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"Not in favor of Yerevan": In Poland, the military potentials of Armenia and Azerbaijan were quantitatively compared

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The Polish press comments on the fighting that continues in Nagorno-Karabakh, despite the agreements reached in Moscow on a humanitarian truce.


In particular, it is noted that every day the Azerbaijani side reports on the capture of certain territories under its control, including villages in areas previously under the control of Armenian troops. We are talking about the regions that adjoin the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic.

An author in the Polish Defense24 writes that the armed forces of Azerbaijan are more powerful than the armed forces of Armenia and that Azerbaijan has a higher military potential in general. The comparison, as noted, is not in favor of Yerevan.

From the material where the comparison is made, including on military budgets:

According to SIPRI, Armenia's total military spending in 2009-2018 amounted to $ 4,36 billion. The military budget last year amounted to $ 673,3 million. This is about 4,9% of the country's GDP. Azerbaijan's military expenditures in 2019 amounted to $ 1,854 billion, which corresponds to approximately 4% of the republic's air force.

It was additionally noted that the number of the Azerbaijani army exceeds the number of the armies of Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh.

Information about the reservists with reference to Wojciech Gurecki, analyst at the Center for Oriental Studies in Warsaw:

The number of mobilized reservists in Azerbaijan exceeds 300 thousand, in Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh - 210 thousand.

In the comments to this material, the reader noted that "the author forgot to mention the militants whom NATO member Turkey transferred to Azerbaijan."

From comments:

Why is there Armenia. With this help, Azerbaijan has a greater potential than Poland.

The Armenian side owes its failures to the training system that has been conducted for it recently according to NATO standards.
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  1. KKND
    KKND 13 October 2020 11: 21
    12
    These are the experts, the captain is taking a rest. Why is there an article about the fact that Azerbaijan is stronger than Armenia? Are we preparing readers for Armenia to surrender its negotiating positions? request
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 13 October 2020 11: 24
      12
      "Not in favor of Yerevan": In Poland, the military potentials of Armenia and Azerbaijan were quantitatively compared

      The fighting is going on for the third week, and the Poles have just uncovered their assessment of the forces of the parties?
    2. iouris
      iouris 13 October 2020 12: 27
      0
      Quote: KKND
      Are we preparing readers for Armenia to surrender its negotiating positions?

      It is pointless to compare potentials, because neither Pashinyan nor Aliyev are sovereign in their policies. The sovereign director.
      Armenia is Pashinyan. He provoked a war in order to get rid of both Karabakh and the influence of "militarists" and dependence on the Russian Federation. Aliyev has his own internal reasons (fear of losing power) and “pride” that Pashin has infringed.
      What kind of contractual positions of Pashinyan can we talk about? He "made an agreement" with someone in "civilized and democratic countries". With whom, with the "director"?
      Aliyev also did not consult with Moscow. The war in Karabakh unfolded at a very inappropriate moment for Moscow, and therefore, according to the plan, it should lead to another major geopolitical success of the "director" and create a threat to Tehran and Moscow from the region. Neither Armenia nor Azerbaijan will benefit from this war, no matter what military potential they have, and even less Pashinyan and Aliyev.
      1. KKND
        KKND 13 October 2020 12: 43
        +3
        Cool conspiracy theory good , but I do not really understand what role Israel plays in all this? Please add. wink
        1. iouris
          iouris 13 October 2020 15: 16
          +1
          Excuse me. Israel is increasing its influence in Azerbaijan to create a springboard for a strike on Iran.
          Conspiracy theory is a stage passed. This is already practice.
          1. KKND
            KKND 13 October 2020 15: 37
            +2
            Quote: iouris
            Excuse me. Israel is increasing its influence in Azerbaijan to create a springboard for a strike on Iran.

            Thank you, now there is something to think about for the rest of your life.
          2. VyacheSeymour
            VyacheSeymour 13 October 2020 19: 18
            +2
            Israel is increasing its influence in Azerbaijan ...

