Medvedev: NATO threatens Russia's national security in the Arctic

Dmitry Medvedev, who currently holds the post of deputy head of the Russian Federation's Security Council, says that the United States and other NATO member states are not abandoning their attempts to limit Russia's activities in the Arctic region in various ways. However, he notes the variety of methods used.

The former Russian president and prime minister said this today during a meeting of the interdepartmental commission of the Security Council of the Russian Federation dealing with the problems of ensuring the national interests of the Russian Federation in the Arctic.

To achieve its goals, the North Atlantic Alliance is building up its military presence in the Arctic region, exerting sanctions pressure on our country and using other levers.

All these actions, from the point of view of Dmitry Medvedev, threaten Russia's national security in the Arctic.

He noted that Moscow is committed to peaceful cooperation with other countries, but alas, not everyone adheres to such views.

It is known that individual states, primarily the North Atlantic Alliance, including the United States of America, are trying to persistently limit our activities in the Arctic.

- noted the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation.

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[Livonetc]

Pan Ataman Dmitrian Arctic.

[Same lech]

Dmitry Anatolyevich he is so ... the train left a long time ago and he still hasn't realized it... we should have been worried about this starting with the unification of Germany... when NATO, in violation of all verbal promises, having deceived Gorbachev, began to advance towards our borders... now we have what we have... NATO members are conducting live-fire exercises several dozen kilometers from our borders... and simulating attacks by strategic bombers on our cities.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Dmitry Anatolyevich, he is like this... the train left long ago and he still hasn't realized it...

Have they dragged the iPhone by the ears? SUDDENLY discovered a threat? Well, nothing - now he will read it from a piece of paper and continue to play ...

Did you hear about Georgia by chance from the big guys in 2008?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Have they dragged the iPhone by the ears? SUDDENLY discovered a threat? Well, nothing - now he will read it from a piece of paper and continue to play ...

Dress up in the skin of a polar bear and send it to the Arctic to defend the interests of Russia with parting words: "There will be no food, but you hold on there!" ...

[Piramidon]

Well, what if we rename the icebreaker "Arktika" to "Dima Medvedev"? Dima will calm down.

[Overlock]

Quote: Piramidon

Well, what is it worth to rename the icebreaker "Arktika" to "Dima Medvedev"?

as you name the boat, it will sail

[hydrox]

Did you pay attention to the village ice hole in the river?
And also swims ...

[hydrox]

What is he, fig, Pan Ataman, if he has no gold reserve?
And it won't ...
And Russia will not have ...

[Livonetc]

Someone is planning to bash him?
In 2019, Russia increased its monetary gold reserves to 2270,56 tons (73 million ounces), maintaining its fifth place in the ranking of world gold reserves.

[Rubi0]

Yes, there are these figures who are hindered by the chieftain and they themselves are not averse to taking his gold reserve a dime a dozen. Of course, for the good and for the distribution of pensions

[hydrox]

Please revise "Wedding in Robin".
You look, join ...

[halpat]

Quote: hydrox

What is he, fig, Pan Ataman, if he has no gold reserve?
And it won't ...
And Russia will not have ...

I'm thinking ... will Vavan start pushing Bear into successor again?
I will vote "against" if this happens. And though the grass does not grow.

[ZEMCH]

Medvedev: NATO threatens Russia's national security in the Arctic

NATO threatens us not only in the Arctic, but also along all the borders of Russia

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ZEMCH

NATO threatens us not only in the Arctic, but also along all the borders of Russia

 But they clung to the Arctic tightly, and will never let go. It is necessary to prepare a "response".

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: tihonmarine

It is necessary to prepare a "response".

what otvetka from this gopher?
"Arctic Substitution"?

[Asad]

Maybe the icebreakers will be built first, or will they follow ours?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ASAD

Maybe the icebreakers will be built first, or will they follow ours?

They will also want to build icebreakers, the shipbuilding industry is at their best.

[hydrox]

I would be careful about the height: "D.Ford" does not get out of repairs for them (although it has been in service for 3 years already), there is no time to go hiking, and there are no 30-knot tugboats in the staff!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: hydrox

I would be careful about the height: "D. Ford" does not get out of repairs for them (although it has been in service for 3 years)

I would think the opposite. "Gerald R. Ford" is not an icebreaker, but a product a hundred times higher in all parameters. And Newport News Shipbuilding cannot be compared in any parameters with the Baltic shipyard, or even with any shipyard in Russia. I saw this shipyard in person, it is simply a colossus. They can build and customize whatever your heart desires. And how many such shipyards are there in the USA.
Therefore, you need to throw all your strength to build an ice fleet, and to strengthen the Arctic borders, delay is like death.

