The Prime Minister of Ukraine proposed to the President of Poland to expand the "Lublin Triangle" at the expense of Belarus

During a meeting in Kiev, the Prime Minister of Ukraine Denis Shmyhal proposed to the President of the Republic of Poland Andrzej Duda to expand the format of the Lublin Triangle platform, created at the initiative of Ukraine and including, in addition, Poland and Lithuania.

It is reported that before the start of the current protests in Belarus, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba held a telephone conversation with Belarusian Foreign Minister Vladimir Makei and invited him as an honored guest to a meeting of the foreign ministers of Ukraine, Lithuania and Poland. At the meeting between Shmygal and Duda, they discussed a possible summit of the heads of the three countries of the "Lublin Triangle", where, apparently, it is supposed to discuss the issue of the development of the current format and its expansion at the expense of Belarus.

It is also reported that Shmygal expressed gratitude to Duda for his support in the process of involving Ukraine in the Trimorie project and said about his country's interest in joining cooperation within the framework of this initiative, actively promoted and supported by the United States.

In addition, at the meeting, they discussed the development of transport infrastructure, in particular, the implementation of the "Via Carpathia" project.

Shmygal said that the government of Ukraine considers the construction of concession roads in the format of the President's project "Big Construction" as one of the priorities in its work. In addition, according to Shmygal, Ukraine considers it important to develop a joint transit potential, namely to increase the quota for Ukrainian carriers. He expressed confidence that from next year Ukraine will be able to "jointly implement the first such project - the extension of the A4 highway to the territory of Ukraine."

Shmyhal noted that "the Ukrainian-Polish intergovernmental commission can become a platform for processing these issues and developing common potential."

So far, nothing is known about the reaction of the official Minsk to this proposal of Kiev.

The Lublin Triangle is a trilateral platform consisting of Ukraine, Poland and Lithuania for political, economic and social cooperation between them, which provides for regular meetings of the foreign ministers of these countries.

Trimorie is an initiative of states located between three seas - the Black, Baltic and Adriatic - with the aim of strengthening infrastructural ties between the countries of the region in the interests of improving economic cooperation, attracting investment, positioned as a purely pro-European project.

Comments

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

The main nobleman and leader of the former slaves. History repeats itself

[Slon_on]

Looks like Shmygal's dupa became overbearing, yearned for the master's bizuns. With "mi nor rabbi", natural, nothing can be done about it.

[Labrador]

Want to take Tikhanovskaya into their dirty triangle?

[Pereira]

Well, not Lukashenka!

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Provocative news. But who is the provocateur is not yet clear.

[orionvitt]

What is the provocation? A common statement, in the spirit of Ukraine. Here are just ukropolitiki, for some reason they first impose sanctions on Belarus, and then offer to join. What they think and where the mind is is not clear. However, it is clear that he is not there.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

And you read it CAREFULLY. And use your mind.

[Tatyana]

The Prime Minister of Ukraine proposed to the President of Poland to expand the "Lublin Triangle" at the expense of Belarus

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

Provocative news. But who is the provocateur is not yet clear.

Quote: orionvitt

What is the provocation?

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

And you read it CAREFULLY. And use your mind.

Mashkov, do not torment us with your answer - and honestly lay out the truth at once!
Otherwise we will be offended by you that you here think you are the smartest, but you don’t want to prove it to us.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Yes, there are people who sincerely DO NOT understand. And there are those who “do not understand” (or don’t want to “understand.”) I don’t think that you, gentlemen, comrades “generals” with “marshals” are so dull ...

What is the provocation?

"The Prime Minister of Ukraine proposed to the President of Poland to expand the" Lublin Triangle " at the expense of Belarus".
Reasons? Excuse me: "It is reported that before the start of the current protests in Belarus Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Dmitry Kuleba had a telephone conversation with Foreign Minister of the Republic of Belarus Vladimir Makei and invited him as a guest of honor to the meeting of the Ministers of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, Lithuania and Poland. At the meeting between Shmygal and Duda, they discussed a possible summit of the heads of the three countries of the "Lublin Triangle", where, apparently, it is supposed to discuss the development of the current format and its expansion at the expense of Belarus."The conversation was not after protests and to! The message about the inclusion of Belarus is a provocation!

"So far, nothing is known about the reaction of the official Minsk to this proposal of Kiev." I don’t know about you, but to me the reaction of Belarus and Lukashenka is clear: it is ALREADY clearly marked!

But who is the provocateur - no, it's not clear! Is it only Shmygal, who proposed to include Belarus in the "Lublin Triangle"? Or also Sovetkin, who reported this "news" as a doubt about the position of Belarus?