            ???? - in what way? ... And why not in India with Barak-8?
      2. prapor55
        prapor55 13 October 2020 16: 51
        0
        That is why it’s common sense that the sofa generals lupanuli minus you, but I corrected it to the best of my ability. hi
  2. Grandfather
    Grandfather 13 October 2020 11: 23
    +5
    "Not in favor of Yerevan": In Poland, the military potentials of Armenia and Azerbaijan were quantitatively compared
    "open secret" ... "captains obvious."
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 13 October 2020 13: 14
      0
      The trouble for the Armenian people is that they are very scattered throughout the world. Unfortunately, the wealthy Armenian diasporas do little to support their homeland with money and weapons. If there was this help, Armenia would oppose Azerbaijan on equal terms. hi
      1. VyacheSeymour
        VyacheSeymour 13 October 2020 19: 23
        +2
        If there was this help, Armenia would oppose Azerbaijan on equal terms.

        But unfortunately, why are the talents of this people manifested far from Armenia? ... -a paradox? -Or regularity?
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 October 2020 11: 32
    +8
    The Armenian side owes its failures to the training system that has been conducted for it recently according to NATO standards
    Good point. How the Georgians were proud of NATO training, American equipment, that the roof moved down from external attributes and considered themselves the strongest in the region. AND...? The chant: "The West will help us and teach us everything" has already lost its relevance. But in fairness, it should be noted that Azerbaijani servicemen are trained by Turkish and even American instructors (in particular, special forces).
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 13 October 2020 11: 44
      11
      Apparently, not a horse feed.
      The precedents are known. What kind of teachers the Arabs once had, what kind of weapons and advisers with instructors were not sent to them, but there was no sense. request
      1. karima
        karima 13 October 2020 11: 50
        +5
        Quote: A. Privalov
        What teachers the Arabs once had, what kind of weapons and advisers with instructors were not sent to them, but there was no sense.
        Risk group - Gogia:
        "WE ARE TO WAR
        GAVE THOUGHT NOT ONE
        JUST HERE AS TO HARD
        THE MONEY EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO ... SAND "
      2. MKPU-115
        MKPU-115 13 October 2020 11: 57
        0
        How was it not good?
        On foreign territory, they tested export weapons and made the right conclusions.
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 13 October 2020 12: 05
          0
          Quote: MKPU-115
          made the right conclusions

          The most correct conclusion was when the manats were collected and piled from there for 40 years.
          True, then we missed the old rake ...
          1. MKPU-115
            MKPU-115 13 October 2020 12: 14
            -2
            No, well, who should we work out the war of the future with? Test new weapons and equipment? On your territory or what?
            So you really try. bully , do not fall on your face in the mud.
          2. Vladimir_6
            Vladimir_6 13 October 2020 13: 43
            -3
            Quote: A. Privalov
            The most correct conclusion was when the manats were collected and piled from there for 40 years. True, then we missed the old rake ...

            The same can be said about Israel "The most correct conclusion was when they collected the money and piled them for 2000 years. True, then they missed the old rake ...
      3. MKPU-115
        MKPU-115 13 October 2020 12: 02
        -2
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Apparently, not a horse feed.

        It has long been known that there are no warriors among the Arabs. It is for the better, the longer you fight with them, the better we are.
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 13 October 2020 13: 58
          -1
          Quote: MKPU-115
          You are at war with them, so much the better for us.

          I dare not deny the obvious. Five years - normal flight. Continue in the same spirit. We sincerely wish complete and final victory to both sides of the conflict! hi
          1. MKPU-115
            MKPU-115 13 October 2020 14: 35
            -2
            Quote: A. Privalov
            Quote: MKPU-115
            You are at war with them, so much the better for us.

            I dare not deny the obvious. Five years - normal flight. Continue in the same spirit. We sincerely wish complete and final victory to both sides of the conflict! hi

            Yes, dreaming. There will never be a final victory. The United States and Russia will not allow you to do this, they will not allow you. This is a wonderful landfill. Kill each other further, and we will throw firewood with the USA wink into the fire and warm our hands on it.
            No, well, really, the leadership of Russia with Lavrov will express concern hi
            1. A. Privalov
              A. Privalov 13 October 2020 14: 52
              -3
              Quote: MKPU-115
              There will never be a final victory.

