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Armenian Defense Ministry announces another loss of Su-25 to Azerbaijani Air Force

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Armenian Defense Ministry announces another loss of Su-25 to Azerbaijani Air Force

The Ministry of Defense of Armenia presented a regular report on the course of the battles in Nagorno-Karabakh. At the same time, in the report published by the press secretary of the Armenian Defense Ministry Shushan Stepanyan, it is stated that the defense army of Artsakh (the unrecognized republic of Nagorno-Karabakh) "shot down the Su-25 attack aircraft of the Azerbaijani Air Force."


If this is a new report, then we can conclude that Azerbaijan is losing the second Su-25 attack aircraft in recent days. But the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Azerbaijan does not confirm information about the losses of its attack aircraft in the conflict zone.

Let's remind that earlier the Armenian side announced that it had lost its own Su-25 attack aircraft. At the same time, it was argued that the loss occurred as a result of a blow from a Turkish F-16 fighter. The wreckage of the aircraft was demonstrated, but so far no evidence of the use of the F-16 of the Turkish Air Force by either Yerevan or Stepanakert has been presented. However, then satellite photos appeared with the F-16s at the airfield in Ganja.

Shushan Stepanyan on Facebook:

Confirming that so far not a single rocket, shell or bullet has been fired from the territory of the Republic of Armenia in the direction of Azerbaijan, at the same time we declare that from now on, the armed forces of the Republic of Armenia reserve the right, according to the same logic, to target any military object. or movement in the territory of Azerbaijan.

Against the background of such statements, each of the parties to the conflict continues to declare that it is "observing the humanitarian truce." Agreements on such a truce were reached in Moscow, but so far they have not yielded results.
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 14 October 2020 11: 19
    +6
    Armenian Defense Ministry announces another loss of Su-25 to Azerbaijani Air Force
    According to their calculations, this is the penultimate one. One remained. All according to Armenian statistics. One more. And the Armenians will go on the second call to destroy the Azerbaijani Su 25.
    1. loki565
      loki565 14 October 2020 12: 36
      +6
      So far there is no Su25 wreckage, or video of the fall, in general there is no evidence. But what is the point for Azerbaijanis to use the Su25 when the role of the attack aircraft was completely replaced by the UAV. Su 25 can be seen, heard from afar, and even the infantry does not notice the UAV until the last moment. Su25 is much easier to hit from MANPADS, and at high altitudes it itself becomes ineffective.
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 14 October 2020 14: 46
        0
        But what is the point for Azerbaijanis to use the Su25 when the role of the attack aircraft was completely replaced by the UAV.

        So maybe Bayraktars have already ended? Losses. Besides, with all due respect to them, the Su-25 drones are not yet able to replace. An unequal replacement.
        Su25 is much easier to hit from MANPADS, and at high altitudes it itself becomes ineffective.

        The drones' speed is slower and they do not carry out an anti-missile maneuver. It is easier to shoot them down. Again, there is electronic warfare, heat traps are the same. So I disagree with you.
      2. venik
        venik 14 October 2020 16: 24
        +2
        Quote: loki565
        But what is the point for Azerbaijanis to use Su25 when the role of the attack aircraft was completely replaced by the UAV.

        ========
        Hello to you! Agreed! It's really straight and "completely replaced"...." Bayraktars "(used by Azerbaijanis) have a maximum missile and bomb load - as much 55 kg (!). These systems can only be used against single "point" targets (tank, vehicle, gun, launcher, or radar) and are good at low intensity wars. How to apply massive blow to congestion troops and equipment? Without an attack aircraft - only artillery or MLRS ...
        And the Su-25 has a missile and bomb load of approx. 4.5 tons (!). Even a single plane is capable of "disrupting" a column on the march or well fortified company stronghold!
        PS Do not be moved by Azerbaijani videos about successful defeats of single targets to draw premature conclusions about the uselessness of ground attack aircraft! "Behind the scenes" remains overwhelming part of the losses from artillery, MLRS, ATGM, etc ...
        Although UAVs are certainly capable of seriously spoiling the nerves of the enemy!
        1. loki565
          loki565 14 October 2020 21: 49
          -2
          Do you really think that in the modern conflict Su-25 will be able to fly up to the convoy and be bombed by NARs? And here is a clear example of this conflict, UAVs shot half of the air defense, tanks and art, thwarted the counteroffensive. The Su 25 could not even reach the conflict line, and it does not matter 50 kg or 4.5 tons of cast iron.
          1. venik
            venik 14 October 2020 22: 13
            0
            Quote: loki565
            And here is a clear example of this conflict, UAVs shot half of the air defense, tanks and art

