Pilots of the Monchegorsk air group keep the air border of the Arctic Circle

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Pilots of the Monchegorsk air group keep the air border of the Arctic Circle

Pilots of the air group of the Voronezh air base of the command of the Air Force (Air Force) and air defense (AD) of the Western Military District, stationed near the city of Monchegorsk (Murmansk region), completed the next flight shift.

From the Monchegorsk airfield, flights were carried out by more than 20 crews of the MIG-31, MIG-25 and Su-24. The pilots practiced piloting skills in conducting long-range and close-range air combat with an “enemy” plane using offensive and defensive maneuvers in all height ranges (from 200 to 15000 meters), performed elements of complex and advanced aerobatics, as well as combat training exercises for intercepting high-speed high-flying targets.

In addition, one of the crews made a combat mission in order to control the flight of a reconnaissance aircraft of the base patrol aviation "Orion" of the Norwegian Air Force, which monitored the maneuvers of the naval strike group of the Northern missile ships fleetpracticing interaction and combat exercises at a marine training ground.

The main tasks assigned to the personnel of the Monchegorsk Air Group are to protect the state border of the Russian Federation and control the airspace over the Barents Sea.

To date, her pilots have spent more than 1000 hours in the air, fulfilling the tasks of combat patrols and training flights.




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  1. +18
    10 August 2012 17: 01
    Keep it up!
  2. +24
    10 August 2012 17: 13
    Russia has not died yet ............. new young pilots - new aircraft urgently!
    1. Specialist-
      +11
      10 August 2012 19: 36
      MIG-35 - has not died yet, and as before has no analogues in the world.
      The best interceptor of all time. 10 of these - form an insurmountable missile defense / air defense system, capable of destroying targets both in near-Earth and in near space.
      Glory to the USSR !!! drinks
      1. +12
        10 August 2012 19: 40
        Quote: Specialist -
        MIG-35 - has not died yet, and as before has no analogues in the world.
        The best interceptor of all time

        I completely agree - only not 35 but 31)
  3. +17
    10 August 2012 17: 18
    Such young pilots !!!!! good
    Low bow to all!
  4. Phase
    +16
    10 August 2012 17: 22
    I envy these guys. To fly on such a machine is not in vain to live life. And then they will fly on what - imagination is not enough.
    Clear sky!
    1. -18
      10 August 2012 17: 56
      Quote: Phase
      To fly on such a machine is not a waste of life

      Such a phrase about these aircraft would have been relevant 20 years ago. You can minus, but the fact that these pilots are flying on rusty buckets with nails so far will not change.
      1. -9
        10 August 2012 18: 21
        While flying on rusty buckets, bye, and God grant that bye.
      2. +8
        10 August 2012 19: 44
        Quote: patsantre
        You can minus, but the fact that these pilots are flying on rusty buckets with nails so far will not change.

        How do you say ...
        And by the way, amers on B-52 have been flying for half a century, and their F-15 have been released in 80's.
        1. -10
          10 August 2012 20: 43
          And now what do they equal?
          Moreover, their F15 and B52 have been modernized several times, and avionics there is the most modern.
          So your example about F15 and B52 is not about anything.
          1. Alexey Prikazchikov
            +4
            11 August 2012 10: 19
            So instantly up to BM upgrade. Moreover, so far nothing of the kind has been done, plus do not forget that for him a new rocket was made that oh how far flies. Yes, and the afar there is like a mini-Avax plus the ability to aim at the target and control the lungs for a moment 29. This is a cool airplane. I just keep silent about its speed and especially strong body.
      3. +11
        10 August 2012 20: 41
        Quote: patsantre
        , but the fact that these pilots are flying on rusty buckets with nails so far will not change.

        Well, if these rusty buckets inflict quite fear on the brave western pilots on their pepelats, then what will happen when a new technique arrives in the group. But she will do it, be calm, whatever you say ...
        1. with
          +7
          10 August 2012 23: 16
          Quote: esaul
          And she will do it, be calm, whatever you say ...

