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An hour-long truce. The war in Karabakh takes on a completely different character

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The war in Nagorno-Karabakh has entered its final phase. I would say that military actions did not show anything original. A predictable war with a predictable result in general and unpredictable due to the actions of one of the leaders of the opposing sides. Moreover, today one can already feel a certain aloofness of the leading world powers from this war. Duty calls for negotiations, duty deep regrets, duty words of support.


Why am I so sure that the war has entered its final phase? Yes, simply because the hostilities have acquired the character of a strategic confrontation with the use of heavy weapons. Rockets, large-caliber artillery, flamethrower systems and MLRS are precisely the indicator of the transition from tactical schemes to strategic plans and operations.

Changing the nature of war


I will not talk about which mountain, pass, village or valley one or another side captured. First, no one has precise data on specific battles along the entire front line. And I have no access to the means of objective control. And secondly, today the advances and retreats of the sides are no longer particularly important. The war was different.

The superiority of Azerbaijan, its preparation for war, the accumulation of resources and the development of strategic plans for the operation are obvious even to non-professionals. Armenia was preparing for the last war. This is evidenced by well-equipped engineering structures in the security zone. The strategy of the Armenian army was to prevent the enemy from entering the territory of Karabakh.

After the defense was broken, the Armenians found themselves in a difficult position. Remember the shots of the destruction of artillery, tanks, BMP and other objects by drones of the Azerbaijani army? Didn't you have a strange feeling of complete disregard of the commanders of the Armenian army for elementary things for any military, like masking an object?

It is clear when a car, tank, armored vehicle, self-propelled guns are on the march. Given the terrain, it is really difficult to mask such objects. Therefore, the defeat of tanks or infantry fighting vehicles looks logical. What about artillery positions that are not masked? What is the attitude to the tent cities of the Armenian army, which simply attract the eyes of the enemy?

According to the information that both sides are spreading about the losses of the opposing side, both armies have already lost a huge amount of equipment, weapons and personnel. It is clear that these data cannot be trusted. And the parties do not talk about their losses. But according to what is shown in the agitation of the parties, it can be concluded that the losses of Armenians are significantly higher than the losses of Azerbaijanis.

So, in order to understand what is happening now, it is necessary to remind the goals of this war for both sides. Azerbaijan wants to liberate its own lands, which Armenia has turned into the security zone of Artsakh. And, continuing the offensive in case of successful completion of the first task, liberate the entire territory of the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Region. At the same time, Baku is not going to cross the border of Armenia, so as not to provoke retaliatory measures from Russia.

Armenia is trying with all its might to preserve the Armenian Artsakh and those seven regions of Azerbaijan, which make up the security zone. Legally, Armenia is not right in this situation. But this does not stop anyone in Yerevan. Over the years that have passed since the end of the previous war, the Armenians have become accustomed to the idea that Karabakh, albeit unrecognized even by their state, is Armenian. And the occupied regions of Azerbaijan also belong to Artsakh.

What is written above are common truths that are repeated daily in different media. But one very important task for the Azerbaijani army follows from them. Locals! Yes, those who today consider this land theirs. Those who once conquered it in battles.

It was the fulfillment of this task that changed the nature of the war. Many have noticed the fact how methodically, but at the same time, artillery works out in the villages and towns of the NKR. One or two shots, destruction or damage to a building with minimal casualties among the population, and silence. The next day the situation repeats itself. At the same time, no progress of the Azerbaijani army is observed.

What for? When analyzing the balance of forces of the parties, it becomes clear that no heroism and staunchness of the fighters of the armies of Armenia and Artsakh will stop the Azerbaijani army if it starts an offensive. The infrastructure allows Baku to transfer units quickly enough. The enemy does not have such an opportunity. But the offensive begins only after certain events in the village.

And this event is the evacuation of most of the civilian population! Baku is deliberately delaying the offensive, ensuring the exit of the civilian population from the combat zone. Humanism? Hardly. From those frames and those reports that break through the information blockade, one can draw a conclusion about rather dirty methods of warfare. But we will know for sure about this only after the end of hostilities.

Everything seems to me to be much more complicated and simpler. Baku does not need those civilians who live there now. Firstly, it is the overwhelming majority of Armenians, who in any case will maintain ties with their compatriots, which means, quite possibly, will become a breeding ground for a possible partisan movement in the NGO.

Secondly, Armenians living in NKR today occupy lands and houses that once belonged to Azerbaijanis. It is clear that after the victory of Baku, those who were once expelled from their land will return and drive out the invaders. Therefore, there are no guarantees that this will not result in another massacre. Mutual hatred reached its climax in this war.

So, what is the character of the war in Karabakh today? This is a war not only and not so much for the territory of Karabakh as for the cleansing of these territories from the Armenians living there. This is a war for the settlement of the autonomous region with Azerbaijanis and the final solution of the NKR issue in this way.

Incomprehensible actions of Yerevan


Most of us are convinced that an external enemy always contributes to the consolidation of the nation, which ultimately leads the nation to victory. At the same time, we forget the second result of this consolidation. The nation either wins or dies! Alas, this fact cannot be denied. It all depends on the enemy the nation is currently fighting against.

Yerevan today is stubbornly pushing the Armenian state towards self-destruction. They understand that the war has been lost. As well as the fact that the continuation of this massacre will lead to senseless losses and complete destabilization of the country's economy. I'm not even talking about the deaths of many young people necessary for the country.

The option of ending the war through negotiations was quite acceptable to both sides. A truce, the transfer of the bodies of the dead and the exchange of prisoners, in parallel negotiations on the division of Karabakh. Yes, Yerevan would have to give not only seven regions of Azerbaijan, but some part of Karabakh, but receive in return peace and the rest of Artsakh. Moreover, Baku, as it seems to me, would even go to recognize this part of Armenia.

But what happened after the meeting of the foreign ministers in Moscow? An hour-long truce! .. And new, even more fierce battles. Battles that practically deprive Armenia of any chances of keeping at least part of Artsakh under its control. Yes, today you can argue about who broke the truce. But, as it seems to me, no one needs it anymore. Both sides are convinced that the enemy did it. And it will be almost impossible to convince them.

I think that if there is political will on both sides, one can find the culprit for the breakdown of the agreement with the help of objective means of control, and Russia has enough such means in this region. In this case, both the USA and China could share the data of their satellites.

I did not want to raise the topic of relations between modern Armenia and Russia during the war. But what the Prime Minister of Armenia is doing today causes indignation to such an extent that it is simply impossible to keep silent about it. In an effort to change the country's political course, the government is going to outright kill its citizens in this war. Instead of making every effort to end the bloodshed.

Conclusion. To be continued


For several days I heard talk about downed attack aircraft, about attacks by attack aircraft under the cover of Turkish F-16s. The experts argued, quoted from various sources. The feeling was that the two states were participating in different wars. Armenians shoot down a plane, planes are being used on them, and Azerbaijanis say that they have planes in hangars.