[hydrox]

The proposal is controversial, but there is no doubt the presence of common sense: it makes sense to talk about the forms of its implementation.

[vVvAD]

The shipbuilding industry is at its best, yes. But there is very little experience in building ice-class ships, and no nuclear icebreakers at all. So it will take them at least 10-20 years just to develop the relevant competencies - it's like us starting to produce Nimitz-class aircraft carriers right away.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: vVvAD

The shipbuilding industry is great, yes. But the experience of building ice-class ships cried like a cat,

This is done simply, the most experienced icebreaker construction specialists, the Finns from the Wärtsilä factories, are invited for a good salary, and within two years the state workers will begin to rivet modern icebreakers.

[vVvAD]

Diesel? Oh well

And then they are constantly doing this in all areas of scientific and technological progress - and something of nuclear icebreakers in the United States is not even visible on the horizon.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: vVvAD

something of nuclear icebreakers in the United States is not even visible on the horizon.

Is it a problem to put a nuclear reactor instead of diesels? They have experience in the construction of transport ships and military.

[vVvAD]

Mental simplicity. How tedious it is to explain this to you: it will not work just to take out the GTE and put in its place a nuclear reactor. For a nuclear reactor, you need to design a ship from scratch - a completely different ship. Therefore, the Finnish technologies of diesel icebreakers are not suitable: first, they transfer technologies to you and teach you for 5 years (yes: do not forget about the various weight and size, strength and other characteristics of fasteners and other structural products, different grades of steel and generally different metric systems in Europe and the USA - from ready-made drawings and other technical documentation will be useful only in the sense of conceptual solutions), then you start to design your nuclear icebreaker: 2-3 years for a preliminary design, research and development work on developing new technologies and adapting and bringing the existing and obtained from the Finns for nuclear icebreakers - more 2-8 years, ROC - from 2 years and finally the construction of a prototype - can be done in 4.
Now count it.
But that's not all: there are also the requirements of the fleet and the capabilities of developers - look at the fate of the LCS and EM type Zamwalt programs, the problems with the AV type of General Ford - it is not such a simple matter to develop and put into operation something completely new on unproven technologies ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: vVvAD

Therefore, the Finnish technologies of diesel icebreakers are not suitable: first they transfer technology to you and train you for 5 years

You have forgotten that many nuclear-powered icebreakers were built at the Vyartsilya shipyard in Helsinki, and the nuclear power plant was installed in Leningrad. So the states don't need 5 years.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

I do not understand those who scoff at an unpopular person, and not his words. But the words he said about the right!
Unfortunately, many people forget the famous Russian proverb ...

[Pshelts]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

I do not understand those who scoff at an unpopular person, and not his words. But the words he said about the right!
Unfortunately, many people forget the famous Russian proverb ...

Dimon never says anything without permission... This is already an axiom and that is why people speak out so irritably. Without him, there are more problems than ever and here he is with his statements with bleary eyes. They gave him a cushy job, so let him sit and keep quiet...

[keeper03]

I decided to remind about myself, otherwise they forgot the poor thing!
All Russian citizens have been shouting for a long time that NATO is at the borders of the Motherland, and Dimon's only veil has left his eyes!

[hydrox]

Yes, you are right, a very well-known proverb: "Whose cow would moan, but this one would be silent!"

[Vladimir Mashkov]

There are a LOT of Russian proverbs, but I did not mean the one that you brought, but "they are greeted according to their clothes, but they are seen off according to their mind."

As for the statement of Medvedev (you call him familiarly Dimon), he did not say anything criminal or stupid IN THIS CASE. In addition, he did not "come out" with his "discoveries", but spoke about it at a meeting of the commission.

I don't like Medvedev either. But I prefer to be honest, fair and objective ALWAYS and to everyone.

I repeat once again: I DO NOT like idle scoffing, competition in "wit" and mockery at someone for no reason.

[hydrox]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

As for Medvedev's statement (you call him familiarly Dimon),

It will be too much honor for him if I SUDDENLY (and why such a drink! ??) start calling him Dimon - no need to slander me.
But the intelligence of a statesman is revealed by his actions - and Plushik has a lot of problems with this, both in quantity and quality. And if someone suddenly wants to look at the ideological direction, he will be very surprised: love and respect for the thieving oligarchs will ooze from all the seams ...

[Vladimir Mashkov]

"You" did not mean specifically you, but all your fellow thinkers in the topic.
I repeat: I DO NOT like it when ANY person is called names and mocked for PAST misdeeds that have been repeatedly condemned. This is very dishonorable! And not according to the law.

