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How does LDNR avoid infrastructure collapse?

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Civilian control?



Recently, criticism of infrastructure problems in Lugansk and Donetsk brings to mind the old song “Oh, don't kick a dead dog”. On social networks, they happily post dozens of photos of water pipe bursts and write heartfelt texts about how bad things are and will be even worse. Moreover, a real understanding of the scale of the problem, apparently, is lacking not only among officials, nor among the population, which still thinks in terms of the past decades.

This is an eternal, painful, populist question ... It is clear that every fool knows perfectly well "how to equip Russia", if only he could at least pay bills on time. The situation is aggravated by the incompetence of local administrations, a shortage of personnel and low salaries, a general burden of imbalance in the system ... So many problems have accumulated that it is impossible to take and fix everything at once, dismissing all the bribe-takers and non-professionals and flooding everything with money.

Repair of consciousness


It is necessary to repair the heads, because it is already too late to repair only the water supply system ... All this shaky housing and communal services system, inherited mainly from the USSR, and sometimes even from pre-revolutionary times, is dying loudly and with a bang not only in the Donbass, but also in Ukraine, in the Baltic States, in cities and towns of Russia. And it has not been possible to save it by simply pouring tens of billions into it for twenty years now: it is necessary to change much more conceptual “resources”. Namely - the consciousness of citizens who kill this very housing and communal services from both sides - both as subscribers and as operators of the system.

Because a careless attitude to one's own housing and energy resources, as well as the belief that someone should come and fix everything (so that later it could be broken and wasted again) is also a common problem in the post-Soviet space. I remember the 90s, when citizens were actively destroying power lines, taking away reclamation systems for building materials, cutting irrigation systems and entire workshops into metal with the same enthusiasm as they carried everything that was bad from their native plant. And now little has changed in their heads. It's just that the police work better and the objects of theft themselves have become much smaller. Everything has already been stolen before us, but people still try.

And no condominiums or housing cooperatives en masse can help here either. So far, only a few of us understand that responsibility for their own housing does not end with replacing traffic jams and repairing plumbing, but the housing itself - with an entrance or, at best, an entrance door. That we must come to terms with reality: housing and communal services in its traditional form is a rudiment, and everyone will have to spend and take care to keep it in a more or less alive state. Because this is better than chronically sitting without water and waiting for help from the water utility, which will not come, because there are dozens of gusts every day. By the way, I would like to remind the singers of the Soviet era how everyone, from schoolchildren to pensioners, regularly worked hard at subbotniks, exceeded the norm and helped the production (and the world around the world) as much as they could, and it was not so easy to refuse, but few were whining ...

There is simply no one to work ...


Over the past decades, we have worked together to destroy utilities, turning them into marginalized structures. The government, for its part, spent money on itself (politics, elections, administrative expenses) and a little on “protected items” - pensions, state employees, etc. The remaining pennies went to public utilities, which against the background of a total lack of funding, theft and destruction infrastructure and dreadful amounts of nonpayment turned into a haven for those with nowhere else to go. Or for resourceful and handy craftsmen who simply used their own housing office to get covens or even open their own business.

The state “saved” on financing housing and communal services and allowed the population to “save” on tariffs: of course, because the issue is political, and even in Ukraine it took two “Maidans” to stop artificially restraining tariffs and even start trying to make money on subscribers. But the trick did not work out: the population, accustomed to paying (and it is better not to pay at all) at penny rates, moreover, faced with the economic consequences of the 2014 coup d'état, did not pay. As a result, we are talking about some crazy amounts of debt.

According to the situation at the beginning of September 2020, the population of only one part of the LPR controlled by Ukraine owes money for utilities: for the supply and distribution of natural gas - UAH 1,207 billion, for heating and hot water - UAH 519,7 million, for water and sewage - 145,4 , UAH 139,9 million, for the management of an apartment building - UAH 44,9 million, for the supply and distribution of electric energy - UAH 24,3 million, for the provision of services for the removal of household waste - UAH 2081,2 million. The total debt in Ukraine for housing and communal services is about UAH XNUMX billion. So "European" tariffs are not a panacea, they still need to be obtained, which implies a radical change in the attitude towards housing and communal services not only of the government, but also of consumers.