Is it difficult to ask military pilots? Asking if there are idiots among aviation commanders of Azerbaijan, who in such a terrain and with such saturation of air defense would order their pilots to carry out raids? Drones do a great job with this.

What's next? Not in the sense of information stuffing, but in general on the war between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Further, Baku will bring the situation to its logical end. Will squeeze out civilians from NGOs. Will grind the army of Artsakh and Armenia with long-range artillery and drones. And as the civilian population will leave for Armenia, liberate the territory, the Azerbaijani army will occupy the villages and cities of Karabakh.

Armenia's resources will melt before our eyes. The country will rapidly become poorer and eventually turn into a kind of Ukraine. There are many ambitions in the absence of opportunities to realize them. Continuing the course of Europeanizing the country and rejecting an alliance with Russia is precisely this path.

And again Russia will be in charge of the situation. Or won't it? ..
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  1. Insurgent
    Insurgent 14 October 2020 12: 05 New
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    And again Russia will be in charge of the situation. Or won't it? ..


    I'm afraid it won't ...

    Russia is so confused in its "a lot of vector politics", expressed in incomprehensible tricks with Turkey in Syrian Idlib, to the detriment of the territorial integrity of the SAR, now there is a" significant silence "about the actions of Turkey and Azerbaijan with the transfer of militants to the borders of the Russian Federation.
    And Armenia, with its "Soros" as a member of the CSTO is important, but at the same time remains without tangible support ...
    1. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 14 October 2020 13: 05 New
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      I even really hope that it won't.
    2. MKPU-115
      MKPU-115 14 October 2020 13: 53 New
      -2
      In Armenia, the US State Department is now de facto in command, and in any case they still benefit.
      Quote: Insurgent
      "meaningful silence"

      Yes, everything is correct, they hold a pause in the Kremlin, then they will again sit down at the negotiating table, and so far they have not yet fought.
    3. Doctor
      Doctor 14 October 2020 23: 17 New
      +7
      I'm afraid it won't ...

      Probably already settling.

      At the moment we have a pro-American Armenia.

      To turn the tide, remove Pashinyan and install a pro-Russian president, it was decided to give carte blanche to Aliyev for the annexation of Karabakh, because his loss will inevitably cause a severe drop in Pashinyan's rating.

      Everything was also agreed with Erdogan, we have an order of magnitude more interests in Turkey than in Armenia.

      From the point of view of world legislation, Azerbaijanis are in their own right.
      Militarily, they are better prepared.
      Even the Jews are on the side of Azerbaijan, it says a lot. lol

      Globally, Russia doesn't care about its Karabakh, so that everything is going according to plan.
    4. max702
      max702 15 October 2020 11: 52 New
      +8
      Quote: Insurgent
      I'm afraid it won't ...

      I sincerely hope that it won't! For once, Russia has finally begun to act according to the precepts and patterns of the old woman of England .. To put the limitrophe in its place with hands and at the expense of another limitrophe! Aerobatics! Armenia itself is to blame for everything, sitting on two chairs at the same time spitting in the hand that feeds it and shitting at the door of those who defend it .. All this Nazism performed by the Armenian diaspora in Russia received a worthy response. How many times has Russia saved these underprivileged peoples and what did it receive in return? Here we are. now everything will be different, namely, "There are no permanent allies and enemies, but there are permanent interests of the great Russia" .. They wanted Russia to become "civilized" and so they got it .. And how many interesting things for such cunning invented people are yet to come .. Others need the same to think hard ..
  2. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 14 October 2020 12: 08 New
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    I am embarrassed to ask - in what specific place did the Azerbaijani army break through the defenses of the NKAO, entered the operational space and "rushed" to the vital centers of the NKAO? Please voice the entire list))))
    1. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 14 October 2020 12: 10 New
      +7
      PS Judging by where the lost Azerbaijani UAV fell on the territory of Iran, the Persians conclude that the Baku fairy tales are very far from reality.
    2. Vsepomni
      Vsepomni 14 October 2020 18: 22 New
      +2
      Do not be shy. Baku liberated most of the Fizuli and Jabrayil regions. An offensive was launched in the Khojavend region
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 14 October 2020 18: 36 New
        +2
        Excuse me, Fizuli whose?
        Sincerely
        1. Vsepomni
          Vsepomni 14 October 2020 18: 57 New
          -2
          There is a strong fortification. Until ours take it in order to minimize casualties
          1. nobody75
            nobody75 14 October 2020 19: 27 New
            +3
            My dear friend!
            Don't you think that moving from Gadrut to Fizuli you are advancing .... mmm ... towards Azerbaijan?
            Sincerely
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 14 October 2020 19: 41 New
        +3
        Proofs in the studio)))) what confirms this, except for victorious reports?
    3. Vicontas
      Vicontas 14 October 2020 21: 18 New
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      For the third time, Russia will not rock the boat for Armenia, although Lavrov is an ethnic Armenian from Georgia! The Kremlin's position is as simple and cynical as a mooing - at first, the loyal Ars will remind Pashinyan and his fellows for the loss of territories and will bring to power those with whom the Kremlin was more comfortable. They will discuss the future of Armenia and Karabakh with them. On the external fronts, both republics are not expected to succeed. Everyone sympathizes with the Armenians, but helps them mainly morally. Because of its friendship with the "Turkish Sultan", Azerbaijan has the same reputation as a trample on the high road. But thanks to the resources and support of the Turkish Chingiz Khaimah It is easier for Baku oil workers and conquerors of bazaars. So about a clever thing - if anyone read the story in childhood, he should know that all that land was conquered by Russia from Persia back in the 19th century. Then the writer Gribedov died, the author of "Woe from Wit" who was a diplomat by job! This is a hairpin for those victims of the exam who believe that the Russians have nothing to do there! For some reason, the United States does not disdain the islands of Micronesia, which are thousands of kilometers away from them and have set up their possessions there plus a nuclear burial ground! Not to mention other territories. The Small-Brits did not hesitate to start a war for the Falkland Islands, even if they lost the Sheffield destroyer with nuclear weapons there. And the Falklands are from London, oh, how farther than Karabakh is from Moscow! Conclusion - if you want to be better, do it yourself! That is, this territory should belong to Russia!
      1. Roman070280
        Roman070280 15 October 2020 10: 15 New
        +4
        At first, the loyal Ars will punish Pashinyan and his fellows for the loss of territories and will bring those with whom the Kremlin was more convenient to power. The future of Armenia and Karabakh will be discussed with them.


