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"There is no evidence of use against Armenia": the Israeli court rejected the motion to ban the supply of weapons to Azerbaijan

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"There is no evidence of use against Armenia": the Israeli court rejected the motion to ban the supply of weapons to Azerbaijan

The high court of Israel made a decision to reject a petition in which the authorities were required to ban the supply of weapons to Azerbaijan. The reason was the lack of evidence of its use in the course of committing "war crimes against Armenia".


This is reported by the Israeli press.

Human rights lawyer Itai Mak said he is urging the country's authorities to stop the sale weapons Baku for moral reasons, but believes that there are not sufficient grounds for filing a petition about this in court. Mack did not go to court, but activist Eli Joseph did, who also went on a hunger strike.

As evidence, he provided news reports that 60 percent of weapons come to Azerbaijan from Israel, and also showed evidence of the delivery of Israeli weapons by air to Baku a few days before the aggravation of the Karabakh conflict. This includes drones. Joseph also presented in court the data of the international humanitarian organization Amnesty International that Israeli attack drones were used against Armenia and Armenians.

The judge did not find sufficient evidence that these weapons actually participated in combat operations. In an extreme case, the documents presented only prove the fact that Israel has supplied weapons to Baku, which could have been purchased for defense purposes and stored, for example, in a warehouse or in reserve. The judge also demanded from the plaintiff to reimburse legal costs and noted that the claim was filed "prematurely and without sufficient consideration."
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 13 October 2020 09: 30
    20
    "There is no evidence of use against Armenia": the Israeli court rejected the motion to ban the supply of weapons to Azerbaijan
    This is how, in diplomatic language, it sounds like a letter in three funny letters. Who prevents Armenians from buying weapons there? That Soros does not provide a grant for this case? Soros allocates anti-Russian courses, and the Armenians conduct them. Let them ask for weapons.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 13 October 2020 09: 36
      -3
      The reason was the lack of evidence of its use in the course of committing "war crimes against Armenia".

      It is not entirely clear what we are talking about - the use as such or the use of peaceful objects. Khvropy, judging by the video provided by the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, were used. But, judging by the personnel, against air defense, armored vehicles, artillery and soldiers of the Armed Forces of Armenia / NKR.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 13 October 2020 09: 38
        +8
        Quote: Krasnodar
        The reason was the lack of evidence of its use in the course of committing "war crimes against Armenia".

        It is not entirely clear what we are talking about - the use as such or the use of peaceful objects. Khvropy, judging by the video provided by the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, were used. But, judging by the personnel, against air defense, armored vehicles, artillery and soldiers of the Armed Forces of Armenia / NKR.

        Along the very territory of Armenia, Azerbaijan prudently does not hammer on it, at least Israeli.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 13 October 2020 09: 41
          -1
          Then everything is logical hi
        2. genisis
          genisis 13 October 2020 10: 08
          +4
          The day before yesterday two barmaley were liquidated in Dagestan, today the third in Chechnya. Since the beginning of the aggravation in Artsakh, Turkey has already become noticeably closer and dearer.
          Although, we are not Kiselevs, we know for sure that this is just a coincidence.
          1. Vol4ara
            Vol4ara 13 October 2020 10: 44
            +4
            Quote: genisis
            The day before yesterday two barmaley were liquidated in Dagestan, today the third in Chechnya. Since the beginning of the aggravation in Artsakh, Turkey has already become noticeably closer and dearer.
            Although, we are not Kiselevs, we know for sure that this is just a coincidence.

            Well, before the war in Karabakh, they themselves could not come to Dagestan, a closed territory, from Turkey they just could not get there, but here such luck!
            1. genisis
              genisis 13 October 2020 10: 48
              -1
              Well, before the war in Artsakh, you heard a day later that another barmaley had been liquidated in the North Caucasus. And we, excuse me, managed to get out of the habit.
              1. Vol4ara
                Vol4ara 13 October 2020 10: 51
                +6
                Quote: genisis
                Well, before the war in Artsakh, you heard a day later that another barmaley had been liquidated in the North Caucasus. And we, excuse me, managed to get out of the habit.

                So read the news, I forbid you. Resonance is only in the deaths of security officials. And special operations there are routine.
                Are the criminals known? That's when they are published and it turns out that these are immigrants from Syria, then you will start a barrel organ, but so far in the Caucasus, we have enough of our own shit even without Syria (terrorists)
                1. genisis
                  genisis 13 October 2020 11: 43
                  +1
                  Read the NAC reports. In the summer, terrorist attacks were suppressed in Khabarovsk, Altai, Crimea, Astrakhan. In August, there were three bandits in Ingushetia. It was quiet in Chechnya almost from the beginning of the year. There are two special operations here with a difference per day. The personalities of the Barmaley are known, they are not Syrians. Only this does not in any way indicate the lack of activity of MIT in the North Caucasus.
          2. Dikson
            Dikson 13 October 2020 10: 44
            +1
            They write in Grozny roofing felts 2, roofing felts 4 neutralized .. and three employees died ..
            1. genisis
              genisis 13 October 2020 10: 48
              +2
              In Grozny, 3 barmaley were liquidated. During the assault, the 3rd National Guard was killed.
          3. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 14 October 2020 08: 55
            -1
            Turkey has nothing to do with it ..... no one forced the Russian Federation to start the war in Chechnya, not to withdraw Chechnya from the Russian Federation, to do an offshore there, or to trade weapons from the ZGV from there, or send KAMAZ trucks there with cash via Aviso, or .. ..storm, in the end, Grozny the way they stormed it.
      2. Nazar
        Nazar 13 October 2020 13: 00
        +3
        Krasnodar - I understood it this way - NKR is not Armenia (legally) and the use of these weapons against Armenia has not been proven.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 13 October 2020 13: 16
          0
          Absolutely.
      3. Pshelts
        Pshelts 13 October 2020 19: 49
        0
        Quote: Krasnodar
        It is not entirely clear what we are talking about - the use as such or the use of peaceful objects. Khvropy, judging by the video provided by the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, were used. But, judging by the personnel, against air defense, armored vehicles, artillery and soldiers of the Armed Forces of Armenia / NKR.