Meanwhile, in Donbass


Considering that in the LPNR not only salaries are several times lower than in Ukraine, but also the tariffs are close to the minimum (since the republic receives gas and electricity from Russia at special rates, lower than in the Russian Federation itself, the cost of 1 kW * hour is from 0,8 to 1,09 rubles, one cubic meter of natural gas - 2,3–2,6 rubles). The average payment is still about 900-1200 rubles a month, so the situation with tariffs can be considered "consistently difficult", and utilities, even for these pennies, in the literal sense of the word, non-stop repairing their unfortunate economy. Therefore, the recent calls to “not pay” are quite worthy of the most severe punishments: in order to finish off the republics' housing and communal services, which are already close to death, very little is needed.

Indeed, the issue of control over officials (they are really unprepossessing in the LDNR, but where to get others after 23 years of Ukraine and 6 years of timelessness?) Becomes only more relevant, and there is even a possibility that the government in Lugansk and Donetsk will soon reach that for really effective control over public utilities, it is necessary to involve some civil institutions. But if at the same time they do not begin to severely punish not only officials, but also those who contribute to the destruction of infrastructure or do not pay the bills, everything will be useless. Bolivar cannot bear two: if the population does not realize its own responsibility and does not change attitudes, all efforts will be wasted. Simply because too many will continue to throw construction waste into the tank, and potato peelings into the sewers, turn on all available electrical appliances at the same time and plant gardens under high-rise buildings, and arrange mini-workshops in garages. In general, the infrastructure of Donbass needs to be dismantled together, but so far there has been no progress, understanding, or at least a frank conversation on this issue.
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  1. Interlocutor
    Interlocutor 16 October 2020 15: 10
    -2
    Araaaa. Yegorka finally belched out, on Saturday ...
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 16 October 2020 17: 31
      +1
      I don’t know how it is now, but these figures were discussed two years ago.

      in Mariupol, a salary of 4000–4500 hryvnia is considered good. Usually 3000–3500 hryvnia is the average salary of the "clean". In the DPR it is 9592 rubles "dirty", the average salary is about 5000–5500 rubles "clean". A good salary is considered 9000-12000 rubles "

      So, a resident of the DPR can buy essential goods for 358 rubles, pay for 480 rubles. a month's travel to work, fill a tank of gasoline for 900 rubles, completely fill a first aid kit from scratch for 923 rubles. and for 881 rubles, once a month to celebrate some holiday together. All this will take 3542 rubles with an average salary of 5500 and 1958 rubles will remain. In Mariupol, with an average salary of 3500, you need to spend 2264 hryvnia and 1236 hryvnia will remain.
      1. Niel-le-Calais
        Niel-le-Calais 16 October 2020 22: 52
        -2
        Quote: Terenin
        in Mariupol, a salary of 4000–4500 hryvnia is considered good. Usually 3000–3500 hryvnia is the average salary of "clean"

        Data 2015.
        5 Mar 2015 - Average salary in Mariupol - 3890 hryvnia,
        According to the State Statistics Committee, in the second quarter of 2019, the average salary in Mariupol was UAH 17, while in Kiev - UAH 114
        Donetsk region is the leader in average salary in Ukraine. Higher only in Kiev.
        In April, the average salary in the “DPR” was 14 rubles. (929 6 UAH at local exchange rate)
        slightly less. So the author is right.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 17 October 2020 08: 30
          +5
          Quote: Niel-le-Calais
          Data 2015

          Maybe Niel. Thanks for the clarification.
        2. Igor Semenov
          Igor Semenov 17 October 2020 13: 21
          -1
          I respect the figures presented by you, but they are 5 years old. What is the current situation?
          1. Niel-le-Calais
            Niel-le-Calais 17 October 2020 22: 10
            0
            Quote: Igor Semenov
            What is the current situation?