          Valera, good evening. hi
          Here you need to start with the basics: MOTHER SOAPED FRAME, otherwise she won’t understand!))) : bully
          1. +1
            11 August 2012 15: 10
            Quote: met
            Here it is necessary to begin with the basics: MOTHER SOAP RAMU, otherwise she won’t understand!)))


            Greetings buddy hi . I agree, but I’m afraid that this too is an overwhelming science for them. wink
        2. -11
          10 August 2012 23: 46
          Did I say she won’t do it?
          And how do you know who these buckets are causing so much fear?
          1. with
            +10
            11 August 2012 00: 06
            Quote: patsantre
            And how do you know who these buckets are causing so much fear?

            The study of the MiG-31 in Paris was summed up by a special exhibition issue of "Flight" - "Air Show Daily": "Outwardly, the MiG-31 is similar to its predecessor, the MiG-25, but it is a completely different machine, which takes advantage of all the advantages of modern electronic equipment. The MiG-31 is a powerful fighter, thanks to its all-round detection systems it is capable of destroying any enemy aircraft at any altitude. The MiG-31 cannot be compared with any other fighter of the new generation. It makes no sense to look for any signs of the concept of stealth in it. "or unusual aerodynamic forms, it's just a" war horse ".
            The MiG-31 is practically the only aircraft that can intercept and destroy cruise missiles flying at extremely low altitudes.To date, foreign analogues of the MiG-31 does not exist.
            Enough or start again --- 2 * 2 = 4?))) bully
            1. -1
              11 August 2012 17: 35
              Was this result of the study summed up when I'm sorry?
              And yes, also praise the Su-24 and MiG-25?
      4. +7
        10 August 2012 21: 52
        Radar Barrier back in the 80s saw further amers. They have not yet caught up with her. Maybe the planes are already rusty, or maybe not, but there’s no reason to refuse them
        1. Gemar
          +8
          11 August 2012 04: 47
          Quote: GregAzov
          but it makes no sense to refuse them

          Indeed, abandoning the MIG-31 would be a crime.

          Anecdote:
          -Houston, Houston! I am an eagle. On the radar I see the MIG-31!
          - Eagle, this is Houston! I understand you. Cross out ... laughing
  5. with
    +11
    10 August 2012 17: 25
    In addition, one of the crews made a combat mission to control the flight of the reconnaissance aircraft of the Orion Air Force Base Patrol Aviation of the Norwegian Air Force, which monitored the maneuvers of the Northern Fleet missile ships connecting the crew to combat and combat exercises at the sea range.

    Pulling NATO's mustache in the air is probably a sweet deal, the boys are having fun !!!)) bully
  6. +6
    10 August 2012 17: 50
    Along the entire border, you need to keep it locked, there are many more holes on the perimeter.
  7. pifagor1980
    +8
    10 August 2012 17: 54
    If there is no new equipment, then the life expectancy of these young men in an air battle with NATO and US forces will be insignificant seconds and minutes, regardless of the number of hours of flight. Plus, do not forget that the number of sorties between our pilots and the pilots of the USA and NATO can not even be compared !!! Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia. Like it or not, but this is a combat experience, albeit a bastard one, but a combat one ...
  8. +5
    10 August 2012 18: 03
    Great guys, a good smile and squint what you need! Clear sky!
  9. +5
    10 August 2012 18: 16
    The Nazis also moved rapidly across Europe and everyone thought that no one could stop them, because they had such an experience. And all their experience played a cruel joke on them when they entered the war with the USSR. All their tactics went down the drain, because the enemy was cunning and did not want to fight according to their laws and strategy. Easy victories in previous battles played a cruel joke on them. And who has not seen and does not know what the Mig-25 and Mig-31 are capable of, either an ignoramus or an idiot (forgive me for being straightforward). These aircraft are kept in excellent condition. And the fact that they have been in service for such a long time speaks of their amazing capabilities and potential. Unfortunately, research and testing on the development of the potential of Mig25-31 are not currently being carried out, and it's a pity that they could set many world records and once again wonder what these "oldies" are capable of.
    1. +2
      10 August 2012 19: 39
      Quote: uralkos
      . And who has not seen and does not know what the Mig-25 and Mig-31 are capable of, either an ignoramus or an idiot (excuse me for being bluntly)