[orionvitt]

You never know what was when what and who offered whom on the phone. The conversation is "about now", not "about then." I understand, "your own wave" is clearer, but you need to jump off it sometimes. And then people are at a loss.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Labrador

Lublin Triangle

"Triangle" and Tikhanovskaya!

Haberdasher and Cardinal!

Will there be a "Lublin Square"? Only in the case of Tikhanovskaya, the territory of Belarus is limited only by Tikhanovskaya itself. And then half - a husband ("the second half") in real Belarus.

[hydrox]

Come on you!
Well, it is impossible to do without a cook in such a matter (and according to pre-revolutionary legends, some other valor of cooks are also known, except for frying cutlets) - this is saving on the apparatus (multi-station and combination!).

[Alex777]

We must call Russia for them. All problems will end immediately.
And there will be Russia from sea to sea.

[hydrox]

We'll break down to feed everyone.
Now, if it were South Korea or Japan, we would have put the entire western aviation industry on the asphalt in 2-3 years, if we had possessed the eastern technological capabilities.

[venik]

Quote: Zoldat_A

"Triangle" and Tikhanovskaya!

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Cardinal and haberdasher (sorry - "haberdasher")? This is power!

[Zoldat_A]

Vladimir, !

Quote: venik

Quote: Zoldat_A

"Triangle" and Tikhanovskaya!

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Cardinal and haberdasher (sorry - "haberdasher")? This is power!

"Triangle" and Tikhanovskaya are not POWER, they are CLOWNADE. "Gee-Gee" behind the scenes is not enough. Nothing, Zelensky will add ...

[venik]

Quote: Zoldat_A

"Triangle" and Tikhanovskaya are not POWER, they are CLOWNADE. laughing "Gee-Gee" behind the scenes is not enough. Nothing, Zelensky will add ..

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Greetings Igor!
It's funny to watch these two clowns "share the skin of an unkilled bear"!
It's like Zhvanetsky: "We got together there in Zapopinsk, discussed and voted to join Japan! Only Japan was against ... But who asks her: we ALREADY voted".

[forester1971]

Instead of the "Lublin Triangle" there will be a "black square".

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Forester1971

Instead of the "Lublin Triangle" there will be a "black square".

So it pulls to mock. They exchanged the St.George ribbon for something incomprehensible, and the symbol of something incomprehensible, painted on the packaging of feminine hygiene items. Well, in this regard,

[hydrox]

IT IS BLACK AND SQUARE ?????? !!!!!!
Looked - it can't be! There is a completely different profile!

[PSih2097]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Only in the case of Tikhanovskaya, the territory of Belarus is limited only by Tikhanovskaya itself.

The Directory is sitting in the car, and under the car is its territory ... (c) Folklore ...

[fruc]

Two muzzled fringes.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

The main nobleman and leader of the former slaves. History repeats itself

A former alcoholic took off -
Swindler and seditious:
“We must drink the triangle!
For three of him! Give me! "
Dispersed - and pours:
“The triangle will be drunk!
Be it a parallelepiped,
Be it a circle, a louse! "

Vladimir Vysotsky
Dear transfer

[Cananecat]

I read one, the Prime Minister and the Minister proposed to expand the LOVE triangle? )))

[Alien From]

This man has become a friend of his head for a long time, nothing new is coming to him.

[Reviews]

And, after all, with such flirting, Vazelin can hold out and even go for a second term ...

[askort154]

Trimorie is an initiative of states located between three seas - the Black, Baltic and Adriatic - with the aim of strengthening infrastructural ties between the countries of the region in order to improve economic cooperation, attracting investments, positioned as a purely pro-European project.

[V1er]

"Trimorye" - an initiative of states

Intermorie (Polish Międzymorze) is a project of a confederative state that would include Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Moldova, Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, and possibly Finland, put forward by Jozef the First Pilsudski after world war. This confederation was supposed to stretch from the Black and Adriatic Seas to the Baltic, hence the name.

Nevertheless, Poland managed to occupy Western Ukraine and Western Belarus by military means, as well as part of Lithuania (see the Soviet-Polish war of 1919-1921). As a result of the Soviet-Polish war of 1939, these territories passed to the Soviet Union.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: V1er

Intermorie (Polish Międzymorze) is a project of a confederative state that would include Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Moldova, Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, and possibly Finland, put forward by Jozef the First Pilsudski after world war.

And Poland, by design, is the smartest and most important here?

Traditionally for Poles - ambition and conceit are 5 meters above the head. As usual, they forget that

... even with a large mouth, you need to bite off small pieces so as not to choke.