        Nicely smeared ... Nothing is clear, but it's better not to argue hi
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 13 October 2020 19: 55
          -1
          Who is resurrected? hi from whom you got rid of something, hehe? laughing Well, in order to understand, it was necessary to serve in the army, and not to make a military department at the Institute of Cutting and Sewing, specializing in "Dyeing lawn grass in the garrisons of the Arctic" soldier
    2. Alesi13
      Alesi13 13 October 2020 09: 38
      +4
      I agree, it would not hurt to learn from ours, otherwise the amnesty of Inter..but, white helmets, Greenpeace, etc.
    3. Civil
      Civil 13 October 2020 09: 46
      -4
      Israel surprised, of course, with double standards, however, this once again confirms that behind Azerbaijan, of course, stands the United States, which set fire to the southern flank of the CSTO.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 13 October 2020 09: 51
        +4
        What are the double standards? Is the Israeli technique working on the territory of Armenia?
        1. miru mir
          miru mir 13 October 2020 11: 25
          +2
          The Russian is working on the territory of Azerbaijan. coincidence?
      2. Revival
        Revival 13 October 2020 11: 07
        +4
        And where is the judge wrong?
        There are no strikes against Armenia.
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    4. MTN
      MTN 13 October 2020 10: 36
      -3
      Quote: Observer2014
      This is how, in diplomatic language, it sounds like sending in three funny letters.

      By the way, the article is not complete. Here I add the ending.

      The Jerusalem Post writes that the judge also demanded reimbursement of legal costs in the amount of NIS 1500 from Joseph for filing the motion, stating that "it was filed prematurely and without sufficient research."


      laughing lol
    5. Maz
      Maz 13 October 2020 11: 10
      -5
      Azeibarjan bvblo for Jews does not smell like Jewish blood, Armenians are Christians in general, that is, goyim, so everything is legitimate. The hypocrisy of the most peaceful is evident. Then there will be Ukraine with Donbass. And they will also say sho we have nothing to do with it. Only last week a Jew's shop was destroyed in Paris. Yesterday some Arab in London marked the chosen one with a stone, apparently everything is also legitimate. They didn’t sign the contract, they won’t touch the genius? True Aronchik? And today is another anniversary of the lynching of two Israeli soldiers, one of them is Russian-speaking. Maybe it is not necessary to create new reasons for hatred, and not to breed it thus adding weapons to the flame of war? And then everything will be okay? And the video of Israeli cluster munitions on the streets of Stepanakert is certainly not proof ...
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 13 October 2020 11: 14
        -1
        Quote: Maz
        Azeibarjan bvblo for Jews does not smell like Jewish blood, Armenians are Christians in general, that is, goyim, so everything is legitimate. The hypocrisy of the most peaceful is evident. Then there will be Ukraine with Donbass. And they will also say sho we have nothing here. Only last week a Jew's shop was destroyed in Paris. Yesterday some Arab in London marked the chosen one with a stone, apparently everything is also legitimate. They didn’t sign the contract, they won’t touch the genius? Isn't that Aronchik? And today is another anniversary of the lynching of two Israeli soldiers, one of them is Russian-speaking. Maybe there is no need to create new reasons for hatred, and not to breed it in this way? And then everything will be okay?

        And Maz, for twenty years, has been spiteful, but continues to chew on a Jewish cactus.
        1. Maz
          Maz 13 October 2020 11: 46
          +3
          Another bottom has been broken by God-fearing citizens.
          A religious man, Ashdod city councilor, deputy mayor of the city, manager of the Hasidei Arie organization, created lists of dead and nearly dead souls of old Holocaust survivors and wrote down food and hot meals on them.
          In this way he stole millions of shekels and left the old people hungry.
          These are the ones who always stand guard over the haridim and talk about the huge number of charities they run. Starting with Yad Sara and ending apparently with Haside Arye.
          God will forgive. The main thing is to twist the chicken over your head in time.
          https://13news.co.il/item/news/domestic/education-society/chasdei-aryeh-1140652/?fbclid=IwAR0NeF5mboJ7AObayDpDqOdLwz65JJVOtdEAOAYrt_5FBNyuhfZ99Zl2WV4
          Understand this state, Aronchik, it permeated the whole society, you do not need to hate you, you yourself create waves of hatred. If you are your own Jews like that, those after the Holocaust, then what can we say about the Armenians? What kind of creature does one have to be to make money on the old people from the Holocaust? This is today's news. And I'm not surprised. There is no hatred for Jews, there is hatred for the value system that you have created, which allows you to do abominable deeds, formally hiding behind the letters of the law and its absence. No moral cost ..
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 13 October 2020 13: 32
            0
            Quote: Maz
            Another bottom has been broken by God-fearing citizens.
            ...... There is no hatred of Jews, there is hatred of the value system that you have created, which allows you to do abominable deeds, formally hiding behind the letters of the law and its absence. No moral cost ..

            MAZ, when (if) you come to Russia for permanent residence, you will see many similar, and even worse, things that no one here has been surprised at for a long time. But you continue to track them, then such comparisons will be very useful to you, especially regarding the value system and in terms of "moral costs".
            1. Cottodraton
              Cottodraton 14 October 2020 04: 04
              0
              Omg, again the rf is worse))), but we live in it at the same time, oddly enough ... that's what kind of people you are ... (
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 14 October 2020 04: 09
                0
                RF is better))
                The weather, the woman is more beautiful, the big financial opportunities. But in terms of fraudulent schemes - Israel still has to learn and learn. Because here the country is at the beginning of the formation of capitalism, at a stage that most Western states have already passed. Actually, this is the reason, apart from family circumstances, why I am here and MAZ is there. laughing
        2. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 13 October 2020 12: 04
          -1
          Has the right, you even have your own Jewish Nazis say they got started, and nothing like that. Like everything is fine ... Yes, and you are banging your gums with Ukraine, with its extremely specific approach to the rehabilitation of Nazism.
      2. miru mir
        miru mir 13 October 2020 11: 28
        +1
        you are so worried about the Armenians you can't eat laughing
      3. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 13 October 2020 11: 29
        +3
        Quote: Maz
        Azeibarjan bvblo for Jews does not smell like Jewish blood, Armenians are Christians in general, that is, goyim, so everything is legitimate.

