the actions have been going on for 2 months in many cities, then whole columns of trucks with cash are constantly cutting across Belarus. Moreover, they somehow cross the border. Warehouses and distribution points are also needed. And no security officials see them ?! And this is with total control of the government over the entire country, and the complete absence of oligarchs !!
              Unreal.
              1. -2
                17 October 2020 16: 33
                Quote: Normal ok
                If each participant is paid at least 5 euros for one demonstration per share, then for the demonstration of 100000 people in Minsk alone, on Sunday alone, 500000 euros are needed.

                what for? extras will collect and 2000. what for 20 to pay? 2000 is more than enough to create congestion and visibility.
                and when was there 100k? do not remind? or are you hypothetically?
                Quote: Normal ok
                And this is 63 tons (if the bills are new).

                what belay did you mean coins for sure? laughing 1 lam weighs 126kg in 5 euro bills.
                I hope it is clear that everything you write next is delusional wink
                share where you got this nonsense? the unwanted opposition of Belarus? lol
          2. -8
            15 October 2020 10: 40
            Quote: carstorm 11
            well, cockroaches are tenacious)

            look back, all the spitefulness all come back, you laugh later
            1. +6
              15 October 2020 11: 26
              Quote: Federal1
              all the grudge all come back

              Everything comes back. someday lies will come back about all these chemical attacks, poisoning, etc.
            2. +5
              15 October 2020 13: 18
              He is happy for Lukashenka, he thinks what a tenacious cockroach
          3. +1
            15 October 2020 21: 35
            400 million years on this planet. Acclimatized. We survived all the big ones. So they pretended to be people and crawled out again. They hope there will be Armageddon, and they will survive and multiply. And then they have become something smaller. Even a hundred years ago they were much larger. So they are active.
          4. 0
            17 October 2020 00: 41
            Quote: carstorm 11
            well, cockroaches are tenacious)

            Do you want to tell me why?)) They are tenacious because there is no "dichlorvos" in the form of a clear program (what are you going to do without a cockroach), where you prick up your skis, there is no adequate leader, there are no complaints except how - he must leave. And therefore, besides the pshek, you are not really needed by anyone, and the pshek need you only because of their ambition. I don't know if anyone told you about such a moment as your (protesters) current flag, but personally it strained me first of all, I was on the side of the protesters until I saw a new ensign, and immediately the thought crept in - and what not so with the one that is, and how much I was not interested in an adequate answer and did not hear, and I have at least a dozen friends from Belarus. So, you have no less mistakes than Batka, and they cannot be corrected in the near future. You, the opposition, immediately took to the wrong career and lost, but in fact, not much was needed to win. But the most interesting thing is that you are not trying to work on mistakes, but stupidly rested against protests like a ram at a new gate ... A little tip - find a leader, a competent manager, to begin with, and try to understand what you want. The cook cannot put two words together in a pile, and with her and near, already waste material. Decide on your desires, because I want the motherboard and the car now, they look wretched and humiliating from the outside ..))) Yes, and immediately think about where you will take money for your balls, abroad will not help you, but we are already tired of you, you first, at least pay for the nuclear power plant, otherwise it will not come out like a kid if it cools down there before it heats up))
        2. KCA
          +2
          15 October 2020 07: 31
          Jack Daniels Blue Label whiskey box toss for free, it will surely kill him
          1. 0
            15 October 2020 09: 47
            Quote: KCA
            Jack Daniels Blue Label whiskey box toss for free, it will surely kill him

            Yes, even smoke grass, then the attic takes down a clean one.
            1. 0
              15 October 2020 09: 57
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Yes, even smoke grass, then the attic takes down a clean one.

              I think you should serve him truly faithful Colombian coke.
              1. -4
                16 October 2020 02: 00
                professional advice, apparently !!! Smoke on Flavius ​​...
        3. +1
          15 October 2020 07: 32
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          the Germans claim that he was poisoned twice ... poisoned, poisoned, poisoned ... underexposed ... the bastard turned out to be tenacious ..

          Come on! He liked Merkel, so he won't let go!
          1. 0
            15 October 2020 09: 48
            Quote: Egoza
            Come on! He liked Merkel, so he won't let go!

            Perverted taste of the "grandmother".
            1. +3
              15 October 2020 09: 49
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Perverted taste of the "grandmother".

              The glory of Macron's wife is haunted. And here is an ownerless little man in his own clinic! Well, how not to attend!
              1. +1
                17 October 2020 16: 36
                but what about the wife and children? or is the fight more important ?? belay
      2. +20
        15 October 2020 07: 12
        there is already a frank Navalnovsky circus left

        A strange article, as if written under the dictation of Soros chicks. Again, Putin is to blame for everything, who supports White Russia, does not allow it to fall apart,
        turn into a concentration camp ...
        At the same time, it is not Russia, not the people of Russia that supports White Russia, but Putin, who is clearly wrong, squanders people's money to support and bribe the bloody regime ... Such an article can be posted right within the walls of the parliament of Poland, Lithuania or some other Baltic states shouting "Hurray !!! Russian patriots woke up, they don't want to support Lukashenko." Just like Tikhonovskaya wrote. It's just, it's a pity, there is no translation into English, otherwise it could be read in the English Parliament or in some other parliament of the Geyropes ...
        No, dear, not Putin, not Putin, but Russia, the people of Russia support Lukashenko and want Belaya Rus to be united with Russia and not be a second Ukraine. It is Russia, the people of Russia, who do not want the Rzeczpospolita to revive on the border with Russia, and a new Livonian war began.
        So, kindly request: you roll with such articles and appeals to Poland or some other Baltic region, where they will look in your mouth and throw silver coins for the nastiness and dirty tricks that you will do there against Russia, the people of Russia, betraying him ....
        1. -6
          15 October 2020 07: 44
          Quote: The Truth
          A strange article, as if written under the dictation of Soros chicks.

          On the contrary, the article is quite logical.
          The author of the article is an ardent admirer of the USSR, and he hates the current government, so anyone who is against Russia led by Putin is an ally for him. All as Machiavelli wrote:
          if the enemy approaches, defeat is inevitable, since the weaker party will join the attackers, and the strong one will not be able to defend the city
          1. +1
            17 October 2020 16: 40
            Quote: Dart2027
            The author of the article is an ardent admirer of the USSR, and he hates the current government, so anyone who is against Russia led by Putin is an ally for him.

            Duc it, have already seen those who are against and still with whom. happened with Hitler, but nothing, they were fine. oh, by the way, the flag is the same wink
        2. +9
          15 October 2020 07: 44
          I am sure the article was not written by Skomorokhov. Or, more likely, she went through the "edit". The article has too serious implications. The article is intended for my 18-year-old granddaughter. In one word, youth. It is the youth who will take it at face value. And he will be captured. Thanks to such authors, suspicions arise - hasn't VO become a notorious NPO?
          1. +4
            15 October 2020 09: 37
            I fully agree with you about the main course of articles on this resource. By the way, in the next thread there is a discussion of an article about Pashinyan. So an analogue of Pashinyan may well appear in Belarus, and that Russia will get better from this?
            It is clear that Lukashenka, to put it mildly, is not a gift, but unfortunately Russia has not raised anyone else (as far as it was possible to do).
            1. +3
              15 October 2020 13: 23
              "It is clear that Lukashenko, to put it mildly, is not a gift, but unfortunately Russia has not raised anyone else."

              And now, since Russia "has not grown up", you offer the Belarusians to endure "not a gift", it is normal so, cynically
              1. +2
                15 October 2020 14: 12
                I don’t offer Belarusians anything. Let them figure it out themselves.
                I said that the lesser of two evils is chosen.
                Who replaces Lukashenka? Option: anyone, as long as he is not, is flawed, the Belarusian analogue of Pashinyan is also.
                Yes, and international politics is generally a very cynical thing.
        3. 0
          15 October 2020 11: 33
          Dear "RRR"
          Fun juggling concepts:
          In the article: "Putin supports Lukashenko" (who is like against his own people)
          You have: "The people of Russia support Lukashenko" (the potato Fuehrer and the population of Sineokoy are mixed into one broth, which is also a dirty manipulation and the same eggs only from the side)

          In fact, at the expense of the Russian budget, Putin subsidizes unprofitable production facilities in Belarus (our direct competitors), their communal services, social benefits, and launches Zmagar products on the Russian market. That is, the Leader thus, at our Russian expense, supports the entire Belarusian people. ... And for this the Darkest One gets a tub of dirt from both the AHLA and its opposition. And in Russia the people are very dissatisfied with this.

          Recently, it was reported in the news that Belazes will be produced in Mother Russia (previously, the production of certain key types of products of the Belarusian military-industrial complex was transferred to Russian soil). This is a very positive call for the Russian people. The ice has broken. But! if in Ukraine the local industry and agricultural production were destroyed by our western partners. Then in Belarus we should not count on an overseas uncle, but decide the issue ourselves.

          And the Belarusians should definitely help targeted, in the development of the Far East, for example.
          1. +1
            16 October 2020 01: 59
            Quote: navel
            And the Belarusians should definitely help targeted, in the development of the Far East, for example.

            And you asked them if they want to master the Far East?
            1. -1
              16 October 2020 09: 26
              Whom do you think the Great Russians should ask something else?
              And in Belarus, I consider two options for development.
              1. Realistic. Relocation of significant industries to the territory of Russia (in progress), reorientation of traffic flows to the Russian Baltic ports (in progress).
              Then the end of subsidies to the Belarusian economy, social services, the closure of markets for Zmagar goods. Collapse of industrial and agricultural production of Sineokoy.
              Reception by Russia slave. forces from this country on a quota - a certain age, gender.
              Without obtaining civil rights.
              2. Humanitarian. The entry of Russian business into Belarus. Preservation of about 30 percent of industrial and agricultural enterprises (not key) under the Russian leadership.
              The surplus of the population under the program for the development of the Far East - Russian passports and lifting.
              I do not consider the option of joining Belarus to Russia at all. It takes too many resources and there is no benefit. The rise from "reunification" will quickly turn into rejoicing from the fall in the standard of living of the Great Russians. People should not be angry.
              There will be no more Crimean phenomenon with the distribution of Russian passports to all residents of the territory that is part of Russia.
          2. +2
            16 October 2020 18: 42
            Quote: navel
            That is, the Leader thus, at our Russian expense, supports the entire Belarusian people. ...

            You reminded me of the Ukrainians and the Balts, who, in Soviet times, groaned all the time that they were feeding Russia.
            And Belarusians, by the way, produce a fairly high-quality product.
            1. -1
              19 October 2020 09: 10
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Quote: navel
              That is, the Leader thus, at our Russian expense, supports the entire Belarusian people. ...

              You reminded me of the Ukrainians and the Balts, who, in Soviet times, groaned all the time that they were feeding Russia.
              And Belarusians, by the way, produce a fairly high-quality product.

              And you reminded me of Yegorushka Gaidar (he was such a leader during perestroika times), who answered at the next closure of the Russian enterprise: It's okay, we'll take everything abroad.
              And so, according to the IMF (which does not particularly like Russia), the annual infusion of our country into Belarus is 10 lard green, and this is at low prices for Sineoka for Russian oil and gas, and with a permitted entry to the domestic market. The revenue side of the budget of Bulbanistan in 2016 amounted to 9,6 lard green, which is less than the annual subsidies of Russia. The Belarusians themselves always emphasize that Russia is pouring into their country more than the EU into Poland, with a population difference of 4 times.
              Question to the Darkest One: Why economically, financially and politically support this pseudo-judicial entity? Why enter the Russian market with products that compete with domestic ones? What is this sabotage?
        4. +8
          15 October 2020 11: 56
          And you create your own site - Prigozhinskoe Review. There you will squeeze the correct articles about the machinations of the State Department, nasty ones, regular victories and other crap. True, we have enough such pro-government sites, well, there will be one more. But nobody needs them. Usually a dozen paid trolls sit on them, with dull hackneyed comments. So you can't cut down the dough on the comments
          1. -3
            15 October 2020 13: 53
            Of course, of course, you are right - only trolls!)) Here is the radio of freedom, Mukha Moskvy, Lehin Fund, yes - the lake of truth, and the rest is a blatant lie !!!!))
            1. +5
              15 October 2020 15: 20
              Quote: Odessa Greek
              Of course, of course, you are right - only trolls!)) Here is the radio of freedom, Mukha Moskvy, Lehin Fund, yes - the lake of truth, and the rest is a blatant lie !!!!))

              You, dear, confuse the voices of cockroaches in your head with the position of the interlocutor.
              As for me "Both are worse!" C. smile
              Plague on them all
        5. -9
          15 October 2020 12: 05
          I understand that you have the right to speak on behalf of the entire Russian people ???
          if so, then why are you indignant at the actions of Lukashenka ??
          - We give a pit for so many days, we keep the whole Belarus, but he doesn't love us!
          Well, be ready to continue paying for his new palaces and not whine!
        6. +3
          15 October 2020 13: 20
          And why are you speaking on behalf of the people of Russia?
      3. 0
        18 October 2020 15: 34
        I am surprised to the "siloviks". Courage and endurance.
    2. -1
      15 October 2020 05: 57
      It’s really funny who is trying to remind something about Khabarovsk.
      1. +11
        15 October 2020 06: 17
        Lukashenka criticized not only his rivals in the presidential race and the oppositionists who joined them. Stanislav Shushkevich, the first post-Soviet leader of the republic, also received his portion of criticism, for whom the Belarusian leader predicted bleak prospects.
        “This old senile Shushkevich also cackled. Well, where are you, goat, climbing? I gave you a pension. What else do you want? Moreover, he himself ruined the country, now he gives advice. No use from him. As soon as we launch the BelNPP, Shushkevich goes straight to the reactor. Experts assure that it is realistic to do it, ”Lukashenka said.
        1. +8
          15 October 2020 06: 30
          As soon as we launch the BelNPP, Shushkevich goes straight to the reactor.

          He won't fit in there ... fat hurts.
          And why put all sorts of waste into a nuclear power plant.
        2. +10
          15 October 2020 07: 35
          Quote: Deck
          As soon as we launch the BelNPP, Shushkevich goes straight to the reactor.

          But with this I agree. Still, Kravchuk and Gorbachev go there for the company.
          1. +4
            15 October 2020 07: 48
            Quote: Egoza
            Quote: Deck
            As soon as we launch the BelNPP, Shushkevich goes straight to the reactor.

            But with this I agree. Still, Kravchuk and Gorbachev go there for the company.

            Will fall apart ..
            1. +6
              15 October 2020 10: 51
              Quote: The Siberian Barber
              Will fall apart ..

              Worse, they will divide.
              The reactor, turbine hall and coolers will declare independence - and will begin to split water / steam.
      2. 0
        15 October 2020 17: 05
        Quote: ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
        It’s really funny who is trying to remind something about Khabarovsk.

        That's right, Khabarovsk is a Khabarovsk problem, and people speak out in their region, for their region. But no further.
    3. +19
      15 October 2020 06: 11
      Quote: Dead Day
      The protest movement continues for the third month in Belarus.
      and about Khabarovsk will be?

      There will be no - because there is nothing to write about - everything is calm here (I've been here in Khbr for two weeks now), except that buffoons will scrape off the ceiling or suck "facts" from the ceiling))))
      1. +1
        15 October 2020 13: 27
        Yes, we saw the video how it was "quiet" ...
        1. +4
          15 October 2020 14: 08
          Quote: Revival
          Yes, we saw the video how it was "quiet" ...

          Video shnyaga - I saw how they are being cooked up here, filming a column of military equipment (military parts are like fleas to a dog, they are constantly chasing here) with comments like Putin pulls together troops to suppress protests ... by air defense)))) )) This is a creation in short pants in a fagot Moscow fashion, not knowing the technique, takes off and throws bullshit into the Internet, for people like you
          1. -1
            15 October 2020 15: 28
            And, so this is the bulk of the fake about the riot police who jumped out of the city hall was removed? well, it's clear with you ..
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    4. +4
      15 October 2020 07: 01
      But what about another article, however, from another, eminent author on the "military review"?
      More (!) From August 25 !!!
      In which he unambiguously stated that the protests in Belarus had declined, the revolution had failed and aunts were not standing along the roadside with flags ...
      Why doesn't he write a sequel?
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    6. 0
      15 October 2020 13: 50
      And what about Khabaru, they put a ghoul ... oh-oh or an elf ... ah-ah)
    7. +2
      15 October 2020 16: 34
      Quote: Dead Day
      The protest movement continues for the third month in Belarus.
      and about Khabarovsk will be?

      Everyone moved from Khabarovsk to Minsk together with posters, only other flags were sewn ... bully
    8. +1
      15 October 2020 21: 31
      Nope. There, you see, there is absolutely nothing to show. Something, some old shots, and that they are burning tires and trying to build barricades across the streets to block traffic in the form of peaceful protest - somehow you can't see.
  2. +19
    15 October 2020 05: 30
    you can chase the security forces as much as you like. even to believe that they are generally to blame turns out to be in the protests! (surprising statement). but they do what they were created for in every country in the world. and personally, I am sure that their rigidity in the early days did not allow the Ukrainian scenario to work. You can guess as much as you like, but the protest is now openly afraid of them and therefore has not yet developed into a serious phase of clashes. because everyone understood that they would not stand like in Kiev without weapons and without the opportunity to use force.
    1. +8
      15 October 2020 06: 03
      Quote: carstorm 11
      you can chase the security forces as much as you like. even to believe that they are generally to blame turns out to be in the protests! (surprising statement). but they do what they were created for in every country in the world. and personally, I am sure that their rigidity in the early days did not allow the Ukrainian scenario to work. You can guess as much as you like, but the protest is now openly afraid of them and therefore has not yet developed into a serious phase of clashes. because everyone understood that they would not stand like in Kiev without weapons and without the opportunity to use force.

      Glory to Pinochet. Thanks to his decisive action, Chile did not plunge into chaos
      1. +1
        15 October 2020 06: 08
        before etmim if my memory serves me, he made a military coup. why are these comparisons?
        1. +2
          15 October 2020 07: 37
          Well, why is it just one-to-one comparison in some aspects! And here and there the president with a machine gun in his hands.
          It is time to understand which body to talk about the fate and actions of the submachine gunner Lukashenko, he is not a friend of our country, now a lot of vector politics will fall from the tailbone and trample out.
          I don’t know how it’s going to end there, but Russia's haemorrhoid is provided, among other things, by the efforts of a hero machine gunner.
          1. +4
            15 October 2020 07: 42
            nothing at all. Although I am not a supporter of Lukashenka, he did not come to power through a military coup. did not kill people in batches. and the British parliament will never intercede for Lukashenka so that he would not be shot. and then you are now comparing at the level he has two arms and two legs and it means he is similar.
            1. +4
              15 October 2020 08: 18
              Quote: carstorm 11
              nothing at all. Although I am not a supporter of Lukashenka, he did not come to power through a military coup. did not kill people in batches. and the British parliament will never intercede for Lukashenka so that he would not be shot. and then you are now comparing at the level he has two arms and two legs and it means he is similar.

              The question is not whether Lukashenka or Pinochet killed people anymore, but that both believe that in order to preserve power, any methods can be used. By the way, if Lukashenka fabricated the election results, then he also committed unconstitutional actions. Or, more simply, a crime
              1. +7
                15 October 2020 08: 24
                and what any methods did Lukashenka use? drove protesters to the stadium and their corpses are loaded there in stacks? you are now trying to compare a hedgehog with a carrot and it does not work out well for you. as far as fabricated, you just need to prove it first and then protest and not vice versa.
                1. +5
                  15 October 2020 08: 39
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  and what any methods did Lukashenka use? drove protesters to the stadium and their corpses are loaded there in stacks? you are now trying to compare a hedgehog with a carrot and it does not work out well for you. as far as fabricated, you just need to prove it first and then protest and not vice versa.

