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In the Russian Foreign Ministry, the US statements on the START-3 agreements were called "thimble"

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In the Russian Foreign Ministry, the US statements on the START-3 agreements were called "thimble"

Washington's statement about the alleged agreements reached with Russia on the Treaty on Measures to Further Reduce and Limit Strategic Offensive Arms (START, START-3) is nonsense and rigging. This was stated by Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov.


When asked to comment on the statement of the US President's Special Representative for Arms Control Marshall Billingsley, Ryabkov said that the statement made by the American diplomat about the START agreements reached with Russia is nonsense and fooling around.

This is gimmick, delirium

- said the Deputy Minister, adding that the previously received US proposal to extend the START-3 Treaty, subject to a temporary mutual freeze of nuclear arsenals, is unacceptable for Russia.

At the same time, he explained that the United States will not receive any agreement from Russia "timed to coincide with their elections."

If the Americans need to report to their superiors something about which they allegedly agreed with the Russian Federation before their elections, then they will not receive it.

- emphasized Ryabkov.

Earlier, the American representative Marshall Billingsley said that the United States is ready "to conclude this agreement even tomorrow," "but Moscow will also have to show political will and do the same." Washington called the "temporary freeze of the nuclear arsenals of both countries" as the basis for extending the START Treaty.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 14 October 2020 09: 24 New
    14
    I have always said the US State Department is a bunch of crooks ... there is a crook sitting on a crook and driving a crook ... scammers.
    It's good that this employee of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs understands.
    1. Shiva83483
      Shiva83483 14 October 2020 09: 33 New
      11
      Yes, not only their "Hosdep" ... there the whole country is based on scammers and haps ...
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 October 2020 09: 43 New
        10
        Quote: Shiva83483
        the whole country is based on scammers and hapk ...

        All Western civilization is based on this.
        1. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 14 October 2020 09: 59 New
          +3
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          All Western civilization is based on this.

          or rather the whole civilization! and west and east and north and south! So it was, is and will be until the planet becomes a single organism
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 October 2020 10: 18 New
            +7
            But Western civilization is outright thieves and bloodthirsty murderers.
            Remember the era of colonialism, and how they treated the locals.
            1. Tiksi-3
              Tiksi-3 14 October 2020 10: 29 New
              0
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Remember the era of colonialism, and how they treated the locals.

              I know the history and remember and I do not justify anyone, unfortunately I am stating a fact ..... even though it is bitter
            2. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 14 October 2020 12: 00 New
              0
              The entire West is swindlers, deceivers, liars and impudent people. But the most arrogant Americans stand out even among the entire West for their super-arrogance. The same is necessary: ​​to declare that Russia AGREES to their bandit demands "under the Christmas tree" for the elections!
        2. Roman070280
          Roman070280 14 October 2020 10: 10 New
          -5
          All humanity is based on this ..
          Or someone thinks that in our Ministry of Foreign Affairs / Government, everyone is so honest and decent ..))
          How to discuss deputies from Edra, or laugh at Medved - so it is possible ..
          But here in the Foreign Ministry, we, of course, have people from another planet ..))
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 14 October 2020 09: 51 New
        0
        That's not true. There, the reputation is very much even appreciated and earned over the years. Another thing is that this does not seem to apply to their power elites.
        1. kit88
          kit88 14 October 2020 10: 00 New
          12
          Sure. Gentlemen always play by the rules.
          But if a gentleman starts to lose, he just ... changes the rules. laughing
        2. nnm
          nnm 14 October 2020 10: 06 New
          +5
          And what about the reputation after the East India Company, the US chemical industry with "Agent Orange" and the entire industry of Germany during the Second World War, suffered greatly? The cult of money talks about the importance of its reputation only for ordinary people, in order to bring more and more money to the corporation. But in reality, they will make money on blood, suffering, whatever, as long as it makes a profit.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 14 October 2020 11: 47 New
            -1
            And what about the reputation after the East India Company

            Where is there? In Holland or what?
            The cult of money talks about the importance of its reputation only for ordinary people, in order to bring more and more money to the corporation