If Venus and the Moon with Mars are added there, the Interplanet will turn out. Didn't Pilsudski think about that?

[Vadim_888]

Now Poland is setting the tone in the Visegrad four, and this is an objective reality, how quickly the four will increase its format, no one knows ...

[orionvitt]

Quote: Vadim_888

how quickly the four will increase its format, no one knows ...

It is more likely that it will not increase, but decrease. The overseas owner has big internal problems, and on your own ambition alone, you won't get far.

[Prisoner]

Have you forgotten to ask the father?

[rotmistr60]

"A fisherman sees a fisherman from afar" (Russian proverb), and a Russophobe is a Russophobe even more so. Okay, Poland with the financial assistance of the EU is trying to claim something, but where are these? All the Eastern European scum is gathering and trying to "make friends" against Russia. Are we still stuttering about the partial lifting of counter-sanctions from Ukrainian enterprises? Maybe it's enough to play "friendship of peoples" and act accordingly with the enemy? So far economically and politically.

[Vadim_888]

The problem is that these enemies consume a lot of Russian gas and pay for it in foreign currency, and the Russian domestic market has shrunk to 80 consumers, including potential consumers with very low solvency, plus AvtoVAZ's actual sabotage of the production of cars with gas equipment, plus if everyone switches to gas , then there will be losses from the collection of excise taxes on gasoline ... Sadness, however, and the expansion of foreign markets is not particularly foreseen ...

[V1er]

Poland under the US protectorate is eating more and more territories. Included de facto Ukraine and Lithuania, Belarus also wants and hello to the new Rzeczpospolita. History repeats itself.

[hydrox]

Do not worry, Russia will not allow this, no matter what the zelenkhozs do.

[ZEMCH]

Quote: V1er

History repeats itself.

4 partitions of Poland apparently were not enough, the 5th is needed, it is very obvious.
Over the past 200 years, all major wars have ended with the partition of Poland

[Rubi0]

By the way, in the future, this is not very rosy, in total, in terms of population, this is about 100 million people, and this is no longer a funny figure

[hydrox]

These figures do not convince anyone of anything, since ONLY military power plays a real role. Of course, the confidence of the Foreign Ministry.

[tihonmarine]

At the meeting between Shmygal and Duda, they discussed a possible summit of the heads of the three countries of the Lublin Triangle, where, apparently, it is supposed to discuss the issue of the development of the current format and its expansion at the expense of Belarus.

Something familiar was in 1659, when the Polish king Sigismund August, relying on the support of Polish magnates and gentry, published a universal about the alienation from Lithuania and the annexation of Volhynia and Podlasie to Poland (March 5, 1569).
According to this universal, the local gentry was equal in rights with the Polish one.
Soon, another universal followed - on the annexation of the Kiev and Bratslav regions to Poland, an act was drawn up on the eternal union of both states - Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, which from now on formed one indivisible state - Rzeczpospolita. It happened on June 28, 1569.
And now, 450 years later, the Poles are trying to pull off the same trick.

[Vadim_888]

... Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, which henceforth formed one indivisible state - Rzeczpospolita. It happened on June 28, 1569.
And now, 450 years later, the Poles are trying to pull off the same trick.

Without the consent of the Lithuanians, this is unlikely, but they still have a memory of the "friendly" occupation of Vilno (Vilnius) by the Poles
But in the opinion of the Lithuanians, unification with the Belarusians does not contradict their interests

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

The Prime Minister of Ukraine proposed to the President of Poland to expand the "Lublin Triangle" at the expense of Belarus

the joyful shoemaker ran and shouted that he had received his daughter's consent to marry the duke, it remains to get the duke's consent

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

the joyful shoemaker ran and shouted that he had received his daughter's consent to marry the duke, it remains to get the duke's consent

This is certainly "richer with a thought."

[maktub]

It's a good idea, if everything goes together, it will be a good project

[tihonmarine]

Quote: maktub

if everything grows together it will be a good project

A mixture of a snake with barbed wire.

[maktub]

What is it that "flatters" you all?
You have Evrases, ODKB, we don't say a word

[tihonmarine]

Quote: maktub

What is it that "flatters" you all?
You have Evrases, ODKB, we don't say a word

Doesn't it flatten you? Have you already gathered in the Rzeczpospolita?

[maktub]

So we didn’t seem to ask either to Evrases or to the ODKB, why should we be flattered?
To the "Union of Lublin"

[tihonmarine]

Quote: maktub

To the "Union of Lublin"

Well, let's join, forward and with songs, the flag is in your hands.