                  The main thing that Lukashenka is missing now, in my opinion, is the articles in the newspapers of the repentant protesters and open trials with evidence of their guilt. Sheckley seems to have a wonderful story "The Cannon That Doesn't Blow". It shows that when a flock does not see its members perishing, the flock does not feel fear.
                  1. -8
                    15 October 2020 12: 15
                    so the same can be said about the other side of the conflict.
                    while only cars and houses are burning riot police. but when they themselves start to be extinguished, it is interesting that they will begin to bleat. example of Ukraine with a golden eagle, by the way, not so long ago.
                    1. +1
                      15 October 2020 12: 48
                      Quote: www3
                      example of Ukraine with a golden eagle

                      He showed very well to the police officers of Belarus what the so-called peaceful Protestants are and what to do with them.
                    2. +1
                      15 October 2020 13: 22
                      for this you need to plant and for a very long time. do you need hamster-shaped enforcers? that would stand and not rock the boat? can you show the country where they are? burning cars and houses? Believe me, the answer will arrive and there will be little to anyone. it is already beyond the bounds. they will not bleat. they are men and do their job. they are being prepared for this. and you probably need anarchy as in 404 when gangs of gopniks will run through the streets and your security forces stand and watch as they abuse people. good luck in this upside down world to you.
                      1. +1
                        15 October 2020 13: 36
                        we need security officials who observe the law !!!!
                        no matter who is in power!
                        and if you violate the law, then be prepared that the law can be skated in the opposite direction.
                      2. +2
                        15 October 2020 13: 38
                        they do. Will you read the law on the police yourself and the right of employees to use force?
                      3. -1
                        15 October 2020 13: 47
                        https://news.tut.by/society/703852.html - здесь расклад от юриста о применении силы милицией.
                        and what law do employees observe when driving around Minsk in buses without numbers, themselves in civilian clothes and grabbing people on the streets ??? and please note that people are not suspected of committing criminal offenses, but all that is administrative !!
                      4. +4
                        15 October 2020 13: 56
                        you know ... I have not lived for the first day. there is a video about a 13 year old girl. can you ask a question? who trained her so that she knows exactly when the camera was brought up to relax sharply so that she would have to be dragged? believe this is the ruling. this is taught. the average person's reaction is completely different. he goes by himself. I have seen such girls in Moscow when Navalny is a freak. bullet to bullet reaction. only an exhalation immediately enters the camera and the tough police pull and do not lead) for a picture in the media it is very beneficial. all these little things only once again convince about what is happening there. Here we get a picture of the brutality of the police. as for the explanations, he is right. you just perceive everything there for the sake of your convictions and not as information from the outside. hence our differences in interpretation. if you can convince me now that the life of the employees there is not in danger, then I will agree with you. although your words that their cars and houses are harnessed suggests that they know for sure that this is not so.
                      5. +1
                        15 October 2020 14: 05
                        I brought this article not for the sake of video !!! but for the sake of the lawyer's comments about the police.
                        link to this article is easier than looking for "law on police" !!!!

                        what caused the need to shoot an unarmed person !!!!
                        and this case is not even being investigated !!!!
                        first to the whole world! they said that an unknown woo exploded in his hand and that he died from this, and after the video appeared, that all the comments disappeared.
                        and this is just one of the cases !!!!
                        I repeat once again - most of the protesters fall under the administration!
                        in Minsk not a single glass was broken by them, not a single car was burnt !!! and this is in 3 months!
                        video of the arrest of a person suspected under the Administrative Code))
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v--VmVLwvIk&feature=emb_logo
                      6. +3
                        15 October 2020 14: 09
                        I deny the facts that overdo it sometimes? but, unfortunately, this is the usual thing in such situations. people are on edge. the effect of the crowd has not been canceled either. see how crowds are knitted and dispersed in the shrines of democracy. with them no one stands on ceremony with the word at all. so it was and so it will be after. no one from the siloviki will wait when it comes from the back with reinforcement or a stone in the head.
                      7. -3
                        15 October 2020 14: 14
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        I deny the facts that overdo it sometimes? but, unfortunately, this is the usual thing in such situations. people are on edge. the effect of the crowd has not been canceled either. see how crowds are knitted and dispersed in the shrines of democracy. with them no one stands on ceremony with the word at all. so it was and so it will be after. no one from the siloviki will wait when it comes from the back with reinforcement or a stone in the head.


                        only you for some reason, giving an example of how they knit in shrines, ALWAYS quietly keep silent about how many shops there were looted and cars burned, etc.
                      8. -1
                        15 October 2020 14: 22
                        Are we talking about robberies or the work of security officials in direct contact with the protesters?
                      9. 0
                        15 October 2020 16: 19
                        What does the effect of the crowd mean and they say, well, the employees go too far?
                        Understand and forgive!?
                        An employee must also be imprisoned for a crime, and not “well, he’s for a good cause,” otherwise it’s not a state, but lawlessness and terror.
                        Then the protesters just go too far, then also understand and forgive
                      10. +1
                        15 October 2020 17: 05
                        Quote: Revival
                        Then the protesters just go too far, then also understand and forgive

                        When they have served their due.
                      11. +1
                        16 October 2020 00: 16
                        Then the employees who are overbending must sit out at least!
                        Or are you for lawlessness and terror, well, like in the name of a good cause?
                        End justifies the means? AND?
                      12. +1
                        16 October 2020 06: 40
                        Quote: Revival
                        End justifies the means?

                        Rather, the alternative, and in the case of the "fighters for democracy" justifies. When it all started, I wrote in the discussion of one article that after Ukraine the police, in Belarus, are ready to tear protesters to shreds, and I agree with it. Do you want a coup d'état gentlemen? Well, then do not be offended that they will deal with you without sentimentality. And they still act softly, and not like in Tiananmen Square.
                      13. -1
                        15 October 2020 14: 05
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        you know ... I have not lived for the first day. there is a video about a 13 year old girl. can you ask a question? who trained her so that she knows exactly when the camera was brought up to relax sharply so that she would have to be dragged? believe this is the ruling. this is taught. the average person's reaction is completely different. he goes by himself. I have seen such girls in Moscow when Navalny is a freak. bullet to bullet reaction. only an exhalation immediately enters the camera and the tough police pull and do not lead) for a picture in the media it is very beneficial. all these little things only once again convince about what is happening there. Here we get a picture of the brutality of the police. as for the explanations, he is right. you just perceive everything there for the sake of your convictions and not as information from the outside. hence our differences in interpretation. if you can convince me now that the life of the employees there is not in danger, then I will agree with you. although your words that their cars and houses are harnessed suggests that they know for sure that this is not so.

                        You also say that they break their own heads
                      14. +1
                        15 October 2020 14: 14
                        I will not say. but for a laugh, find a video and a photo of the detention on Tverskaya and compare) they do everything the same with what from the same angles)
                      15. -2
                        15 October 2020 14: 12
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        if you can convince me now that the life of the employees there is not in danger, then I will agree with you. although your words that their cars and houses are harnessed suggests that they know for sure that this is not so.


                        https://yandex.by/video/preview/?filmId=16520968912688763341&from=tabbar&text=убийство+трайковский

                        Convince me, where is the threat to employees in this video?
                      16. +3
                        15 October 2020 14: 21
                        came a light and noise. what does a man have in his head when he rushes to formation? he was shouted to stop every 20 times. he did not fulfill the requirements. sorry, but it's only his fault. so I can see very well that people are throwing something into the riot police. right in the foreground of this video. what do you expect from them? what will they stand and watch?
                      17. +1
                        15 October 2020 19: 09
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        came a light and noise. what does a man have in his head when he rushes to formation? he was shouted to stop every 20 times. he did not fulfill the requirements. sorry, but it's only his fault. so I can see very well that people are throwing something into the riot police. right in the foreground of this video. what do you expect from them? what will they stand and watch?

                        in this case, if you are a professional, then it was enough for him to at least cross the butt and that would be enough! don't go to Minsk! )
                      18. -1
                        15 October 2020 19: 32
                        Quote: www3
                        don't go to Minsk

                        So are you a racist?
                      19. +1
                        15 October 2020 19: 36
                        yeah, I don't like blacks and.
                      20. -1
                        15 October 2020 19: 43
                        Quote: www3
                        yeah, I don't like blacks and

                        But at the same time, take an example from them.
                      21. +2
                        15 October 2020 20: 02
                        special fo yu - https://news.tut.by/society/704206.html
                        and such records, and not only audio, have already been collected enough to say that the elections were rigged! and this is just a criminal article!
                      22. 0
                        16 October 2020 06: 50
                        Quote: www3
                        special fo yu - https://news.tut.by/society/704206.html

                        For Dmitriev - zero, for Kanopatskaya - zero, for Cherechnya, probably two people in total, for Lukashenko I have three people in total. Everything, everyone else - for Tikhanovskaya.
                        All the rest! Generally! And these people accuse Lukashenka of forgeries.
                      23. +1
                        16 October 2020 11: 44
                        What turned you on so much ????
                      24. 0
                        16 October 2020 15: 10
                        Quote: www3
                        what turned you on so

                        That is, with the fact that these records are lies, you do not argue.
                      25. +1
                        15 October 2020 22: 02
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: www3
                        don't go to Minsk

                        So are you a racist?

                        Are you not a sadist?
                      26. +1
                        16 October 2020 06: 51
                        Quote: cmax
                        And you don't

                        No and you?
                      27. +1
                        16 October 2020 11: 33
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: cmax
                        And you don't

                        No and you?

                        In any case, I am an adequate person, unlike you. We have people like you called Yabatka.
                      28. 0
                        16 October 2020 15: 06
                        Quote: cmax
                        Anyway, I'm an adequate person

                        True? That is, just a traitor.
                      29. +1
                        16 October 2020 17: 17
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: cmax
                        Anyway, I'm an adequate person

                        True? That is, just a traitor.

                        Okay, so be it. It's better than being a clown and talking smartly about what you have no idea about, even has a bunch of sources on the Internet. In the head stamps are red, white.
                      30. 0
                        16 October 2020 20: 18
                        Quote: cmax
                        It's better than being a clown and talking smartly about what you have no idea about, even has a bunch of sources on the Internet.

                        And only those who work for our partners?
                      31. +1
                        17 October 2020 18: 21
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: cmax
                        It's better than being a clown and talking smartly about what you have no idea about, even has a bunch of sources on the Internet.

                        And only those who work for our partners?

                        You know, after a while Russia will face the same! When the power does not change for a long time, it loses its scent, sharpness of perception and it turns out what it turns out. A deputy or a minister who has several Mercedes in the garage will never understand the problems of a teacher who has a salary in the region of 13000-15000 rubles or a driver who pours gasoline for 45-48 rubles in a country with the richest oil reserves in the world. And this is a problem, a big problem, and it is growing in Russia. So something like this
                      32. -1
                        17 October 2020 20: 30
                        Quote: cmax
                        You know, after a while Russia will have the same thing!

                        Our partners have been dreaming about 15 years already, but it just doesn't work out.
                      33. +1
                        15 October 2020 17: 08
                        Quote: www3
                        where is the threat to employees in this video

                        When, during a collision with the use of weapons, someone rushes at employees, then this is his problem.
                      34. +1
                        15 October 2020 19: 11
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: www3
                        where is the threat to employees in this video

                        When, during a collision with the use of weapons, someone rushes at employees, then this is his problem.

                        the use of weapons from whose side ???
                        so why then, I suggest that all the police issue grenade launchers, came to a call to a home scadal, a grenade in the door and silence!
                      35. +1
                        15 October 2020 19: 29
                        Quote: www3
                        use of weapons on whose side

                        That is, you don't dispute the fact that this ...
                        Some of the recordings show that they are throwing something at the police, so, again, there was no need to ask for trouble.
                      36. +1
                        15 October 2020 19: 31
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: www3
                        use of weapons on whose side

                        That is, you don't dispute the fact that this ...
                        Some of the recordings show that they are throwing something at the police, so, again, there was no need to ask for trouble.

                        what does it mean to get into trouble ?? he walked on them with a stick?
                        then everyone who approaches the militia must first hit in the face, and then ask - why did he get it?
                      37. +2
                        15 October 2020 19: 35
                        Quote: www3
                        what does it mean to get into trouble ?? he

                        lane to police officers who operated in the area of ​​street riots. This is called asking for trouble.
                        Quote: www3
                        then everyone who approaches the police should be

                        In such conditions, at least.
                      38. +1
                        15 October 2020 19: 38
                        so what then it was necessary to waste time on trifles for the whole area, to throw off the bonbu.
                      39. -1
                        15 October 2020 19: 51
                        Quote: www3
                        so why was it necessary to waste time on trifles?

                        At the moment, this is firing a cannon at sparrows, but if you collect all the violent ones on an analogue of the Maidan, then there are options, although tank tracks will also work.
                      40. 0
                        17 October 2020 17: 08
                        Quote: www3
                        so why then, I suggest that all the police issue grenade launchers, came to a call to a home scadal, a grenade in the door and silence!

                        Is it Lukashenka or something Polpot ??? where is he to you laughing
                      41. +1
                        15 October 2020 17: 03
                        Quote: www3
                        and please note that people are not suspected of committing criminal offenses, but all that

                        attempted coup.
                      42. +3
                        15 October 2020 19: 03
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: www3
                        and please note that people are not suspected of committing criminal offenses, but all that

                        attempted coup.


                        strange, I thought that the state coup is a criminal code, but everyone is judged by a coap.
                      43. 0
                        15 October 2020 19: 27
                        Quote: www3
                        and everyone is judged by a coap

                        And this is about the "bloody regime".
                      44. +2
                        15 October 2020 14: 10
                        Police law !?
                        Bring the point where it is possible to use masks anonymously, without a uniform and in cars without numbers, drive and beat, even grab people at the administrative office? Waiting
                      45. -2
                        15 October 2020 14: 16
                        in their parallel universe it is possible, it’s so tight.
                      46. 0
                        15 October 2020 23: 21
                        there are also internal instructions and orders. wear masks because, as some smart people wrote above, they are already burning cars and houses of employees. and soon they may begin to kill their children out of revenge. with these will become. if they did not accept attempts to hide their identity, it would have already started en masse. you started to humiliate and mock their relatives at first. they protect their families first of all by this. it's strange not to understand
                      47. +1
                        16 October 2020 00: 21
                        Internal instructions contrary to the law Illegal!
                        This is the alpha and omega of the law, otherwise the constitution and everything that follows can simply not give a damn !!!
                      48. -3
                        16 October 2020 01: 44
                        so go to COURT! and not in crowds under incomprehensible flags under the direction of the telegrams of the channels and the aunt who stupidly ran away from her duty as a leader !!!
                      49. +4
                        16 October 2020 10: 59
                        Go to the courts?
                        It's funny))
                        A sensible proposal, especially if the court is controlled by your opponent
                      50. +3
                        16 October 2020 01: 21
                        Quote: Revival
                        Bring the point where it is possible to use masks anonymously, without a uniform and in cars without license plates, drive and beat, grab people for the administrative office even

                        And also to speak anonymously in court, which lasts five whole minutes.
                      51. +3
                        15 October 2020 21: 43
                        Our zmagars, like Odessa thieves in the series "Liquidation", require compliance with the law only in relation to themselves. They themselves do not consider it necessary to observe it. They are for all good against all bad. Here in our vehicle, this rabble hung a flag on the fire escape. The vehicle was imposed a heavy fine for violation of fire safety rules. Do you think these activists took on some trouble? Svetka will give them all the same. Shchazzz! They wanted to spit on everyone. And according to the law, you can't do anything with them, since there is no direct evidence. And the chairman, at the expense of all tenants, is engaged in litigation, pays duties, goes around the court. And all this money goes to the vehicle. He has nothing else to do. And these utyrkam though henna. They create the atmosphere in the courtyard and post videos on here.by (the same garbage can).
                      52. -3
                        15 October 2020 23: 26
                        I completely agree with you, on this bai our incredible well, just exceptionally peaceful, sing in chorus the magutny of God and the trap charapakh
                      53. +3
                        16 October 2020 00: 27
                        "Here in our vehicle, this rabble hung a flag on the fire escape. The vehicle has been imposed a heavy fine for violating fire safety rules."

                        So here everything is simple, you are just helpless in relation to both of them!)) Write further ...

                        You are like a peasant and a knight in medieval france!
                        But the element is nevertheless necessary for everyone, O.

                        Write complaints, one about those others about these, well, according to the situation, you know.
                      54. +1
                        16 October 2020 07: 15
                        Helpless, of course. Because I am a sane man in the street, like many others. And this is a mixture of organized crime groups and sects that are run by professionals, created using special technologies. And with such organized criminal groups, either another organized criminal group or the state can fight. The state is fighting, therefore it is also the enemy of the zmagarei. And somehow I don’t want to create an organized criminal group, and I don’t know how.
                      55. -2
                        16 October 2020 06: 52
                        Quote: g_ae
                        Our zmagars, like Odessa thieves in the series "Liquidation", require compliance with the law only in relation to themselves.

                        As always.
                      56. 0
                        16 October 2020 20: 14
                        Quote: g_ae
                        Our zmagars, like Odessa thieves in the series "Liquidation", require compliance with the law only in relation to themselves. They themselves do not consider it necessary to observe it. They are for all good against all bad. Here in our vehicle, this rabble hung a flag on the fire escape. The vehicle was imposed a heavy fine for violation of fire safety rules. Do you think these activists took on some trouble? Svetka will give them all the same. Shchazzz! They wanted to spit on everyone. And according to the law, you can't do anything with them, since there is no direct evidence. And the chairman, at the expense of all tenants, is engaged in litigation, pays duties, goes around the court. And all this money goes to the vehicle. He has nothing else to do. And these utyrkam though henna. They create the atmosphere in the courtyard and post videos on here.by (the same garbage can).

                        But people like you, not utyrki with "clean hands and a warm heart", balaclavas on their faces and clubs in their hands, prove the advantage of living in Belarusian Korea. Have you even read the constitution of the country who is in charge in the country - the people electing the president or the president who, together with one grandmother, drew 85%.
                        1.Where are independent sociologists at the exit from polling stations,
                        2. Where are the independent observers at the polling stations.
                        3. Where are the hundreds of people who have applied for participation in election commissions, but who, I emphasize, not a single one were allowed there.
                        4. Where did the early voting of 40% come from, which was so little written?
                        5. Why was not a single observer allowed after the vote to count the results?
                        5. Why did they not post the results protocols after the elections at the polling stations (although it is required by law)
                        And so on and the like can be continued indefinitely. Where is your 85% on the street, at least once would be shown. Sharpie, you and who you like in power, the current one. Yes, they are zmagars and who are you. Yabatka!
                      57. 0
                        16 October 2020 20: 56
                        Yes, I don't give a damn about the elections! I'm not interested in these percentages. Take your slippers and go prove it. I don't need to prove anything. You are 97%. Slippers in the teeth and forward to the Drozdy. With a flag and a drum, all brothers in mind. ... Lukashenka does not live in our house. But I remember very well the film "Heart of a Dog" and how the professor spoke about such "activists" and singers. Harsh years are like. The house is lost if such figures are turned on. Like head lice. So far, I'm only demonstrating stupidity. This is such a strategy, probably the stupidity of Lukashenka to win a hundred times more stupidity. This weight is our zmagarstvo.
                      58. -1
                        16 October 2020 21: 27
                        You can at least draw a red stripe on your butt and show it to passers-by from balconies and drivers along the roads. And they will beep. The creative will be. Although 26 may be so. But only at your own expense. I don't want to pay for this festival of creativity and stupidity. Svetka threatens to pay you for the banquet.
                      59. +1
                        17 October 2020 17: 00
                        Quote: g_ae
                        You can at least draw a red stripe on your butt and show it to passers-by from balconies and drivers along the roads. And they will beep. The creative will be. Although 26 may be so. But only at your own expense. I don't want to pay for this festival of creativity and stupidity. Svetka threatens to pay you for the banquet.