              Then you and sit there until the end of the century. For 5 years, 10 billion greens flew away. You are rich. You can afford it. Yes, and the people, judging by the contingent in the VO, are in favor.
              Keep it up!
              A checkbox in the handles and a drum on the neck. hi
      4. VyacheSeymour
        VyacheSeymour 13 October 2020 19: 29
        +1
        Apparently, not a horse feed.

        Shouting about the superiority of your fighting spirit, mathing, preparedness is one thing ... But silently, from day to day, to clean a gun and sharpen a dagger, agree something completely different.
    2. KKND
      KKND 13 October 2020 11: 48
      +8
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Good point.

      You absolutely correctly noticed the meaning of the article, allegedly Armenia was trained according to NATO standards.
      It was I who was inconsiderate. But in reality, what are the standards of NATO in Armenia, which is a member of the CSTO, and where can you read / watch a video about how their NATO instructors train? (Answer-in fantasies)
      But we must write on the forums that it is all NATO standards to blame.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 13 October 2020 12: 14
        +5
        Quote: KKND
        But in reality, what are the standards of NATO in Armenia, which is a member of the CSTO, and where can you read / watch a video about how their NATO instructors train? (Answer-in fantasies)

        laughing
        Remember the sensational murder of an Armenian officer by an Azerbaijani one? Where did it happen? That's right, at the NATO courses in Budapest.
        In general, there is even a "NATO Advisory Group on the Development of Military Education", which visited Armenia for the last time in December last year. With an inspection of the higher educational institutions and with summing up the results of the year.
        So it goes...
        1. Scorpio05
          Scorpio05 13 October 2020 12: 40
          0
          Both of them participated in the English courses. Get to know the topic better, then expose and smite ...
          Quote: Spade
          Both of them participated in the English courses. Get to know the topic better, then expose and smite ...

          Both of them took part in English courses then. Get to know the topic better, then expose and smite ...
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 13 October 2020 13: 29
            +4
            Quote: Scorpio05
            Both of them took part in English courses then.

            Yes of course.
            Everyone knows that learning English is the main task of NATO
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 13 October 2020 12: 18
        +4
        Quote: KKND
        The answer is in fantasies

        January 31, 2020

        Armenian-American military cooperation is actively developing, said Laura Cooper, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia, during a speech at the Armenian Embassy in Washington on the occasion of the Armenian Army Day: “The actively developing cooperation between our Armed Forces is truly inspiring. It is a great honor for us to host students from Armenia, providing them with military education. This year we also plan to develop cooperation with the National Defense Research University of the Ministry of Defense of Armenia, as well as continue training the current and future leaders of the Armenian Armed Forces. "
        https://www.aravot-ru.am/2020/01/31/320855/
        1. KKND
          KKND 13 October 2020 12: 21
          +4
          Hey Lopatov, hello! That NATO trainers managed to spoil the Soviet military education of the Armenian military in 1 year? recourse
          How powerful these Americans are. So many years of preparation down the drain. crying
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 13 October 2020 12: 27
            +6
            Quote: KKND
            managed in 1 year

            ?
            I'm afraid it hasn't been a year there, there has been active work since the collapse of the USSR.

            Quote: KKND
            How powerful these Americans are. So many years of preparation down the drain.