      Come on, on behalf of the ignorant and idiots you say goodbye. So what are these aircraft capable of, educate the wretched please, please ask below. request
      1. +2
        10 August 2012 20: 14
        Just do not immediately rummage through the internet and flaunt sports records (there really are not a few of them) During the time of the king of peas, Mig-25 was used in the conflict between Egypt and Israel, where he performed intelligence functions, was not seen as a fighter, Mig-31 is a wonderful fighting machine but ... didn’t fight at all. By no means do I want to belittle their combat capabilities, but they do not have combat experience. Excuse me for the truth. Do you not love her?
        1. +5
          10 August 2012 22: 31
          I’ll tell you as an officer, it’s true that the armored forces had received a baptism of fire in Afghanistan in the 31 moment, there were enough foreign observer planes there, especially at the Pakistan border, but then it was under the stamp, sometimes they passed over the sound of the aul and all who it was there, they became deaf, they fought in Chechnya, they flew all the way from Perm and carried out intelligence functions, then also with Georgia, they aimed planes and missiles at air defense positions and enemy aircraft, so you my friend are not aware, look for such data on the Internet, then same as in the yellow press to get to the bottom of the truth, in fact, neither MIGU 31 has a replacement or analogue for us, nor other states, half of its capabilities are still under seal, in fact it is a flying radar and very good flying, plus also an interceptor, one such aircraft and a bunch of 12 29 or su 27 can control a huge space and F-22 he will notice much earlier than he appears on F on the radar, but you probably do not need to explain the speed and ceiling.
          1. -5
            10 August 2012 23: 49
            You don’t need to invent anymore.
            At the raptor, the radar sees further, besides it is hardly noticeable, therefore the distance at which the MiG-31 sees it is significantly reduced.
            1. +5
              11 August 2012 01: 55
              You know how many MIGs a phased array radar sees or you read Wikipedia again, my dear, this information is about seven locks, you don’t even know how many cruise missiles Russia has and their types, you don’t know how many BZHRKs were made and how many they were drunk, how many P-36orb and modifications are in the state reserve, use the garbage dump for less information, because it does not know the truth, but contact officers or specialists better, and the Spectrum-23 1984 electronic warfare model successfully suppresses the latest Avax systems.
              1. 0
                12 August 2012 19: 13
                Saburov Do you know how many MIGs have a phased array radar, or do you read Wikipedia again, my dear, this information on seven locks
                Yes, there are not many castles, the bar is secret only.
    2. -7
      10 August 2012 20: 46
      Quote: uralkos
      . And the fact that they have been in service for such a long time speaks of their amazing capabilities and potential.

      This only indicates the inability to arm with something better. Hopefully this will be fixed soon. Boasting 3rd generation airplanes, you will make the impression of a clown.
      1. Eugene
        +5
        10 August 2012 21: 29
        The clown is a man with the nickname "patsantre" who believes that the MiG-31 is the 3rd generation of fighters.

        The only MiG-31 in the world has the ability to use long-range V-B missiles.
        1. -4
          10 August 2012 23: 52
          A clown is a man with the nickname Eugene, who has laid bricks and dumped on me.
          Specifically, where did I call the MiG-31 the 3rd generation? Actually, I meant the MiG-25. So come on, it's better to sleep.
          1. Eugene
            +1
            11 August 2012 00: 16
            Quote: patsantre
            Specifically, where did I call the MiG-31 the 3rd generation? Actually, I meant the MiG-25.

            Then generally illogical clown.
            Quote: patsantre

            Quote: uralkos
            . And the fact that they have been in service for such a long time speaks of their amazing capabilities and potential.
            This only indicates the inability to arm with something better. Hopefully this will be fixed soon. Boasting 3rd generation airplanes, you will make the impression of a clown.