[hydrox]

This is your good quality :: you cannot kick the fallen ones.
But you must understand us too: we feel ourselves as representatives of the people who owned the property of a fabulously rich country and who had the opportunity to travel once every 2 years only at the expense of their 132 rubles pension from Siberia to the Black Sea, while Medvedev is the face of that very power, which we (42 million people) robbed and robbed, engaged in increasing their own solvency - and it is clear that we do not like this, but in addition it is also very insulting ..
Just don't be surprised later when the government SUDDENLY learns from its own experience how many people from among the pensioners know how to hold a PC and not only that...
After all, everything happens suddenly, starting with some little thing ...

[Vladimir Mashkov]

I regret the USSR no less than you do, I respect Lenin and Stalin very much, I don't like Medvedev and other... bad people. But Medvedev didn't say anything bad at the commission meeting! Why kick him? Why pour out your anger for no reason?

[vVvAD]

He is also a lawyer and, quite possibly, participates in the creation and development of the national legal regime of the NSR.

Speaking of personalities: Sergei Kirienko is also unpopular due to the fact that he was made a scapegoat in the man-made crisis of 1998, but his achievements as head of Rosatom are indisputable: the land of several power units at domestic nuclear power plants, the commissioning of the Bushehr nuclear power plant in Iran, participation in development and production of FNPP "Academician Lomonosov", YARD for AUV "Poseidon", KR "Burevestnik" and TEM "Nuclon".
And the cursed Serdyukov cleared the way for Shoigu's reforms - no matter how cynical it may sound. Perhaps there was another way out - evolutionary. But it would have taken decades to remake the existing system in conditions when the reform of the army was supposed to begin yesterday - and this was perfectly shown by the 5-day war with Georgia on 08.08.08. Of course, it was not without strong errors and excesses, but when destroying / reformatting the structure, they cannot be avoided - they cut something alive.

The conductors of unpopular but necessary measures are always cursed.
Think better about how to agree to this and live with the stigma of the people's shame.

[fruc]

"..... it is known that individual states, primarily the North Atlantic Alliance, including the United States of America, are trying to persistently limit our activities in the Arctic ....

I have worked my bread.

[yehat2]

Quote: Medvedev

NATO threatens Russia's national security in the Arctic

And weren't you, dear he is not a dimon, at one time you slept through the war with Georgia, did you not give a serious piece of Norway, did you sign the documents recognizing Katyn and made a whole series of deflections?
Woke up, security suddenly became unsafe.
Finally, I realized that immunity in the West is not for sale, but hammered in so that the scar remains.
And as the scar heals, it needs to be renewed.

[for]

Quote: yehat2

Finally realized

Not what he did not understand, these are the words on duty.

[fruc]

Let's not forget another "strategist" of the Russian army ngsh N. Makarov, who distinguished himself in the events of 08082008.

[hydrox]

And how Serbia wants to "hang" on it !!!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: yehat2

Finally, I realized that immunity in the West is not for sale, but hammered in so that the scar remains.

Yes, he "did not" Dimon "did not understand, but simply read the paper, which he was ordered to read. For the money he gets, anyone can read it once a quarter.

[Karabin]

Quote: yehat2

And weren't you, dear he is not a dimon, at one time you slept through the war with Georgia, did you not give a serious piece of Norway, did you sign the documents recognizing Katyn and made a whole series of deflections?

Zits-president, whose main task was to warm the chair, could he do the above without the highest approval?

[hydrox]

Then they thought that any intellectual has brains and the ability to think ...
It turns out that not all ... - this is not the case for lawyers ...

[Radical]

Medvedev: NATO threatens Russia's national security in the Arctic

What a "fresh" thought!

[Piramidon]

Quote: Radikal

What a "fresh" thought!

The main thing is "smart" and on a burning topic. It has been a long time since he was heard. Makes it known about its existence. Apparently, he is making his way to some new position.

[volodimer]

It looks like there is a shortage of personnel again, and such a "competent manager" is sitting idle.

[Svarog]

NATO threatens Russia's national security in the Arctic

To a greater extent, national security is threatened by those who are now at the helm ..

[7,62x54]

Dima hold the watermelon

[jovanni]

... It is known that individual states, primarily the North Atlantic Alliance, including the United States of America, are trying to persistently limit our activities in the Arctic.

But when will they open their eyes and descend from heaven to earth ?! They do not limit our activities, but want to stop it. Everywhere. Quite ... And this is said by the Deputy Head of the Security Council of the Russian Federation. With such personnel, it is difficult to give more than a penny for this safety ...