        And the Jewish loot, MAZ, don't you smell? Fight for Israel with two hands and two feet? Then everything is legitimate.
      4. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 13 October 2020 13: 27
        0
        Quote: Maz
        Azeibarjan bvblo for Jews does not smell like Jewish blood, Armenians are Christians in general, that is, goyim, so everything is legitimate. The hypocrisy of the most peaceful is evident. Then there will be Ukraine with Donbass. And they will also say sho we have nothing to do with it. And the video of Israeli cluster munitions along the streets of Stepanakert is certainly not proof ...

        Of course, at what. Moreover, the Israeli military-industrial complex is supported by the state, which takes money from the taxes of its citizens. For example - a forum member living in Israel MAZ went to a store under the nickname MAZ, bought food for a week. The owner of the store paid a tax on the profits for the goods bought by MAZ, the money from which went to the production of one of the ammunition that hit Stepanakert.
        Further - the resident of Israel sent money to his relatives in Ukraine. They went to the store, bought a meal from these grandmothers for a week. The shop owner's profit tax went to the ATO, directed against the residents of Donbass. You know these people in Israel, eh, MAZ?
    6. Maz
      Maz 13 October 2020 11: 23
      -1

      So you say you did not use Israeli ammunition on the territory of Armenia? Strange, but the Armenian sapper says "Barak", Lars160, Laura ... And how does he know that? But the Armenian sapper is nobody for the Israeli court, he is not even a Jew.
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 13 October 2020 12: 50
        +1
        Quote: Maz

        So you say you did not use Israeli ammunition on the territory of Armenia? Strange, but the Armenian sapper says "Barak", Lars160, Laura ... And how does he know that? But the Armenian sapper is nobody for the Israeli court, he is not even a Jew.

        Is NK this Armenia?
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      3. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 13 October 2020 17: 42
        -3
        Quote: Maz
        So you say you did not use Israeli ammunition on the territory of Armenia?

        Oh, how fluffy and white we are, we ran away from our beloved homeland, hung like in an ice hole and they don't like here and don't wait there and warm your soul (if you have one?) Shekel and various foul-smelling information of your choice.
        Quote: Maz
        Armenian sapper says

        And not only a sniper, we listened for many years and Armenian radio.
        Now, look at the Jewish work.
        The Mossad, hated by you, has opened a channel for the provision of Russian weapons to terrorist organizations - Hizbullah, Hamas, namely through the regime of Bashar al-Assad, to which territory is controlled by "humanitarian convoys" by sea (naval base Tartus) and air (Khmeimim airbase) from Russia.


        Boxes with Russian 9M133 Kornet anti-tank guided missiles seized by the IDF
  2. Victor_B
    Victor_B 13 October 2020 09: 35
    +3
    Israeli court rejected a motion to ban the supply of weapons to Azerbaijan

    Jews are VERY cunning!
    And what about the law? He's a tongue ...
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 13 October 2020 09: 41
      12
      Quote: Victor_B
      And what about the law? He's a tongue ...

      Formally, the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh was not recognized even by ARMENIA itself!
      Didn't they shoot at the territory of Armenia with Jewish weapons?
      Probably not...
      And when Azerbaijanis shoot at their territory, the whole world (well, except for Russia) shrugs its shoulders. And that's it!
      1. miru mir
        miru mir 13 October 2020 11: 29
        +1
        Armenians come out more cunning than Jews winked
    2. frruc
      frruc 13 October 2020 10: 11
      +4
      It would be strange to hear anything else from Israel. Hmm. No.
    3. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 13 October 2020 10: 54
      +3
      Quote: Victor_B
      And what about the law? He's tongue

      New law? Now they will not judge the murderer, but the master of the gunsmith and the seller from the arms shop?
      1. MKPU-115
        MKPU-115 13 October 2020 11: 21
        -1
        Quote: A. Privalov
        and the gunsmith and arms dealer?

        In our country, such "gunsmiths" and their sellers are given real terms in general.
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 13 October 2020 11: 35
          +1
          Quote: MKPU-115
          In our country, such "gunsmiths" and their sellers are given real terms in general.

          Then, it turns out, the states selling weapons around the world will not sit out. You are our joker.laughing
          1. MKPU-115
            MKPU-115 13 October 2020 11: 46
            +5
            Quote: A. Privalov
            Quote: MKPU-115
            In our country, such "gunsmiths" and their sellers are given real terms in general.

            Then, it turns out, the states selling weapons around the world will not sit out. You are our joker.laughing

            Our? belay

            And it depends on who can and who is not.
            For example Israel can, but Iran is not.
            1. A. Privalov
              A. Privalov 13 October 2020 11: 56
              0
              Quote: MKPU-115
              Our?

              And it depends on who can and who is not.
              For example Israel can, but Iran is not.

              Ours, ours. Here, ours, anyone who makes us laugh.
              That's all right. Israel can, but Iran cannot. For nefig. hi
              1. MKPU-115
                MKPU-115 13 October 2020 12: 04
                +3
                The one who laughs last (of no consequence) laughs is a Russian proverb. wink
              2. MKPU-115
                MKPU-115 13 October 2020 12: 08
                +3
                Quote: A. Privalov
                That's all right. Israel can, but Iran cannot. For nefig.

                Wise international policy, fair trade relations. good
                In the end, we also need to sell the S-400 to someone, not only Turkey.
                1. ender
                  ender 13 October 2020 12: 54
                  +2
                  Quote: MKPU-115
                  In the end, we also need to sell the S-400 to someone, not only Turkey.



                  Well, they sold both S-300 to Armenia and Azerbaijan. and how are you doing? now a new fetish
                  1. MKPU-115
                    MKPU-115 13 October 2020 13: 05
                    +3
                    Quote: ender
                    Quote: MKPU-115
                    In the end, we also need to sell the S-400 to someone, not only Turkey.



                    Well, they sold both S-300 to Armenia and Azerbaijan. and how are you doing? now a new fetish

                    To get rid of old rubbish (1983). Let them dispose of each other in their territories.
                    1. ender
                      ender 13 October 2020 13: 29
                      -1
                      well yes. bought every g .. rubbish. but now a real wunderwaffe. is not it?
                      1. MKPU-115
                        MKPU-115 13 October 2020 14: 16
                        +2
                        Quote: ender
                        but now a real wunderwaffe. is not it?