[maktub]

Ministerial consultations

[APASUS]

Invite Tikhanovskaya to your "Lublin Parallelepiped" and don't forget for one Guaido! You will decide the fate of the world in your get-together

[maktub]

Tikhanovskaya, or rather the future president of the Republic of Belarus, who will be after her, we will definitely invite.
Guaido - no need, geographically far away

[APASUS]

Quote: maktub

Tikhanovskaya, or rather the future president of the Republic of Belarus, who will be after her, we will definitely invite.

It seems that Tikhanovskaya was recognized by the EU, but you did not recognize, how is that?

Quote: maktub

Guaido - no need, geographically far away

Well, why, your man, will also be a singer!

[maktub]

Luka is also not called Mr. President
Let Guaido stay on his continent, as a possible replacement for Maduro, what happens suddenly

[APASUS]

Quote: maktub

Let Guaido stay on his continent, as a possible replacement for Maduro, what happens suddenly

So your whole essence has crawled out!
You do not need elections, all hope that Uncle Sam will stir up another coup

[maktub]

In these countries, and you also have the possibility of fair elections,
?
Elections without choice

[APASUS]

Quote: maktub

In these countries, and you also have the possibility of fair elections,
?
Elections without choice

Oh yes, election integrity is a good topic!
Can you prove in court that Lukashenka attributed the votes to himself, do you have any real information? Because the prosecution is brought to court, and here the EU recognizes the elections as invalid and declares Tikhanovskaya as president (although they did not send their observers, they simply refused). What kind of body is this (whether to recognize the results of elections in the country or not) and such powers (from where come from, who endowed?).
If you are trying to obey the laws, then go to the last comma !! And then some of the illegal actions are quite suitable for you !!!

[maktub]

Well, what are you, as a small, free elections mean not only international observers, but also the right of candidates to have their representatives at polling stations, in election commissions of different levels, equal access to the media, protocols must be signed by all commission members and observers from candidates, vote counting in the presence again, observers, etc.

[APASUS]

Quote: maktub

Well, what are you, as a small, free elections mean not only international observers, but also the right of candidates to have their representatives at polling stations, in election commissions of different levels

Well yes ? Try observing an American election or helping an electoral commission count the votes. You will be immediately arrested and the term will be real and very long! How many observers in the United States sign protocols?

[maktub]

Don't Confuse International Observers and Candidate Observers

[APASUS]

Quote: maktub

Don't Confuse International Observers and Candidate Observers

What does this change in essence? The electors vote for the president, not the people! And in the history of the United States there were 2 cases when the electors chose the wrong candidate that the majority chose and what kind of democracy is there?

[maktub]

And the commissions themselves consist of members loyal to the authorities or the commissions still consist of "members of different parties"
The American electoral system is one of the most complex, but for some reason no one ever said that the elections were not democratic.

[APASUS]

Quote: maktub

The American electoral system is one of the most complex, but for some reason no one ever said that the elections were not democratic.

Have you ever read about "Arizona lawlessness"? When, having processed only 1% of the votes in the primaries, Hillary Clinton was declared the winner. And you say democracy !! On the website of the White House there was a petition that received 50 thousand votes in order to understand the violation of the rights of voters, AND THEN SUDDENLY:404 Page Not Found
What actually changes, even calling the US elections non-democratic? They only look after everyone, they themselves behave like barbarians:

Vladimir Putin, speaking at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum, questioned the democratic nature of the US presidential election.

[maktub]

No need to twist how the inner-party primaries became presidential elections
You have the same propaganda

[APASUS]

Quote: maktub

No need to twist how the inner-party primaries became presidential elections

1 This is part of the election!
2 As I understand it, your laws for the primaries should be canceled?

Quote: maktub

You have the same propaganda

I gave you a specific example and what does propaganda have to do with it. Can you prove that this is a lie?

[maktub]

One law for all is the cornerstone of democracy, and there must have been a reaction to the petition
Confused by your leader's quote where he is about the elections, and you about the primaries

[APASUS]

Quote: maktub

One law for all is the cornerstone of democracy,

Then there is no reason for the appointment of Tikhanovskaya, Guaido and others.

Quote: maktub

and there must have been a reaction to the petition

So it's easy to check, give a link? Https: //petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/do-revote-arizona-primary-due-voter-suppression

Quote: maktub

Confused by your leader's quote where he is about the elections, and you about the primaries

First of all, I'm talking about legality, laws should not apply to the primaries? ”And Pitin continued his speech:

Vladimir Putin, speaking at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum, questioned the democratic nature of the US presidential election.

“They teach everyone how to live and teach democracy, but do you think there are democratic presidential elections? “Twice in the history of the United States, a person has been elected president by a majority of electoral votes, behind which there were fewer voters,” Putin said.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: maktub

In these countries, and you also have the possibility of fair elections,
?