            In the second quarter of 2020, the average salary in Mariupol amounted to UAH 16876. And this is the largest salary in the region. This is evidenced by the data of the Department of Statistics of the Donetsk region. In second place are residents of Avdiivka - UAH 16510, in third place - residents of Pokrovsk (UAH 15897)
            Residents of Konstantinovka earn the least - the average salary is 8041 UAH. In general, in the region, the average salary in the second quarter amounted to UAH 12257.
            The highest level of average wages in the field of arts, sports, entertainment and recreation - UAH 30711. In second place is professional, scientific and technical activity - 19308 UAH, IT specialists earn an average of 17904 UAH, in industry - 13666 UAH, financiers and insurers - 13375 UAH, builders - 11746 UAH. The average salary of teachers and doctors does not exceed 9 thousand hryvnia.
            Thus, according to the DPR Ministry of Economic Development, the average monthly salary of full-time employees in January-July 2020 compared to the corresponding period of 2019 increased by 25% and amounted to 15 Russian rubles, which is 174 hryvnia (at the NBU rate)
            1st place in salary
            1. Zhdanovka - 25 202 ₽
            least of all
            17. Dokuchaevsk - 15 761 ₽
            the 2.3 / 1 ratio is unchanged.
        3. vVvAD
          vVvAD 18 October 2020 19: 56
          0
          The average salary is, of course, interesting, but not representative. The average salary in Russia exceeded 40.000, but most of the population did not receive it from this.
  2. prior
    prior 16 October 2020 15: 15
    +1
    "Minced meat cannot be rolled back,
    And you can't restore meat from it ..... "
  3. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 16 October 2020 15: 16
    +3
    but where to find others after 23 years of Ukraine and 6 years of timelessness?
    And how many years does it take to stop looking back and blame the previous government for everything?
    It turns out like that jester from "Knight Ivanhoe":
    "... All my life I dreamed of freedom, here it is, and what should I do with it now? ..."
    Our country rose up after the civil war. Rose after the Great Patriotic War. Moreover, in almost ten years. People have built houses, created / restored factories, factories, power plants.
    Where are these processes in the republics? Demonstration launches of repainted buses and harvests from Ukrop's greenhouses, please do not present.
  4. credo
    credo 16 October 2020 15: 18
    +9
    Yegor Mokhov, your first mistake is that you think too well of yourself by giving out such pearls - "... It is necessary to repair the heads, because it is too late to repair only the water supply system ... All this shaky housing and communal services system, inherited mainly from the USSR, and sometimes even from pre-revolutionary times, dies loudly and with a bang not only in Donbass, but also in Ukraine, in the Baltic states, in cities and regions of Russia .... "
    You have no idea of ​​the Soviet housing and communal services system, let alone the pre-revolutionary idea, and you do not even try to understand that it is thanks to the Soviet housing and communal services system that the housing and communal services itself has safely survived the last 35 years of chaos and chaos in all republics of the former USSR.

    The second mistake I made is that you yourself hacked the current topic by supplying the text with empty and meaningless phrases, such as this one - "... And saving it, simply pouring tens of billions into it, has not been possible for twenty years already: it is necessary to change much more conceptual “resources.” Namely, the consciousness of citizens who kill this very housing and communal services from both sides - both as subscribers and as operators of the system ... "

    If you have any suggestions on how to change housing and communal services for the better - offer, and do not engage in idle talk.
    1. URAL72
      URAL72 16 October 2020 18: 09
      +1
      "If you have any suggestions on how to change housing and communal services for the better - offer, and do not engage in idle talk." laughing

      Let the proposals put forward by specialized institutions and the Ministry of Finance. Can you imagine if everyone stops expressing what is boiling, thus moving the involved structures (and this is exactly what he wants), and starts to offer? Normal people will boil their roofs from an avalanche of crazy ideas. After all, it is the exam victims who will rush with proposals, because the smart ones must first think over everything, and if the muse has not visited, they will not write ... In general, you have now "banned" journalism. After all, not every article is written by an academician ...
      1. credo
        credo 16 October 2020 18: 54
        -1
        Quote: URAL72
        "If you have any suggestions on how to change housing and communal services for the better - offer, and do not engage in idle talk." laughing

        Let the proposals put forward by specialized institutions and the Ministry of Finance. Can you imagine if everyone stops expressing what is boiling, thus moving the involved structures (and this is exactly what he wants), and starts to offer? Normal people will boil their roofs from an avalanche of crazy ideas. After all, it is the exam victims who will rush with proposals, because the smart ones must first think over everything, and if the muse has not visited, they will not write ... In general, you have now "banned" journalism. After all, not every article is written by an academician ...

        Not every article is written by an academician, this is true. But an academician is not a pro in this area, if he does not know it from the inside.
        For example, I do not see a disaster in the housing sector, but I see specific problems that need to be addressed.
        Honestly, alarmism is the worst advisor in any area, including housing and communal services. If the author wants to highlight a problem, he can easily consult with housing and communal services specialists, and does not lump everything together.
        There are many examples of a positive nature in this area in the country and builders use different developments, including new experience and knowledge, so there is no need to raise panic.
  5. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 16 October 2020 15: 49
    0
    A step in front of military socialism or ugly military capitalism can only be made by discipline, at all levels of civil society. It should be in our heads. "No one will give us deliverance, neither God, nor king, nor hero." Unfortunately, the process is long and not fast.
  6. Deck
    Deck 16 October 2020 16: 10
    0
    tariffs are close to a minimum (for the benefit of the republic, gas and electricity are received from Russia at special tariffs, lower than in the Russian Federation itself, the cost of 1 kW * hour ranges from 0,8 to 1,09 rubles, one cubic meter of natural gas - 2,3– 2,6 rubles). The average payment is still about 900-1200 rubles per month,