                        I'm not a waffle specialist request
                        And war is always the development and improvement of science, industry, technology.
                        Better to train and improve weapons on a "foreign field", away from your borders, isn't it?
        2. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 13 October 2020 17: 59
          -1
          Quote: MKPU-115
          In our country, such "gunsmiths" and their sellers are given real terms in general.

          And where is it with us? Is it really the Basmanny Court?
          On July 27, militants of the Hezbollah terrorist organization used the Kornet anti-tank complex when firing at the Israeli military from southern Lebanon. The target was a tank or an armored vehicle.
          On September 2, during the incident, Hezbollah militants also used the Kornet ATGM


          And who was given and how much?
  3. Yalquzaq
    Yalquzaq 13 October 2020 09: 38
    -5
    Flaming Shalom to our brothers in Israel.! drinks
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 13 October 2020 10: 10
      -2
      Quote: Yalquzaq
      Fiery Shalom

      And you too!
    2. karima
      karima 13 October 2020 11: 02
      -2
      Quote: Yalquzaq
      Flaming Shalom to our brothers in Israel.! drinks

      Well, there you have it, ashhad anna shalom.
    3. miru mir
      miru mir 13 October 2020 11: 30
      -1
      salam alleykum to our brothers in Azerbaijan drinks
    4. MKPU-115
      MKPU-115 13 October 2020 11: 50
      +4
      Quote: Yalquzaq
      Flaming Shalom to our brothers in Israel.! drinks

      What lovely kind faces. And you say that there is no friendship of peoples, Jews and Shiite Muslims in an embrace - THAT'S WHAT THE LIFE-CREATING BAX DOES WITH PEOPLE !!!! wassat
      1. igor67
        igor67 13 October 2020 13: 54
        +4
        Quote: MKPU-115
        Quote: Yalquzaq
        Flaming Shalom to our brothers in Israel.! drinks

        What lovely kind faces. And you say that there is no friendship of peoples, Jews and Shiite Muslims in an embrace - THAT'S WHAT THE LIFE-CREATING BAX DOES WITH PEOPLE !!!! wassat

        This is not a dollar, but a huge diaspora from Azerbaijan, I work with them, at our plant there are dozens of workers who come from Azerbaijan-Caucasus,
        1. MKPU-115
          MKPU-115 13 October 2020 14: 32
          +1
          Quote: igor67
          This is not a buck

          Those. has nothing to do with money? Pure charity laughing
          1. igor67
            igor67 13 October 2020 14: 38
            +2
            Quote: MKPU-115
            Quote: igor67
            This is not a buck

            Those. has nothing to do with money? Pure charity laughing

            I answered you about a photo in which everyone is smiling, and yes, under Aliyev, both develop friendship with Israel, according to the natives, all their synagogues work and are in excellent condition, as well as all the places associated with the Jews of Azerbaijan, unlike Armenia, I communicate with ordinary people workers like me, they have no business in Azerbaijan, only friendly relations
      2. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 13 October 2020 21: 06
        -1
        Quote: MKPU-115
        What lovely kind faces. And you say that there is no friendship of peoples, Jews and Shiite Muslims in an embrace - THAT'S WHAT THE LIFE-CREATING BAX DOES WITH PEOPLE !!!!

        They will kiss each other for gold and silver on the forehead, on the gums, and on the unwashed ass .. lol But go ahead! laughing
  4. Operator
    Operator 13 October 2020 09: 46
    +1
    When our Defense Ministry is brainwashed and it finally starts a large-scale production of reconnaissance UAVs and loitering ammunition, we must not forget to organize the supply of these types of weapons to the Syrians (for use in the occupied Golan zone) and the Palestinians (for use in the occupied Palestinian zone).

    Like, well, what's wrong with that - in the legal territory of Israel, UAVs and BBs will not be used am
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 13 October 2020 09: 51
      +1
      Putin never quarrels with Israel ..
      It says something ..
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 13 October 2020 09: 57
        +8
        Why would he quarrel?
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 13 October 2020 09: 59
          -3
          It says something ..

          I hinted at the same ..
      2. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 13 October 2020 10: 19
        -6
        Quote: Roman070280
        It says something ..

        He says that he studied well and does not like rakes.
        1. Fungus
          Fungus 13 October 2020 10: 40
          +1
          Patience is not eternal. It will be necessary to bomb you to smithereens. Sorry so far ...
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 13 October 2020 10: 50
            -1
            Quote: Fungus
            Patience is not eternal. It will be necessary to bomb you to smithereens. Sorry so far ...

            They feel sorry for themselves laughing Owners of nuclear weapons since the mid-60s somehow do not really want to bomb))
            1. MKPU-115
              MKPU-115 13 October 2020 11: 29
              +5
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Owners of nuclear weapons feel sorry for themselves since the mid-60s, somehow they don't really want to bomb))

              Israel officially has no nuclear weapons. And Israel itself is a regional state with 70% of a rocky desert and a limited supply of water, who needs it?
              The more you sell, the better, we need to train on someone and prepare for the war of the future.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 13 October 2020 13: 42
                0
                Quite right - without a population, its value is minor. You must always train - prepare for the war of the future - too, I agree. ))
                1. MKPU-115
                  MKPU-115 13 October 2020 14: 29
                  +1
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  Quite right - without a population, its value is minor. You must always train - prepare for the war of the future - too, I agree. ))

                  I will add - on foreign territory, by someone else's hands, or supposedly by someone else’s hands, on a modern day he is armed with the enemy.
                  And how would we “copy” the signature of the F-35 without Israel and put it in the S-500, and then not in the export S-400? Thank you.
                  1. borberd
                    borberd 13 October 2020 18: 38
                    0
                    Come on, be shy, the F-22 was also sketched with a pencil in a notebook. wassat
                    1. MKPU-115
                      MKPU-115 13 October 2020 18: 47
                      +1
                      Quote: borberd
                      Come on, be shy, the F-22 was also sketched with a pencil in a notebook. wassat