            It’s not Americans, it’s its own hat. Well, the usual for Armenians "Russia should"
            1. KKND
              KKND 13 October 2020 12: 37
              +5
              Quote: Spade
              It’s not Americans, it’s its own hat. Well, the usual for Armenians "Russia should"

              Well, thanks for the link, I did not think that they started their tentacles so seriously.
              Well, about the shapkozakidatelstvo preparing this of course well, but if the financial resources are 5 times less, then it is not very clear how it will overcome. The Armenians did not hold on badly, in 2016 they even fought back, but there is no reception against the scrap, if there is no other scrap. All that remains is to hope for Russia, the United States, a miracle, etc.
              Maybe after 2016, anticipating the approaching northern animal, they decided to go to the Americans, but of course, where you climb on the Americans, you will get off there.
              And we don't want to solve other people's problems, the venue for the Caucasus-2020, in my opinion, showed this.
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          2. ZEMCH
            ZEMCH 13 October 2020 14: 07
            +1
            Any system, even built over the years, breaks down completely in 3 months. In 21 days, habits are formed and any skills are brought to automatism
            1. KKND
              KKND 13 October 2020 15: 06
              +1
              Well, just any system breaks down in 3 months, regardless of complexity or type. And in exactly 21 days you can bring any skills to automatism, probably in 21 days any person can bring the piloting of the most complex fighter to automatism, after theory or even more complex skills to automatism. Freud approves.
              1. ZEMCH
                ZEMCH 13 October 2020 15: 16
                +1
                Quote: KKND
                Well, any system breaks down in 3 months

                Any in which a person participates.
                Quote: KKND
                Well, just any system breaks down in 3 months, regardless of complexity or type. And in exactly 21 days you can bring any skills to automatism, probably in 21 days any person can bring the piloting of the most complex fighter to automatism, after theory or even more complex skills to automatism. Freud approves.

                Aerobatics is a skill set. But extinguishing a fire on a power supply unit can be brought to automatism in 21 days by training with complications of the situation
                1. KKND
                  KKND 13 October 2020 15: 59
                  +2
                  Quote: ZEMCH
                  Any in which a person participates.

                  Well, you just answer like a soldier. Apparently you are the authority, for you, said it some sort. For example, stop the system of state education for a year, and in a year it will work again without any problems, and other systems of the state in which people participate. They have multi-level defense systems developed over the centuries so that they can be broken in 3 months.
                  Quote: ZEMCH
                  Aerobatics is a skill set. But extinguishing a fire on a power supply unit can be brought to automatism in 21 days by training with complications of the situation

                  I did not put out fires in any way, but in a computer simulator I saw modern aircraft with fully interactive cockpits. To memorize the sequence of switching toggle switches with a mouse in the K-50 cockpit without a manual in front of people's eyes, it took people 2-4 days only to get off the ground, and in a fleeting air battle, say on the F-15C to click the toggle switches while operating the radar while looking at the SPO and building a plan and strategy of maneuver in my head, I do not know how long it takes to train, and this is without overloading at home. I personally only more or less mastered the theory, it was too stressful for me to train.
                  But you can believe in your dogmas, I am uploading this offtopic.
    3. Hypertension
      Hypertension 13 October 2020 11: 50
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      How the Georgians were proud of NATO training, American equipment, that the roof moved down from external attributes and considered themselves the strongest in the region.

      Cargo cult in all its glory.
    4. genisis
      genisis 13 October 2020 12: 00
      0
      And the author of the article is clearly an expert)
      And here is an interview with the Armenian Defense Ministry. And this level of analytics is now quite common not only in the Polish press.
      “We have a Russian military school. Our cadres study there, our leadership is Soviet cadres. The armament is 95–96% Soviet and Russian. Over the past two years, we have brought the most modern weapons from Russia.