                        It is clear, you think that with your multi-vector you will have a bright future ahead. It seems to me that something like North Korea is waiting for you and people like you, the economy is falling even without demonstrations, the cat cried out for foreign exchange reserves (a measly 6 billion), external debts for more than 18 billion (with domestic for 24 billion dollars), stocks of unsold goods (which nobody needs) from 3 to 8 months of production, young people are leaving your paradise, GDP has been standing still for 10 years, about a salary of $ 500. also squeals for ten years at every meeting with the press. Your MAZ (15000 people) over the past year (a whole year) brought in profits as much as 20 million rubles ... 9 million dollars. This is a victory !!! I can add about MTZ, woodworking, construction, etc. This is the price of leadership for 26 years of indefatigable leadership. Thank you mother Russia helps us out with oil and gas, otherwise ........ So, you can get on your ass even (as you write) office. It will not help you to draw a flag and show it to you. A few more years of such victories in the economy and wake up asking for alms like Kisa Vorobyaninov.
                      60. -1
                        17 October 2020 17: 45
                        I think that many will disagree with you. For example, here is the opinion of an independent expert.
                      61. +1
                        17 October 2020 18: 03
                        Quote: g_ae
                        I think that many will disagree with you. For example, here is the opinion of an independent expert.

                        Everyone sees what he wants to see. I see other people who love Belarus and want it to be better here. I am amazed at you, do you really have no self-criticism. You see, you cannot help but see that the AHL has established a cult of personal power based on fear, threats, rudeness. The economy is falling and will continue to fall, no one in the country listens to economists, advisers, analysts. You probably have children, maybe grandchildren, what awaits them in this country further. If the country's constitution is the main law, why the presidential decrees are higher than the constitution. Why is the head of the Central Election Commission appointed by the president and how he can remain independent during elections. The judicial system is right who has more rights. Where are professionals in their fields, yes, I forgot they were replaced by ideologically verified personalities. But these are not professionals. You know the real state of the economy, maybe your feeder is better supplied. Then of course. I have relatives in Novogrudok - their food is 350 rubles. Will you live on this money? Well, everything will end as you want, it will be better in the country - we will continue to watch reports from the cowsheds, listen to advice on how best to harvest potatoes.
                      62. -1
                        17 October 2020 18: 23
                        I see everything. I just do not understand how this shobla, who saddled the protest, and lives and works for foreign money (they don’t hide it) will do something worthwhile for the country. Who pays for the girl, he and that ... dances. President Svetka cannot but understand this, and if he understands, then such a chicken is needed. Teleprompter to read? And it is all the more incomprehensible why I have to pay for someone's political activity. Here zmagaram and violated my right.
                        And then about Kisa Vorobyaninov. And who now dissects abroad and puffs out his cheeks? A whole kagal of brothers and sisters in mind.
                      63. +1
                        17 October 2020 18: 31
                        Quote: g_ae
                        I see everything. I just do not understand how this shobla, who saddled the protest, and lives and works for foreign money (they don’t hide it) will do something worthwhile for the country. Who pays for the girl, he and that ... dances. President Svetka cannot but understand this, and if he understands, then such a chicken is needed. Teleprompter to read? And it is all the more incomprehensible why I have to pay for someone's political activity. Here zmagaram and violated my right.

                        Who brought Svetlana to the polls - you or me. You know the answer. Someone had to be smarter. Although it was clear from the situation who would win the elections with a fair vote. For me, Svetlana is not an ideal, HEXTA is not an ideal at all, but I would like the votes to be considered honest, and not Mr. Yermoshina! If I would honestly win the AHL - it means that it is so, I did not win - he is one citizen out of 9000000 people, there is a decent person. My acquaintances and neighbors also go to rallies; they receive nothing from anyone.
                      64. -1
                        17 October 2020 18: 49
                        I repeat for the last time. I respect your civic position (or rather, I absolutely don't care). Walk and protest even until you blue in the face, if you have enough health. But I do not want to forcibly pay for your or those like you political activity. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. And I don’t need to wrap up about global injustice. Not convincing.
                      65. +1
                        17 October 2020 19: 01
                        Quote: g_ae
                        I repeat for the last time. I respect your civic position (or rather, I absolutely don't care). Walk and protest even until you blue in the face, if you have enough health. But I do not want to forcibly pay for your or those like you political activity. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. And I don’t need to wrap up about global injustice. Not convincing.

                        There are not many of you, otherwise we would have seen you on the street. And I do not want to pay for all the residences of the AHL and his Wishlist, trips for "negotiations" to the emirates for 2 weeks with a whole code, his planes, allegedly donated cars, etc. Weapons, riot police cars, their batons, gas, their apartments, salaries. I don’t want to pay for the services of the DANA holding, the services of any sheikhs with mythical billions, the allocation of land to all his friends (Gutsiriev, for example) I don’t want to pay for delusional modernizations that are not supported by the calculations of professionals (they run around then don’t know where to sell sugar, plywood, potassium salts , for example).
                        This concludes. When it becomes bad, the relocator runs out of money for you - write. In essence, you did not answer anything either to the elections or to everything else. The main thing was that they took money from you in the partnership. They've been taking it from us for 26 years now.
                      66. 0
                        17 October 2020 17: 18
                        Quote: g_ae
                        You are 97%. Slippers in the teeth and forward to the Drozdy.

                        non-cheaters can’t ... they don’t even get 10%. it's all of them from non-cheating about "all the people" are being driven! purely reflexively laughing
                      67. 0
                        17 October 2020 17: 16
                        Quote: cmax
                        And so on and the like can be continued indefinitely. Where is your 85% on the street, at least once would be shown. Sharpie, you and who you like in power, the current one. Yes, they are zmagars and who are you. Yabatka!

                        hey "neshuler", if you are there all for justice, then start from the beginning, with the first false referendum for secession. come on, demand fair zeroing. Or are you here for justice, but not there? well, non-cheater? wink
                      68. +2
                        17 October 2020 19: 08
                        SanichSan I would be glad, but the peresedent will not allow. For 26 years he liked to lead, he is his own boss. You see how it rests, says - I am irreplaceable! Personally, I am for unification (I wrote this before), my wife is a Russian woman, the eldest daughter in Novosibirsk. Therefore, you correctly noted - I am a non-cheater!
                2. +2
                  15 October 2020 11: 42
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  and what any methods did Lukashenka use? drove protesters to the stadium and their corpses are loaded there in stacks? you are now trying to compare a hedgehog with a carrot and it does not work out well for you. as far as fabricated, you just need to prove it first and then protest and not vice versa.

                  And how do you prove if the ballots are destroyed? And that it was not Lukashenka who transplanted all the presidential candidates? And people are not beaten in the pre-trial detention center? It is possible to prove falsification if the elections are held under the control of independent observers with the control of the counting of votes. By the way, 3 dead and dozens of missing do not care. they themselves are to blame
                  1. -1
                    15 October 2020 11: 45
                    Quote: Pilat2009
                    it is possible to prove falsifications if elections are held under the control of independent observers

                    From another planet or what? This is not a joke, because any others will be very addicted.
                    1. +2
                      15 October 2020 14: 08
                      Why did Lukashenka destroy the bellutes that prove his victory !?
                      1. 0
                        15 October 2020 16: 54
                        Quote: Revival
                        Why Lukashenka destroyed Belluteni

                        According to the opposition.
                        However, do not argue with the fact that any observers will be on someone's side.
                      2. +2
                        15 October 2020 19: 13
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: Revival
                        Why Lukashenka destroyed Belluteni

                        According to the opposition.
                        However, do not argue with the fact that any observers will be on someone's side.

                        and the observer should be on whose side ????
                        the observer's task is to fix violations !!!!!
                      3. -3
                        15 October 2020 19: 30
                        Quote: www3
                        and the observer must be on someone's side

                        What planet are you from?
                        Quote: www3
                        the observer's task is to record violations

                        If people were what they should be, then we would live under communism.
                      4. +4
                        15 October 2020 19: 35
                        it looks like you have some kind of parallel reality.
                        Tsiku was offered to be hung on camera sites, and at their own expense!
                        but something cyc, this idea was not very pleasant.
                      5. -3
                        15 October 2020 19: 41
                        Quote: www3
                        it looks like you have some kind of parallel reality

                        That you are self-critical.
                        Quote: www3
                        Tsiku was offered to be hung on camera sites, and at their own expense!

                        That is, it is not clear who puts some cameras and this is the legality of which you are so advocating? By the way, not even in all areas.
                      6. +4
                        15 October 2020 19: 44
                        Well, yes, they are such cameras ... should only be ideologically correct and from the right supplier. and then you understand, they hang cameras, and they suddenly start showing the wrong picture!
                        no greatradak!
                      7. -2
                        15 October 2020 19: 47
                        Quote: www3
                        well, yes, they are cameras ... they should only be ideologically correct and from the right supplier

                        If elections are equipped with observation devices, this is done centrally, throughout the country and under the control of the CEC.
                      8. +3
                        15 October 2020 20: 03
                        for those who are in the tank - it was proposed to equip all areas !!!!!
                        but the cycle answered - days are dumb!
                      9. 0
                        16 October 2020 06: 57
                        Quote: www3
                        for those in the tank

                        The Central Election Commission of Belarus was offered to allow the installation of cameras at polling stations at the expense of Belarusians who express such a wish.
                        Read more: https://news.tut.by/economics/695057.html
                        Do you even know what you are writing about?
                      10. 0
                        17 October 2020 17: 24
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Do you even know what you are writing about?

                        not laughing he is not paid 5 euros for "thinking" laughing
                      11. +1
                        17 October 2020 17: 23
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        If elections are equipped with observation devices, this is done centrally, throughout the country and under the control of the CEC.

                        do not make me laugh laughing over there in Russia, plots are equipped with cameras, so what? just here one was telling a tearful story about carousels. Of course, no facts, but it once bothered them? never!
                      12. 0
                        17 October 2020 17: 59
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        Of course, no facts, but it once bothered them? never!

                        I explain to the next smart guy that in any business there must be order, suddenly something will be deposited in my head.
                      13. +2
                        16 October 2020 00: 31
                        That is, the cameras are biased, will they lie, even when two different observers look into one screen?
                        Well, it's clear, it's clear with you ...
                      14. +1
                        15 October 2020 19: 32
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: Revival
                        Why Lukashenka destroyed Belluteni

                        According to the opposition.

                        so Lukashenka won the elections on his own statements!
                      15. -1
                        15 October 2020 19: 36
                        Quote: www3
                        so Lukashenka won the elections on his own statements!

                        So what are you unhappy with?
                      16. +2
                        15 October 2020 19: 40
                        so you are outraged by the protests!
                      17. -2
                        15 October 2020 19: 48
                        Quote: www3
                        resent the protests

                        So you started to protest, without knowing why.
                      18. +4
                        16 October 2020 00: 36
                        And we are dissatisfied, as we will draw that in the basis only that in the basis only our own biased statements!
                        BUT!
                        And since your own statements are, by definition, the bottom, then they are the bottom the same for all parties, in fairness! So? So!
                        Then you need a third-party expertise, here.
                        So why are the cameras scared?
                        A, clear.
                        You at least read the rf gpk, for example, the party evading the examination, providing materials for its conduct, etc., is warned that the court has the right to recognize the conclusions not in its favor! Oh, how, objectively!
                      19. +2
                        16 October 2020 00: 09
                        What is the opposition's statement? This is official information, do not pierce the bottom in your distortion!
                        And do not be ridiculous about biased observers, a commission with an equal number of votes and machine counting is sufficient for a convincing result and knocking out the lion's share of counter-arguments
                      20. -1
                        16 October 2020 07: 04
                        Quote: Revival
                        And do not be ridiculous about biased observers, a commission with an equal number of votes and machine counting is sufficient for a convincing result and knocking out the lion's share of counter-arguments

                        And in Russian?
                        Quote: Revival
                        This is official information, do not break the bottom in your distortion

                        I've inquired, but found only links to the opposition. And, by the way, the destruction of paper is easily and naturally carried out with special office equipment, and with a guarantee of the result, which the opposition is not aware of.
                  2. -2
                    15 October 2020 12: 34
                    exactly ... but you can also like Tikhanovskaya. run around Europe and just tell everyone that she won. they generally take her word for it) to beat her does not mean torture. these are essentially different things. you practically say that your security forces are sadists and just for fun they do it. and they can give in the face in any jail in the world. I do not believe people who follow a housewife running away from the country she wants to lead and who are controlled by a pancake channel on a cart, registered in Poland. Belarus is not a stranger to me and I don’t want it to be red and white.
                    1. +1
                      15 October 2020 13: 07
                      Quote: carstorm 11
                      to beat is not to torture. these are essentially different things. you practically say that your security forces are sadists and just for fun they do it. and they can give in the face in any jail in the world. I do not believe people who follow a housewife running away from the country she wants to lead and who are controlled by a pancake channel on a cart, registered in Poland. Belarus is not a stranger to me and I don’t want it to be red and white.


                      to give in the face during the arrest, not a question, BUT to bruise people in IVS is too much!
                      After the recent events, I do not even have doubts about the stories that the truncheons were thrust into people "where in where."
                      1. 0
                        15 October 2020 13: 17
                        I'm not asking you to stop believing) this is your business and your right. like mine not to take this nonsense seriously.
                      2. +4
                        15 October 2020 13: 24
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        I'm not asking you to stop believing) this is your business and your right. like mine not to take this nonsense seriously.

                        the question is not whether you believe it or not! the question is - why project publicly your faith while being hundreds of kilometers from Minsk and watching Skabeev and Solovov and others like them on TV?
                        and call information from people living in Belarus nonsense. I can assure you - Belarus is a small village where everything becomes very well known, of course, passing through a few hands, the information is embellished, but ...
                      3. -1
                        15 October 2020 13: 32
                        I didn't go this year because of quarantine. and so at least twice a year I go to Gomel and Minsk. in the spring, when the chestnuts are blooming, and from Spartacus you can sit on a bench or just take a walk. my mother has three sisters and a brother. my father has two brothers, all from there. mom from Besyad if you know what kind of village it is. I took my father there and buried him next to my grandfather and brother. so no need to tell me something.
                      4. +1
                        15 October 2020 13: 38
                        that's bad luck, but I live in Minsk all the time))
                      5. +2
                        15 October 2020 13: 44
                        I'm happy for you. does it somehow change the fact that I have enough information and opportunities to get it? that the crowd of my relatives do not agree with you. and everything that happens annoys them. Well, you protest if you want. I personally do not interfere with this. get a red and white flag if you ride. litvinize. in short, whatever your heart desires.
                      6. +1
                        15 October 2020 13: 55
                        there is a kind of collective unconscious opinion, and it is always on the side of truth and justice - this is the opinion of the people. on which side it will swing - that will win. history clearly shows this. that's why you can't ignore the people - you can end your life on the scaffold.
                      7. +4
                        15 October 2020 14: 05
                        Yes of course. Tikhanovskaya is truth and justice for Belarus) with a manifesto from her comrades-in-arms that everyone saw) forward and with a song.
                      8. 0
                        15 October 2020 17: 10
                        Quote: www3
                        there is a kind of collective unconscious opinion, and it is always on the side of truth and justice - this is the opinion of the people

                        Has the mysticism gone already? What's next?
                      9. -1
                        17 October 2020 17: 36
                        Quote: www3
                        the question is not whether you believe it or not! the question is - why project publicly your faith while being hundreds of kilometers from Minsk and watching Skabeev and Solovov and others like them on TV?

                        olo face wincheg !!! are you not lost ??? it's you here on the Russian site, not us on your fraudulent opposition Polish! and why Minsk with a little one? the trolls have completely lost their shame!
                        Quote: www3
                        and call information from people living in Belarus nonsense. I can assure you - Belarus is a small village where everything becomes very well known, of course, passing through a few hands, the information is embellished, but ...

                        living in Бeelorussia, ukrainian shameless! with a capital letter. with a little you will write your Ukraine.
                    2. +3
                      15 October 2020 14: 34
                      Who should care if you or I want a hundred?
                      Only Belarusians can decide this for themselves. Right or wrong
                      1. +1
                        15 October 2020 14: 36
                        but this does not prevent me or you from having your own opinion on what is happening?)
                  3. 0
                    17 October 2020 17: 20
                    Quote: Pilat2009
                    it is possible to prove falsifications if elections are held under the control of independent observers with control over the counting of votes.

                    independent, is it from the EU that openly and financially supports the unrest? belay
                3. +3
                  15 October 2020 12: 12
                  so in the Armed Forces provided evidence with falsification of as many as 25 volumes !!!
                  and what do you think the sun answered ???
                  independent observers were taken away from the polling stations for a day.
                  and the coolest thing is, when the votes for the nomination of presidential candidates were counted, some of them got more than they collected themselves))
                  and they could not even clearly explain how it happened))
                4. +2
                  15 October 2020 22: 00
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  and what any methods did Lukashenka use? drove protesters to the stadium and their corpses are loaded there in stacks? you are now trying to compare a hedgehog with a carrot and it does not work out well for you. as far as fabricated, you just need to prove it first and then protest and not vice versa.
                  How stubborn you are however. Here are people in the thousands and take to the streets to prove it. As for the stadium, if it were around 1970, you would have had a stadium packed with people from the AHL. He's in trouble, the digital age has come with smartphones. You have to control yourself a little.
                  1. -1
                    17 October 2020 17: 39
                    Quote: cmax
                    Here are people in the thousands and go out into the streets to prove it.

                    all two three? in Belarus?
                    1. +1
                      17 October 2020 17: 40
                      Quote: SanichSan
                      Quote: cmax
                      Here are people in the thousands and go out into the streets to prove it.

                      all two three? in Belarus?

                      I didn't quite understand what you wanted to say by that!
                      1. 0
                        17 October 2020 17: 46
                        Are you trying to create the appearance of a mass protest here or what? so it was much less than in France 2 years came out and what? going out and going out. what of this insignificant minority other than concern for others?
              2. +6
                15 October 2020 08: 34
                Quote: Pilat2009
                if Lukashenka fabricated the election results, then he also committed unconstitutional actions. Or, more simply, a crime

                The keyword "if". No one has yet been able to prove this, and in the absence of evidence, "casting a shadow over the fence" is a typical method of propaganda, not politics.
                1. +1
                  15 October 2020 14: 37
                  The key word "why?"
                  Why did the Sun ignore the evidence presented, why the observers, including were not allowed to the polling stations, were even arrested?
                  So that Lukashenka’s victory isn’t registered !?
                2. +1
                  16 October 2020 14: 36
                  And where is the evidence that the protesters are "Sorosets", "Fosterlings of the West", "unemployed paid idlers"? Isn't this propaganda?
                3. +1
                  16 October 2020 18: 42
                  https://news.tut.by/society/704206.html
                  Audio recording of the conversation of the MAZ election commission members.
            2. +3
              15 October 2020 10: 55
              Dmitry, I actually compared Lukashenko with Allende, but not with Pinochet.
              It was President Allende who defended his palace with a machine gun, and the multi-vector one ponted behind the backs of the troops with AKSuha.
        2. +2
          15 October 2020 13: 29
          And why is the election of oneself imprisoning all others not a "coup"?
      2. +5
        15 October 2020 06: 33
        Michael: You don't know Chile well. There are also growing protests. And you shouldn't praise this bastard. He was tried. But they treated him very gently. What did the common people get from his dictatorship? Absolutely nothing.
        1. -5
          15 October 2020 06: 56
          Quote: nikvic46
          Michael: You don't know Chile well. There are also growing protests. And you shouldn't praise this bastard. He was tried. But they treated him very gently. What did the common people get from his dictatorship? Absolutely nothing.