    This is a robbery! Must be done immediately for free. And to pay benefits to all residents. Well, let's say, for starters, thirty thousand. Money will be found easily, Russians will work until retirement until 70 (Russians spend an average of 3826 rubles a month on a communal apartment). But then the residents of Donbass who are rested and have gained strength will be able to get down to work.
  7. Igor Semenov
    Igor Semenov 16 October 2020 16: 36
    +3
    Answer: no way. Even in Russia, with far more resources, the task remains unsolvable. LDNR is all the more beyond its power. Yes, and who knows - what part of the LPR budgets is subsidized by Russia?
    1. Niel-le-Calais
      Niel-le-Calais 16 October 2020 23: 00
      -2
      Quote: Igor Semenov
      Yes, and who knows - what part of the LPR budgets is subsidized by Russia?

      there is an opinion
      Snegirev, co-chairman of the Right to the Right public initiative, according to whom the Russian Federation has spent more than $ 10 billion on Donbas over the past five years.
      Russia spends about 0,25% of its GDP, or $ 2 billion a year.
      It remains to add that the payment of pensions in the "DPR" costs the Russian Federation 2,5 billion rubles. per month This is 30 billion rubles, or $ 514 million per year. In the uncontrolled areas of the Luhansk region. less population, so there are fewer payments.
      budget expenditures of the DPR alone are about 100 billion rubles.

  8. Maks1995
    Maks1995 16 October 2020 17: 12
    0
    BUT....
    "Considering that in the LDNR not only salaries are several times lower than in Ukraine, ..."
    And literally a week ago, I was assured in the comments that everything was wrong, everything was wrong ...
    And a year ago they wrote that it was one and a half times less ...

    The photo shows a Sberbank receipt ...

    In general, either there is F, or not F ...

    Judging that the Strelkovs and other volunteers left there, and they don’t seem to have a nose, the planned J.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 16 October 2020 17: 40
      -5
      Quote: Max1995
      Judging that the Strelkovs and other volunteers left there, and they don’t seem to have a nose, the planned J.

      Who put this nonsense into your head that the volunteers supposedly left us?
      Many have been fighting for several years in a row. And not only from the Russian Federation but also from the former Soviet Union and European countries ...

      Someone even created families ...
      1. German Titov
        German Titov 18 October 2020 14: 54
        0
        Zema! Why are you indignant. The same "Egorische Makhov" wrote. Lump of Analysts on the DPR.
      2. Maks1995
        Maks1995 19 October 2020 09: 11
        0
        Incorrectly expressed. I agree.

        Many chiefs have left. From time to time, the names of former commanders, chiefs of staff, military ministers, etc. come up. and all in Russia.
        The last time, in a kind of kidnapping attempt, the media directly listed which of the former bosses they would like to kidnap from Russia ...

        Somewhere there is the former chief of the LPR, too, with a secretariat ...
  9. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 16 October 2020 17: 57
    0
    How is it? Analysts pulled themselves up and ... belched. Need money. Where from? 2a ways! Only two! Everything else will be a symbiosis of both (the% ratio is different). The first is ala fish, the second is ala fishing rod. Subsidies (help from a senior) with the decline of everything, and jobs (help from the same senior) with revival. The second is only even more complicated (production and third-party "non-LDNR" consumption). But there is no one to implement a complicated way. Or the mind is weak or from the "beauty salon".
  10. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 16 October 2020 18: 16
    0
    "Infrastructure collapse" is the smallest of the troubles that will still fall on the already suffering population of the LPR. Alas...
    You have patience and strength to endure all this. Save you, L-rd.
  11. Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 16 October 2020 22: 45
    +1
    Who cares about this in the buffer zone?
    Is that simple local residents.
    But they have no money by definition.

    And the commanders-Strelkovs, local oligarchs and owners of enterprises, wrote, have long settled in the center of Russia.
  12. German Titov
    German Titov 18 October 2020 15: 21
    0
    Believe it or not. Housing and communal services in the DPR suits me personally. The city is clean, all the way (maybe I was so lucky). The only thing they get is the garbage collection and watering machines - they drive early. Not fatal.