        When Azerbaijan not only officially owns NK, but actually settles its people there, there will be no point in discussing anything .. Armenia will not return anything back under any pretext ..
  3. Bashkirkhan
    Bashkirkhan 14 October 2020 12: 08 New
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    Let Armenia and Azerbaijan sort it out on their own. Armenians did not support Russia with Crimea. They squeezed out from Armenia not only Russian business, but also the business of Russian Armenians. Leading pro-Russian politician Robert Kocheryan was imprisoned. Armenian media and social networks pour mud on Russia every hour. The Armenians are hiding on their territory and are not handing over anti-Russian leaders to Russia. Well, what for is this, if one may say so, Russia's "ally" surrendered (the only allies in this region are sitting at the Russian base in Gyumri)? They did not help us in any way and do not want to help, why should Russia fit in for them, and perhaps with the lives of its soldiers? What did Armenia give Russia to do this?
    As for the war in Karabakh, in 30 years, the Armenians could build concrete pillboxes, like on the Mannerheim line, and underground shelters for equipment, and judging by the footage from their places on the front line, there are bedbugs made of cinder blocks with a thin layer of earth, tires from tire fitting and holes dug in the ground for vehicles instead of cover. No cover from the threat from above, not even a primitive camouflage - all the equipment is in plain sight and the drones crack them like nuts for breakfast. Moreover, the air defense consists of the decommissioned OSA-AKM purchased in Jordan by Pashinyan.
    1. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 14 October 2020 12: 11 New
      +2
      I live very far from there. I have a purely academic interest
    2. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 14 October 2020 13: 12 New
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      Exactly. When I hear that Russia "should", I keep trying to remember what and when we owed the Armenians. I only remember that we preserved their statehood, invested in development, de facto supplied weapons free of charge. And what in return? Is Russia a scam?
    3. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 14 October 2020 13: 13 New
      +5
      Quote: Bashkirkhan
      Let Armenia and Azerbaijan sort it out on their own. Armenians did not support Russia with Crimea. They squeezed out from Armenia not only Russian business, but also the business of Russian Armenians. Leading pro-Russian politician Robert Kocheryan was imprisoned. Armenian media and social networks pour mud on Russia every hour. The Armenians are hiding on their territory and are not handing over anti-Russian leaders to Russia. Well, what for is this, if one may say so, Russia's "ally" surrendered (the only allies in this region are sitting at the Russian base in Gyumri)? They did not help us in any way and do not want to help, why should Russia fit in for them, and perhaps with the lives of its soldiers? What did Armenia give Russia to do this?


      I completely agree with this point of view.
    4. icant007
      icant007 14 October 2020 14: 09 New
      +2
      the only allies in the region are sitting at the Russian base in Gyumri


      Also, Russian border guards are guarding the Armenian-Turkish border.
      Half of the recruits there seem to be local, but nevertheless.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 14 October 2020 14: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: icant007
        Also, Russian border guards are guarding the Armenian-Turkish border.
        Half of the recruits there seem to be local, but nevertheless.


        Nevertheless, they represent the Russian Federation as a force in the Transcaucasus ...
    5. Kronos
      Kronos 14 October 2020 14: 17 New
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      Roberta Kocheryan's thief, therefore, sit, and what role he does not play there.
    6. nobody75
      nobody75 14 October 2020 21: 50 New
      +4
      Completely in agreement with you! We don't need to go there ... There is one problem ... The Trans-Adriatic gas pipeline has been completed. And Azerbaijani gas will not be enough to recoup it. It is necessary to pull the siphon from Turkmenistan across the Caspian. Therefore, NATO wants to build a base in Azerbaijan to protect the gas pipeline. Turkish base. Iran is very much against it, because it is afraid that the US will use this base to organize an attack on it. And most of the Turkmen gas is contracted by China. If you and I do not defend the agreement on the division of the Caspian, then it will be covered with a copper basin, and Lukoil has opened a new oil province in our part of the Caspian.
      Sincerely
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 14 October 2020 12: 14 New
    +7
    The author honestly admits that he does not have accurate information, because he is not allowed to access the sources, but then makes a sharp turn - "they say, this is not the main thing ..."
    So the main thing is what he writes.
    It's good that at least this time I did without the crown:
    "People often ask me" .....
  5. comradChe
    comradChe 14 October 2020 12: 19 New
    -1
    We will reap what we have sown.
  6. Stock
    Stock 14 October 2020 12: 20 New
    +1
    I just watched the new video of Maksim Shevchenko about the war in Karabakh on YouTube, 16 minutes of the video, take the time to watch your friends, the essence and the main puppeteers of all this are very well revealed. Also, at the end of the video, he spoke about Naryshkin's statement, to which his Armenian colleagues are appealing here, about the terrorists involved in the conflict zone. Listen carefully and hear what he really said
    1. Stock
      Stock 14 October 2020 12: 20 New
      +1
      Forgot link https://youtu.be/PqmkqF78jlc
    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 14 October 2020 13: 15 New
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      It is not necessary to advise Shevchenko. A person who changed his beliefs from situation to situation and, to put it mildly, carried a blizzard in the past, is not worthy of attention.
  7. Indifferent
    Indifferent 14 October 2020 12: 21 New
    -1
    I would advise you to be more objective! Is it possible that everything that the opposing sides dumped on YouTube be considered the ultimate truth? I am more than sure that almost all the defeat of technology in caponiers is educational films of the times of "Tsar Pea", and not real military actions. Still, the Armenian officers have good training and experience in fighting and I would not consider them idiots who cannot even organize camouflage. These films show that these are all fakes.
    1. Homeland
      Homeland 14 October 2020 13: 07 New
      -1
      And in what military operations did the Armenian officers gain experience?
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 14 October 2020 13: 17 New
        +2
        I can see that the mock-ups are pretty crude GRADOV and OS on rollers I saw ... Not to mention what the decommissioned ones could bring ...
      2. Buka001
        Buka001 15 October 2020 13: 15 New
        -2
        The massacre of civilians in Khojaly !!!
  8. nobody75
    nobody75 14 October 2020 12: 23 New
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    Dear Author, Your analysis, to my deep regret, is not based on facts. Therefore, your conclusions, to put it mildly, are controversial ...
    First, the strategic task of Azerbaijan to limit the combat zone of the NKR proper failed miserably. The Azerbaijani army had to hunt pu otrk on the territory of Armenia.
    https://rusvesna.su/news/1602658488
    Armenia has already found itself drawn into the conflict.
    Secondly, I'm tired of writing about it, find Talysh, Madangiz, Martakert and Tartar on the map. A quick glance at the map is enough to understand that Talysh is a "donut hole". There is no way for Azerbaijan to keep it.
    Thirdly, all the commentators were impressed by the breakthrough of Azerbaijanis in the south ... How then can one explain the reversal of the direction of the strike on the command “round” - to Hadrut and Fizuli, if not by throwing in a cauldron?
    From the above it follows that the planned blitzkrieg failed, and the General Staff of Azerbaijan was forced to improvise.
    As for the war of the "XXI century" ... Sorry, but war is not a Hollywood movie. If a tank would post every shot on its instogram, it is not yet known who would have won this Eurovision song contest by likes.
    Sincerely
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 14 October 2020 13: 19 New
      +4
      Quote: nobody75
      From the above it follows that the planned blitzkrieg failed, and the General Staff of Azerbaijan was forced to improvise.