            It may very well be. But only the townsfolk make up 99% of any society. Conversations about what
            there the whole country is based on scam and hapk

            complete lie.
            1. nnm
              nnm 14 October 2020 12: 13 New
              +2
              Everything you describe is part of Goodwill in Western standards. But in reality it is nothing more than a taxation of the company's profitability. In fact, there is no talk of a "Good" name and reputation. This is just the amount of money the company can make for you.
              The simplest example - sites, cellular operators - is banal and listen to you and no longer just model, but also moderate your behavior, trade your data, and how, how much did Apple suffer from this? or any other giant? And how many such modern examples ... from US investment banks with an incredibly cool reputation, which in 1 day brought down the system and as a result tens of thousands of families lost their homes, to Enron, Haliburton, food companies with their "Experiments" in Africa, etc. ...
              Yes, there is no reputation - there is one question - "how much money will you bring me?" And whether for their investments Boeing will build drones, which will then shoot the wedding - the average man does not care.
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 14 October 2020 14: 52 New
                -1
                The simplest example - sites, cellular operators - is banal and listen to you and no longer just model, but also moderate your behavior, trade your data

                Well, that's not true.
                trade your data and how, did Apple suffer from this?

                Apple? is not Facebook by chance? I am not entirely aware of the history, but there actually was in fact behind the hysteria that took place. And yes, he suffered, there were some proceedings already in Congress.

                Shl, I am a little bit from the inside of one "large site and operator", this is one of those big ones, and I know what "customer data" is and how carefully they handle them.
                1. nnm
                  nnm 14 October 2020 16: 27 New
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                  Quote: alexmach
                  Well, that's not true.

                  Are you seriously????? Ok, I won't give you the facts, but you won't dispute the fines to Facebook for the transfer of personal data?

                  And they are, of course, treated carefully - this is the "goose that lays the golden eggs" for these operators.

                  Do you want an example - enter with the search, for example, - "buy" a car .... and then while surfing other pages, pay attention to what kind of contextual advertising they give you? Moreover, even when you are no longer looking for a "car" .... or even better - when speaking on the phone, say the same words, and then open your browser and see what contextual advertising they will give you .... you will be surprised.

                  And this is not only my observation.
                  Or do you believe that this is not modeling and moderation yet?
                  1. alexmach
                    alexmach 14 October 2020 16: 29 New
                    -1
                    Are you seriously????? Ok, I won't give you the facts, but you won't dispute the fines to Facebook for the transfer of personal data?

                    Really.
                    And already Facebook and not Apple? I heard about fines, heard about a leak, I do not know the technical details of what exactly they did and why they were driven there. This could very well be a mistake and not a deliberate collection of data. Under modern user laws, you cannot collect data without your consent at all.
                    1. nnm
                      nnm 14 October 2020 16: 39 New
                      0
                      Yes for any of these companies. And nothing happens "by accident" in such matters. Everything that can bring money will be used to the maximum for this. Regardless of any laws. And the easiest way is to bypass them.
                      And about the experiment with contextual advertising - try it yourself. You will see everything in real life.
                      1. alexmach
                        alexmach 14 October 2020 16: 49 New
                        -1
                        Everything that is capable of generating money will be used to the maximum for this.

                        This is very much wrong. Once again, I say this seeing "this kitchen" from the inside.
                      2. nnm
                        nnm 14 October 2020 16: 51 New
                        0
                        Any "kitchen" can only be seen from a certain, let's say, floor.
                        Let's just check together: what are we looking for on the Internet, suggest an option?
                      3. alexmach
                        alexmach 14 October 2020 17: 07 New
                        -1
                        I'm aware of contextual advertising and cookies, don't tell me about it :).
                      4. nnm
                        nnm 14 October 2020 17: 13 New
                        0
                        Isn't this modeling my behavior yet?
                        And the fact that by phone (!!!) I agree with my friends about going to the sauna and right there, all the contextual advertising on the computer is the saunas, not moderation yet? Moreover, in the first lines it is the sauna where we usually go and which I ordered by phone.
                      5. alexmach
                        alexmach 14 October 2020 17: 17 New
                        -1
                        And that's how it definitely doesn't work. You probably just googled this sauna yesterday .. or you have already shown this advertisement a month before, and only then when you got into the sauna you "saw" it.
                      6. nnm
                        nnm 14 October 2020 17: 21 New
                        0
                        No. I don’t need to google her - her number has been crammed into my phone for years. And we only go there.
                        And this sauna was just the first to remember. And there were a lot of such cases. Try to notice them yourself - be surprised.
                        Now, for example, all the sites I have with advertisements for companies with construction expertise services, well, or the sale of apartments - in watts-up on a computer, a couple of days with friends discussed how to take a new apartment. No search engines - we have our own special company. only whatsapp and sending files to mail.ru - everything is now just jammed with this advertisement.
  • Vol4ara
    Vol4ara 14 October 2020 10: 27 New
    -2
    Quote: alexmach
    That's not true. There, the reputation is very much even appreciated and earned over the years. Another thing is that this does not seem to apply to their power elites.