      As a military expert, I will tell you this: the fight against UAVs is a headache all over the world. But nowhere and never has anyone fought drones as successfully as the Armenian army. We sometimes shot down 16 drones in a day. And they shot down with Soviet weapons. We do not have dozens of TORs, Shells or S-400s. There are Soviet weapons and talented soldiers who hold them in their hands. "
      Artsrun Hovhannisyan
      Full version of the interview here
      https://riafan.ru/1318969-arcrun-podtverzhdaet-intervyu-fan-s-oficialnym-predstavitelem-mo-armenii
  4. Tuzik
    Tuzik 13 October 2020 11: 35
    +3
    waiting for the Baltic states to do their analysis
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 13 October 2020 11: 42
      10
      laughing It is too early. We must wait.
  5. vch62388
    vch62388 13 October 2020 11: 52
    +3
    "The number of mobilized reservists in Azerbaijan exceeds 300 thousand, in Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh - 210 thousand."
    Does the Polish expert believe that both sides have already used their entire 1st stage reserve? Have you approximately tripled the number of personnel? Did you use it to make up for losses or to form new units?
    No seriously? THREE thousand Azerbaijanis and TWO thousand Armenians. Paulus at Stalingrad before the Soviet offensive had less than 300 thousand. What is there for the massacre ...
  6. Vdi73
    Vdi73 13 October 2020 13: 06
    0
    Poland, has become a great analyst in the post-Soviet space? It’s more painful for her, so that you don’t stick your beak in, otherwise there will be no such state again. Hyenas "Churchill" and he was right, although an enemy.
  7. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 13 October 2020 13: 08
    +4
    Quote: genisis
    And the author of the article is clearly an expert)
    And here is an interview with the Armenian Defense Ministry. And this level of analytics is now quite common not only in the Polish press.
    “We have a Russian military school. Our cadres study there, our leadership is Soviet cadres. The armament is 95–96% Soviet and Russian. Over the past two years, we have brought the most modern weapons from Russia.

    As a military expert, I will tell you this: the fight against UAVs is a headache all over the world. But nowhere and never has anyone fought drones as successfully as the Armenian army. We sometimes shot down 16 drones in a day. And they shot down with Soviet weapons. We do not have dozens of TORs, Shells or S-400s. There are Soviet weapons and talented soldiers who hold them in their hands. "
    Artsrun Hovhannisyan
    Full version of the interview here
    https://riafan.ru/1318969-arcrun-podtverzhdaet-intervyu-fan-s-oficialnym-predstavitelem-mo-armenii

    Well, yes, of course, we believe you. According to the reports of your Armenian Defense Ministry, you shot down the entire stock of drones around the world))
    1. genisis
      genisis 13 October 2020 16: 34
      -1
      You'd better trust Aliyev. Better yet, go to Hadrut, because according to Aliyev, Hadrut has been under the control of Azerbaijan since October 9))
      1. Scorpio05
        Scorpio05 13 October 2020 18: 06
        0
        Yes, even Genesis Jan, I see you are worried, dear, look at you were calm:
        Hadrut is released! Flag of Azerbaijan was hoisted in the center of the village - NEW SHOTS - VIDEO
        POLITICS, 13 October 2020 18:09

        https://news.day.az/politics/1279365.html
        1. genisis
          genisis 13 October 2020 18: 41
          -1
          Only bad luck. This is not Hadrut, this is the Togasher village west of Hadrut.
          1. wmn5500
            wmn5500 13 October 2020 18: 53
            +1
            David, if to the west of Hadrut, then the Azerbaijani army leaves behind Hadrut! After all, they were advancing from the east!
            1. genisis
              genisis 13 October 2020 19: 16
              +1
              Isn't the Azerbaijani army in Stepanakert yet?
              What's your leader talking about?
              1. wmn5500
                wmn5500 13 October 2020 19: 52
                0
                You know David very well that personally I never listen to what they broadcast to me! But seriously, there was never a talk about Stepanakert.
  8. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 13 October 2020 13: 40
    -1
    Quote: Spade
    Quote: Scorpio05
    Both of them took part in English courses then.

    Yes of course.
    Everyone knows that learning English is the main task of NATO

    We are talking about facts, not about your assumptions or someone else's fantasies.
  9. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 13 October 2020 14: 54
    -1
    I will not stop admiring the wisdom of the old Armenian.
    When the old Armenian was dying, he called his sons to him and said:
    - My children, take care of the Jews!
    - But why, father?
    - They will finish with them - they will take us ...