            And here then this comment is if the 25th are withdrawn from service, and the 31st are the first Soviet aircraft of the 4th generation and do not belong to the 3rd in any way.
            Quote: patsantre
            At the raptor, the radar further sees

            Yeah, well?) More right?
            1. 0
              11 August 2012 17: 40
              Quote: Eugene
              And here then this comment is if the 25th are withdrawn from service, and the 31st are the first Soviet aircraft of the 4th generation and do not belong to the 3rd in any way.

              Can we read, don’t I? I say again, it was about the 25th and 24th dryers, the 31st you came here yourself, and if 25 is not in service, then where did they come from in the article?
          2. with
            +3
            11 August 2012 00: 18
            Quote: patsantre
            More specifically, where did I call the MiG-31 3rd generation?

            Is this not your post or who writes under your nickname?))) bully
            Patsantre RU Yesterday, 20:58 Either they don’t have their own analogue, or they have nothing to oppose. Oh yes, of course, they don’t have analogues to the third generation fighter, because they have been standing in museums for a long time.

            Something you do not converge !!!))) bully
            MiG-31 (according to NATO codification: Foxhound - foxhound) - double supersonic all-weather long-range fighter-interceptor. Designed by OKB-155 (now OJSC “RSK MiG”). The first Soviet combat aircraft of the fourth generation.
            1. +1
              11 August 2012 17: 42
              Another No. I’ll soon break the skull with my facepalm. How many times will I repeat that I meant the 25th MiG when I spoke about the 3rd generation? And add the Su-24 to them.
          3. Azazel
            -1
            11 August 2012 02: 46
            Do not disgrace. You really look like a clown here. It’s better to cover the mittens and listen to what smart uncles say :-)
            1. +1
              11 August 2012 17: 43
              Quote: Azazel
              listen to what smart uncles say :-)


              If there is nothing to say in the case, then go to the teapot’s breadcrumbs and go to bed, quite champagne with pride, barely flying buckets in the face of the Su-24 and MiG-25.
  10. -5
    10 August 2012 18: 22
    Well done Pifagor 1980!
    Shake your hand hi :, maybe, all these puppy delights like, great news, to keep it joyful in the heart, etc., is very annoying and reminiscent of the notorious ostrich, which hides its head from problems in the sand. Why rejoice? Why? The flights of our surviving aviation? MiG-25 ... Su-24 ... how cool! PATSANTRE also well done! (+)
    What the hell aerobatics on this technique! In addition to the military U-turn and the barrels there is nothing to wrinkle boobs! And the first photo is a shame! I thought that this antiques in the Air Force no longer exists, but it turned out that VISP-75 steers ... Sad friends ... crying
    1. +3
      10 August 2012 18: 32
      Well done guys just do it, it’s theirs, and the fact that amers fly on their buckets with nails like F-15 and don’t know that they are buckets, write to them the same, let them neigh.
    2. +1
      10 August 2012 19: 51
      Interestingly, they put 3 minuses. Maybe someone will explain, otherwise it is not interesting. Maybe I, having served 27 years in the Air Force, didn’t understand something, maybe you are better informed? Well, who is minusanul, answer.
      1. +5
        10 August 2012 20: 13
        I did not do it, although it’s worth it, I will answer
        A true Russian does not whine that everything is bad, but takes what is and does well, and everyone is good, and you "served" for so many years, spent your time in vain, you just like not to do anything and get money, albeit small, but yet
        1. -5
          10 August 2012 20: 34
          afire
          You, out of ignorance of the topic, are trying to offend me, you wrote not in the case how what should be done well to a true Russian, and even, it turns out, EVERYTHING lol Without doing anything, I raped the combat training ground for aviation 12 times, this is where airplanes fire rockets, drop bombs, put all kinds of APiPP. By the way, 2500 hints. So I'm in the subject, but you are not. Often, after saying nothing, you look smarter. tongue
          1. +1
            10 August 2012 21: 39
            so shut up, I just learned to harass myself. Some children’s show-offs. Why are you handsome then gone? Where is your knowledge? Why aren’t you defending the country? Yes, on these old planes, there’s no other; what's the matter?
            1. -3
              10 August 2012 21: 57
              What are you still raising in kindergarten? laughing Why start a polemic if there is nothing to say. Well, get over it already, you are a pseudo-patriot sufferer who is wise with experience and knowledge.