      I agree with your conclusions. I wrote the same thing three days ago.
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 14 October 2020 14: 39 New
        +2
        Thank you for your support!
        Sincerely
    2. icant007
      icant007 14 October 2020 14: 16 New
      0
      Quote: nobody75
      Thirdly, all the commentators were impressed by the breakthrough of Azerbaijanis in the south ... How then can one explain the reversal of the direction of the strike on the command “round” - to Hadrut and Fizuli, if not by throwing in a cauldron?


      Business as usual in war. They are looking for a weak spot in the enemy's defense.
      It didn't work in one place, they are looking in another.
      This is not an indicator of weakness, but of professionalism.
      Although there may be political reasons, and strategic.
      Hadrut, unlike Jebrail, is still the regional center of Karabakh.

      I just hypothetically admit that there may be a boiler.
      But then all Rostov Armenians would travel around the city with the flags of Armenia)
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 14 October 2020 14: 43 New
        +1
        Sorry, I posted this map in other topics

        Where did you see professionalism on it?
        Sincerely
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 14 October 2020 14: 46 New
          +2
          What can be done from the southern bridgehead? Hit Berdzor? Despite the fact that the heights on the flanks are controlled by the Armenians, it is fraught ...
          Sincerely
        2. icant007
          icant007 14 October 2020 15: 03 New
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          And what can be understood from it at all?

          Is there an object of attack or a direction to continue the offensive?
          I did not assess whether Baku took the right direction.
          I'm talking about war as in war.

          You see some kind of cauldron in the throwing.
          Well, for God's sake.
          1. nobody75
            nobody75 14 October 2020 15: 11 New
            +2
            I agree that the map is not a General Staff map, but it shows Hadrut and Fizuli hanging over the communications of the southern group. Acting from Fizuli, the Armenian DRGs will begin to misbehave on the thin supply line. As they did once before the truce. Otherwise, Azerbaijan would not agree to any negotiations.
            Sincerely
            1. icant007
              icant007 14 October 2020 17: 48 New
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              Quote: nobody75
              Acting from Fizuli, the Armenian DRGs will begin to misbehave on the thin supply line.


              Well, as they say, wait and see.
              It is quite possible to operate on communications with small forces.
              I am not sure to do something more serious.
              1. nobody75
                nobody75 14 October 2020 18: 26 New
                +1
                The mountainous terrain allows solving problems with small forces ...
                Sincerely
      2. 1Alexey
        1Alexey 14 October 2020 19: 46 New
        +4
        Quote: icant007
        Business as usual in war. They are looking for a weak spot in the enemy's defense.

        It means that they have not yet found it, but the article says that they have already broken through the defense!

        So they broke through the defense, or are they just looking for a weak spot ?!
    3. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 14 October 2020 14: 41 New
      -1
      Strategist, however)) but didn’t think that the Armenians are like a team without the ball ... they run back and forth, they don’t have the initiative and they don’t have a tempo ... do you think we’ll trample in full height in a position made of concrete?))
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 14 October 2020 15: 04 New
        +4
        Please mark on the map with arrows - where you will "trample".
        And in a day - another we'll see what came of it ...
        Sincerely
        1. icant007
          icant007 14 October 2020 18: 02 New
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          Please mark on the map with arrows - where you will "trample".


          Will you believe in arrows? )))

          What if misinformation) military cunning)
          1. nobody75
            nobody75 14 October 2020 18: 24 New
            +2
            I'm sorry, I'm not quite stupid ... I'll figure it out somehow ... And about the disinformation ... But who needs us here! Do you think any of the serious uncles reads us? Therefore, we can do anything ... without org conclusions.
            Sincerely
            1. icant007
              icant007 14 October 2020 19: 00 New
              -1
              Well, after all, most are here in anticipation of some kind of blitzkrieg)

              And the absence thereof gives them a reason to reproach the Azerbaijani military for the lack of professionalism.
              1. nobody75
                nobody75 14 October 2020 19: 25 New
                +2
                I'm talking about looking at the map and, sorry, I don't see much professionalism.
                A foothold in the north - they have already tried to develop success there, and this led to the "Muragdag catastrophe".
                A foothold in the south ... I remember the words of Omar Hayam: "Tell me, my friend, what's next?"
                Sincerely
                1. icant007
                  icant007 14 October 2020 20: 07 New
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                  Quote: nobody75
                  A foothold in the north - they have already tried to develop success there, and this led to the "Muragdag catastrophe".
                  A foothold in the south ... I remember the words of Omar Hayam: "Tell me, my friend, what's next?"


                  Well, we are not watching football on TV, where the goals and rules of the game are clear.

                  The liberation of the Jebrail region is already a great victory.

                  You have in your head some kind of mental tracing paper from breakthroughs, throws, blows, red arrows.

                  You do not know the plan of the military command of Azerbaijan. And I don’t know.

                  Maybe they wanted to liberate 7 districts in three days, or maybe they reasoned "we will not set goals, as they trample on them)".

                  Look at the dynamics of hostilities in Syria, everything is very slow, while there is not such a mountainous terrain as in Karabakh.
                  1. nobody75
                    nobody75 14 October 2020 21: 35 New
                    +1
                    How are you going to supply the garrison in Jabrayil if you are cut off from the border?