    Armenians are great guys. Only they did not listen well to their father.
    1. KKND
      KKND 13 October 2020 16: 11
      0
      Eee Privalov why did you over-Jewish this time with an anecdote. The fact is that Azerbaijan bought a huge amount of modern weapons from Israel and is now killing Armenians with it. And seeing the effectiveness of your (Israeli) drones, the Azerbaijanis are very grateful to you (the Jews), I even saw a comment on YouTube, like come to us (Azerbaijanis), you will be at home with us. Of course, anyone could write such a thing, but everything seems to be logical. But what the old Armenian will say to his sons now on his deathbed without a clue.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 13 October 2020 16: 28
        -1
        Quote: KKND
        Eee Privalov why did you over-Jewish this time with an anecdote. The fact is that Azerbaijan bought a huge amount of modern weapons from Israel and is now killing Armenians with it. And seeing the effectiveness of your (Israeli) drones, the Azerbaijanis are very grateful to you (the Jews), I even saw a comment on YouTube, like come to us (Azerbaijanis), you will be at home with us. Of course, anyone could write such a thing, but everything seems to be logical. But what the old Armenian will say to his sons now on his deathbed without a clue.

        Is this after the USSR, and then the Russian Federation of the last 60 years, has driven the Arabs to our region of weapons worth billions and billions of greens, instructors and advisers who themselves sat at the controls of aircraft and in the seats of missile gunners? Whose tanks and aircraft did Egypt, Syria, etc. fight on? Is it you who will now shed tears of crocodiles and reproach Israel, they say, Azerbaijanis fired at the poor Armenians? Could you name the number of arms purchases by Azerbaijan from the Russian Federation?

        To vskidku:
        Russia has fulfilled the contract for the supply of a large consignment of military equipment to Azerbaijan. As you know, in July 2013, 94 T-90S tanks, 100 BMP-3 tanks, 18 Msta-S self-propelled artillery mounts, 18 Smerch multiple launch rocket launchers, 18 Vienna self-propelled artillery units were delivered to Azerbaijan in July 6 "And 1 heavy flamethrower systems TOS-1A" Solntsepek ", as well as several pieces of engineering equipment. The contract amount was $ XNUMX billion.

        Earlier, Russia sold Azerbaijan the S-300 PMU-2 (Favorit) anti-aircraft missile systems, which were originally intended for Iran. However, in connection with the decree of Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, who succumbed to pressure from the West and Israel, the contract with Iran was canceled. However, in order not to let down the manufacturer of the S-300 systems, the Almaz-Antey air defense concern, it was decided to sell the already produced systems to Azerbaijan. Deliveries began in July 2010 and ended in 2011. The set of supplies included 2 C-300 PMU-2 divisions with 8 launchers in each division, as well as 200 48N6E2 anti-aircraft guided missiles. The amount of the contract was, according to some sources, $ 300 million.


        A question to the Deputy Director of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies (Russia), captain of the second rank in reserve Maxim Shepovalenko:
        - What, in your opinion, are the prospects for military-technical cooperation (MTC) between Azerbaijan and Russia in 2020?

        - It is difficult to say which weapons systems can become the subject of Russian-Azerbaijani cooperation in 2020 due to the closed nature of this topic. One thing can be stated with a high degree of certainty - the bilateral military-technical cooperation has a large reserve in terms of funding for the future.

        As follows from the statement made by President Ilham Aliyev in October last year in Sochi, Russia has yet to supply Azerbaijan with contracted weapons, military and special equipment worth about $ 2 billion.

        So, my dear, there is no need to blame a sick head on a healthy one. hi
        1. KKND
          KKND 13 October 2020 17: 00
          +2
          We have always supplied weapons to both Armenians and Azerbaijanis. We have our own troubles.
          Your anecdote specifically about the Armenians and Jews was. And you started to transfer arrows to us. Transfer from a sick head to a sick one.
          But now how the Armenians will treat the Israelis, I wrote that I do not know.
          You yourself know how the enemy's allies are often treated, but diplomacy is a difficult thing.
          I just noticed that the anecdote sounds strange in such a situation.
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 13 October 2020 17: 11
            +2
            Quote: KKND
            how will the Armenians treat the Israelis now?