              Oh, they started poking, it means hurt. I’m not a son of a whore, I served my own, the country decided what was needed in reserve. Okay, don’t get so upset, not everyone can serve the Motherland for more than a quarter of a century, come to terms. You’re not an interesting conversationalist, you’re done.
              1. +2
                10 August 2012 22: 43
                here and be silent in a rag! not a single answer, a warrior of gags, but for a false patriot I would have hit you with her god
          2. +1
            10 August 2012 21: 58
            They shoot from the barrels, and the rockets from the "start" button go off, the bombs are dropped. I apologize, what aviation did you serve? Such words are automatically spoken in the Air Force am
            1. -8
              10 August 2012 22: 12
              Yes, do not tease me, I explained to the child on the fingers, it is more understandable to him. IA air defense.
          3. +3
            10 August 2012 22: 13
            I am writing no offense, I myself used to work in the department at Mishin, so we should have crossed paths in your biography. Why such pessimism? Yes, it’s just great that in spite of all the reforms 31 there is at least a little bit left.
      2. -4
        10 August 2012 20: 16
        ..... silence, very eloquent.
      3. -4
        10 August 2012 20: 17
        it, I did not put it. and the "new" VISPs were developed with us on "Russia", which was successfully merged since it was necessary to build a business center in its place.
  11. +4
    10 August 2012 18: 29
    the good news for the anniversary is how to keep men, our holiday is coming soon and we will celebrate it with dignity !!!
  12. +4
    10 August 2012 18: 57
    You can see from their faces that they are happy and we are happy to see such a wonderful shift!
  13. pifagor1980
    +5
    10 August 2012 19: 02
    Uralkos But nothing that before the Second World War, many officers had the combat experience of a civil war, a Spanish and Finnish company? I’m not just talking about pilots.
  14. +7
    10 August 2012 19: 04
    Young guys realized their dream, became pilots. They serve the devil on the fuss, defend their homeland. Well done, good luck and success to you !!!

    PS Happy holiday Air Force Day. Happy 100th anniversary you guys !!!
  15. -2
    10 August 2012 19: 34
    Well done handsome, well, at least there is such scrap metal that is still flying ...
  16. +3
    10 August 2012 20: 27
    Good aircraft!
    The design has let down for the present times, but while the "enemy" has no alternative to oppose it, so that he could not fulfill his task, then why change it?

    ZY
    Quote: Nick
    By the way, amers on the B-52 have been flying for half a century, and their F-15s were released in the 80s.
    Do not be sick of comparing to compare everything with how they have?
    They fly because the paper on the "candy wrappers" has run out ... laughing
    In the army and navy, the country should not be like theirs, but better (and more)!
    And all countries will begin to listen to your opinion ...
    1. -4
      10 August 2012 20: 58
      Quote: mr.Man
      "enemy" there is no alternative to oppose him