                      Yes, everything to you, sworn partners, tell tongue
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 13 October 2020 19: 35
                        +2
                        I live in Russia - when I retell the Israelis (they all served in the army) that in Russia they tell the general public about military affairs, they do not believe me. When I show stories from different TV channels or articles, bewilderment and smirks turn into laughter. )) But you believe - the main thing is to believe good
                      2. MKPU-115
                        MKPU-115 13 October 2020 20: 54
                        +1
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        I live in Russia - when I retell the Israelis (they all served in the army) that in Russia they tell the general public about military affairs, they do not believe me. When I show stories from different TV channels or articles, bewilderment and smirks turn into laughter. )) But you believe - the main thing is to believe good

                        You, too, believe in indestructible Israel. laughing Remind the story of the elusive Joe?
                        Although I'm lying, it is badly needed as a training ground and supply of modern weapons for training and practicing countermeasures.
                      3. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 13 October 2020 21: 00
                        +2
                        I don't believe in indestructible in principle laughing By the way - yes, it's true about the landfill. It is Israel's happiness that the USSR supplied weapons to the Arabs, respectively, the Americans supplied modern weapons and technology to Israel. Well, if nobody needs it, what did your teacher do there with his Shilka? wink
                      4. MKPU-115
                        MKPU-115 13 October 2020 21: 15
                        0
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        It is Israel's happiness that the USSR supplied weapons to the Arabs, respectively, the Americans supplied modern weapons and technology to Israel.

                        As if you are not in the subject, export options are greatly reduced and differ by an order of magnitude from the original in our troops. Now ignorant people are breaking their spears over the Turkish S-400. But we know that the export S-400 will not be able to work according to our VKS, the missile will go to the zenith and self-destruct, + work algorithms, signatures, some blocks, etc.
                        I remember when the export S-300 was sold to the Chinese, they threw out something (I can't write that, sorry, you yourself understand), and they put a chair in this place wassat as if for the commander.
                        The Chinese, of course, guessed about this, because the reaction time of the complex increased by two minutes.
                      5. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 13 October 2020 21: 40
                        +1
                        Yes, I'm in the subject laughing It's just that the same Israelis, unlike the Arabs, prefer to take from the Amers the minimally sophisticated equipment, which they bring to mind to fit their requirements. As for the Turks, I'm not sure that they will not be able to bring the S-400 to mind as well.
                        But I'm not a specialist - you know better hi
  5. Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 13 October 2020 14: 17
    +1
    Quote: Fungus
    ... It will be necessary to bomb you to smithereens.

    Well, the USSR tried to do it twice. From 1960 to 1982, and not only with the supply of the most modern weapons, but also with military units. How it ended EVERYONE knows.
    And in the end L.I. Brezhnev said: “We gave them the latest technology, and they again skimmed and yelled to be rescued. We will not fight for them. I am not going to start a world war because of them. " This was the Soviet Union's weaponry that you still use today.
    1. Fungus
      Fungus 13 October 2020 14: 41
      -4
      Nobody tried it yet. While they regret it.
    2. MKPU-115
      MKPU-115 13 October 2020 15: 11
      -3
      Quote: Vitaly Gusin
      but also by combat formations.

      After that, no one flew anywhere. My teacher in manual mode from an awl filled two phantoms at a time laughing
      1. borberd
        borberd 13 October 2020 18: 46
        +2
        What year did this fishing take place? I worked with a grandfather, who in 73 tanks crushed Egyptian air defense, in manual mode, which is known by whom it was controlled. And what is characteristic - after that it did not fire lol
        1. MKPU-115
          MKPU-115 13 October 2020 20: 42
          -1
          Quote: borberd
          And what is characteristic - after that it did not fire

          This is when Israel lost 70% of its aviation?
          Yes, there was such yes
          1. borberd
            borberd 13 October 2020 20: 50
            +3
            70 percent? What are the numbers? But no, in the Yom Kippur War, Israel lost 101 out of 561 aircraft. Even for a second year, it is clear that this is not 70%. But you write, we read with interest lol ... I love army bikes. My teacher once pulled out a hunting rifle with a lens in the barrel, and rubbed in that it was a super-secret blaster that cuts tanks at a distance of 2 km like a hyperboloid of engineer Garin.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 13 October 2020 21: 17
              +1
              Out of 350, with 60 in the first three days. And to me, when I was working as a guard, one of our emigrants rubbed in that he was a special forces soldier and therefore shift comrades had to go around the territory at night (ultimately, out of respect). He told me that he could knock out the liver through the mouth (early 10s). I brought the Gloves, and I gave him shells (XNUMX oz, almost shells). In short, then he also refused to go to the shooting gallery, even at my expense. laughing
              1. borberd
                borberd 13 October 2020 21: 29
                +1
                Wiki talks about 561, although it is possible that 350 are fighters and attack aircraft, and the rest are auxiliary and transport. But even here it turns out ~ 30%. The teacher was in the Soviet school. He told tales ... for a feast for the eyes, but we sat and listened laughing
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 13 October 2020 19: 39
        +3
        Quote: MKPU-115
        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        but also by combat formations.

        After that, no one flew anywhere. My teacher in manual mode from an awl filled two phantoms at a time laughing

        Is he a former nobleman? Did he tell you how he shot a deer in the head with Cherry Bone? And about meeting a deer next year? laughing
        1. MKPU-115
          MKPU-115 13 October 2020 20: 47
          0
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Quote: MKPU-115
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          but also by combat formations.

          After that, no one flew anywhere. My teacher in manual mode from an awl filled two phantoms at a time laughing

          Is he a former nobleman? Did he tell you how he shot a deer in the head with Cherry Bone? And about meeting a deer next year? laughing

          You confused it with your grandfather as a tanker who crushed Egyptian air defenses with a tank wassat
          The Baron is resting in this case.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 13 October 2020 20: 54
            +3
            So they were crushed by tanks after crossing the Suez Canal in 1973. request By the way, Kedmi told how some smart guy fired at an air defense missile -75 and what happened after that laughing A real historical fact, but knocking down two Phantoms in a row out of 13 shot down by Soviet air defense in 1969-70 in manual mode in general - this pulls the Star of the Hero of the Soviet Union. Was he a Hero? ))
        2. MKPU-115
          MKPU-115 13 October 2020 20: 50
          +2
          Quote: Krasnodar
          how did you shoot a deer in the head with Cherry Bone?