          Well, you did not understand my sarcasm. In Chile, thousands of people went missing, thousands were imprisoned because they disagreed. The regime existed for 20 years. Then a comrade calls on to beat with sticks from the heart, apparently loves his and the Belarusian people
          1. +12
            15 October 2020 07: 25
            where have you seen the calls? sorry, but only you are responsible for your fantasies. as for thrashing there are hundreds of corpses? otherwise, in Kiev, the police and riot police just stood there and there were a hundred corpses organized. is it better in your opinion? we just have two examples. in one, the inaction of the security forces and a mountain of corpses in the other gave in the ass and there are a hundred times less of them. in my opinion the answer is quite obvious even statistically.
      3. -3
        16 October 2020 02: 11
        Learn history Michael. Pinochet, albeit harshly, put things in order and raised the economy of Chile with his reforms, which Allende was destroying with his toothless demopolitics and fear of offending anyone.
  3. +16
    15 October 2020 05: 33
    This is completely normal, because those at the top of the food chain don't need protest.
    Absolutely all countries of the World are suitable for this ideology of protest, so there is no need for an unhealthy excitement around Belarus, the States and France were shocked and everyone calmed down, neither Macron nor Trump resigned, so Old Man will remain in his place, order in the state will establish him duty, who would not want and say what.
  4. 0
    15 October 2020 05: 35
    Yeah, Putin promised, but to pay for everything to the people of Russia. This is a protest for the sake of protest, Lukashenka leave, and who will come? The West is moving its Tikhanovskaya, it turns out they are for her and the protest is purely pro-Western.
  5. +15
    15 October 2020 05: 38
    I look at the protestors ... everyone is well fed, shod, dressed ... there are no emaciated faces worn out by the damned Lukashenka regime and the money is for protests from somewhere ... Comrade Lukashenko is not working well ... introduce your people to all levels of protestants from from the bottom to the top .... they must lead the protests in the key necessary for the authorities.
    It is better to manage the opposition's protest by yourself than to be swept away by this opposition.
    Specialists of the orange revolutions from the United States have mastered this technology to perfection ... Comrade Skomorokhov will not let you lie.
    1. -8
      15 October 2020 05: 42
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      everyone is well fed

      Lech, how do you know?
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      shod, dressed

      Yes, there is even a loot for muzzles. fellow
      1. +11
        15 October 2020 05: 47
        everyone is well fed

        Lech, how do you know?

        Well, Vladimir, judge for yourself ... to run in ranks of protestors for hours in cold weather and then fight with the Belarusian riot police ... there is no place for weaklings ... you can't do this on an empty stomach. smile
        Therefore, I am absolutely sure that in the crowd of these protestors you can find many guests from Poland and Ukraine who have considerable experience of such illegal actions.
        1. -2
          15 October 2020 05: 50
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          to run for hours in ranks of protestors and then even fight with the Belarusian riot police ... there is no place for weaklings ... you cannot do this on an empty stomach.

          And when the Muscovites overthrew the GKChP, their shops were really empty. crying
          1. -1
            15 October 2020 05: 52
            And when the Muscovites overthrew the GKChP, their shops were really empty.

            Well, they were running around with bags and string bags ... each loaf of bread and kusman sausages with a bottle of kefir .... there were times when you remember so you shudder.
            1. -1
              15 October 2020 05: 57
              Quote: The same LYOKHA
              there were times as you remember, you shudder.

              Once I went to a dairy store, and there was no milk or butter, Alenka's chocolate was spread out on all the counters. Here I was neighing. By the way, I know of one type, he applied to the registry office to get two boxes of vodka in the salon of the newlyweds.
        2. +6
          15 October 2020 05: 56
          I also think that this is a purely pro-Western protest.
          1. +5
            15 October 2020 08: 08
            Quote: Pessimist22
            I also think that this is a purely pro-Western protest.

            That's right, I support your opinion. We all remember how they bombed Yugoslavia, what kind of massacre there was, Ukraine did not have to be persuaded for a long time, Georgia and Armenia were taken on their Caucasian mentality, then in Belarus they have already followed a more advanced path "Method of nonviolent resistance". International imperialism is learning from its mistakes, and so far it succeeds.
        3. -2
          15 October 2020 05: 57
          Do you think that EVERYTHING in the square is for money?
          1. -1
            15 October 2020 06: 02
            Do you think that EVERYTHING in the square is for money?

            Well, if we count in percentage terms, let's first break down the chain of protestors in detail and look at each link separately, starting from the leaders of the protests and ending with an individual citizen of Belarus ... I'm sure we'll see an amazing picture ... if we look at this whole section under a magnifying glass.
            1. -7
              15 October 2020 06: 31
              Well, if we count in percentage terms, let's first break down the chain of protestors in detail and look at each link separately, starting from the leaders of the protests and ending with an individual citizen of Belarus ... I'm sure we'll see an amazing picture ... if we look at this whole section under a magnifying glass.


              What intricate fantasies you have. Only there is no evidence and will not be. So blah blah.
              But the beefy ghouls in masks are worth a look. The modest ones probably hide their faces, they don't want the people to torture them with gratitude. Something Soviet militiamen did not have masks. It is curious to look at Aniskin in a mask and with a baton. Maybe because the people were defended and proud of it? And not money for the blood of citizens. Rosgvardia will soon have to form a native division; Riga riot police, Ukrainian golden eagle, now Minsk riot police.
              1. -2
                15 October 2020 06: 45
                What intricate fantasies you have. Only there is no evidence and will not be.

                Under Comrade Stalin, I would quickly find you evidence ... and there would be witnesses, and I would organize a show trial at all levels of government ... it’s too bad everything is neglected there ... the opposition has completely lost its fear.
                And under the current government, all that remains is to fantasize.
              2. +5
                15 October 2020 06: 52
                Quote: Deck
                Something Soviet militiamen did not have masks.

                And what does the police have to do with it? In the USSR, these "lovers of freedom" would be dealt with by the NKVD, and in such a way that the Belarusian militia can only be envious.
                1. 0
                  15 October 2020 13: 34
                  And what was the NKVD hiding in masks?
                  1. -1
                    15 October 2020 16: 50
                    Quote: Revival
                    And that the NKVD was hiding in masks

                    They worked in such a way that from the mere mention of them, the fans of democracy knocked out their teeth with a tap. And if they got down to business now, the riots would have ended in a week, along with the dissatisfied.
                    1. +1
                      16 October 2020 00: 00
                      So I ask, are they wearing masks or not, or were they hiding in fear?
                      1. -1
                        16 October 2020 07: 05
                        Quote: Revival
                        So I ask, masked or not
                        And I answer
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        And if they got down to business now, the riots would have ended in a week, along with the dissatisfied.
                      2. 0
                        16 October 2020 13: 06
                        Is your chtoli stuck?
                        I ask whether they were hiding in masks cowardly or not?
                      3. -1
                        16 October 2020 15: 06
                        Quote: Revival
                        Is your chtoli stuck?

                        Self-critical.
                        Quote: Revival
                        I'm asking

                        And I answer
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        They worked in such a way that from the mere mention of them, the fans of democracy knocked out their teeth with a tap. And if they got down to business now, the riots would have ended in a week, along with the dissatisfied.
                      4. 0
                        16 October 2020 15: 20
                        Clearly, the drain is counted
                      5. -1
                        16 October 2020 15: 24
                        Quote: Revival
                        draining counted

                        The fact that you have nothing to say other than empty slogans and lies has long been known.
                      6. +1
                        16 October 2020 15: 32
                        Let's get back to the first question!

                        And what was the NKVD cowardly hiding in masks?

                        The question is straightforward, simple for you, I hope.
                        And yes, I am not asking how they worked and why and so on.
                        Master a straight answer?
                      7. -1
                        16 October 2020 16: 32
                        Quote: Revival
                        The question is straightforward, simple for you, I hope.

                        Simple answer
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        They worked in such a way that from the mere mention of them, the fans of democracy knocked out their teeth with a tap. And if they got down to business now, the riots would have ended in a week, along with the dissatisfied.

                        Quote: Revival
                        And yes, I do not ask how they worked and why, etc.

                        Of course you don’t. Because they would have sat quieter than water, below the grass and were afraid to sneeze.
                        Quote: Revival
                        cowardly

                        The representative of the cowards said, who, having made sure that the Belarusian police, faced with street riots, would neither surrender nor be alarmed, lost the desire to try to openly attack, but hope that they will be able to unleash individual terror.
                      8. 0
                        16 October 2020 18: 12
                        It is clear, the final drain is valid
                      9. 0
                        16 October 2020 20: 15
                        Quote: Revival
                        final drain

                        True eyes hurts?
              3. 0
                15 October 2020 09: 00
                There is a lot of evidence, when all tears let their eyes on the camera, when they are taken by their asses and asked to tell on camera about the causes of the riots. As a rule, they mumble that they don't know how it happened ... just like on TV3, in a stupid third-rate series about sorcerers
                1. +3
                  15 October 2020 09: 40
                  all tears let their eyes float on the camera,


                  And he says that a plastic cup fell nearby, he had a nervous breakdown and urgently needed a medal and an apartment!
                  1. +2
                    16 October 2020 00: 04
                    And there are also tearful videos on YouTube full of shame, they say, we are faithful and true, and we are kicked from the servants' apartments like ... ......, how is that?
                    That's how! And you will never erase it now!
                2. +5
                  15 October 2020 11: 49
                  Quote: Cottodraton
                  There is a lot of evidence, when all tears let their eyes on the camera, when they are taken by their asses and asked to tell on camera about the causes of the riots. As a rule, they mumble that they don't know how it happened ... just like on TV3, in a stupid third-rate series about sorcerers

                  Where did you see the riots? How many cars were burned and how many shops were destroyed?
              4. -2
                15 October 2020 11: 24
                Quote: Deck
                Only there is no evidence and will not be

                Money always leaves a trace ...
                1. +3
                  15 October 2020 11: 31
                  Well ?? Where is the trace left? Where are the spies and saboteurs handed out millions of dollars and barrels of cookies? It is clear that you do not know your self-esteem, you yourself do something only for money. And on the basis of your own ideas, you shit on hundreds of thousands of Belarusians. Well done!
                  1. -1
                    15 October 2020 12: 21
                    Quote: Deck
                    It is clear that you do not know your self-esteem, you yourself do something only for money. And on the basis of your own ideas, you shit on hundreds of thousands of Belarusians

                    laughing Well, the soul rushed to heaven !!! Have you touched something alive? These are the remnants of conscience, do not pay attention, money will block everything! wink
                    Quote: Deck
                    you shit on hundreds of thousands of Belarusians

                    what Che, I somehow misunderstood ... they promised millions .... they were counting on!
                    In Belarus, for an event of up to 10 people, according to Deutsche Welle calculations, you will need to pay about 31 euros, up to 100 people - about 260 euros, up to 1000 people - about 1555 euros, more than 1000 participants - more than 2590 euros. When holding actions “in places that are not classified by local executive and administrative bodies as permanent places for holding mass events,” you will have to pay one and a half times more.

                    This is one of the money traces ... for example, who pays for it?
                    IT company PandaDoc, four employees of the Minsk office of which were arrested in a criminal case of fraud, funded women's protests in Belarus

                    This is the next track ... how many more of these tracks do you want?
                    Quote: Deck
                    Good for you!

                    Yeah, Seryozha, well done! laughing
                    1. -1
                      15 October 2020 12: 54
                      IT company PandaDoc, four employees of the Minsk office of which were arrested in a criminal case of fraud, funded women's protests in Belarus


                      PandaDoc is a Belarusian company if that. And so, where are the firewood from? From Lukashenka's licks, cockerels or nightingales and kisses? Or are there any reliable sources?

                      calculations of the "Deutsche Welle", you will need to pay


                      Well, how did you pay, did you not cheat?
                      You will suck something more interesting there.
                      1. +3
                        15 October 2020 13: 09
                        Quote: Deck
                        PandaDoc is a Belarusian company if that

                        what Where is the head office?
                        Quote: Deck
                        are there any reliable sources?

                        And then! Will NEXTA suit you?
                        Quote: Deck
                        Lukashenka's lynx cockerels or nightingale kisses?

                        laughing from Navalnogovnopolytsy!
                        Quote: Deck
                        You will suck something more interesting there.

                        just don't hit the wall with your head! laughing Not one revolution in the world has passed for nothing, and you are no exception! laughing
                      2. +2
                        15 October 2020 19: 25
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Not one revolution in the world has passed for nothing, and you are no exception! laughing

                        And who sponsored the Decembrists? really the State Department with Abama?))
                        and Spartacus, probably they are the same)
                      3. 0
                        16 October 2020 07: 42
                        Quote: www3
                        And who sponsored the Decembrists?

                        Russian-American company, laughing they owed her, like land to a collective farm !!!!
                        Quote: www3
                        Spartacus, they are probably the same

                        what And Spartacus made a revolution?
                      4. +1
                        16 October 2020 11: 49
                        "Spartacus, a Roman gladiator slave, led an uprising in the territory of modern Italy in the period 74 BC - 71 BC. His army, consisting of fugitive gladiators and slaves, defeated several Roman legions in a number of battles."

                        and you probably about Spartak Mishulin?
                      5. 0
                        17 October 2020 17: 57
                        so what did you do? uprising or revolution? the level of education did not reach the definition of the difference between these events? laughing
                2. +3
                  15 October 2020 12: 23
                  Quote: Serg65
                  Quote: Deck
                  Only there is no evidence and will not be

                  Money always leaves a trace ...

                  and so 3 months have passed, and there is still no trace .... pichal.
                  Only Lukashenka says with a blue eye that he personally gave Tikhanovskaya $ 15000, although it is not clear why dollars and not euros, she then left for Europe. and he took the money from the cash desk of the state enterprise. and now put her on the wanted list, probably due to the fact that she did not provide expense documents, he was in the state accounting department. enterprises will now need to report!
                  1. -5
                    15 October 2020 12: 49
                    Quote: www3
                    3 months have passed, and there is still no trace.

                    Do not flatter yourself with hopes, there is always a trace and they will definitely come for you! wink laughing
              5. -1
                15 October 2020 12: 33
                And where have you seen the protests of the Soviet people with the suppression of the police?
                What unpretentious analogies you have.
                1. +1
                  15 October 2020 13: 01
                  Quote: Vasily Zagorulko
                  And where have you seen the protests of the Soviet people with the suppression of the police?

                  Of the most famous ... 1921, the dispersal of meetings of hungry workers in Petrograd. 1962, the dispersal of rallies of hungry workers in Novocherkassk. 1981 dispersal of a demonstration of Leningrad punks on Nevsky. 1986 dispersal of a youth demonstration in Alma-Ata.
                  1. -2
                    16 October 2020 02: 30
                    You don't need to talk about Alma-Ata if you don't know. This was an action organized by several forces. The local party leaders, trying to hide the theft, Islamists from Pakistan, and of course "partners" from the CIA and other similar offices. The latter were coordinators, and the aul dumblings were brought on buses and tried to incite against the Russians. But it turned out to be a bummer - ours picked up rebar carefully cut at factories, hunting rifles and broke these seekers of "freedom from the Russians."
              6. 0
                15 October 2020 14: 39
                Quote: Deck
                Rosgvardia will soon have to form a native division; Riga riot police, Ukrainian golden eagle, now Minsk riot police.

                Quote: Deck
                What intricate fantasies you have. Only there is no evidence and will not be. So blah blah.

                Well, he himself answered his fantasy.
          2. 0
            15 October 2020 06: 17
            You carefully read my commentary, I wrote there that the protest is purely pro-Western, that is, against Russia, they want to go to Poland and the EU.
            1. -2
              15 October 2020 06: 33
              You carefully read my commentary, I wrote there that the protest is purely pro-Western, that is, against Russia, they want to go to Poland and the EU.

              Yes, I read it ... I'm just interested in the inner world of these protestors ... what they are fundamentally ... you need to understand their motives from the inside and what position they occupy in society.
              1. 0
                15 October 2020 13: 12
                Quote: The same Lech

                Yes, I read it ... I'm just interested in the inner world of these protestors ... what they are fundamentally ... you need to understand their motives from the inside and what position they occupy in society.



                https://belaruspartisan.by/life/514914/
                one of the protestors
            2. -1
              15 October 2020 12: 12
              Quote: Pessimist22
              You carefully read my commentary, I wrote there that the protest is purely pro-Western, that is, against Russia, they want to go to Poland and the EU.

              And what? Each state chooses its own path of development. After the war, eastern Europe was driven into a socialist camp, thousands of people fled from eastern Germany to the west, suppressed the uprisings in Hungary and Czechoslovakia, as a result, everyone went to the West. Probably from a good life. Now they want to go to the West. Belarusians. It is clear that Russia does not like this and it will cling to Belarus to the last. These are natural processes and cannot be changed, you cannot freeze the situation and system in a separate country. You can build an analogue of the DPRK. When it comes to you that we are doing something wrong , then the sanctions will be lifted from Russia and they will be okay. In a couple of years, Putin will become restricted to travel abroad, and maybe not only he, but the entire leadership, together with the oligarchs, and Russia will be stewing in its own juice with its outdated missiles and technologies.
              1. -2
                15 October 2020 12: 49
                Quote: Pilat2009
                When it comes to you that we are doing something wrong, then the sanctions will be lifted from Russia and will be treated normally.

                A song from the 90s.
              2. 0
                16 October 2020 02: 46
                My relatives suppressed the bloody anti-Soviet rebellion in Hungary, organized by enemy intelligence services and unfinished Hungarian fascist thugs. Eat in the Pinsk region, there are still alive those who were lucky to survive the raids of the Hungarians-punishers, next to whom the SS were just a courtyard. My 4 classmates participated in the suppression of the pro-Western and organized by Western intelligence services and local "der morat" -intelligent -student rebellion in Czechoslovakia. These .... even on May 11, 1945, they worked for the Germans, releasing weapons with which the Nazis killed our grandfathers and fathers. In 1941, Czech drivers were sitting in dozens, if not hundreds of enemy tanks. And now they felt bad! They were jealous of the su ...! In the west, the sandwiches are thicker. And away we go. Shots from around the corner, burned cars, killed soldiers and officers. OUR!!! And the criminally humane suppression is an order NOT TO SHOOT! My classmate, a paratrooper from Bolgrad, Aleksey, put this order after the Czechs shot OUR soldier from behind the bushes in the first 2 hours of his stay in Czechoslovakia in his department. Therefore, one should not hide behind fabrications of enemies of the people and simply enemies. And today the Czechs and Poles are our most notorious opponents and mongrels of the West, yapping on command and without it at Russia, at Belarus, as they used to hiss at the USSR, which saved them and helped them to their own detriment, which is unforgivable to all these "internationalists" from the Central Committee of the CPSU ...
                1. -2
                  16 October 2020 02: 48
                  I am sorry - I wanted to say: the ruling elites and intellectuals of the Czech Republic and Poland
                  1. -1
                    16 October 2020 11: 35
                    My brother served in Poland. There, at the monuments to Soviet soldiers, the Poles killed our sentries, demonstratively, slowly pulling out their weapons. And ours had an order, you can't shoot until you are shot... They killed a lot.
            3. +1
              15 October 2020 12: 28
              Quote: Pessimist22
              You carefully read my commentary, I wrote there that the protest is purely pro-Western, that is, against Russia, they want to go to Poland and the EU.


              strange, huh?
              why don't these bad Belarusians want to be scattered?
          3. +4
            15 October 2020 08: 10
            Quote: ASAD
            Do you think that EVERYTHING in the square is for money?

            Of course not, there are enough fools who will go to ruin their country for nothing. This is a repetition of the past. Or have you forgotten 1991.
          4. -3
            15 October 2020 11: 23
            Quote: ASAD
            Do you think that EVERYTHING in the square is for money?

            Well, except for a dozen violent!
        4. 0
          15 October 2020 06: 06
          Quote: The same Lech
          everyone is well fed

          Lech, how do you know?

          Well, Vladimir, judge for yourself ... to run in ranks of protestors for hours in cold weather and then fight with the Belarusian riot police ... there is no place for weaklings ... you can't do this on an empty stomach. smile
          Therefore, I am absolutely sure that in the crowd of these protestors you can find many guests from Poland and Ukraine who have considerable experience of such illegal actions.