      Have they understood at least what they wrote, either they don’t have their own counterpart, or they have nothing to oppose. Oh yes, of course, they don’t have analogues to the third-generation fighter, because they have been standing in museums for a long time. they can - and why? When these buckets fall apart by themselves.
      I wrote above about the B-52 and F-15, they were upgraded many times. From the B-52 and F-15 there is only a glider, and avionics and weapons are completely different.
      I’m glad for the young pilots, they will be happy if they transfer them to the Su-34 and Su-30/35 (and ideally T-50), which is what I wish them.
      And yes, minus signers, you write what you do not agree with. Or are you so stupid, do not want to admit the obvious, and the truth hurts your eyes?
      1. +2
        10 August 2012 21: 43
        MiG-31 interceptor fighter, and what planes of "enemies" can oppose him, so that they could quietly carry out reconnaissance or even bomb themselves?
        Is it intelligible? No.
        I’m glad of the young pilots, they will be happy if they are transferred to the Su-34 and Su-30/35 (and ideally T-50)
        Aircraft for a completely different task, not interceptors and what the MiG-31 can do they will never do ...
        1. -3
          10 August 2012 21: 54
          Well, your MiG-31 will be carried out with the help of more modern avionics with the latest weapons, without allowing to detect / bring down yourself, then what?
          Or, in your opinion, if an aircraft is capable of "not letting the bombing off calmly" then it can be considered highly efficient and modern?
          This aircraft may be unique in its own way, but not indispensable. Modern air defense and fighter aircraft can easily do without it.
          Although the MiG-31 is fine, let it fly.
          But what about the Su-24 and MiG-25? Do you think they do not need to be replaced?
          1. Eugene
            -3
            11 August 2012 02: 48
            Anton, returning to the conversation above, where did you see the MiG-25 in the Air Force !?
            They are not even in the version of scouts! Some are on conservation, but I’m sure they will not fly anymore.
            1. Gemar
              +1
              11 August 2012 08: 23
              "From the Monchegorsk airfield, more than 20 crews of MiG-31, MiG-25 and Su-24 carried out flights"
              Dear Anton, read the article carefully!
              I quote from everyone "favorite" Wikipedia:
              "In the Russian Air Force, the MiG-25Ps have been replaced by the new generation MiG-31 aircraft, and the MiG-25RB are still in service." Those. in the reconnaissance version is still in service.
              1. Eugene
                +1
                11 August 2012 13: 49
                Hmm .. and the truth RB-ki still remained. But they have nothing to do with interceptors, which is the MiG-31 / B / BM
            2. +1
              11 August 2012 17: 46
              Why then does the article talk about them?
              Do you also praise the Su-24?
  17. +1
    10 August 2012 20: 47
    Quote: mr.Man
    In the army and navy, the country should not be like theirs, but better (and more)

    The right thought! good
  18. sapulid
    +4
    10 August 2012 21: 07
    “The pilots of the Monchegorsk air group keep the air border of the Arctic Circle locked up.” This is too pretentious. Who knows what the Arctic is? Googling? Have you looked? It is a shame and painful that such a huge territory is covered with a small amount of outdated equipment, which cannot even cover it because of the range. And, the guys that serve, good luck and a peaceful sky. Thanks to them for their hard work.
  19. Sleptsoff
    0
    10 August 2012 21: 14
    Fuuuf, now I can finally sleep peacefully.
  20. gorkoxnumx
    +1
    10 August 2012 21: 38
    It’s certainly good that the guys fly, train, but again I don’t see new planes and equipment, and soon 2013 will be 7 years until the end of the rearmament and you still believe that this thieves scum is capable of something, I do not !!!
  21. Prosto vovochka
    +2
    10 August 2012 21: 51
    How pathetic. Primitive RSP-6. The battered MiG-25, and Su-24, and not much younger than the MiG-31. CLOSED the sky of Russia from the foe. Above said, "Buckets with nuts". And by the way. The MiG-25 was spotted in air battles. In Syria in the 70s. At that time, as a cadet, they studied the experience of air battles in Vietnam, Egypt, Somalia-Ethiopia, Syria-Israel at the department of tactics. So: the Syrians notice the F-4 at 20 thousand. They are raising the MiG-25. The Jews notice a Syrian. The phantom turns and leaves. Instantly start to catch up. From extremely small f-15 jumps out and bam, the 25th is ready. The classic of the plot.
    1. +1
      10 August 2012 22: 48
      What rank are you, I’m sorry, the first deliveries to Syria and other countries of the 25 instant were without the avionics and radars, without the radar warning systems that were installed in our country, and secondly, what sane person would be the electronic warfare systems, electronic warfare systems, radar systems , SO, advanced ones to give or sell abroad, even now they don’t do it, if you sell like that, you will change the systems on airplanes and in air defense every six months, which is very expensive, in the state reserve, there are even systems with 60x that were not indicated anywhere, but to the Arab countries all the more, knowing firsthand they are pilots, if the plane fell into the hands of Western intelligence with all the systems, it would be such a gift, although one traitor did it once, and even then the USSR demanded to quickly return the plane so that they did not have time to copy anything there and really did not have time , after so many years, they did not even make a similar machine.
  22. PilotSu
    +1
    10 August 2012 22: 24
    Brothers, what high technology do amers have !? Who draws information from the media ... and does not imagine what a real war is, of course, he will not say so pathetically! Beat, beat and we will beat! Glory to the Air Force and ANNIVERSARY!