                    Sincerely
                2. Albay
                  Albay 15 October 2020 00: 14 New
                  -2
                  Nobody 75. I have already pointed out to you that, alas, you do not understand maps from a military point of view. Therefore, there is no need to point out a map from a high point of view, especially the wrong one for today.
                  Best regards
                  1. nobody75
                    nobody75 15 October 2020 07: 39 New
                    +3
                    Please indicate the correct one, for today - you understand ... I've been waiting for this very card from you for the second week.
                    Sincerely
                    1. Oquzyurd
                      Oquzyurd 15 October 2020 13: 25 New
                      0
                      It is close to the topic, but also not all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkTrIR433gI
    4. Albay
      Albay 15 October 2020 00: 00 New
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      Dear nobody75, with all due respect to you, but you are writing nonsense.
      Please do not be offended, you just do not have enough knowledge. Alas, not being a professional soldier and not being able to read a map, not knowing the peculiarities of the territory where the hostilities are taking place, you make erroneous and high-flown conclusions. The so-called blitzkrieg.What in Chechnya, Iraq, In Syria, the armies much stronger did not do the blitzkrieg, and here you have sofa strategists who do not have military education, constant arguments were made whether the blitzkrieg was successful or not. You wrote in one of your comments about the fact that in Azerbaijan there are no Guderians and now write about some kind of cauldron in which the Azerbaijani army is mosque because of the fact that it went to Hadrut))) You do not have a detailed map, but you argue about what was successful and what was not. To understand the actions of the army, you need to know the strategic plan and what features Hadrut is the most important defense center since the times of sovereignty in the southern direction. There was a fortified area of ​​border guards, from the heights of Hadrut you can see not only The Jabrayil region but also far and the north of Iran. From these heights Fizuli is also completely controlled. In the first war, Azerbaijani forces were never able to approach Hadrut. In this war, no settlements are important, how many heights and roads. Until Hadrut was taken, was the danger of the Armenian army breaking through towards Horadiz in order to encircle parts of the first corps. Continuing the offensive towards Gubadli and Zangelan, as you, being a genius commander, suggested, was very risky and rather suicidal, since communications would stretch out and the flanks would be constantly under the threat of strikes. In principle, the Armenians They tried to carry out this kind of operation, but the column advancing to Goradiz for encirclement was met and defeated. The capture of Hadrut and the heights provided a flank and removed the danger over Jabrayil. In addition, the position of the Armenian army in Fizuli made the position of the Armenian army almost hopeless and therefore they had already left most of their positions and fled. the heights around Hadrut are strategically important.
      I advise you to buy a detailed map of the area where the war is taking place and mark the occupied positions of the Azerbaijani army on the map with red flags. To understand why the Azerbaijanis Fizuli and Mardakert did not attack the LLB, you need to know what fortifications and tunnels have been built there in 30 years. As for the north, the heights over Ialysh and the southern slopes of Madagiz made it possible to reach Agdera from the Kalbajar side, the Kalbajer-Agdere road was blocked. The Agderi mountain range has one road left to Martuni and this road can be blocked by the advancing units from Hadrut. Then the Agdam fortified area will be doomed.
      The Azerbaijani army is very professional and competent in this case. It does not matter at this stage how many forced settlements are liberated, the heights and roads are important. By the way, the author noted a lot, but there are also bloopers, mainly from not having enough information, and especially the fact that Azerbaijan would agree to transfer Karabakh to Armenia - this is a red line, it would be impossible.
      Best regards
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 15 October 2020 13: 11 New
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        My Dear, Highly Professional Friend! Without waiting for the card, as a "couch strategist" I will try to comprehend your message. The points.
        What in Chechnya, Iraq, Syria, armies much stronger did not blitzkrieg

        In Chechnya, Iraq, Syria, the armies were involved in police operations. I hope you understand the difference between a war and a police operation? In Iraq, I mean the second campaign. After Saddam was long and tediously pickled with sanctions, his generals were bought in bulk and the local population, especially the Kurds, were seduced.
        As far as the First Gulf War is concerned, Desert Storm is a perfectly valid hammer and anvil blitzkrieg. With a deep raid of armored divisions and the landing of tactical troops.
        Next, the next point
        Hadrut has been the most important defense center since the times of sovereignty in the southern direction. There was a fortified area of ​​border guards, from the heights of Gadrut you can see not only the entire Jabrail region but also far and northern Iran.

        Have you already got it?
        When did the border guards have fortified areas? Moreover, those that the army corps is able to shackle for a week? If you knew about this in the Politburo, they would have approved the plan of Aliyev the Elder. I remember he offered Iran to fight ... With the aim of reuniting the divided Azerbaijani people ... I did not know that you have "brothers" in Turkey ...
        Until Hadrut was taken, there was a danger of a breakthrough by the Armenian army towards Horadiz in order to encircle parts of the first corps. danger of blows.

        I confess I am very ashamed ... I have to reveal to you a terrible secret. All the NKR defense forces at the beginning of the next series of the Karabakh Franchise consisted of an incomplete motorized rifle division! What forces would they have struck at Horadiz? All they can do is cut your communications and slowly cook the pot ... which is what they do. And I have a map with "flags", thanks for the advice.
        Sincerely
        1. Albay
          Albay 16 October 2020 00: 25 New
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          Nobody 75
          1.In Soviet times, there were fortified areas of border guards.
          2. There were 4 divisions in the NKR army and they are part of the Armenian army and it is really a shame not to know this.
          4. Only in the Jabrayil region, the 18th division was concentrated on the side.
          Well, it's not enough to write nonsense of the NKR army no, it's part of the Armenian army. 80 percent of the NKR army consists of 4 divisions, conscripts from Armenia. Not knowing all this and drawing conclusions is really a shame
          On October 7-8, the forces of a separate corps made an attempt to cut off and encircle the Azerbaijani forces. In the area of ​​the village of Goradiz, the Armenian units were defeated, as well as the 18th division at Dzhabrail.
          As for the map, I can’t transfer my card to you through the computer and I can’t put it here, but if you have a detailed map, then read the reports and see what territories Azerbaijan has already stopped.
          Best regards
          1. nobody75
            nobody75 16 October 2020 08: 01 New
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            My dear friend, please read what a fortified area is.
            Fortified area, fortified area, SD - an area of ​​terrain equipped in engineering terms for defense, a defense line in the form of resistance nodes of long-term fortified positions that are in interaction and form a common group (tens of kilometers of engineering structures, various obstacles, controlled and uncontrolled minefields)
            Yes, all of Karabakh can hardly be called a fortified region! Please read the Soviet Military Encyclopedia, it will be useful, take pity on the soldiers and their mothers.
            There were 4 divisions in the NKR army and they are part of the Armenian army and it is really a shame not to know this.
            This was in 1994 ... And in 2020, one division was deployed there along the line of contact. Otherwise, you would be afraid to attack.
            Only in Jabrayil region, the 18th division was concentrated on the side.
            Excuse me, can you confirm this with the testimony of the prisoners? Sorry, I forgot, you put them in the Armenian flag and against the wall ...
            On October 7-8, the forces of a separate corps made an attempt to cut off and encircle the Azerbaijani forces. In the area of ​​the village of Goradiz, the Armenian units were defeated, as well as the 18th division at Dzhabrail.