            =======
            Directly and HALF ??? belay
            Here is the latest most real data of Armenian lossesfrom ALL types of defeat) for yesterday:
            6 - SAM "Osa", 3 SAM "Strela-10" (Total - 9SAM), 14 MLRS "Grad" (Total - 14MLRS), 5 - self-propelled guns 122-mm "Gvozdika" 2S1, 2 - self-propelled guns "Akatsiya" 2S3, 5 - howitzers 122-mm D-30, 1 - 152-mm howitzer D-20. (Total - 13arty trunks), 11 T-72 tanks (Total - 11tanks) ...
            What do you think that everything in Artsakh was 18 units of SAM, 28 units MLRS, 22 tank and 26 artillery barrels ??? And if you consider that not all of the losses from the UAV are even LESS? Are you serious??? belay
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            Quote: loki565
            Do you really think that in the modern conflict Su-25 will be able to fly up to the convoy and be bombed by NARs?

            ======
            HOW MANY times have they done it? yes
            1. loki565
              loki565 14 October 2020 22: 50
              0
              Well, they also hit the electronic warfare systems, radars and a lot of trucks. violated the logistics of delivery of ammunition and fuel, from which several T72s ran out of fuel ...
              And what is important, they helped to win the information war by providing video evidence of the defeat of technology.
              HOW MANY times have they done it?

              08.08.08 big losses with the enemy who has no aviation and medium air defense.
              Ukraine out of 4 confirmed downed Su25s and one more returned with damage from MANPADS
              1. venik
                venik 15 October 2020 11: 01
                0
                Quote: loki565
                Well, they also hit the electronic warfare systems, radars and a lot of trucks.

                =======
                Full list of losses (not only from drones, but also from everything else:
                6 SAM "Osa", 14 MLRS "Grad" BM-21, 2 vehicles of the complex "Repellent-1", 5 ACS 122-mm "Carnation" 2S1, 2 self-propelled guns "Akatsiya" 2S3, 11 T-72 various modifications, 6 tractors MTLB, 5 howitzers 122 mm D-30, 3 SAM "Strela-10", 4 BMP-1, 1 152 mm howitzer D-20.
                Azerbaijan lost:
                8 T-72, 2 BMP-2, 1 IMR-1, 1 BMP-3, 1 BTR-80.
                1. loki565
                  loki565 15 October 2020 22: 40
                  +1
                  The problem is that the air defense cannot cope with the UAVs and they have already begun to attack targets in the depths of the defense. There was a video of the defeat of the meter-range radar, as well as the KUB radar, and from the latter a radar very similar to ST-68 was destroyed
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 14 October 2020 11: 22
    -5
    the Defense Army of Artsakh (the unrecognized republic of Nagorno-Karabakh) "shot down a Su-25 attack aircraft of the Azerbaijani Air Force."

    Didn't understand anything about this proposal ... did the Armenians shoot down an Armenian plane or what? what
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 14 October 2020 11: 27
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Armenians shot down an Armenian plane or what?