    In war, their technology is flying to hell with a dog! Tested !!!
    1. -2
      10 August 2012 23: 17
      ok, back to the technology of the second world, since technology is not needed.
  23. +6
    10 August 2012 22: 25
    How tired of this srach on the forum. Lord! When will you finish messing each other up? Well, does anyone have a claim that they will not speak in the correct form? Tired of it. Sincerely.
    1. SSR
      0
      10 August 2012 23: 03
      and miss .. the Internet .. you can’t ... (almost) protect))
      forum format can only be changed by forum users themselves)))
      if louts (like me) trolls .. and paid oranzhoidy will not have recharge ..
      they will die out ..
      so IMHA .. do not feed the trolls and boors ...
      but I want to add from myself ..
      forum users .. hare yell .... cheers .. and more)))
      here it seems like they are discussing ... they should discuss the news))
      1. Azazel
        -2
        11 August 2012 03: 00
        Hurray is never harmful
  24. Uncle Serozha
    +5
    10 August 2012 22: 50
    Only a person who is not very knowledgeable can put a MiG-31 into a bucket of nuts ...
    Of course, I understand that many people like the advertising slogans from the series "Aircraft # -th Generation", but I did not understand the essence of the claims to the good old 31st. Maybe you can name an interceptor capable of solving the same tasks in the same jamming environment? (in advance: don't talk about Tornado IDS, don't tell me!).
    So?
    1. -2
      10 August 2012 23: 19
      All attacks are mainly in the direction of the Su-24 and MiG-25, under buckets with nuts they were primarily meant, this time.
      MiG-31 needs at least modernization, these are two.
      Modern air defense and fighter aircraft will do well and without interceptions, this is 3.NO, I am not saying that these aircraft are not needed.
      1. -1
        11 August 2012 18: 42
        I wonder what forces you will create a continuous radar field over the Arctic? During the Soviet era, the MiG25 was raised for this, which could fly for a long time and far and had a radar station and a repeater plane that was quite good for these tasks, which transmitted information not to VISPs, but for planners, who applied it to plexiglass. This system was supposed to be replaced by the A-50, but after the flight to Venezuela, there was no word about them at all. Only 31 of the existing ones remained. It makes no sense to modernize it. It makes sense to return to the modernization of the A-50, the creation of the Oka and the Flock.
        1. +1
          12 August 2012 18: 56
          Gregazov
          Dear comrade! You are trying to write about what you have no idea about at all. The Mig 25 had a Sapfir radar of various modifications in accordance with the modification of the aircraft itself. By the way, the sight was switched on for a short time. The information transmission equipment did not have and could not transmit information except as separate messages by radio communication by voice. By "airplane repeater" you mean A-50 "Bumblebee, which is not a retr at all, but a source of information itself, since it has its own RTK, being able to receive information from the 31st Mig. And the Mig-31 and A- 50.
    2. PilotSu
      +4
      11 August 2012 01: 09
      Uncle Seryozha! People who are illiterate in military affairs give such an assessment (buckets with nuts, etc.)! Absolutely not knowing the tactics and the slightest (I’m not even talking about deeper knowledge) principles of warfare. Conducting defensive and offensive operations of enemy troops and their own aircraft. What kind of work in the conditions of interference (active, passive, etc.) are you trying to tell them? I totally agree with you! Therefore, I propose not to waste time on broadcasts of this nature! With respect!
      1. Gemar
        +1
        11 August 2012 08: 59
        Uncle Seryozha! Why are you blinking so evil? belay A joke, a wonderful avatar!
        Quote: Uncle Seryozha
        Of course, I understand that many people like advertising slogans from the series "Aircraft # th generation"