          For some reason, there are no non-citizens of Belarus among the detainees. Otherwise, it would have been trumpeted long ago
          1. -2
            15 October 2020 06: 11
            otherwise it would have been trumpeted long ago

            This is a mystery to me ... after all, the Belarusians have a lot of relatives in these countries, and so that these relatives do not participate in epoch-making events for Belarus ... I will not believe in life ... for sure they are there.
            Moreover, Poland declared its financial and organizational support for these protests in all the hearing.
            1. +5
              15 October 2020 08: 54
              Quote: The same Lech
              otherwise it would have been trumpeted long ago

              This is a mystery to me ...

              The motivation and organization goes through the Internet, which means from anywhere on Earth. There are enough "daughters of an officer" in the world.
            2. +3
              15 October 2020 12: 31
              hi Recently communicated with by US citizens from the Belarusian diaspora(former Belarusian citizens, although many of them have kept their Belarusian passports, on occasion present them to border guards and Belarusian law enforcement officers!), who flew from America to overthrow Lukashenka, "who bored them with the people (and asked," what kind of people ?! emigre, perhaps, permanently residing in the USA ?! "- took offense at me, they say," we wish the Belarusians well, because all foreign diasporas of the non-residents of Belarus actively "rebelled against this impostor", because it was Mrs. Tikanovskaya who won, she is our president of the Republic of Belarus! " smile ) ".
              American Belarusians tried to penetrate into Belarus through Ukraine, but something "did not grow together" and these overseas "zmagars" had to turn their shafts incessantly!
              They also agitated me (it would seem that adults in the end of their lives made some capital in America, but they did not learn to think independently with their heads apart from "debit-credit" - uncritical perception and "maidan of the brain" from everyone, these are definitely whom Zhulka-Gazokradka disparagingly called "lohtorat" by the "orange-colored Maidan") with all these "non-Khtovsky" photos of the "mischievous stay of the girls" and "Zmagar" fakes about the supposedly "peaceful white-fluffy Maidan", but we who survived and "ukromaydan" surviving in the post-Maidan amerocolonial "Ukrainian life", such primitive Goebbels "tricks for children" can no longer be caught, so you did not give in! smile
              In the very about "Zmagar (already the second in a row)" Article by R. Skomorokhov, there are many false premises and comparisons, it is clearly seen that the Author has a weak, primitive and superficial idea of ​​the events in Ukraine and Belarus! Yes
              But he (a Russian with Belarusian roots ?!) clearly wants to "join" the Western "trend" of colonial "demoralization" of union Belarus, write down "the fight against the last dictator of Europe" in his career journalistic "asset" for subsequent presentation to "common people", in order to qualify for a "grant" to some thread of an NGO, well, he is not blind (you cannot see the dastardly provocations of the "zmagars" against law enforcement officers, especially at the beginning of the escalation, on the night of August 10, when more than a hundred Belarusian police officers were injured of various severity, at least four of them were dying, it is necessary to be blind and deaf, because "Nekhta" itself continuously demonstrated this night stream from the streets and squares of Minsk and other Belarusian cities almost without editing - for their own purposes, "they were winding up the emotions of the crowd", as the puppeteers- the instigators and beneficiaries of the "Belomaidan" counted on their quick victory and impunity, on the fact that later, like the Banderonazi junta in Kiev, they would "cut down the trees "," will correct the history of the Maidan "and will cover their tracks, by the way, in the morning they nevertheless" cleaned up "their video from the places of Maidan provocations, tried to remove the footage with the outrageous Maidan extremists-militants and left on them only the responses of Belarusian law enforcement officers to these illegal provocations , they say, the police allegedly "unprovoked exceeded their powers"!) and it is not out of "holy naivety" that such Maidan filth and "zmagar" slander against the Belarusian and Russian authorities is persistently writing ??! winked
            3. 0
              15 October 2020 13: 14
              Quote: The same Lech
              otherwise it would have been trumpeted long ago

              This is a mystery to me ... after all, the Belarusians have a lot of relatives in these countries, and so that these relatives do not participate in epoch-making events for Belarus ... I will not believe in life ... for sure they are there.
              Moreover, Poland declared its financial and organizational support for these protests in all the hearing.

              maybe you don't need to produce entities? and everything will fall into place!
          2. +3
            15 October 2020 08: 23
            Quote: Pilat2009
            For some reason, there are no non-citizens of Belarus among the detainees
            Not fools, they learned to work. And there is no sense in their presence, the main thing is to organize, teach, and then only coordinate while sitting in the warmth on a smartphone. And the role of the commanders of the "ten" is played by already trained personnel from the local population. After all, the preparation did not go on for a month or two, first the calculation of the psychological portrait of the population, then the creation of a methodology, and then training and propaganda. All world coups and revolutions, starting with the Great French, were taken into service.
            1. +7
              15 October 2020 08: 58
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Not fools, they learned to work.

              "If you want to defeat the enemy - raise his children"
        5. +3
          15 October 2020 12: 19
          Quote: The same Lech
          everyone is well fed

          Lech, how do you know?


          Therefore, I am absolutely sure that in the crowd of these protestors you can find many guests from Poland and Ukraine who have considerable experience of such illegal actions.


          3 month they all can not catch))
          but at the very beginning they reported on 33 Wagnerians who were thrown from Russia itself))
    2. +3
      15 October 2020 07: 49
      Quote: The same LYOKHA

      Specialists of the orange revolutions from the United States have mastered this technology to perfection ... Comrade Skomorokhov will not let you lie.

      Will not give. He's at their side.
    3. +1
      15 October 2020 10: 37
      I look at the protestors ... everyone is well fed, shod, dressed.



      These are also well dressed ..
      And you can't say that the faces are haggard ..



      1. +1
        15 October 2020 12: 26
        those who feel sorry for poor Africans do not understand that they do not even need a house for life - in part of Africa, the climate is quite suitable for living in a hut.
        They do not understand that an ordinary African does not work at all the same way as Europeans, mostly much smaller and more unstable. What to eat, he just needs to go outside the village and look. But not everyone will do this.
        1. -1
          15 October 2020 13: 13
          There was no talk about pity anywhere ..
          Read what was discussed ..
    4. +1
      15 October 2020 14: 39
      Normally, you have an approach to people, they don't swell with hunger, you have a T-shirt and okay, there is nothing to protest.
      Is that a barn chtoli, well, they throw in food and say quietly?
  6. +8
    15 October 2020 05: 54
    Goodbye Maz. Goodbye Belaz, hello Polish toilet. According to the opposition, 200 thousand people took to the streets of Minsk, sorry, but 2 million inhabitants live in Minsk. This is 10 percent of the capital's inhabitants.
    1. +4
      15 October 2020 06: 06
      10 percent of the capital's residents.

      And what to do with the remaining 90 percent of the capital's residents? ... is it also something to write down as protestors?
      1. +4
        15 October 2020 09: 09
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        And what to do with the remaining 90 percent of the capital's residents? ... is it also something to write down as protestors?

        so let them also come out and express their civic position. In the Civil, too, 90% of the population sat at home, and in fact, several hundred thousand passionaries from all sides fought.
        1. -2
          15 October 2020 09: 15
          The civilian, too, 90% of the population sat at home, and in fact, several hundred thousand passionaries fought from all sides.

          Yes, it was necessary to do it with red and white ... and in Belarus, the same thing must be done ... to do it to both sides ... Schaub did not bury themselves in the struggle for democracy in Belarus.
    2. -13
      15 October 2020 06: 06
      And Belarusians in Moscow don't wash toilets?
      1. +1
        15 October 2020 06: 12
        This is the prerogative of Poland.
      2. +5
        15 October 2020 06: 30
        I have not met toilet bowls washing Belarusians. My who moved work as an engineer, lawyer and IT specialist. One of the sisters does not work but it is her choice. At least tomorrow he can go to the bank for specialty. The citizens of Belarus are not gaster. They can do everything according to their documents under a union treaty. From employment to medical care on an equal footing with Russian citizens
        1. -4
          15 October 2020 06: 43
          Then why did they all move?
          1. -2
            15 October 2020 06: 50
            Capabilities. Development. There are simply more of them. Well, plus we help them to realize these opportunities. Ordinary family relationships
            1. -3
              15 October 2020 06: 56
              Then it turns out that the people who are protesting do not want to go anywhere? Do you dream of developing in your homeland?
              1. +3
                15 October 2020 07: 02
                I deny this fact?) I just told you that I have not seen the Gradan of the Republic of Belarus washing toilets. Everyone I know personally or met by experts.
                1. +3
                  15 October 2020 09: 08
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  I deny this fact?) I just told you that I have not seen the Gradan of the Republic of Belarus washing toilets.

                  About washing toilets, that's not entirely true. Firstly, you will not get very much into cleaning companies, there are enough of our own, and if they take women as cleaners. The male contingent works at construction sites, roads, laying pipes and cables. A small number of them work as engineers, Belarusian specialists are valued higher than Ukrainian ones (judging by my experience of working with them).
                  1. +1
                    15 October 2020 10: 10
                    possibly. I'm only talking about my experience. It is much easier for citizens of the Republic of Belarus to get a job in the Russian Federation. ranging from simplicity of design and ending with mentality and efficiency. but at the lower levels, somehow I did not meet)
                    1. +4
                      15 October 2020 10: 36
                      Quote: carstorm 11
                      but at the lower levels, somehow I did not meet

                      And I just worked with the lower level, (and this is not in Russia) and I will not say anything bad about the Belarusian workers, they are good specialists, both workers and engineers. And they did not go out of need, but simply from us they received more than from themselves.
              2. +2
                15 October 2020 09: 05
                Yeah, like 404 ... for bottles, chewing gum and permission to wash the push in Europe, to sell property and land to "private investors" ... such a "development"
      3. +1
        15 October 2020 06: 42
        Nikolay: About washing toilets. Anything happens. They sometimes wash toilets not only in Moscow, but also where their children study. There is nothing you can do about it.
        1. +5
          15 October 2020 06: 46
          I do not consider washing toilets a shameful thing, neither in Moscow nor in Warsaw!
      4. +4
        15 October 2020 12: 37
        In Moscow, Tajik women are doing this
      5. +2
        15 October 2020 13: 11
        Quote: ASAD
        And Belarusians in Moscow don't wash toilets?

        Why this irony, ASAD ?! smile
        After all, you yourself probably well know that in Russia Belarusians are equal in rights (my relatives and friends who moved to Russia did not initially feel infringement of their rights, their native Russian language, which prevails in Belarus, is the same as that of Russians - common for all of us, happy with their device compared to previous salaries and work in the Republic of Belarus, in the prescribed manner received a residence permit and Russian passports, pay taxes and pay a mortgage for housing!)! good
        And not like in Poland (not to mention the "Tribaltic" and other Europe, where Belarusians have even fewer "prospects" compared to the natives, even the wages are half that of the locals!) - where Belarusians from Belarus are traditionally disenfranchised "(although, yes, those of them, who in advance had anti-Belarusian maligned themselves and got used to the "Pole's card", can claim some "cookies" from the Polish authorities, but still, they are NOT completely equal with the Poles - "second-rate"!)! request
    3. -9
      15 October 2020 06: 09
      Quote: ANDREI MIKHAILOV_2
      Goodbye Maz. Goodbye Belaz, hello Polish toilet. According to the opposition, 200 thousand people took to the streets of Minsk, sorry, but 2 million inhabitants live in Minsk. This is 10 percent of the capital's inhabitants.

      And the rest came out in support of Lukashenka? Ay, where are you? Those who were not afraid to come out. The rest, as in our kitchen, they prefer to discuss
      1. +3
        15 October 2020 06: 37
        And the rest came out in support of Lukashenka?

        Not everything is so simple ... active 10 percent are the opposition boosters ... active 10 percent are in the power of Lukashenka ... the remaining 80 percent of the people are an inert mass, waiting for someone to take ... while the resource and support of Russia are on the side of Lukashenka ... there will be no option.
        1. +4
          15 October 2020 08: 38
          Here you can go from the other side. Before the elections, the opposition ran out of ears about the president's 3% rating. All the walls were dirtied. So where is that 97% with sneakers? Already long ago they swept away with slippers.
          1. 0
            15 October 2020 13: 18
            Quote: g_ae
            Here you can go from the other side. Before the elections, the opposition ran out of ears about the president's 3% rating. All the walls were dirtied. So where is that 97% with sneakers? Already long ago they swept away with slippers.


            so the same can be said about 80% - where are they all ???
            and why arrange a secret coronation with such popular love ???
            1. 0
              15 October 2020 14: 04
              Well this is obvious. In the same place as your 97%. So prove it. Slippers in hand and in Drozdy. And I don't need to prove anything.
    4. +1
      15 October 2020 08: 35
      Quote: ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
      Sorry, but Minsk has 2 million inhabitants, which is 10 percent of the capital's residents.

      The guy from Braunau also had no more than 10% support, which was enough to create the Third Reich.
    5. +3
      15 October 2020 12: 32
      Quote: ANDREI MIKHAILOV_2
      Goodbye Maz. Goodbye Belaz, hello Polish toilet. According to the opposition, 200 thousand people took to the streets of Minsk, sorry, but 2 million inhabitants live in Minsk. This is 10 percent of the capital's inhabitants.

      so in science - usually about 10% of the protest population actively participates in protests!
      what's wrong?
      Is everything so good in the country if a highly qualified specialist in his country earns less than harvesting strawberries and cleaning toilets in the same Poland ???
      1. +1
        15 October 2020 14: 44
        But it is not clear how the ruin of state-owned enterprises, paralysis of the banking system, transport collapse, refusal of utility bills and other "peaceful" measures will contribute to a sharp rise in salaries, even if Lukashenka is toppled. Kindergarten, pants with straps. I understand this does not and will not reach creative people and athletes. This is how they see the world. Yes, and there are few people living in the country, the citizens of the world live them. But here and the type of "economists" some did not go far. The West will help us, and that's it. Moreover, the West does not promise or promise anything, unlike Ukraine, but everyone is sure that help is ready. Just about, only the state was left to overthrow and ruin, and then the Marshall plan, and we would live. It doesn’t come to light that Lukashenka and the state are not the same thing. A madhouse on the road.
        1. +1
          15 October 2020 19: 06
          Quote: g_ae
          But it is not clear how the ruin of state-owned enterprises, paralysis of the banking system, transport collapse, refusal of utility bills and other "peaceful" measures will contribute to a sharp rise in salaries, even if Lukashenka is toppled. Kindergarten, pants with straps. I understand this does not and will not reach creative people and athletes. This is how they see the world. Yes, and there are few people living in the country, the citizens of the world live them. But here and the type of "economists" some did not go far. The West will help us, and that's it. Moreover, the West does not promise or promise anything, unlike Ukraine, but everyone is sure that help is ready. Just about, only the state was left to overthrow and ruin, and then the Marshall plan, and we would live. It doesn’t come to light that Lukashenka and the state are not the same thing. A madhouse on the road.


          i.e. state enterprises collapsed in the last 3 months ??
          or their destruction happened when Lukashenka takes money from the cash register and gives it to the opposition ???
    6. +2
      15 October 2020 14: 40
      Do you count from babies too? Should they come out too?
  7. +4
    15 October 2020 05: 57
    The policy of "we don't abandon our friends" in relation to the conventional "Rushailo-Menyailo" is rather strange. Through the efforts of Ivan Vasilyevich, Peter and Stalin, the entourage changed the palaces on the rack: depending on the cases. Not now. And now this "personnel policy" has been transferred to "adjacent territories."
    The "value" and irreplaceability of the citizen of the Republic of Belarus Lukashenko is not voiced. In the club "friends of the Russian Federation", a la Schroeder or Berlusconi, it seems there is nothing to accept ... Probably. laughing
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      0
      15 October 2020 07: 43
      However, Menshikov stole, as they would say now, money with KAMAZ trucks, but Pyotr Alekseevich did not send him on the rack, although he knew perfectly well
      1. +2
        15 October 2020 08: 26
        Quote: KCA
        However, Menshikov stole, as they would say now, money with KAMAZ trucks, but Pyotr Alekseevich did not send him on the rack, although he knew perfectly well

        Peter was his friend. What is more important a friend or the state? But when Peter died, Menshikov got what he deserved.
      2. +1
        15 October 2020 09: 01
        Quote: KCA
        However, Menshikov stole, as they would say now, money from KAMAZ

        Quote: Pilat2009
        but when Peter was gone, Menshikov got what he deserved

        Gentlemen historians!
        Menshikov !!!
        1. +1
          15 October 2020 09: 51
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Gentlemen historians!
          Menshikov !!!

          We apologize After the death of Peter I, he contributed to the accession of Catherine I, became the de facto ruler of Russia
          Menshikov, Alexander Danilovich - Wikipedia
  8. 0
    15 October 2020 05: 57
    Roman, thanks!
    And the first reaction to:
    Ice under Lukashenka's feet

    and the phrase from the poster in the first photo: “When injustice becomes a law, resistance becomes a duty,” as the first thought from God, I expound:
    Recent events taking place in the world and in Russia specifically; protest actions of ordinary citizens and their claims to the worsening situation and pathological despair; "Legal" excesses of power structures and an open violation of simple human rights to a decent life - all this can accentuate the question:
    “If today there is a concrete floor under your feet, concrete floors above your head, and around the concrete heads of the inner circle, what feelings will the prospect of a hot frying pan evoke?”
    I can only judge the events in Belarus through third hands. What happens in Russia is transmitted to me through the first hands and organs of my own vision and hearing. Therefore, I do not know what is under Lukashenka's feet, but a certain curiosity is bursting:
    "That in 2024 (if he survives in his right mind and sober memory) it will not be Lukashenka's feet - a carpet or ..."
    hi
    1. +8
      15 October 2020 07: 55
      Quote: ROSS 42
      I can only judge the events in Belarus through third hands.

      We order components from Belarusians. As needed. And accordingly, these components are made specifically for us for each order. So in a couple of months we ordered three times and delivery (they themselves provide delivery on their own) comes in just a few days. Yesterday I was present at the acceptance and my colleague asked the driver: "You are not on strike there or what? We will not have time to order - they have already brought it." The meaning of the answer - no one is on strike at the factories, it is necessary to work, the strikers - here it was said with obscenities, but in the meaning - rabble, because of which children are scared to go out into the street.
      1. +2
        15 October 2020 08: 55
        Quote: Lesovik
        strikers - it was said here with obscenities, but in its meaning - rabble, because of which children are scared to let out into the street.