    Carrying coke from Colombia by suitcases through the consulate does not seem to harm your reputation
    1. nnm
      nnm 14 October 2020 17: 54 New
      0
      Not that taking out a journalist from the embassy in parts, right?
      1. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 14 October 2020 21: 06 New
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        Quote: nnm
        Not that taking out a journalist from the embassy in parts, right?

        Absolutely not that, I agree.
        It is much more profitable to export coke
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 14 October 2020 09: 33 New
    +7
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    It's good that this employee of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs understands.

    Yes, the whole world understands this, only Russia can tell the truth in the face, and the West is modestly silent, cannot a vassal say a word against the owner. Sharpshooters, card players and scammers sit in the State Department. In nonstol distant times, cheaters were beaten in the face with candelabra.
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 14 October 2020 10: 11 New
      -8
      the whole world understands, only Russia can tell the truth in the eye

      "I stand alone in a white coat, beautiful" (c)
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 14 October 2020 10: 14 New
    -7
    The US State Department is a bunch of crooks


    The State Department needs to give out some positive news for Trump's election, to raise that rating .. Ryabkov is focusing on this exactly .. What is surprising in this ??
    And how does this differ from the actions of our "rogues" on the eve of their elections ??
    Or we first raise the retirement age, and then put forward their candidacy ..))
  • Cananecat
    Cananecat 14 October 2020 14: 11 New
    0
    The problem is that when characterizing the activities of foreign power structures, our diplomats use specific, sometimes slang expressions that are understandable only to residents of the post-Soviet space. Nebezya, Ryabkov ... the representatives of the Russian Federation speak a language that is understandable only to us and themselves, but not to the inhabitants of other countries. And it's depressing ...
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 October 2020 09: 43 New
    +4
    are delusional and fraudulent
    So they have been doing this for decades and often for their own benefit. Today, before the elections in the United States, it is generally useless to conduct any serious negotiations with the Americans. And after the elections, they themselves will abruptly lose the desire to negotiate anything with the Russians.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 14 October 2020 10: 01 New
    +3
    Yeah. "Promise anything, and we will" throw "them after the elections." Pin ... dosas, what to take from them? laughing
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 14 October 2020 13: 55 New
      -1
      Quote: Captive
      and we will "throw" them after the elections. "

      Why will we, and why only after? request laughing Kidalovo everyone and everything is their permanent state. If they declare that they are going to throw you, then you should know: the scam is already happening. yes
  • Operator
    Operator 14 October 2020 10: 06 New
    +3
    Damn, this is how the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the USSR Gromyko and the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU Brezhnev in the 1970s, as well as all other leaders of our country until 2000, should have talked to the United States, and not chew snot and kiss the gums of Americans.

    The problem is not in American fooling, but in the desire of the "partners" to go beyond the limits of the strategic arms limitation treaty and freeze our tactical nuclear weapons for this purpose.

    The logic of American negotiators is moronic to the point of disgrace: we will not remove our TNW stationed on the territory of foreign states until you remove your TNW stationed on the territory of your state - probably on the moon laughing

    PS In any case, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Americans have left ........ with us to the fullest and will now continue in the same spirit on an increasing basis.
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 14 October 2020 10: 20 New
      -8
      In any case, for the first time in the entire history of the United States, Americans have left ........ we have


      They say that half of Americans yesterday could not get out of bed and go to work .. crying in tears because of these evil Russians ..
      I now believe that everything is so ..))
      1. Operator
        Operator 14 October 2020 10: 21 New
        +5
        Which half do you belong to? laughing
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 14 October 2020 10: 41 New
          -8
          Unfortunately, or fortunately - I do not belong to the Americans ..))
          Otherwise, of course, I would be very upset that some user on the Internet for the first time in history humiliated me like this .. and plans to continue in the same spirit on an increasing basis ..))
  • iouris
    iouris 14 October 2020 14: 43 New
    +1
    The impression is that the Foreign Ministry is occupied by KVN specialists. Foreign Ministry statements must be firm, clear, non-interpretable when translated into the American language, and effective. No one in the Foreign Ministry should make statements on social networks - only the position of the head of state. Now all statements should have the character of responses to ultimatums presented. Got it.