[Ross xnumx]

At first, we gave the whole country to Medvedev's "skillful hands" and, after all the tests he had not passed, we decided to entrust him with security. Something tells me that he will again start dividing Arctic security up to and above the Arctic Circle ...
Another "experimenter" ...

[tovarich-andrey.62goncharov]

Or rather, an excrement ...

[New Year day]

Quote: ROSS 42

he will again start dividing Arctic security up to and above the Arctic Circle ..

He has only one action - subtraction. Once he started crowing, he was about to give something away.

[Virus-free crown]

about "NATO threatens us in the Arctic" - although I do not like the "hatred" - but until NATO's "threat" in the Arctic has not grown "... But if for 10-15 years we will "rest on our laurels" - it will definitely grow and outgrow ... the main thing is that we will not be allowed to do this !!!

for a start - all the "saws" of the budget of the Armed Forces of Russia to prosecute ... and then ... you see ... we will be able to defend Artik soooo that no NATO member there will agree to appear EVEN under pain of death !!!

[evgen1221]

Yes, in general, they do not need a lot of submarines, the northern fleet will be enough and not only the military to block or sink. And then we will only have to wag our ears from the shore, watching their drilling further 15 miles from the shore.

[Alien From]

And this one got out from where again

[Guru]

All these actions, from the point of view of Dmitry Medvedev, threaten Russia's national security in the Arctic.

Well, who would have thought? Threatening! Oh really ? We didn't know.
Lord, Medvedev woke up Captain obvious

[Gardamir]

With what joy everyone found the culprit.
But it is not Dimon who is guilty, but the one who shouted from the branches, there is a cunning plan and it is more accurate. So please be understanding.

[opuonmed]

not current in the Arctic!

[Alexfly]

The answer is simple: draw the border according to the patterns of the USSR! The desire to swim in that direction will diminish ...

[Igor Polovodov]

Privatize the den, urgently point.

[1536]

Yeah, the decision is apparently known: to convene an international conference, to determine a consensus? Further, Russia will be given oral promises that all NATO activities are not directed against it and will quietly ask to leave, offering to make the Northern Sea Route international waters.
Isn't it easier to just make sure that there is a network of Russian military bases along the entire length of the Northern Sea Route, ports, piers, railways are reconstructed, and an infrastructure is created for an acceptable life for people. Isn't it a national idea in the short term?
Otherwise it turns out that it is difficult to use the Northern Sea Route, because the ports are not equipped, and the ports are not equipped, because it is difficult to use the Northern Sea Route. But then, it's scary to think, NATO really looks at everything that happens in the Russian Arctic as an ownerless territory.

[hydrox]

The problem is that the NSR is considered a shipping route ABOVE the archipelagos, closer to the pole, and for some reason it is believed that "sworn enemies" will not go there, but the submarine fleet is not closed there!

[Private89]

Maybe then there was no need for Norway, a NATO member to give 80 thousand kilometers of its territory? Or to enter the WTO, which was not profitable and made our producers defenseless, no one has yet raised the industry by opening their markets, or maybe you and the bourgeois class that you, along with the gentleman, are not exactly a comrade president serve, was not such a task ? Or maybe it was worth stopping the capital outflow from the country to the countries of a potential enemy? Or maybe not let the Americans, whom you are so afraid to come to Siberia and take control of all hydropower, as the Americans did not let us buy Opel? So in order to act in the interests of the country, you need to serve not your business interests, but the interests of the people, although what I mean, you once again showed your attitude towards the people by your pension reform, and by 30 years of national betrayal. As long as this class of bourgeois is in power, we will not live humanly on this earth.

[New Year day]

Does Medvedev threaten Russia's interests?

[hydrox]

Sylvester, is this a question or a statement? ... But still readable.

[From Tomsk]

Yes, soon the Russian huts will be captured by NATO soldiers. What a twist.

[jeka424]

Money must be written off under the alleged threat

[Charik]

Is he awake?

[Cyril G ...]

You look Medvedev woke up !!!

[rocket757]

Medvedev: NATO threatens Russia's national security in the Arctic

It would be better if it didn't speak and disappeared from the horizon altogether ..
Look at the picture ... who does it resemble ??? And I remembered .... the truth was not an iPhone in his hands, but corn or a shoe, well, other times, other "big uncles have toys ....."

[cniza]

No wonder they say - silence is golden, but for him twice ... Greetings!