          Maybe a cherry pit lol
          "Israel lost five aircraft, another was damaged. After the battle, officers Konstantin Popov and Nikolai Kutyntsev were promoted to the title of Hero of the Soviet Union. From July 1969 to August 1970, the Israeli Air Force lost 94 aircraft - almost half of its aviation."
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Попов,_Константин_Ильич
          1. borberd
            borberd 13 October 2020 21: 05
            +1
            Here in 3 years, one third less than you broadcast:

            Over the entire period from the end of the Six Day War in June 1967 to January 1970, Israel lost 69 aircraft on all fronts, including the Syrian and Jordanian. Of these, only 32 were lost in aerial combat, while the rest were shot down by anti-aircraft fire.

            On August 1, 1970, Marshal Pavel Kutakhov, commander of the USSR Air Force, flew to Cairo. On August 2, he ordered the termination of MiG flights in the Suez Canal zone until all the circumstances of the death of three Soviet pilots were clarified [61]. The leadership of the USSR notified the Egyptian side that it could no longer provide assistance to the Egyptian government in ensuring the inviolability of the Egyptian air lines.
            1. MKPU-115
              MKPU-115 13 October 2020 21: 18
              -1
              Quote: borberd
              Over the entire period from the end of the Six Day War in June 1967 to January 1970, Israel lost ...

              You are like azerprop with Armenian radio laughing
              You do not differ from the Maimuns in the quality of assessing your losses and the losses of the enemy hi
              1. borberd
                borberd 13 October 2020 21: 30
                +1
                What evidence do you have? (from)
              2. MKPU-115
                MKPU-115 13 October 2020 21: 41
                -2
                Quote: borberd
                https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Попов,_Константин_Ильич

                Oh how belay
                https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Попов,_Константин_Ильич
                The Israeli side recognized one irrecoverably lost and one damaged plane.
                You, as Armenians with Azeris, have not gone far from them.
              3. borberd
                borberd 13 October 2020 22: 18
                +1
                I am lazy to answer misinformation. Read it yourself. On August 3, there were no 5 downed Phantoms, there was only one.
                http://artofwar.ru/p/ponamarchuk_e/text_0400.shtml
              4. MKPU-115
                MKPU-115 14 October 2020 00: 03
                -2
                Quote: borberd
                I am lazy to answer misinformation. Read it yourself. On August 3, there were no 5 downed Phantoms, there was only one.
                http://artofwar.ru/p/ponamarchuk_e/text_0400.shtml

                It is clear, did Israel, when admitting its mistakes and losses? As Azerbaijanis and Armenians, honestly.
        3. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 13 October 2020 21: 47
          +3
          Well, you don't need to change from a sore head to a healthy one - you can't hide them in tiny Israel, where everyone, including women, serves. Unlike the USSR, where the bulk of men served in military departments or for painting the grass hi
        4. MKPU-115
          MKPU-115 13 October 2020 21: 55
          -1
          Quote: Krasnodar
          they cannot be hidden in tiny Israel, where everyone, including women, serves.

          You don’t confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs. It is one thing to hide, and quite another thing to admit. In Israel, it may not have been hidden, but it has not been recognized internationally.

          Quote: Krasnodar
          In contrast to the USSR - where the bulk of men served in military departments or for painting the grass

          The grass was painted laughing , I sympathize.
        5. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 13 October 2020 21: 58
          +2
          What is the international level? lol There is no such squalor - do not wash dirty linen in public
          Not because they are so truthful, but because they like to talk
          Whom do you sympathize with? Well, me too! And, also, the wall newspaper in the Lenin's corner is an irreplaceable thing in battle.
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 13 October 2020 21: 27
    +2
    lol
    94?
    https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Египетско-израильская_война_на_истощение
    Israeli losses:
    694 [9] -1424 [10] military personnel
    227 [9] civil
    2659 [9] wounded
    17 aircraft - egypt. front
    7 aircraft - jord. front
    4 aircraft - sire. front [1
    That is, of the 28 aircraft shot down on all fronts in 1969-70, Israel lost 94 laughing
    By the way, his aircraft in 1970 was about 400 units - later sold all 50 ventures and fugamagistrov
    Of the 17 aircraft shot down by Egypt, 13 are at the USSR air defense. In 1972, Sadat asked the Soviet troops to leave. the main task of the war started by Egypt - the return of the Sinai, they did not fulfill due to the impossibility of covering the entire territory of Egypt from the raids of Heil Haavir.
    1. MKPU-115
      MKPU-115 13 October 2020 21: 45
      -1
      But what about the sequel? Forgot, remind laughing
      Israeli losses in technology: from 109 [10] to 120 [11] planes and helicopters shot down or crashed, about 20 more were written off due to damage [122], 15 [13] or 31 [123] UAVs. The irretrievable losses of armored vehicles amounted to 540 tanks and 265 armored personnel carriers on the southern front and 300 tanks and 135 armored personnel carriers on the northern front [11]. The Israeli fleet lost 1 tanker [84], there were no irretrievable losses in the battle fleet [85], only damaged [87].

      During the Yom Kippur War, Israel lost 2522-3020 killed, 7500-12 wounded, 000-326 people were captured [530] [12]. According to Arab statements, Israel lost 124 people dead and 8000 wounded [20] [000].

      During the war, a large number of high-ranking Israeli officers were killed and captured. Asaf Jaguri submarine (October 8), Amnon Arad submarine (October 11), Avraham Lanir submarine (October 13), Guri Palter submarine (October 18) ), n / a Moshe Bartov (October 20).