      It happens ... The Armenian radio said that they did it anyway.
      1. t00r
        t00r 14 October 2020 11: 56
        +5
        - Is it true that chess player Petrosyan won a thousand rubles in the lottery?
        - True, it’s not only the chess player Petrosyan, but the football player of “Ararat” Hakobyan, and not a thousand, but ten thousand, and not rubles, but dollars, and not in the lottery, but in cards, and did not win, but lost.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 14 October 2020 11: 58
          -2
          Quote: t00r
          Ararat footballer Hakobyan

          The descendants of Noah who moored on Mount Ararat demand compensation ...
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 14 October 2020 12: 04
          +1
          Quote: t00r
          Is it true that chess player Petrosyan won a thousand rubles in the lottery?

          I almost won. They gave me tickets for the change, began to look at home, oops, the last figure of the Zhiguli did not agree. Bummer ...
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 14 October 2020 11: 34
      0
      Quote: The same Lech
      the Defense Army of Artsakh (the unrecognized republic of Nagorno-Karabakh) "shot down a Su-25 attack aircraft of the Azerbaijani Air Force."

      Didn't understand anything about this proposal ... did the Armenians shoot down an Armenian plane or what? what
      Alexey hasn't seen you on the site for a long time, so you don't react very much and belatedly. hi
    3. venik
      venik 14 October 2020 22: 22
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Didn't understand anything about this proposal ... did the Armenians shoot down an Armenian plane or what?

      -----
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      defense army Artsakh (the unrecognized republic of Nagorno-Karabakh) “shot down a Su-25 attack aircraft Azerbaijani Air Force ".

      ========
      I didn't understand anything either: you читать do not know how ??? what
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  4. Nikanet
    Nikanet 14 October 2020 11: 26
    +1
    Are the submarines in the Lachin corridor still afloat? laughing
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 14 October 2020 11: 29
      +2
      Quote: Nikanet
      Are the submarines in the Lachin corridor still afloat?

      The Azerbaijanis have one submarine. The enemy will not pass!
    2. AVA77
      AVA77 14 October 2020 11: 44
      -1
      You shouldn't be so, there is evidence. wink
  5. LiSiCyn
    LiSiCyn 14 October 2020 11: 32
    +9
    There is not a single video confirming the destruction of the Su-25 of Azerbaijan since the beginning of hostilities. No defeat, no fall, no debris ... The Armenians have already beaten them so much that at least one could be filmed.
    Most likely again, "super attack aircraft" An-2. what
  6. Alien From
    Alien From 14 October 2020 11: 33
    -2
    "" "The Ministry of Defense of Armenia presented another report on the progress of the battles in Nagorno-Karabakh. At the same time, in the report published by the press secretary of the Ministry of Defense of Armenia Shushan Stepanyan, it is stated that the defense army of Artsakh (the unrecognized republic of Nagorno-Karabakh)" shot down a Su-25 attack aircraft of the Azerbaijani Air Force "." "" V.O. what's the matter then ???
  7. Alena-Baku
    Alena-Baku 14 October 2020 11: 34
    -8
    Today Armenian Internet users complained that the Armenian leadership does not allow them to leave Askeran. Rather, they will hide behind like a human shield.
  8. Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 14 October 2020 11: 36
    +5
    Really, the Armenian side does not understand that even those who would like to believe this will not accept any statements at their word. Shot down show the wreckage, and so only discredit yourself.
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 14 October 2020 11: 42
      +6
      What is there to discredit.
      Both sides are outstanding storytellers.
      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 14 October 2020 11: 49
        +1
        We must pay tribute to the Azeri, they at least as far as possible reinforce their peremogi with photos or videos.
    2. Ruben
      Ruben 14 October 2020 18: 06
      0
      And what if the wreckage fell on the territory under fire or on the territory of the Azerbaijani military unit? What, send Georgians Kamikaze to take a picture?
  9. maktub
    maktub 14 October 2020 11: 44
    -7
    The Military Observer writes that Baku struck a blow at the territory of Armenia, at the places of deployment of OTRK, in the Kelbajar region
    What will the CSTO say?
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 14 October 2020 11: 47
      +8
      Quote: maktub
      At tgc Military Observer write that Baku struck a blow on the territory of Armenia, on the places of deployment of OTRK, in the Kelbajar region
      What will the CSTO say?