        I believe. Why not? It would also be understandable if this “Belarusian maiden” presented some programs, plans or something that radically puts the Belarusian people in better conditions. And here? I hate people who strive to inspire the masses: "Do as I said!"
        If you have never touched simple physical labor, if you have not earned a single penny of labor in your life, if you do not drive your car yourself, have never made repairs or did a general cleaning of the apartment with your own hands, what right do YOU ​​have to teach people live?
        Tihanovskaya is that fruit.
        And I have nothing to share with Belarus and its people, when we were young we shared the hardships and deprivations of military service.
  9. +8
    15 October 2020 06: 16
    A power scenario is a dictatorship. And the world does not like dictatorships today.
    ...Come on. laughing It depends on what kind of dictatorship, if ours or ours, they love it. And if not their own or ours, they don't love it. And besides, in which country is there no dictatorship now? In most countries, the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, expressed in one form or another ...
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  13. +5
    15 October 2020 06: 49
    what is this stuff about? The fact that "Old Man" is in great difficulty is a no brainer, then that the author is promoting "Protestants" is also clear, the thoughtfulness of "Guarantor" has a lot of explanations, and the author's arguments are not devoid of meaning. But the question is different ... the world has not changed much, no matter how the author insists on this ..., the time has just come for other decisions, and the author's attempts to push through the capitulation of the "father" in the spirit of democracy and liberalism are simply ridiculous, but the truth is that within the framework of the western form of democracy, the problems of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus are insoluble ... but other ways are TABU.
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    1. +7
      15 October 2020 07: 13
      By the way, the zmagarei methods of struggle are increasingly beginning to resemble a typical Bandera regime. Attentats, provocations, already terror and so on. Which is not surprising, because one of the "ideological fathers" fought both on the Maidan and in the "Azov" battalion, while the other's ancestor served in Osipovich under the Germans. You can't crush genes with your finger. And if we take into account the simply wild ideological pumping from abroad (including from Russia, all sorts of rains, echoes, YouTube channels and telegrams, and the like). Yes, and all these little house chats are nothing more than the embryos of terrorist cells, and what is hatching from them is already quite clear. What is this, a coincidence? I don’t think so.
      1. 0
        15 October 2020 07: 37
        Protests are slowly fizzling out in Belarus ... I'm afraid that Maidan directors may take more radical measures ... in the form of sacred sacrifices in order to again excite the public and the people of Belarus ... as if not to croak.
        1. 0
          15 October 2020 07: 48
          Don't go to the grandmother, it will be so. Manual.
          1. 0
            15 October 2020 09: 35
            In general, judging by the logic of the development of events, we are now at the beginning of the Syrian version of the color revolution. One to one, only so far in a more light version. And so, well, just a copy. And techniques, and methods, and slogans. Unfortunately. And our probable future can be seen in Syria.
        2. +1
          15 October 2020 09: 58
          In the US, elections are on their way to Belarus now, wait until February or March there will be a concert on the streets.
        3. -1
          15 October 2020 13: 43
          hi When Lukashenko ("multi-vector father" is too kind to his enemies and enemies of the Belarusian people!) Recently talked with the "oppositionists" and recklessly gave the opportunity to talk on the phone to the "political prisoner-blogger" with his runaway "Mrs. Tikanovskaya", then the malicious hubby demanded from his "faithful" to protest much "must be tougher, Sveta, tougher!" request
          Over the weekend, the "white maid" extremists went on to escalate the "protests", again from the antics of the brutal "zmagar" militants suffered the citizens of Belarus, defending law and order in their service!
          And all sorts of counter-Belarusian information resources hastened to present the legal protection of law and order from the outrageous "protestors" as supposedly "illegal intrigues of the authorities," they say, hated by the amero-European "democrat" fascists, "the Belarusian dictator must leave" at the "demand" of the "pro-American handful of" grant-eaters and their " - headless misfits ??!
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      3. -1
        15 October 2020 12: 45
        Well, how to say, here Medvedchuk's genes were suppressed
  15. +6
    15 October 2020 06: 52
    At one time, Yanukovych made the biggest mistake. He announced that Ukraine’s path will be close to the west. It would seem that he said it once. But he was heard. The same mistake was repeated by Lukashenko. “Russia is not a decree for us.” So we must understand it differently. And this work on the errors already has to be done by the riot police. And it is not yet known where he does his job, and where he deliberately provokes further protests.
  16. nnm
    +10
    15 October 2020 06: 58
    tales of Poland's malicious plans to attack Belarus and squeeze Grodno, but ... It is difficult to prove funding from outside.

    Is it okay that, for example, the Polish "Solidarity" openly announced that the protesters would send 1 million zlotys?


    A power scenario is a dictatorship. And the world does not like dictatorships today.

    Eh, but in Catalonia, France, the USA and Germany they don't know this ...
  17. +4
    15 October 2020 07: 03
    for some reason Lukashenka arranged this meeting in the pre-trial detention center. Based on the rather vague explanations of the official channels, he wanted to talk about the changes to the constitution ... with the arrested oppositionists!

    I haven't met such a madhouse for a long time !!! By the way, the incompetence of our assessors from above, too.
    However, I probably all think about the best, dream, and life is tougher and easier !!!
    So with whom there "batska" went to negotiate in jail? with criminals? What are they accused of ??? Or is it such modern political games, when political opponents were thrown into a slammer, and he was elected wherever you want, as much as you want ???
    Okay, "bam" the state saved itself at the same time ... you can accept this, you can try, but even so not very much, because this state and from it, if you do not save, it is not an enemy, but it's time, it's time to move on to the country and the leader needs a different one.
  18. +8
    15 October 2020 07: 17
    According to zmagarou, the security forces are to blame. No need to touch the "peaceful" protests, as they do no harm (white socks on the bench, etc.) approx. Then tell me how a man should react to his family whose family is threatened by zmagars. Calls for the murder of children, violence against the wives of security officials are the realities of Belarus now. Are these peaceful protests? They are doing the right thing that they crush this muck and do not let them raise their heads. Even the flags of the anarchists have already appeared.
    The country needs reforms! But REFORMS, not a bunch of Natsiks, cutlet grills and others in power. Who will look only at the West and will happily assent.
    1. +1
      15 October 2020 10: 55
      It's not clear why the word Peaceful is in quotation marks ..
      ,
      Perhaps Peaceful protests do not exist a priori ??
      Maybe there is no dictatorship ??
      Do people have the right to come out to Peaceful protests against the dictatorship ??
      1. +1
        15 October 2020 11: 10
        Those. carrying a Molotov cocktail with you is it a peaceful protest? And where is the evidence of the dictatorship, he came to power by force? AHL lost elections? Nobody went to dispute this by law. Better to jump through the streets while a woman with low social responsibility sits in the warmth abroad and calls for a collapse of the economy. Oh well. I saw your PEACE meeting in Zhlobin, very "peaceful".
        1. +1
          15 October 2020 11: 22
          Those. carrying a Molotov cocktail with you is it a peaceful protest?

          The article contains a photo of the protests .. where are the cocktails ??
          Or even if one patient ran out with a bottle - now you have to beat everyone indiscriminately?

          And where is the evidence of the dictatorship, he came to power by force?


          I didn’t write about proofs .. let’s even say that all the oppositionists were in jail for some other reason ..
          I just asked - do people have the right to come out to Peaceful protests against the dictatorship ??

          No one went it is disputed by law.
          Strange statement .. Either erroneous or false ..

          The Central Election Commission (CEC) of Belarus has rejected all complaints about non-recognition of the presidential elections, presidential candidate Andrei Dmitriev said on his Telegram channel. According to him, the commission also refused to postpone the decision.

          All candidates, except for the incumbent President Alexander Lukashenko, filed complaints with the CEC. The CEC rejected complaints from Andrei Dmitriev, Anna Kanopatskaya and Svetlana Tikhanovskaya.


          Better jump the streets
          Either a naive delusion .. or a deliberate distortion ..
          We are trying to bring peaceful protests of the same pensioners to the races with pots in Ukraine ..
          So, of course, you can never come to one opinion ..
          1. -1
            15 October 2020 11: 36
            If I deliberately distort, living in Zhlobin and seeing these young men with my own eyes and how they behaved. What are you guided by? A peaceful meeting must be peaceful. There is a law and it was not written in order to run into the street in case of something. When the security officials are not provoked, no one touches the zmagarou. One "smart" will throw a bottle and burn a man alive, but he will be right in the eyes of the crowd, he is a fighter against dictatorship. Well then, no need to whine for being beaten.
            In my opinion, the country needs to change, reforms are needed. But this is not achieved on the street ..
            1. +1
              15 October 2020 12: 02
              A peaceful meeting must be peaceful. There is a law and it was not written in order to run into the street in case of something. When the security officials are not provoked, no one touches the zmagarou. One "smart" will throw a bottle and burn a man alive, but he will be right in the eyes of the crowd, he is a fighter against dictatorship. Well then, no need to whine for being beaten.


              People, horses mixed in heaps ..

              A peaceful meeting must be peaceful.
              Who argued with this ??


              There is a law and it was not written in order to run into the street in case of something. When the security forces are not provoked, no one touches the zmagarou.


              You cannot provoke the security forces .. but you can just run into the street ..

              One "smart" will throw a bottle and burn a man alive, but he will be right in the eyes of the crowd, he is a fighter against dictatorship.

              This is actually something ..
              1. What if he doesn't throw the bottle? Why should such a "smart guy" appear on a peaceful protest?
              2. Did they burn a lot of riot police, in full gear for tens of thousands of rubles ?? Why are these twitching ..
              3. Why should he be right in the eyes of the crowd ?? If the OMON does not rush to beat people - people come up and give them flowers .. and no one is on fire .. Maybe this was not the case ?? If there was a "smart guy" in the Molotov, people would have tied him up themselves .. people walk with their children ..
              4. How not to whine that they are beating ?? What do you mean - well THEN ?? If the "smart guy" took out a knife / cocktail in the minibus .. THEN should everyone be pulled out of this minibus and beaten ?? And let them not complain ??


              I do not fully understand the logic of your judgments on a single point ..

              Shl .. and I never got an answer to the question - do people have the right to go out to Peaceful protests against the dictatorship ..
              1. -1
                15 October 2020 12: 17
                I didn't drink to brooderschft with you so that I could switch to you. Let me explain, especially for you, people have the right to go to AGREED rallies within the framework of the law. Not what is happening now. And about the fool with a bottle, in the August events I did not notice that the crowd tore up those who threw Molotov cocktails. Av do not understand my judgments, I do not understand yours. As well as the clowns who are trying to destroy my country under the sauce of the slogans of the dictatorship of freedom, etc.
                1. 0
                  15 October 2020 13: 17
                  I didn't drink to brooderschft with you so that I could switch to you.


                  Oh well..
                  In that case, I don’t need to kick it out here .. I’ve never drank with you at all ..
                  Since you wanted to talk about it ..
                  http://www.lookatme.ru/mag/how-to/etiquette/207763-etiquette-you

                  Let me explain, especially for you, people have the right to come out to AGREED rallies within the framework of the law.


                  Well then, I will repeat for the eleventh time especially for you - do people have the right to come out to Peaceful protests against the dictatorship ??
        2. 0
          15 October 2020 13: 14
          Quote: T.A.V.
          Those. carrying a Molotov cocktail with you is it a peaceful protest? And where is the evidence of the dictatorship, he came to power by force? AHL lost elections? Nobody went to dispute this by law. Better to jump through the streets while a woman with low social responsibility sits in the warmth abroad and calls for a collapse of the economy. Oh well. I saw your PEACE meeting in Zhlobin, very "peaceful".

          You are breaching
      2. -3
        15 October 2020 11: 28
        Quote: Roman070280
        Perhaps Peaceful protests do not exist a priori

        In life or in a fairy tale?
        1. +1
          15 October 2020 11: 32
          Apparently, Lukashenka thought he was in a fairy tale ..
          1. -1
            15 October 2020 11: 44
            Quote: Roman070280
            Lukashenka thought he was in a fairy tale

            That is, peaceful protests are only in a fairy tale.
            1. 0
              15 October 2020 11: 51
              In the fairy tale where Lukashenka lives (and some users from this site), there are no peaceful protests ..
              1. -3
                15 October 2020 11: 54
                Quote: Roman070280
                there are no peaceful protests

                Of course. The notorious peacefulness is simply camouflage in order to be able to act "non-peaceful".
                1. 0
                  15 October 2020 12: 16
                  Everyone thinks to the extent of his depravity ..
                  If a person is not going to, and does not need the opportunity to act not peacefully, then he does not need the notorious "camouflage" ...

                  Shl .. I hope you are not beaten in the store at the checkout for disguising yourself and wanting to steal bread ..
                  1. -4
                    15 October 2020 12: 45
                    Quote: Roman070280
                    Everyone thinks according to his depravity

                    And knowledge of the realities of life.
                    Quote: Roman070280
                    If a person is not going to, and does not need the opportunity to act not peacefully, then he does not need the notorious "camouflage" ...
                    If no one is planning a seizure of power, then they do not need "peaceful protests."
                    Quote: Roman070280
                    I hope you don't get hit in the store at the checkout
                    I hope that if the worst happens and the Maidan people come to power in Belarus, then you personally will not have time to escape.
                    1. 0
                      15 October 2020 13: 27
                      And knowledge of the realities of life.
                      And to the extent of their depravity ..

                      If no one is planning a seizure of power, then they do not need "peaceful protests."


                      I wrote it right at least once !!
                      In this case, the people at the rally are not planning to seize power .. And they don’t need "peaceful protests" in quotes ..
                      They went out to really Peaceful protests ..

                      I hope that if the worst happens and the Maidan people come to power in Belarus, then you personally will not have time to escape.


                      What does this have to do with it ??)
                      It was about bikes about some kind of "camouflage" and about the notorious peacefulness ..
                      As in the joke about blame-the-fluff .. when the heel was beaten not because he called a pig, but because he could think about it ..
                      So he asked - you never know what kind of thoughts you have at the checkout .. what if your peacefulness is notorious and camouflaged ?? Shouldn't I beat you ?? (exclusively according to your logic)
                      And where do I, Maidan people and run away ??
                      1. -1
                        15 October 2020 16: 47
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        And to the extent of their depravity.

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        And knowledge of the realities of life

                        Quote: Roman070280
                        In this case, the people at the rally are not planning to seize power.
                        Is it? So what do they want by demanding a change of government?
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        It was about bikes about some kind of "camouflage" and about the notorious peacefulness.
                        Bikes? So it's not the protesters who want to stage a coup.
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        what if your peace is notorious and camouflaged ?? Shouldn't I beat you ??
                        Yes, yes, yes ... Some just want to seize power, but they are peaceful.
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        And where do I, Maidan people and run away ??
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        I hope that if the worst happens and the Maidan people come to power in Belarus, then you personally will not have time to escape.
                        and you will feel on your own skin what "real democracy" is.
    2. +2
      15 October 2020 15: 21
      What should a man be beaten for nothing? Whose wife was beaten, well, they say it was not there, or oh god! against Lukashenka?
  19. -5
    15 October 2020 07: 19
    What about the ongoing protests in Khabarovsk?
  20. bar
    +2
    15 October 2020 07: 47
    Meetings. Demonstrations. Further continuation: workers' strikes, protests of teachers, doctors, women's marches and demonstrations of pensioners. And yes, of course, young people.

    The romantic and opp with experience washed and lovingly smoothed his white ribbon. lol
    At the age of Roman, it's time to gain wisdom and not get divorced on these pink snot.
  21. 0
    15 October 2020 07: 52
    Oh article so article. The masks are off, nothing to lose. Warsaw is mom, Soros is dad. laughing laughing laughing
  22. -3
    15 October 2020 07: 57
    The protest movement continues for the third month in Belarus. And, obviously, the protest will continue no matter what.
    Yes, a good technique was developed by Jean Sharp, and it seems to work for all 100. Kyrdyk crept up to Belarus imperceptibly.
    1. -3
      15 October 2020 08: 24
      Although it was visible from afar, unfortunately.
  23. +1
    15 October 2020 08: 07
    But the problem of Belarus is much deeper, there is not just a conflict "top-bottom", there is a complete unwillingness of the authorities to enter into dialogue with the people
    ... and when the authorities were conducting a dialogue with the people. Moreover, there is no one to conduct a dialogue with. There is no brightly expressed people's leader in Belarus. And what is, these are not representatives of the people, but representatives of certain groups expressing someone's interests.
    1. +1
      15 October 2020 08: 22
      More precisely, the authorities do not want a very tendentious sharpened, and led from abroad, a small part of the people, hiding behind the alleged "people's will", dictate their own conditions, passing off as "the will of the people."
  24. bar
    -2
    15 October 2020 08: 12
    The protest movement continues for the third month in Belarus. And, obviously, the protest will continue no matter what.

    Emerging countries and nations are like little children. Everyone wants to spite their grandmother to lick an icicle or stick their finger in a socket. And Russia with its 90s, and now Belarus, which at one time escaped the 90s. And nowhere to get away from this, this is the law of nature. Nobody learns from the mistakes of others, everyone makes his own with delight. And the Belarusians, until they get mad, until they get drunk on a spoonful of the fruits of "freedom and democracy", will not stop.
    But the saddest thing is that this will be repeated regularly with every generation change. And every time young and vigorous, hungry for "democracy" will want to devour it to vomit. Unfortunately, Russia is no exception in this process.
    And it is very strange that seemingly middle-aged, seemingly not stupid, and seemingly experienced people like Roman do not understand this and support someone's childish urges to freeze their ears to spite their grandmother.
    1. -1
      15 October 2020 09: 55
      Quote: bar
      And the Belarusians, until they get mad, until they get drunk on a spoonful of the fruits of "freedom and democracy", will not stop.

      No matter how late it comes to drink borojomi.
  25. -5
    15 October 2020 08: 38
    It is unlikely that the siloviki are "fierce". In France, they are much more violent. And in Belarus so ...
    However, this does not in the least detract from the mustachioed snake. Before acting out, collective farm chairman
    1. -1
      15 October 2020 10: 01
      Quote: Cottodraton
      Before acting out, collective farm chairman

      What could happen? Well, the "collective farm chairman" will leave, the "cook" will come instead, but what will change? Belarus will heal like a well-fed Europe, manna from heaven will immediately fall on it, and there will be no need to work, or someone can offer something else.
  26. -2
    15 October 2020 09: 24
    And according to urya-media, white fluffy security forces defeated all these agents of Germany, France, Poland, Lithuania and the State Department (while they write different things, the manual has not summarized) at least 3 times.

    And here again.

    By the way, they instantly forgot about the 33 Russian chop officers. Weren't they beaten there? Didn't they jump on them, as someone said in an interview? Are there any bruises? was there a medical examination?

    Silence ... out of sight, out of mind ...
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    1. 0
      15 October 2020 11: 02
      A sane person understands that the stability of the state is better than the post-Maid ruin.

      Robert Mugabe spoke the same words to his African citizens for decades ..
      It's funny ..
  28. +2
    15 October 2020 09: 42
    One thing is not clear to me, but why is this propaganda of the White Revolution on this site? You win, well, defeat Luka further, but in Belarus, not in Russia.
    This article clearly shows how the propaganda of the Belarusian revolution works. It is especially interesting how, at the stage of lost positions, the Belarusian revolutionaries seek support from Russia, so that later they can tear Belarus away from Russia. According to the principle of Ukrainian revolutionaries - now promise them everything (Donbass and Russia), and we will hang them later.
    On many theses in the article I would like to catch revolutionary propagandists in lies, but I will write only about one thing, about the non-bribe Belarusian revolution. There have already been photographs of young revolutionaries counting Belarusian bunnies on the afsalt.
    All revolutions are the same.
    1. +1
      15 October 2020 10: 14
      Why lie. After people with bright faces calmly filmed a burning man in Smolevichi, and then rushed to upload the video to the network, and a representative of the authorities provided assistance, everything is clear with them. There are still not enough white helmets. But there are quite analogs. They are children, they are mothers, they are grandparents, etc.
      1. -3
        15 October 2020 18: 16
        In! Today they are also disabled. What's next?! A circus on a dart!
    2. +2
      16 October 2020 01: 45
      Quote: ALSur
      what would then tear Belarus away from Russia.

      And this has already been done by Putin with the support of this mustachioed fascist.

      Quote: ALSur
      One thing is not clear to me, but why is this propaganda of the White-red-white revolution on this site?

      Then why is there Luka's constant propaganda that TNP has outplayed everyone and the protest bought by the West has merged?

      Quote: ALSur
      There have already been photographs of young revolutionaries counting Belarusian bunnies on the afsalt.

      laughing In general, they didn't even give dollars. What a shame. A paltry 30 rubles, one monthly unemployment benefit.
      Attempts to attract payment always look pathetic.
  29. +1
    15 October 2020 09: 53
    Maybe this fraudulent propaganda will be enough. Lukashenko is the legally elected president, that's it.
    For the union state of Russia and Belarus!
    1. -1
      15 October 2020 16: 43
      Quote: Herman 4223
      Maybe this fraudulent propaganda will be enough. Lukashenko is the legally elected president, that's it.
      For the union state of Russia and Belarus!