      Killed: Major General Adam Mandler (252nd TD), Yitzhak Ben-Shoham (188th TB), Leo Arlazor (110th AE), Yov Vaspi (39- th TB), s / c Ehud Shelah (116th AE), s / n Amnon Rimon (p-679th TB), p / d David Israel (188th TB), p Ben-Zion Carmeli (87th RTB), p / c Ehud Hankin (69th AE), p / c Mishulam Reits (71th TB), p / p- to Yakov Shachar (12th PB), sub-station Tuvia Toren (125th TB), sub-station Shaul Shalev (184th TB), sub-station Egozi (91st MB) et al. [128] [129]

      Several samples of captured Western equipment were sent to the Soviet Union. Among them were the latest western tanks and one unmanned aircraft [130]. For the first time, the Arabs managed to seize Israeli weapons in large quantities [131].
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Война_Судного_дня
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 13 October 2020 21: 54
        +1
        So this is 1973, when the grouping of Soviet troops in Egypt was no longer there. I remind you - she was taken out, at the request of the Egyptians, in 1972 hi And bring the loss of the Arabs from this article, pliz laughing
  • ender
    ender 13 October 2020 09: 57
    -4
    By the way, yes. Probably Ukraine will not be hindered by the supply of such ammunition (for use in the occupied zone). do you mind?
    1. frruc
      frruc 13 October 2020 10: 14
      +1
      And what they have accupted, I do not know something.
      1. ender
        ender 13 October 2020 10: 27
        -6
        especially! for use on your own! territory, according to the UN General Assembly resolution A / RES / 68/262 on the territorial integrity of Ukraine
    2. Pytnik
      Pytnik 13 October 2020 10: 17
      11
      No, not against, but you will not mind the appearance of the S -400 Su -30 CM or Su -35 in Iran, and much more wink
      1. ender
        ender 13 October 2020 10: 23
        -4
        ie, now, do you guarantee they won't show up? I listen to you very carefully))
        1. Pytnik
          Pytnik 13 October 2020 10: 30
          +3
          what guarantees, what are you talking about .... request wink Nothing personal just business bully
          1. ender
            ender 13 October 2020 10: 35
            -6
            Quote: Pytnik
            what guarantees, what are you ... request wink, nothing personal, only business


            h. etc.
            1. Pytnik
              Pytnik 13 October 2020 10: 42
              +2
              naturally wink
              1. ender
                ender 13 October 2020 10: 53
                -6
                point of view of mice again? well, this is so old ... if you think of something newer - let me know;))
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 13 October 2020 10: 52
        -3
        Quote: Pytnik
        No, not against, but you will not mind the appearance of the S -400 Su -30 CM or Su -35 in Iran, and much more wink

        Yes, the air defense has already shown itself - whatever it may be. As for the airplanes, they consist of three parts. Glider, engine and combat control system, including the pilot. Iran is expecting problems with the latter.
    3. MKPU-115
      MKPU-115 13 October 2020 11: 30
      +2
      Quote: ender
      By the way, yes. Probably Ukraine will not be hindered by the supply of such ammunition (for use in the occupied zone). do you mind?

      We do not mind. We will work out countermeasures from modern UAVs in foreign territory.
  • Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 13 October 2020 10: 26
    -4
    Quote: Operator
    we must not forget to organize the supply of these types of weapons to the Syrians

    Well, to put instructors (if they do not agree then YOU) instead of Iranian.
    Elimination of Iranian UAV in Israel and control center in Syria
  • karima
    karima 13 October 2020 11: 05
    +2
    Quote: Operator
    we must not forget to organize the supply of these types of weapons to the Syrians

    That is, the story of the IL-20 did not teach you anything. Sadly, of course, the rake is your everything.
  • Revival
    Revival 13 October 2020 11: 13
    +3
    Yeah, the Syrians do not have enough of a drone, otherwise they would just attack.
    There is not enough power and they do not dare to blather, they are bombed as they want, and they knock down the rackets as they can
  • MKPU-115
    MKPU-115 13 October 2020 11: 23
    0
    The plan is insidious, but the current political leadership of Russia will not agree to it.
    And to warm up the Kurds in Turkey.
  • Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 13 October 2020 11: 58
    -2
    Quote: Operator
    will establish large-scale production of reconnaissance UAVs


    You overslept somewhere. For the tactical echelon, we make a bunch of drones for reconnaissance and command control (Zastava, Forpost, Aileron). Moreover, the same Outpost is already equipped with a motor of our production. And the effectiveness of harop on the battlefield, for me personally, is a big question.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 13 October 2020 14: 17
      +8
      Quote: Cyril G ...
      For the tactical echelon, we make a bunch of drones for reconnaissance and command control (Zastava, Forpost, Aileron).

      "Outpost" (without letter P) and "Outpost" with us collect - and from kosher components.
      ICH, these migrants are not allowed back: the Israeli air defense on July 11.07.2018, XNUMX shot down our "Outpost". And he just wanted to look at his homeland ... smile
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 13 October 2020 14: 22
        +1
        They wrote exactly about the beginning of the release of Forpost-R last year
        By the way, it was the case that they fired at the Patriot air defense system outpost and missed.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 13 October 2020 14: 30
          +1
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          They wrote exactly about the beginning of the release of Forpost-R last year

          Chickpea is a completely different "Outpost" - roughly like the Tu-22 and Tu-22M. smile
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          By the way, it was the case that they fired at the Patriot air defense system outpost and missed.

          The UAV urgently grew another ray on the star - and the missile defense system went into milk. smile
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 13 October 2020 14: 32
          +2
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          They wrote exactly about the beginning of the release of Forpost-R last year
          By the way, it was the case that they fired at the Patriot air defense system outpost and missed.

          And the F-16 could not shoot down. Then the Patriots set up
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 13 October 2020 14: 31
        +2
        Where does the Motherland begin ... With shmona in your luggage ..
  • MKPU-115
    MKPU-115 13 October 2020 13: 08
    -1
    Quote: Operator
    When our Defense Ministry is brainwashed and it finally starts a large-scale production of reconnaissance UAVs and loitering ammunition, we must not forget to organize the supply of these types of weapons to the Syrians (for use in the occupied Golan zone) and the Palestinians (for use in the occupied Palestinian zone).

    Like, well, what's wrong with that - in the legal territory of Israel, UAVs and BBs will not be used am

    They are, they are all tested in Syria.
  • MKPU-115
    MKPU-115 13 October 2020 15: 03
    0
    Our UAVs have been tested in Syria for a long time in "combat" conditions.