        Indeed, they like ... even me! But something I have not heard that the "Aircraft of the 5th generation" participated in the database. And there are no analogues of the MiG. Especially with regard to the fight against satellites (if I am not mistaken, we have missiles for the MiG-31, capable of operating as much in the ionosphere).
      2. -1
        11 August 2012 17: 48
        I don't see any sense in continuing the conversation with the oakheads.
        1. +1
          11 August 2012 18: 45
          Egghead write a complaint to NATO. Why they do not upgrade ORION. Not a single decade has flown. Oversight !!!
          1. -4
            11 August 2012 19: 53
            hear, uasia, shove your orions into your anus, ok?
  25. vylvyn
    +1
    11 August 2012 00: 58
    On the 4th photo, the picture is cool on board. Thoughtful.

    Quote - "In addition, one of the crews made a combat mission to control the flight of the Norion Air Force base patrol aircraft" Orion ", which monitored the maneuvers of the naval strike group of the Northern Fleet's missile ship formation ...."
    I can imagine how our pilot’s thumb was scratched next to the air-to-air missile launch button. Interestingly, the Norwegians take swords with them on planes to die like real Vikings?
  26. +2
    11 August 2012 02: 41
    Pride bursts for our Great Country, the Strongest Power, Mother Russia! History proved, time-tested - WE ARE THE STRONGEST! We cannot be defeated !!! Well done guys, clear heaven and do not spare kerosene !!!
  27. -1
    11 August 2012 05: 15
    What evil spirits minus me for koment? Apparently some sort of corrupt Pindos Cossack. Write me, crack.
  28. +1
    11 August 2012 05: 46
    Quote: patsantre
    MiG-31 needs at least modernization, these are two.

    and their type is not being upgraded now to the version of BM?
  29. Michael67
    +1
    11 August 2012 06: 48
    Hello to all.
    One very clever man once said a very clever phrase: "Study, study, and study again!" Our new (young) pilots are to adopt, absorb, catch ... the experience and skills of Air Force veterans. Only they will be able (if they have time) to transfer their Combat experience to a new generation. Those who opposed us in Vietnam, Korea, Libya, Egypt. I have no doubt that this is actually the case.
    Yes. We have good technique. The question is the number and quality of personnel trained for this technique.
  30. cool.cube2012
    +1
    11 August 2012 11: 46
    Michael67 The question is the number and quality of personnel trained for this technique. The most important issue is the incompetence and corruption of the Ministry of Defense in the person of Serdyukov with his girls, chief of the General Staff Makarov and senior figures.
  31. Prosto vovochka
    0
    11 August 2012 19: 24
    Gemar,
    I do not know about rockets "for the ionosphere" (ha-ha shpets in the field of knowledge of the structure of the earth's atmosphere). But about missiles capable of intercepting targets in low orbits, I will ask the squadron commander of the 31st.
  32. ad3wsafdf
    0
    12 August 2012 00: 47
    The authorities of our country have done a lot, but this is already too much.
    I generally accidentally found him http://xurl.es/poisksng
    Here is information about each of us, for example: relatives, friends, correspondence from social networks.
    And most importantly, it is accessible to everyone, I was really scared at first - you never know what moron there will climb
    Well, the truth is that you can delete all
  33. 0
    13 August 2012 06: 45
    I am glad that in the photo the young faces of the pilots