      Yes, let the throats tear have the right .. I am also Alexander for the union state, enough already to play independence, etc. Belarus will be torn apart in a way that even Ukraine never dreamed of.
      Only joining Russia can save the situation from these rabid demons ..
      Peace to all!
      1. -2
        15 October 2020 17: 05
        They have the right, only such articles mislead people, and after reading this, someone may go and throw stones at the police officers tomorrow.
    2. 0
      18 October 2020 23: 32
      Quote: Herman 4223
      Lukashenka legally elected president

      Russians of course know better from abroad
      1. 0
        19 October 2020 12: 18
        Only the court can admit the opposite.
  30. +4
    15 October 2020 10: 03
    The novel has surpassed itself here ........
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  32. +2
    15 October 2020 10: 18
    Not a lot of history, for those who read but did not see. Germany throughout its history has been subject to constant attacks and attacks. From the time of Rome to the 19th century. After the defeat of World War I, many military and politicians ended up in prisons in England. The people wanted revenge, everyone was happy with the appearance of Hitler and his attack aircraft. But they didn't take it seriously. Germany came under the influence of many countries. Technology appeared, the economy came out of nowhere. The active minority quickly shut their mouths to those who disagreed. This is how the 1rd Reich began. Draw analogies with Ukraine and Belarus. All of Western Europe is drowning in tolerance and tolerance. But the eastern one is beating in a nationalist fit. Historical self-knowledge awoke in Turkey, Poland, Romania, the Baltic countries, Ukraine. Now Belarus is being woken up. It's foolish not to see the obvious
    1. +1
      15 October 2020 10: 30
      Bravo! Everyone accuses the authorities of the Republic of Belarus of fascism, but for some reason few people see that fascism is now being born. At first, the German authorities also fought fiercely with the Nazis, the beer coup, the squads, the attack aircraft, Hitler's imprisonment, all the cases. And then beautiful banners, torchlight processions, loud slogans, Horst Wessel, uniforms from Hugo Boss, Goebbels propaganda, popular delight. By the way, and the support of many artists. Well, and further on the growing terror, pogroms, reprisals. So this is where everything goes. Nobody hides it already. Guys, no one sees this?
      1. -1
        15 October 2020 10: 42
        Yes, take the same Sergei Mkhalka from the Lapis. He also figured and lit on the Maidan in 2014. "Warriors of Light" is from there. And now all of a sudden he became right, right. What has changed? I do not believe.
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  34. +4
    15 October 2020 10: 20
    I'm not even surprised. Roman certainly knows better what is happening here in Belarus, but every day hundreds of thousands of people walk around the city, about their business, to work, from work, or just walk and imagine at the same time nobody is beaten or detained, but at all mass events, at first they repeatedly offer to disperse and warn about the consequences, but if you get information from Neksta, Belsat, Radio Freedom, here Bai and other so-called independent media, then of course yes, we get zmagars exclusively white and fluffy, and riot police and VV are fierce animals ... By the way, yes, I saw a report of one hysteria from Khabarovsk, when the National Guard asked the local zmagars there - that's the price of all the independent ...
  35. 0
    15 October 2020 10: 24
    whether the protest really comes from the heart ...

    .... most likely we will never see barricades, ransacked and looted shops. Wrong people, obviously


    Shaved-headed soccer fans with torches are one thing.
    Another thing is men, women, children .. pensioners ..
    And really different people ..
    Just one photo alone can be seen, and to those who protest - that these people are not going for money at all.
  36. -1
    15 October 2020 10: 26
    The elections were held in a dubious manner. Would AHLy be more modest in the final figures, he would sit like Christ in the bosom, and not behind Putin’s bosom ... although for AHLa, in principle, the difference is not big ...
  37. -8
    15 October 2020 10: 29
    "In the case of Belarus, everything is the same, only the role of Ukrainian Nazis is played by security officials, judges and state officials." It's the same in Ukraine ...
  38. +1
    15 October 2020 10: 47
    Old Man is an eccentric with the letter M. And his shoals can be listed for a long time. Again, when Lukashenka’s socialism was used as an example for us by various leftists, I just twisted my finger to my temple. By itself, it is not viable without external support.
    But with all this, Luka is still in our line of trenches. And those on the other side are just enemies. The Belarusian opposition is not sheep with placards, but the Polish Ministry of Defense. Someone thinks that after coming to power in Belarus the Poles will do something good for us? Can Belarus become sharply pro-Russian under the rule of Poles? belay How our crafty ally deals with enemies is not very interesting to me. ABOUT THE LAW IS GENERALLY RITTLE. LUKA IS ALWAYS FORMALLY ACHIEVING BY THE LAW, and the opposition did not even try to follow the legal path, but immediately began the Maidan. In general, how much Luke's actions correspond to local legislation is deeply purple to me. If it contradicts the law, then the law will be rewritten.
    The main thing is that while Luca is deprived of the possibility of multi-vector, he should be pressed for integration. A single foreign policy, a single currency, up to a single army. If the EU is discussing the possibility of creating a unified army, then what is not giving us? Well, for starters, the reorientation of Belarusian cargo to our ports. This will already be useful to us.
    1. 0
      15 October 2020 12: 34
      The fact that he acts according to the law, but there is no zmagara, yes. Just do not tell zmagars will undermine them something. They have a dictatorshiplaughing
  39. +1
    15 October 2020 11: 15
    Quote: carstorm 11
    Are you talking about someone who had served 7 years before, it seems, for inflicting grave deaths? He was so re-educated that he popped on the security forces? Is there proof? data? Or will we take everyone's word for it, like that red-haired girl with low social responsibility? they could slap in the face. I believe. put my muzzle on the asphalt also believe. but I don’t believe about needles under the nails and other clubs.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=miawZ8cGR0I
    If a person committed a crime (inflicted bodily harm on the mother's partner who mocked her), served time, left, then can he be shot at like meat?
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RrcaoCdlBvs
    Valiant law enforcement officers in the paddy wagon.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DYIHL1_PZns
    Okrestino-beginning.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-yO40xyW1tM
    Well, and a little about fair elections.
    1. -2
      15 October 2020 11: 51
      Quote: Anton S
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=miawZ8cGR0I
      As I understand it, this is the one who poured on the policemen who fired back from the Maidan? What was he doing there and what was the rhetorical question thinking about?
      Quote: Anton S
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RrcaoCdlBvs
      In fact, if you didn’t have enough intelligence to get around the riots, then you should not argue with the detainees, but calmly and silently follow orders, and not provoke them with meaningless conversations.
  40. 0
    15 October 2020 11: 36
    They walk with flags: Poland, Austria, Khazar Kaganate. And everyone is silent. We also have flags but they can be planted for them and they can get away with it.
    1. 0
      15 October 2020 14: 10
      To light a fire in the center of the square and opposite the demonstrators, to burn these flags like on Red Square in 1945.
  41. +2
    15 October 2020 12: 20
    1 phrase is missing on the poster
    dementia becomes a diagnosis
  42. +1
    15 October 2020 12: 28
    Quote: carstorm 11
    I have not met toilet bowls washing Belarusians.

    I also have not met the toilet bowls that wash Belarusians. but it would be interesting to see laughing
  43. +4
    15 October 2020 12: 33
    IN rubs comments. Skamarokhov he is. https://svpressa.ru/society/article/140442/
  44. 0
    15 October 2020 12: 33
    Quote: g1v2
    while Luka is deprived of the possibility of multi-vector, he must be pressed for integration

    the problem is that our Moscow oligarchs want to privatize the entire economy of Belarus during integration. That is why Lukashenka is jittery.
    If we want integration, then we need to do it in practice, and not try to devour an ally.
  45. +2
    15 October 2020 12: 38
    Quote: Anton S
    I would not have won either the first or the second. They voted not for Tikhanovskaya, but against Lukashenka.

    Would have won either in 1 or in the second. They voted not for LUkashenko, but against Tikhanovskaya. How do you like Ilon Musk? hi
  46. +1
    15 October 2020 12: 43
    Quote: T.A.V.
    against dictatorship

    Where is the evidence that this is a dictatorship?
  47. -6
    15 October 2020 13: 02
    It seems that Lukashenka's gang is playing a "difficult game". Most likely, the "opposition" is being conducted. And the war in Karabakh gives him hope.
  48. -3
    15 October 2020 13: 02
    Life can be ironic. I always scolded Skomorokhov for his all-European articles, and who would have thought - an old communist suddenly writes an article with an attempt to look at our country objectively.
    I am honestly surprised, and very glad that at least someone admits the idea that behind all this there is not a conspiracy of the West, but one mustachioed rat, holding power by force, and a people who have lost patience.
    Thanks, Roman.
    1. +2
      16 October 2020 10: 43
      Quote: Gost2012
      Life can be ironic. I always scolded Skomorokhov for his all-European articles, and who would have thought - an old communist suddenly writes an article with an attempt to look at our country objectively.
      I am honestly surprised, and very glad that at least someone admits the idea that behind all this there is not a conspiracy of the West, but one mustachioed rat, holding power by force, and a people who have lost patience.
      Thanks, Roman.

      Join.
  49. -1
    15 October 2020 13: 20
    Quote: KJIETyc
    Quote: Anton S
    I would not have won either the first or the second. They voted not for Tikhanovskaya, but against Lukashenka.

    Would have won either in 1 or in the second. They voted not for LUkashenko, but against Tikhanovskaya. How do you like Ilon Musk? hi

    If they really voted for him, all this would not have happened. The people know that he was robbed, so the protests do not subside. About Elon Musk, very fresh and original, I appreciated.
  50. 0
    15 October 2020 13: 29
    Quote: Gost2012
    Life can be ironic. I always scolded Skomorokhov for his all-European articles, and who would have thought - an old communist suddenly writes an article with an attempt to look at our country objectively.
    I am honestly surprised, and very glad that at least someone admits the idea that behind all this there is not a conspiracy of the West, but one mustachioed rat, holding power by force, and a people who have lost patience.
    Thanks, Roman.

    I completely agree with you, but as always, in countries where not everything is in order, the authorities start yelling about the intrigues of imperialist predators))
  51. +1
    15 October 2020 13: 47
    Quote: carstorm 11
    why should they apologize? these are the principles of any state in the world, the right to violence. for some reason it does not come to me. probably due to the fact that I simply do not break the laws and do not participate in mass booths.

    Well, yes, everything is correct, you can rig elections, usurp power, and then use your right to violence (I have power, no matter how I got it, and I don’t break laws, I write them and, if necessary, change them to suit myself depending on the situation and the voice, by the way, I also think. Life is good (for me), and whoever is dissatisfied, you can shoot at him, he is against me, and I am the government.
  52. 0
    15 October 2020 13: 48
    It’s funny, the yellow vests have been rioting for 1,5 years and nothing, “a normal democratic process”, but 3 months of troubles in Belarus, this is already thin ice under the feet of the “tyrant” - Lukashenko))))). Well, bravo author, you just want to wipe away the light elven European tear, cast a menacing glance towards Mordor and you, as usual to the elves, shout - S-U-G-S!!! Damn the cottage cheese!!! And the article is knowledgeable)))) Respect to the author am
  53. -1
    15 October 2020 13: 49
    Thanks for the articles. Skomorokhov is the only one who understands the real picture in Belarus.
  54. -3
    15 October 2020 13: 51
    The article is very well written. Everything is as it is. Lukashenko annoyed his people, rigged the elections and now retains power by force.
    I look out the window and what do I see? In the windows of neighboring houses (every house) I can see several white-red-white flags. At rallies against the authorities, I see thousands of opponents of Lukashenko. In every company, courtyard, queue, public transport, I hear people cursing the current government and the atrocities of the regime.
    Where do I see state flags? I see them on government buildings and paddy wagons. Why don’t people hang state flags in their windows if Lukashenko has more than 80% support? Why hold a secret inauguration? Why go to a pre-trial detention center to see arrested oppositionists?
    Now Lukashenko enjoys the support of approximately 5-10% of the population and the riot police. King of the riot police.
    At the same time, the economy is heading into the abyss at full steam. Loans at 30% per annum are something like that. Go buy an apartment or build a house.
    If the Russians are ready to feed Lukashenko’s regime (approximately 3-5 billion dollars a year), then with such support it can hold out for another couple of years. But in any case, I don’t see how he will last at the helm for more than 2-3 years. He's baked.
    1. -4
      15 October 2020 14: 14
      When you overthrow Luka, do you think loans will be cheaper? or will you immediately become rich?
      1. -3
        15 October 2020 14: 21
        There will definitely be fewer tortures, beatings, and rapes in the police department. Regarding loans and the economy, loans will become more accessible, but they will only be needed at first because... then the causes of the unprofitable economy will be eliminated. No one thinks that they will immediately become richer, and it’s not about wealth. The issue here is torture and murder of civilians. Well, it’s enough to look at the development of the economy over the past 10 years to understand that the current regime showed its maximum 10 years ago. As soon as the story with free Russian oil ended, the economy immediately began to fall and debt obligations to grow. This is how anyone can rule a country.
        1. -5
          15 October 2020 14: 34
          only in conjunction with Russia can the economy survive, the onion can be driven out, the main thing is not to change the course of your country
          1. 0
            15 October 2020 14: 46
            So no one is going to tell me the course of the country. We don’t have headless Bendera people here. All representatives of the opposition (except for some unknown fringes) are in favor of further cooperation with Russia. It is only our official propaganda that is trying to scare people with the fact that the oppositionists want to join the EU. I didn’t see EU flags at all at the rallies. There was a case at a rally that a guy brought a Polish flag - so they kindly asked him to remove it. That's all. People want Lukashenko’s resignation and punishment for those responsible for abusing people. There are no other requirements.
            1. -5
              15 October 2020 14: 57
              this is right, I support this
        2. 0
          20 October 2020 20: 45
          There will be no less, but an order of magnitude more. Everyone who is currently serving will be dispersed, property will naturally be redistributed and the bandits will rush to power. The newly minted cops will understand the taste of uncontrolled power and will begin to run amok to the fullest. We know it happened in the 90s, since then we have more than enough “werewolves in uniform.” Well, there won’t be a country as such at all. That’s not why Poland is trying, if you think for you, then congratulations.
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  56. PIT
    0
    15 October 2020 14: 46
    Another accordion :) All those protesting need to be disposed of.... The whole world understands this.....
  57. 0
    15 October 2020 14: 50
    “They breathe grass, they don’t care about anything...”//E. Letov//
  58. 0
    15 October 2020 14: 53
    Here's everything you need to know about how the elections took place https://news.tut.by/society/704206.html?utm_campaign=recirculation_relap&utm_medium=main_news&utm_source=%7Bsource%7D&mainnews=
  59. 0
    15 October 2020 15: 15
    And my posting in which I expressed my negative opinion about the article and expressed my point of view about the motivation for writing the article Skomorokhov was deleted and banned. With the wording "for trolling". That's freedom of opinion...
  60. 0
    15 October 2020 15: 26
    Quote: Bearded
    Quote: Anton S
    "The law, representatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other structures involved in the protection of law and order are granted the right, mind you - the exclusive right. To violence and the use of weapons" - ie. now you can blame people, and then say: excuse me, I have an exclusive right?
    "A normal person is busy raising children (and if they are not there, decides whether to appear), building a house, planting a tree, hunting a mammoth (earning money for food), he has no time to" overthrow an unwanted dictator. "- Everyone has their own understanding of normality, normal a person does not want to feel like a cattle in his country.

    If you feel like a cattle, maybe this is a natural feeling?
    Man sounds proudly. Better to die standing than live on your knees. I live like this and don't feel like a cattle. And anyone in the forehead charge, regardless of his position and social status, if he tries to oppress me.

    So people in Belarus don’t feel like cattle, but only one person perceives them as cattle. And these people want to live standing, and not die standing or on their knees.
    About the natural feeling - past.
    To charge it head on, try to do it in the Republic of Belarus, people want to solve everything peacefully.
  61. +1
    15 October 2020 15: 32
    Quote: The Stoker
    Quote: Anton S
    your message: that you are mad with fat in your Republic of Belarus, you don’t fall out of hunger, and okay. With all my love for Russia (I say this without irony), there are other countries in the world with which the standard of living of the population of Belarus can be compared

    What are you calling for?
    In which country, with a socially oriented state, the standard of living of the population is incomparably higher than yours in Belarus?

    How much does 1 year of study at a university in Belarus cost?

    What medical services are included in the "list of urgent medical services" provided free of charge in your hospitals?

    How many loaves of bread can you buy for unemployment benefits?

    I know little about your everyday life ... tell us.

    I only urge that elections must be held fairly and votes counted correctly, and everything else is secondary. None of this would have happened if the elections had not been rigged.
    1. -1
      16 October 2020 11: 32
      Quote: Anton S
      None of this would have happened if the elections had not been rigged.

      ===
      I think everything would be the same. or it would be even worse if Lukashenko followed Yanukovych.
  62. +4
    15 October 2020 15: 35
    “To be beaten, you just need to go out into the street and walk or drive about your business.” Maybe I’m walking around a different Minsk and passed by ghosts in uniform, but for some reason I was never stopped or beaten. Author, get off the couch. Have you been to Minsk at all? Civil society? And those who don’t like this women’s brothel, who are they? ? And the disingenuousness of liberals and companies always came across. Interesting selection of photos you have. Why are there no photos of Molotov cocktails, raids on the police, or marches in support of the authorities? Only respect for the site keeps you from saying the words you deserve
    1. -3
      15 October 2020 18: 28
      Dema
      ....You have an interesting selection of photos. Why are there no photos of Molotov cocktails, raids on the police, or marches in support of the authorities? Only respect for the site keeps you from saying the words you deserve

      That's right to the point! good
      Only respect for the site keeps the Russian sofa adherent of “Belomaidan”, an obvious “victim” of the burry Svetka Kotletka and the pop-eyed Styopka Nikto, from giving well-deserved words! fool
    2. +2
      16 October 2020 23: 26
      Quote: Dema
      “To be beaten, you just need to go out into the street and walk or drive about your business.” Maybe I’m walking around a different Minsk and passed by ghosts in uniform, but for some reason I was never stopped or beaten. Author, get off the couch. Have you been to Minsk at all? Civil society? And those who don’t like this women’s brothel, who are they? ? And the disingenuousness of liberals and companies always came across. Interesting selection of photos you have. Why are there no photos of Molotov cocktails, raids on the police, or marches in support of the authorities? Only respect for the site keeps you from saying the words you deserve

      Dema, you are wasting your time. There were no cocktails, and there were no particularly large marches in support of the authorities (state employees were brought in and taken away on buses), they stood there and left. All support for the AHL, like its inauguration, is all hidden.
  63. +2
    15 October 2020 15: 41
    Quote: Anton S
    Quote: Gost2012
    Life can be ironic. I always scolded Skomorokhov for his all-European articles, and who would have thought - an old communist suddenly writes an article with an attempt to look at our country objectively.
    I am honestly surprised, and very glad that at least someone admits the idea that behind all this there is not a conspiracy of the West, but one mustachioed rat, holding power by force, and a people who have lost patience.
    Thanks, Roman.

    I completely agree with you, but as always, in countries where not everything is in order, the authorities start yelling about the intrigues of imperialist predators))

    You're right. They yell that it was not the people who elected their president, but some Kremlinbots from overseas. Oh, I’m not talking about that country, everything is fine in this country.
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  65. +2
    15 October 2020 16: 58
    But the problem of Belarus is much deeper, there is not just a conflict between the “upper and lower classes”, there is a complete unwillingness of the authorities to enter into dialogue with the people, and vice versa, a pronounced desire to live according to the model and likeness of the past.

    But the world is changing, it has changed in this case, completely oblivious to the unwillingness of the Belarusian authorities to change with it.

    It was not for nothing that I put lines from the famous song of our Yegor Letov at the beginning. They are prophetic in many ways. And the unwillingness of the Belarusians to live in the old way can really become ice under Mr. Lukashenka's patent boots.
    Maybe he’ll worry about these questions right under his nose? That is, in your own country? sad
  66. +1
    15 October 2020 17: 27
    Quote: Dart2027
    Quote: Anton S
    And I have to upset you, I am a Belarusian, not a SOROSOV FOOD.