Interestingly, in which country did you see "fair elections"?

[maktub]

Honestly? I never got over the "hillock" during the elections
We, the presidential elections, had relatively fair elections. Avakov and a large number of voters who had not voted before played a big role. Poroshenko's authorities could not "level" the influx of voters. So the elections were fair

[tihonmarine]

Quote: maktub

We, the presidential elections, had relatively fair elections. Avakov and a large number of voters who had not voted before played an important role.

I believe! But as soon as it is possible for all the people and honestly to choose a clown who "is not fish or meat."

[maktub]

We will give the assessment at the end of the cadence
At least we have a choice, you only have "zeroing"

[tihonmarine]

Quote: maktub

We will give the assessment at the end of the cadence
At least we have a choice, you only have "zeroing"

Sorry, but I'm not from where zeroing is, I live on the side, but we look at your "circus" with pleasure.

[maktub]

I am glad that you like!

[APASUS]

Quote: maktub

We, the presidential elections, had relatively fair elections. Avakov and a large number of voters who had not voted before played a big role. Poroshenko's authorities could not "level" the influx of voters. So the elections were fair

This is news, fair elections in Ukraine !!! Also tell us about fair trials, we will laugh together

[maktub]

Do you question the results of the presidential elections in Ukraine?
Problems with the honesty of the courts, I agree with this

[APASUS]

Quote: maktub

Do you question the results of the presidential elections in Ukraine?

Who exactly? Zelensky, he didn't win, but Poroshenko lost! In that position (which was created by the thief Poroshenko), even Rotaru, Skrypka, Vakarchuk would have won, with a score of 98%.
And I don't remember fair elections in Ukraine at all, starting with Yushchenko.

[maktub]

A play on words!
The result is on the face.
The connection is over.

[APASUS]

Quote: maktub

A play on words!
The result is on the face.
The connection is over.

I am glad that they did not justify Poroshenko, otherwise it would not even be sad, but funny

[maktub]

I have said more than once that Poroshenko is not at all my idol and

[APASUS]

Quote: maktub

I have said more than once that Poroshenko is not at all my idol and

And who is your idol, if not a secret of course?

[maktub]

I am critical and loyal to Ze, Razumkov and a little kindly to Muravyov

[APASUS]

Quote: maktub

Critically loyal to Ze

What is the reason for such unlimited trust? After all, so far the successes are very modest, but it was promised

[maktub]

As Vaikule sang: - it's not over yet.
And trust, probably, from the fact that he is not a systemic politician.
We are adults and we understand that some things are not done in a day.

[APASUS]

Quote: maktub

As Vaikule sang: - it's not over yet.
And trust, probably, from the fact that he is not a systemic politician.
We are adults and we understand that some things are not done in a day.

As it is not serious, the argument is weak. It's just that there is no vector in which it will hit, along which it will move systematically. This is what confuses, first of all, he often acts as a weather vane Poroshenko, and this figure is still that pots

[maktub]

Let's be objective. He came to power "accidentally", in the course of the electoral revolution, without a big team. he still has not been able to fully gain control over it. Plus agreements and "agreements" that Poroshenko concluded. We have to act in their paradigm.
But I see he learns quickly and becomes a politician, which inspires restrained optimism.

[bald]

In fact, no one knows what to do. Some sketches, discussions, agreements. It is necessary to execute politicians, not the people sent by them to slaughter.

[7,62x54]

The name "Tremor" is more suitable for the project.
At any mention of Russia, the accomplices are shaking.

[iouris]

Yeah. We will build conservatories! (We will twist canned food).

[Light]

Without Belarus, the Russophobic belt around the west of Russia does not develop, the guys have broken off.

[Arthur 85]

I read: "love triangle." I thought a lot about how they organize the relationship, and whether the gigimon would be called to fix communications.

[Kerensky]

providing for regular meetings of the foreign ministers of these countries.

That's all there is to know about this platform. Why did you jump up?

[Assyrian]

Shit at the fence of Russia, that's the whole point of "triangles" and the rest of the six-pointed stars.
As a pack of dogs drives a beast, these ovals act in the same way, under the guidance of a hunter.
Once the nerves of the beast will surrender and he will either run or engage in battle. It is very difficult for one against the crowd.

[georggy]

And as Taras Bulba told his son at N.V. Gogol?

[Dart]

It sounds like a gang of chieftains, in the Russian way, by surnames, like chasers .. Shmygal, Duda and Kuleba huddled on the arrow to crackle cleanly .. ugh.