      And the CSTO will write something ...
    2. Smoked
      Smoked 14 October 2020 11: 52
      +4
      Well, as everyone charges their mobile phones and removes the consequences of the Azeri strike on the territory of Armenia, then what you are begging for will immediately happen ..
      1. maktub
        maktub 14 October 2020 12: 04
        -4
        The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan confirmed and stated that they reserve the right to strike at military facilities aimed at the cities of Azerbaijan
        1. Smoked
          Smoked 14 October 2020 12: 15
          +4
          They have one statement out there that is more ** tier than the other. This is the norm.
    3. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 14 October 2020 12: 00
      -4
      won't say anything
  10. MA3UTA
    MA3UTA 14 October 2020 11: 53
    +3
    The propagandists on both sides of the barricades forget what time we live.
    You read their bravura reports - planes are shot down in batches and tanks are burning like near Prokhorovka.

    The time is different.
    Everything is documented and a real picture is added.
    Lost Armor
    Here are Armata, and the military trade, from the conflict of Ukraine, other wars, here are only facts, without propaganda.

    LOSSES OF ARMORED VEHICLES AND AVIATION IN ARMENIAN-AZERBAIJANI CONFLICT IN NAGORNO-KARABAKH

    https://lostarmour.info/karabakh/#statistic

    Propaganda ministries must become more responsive and modern.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 14 October 2020 11: 59
      0
      Quote: MA3UTA
      https://lostarmour.info/karabakh/#statistic


      Quite right. I personally look once a day and see how it is there
    2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 October 2020 13: 07
      0
      Quote: MA3UTA
      Here and Armata

      Please give me a link. And then I myself could not find.
      Thank you in advance.
      1. MA3UTA
        MA3UTA 14 October 2020 13: 21
        +1
        Here and Armata

        Please give me a link. And then I myself could not find.
        Thank you in advance.



        They were exactly. Probably deleted., Yeah ...
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 October 2020 13: 27
          +1
          Quote: MA3UTA
          Here are Armata, and the military trade, from the conflict of Ukraine, other wars, here are only facts, without propaganda.

          That is, it was such a joke, but in fact everything is exactly the opposite?
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 14 October 2020 11: 56
    0
    Still, it is necessary to confirm such statements by photographing, otherwise it turns out that sometimes the losses exceed the availability of weapons according to the reference book. Lost Armor does this and, as a rule, does not coincide with the official data of the belligerents.
    1. LifeIsGood
      LifeIsGood 14 October 2020 12: 26
      -1
      It is not always possible to confirm the destruction of the target with video / photo material .... Well, for example, the target crashed on the enemy's territory and it will no longer be possible to take pictures of the wreckage.
      1. maktub
        maktub 14 October 2020 12: 34
        -1
        There was a photo of a n / a in the sight of the drone, before the defeat
  12. Lesorub
    Lesorub 14 October 2020 12: 05
    +5
    Armenian Defense Ministry announces another loss of Su-25 to Azerbaijani Air Force

    The Armenian Armed Forces at least somehow need to maintain a fighting spirit - that's why there are such reports about the downed Su 25 and UAVs.
  13. svp67
    svp67 14 October 2020 12: 07
    +1
    Armenian Defense Ministry announces another loss of Su-25 to Azerbaijani Air Force
    Soon Armenia will also destroy those planes that have been rotting in landfills for decades ... Are they unable to distinguish UAVs from Su-25s? Or is the award higher for "Rook"?
  14. svoit
    svoit 14 October 2020 12: 47
    -1
    Quote: Pavlos Melas
    Shot down show the wreckage

    And if in a hard-to-reach or uncontrolled area?
  15. Krest
    Krest 14 October 2020 14: 29
    -3
    The carnage continues ... There is an attempt to drag Russia into this stupid conflict ..