    That is, you save him money by working for him for free.

    That is, whoever is against Lukashenko works for Soros?
  67. +1
    15 October 2020 17: 53
    Youth are against Lukashenko, what difference does it make whether he leaves now or not, young people will come to power sooner or later and they will make a turn to the west. The Russian Federation cannot offer anything to the youth of Belarus, and we have the same of our own) The West can be said to have won this war, raised future generations loyal to it and sharing its values. All he can do is wait, although he is trying to speed it up. After all, where are the rallies in support of Lukashenko? (not those catchy ones) After all, if it turned out to be about the same, then the protests went away.
  68. 0
    15 October 2020 18: 31
    Quote: PIT
    Another accordion :) All those protesting need to be disposed of.... The whole world understands this.....

    Well, then the vast majority of Belarusians need to be disposed of.
  69. +1
    15 October 2020 18: 34
    Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
    Youth are against Lukashenko, what difference does it make whether he leaves now or not, young people will come to power sooner or later and they will make a turn to the west. The Russian Federation cannot offer anything to the youth of Belarus, and we have the same of our own) The West can be said to have won this war, raised future generations loyal to it and sharing its values. All he can do is wait, although he is trying to speed it up. After all, where are the rallies in support of Lukashenko? (not those catchy ones) After all, if it turned out to be about the same, then the protests went away.

    It’s not just young people who are against it, he has no support from any segment of the population
  70. +1
    15 October 2020 18: 39
    Quote: Odessa Greek
    It’s funny, the yellow vests have been rioting for 1,5 years and nothing, “a normal democratic process”, but 3 months of troubles in Belarus, this is already thin ice under the feet of the “tyrant” - Lukashenko))))). Well, bravo author, you just want to wipe away the light elven European tear, cast a menacing glance towards Mordor and you, as usual to the elves, shout - S-U-G-S!!! Damn the cottage cheese!!! And the article is knowledgeable)))) Respect to the author am

    In France, when the election time comes, the French will come and vote against Macron in fair and transparent elections if they want, but what happened in Belarus was not an election.
  71. 0
    15 October 2020 19: 22
    This reminds me of something
  72. +2
    15 October 2020 20: 10
    Quote: The same Lech
    You carefully read my commentary, I wrote there that the protest is purely pro-Western, that is, against Russia, they want to go to Poland and the EU.

    Yes, I read it ... I'm just interested in the inner world of these protestors ... what they are fundamentally ... you need to understand their motives from the inside and what position they occupy in society.

    Quote: The same Lech
    You carefully read my commentary, I wrote there that the protest is purely pro-Western, that is, against Russia, they want to go to Poland and the EU.

    Yes, I read it ... I'm just interested in the inner world of these protestors ... what they are fundamentally ... you need to understand their motives from the inside and what position they occupy in society.

    The motives and the situation are different. Millions of voters voted against Lukashenko. Hundreds of thousands of them go to protests. All segments of the population.
  73. +4
    15 October 2020 20: 21
    Quote: Nastia Makarova
    only in conjunction with Russia can the economy survive, the onion can be driven out, the main thing is not to change the course of your country

    Yes, in Belarus the absolute majority understands that close cooperation and good relations with Russia are necessary. We will not vote for scumbags who advocate breaking ties that have been built up over decades. There are no such chances.
    1. -4
      16 October 2020 03: 34
      You're an eccentric! When the pro-Western bastard gets to power, he will act on orders from the West, as is happening in Ukraine, and no one will question you and others, and the protestors will be beaten or buried by stormtroopers like the National Battalions in Ukraine.
  74. +1
    15 October 2020 21: 50
    Why are Belarusians, those who go on strike, hold rallies and engage in all sorts of other obscenities, dragging their country under the knife? Has everyone suddenly gone crazy? Or did this mass of people have no intelligence before?
  75. 0
    15 October 2020 23: 56
    Quote: Olgovich
    Here's what to remember and at least KNOW

    A CONFIDENT has been found......
  76. 0
    16 October 2020 00: 00
    Quote: Cottodraton
    Before acting out, collective farm chairman

    And it will also create problems for Russia.....
  77. -4
    16 October 2020 01: 09
    Roman, you should come to the Republic of Belarus and ask these “zmagarou” (white) = fighters what they lack and what they want. I live here and I asked. The answers of these teenagers with iPhones instead of brains: “We want freedom,” “Let him go!”, “I’m tired of it.” To the question "What kind of freedom do you want or what kind of freedom do you lack?" - they stare stupidly and don’t know what to say. Most people wandering around on Sundays simply have a herd feeling, and also the guys want to get a dose of adrenaline from running away from the riot police. Yes, the organizers are inventing new moves, like the "pensioners' march". But who is marching in it? All the same Zmagars from the 90s, members of the Belarusian Popular Front, Hromada, Charter-77, etc. (These are all pro-Western, nationalist, anti-Russian parties and organizations , paid for by the West. In the 90s, the United States officially allocated millions of dollars to support these collaborators, the heirs of the policemen of the Second World War, running around with the policemen's white-chyrvon-white rags. In the 90s, they paid 3, then 5, then 10 dollars for coming to the demonstration and these sums allocated by the US State Department. Activists of these organizations bought apartments, dachas, cars for the sums they kept for themselves, and traveled around Europe.) And you say the people are against. Against - only some 250 -300 so-called socially active inadequates among whom Football fans, former ZKs and outright psychopaths are running around. And the PEOPLE work and create value, provide themselves and Belarus with products.
    And I don’t feel sorry for those who were beaten! We ran into it ourselves. In the 90s, we ourselves raced bnfyo in Minsk and Vitebsk. And your article resembles the lamentations of Leopold the cat.
  78. 0
    16 October 2020 02: 16
    and those who were dissatisfied with everything were at all times. And if these idiots are given some kind of goal, then things like in Belarus will happen. I have a neighbor living on the landing, for whom Putin is to blame for all his problems. Everything would be fine, but I live in Ukraine and my neighbor is over 50 years old. Now imagine if you gather a bunch of such idiots and send them to a rally.
    1. +1
      16 October 2020 11: 44
      Quote: Griffit
      and those who were dissatisfied with everything were at all times. And if these idiots are given some kind of goal, then things like in Belarus will happen. I have a neighbor living on the landing, for whom Putin is to blame for all his problems. Everything would be fine, but I live in Ukraine and my neighbor is over 50 years old. Now imagine if you gather a bunch of such idiots and send them to a rally.

      Now imagine another case (the insanity of the authorities grew stronger). And how to respect her after that
      ........


      The Vitseblanka woman asked the authorities to allow her to “picket” on her own balcony (and she was already tried for this). What did they say?
      In early October, the court punished the spouses Konstantin and Tatyana Severintsev, parents of politician Pavel Severintsev, for “picketing in a public place” - on the loggia of their own apartment. The husband received a warning, the wife a fine. Tatyana wrote to the district administration: is it possible to hold “mass events” on the balcony? Local authorities responded.

      Flag on the Severintsev family loggia
      Let us remind you that on August 30, peaceful demonstrators walked around Vitebsk. The column also passed by the house on Stroiteley Avenue, where the Sevyaryntsy live. Tatyana and Konstantin, as well as their friend Elena Yanushkovskaya, went out onto the loggia and greeted the procession with a large white-white flag.
      According to the police report, which formed the basis for the court’s decision, Tatyana “was in a public place - on the loggia of her apartment, and in front of other townspeople, she took an active part in the picketing: she expressed social and political interests using a white-red-white banner, attracted the attention of passers-by and showed hand gestures.”

      Judge Mikhail Yurchenko then asked whether the woman had applied to the district administration for permission to hold a mass event, which caused laughter in the courtroom.

      - What does it mean? Is my apartment a public place? Should I have run to the administration of the Pervomaisky district and asked permission to go out onto the loggia? What kind of picketing can there be in your own apartment? — Tatyana asked in response.

      The court then fined Tatyana Severinets 25 basic units (675 rubles) and issued a warning to her husband Konstantin.

      Elena Yanushkovskaya received a fine of 945 rubles (approximately 28000 Russian rubles) for participating in the same “action on the balcony” even earlier.

      Tatyana Sevyarynets wrote a statement to the administration of her district asking her to sanction “a mass event on the loggia of her apartment.”

      Two weeks later, a response came signed by the deputy head of the administration of the Pervomaisky district of Vitebsk, Sergei Borodin. It states that the loggia “does not belong to a public place,” which means it does not fall under the Law “On Mass Events in the Republic of Belarus.” Accordingly, permission from local authorities to hold “mass events” on the loggia is not required
      .......And this government wants to be respected!
      1. 0
        20 October 2020 20: 38
        When will your Tikhanovskaya and those like her come to power, a crowd of people who are hungry for the people's property and grab everything. And your poor madam will understand that there is nothing to eat in the house since there is no work, then she will respect your power, oh, how she will respect it, but it will be too late. We know we went through this moment in the 90s with one drunk guy who kept throwing himself onto the rails, and the Americans and our bandits were trashing the country.
    2. +2
      17 October 2020 15: 16
      Quote: Griffit
      and those who were dissatisfied with everything were at all times. And if these idiots are given some kind of goal, then things like in Belarus will happen. I have a neighbor living on the landing, for whom Putin is to blame for all his problems. Everything would be fine, but I live in Ukraine and my neighbor is over 50 years old. Now imagine if you gather a bunch of such idiots and send them to a rally.

      Imagine, here under the article there are a lot of people like your neighbor. They are also far from 17 years old, they live in Russia, but they have everything to blame... The State Department and the Soros. What's it like, huh?
  79. +4
    16 October 2020 07: 14
    Quote: Oprichnik
    So you Anton S. gave yourself away !!! All your complexes from fierce, petty, primitive ENVY. You and others like you are looking around, constantly comparing, drooling like a river - VON Tama is better, richer, more satisfying, prettier ... And they try to "dump" there at the first opportunity to suck on the trough. How many times have I heard mothers boast to each other: Mine lives in England ... And mine has already got a job in America (or, as an option, in Germany) Was in Germany and saw these "settled" as cleaners, clerks, dishwashers, prostitutes. And they were workers, teachers, employees, not taking out a pot from under the idiots with Alzheimer's.

    Your conclusions are strange))) Is the desire to live better a fierce envy? I don’t know where you get information about events in Belarus and about life in general. I just want to convey to you and other forum participants that the protests in Belarus are not pro-Western, not pro-Russian, they are pro-Belarusian. People want to live happily on their land. Everyone understands that paradise will not come in Belarus right away, after Lukashenko there will be a lot of crap to clean up, and people are ready for this and understand that we need to start right now, we are already at 26 years late. One writer said: only after traveling around the world can you understand what is wrong in your home. So, looking around and comparing is not bad, but necessary. And being proud of the fact that you live in a der..me is not a good idea.
    1. 0
      17 October 2020 18: 08
      Yes, yes, no one argues with this. It’s just that everyone’s concept of what happiness is is different. And since any government in any country only needs a herd of animals (the beacon of democracy in the USA, where gangs were unleashed to intimidate the crowd, or in Western Europe, where migrants are used to instill fear, or Russia, where the fifth column blames the Soros for all troubles, as well as the favorite theory of the elite in the West about liberal Darwinism) and successfully raises them, it is natural that the happiness of this crowd is no different from animal aspirations. It's delicious to eat, sleep sweetly, and have more money for it. And to achieve this, any means are good (which, by the way, is the slogan of the Vatican mongrels - the Jesuit Order). That's why we see what we see. By the way, the video of those detained at the protests, which is posted by the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Belarus, perfectly shows these animals in human epic - participants in the Belarusian protests.
      For adequate people, happiness lies elsewhere, and that’s why they don’t go out to protests now, because they understand perfectly well what will happen next.
      1. +1
        17 October 2020 19: 15
        Quote: Griffit
        Yes, yes, no one argues with this. It’s just that everyone’s concept of what happiness is is different. And since any government in any country only needs a herd of animals (the beacon of democracy in the USA, where gangs were unleashed to intimidate the crowd, or in Western Europe, where migrants are used to instill fear, or Russia, where the fifth column blames the Soros for all troubles, as well as the favorite theory of the elite in the West about liberal Darwinism) and successfully raises them, it is natural that the happiness of this crowd is no different from animal aspirations. It's delicious to eat, sleep sweetly, and have more money for it. And to achieve this, any means are good (which, by the way, is the slogan of the Vatican mongrels - the Jesuit Order). That's why we see what we see. By the way, the video of those detained at the protests, which is posted by the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Belarus, perfectly shows these animals in human epic - participants in the Belarusian protests.
        For adequate people, happiness lies elsewhere, and that’s why they don’t go out to protests now, because they understand perfectly well what will happen next.

        I did not see any animals among the detainees. I saw them only among those who tortured them.
        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DYIHL1_PZns
    2. -1
      20 October 2020 20: 30
      Well, where is the bright-faced opposition located, maybe in Minsk. Or pensioners collect money for her, penny by penny. Or in Poland, workers carry your “national leader” in their arms.
  80. +1
    16 October 2020 09: 06
    As always, a one-sided interpretation of the situation. And photographs of the most “truthful” Radio Liberty. Libernytik.
  81. -4
    16 October 2020 09: 15
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: navel
    And the Belarusians should definitely help targeted, in the development of the Far East, for example.

    And you asked them if they want to master the Far East?

    Never before have I separated the Mordovians from the Russian people. But if you yourself emphasize your national identity, then I will answer you specifically in understandable terms.
    Whom do you think the Great Russians should ask something else?
    I think the Mordovians live quite freely on Russian soil. And it is worth preserving this tradition. However, if you personally want to teach someone, then go to the countries of your ethnic group (Finland, Estonia) and carefully remember what they will answer you. I can imagine it very well, but as a polite person I won’t write.
    And in Belarus, I consider two options for development.
    1. Realistic. Relocation of significant industries to the territory of Russia (in progress), reorientation of traffic flows to the Russian Baltic ports (in progress).
    Then the end of subsidies to the Belarusian economy, social services, the closure of markets for Zmagar goods. Collapse of industrial and agricultural production of Sineokoy.
    Reception by Russia slave. forces from this country on a quota - a certain age, gender.
    Without obtaining civil rights.
    2. Humanitarian. The entry of Russian business into Belarus. Preservation of about 30 percent of industrial and agricultural enterprises (not key) under the Russian leadership.
    The surplus of the population under the program for the development of the Far East - Russian passports and lifting.
    I do not consider the option of joining Belarus to Russia at all. It takes too many resources and there is no benefit. The rise from "reunification" will quickly turn into rejoicing from the fall in the standard of living of the Great Russians. People should not be angry.
    There will be no more Crimean phenomenon with the distribution of Russian passports to all residents of the territory that is part of Russia.
  82. +2
    16 October 2020 12: 49
    Quote: Victorio
    Quote: Anton S
    None of this would have happened if the elections had not been rigged.

    ===
    I think everything would be the same. or it would be even worse if Lukashenko followed Yanukovych.

    How would it be worse? The sun rises and sets not because Lukashenko is the president of the Republic of Belarus, it would also rise without him. If the votes had been honestly counted and he left, it wouldn’t have gotten worse, it couldn’t be any worse.
  83. 0
    16 October 2020 22: 02
    Yes, it’s time to annex the BSSR to the Russian Federation. And the West won’t do anything to them. The current runway is clearly not Faberge. It’s become a bit of a piss lately. The tramp is getting old!!!!
  84. -1
    17 October 2020 05: 49
    It’s disgusting to read the comments of the regime’s defenders. Like the prisoners who
    to be afraid to go free. Here in the zone there is at least a ration and a social package from the owner. Well, without a convoy, where are we?
    1. -1
      17 October 2020 13: 11
      Quote: Summer Resident452
      It’s disgusting to read the comments of the regime’s defenders. Like the prisoners who

      Yes, yes, yes... But when the “regimes fall”, then this only makes it good for those whose place is precisely among the prisoners.
      1. +2
        17 October 2020 15: 39
        Quote: Dart2027

        Yes, yes, yes... But when the “regimes fall”, then this only makes it good for those whose place is precisely among the prisoners.

        There is no need to create “regimes” this way, then they won’t fall.
        1. 0
          18 October 2020 16: 00
          Quote: Beringovsky
          So there is no need to create “regimes”, then

          Yeah, only in the USA, France, Germany, Japan, etc. they don't know about it
  85. 0
    18 October 2020 00: 24
    Quote: pro100y.belarus
    Understand - Lukashenka spit on people, spit on everything and everyone. He needs POWER, whatever the cost. And in this maniacal desire of his, he will plunge the country into an abyss even greater than any new president.
    And you are very much mistaken that Lukashenka is a pro-Russian politician. And if he remains in power, you will be convinced of this very soon.



    VERY ACCURATELY SAID!!!!!!!!!!!! And he needs power because there is blood on his hands. The only surprise is why in Russia (including Putin) they pretend that this is not so?????
  86. 0
    18 October 2020 17: 21
    Quote: Avior
    Did the girl survive three attacks without changing clothes or changing the condition of her hair?
    Didn't even comb her hair.
    I was always amazed at how easily outright fakes pass if people want to believe in them.
    The child was simply carried out of the danger zone by three people in turn.

    ...for some reason, all this reminded me of the story with Ilyich (Ulyanov) and his log at the community cleanup (or rather, all those who, well, sort of helped him carry it (the log)) and what’s interesting is that after the death (in the sense of death) Ilyich’s number these accomplices (in the sense of those who dragged that same log with Ilyich) increased by an order of magnitude... and there were ~37-15 such accomplices right up to the age of 30... and then it was cut off... so it reminded me, for some reason, of that long-ago the story is THIS..here
  87. 0
    19 October 2020 22: 52
    Quote: carstorm 11
    I really cannot adequately answer nonsense and nonsense) I'm not 15 years old, forgive me. I am quite literate to know the definition of Nazism and how to apply it.

    And I thought, judging by the mistakes, that you just started 5th grade.
  88. +1
    19 October 2020 22: 53
    Quote: karpusha
    If the Russians are ready to feed Lukashenko’s regime (approximately 3-5 billion dollars a year), then with such support it can hold out for another couple of years. But in any case, I don’t see how he will last at the helm for more than 2-3 years. He's baked.

    During this time, people like you will have time to be transplanted.
  89. 0
    20 October 2020 20: 24
    How many people go out onto the streets, just without lying. The protests have long since moved mainly to Minsk. Someone else doubts that agents of influence are muddying the waters. If this is not so, where does the money for all these “protests” come from, that pensioners have somehow given up. Lies. Normal people have long understood that if the Arab League leaves now, then Belarus as a country will disappear. But before that, it will go through all the stages of the collapse of Russia in the 90s and Ukraine in 2014. The bureaucrats, directors, and part of the “creative intelligentsia” will profit from this, but they are also thinking of grabbing a piece, but this is unlikely, well, even criminals will profit from this, and these will grab it to the fullest . In this case, the security forces face the fate of the Ukrainian “Berkut” or even worse. Then, during the course of the “reforms,” the rest will experience complete poverty and unemployment. And if the newly-minted “democratic authorities” then try to protest here, they will tell the FAS to the new security forces and no one will deal with any beatings. Even if they shoot left and right, no one in the West will make a peep.
  90. 0
    20 October 2020 20: 56
    An ordinary official corrupted by power. His departure is a matter of time. And there is no need to talk about heavenly punishments after his departure. How can the departure of an incompetent and bronzed official make the country worse? He gathered around himself complete liars and incompetent henchmen.
    And there is no need to talk about the small number of rallies here. Every Sunday tens of thousands of people come out against Lukashenko. And it was impossible to watch the pro-government rally of retired security forces without laughing. Some men in the uniform of former security forces and the Ministry of Emergency Situations of sheep. The whole country is against my grandfather, it’s just that not everyone can openly resist the repression.

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