            Until recently, there was not even an Armenian embassy in Israel. They recently opened it and immediately recalled their ambassador. Somehow we lived without them for so many years, we will live for more. Many countries sell weapons to other countries. We will survive the Armenian claims somehow. The Jews were not accused of such sins. "We swam, we know ..." (c).
      2. bobwings
        bobwings 13 October 2020 18: 59
        +3
        Yes, we are Jews, and before this war, visiting Azerbaijanis felt at home, we were always friends with them ... What can not be said about Armenia.
        In Baku, if there was minimal anti-Semitism, it was most often from the local Armenians ...
  10. vladcub
    vladcub 13 October 2020 15: 25
    +1
    "The Armenian side owes its failures to the training system that has been curling for it lately according to NATO standards" 1)
    1) the phrase is constructed somehow in an idiotic way: "which is for her"
    It turns out like this: the Armenians ordered training according to NATO standards to a neighbor or godfather, who knows for them, and the executor screwed up. It would be smarter to write: "which was recently conducted in the Armed Forces of Armenia."
    2) Azerbaijan copied its army from the Turkish, and Turkey copied the articles in the NATO bloc. It turns out some kind of nonsense: Azerbaijan copied the army of the NATO standard and the Armenian Armed Forces are prepared according to NATO standards. Does Azerbaijan have training, but Armenians don't?
    I think there is something else: 1) the numerical advantage is noticeable, and that means a lot.
    2) _Azerbaijan did not skimp on modern weapons
    3) Azerbaijan has a psychological motivation: to visit the Armenians. Here are the 3 syllables
    1. iouris
      iouris 13 October 2020 15: 46
      -1
      The Turkish army cannot be "copied" into the Azerbaijani army. Aliyev bought a lot of UAVs and it turned out to be quite effective. But in order to achieve success, I think it was necessary to buy even more, to get into debt. And the Prime Minister of Armenia, it seems, is not very concerned about the problems of the military (or, maybe, there is no money). He has a different plan. In theory, the war should lead to the fall of the regimes. And every next ruler, as you know, will be worse than the previous one.
  11. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 13 October 2020 17: 10
    0
    Poles, of course, yes, noble warriors)))) Sorry, I forgot - how many times Poland was divided by 3 or 4? or the fourth will be soon?
  12. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 13 October 2020 17: 23
    +1
    Quote: genisis
    You'd better trust Aliyev. Better yet, go to Hadrut, because according to Aliyev, Hadrut has been under the control of Azerbaijan since October 9))

    I trust our president.
    You say Gadrut. Accidentally not this one?))
    https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/5573800.html
  13. deniso
    deniso 13 October 2020 20: 07
    0
    The landlocked nation gave birth to Admiral Isakov. The village of Chardakhli is generally unique in the world, there are two Marshals at once - Baghramyan and Babadzhanyan. Such people cannot be defeated.
    1. Pshelts
      Pshelts 13 October 2020 20: 17
      -2
      Quote: denis obuckov
      The landlocked nation gave birth to Admiral Isakov. The village of Chardakhli is generally unique in the world, there are two Marshals at once - Baghramyan and Babadzhanyan. Such people cannot be defeated.

      I agree, the heroic people, Russia is not in vain supporting Armenia from the enemies of its history (Ancient Orthodox churches, etc.) .. She pays us with her talented sons in various fields of activity .. One Mikoyan is worth something, etc.
      I hope and in principle I am sure that everything will work out hi

      This video is old, but the most interesting is at the end of the footage ..
      Peace to ALL!
    2. iouris
      iouris 13 October 2020 21: 05
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      Quote: denis obuckov
      The landlocked nation gave birth to Admiral Isakov.

      Armenia had access to the sea when it was part of the empire and the USSR. Therefore, Armenians and Azerbaijanis, as well as Kazakhs, Lithuanians, Latvians, etc. and even the Russians could have access to science, the ocean, aviation, space, the Arctic and Antarctic ...
  14. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 14 October 2020 19: 36
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    The Armenian side owes its failures to the training system that has been conducted for it recently according to NATO standards

    The rodents also learned "according to NATO standards." And what - did it help them in August 2008?