            Above you gave the numbers of divisions, but here from the air a whole corps materialized ... In what composition? Division numbers? Do the prisoners confirm? Sorry, I forgot ... you immediately ... that.
            With respect.
    5. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 20 October 2020 12: 02 New
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      It was not possible to limit the zone of the DB, because the Azerbaijani UAVs are diving over Armenia as if at home. Outstanding Armenian Success. The Azerbaijanis took Talysh, which "there is no way to keep it." Even hold back. And they took him. Here the Armenians won in the square. The reversal of the direction of the strike can be explained by the fact that the Azerbaijanis are trying to lock themselves in the cauldron of Armenians) And yes, war is not a movie, here it is not very effective to play with words and close-ups.
      Armenia is a weak economy, incomparable with an offended neighbor. A positional war will destroy it in a matter of months, as the author writes. Of course, Azerbaijan would not dare to attack a country friendly to Russia. No way, Aliyev is clever. But Armenia spat and shit in the outstretched hand of friendship, for which it is naturally paying off now. This is an indisputable fact.
      Did you want freedom? So eat it, wolves!
  9. Vadim_888
    Vadim_888 14 October 2020 12: 24 New
    +2
    The author somehow very one-sidedly highlighted the situation, the feeling that he used only the Arzeybadzhan sources, not a word about the militants from Syria, not a word about the losses of the Arzebaydzhan equipment, not a word about the Georgian transit of ammunition from Turkey and Israel, how so?
    1. Buka001
      Buka001 15 October 2020 13: 48 New
      -2
      And why should the author of a fairy tale tell how some, if you want fairy tales, go read the Armenian press.
    2. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 20 October 2020 12: 06 New
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      Azerbaijan has established efficient transit from its allies and trading partners. What is the problem? Is it that Armenia has neither one nor the other? And who is to blame for this?
  10. Avior
    Avior 14 October 2020 12: 25 New
    +5
    ... Yes, Yerevan would have to give not only seven regions of Azerbaijan, but some part of Karabakh, but receive in return peace and the rest of Artsakh. Moreover, Baku, it seems to me, would even go to recognize this part of Armenia.

    When people seem to have a classic recommendation.
    Why would Azerbaijan recognize the loss of a part of its territory?
    Azerbaijan will continue to put pressure on the Armenians, even if this company ends, it will not be the last.
    Someone will move out, someone will stay to live
    But Azerbaijan did not recognize Karabakh as Armenian even in more unfortunate years for it.
  11. prior
    prior 14 October 2020 12: 28 New
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    "But what happened after the meeting of the foreign ministers in Moscow?"

    And what happened was that it became obvious to everyone - there is NO influence of Moscow on Yerevan and Baku.
    Where the USSR had authority, Russia has an empty place ...
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 20 October 2020 12: 11 New
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      Quote: prior
      "But what happened after the meeting of the foreign ministers in Moscow?"

      And what happened was that it became obvious to everyone - there is NO influence of Moscow on Yerevan and Baku.
      Where the USSR had authority, Russia has an empty place ...

      There is no friendship and cooperation, it's true. But there is an influence, and a huge one. In proportion to the army, GDP and territory, as well as geostrategic position. But Moscow only provided a platform for its blood-thirsty neighbors. So as not to fight right at the negotiating table.
      The time for peace has not yet come, and attempts to conclude it are useless. Only a massive invasion of the USSR Armed Forces would help, and not Brezhnev's, but Stalin's ones, that is, with huge losses on both opposing sides. So that the thirst for blood in them would be quiet. And then the NKVD should begin the systematic shooting of war criminals, various field commanders and preachers. Then the world could be established right now.
      There are no other ways yet.
  12. Strannik_GO
    Strannik_GO 14 October 2020 12: 29 New
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    Well, just a problem, from the word "absolutely", has no solution. War wakes up until one of the belligerent parties is completely exhausted, and one of the parties is completely defeated and degraded.
    Here, and now I will express a seditious proposal - only the merger of Armenia and Azerbaijan into a single state can avoid large losses, both in people and in material resources. No, of course, mutual hostility and clashes on domestic grounds will not go anywhere, but this will remove the territorial issue, remove the military component, transfer the conflict to an internal state, and both peoples will receive additional "buns" from the merger. Something like that....
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 14 October 2020 13: 21 New
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      They merged twice and the Georgians took part in the merging. They fled in both cases. And after the collapse of the USSR, they fled even more. The Georgians "love" Ossetians and Abkhazians very much, they reciprocate. They tolerate Azerbaijanis, but they are better than Armenians. Azerbaijanis, tolerate Georgians and "love" Armenians very much. The Armenians seem to "love" both those and others very much. Although, if we discard mutual "love" and merge for the third time, it would be pretty good, for all the peoples of Transcaucasia, in the economic plan. But ... the trouble is that that when merging, Azerbaijan will become a donor for Georgia and Armenia. Perhaps this will suit the elite of the former and the latter, but not the elite of Azerbaijan. Condo nationalism in Transcaucasia prevents the creation of such a federation.
  13. maktub
    maktub 14 October 2020 12: 31 New
    -1
    I agree with the author, Azerbaijan chose the tactic of "squeezing out" the unloyal local population with the subsequent settlement of the territories
    Surely, the attraction of Syrian mercenaries is one of these elements in order to "intimidate" the wavering
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 14 October 2020 15: 00 New
      +3
      Sorry, but I can't agree with you ... "Fat" and "sweet" have not been there since the 90s. The "disloyal population" is an armed people, well prepared, taking into account the "folk crafts" that flourished there. Who will squeeze it out? Syrian "children of the earth" with hands calloused from the plow? Yes, they rebelled against Assad from the lack of water and, accordingly, food ... They also found the dogs of war - Syrian poodles ...
      Sincerely
      1. maktub
        maktub 14 October 2020 15: 36 New
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        Dear Nobody75, have you noticed that in all videos "from there" there is no "local population", abandoned houses, objects?
        The "Syrians" were sent there to stir up fear of a possible "genocide", including on a religious basis; Baku has no urgent need for additional troops.
        There is also a psychological war
        "Syrians" and "well-trained locals" are nothing more than cliches, but "tenacious"
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 14 October 2020 15: 56 New
          +3
          Sorry, we saw different videos ... There is a local population in Stepanakert.
          Sincerely
          1. maktub
            maktub 14 October 2020 16: 05 New
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            In the "liberated" or "occupied" territories, whatever you want to call it, I haven't seen a single local person in the video
            The article was about squeezing out the Armenians, with which I agreed.
        2. nobody75
          nobody75 14 October 2020 16: 05 New
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          You will forgive me magnanimously, but now all the sellers of nesting dolls on the Old Arbat from your Karabakh Adventures are having a lot of fun. "We would have seized everything we needed a long time ago, having cut the air defense and carried out the landing of helicopter assault forces with air and artillery spotters behind enemy lines. The airborne assault would have straddled the heights, and the aviation and artillery would have shattered the pillboxes. And armored cars would have come to support them."
          Sincerely
          1. maktub
            maktub 14 October 2020 16: 08 New
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            Regards, but your passage is by, I am absolutely neutral.
            Expressed my point of view
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 14 October 2020 16: 15 New
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              Sorry, but you can't be so selfish !. They ask a question, grinning, "And why do we need an aircraft modeling circle in the army? Let sailors and flyers fiddle around. They have nothing to do anyway."
              And how can I stir them up without your Success?
              Sincerely
              1. maktub
                maktub 14 October 2020 16: 23 New
                -1
                Once again, I am from Ukraine, I will deeply share who will win, let it bother the Russian Federation, Azerbaijan, Armenia and Turkey
                Advise "them" to go home to their historical homeland
                Best regards
  14. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 14 October 2020 12: 33 New
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    Yerevan's actions are very understandable. This is the involvement of Russia in an armed conflict.
    1. bar
      bar 14 October 2020 14: 01 New
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      Yerevan's actions are very understandable. This is the involvement of Russia in an armed conflict.