[rocket757]

Welcome
For some, it is better to just leave so that they would never see him again!
Our du / R / do not know how ... however, for politicians, any, this is not uncommon at all.

[cniza]

If they understood this, we would not hear them, and when they do not understand this, we all the more do not hear them.

[hydrox]

That's right: in Russia they grow into power forever, up to the blackboard on the wall of the house.

[rocket757]

Come on, we are not unique in this, although this is not at all happy.
It is necessary to leave on time, although some would NEVER appear there, which for them, for us, would be even better b.

[Flagman]

Quote: cniza

No wonder they say - silence is golden, but for him twice ... Greetings!

You are right Victor, it would be better if Dimon kept his mouth shut and did not annoy the people .. I got out here with my discovery .. Then we all did not know this without him .. There are no longer just threats in the Arctic, but I am concentrating NATO troops directly by the invasion and setting fire borders around Russia. So much for democracy and friendship with the United States. Almost drowned in blood in the 90s.

[yehat2]

Quote: for

Quote: yehat2

Finally realized

Not what he did not understand, these are the words on duty.

no, he got it. The lads had a kipish when in the XNUMXs the West almost took everything from them after a number of years of disgrace, but Putiin was able to stabilize the situation. However, we relaxed, again a number of years of total frustration passed and again our olig (offenes) archives feel that their feeding trough can be liquidated.
and repetition is the basis of training.

[north 2]

So what if God accidentally offered Medvedev a portion of the mind of a statesman, that he shouldn't limit himself to Abkhazia and North Ossetia, but should go to Tbilisi and liberate all of Georgia. Liberal
Medvedev would not appreciate this and would not understand what God is offering him. And this is because Medvedev
was not and is not a state-imperial official. So how can he understand the true dangers for
Russia in the north in the Arctic, if he did not understand these dangers in the south in Georgia and today in Georgia we have
NATO's training ground and a nest of enemies of Russia, which is commanded by that very same NATO. That very NATO, which, according to Medvedev, threatens Russia in the Arctic. Now that's news - NATO is threatening in the Arctic!
It was necessary in 2008 to go to Tbilisi, then not only American puppets in Georgia would appreciate
Russia's resolve, but it would be appreciated at NATO headquarters that Russia, defending its interests, would
act very decisively and powerfully everywhere. And then NATO would not be gaping at the Arctic today...

[fruc]

Then the Western partners would not understand. They had only to hint that they were not happy.

[Flagman]

Medvedev generally listen and I can not see .. Immediately gag reflex. I would be silent and dozing there at the Security Council meetings .. Something else blathers.

[Adimius38]

and he didn't forget about Ukraine???? as if it is much closer than the Arctic. That is, looking at the beaches in Anapa from a B-52 is normal, but the Arctic is worrying. Ukraine is rushing to join NATO, is this also normal, NATO NAVAL BASE in Nikolaev in the near future is normal? and I am still silent about the network of airfields in Ukraine that can easily be used after reconstruction for NATO aviation.

[K298rtm]

At the current time, activities in the Arctic are much more limited by our technical (and possibly political) capabilities (in my humble opinion).

[Gvardeetz77]

Quote: hydrox

What is he, fig, Pan Ataman, if he has no gold reserve?

There is an alternative opinion that he has it ... :)

[hydrox]

The widespread opinion (Ilim Pulp is expensive!), But then not Pan Ataman, but a "citizen under investigation"

[Poru4ik]

Maybe try to translate the arrows? Suddenly it will help.

[Romanenko]

The main thing is that his activity, which is quite vigorous, has been limited where it is not necessary, and we will somehow deal with NATO, they are causing less harm for now

[ee2100]

other levers

which ones?

[Deniso]

Selling Norway's oil shelf to Medvedev, what has limited Russia?

[Radical]

Quote: AlexFly

The answer is simple: draw the border according to the patterns of the USSR! The desire to swim in that direction will diminish ...

Do you mean it?

The state border of the Soviet Union is a line and a vertical surface passing along this line, defining the limits of the state territory (land, water, subsoil and air space) of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the spatial limit of the effect of its state sovereignty.

[iouris]

Keep getting rich.

[Angelo Provolone]

ABOUT! The major woke up. He waves his fist. Are you tired of the iPhone?

[AshPoseidon]

Medvedev: NATO threatens Russia's national security in the Arctic

I was just thinking about this too, only much earlier. Maybe I too can go to the deputy.

[Mmm.]

This is the Medvedev who gave our maritime possessions to the Norwegians, a noble caretaker, a statesman !!!

[iouris]

Yeah. Heading NATO and Medvedev.