      And the Armenians are not alone in this desire. Turkish "friend" Erdogan wants the same. And for this very reason, we need to touch this pile of shit even with tweezers.
  15. parusnik
    parusnik 14 October 2020 12: 47 New
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    And the worst thing in this war, all means are good, on both sides, which they use or try to take advantage of, and this conflict is reminiscent of Rwanda.
  16. Alien From
    Alien From 14 October 2020 12: 53 New
    +1
    Let them figure it out. Our business is a side. Both those and others are far from our friends.
  17. prior
    prior 14 October 2020 13: 03 New
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    The war in Karabakh can be ended very quickly, it is enough to make a decision to deport all citizens of Armenia and Azerbaijan from Russia.
    Working and trading here, they replenish the budgets of their countries, in fact, we earn money to fight the war. This must end.
  18. borys
    borys 14 October 2020 13: 19 New
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    They themselves will never figure it out. Will be able to stop this mess
    only external force (or forces). The only question is who it will be
    force.
  19. svoit
    svoit 14 October 2020 13: 21 New
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    The article is somehow delusional, I don’t remember a case when a defeat would lead to the destruction of a nation, it was only the Jews who did this many years ago.
  20. bar
    bar 14 October 2020 13: 55 New
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    They understand that the war has been lost.

    I'm afraid the author is passing off his conclusions as truth. Nothing is lost, nor is it won. The Armenians are not threatened with another genocide. And the hangout around Karabakh will continue for a very long time. Aliyev will wring out a couple of districts from the "security zone" seized by Armenia, so that he has something to write down in his victory and save face, and he will stop. Another hot truce will begin.
  21. Alexeitch
    Alexeitch 14 October 2020 14: 14 New
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    What happened was what should have happened - without their own ideology, the people turn into a crowd, an okhlos that is easy to manipulate. It is not difficult to predict that exactly the same will soon happen in Belarus, and in the Donbass, and possibly even in the Crimea. We desperately need our own, built on a modern scientific base, state. ideology, moreover, post-materialistic ideology. The materialistic worldview inevitably leads to neoliberalism and further to Satanism, gives rise to egocentrism, consumer psychology and the atomization of society. We see this with our own eyes on the example of the United States. And materialism has been refuted by modern quantum physics - the most advanced and authoritative scientific direction today - consciousness is primary, not matter, which radically changes everything!
  22. Kronos
    Kronos 14 October 2020 14: 24 New
    0
    Until recently, the author's Russia was going to stop the presumptuous Erdogan and Azerbaijan, but now, well, no, there is nothing to be done.
  23. iouris
    iouris 14 October 2020 14: 59 New
    +1
    This is not a war, but a geopolitical provocation, started on the eve of some decisive events in order to clearly show that the "king" is naked.
  24. WayKheThuo
    WayKheThuo 14 October 2020 16: 13 New
    -1
    And again Russia will be in charge of the situation. Or won't it? ..

    I really hope that the mind is enough and will not be.
    You are now all grown-ups, independent, with passports - take care of and clean up the bloody porridge yourself.
  25. Pshelts
    Pshelts 14 October 2020 17: 10 New
    +1
    Armenia's resources will melt before our eyes. The country will rapidly become poorer and eventually turn into a kind of Ukraine.

    Well, this is unlikely ... The Armenian lobby, like the Jewish one, is very strong in the world .. Remember, they achieved the official recognition of the Armenian Genocide by the Turks in the UN .. And it’s not so easy.!
    I don't like Pashinyan came to power amid protests, including anti-Russian
    So here you can still argue who will take it .. Economically and geographically, Azerbaijan is certainly stronger, but Armenia is not so simple if it has been holding on to its territory for so many centuries despite the encirclement of hostile states ..
    Let's see what happens this time! PEACE TO ALL!
  26. Babayka babaykin
    Babayka babaykin 14 October 2020 20: 38 New
    -2
    Well, then the Azerbaijanis are right ☝️ this is their land seized by the gurgen ☝️ what is there to be surprised at, everything is correct, they are freeing their land, we Russians do not need to go there ☝️☝️
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 14 October 2020 22: 53 New
      0
      It is only important to get better, that the surrounding countries de jure recognized that this is the territory of Azerbaijan and such an algorithm is permissible. If one of the major players changes his mind, “their” land will immediately cease to be.
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  28. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 14 October 2020 22: 51 New
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    1. Azerbaijan does not need a truce. They aim to capture (liberate) the entire Karabakh. Stopping on a small piece is a thin mess.

    2. The forceful outcome of the operation is obvious. The question is whether Azerbaijan will pull out a long bloody war politically. At a certain level of losses among the citizens of Azerbaijan, problems will begin. Unless, after the destruction of all Armenian heavy weapons, only imported militants will suffer further losses.
  29. Victorm
    Victorm 15 October 2020 00: 16 New
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    Quote: Pshelty
    ... but Armenia is not so simple, if for so many centuries it has been keeping in its territory despite being surrounded by hostile states.
    Present Armenia did not exist until the Russian Empire conquered the Transcaucasus. The Armenians lost their statehood during the reign of King Peas, after which they became a tumbleweed in the Middle East, so that nothing but "blah-blah" and the tales of the Hayevs did not hold on for centuries, and simply could not hold on. At the moment, without Russia, Armenia is nothing in every sense, not only in the military sense, but they have forgotten it, apparently believing in their own fairy tale that Armenia has been holding out for eleven centuries.
    But this is all the lyrics.

    And now about life, or rather death. To date, only the officially recognized casualties of Armenia are 555 people. As we understand, the real losses are much and much higher. Taking into account the other part of the losses due to serious injuries, it was once said - no eyes, arms, legs, etc., plus moderate injuries, a catastrophic number of servicemen left the Armenian Armed Forces. The mobilization is total, practically the last reserves within Armenia itself have been mobilized, the leadership of Armenia and the puppet NKR are already forced to publicly admit the severity of the losses, and already persistently appeal to the foreign diaspora with calls for volunteers.

    The leadership of Armenia, assessing the scale of the offensive and the nature of the battles, at the beginning realized that it had outplayed it in provocation and, among other things, itself created favorable conditions for the start of a full-scale war by Azerbaijan. Realizing the limitedness of its reserves and the loss of the situation, the leadership of Armenia made a decision and from the first days it chose the tactics of inflicting massive strikes on frontline settlements, with the gradual transfer of fire deep into the territory of the population, in order to provoke panic and discontent among the civilian population. Despite significant destruction and casualties, the tactics of the Armenian leadership did not justify themselves, they began to raise the stakes, the large-caliber MLRS Smerch, OTRK Elbrus and Tochka-U were used. The strategic infrastructure facilities of Azerbaijan were under attack, including the dam of the Mingechevir reservoir and the Azerbaijan State District Power Plant, which generates more than half of the electricity in Azerbaijan. Attempts to get from the MLRS Smerch were unsuccessful. The next step was a strike with an Elbrus (Scud) OTRK missile on Ganja, perhaps they tried to get at the Ganja airport, as they claim, but the fact remains that they hit the residential area, fortunately there were fewer casualties and destruction than could have been. All that I am listing is already MILITARY CRIMES, we played with this phrase so much that we ceased to understand the semantic load, to realize all the gravity of guilt for such actions. According to the logic of the criminal, it would be worth hiding at least for a while, because the Armenian side, represented by the political and military leadership, claimed that it did not strike at Ganja with the help of the OTRK and, in general, not a single bullet, not a single shell was fired from the territory of Armenia in the direction of Azerbaijan. In principle, I could, at the worst, with the least losses for myself, get out of this situation in which I got stuck with a blow to Ganja and attempts to hit the infrastructure.
    However, the situation is so original that Armenia decides to try again. Apparently, they tried to strike with several loyalty rockets either at the dam or at the state district power station in Mingechaur. In any case, this would lead to numerous casualties among the civilian population, the count would go to tens of thousands, and to a major environmental disaster. Of course, Azerbaijan expected such a blow, especially after the first attempts, but let's not overestimate its capabilities, the reconnaissance and target designation drone, shock drones were not accidentally in this area. A catastrophe of such a scale that Pashinyan and the leadership of the Armenian Ministry of Defense NEEDED ANYONE, many do not understand, but this is real trash, which all the more could lead to retaliatory actions and even greater trouble. Only one country could provide reliable information on the Armenian Armed Forces and its plans, and apparently it promptly and in advance passed it to Azerbaijan, I will not specify, you can guess which one. As a result, at night and in the morning, Azerbaijan struck twice on the positions of the deployed OTRK of the Armenian Armed Forces, frustrating Pashinyan's plans and, in the course of his owners, who decided to raise the stakes. But they also caught Pashinyan and the Armenian Defense Ministry by the hand, presenting clear evidence of their criminal actions and intentions. I will repeat once again, many simply played with tanchiki and sometimes they cannot understand reality, cannot assess the scale of that disaster by the result of the actions that the current leadership of Armenia planned to commit.

    In total, there was the 18th day of the war, not the third, not the fourth month, but in Armenia there is already a catastrophic situation. According to the info that I have from friends, not only are the irrecoverable losses high, but also the strongest failure in medicine, in ensuring the timeliness of assistance, in the quality of evacuation - the percentage of the wounded passing from one category to another (minor injury, moderate, severe) is just huge.

    If everything continues in the same spirit, then if the days of the Armenian Armed Forces are not numbered, then at least they will not be able to conduct battles of the same intensity in a week - 10 days. How it will end and a no brainer.
  30. Andrey Novoseltsev
    Andrey Novoseltsev 15 October 2020 12: 44 New
    +1
    I read a cheap article. such a feeling that the author feeds from Baku. that for the letter predictions about the Karabakh army. a couple of posts is not a victory yet. such a courageous defense after the Second World War has not yet been. you do not forget the population of Azerbaijan is 3 times larger than Armenia. plus a few thousands and they say about 5000 militants and plus Turkish special forces and soldiers. the ratio is 1: 4 or 1: 5. strong support for weapons by Turkey. Israel. Pakistan and Afghanistan. and we Russians just express concern. the next target will be Russia
  31. Mmm.
    Mmm. 15 October 2020 13: 34 New
    0
    The Armenian state should itself solve its problems with the Azerbaijani state, if any of them wins or loses, Russia has no gesheft that Armenians, that Azerbaijanis equally hate Russians.
  32. Victor Zakharov
    Victor Zakharov 15 October 2020 17: 27 New
    -1
    Well written. Unfortunately, Armenia no longer evokes the same sense of belonging as it did before. The Russian government's rusophobia has played a role. The war has become indifferent for Russians.
  33. high
    high 16 October 2020 05: 42 New
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    The war in Karabakh is a war of arms between Russia and Israel that could have happened in Syria, but, fortunately for both countries, it did not happen ..
    Azerbaijan bought from Israel modern precision weapons:
    - HAROP drones - for the destruction of highly protected targets, loitering SkyStriker ammunition, huge Hermes drones
    - long-range ground-to-ground ballistic missiles LORA,
    - anti-tank missiles "Spike"
    - multilevel air defense system: anti-aircraft missile system "Barak - 8" with radar complex "Green Pine", SAM "SPYDER-SR", "Iron Dome"
    - modernized several dozen Azerbaijani T-72 tanks, installing new fire control systems and modern armor on Azerbaijani tanks.
    - 20-mm self-propelled mortars CARDOM
    - portable remote demining systems POMINS-2, capable of creating 50 m long and 1,5 m wide passages in minefields in half a minute.
    - small-sized submachine guns "Micro-Uzi", assault rifles "Tavor-21" and a light machine gun "Negev"
    - V-300 grenade launchers, providing penetration of up to 400 mm of homogeneous armor,
    - 155-mm self-propelled gun mounts ATMOS 2000
    - off-road vehicles such as Storm in reconnaissance and patrol version

    Armenia purchased: from Russia:
    - Iskander missile systems
    - SU-30SM fighters
    - air defense systems: S-300, Buk-M1-2, Tor-M2KM, Osa-AK
    - Flamethrower System: ,, sunshine ,,,
    - multiple launch rocket system Smerch
    - anti-tank missiles 9M113M
    - armored vehicles Tiger
    - complexes of electronic intelligence
    -
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  35. super-vitek
    super-vitek 16 October 2020 14: 15 New
    +1
    Another thing is striking. Honestly, it doesn't matter who wins or loses. The cruelty with which the warriors treat each other is striking. They scoff at the fallen, finish off the wounded. Inhumans. Not warriors, but Neanderthals without honor and conscience ... Such "allies" as Armenians, and neighbors Azerbaijanis, God forbid ... Worse enemies !!!
  36. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 21 October 2020 01: 31 New
    0
    Quote: max702
    there are constant interests of great Russia


    Gold words.
    Finally, they began to monitor the true needs of our people.
  37. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 21 October 2020 01: 33 New
    -1
    Quote: alta
    but fortunately for both countries,


    I will correct it.
    Lucky for Israel