    Quote: Operator
    we must not forget to organize the supply of these types of weapons to the Syrians (for use in the occupied zone of the Golan) and the Palestinians (for use in the occupied zone of Palestine).

    Yes, you are bloodthirsty, now blue-eyed people will minus us, with indignation "and why are we?"
  • Seaflame
    Seaflame 13 October 2020 15: 31
    +1
    and that Russian-made weapons do not mow down Armenians? Why the bolt, is this hypocrisy? or if only to throw some poop at the Jews?
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 October 2020 09: 46
    +3
    The judge did not find sufficient evidence
    Nothing personal, just the arms business. And human rights activists really ran ahead of the locomotive, it was necessary to wait a little, to prepare public opinion. A cavalry attack failed to break through the judge.
    1. karima
      karima 13 October 2020 11: 07
      +4
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And human rights defenders really ran in front of the locomotive,
      Well, these are the Armenian-Soros human rights defenders, as you know, when the Azeris were thrown out of their homes, no one even moved there.
  • OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 13 October 2020 09: 52
    -2
    Classics are always relevant.
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  • yehat2
    yehat2 13 October 2020 10: 42
    -3
    a dropped tactical missile on a bridge, where there is a video of the flight and clearly identifiable remains - not evidence?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 13 October 2020 10: 55
      +5
      Was it Laura? Was it the territory of Armenia?
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 13 October 2020 11: 51
        0
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Was it Laura? Was it the territory of Armenia?

        Good day. hi
        Here is what the head of the NKR answered to a question similar in meaning:
        "During the April war (escalation of the 2016 conflict - ed.), The Israeli authorities not only knew that the weapons supplied to Azerbaijan were used not for defensive, but offensive purposes, they were used by specialists who arrived from Israel. Therefore, these statements are a mockery of people. Of course they know. and continue to supply (weapons - ed.). And the authorities of Israel, which itself survived the genocide, are also responsible for this genocide, "Harutyunyan said.
        1. ender
          ender 13 October 2020 12: 11
          +8
          I am keenly interested, but did the Russian authorities know that "the weapons supplied to Azerbaijan are used not for defensive, but offensive purposes"?
          1. Dym71
            Dym71 13 October 2020 12: 18
            +2
            Quote: ender
            I am keenly interested, but did the Russian authorities know that "the weapons supplied to Azerbaijan are used not for defensive, but offensive purposes"?

            Here for you:
            Agreement between the Government of the Russian Federation and the Government of the Republic of Azerbaijan on military-technical cooperation

            - http://docs.cntd.ru/document/901927006
            1. ender
              ender 13 October 2020 12: 28
              +4
              Agreement between the Government of the Russian Federation and the Government of the Republic of Azerbaijan on military-technical cooperation

              of course .. you don't understand, it's different! (c)
              1. Dym71
                Dym71 13 October 2020 12: 53
                +4
                Quote: ender
                You don't understand, this is different! (C)

                My dear, not the case, I come from the city of gunsmiths, we live by supplying weapons. hi
                1. ender
                  ender 13 October 2020 12: 59
                  +5
                  so not a question. I am touched by the position of Armenia:
                  - Israeli weapons are killing us! Turkish weapons are killing us!
                  - And the Russian one?
                  - uh .. Israeli weapons are killing us! Turkish weapons are killing us!
                  1. Dym71
                    Dym71 13 October 2020 13: 11
                    +3
                    Quote: ender
                    I am touched by the position of Armenia:
                    - Israeli weapons are killing us! Turkish weapons are killing us!
                    - And the Russian one?
                    - uh .. Israeli weapons are killing us! Turkish weapons are killing us!

                    Are you sure?
                    “This is a very painful topic for us. Our people are very much concerned that our strategic partner is selling arms to Azerbaijan, ”said President Serzh Sargsyan

                    The countries supplying weapons to Azerbaijan should clearly realize that the use of these weapons is a crime against the civilian population, since it seems that it is not Azerbaijan that is fighting against the Armed Forces and the civilian population of Armenia, but international corporations producing ultra-precise lethal weapons, together with their specialists. (c) Nikol Pashinyan

                    The Armenian authorities have repeatedly expressed reproaches to the allies in the CSTO, primarily to Russia and Belarus, for their extensive military-technical cooperation with Azerbaijan. Yerevan is most worried about the supply of offensive systems by Moscow and Minsk to the largest Transcaucasian republic, which can be used by Baku against the settlements of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic in the event of a resumption of large-scale hostilities. Among them are Smerch and Polonaise multiple launch rocket systems, Tochka-U tactical missile systems, Solntsepyok heavy flame-throwing systems, attack helicopters and other weapons.
                    More details: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2019/12/04/pashinyan-predosteryog-soyuznikov-vooruzhaya-baku-ne-zabyvayte-o-boevikah-ig
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 13 October 2020 12: 26
          +7
          Greetings! hi
          The guy found himself in a very difficult situation - the Azerbaijanis, who, by definition of ALL the Armenians with whom I spoke on the topic before the start of the current round of hostilities, spoke of the enemy as “tomato traders, unable to fight, without a darling, only five strong against one " etc. suddenly inflict serious losses on his armed forces.
          Now the Armenians on the battlefield look like the Chinese fighting the European powers during the opium wars - they resist, but lose because of the technical superiority of the suddenly stubborn enemy.
          At the moment, the Armenian side is trying to seek help from Russia, relations with which were ineptly ruined by Pashinyan, the head of the NKR with pretentious anti-Israeli attacks is trying to find sympathy from the Persians, who are more interested in Turkey and Azerbaijan for a number of reasons, but only the money of the Armenian diaspora can help them , which go in a rather sluggish stream - in two weeks of fighting, they collected about 95 million tanks (for comparison, the Jews during the 1973 war (!) of the year, over the same period, transported to Israel 2,5 billion dollars).
          As a matter of fact, what is he doing? What genocide? If you are afraid for the peaceful person, evacuate him entirely to Armenia. If you are afraid of Turkey - well, you should have done your own nuclear weapons, and not suffer from garbage. Populism is cheap and pretentious.
          1. Dym71
            Dym71 13 October 2020 12: 36
            +1
            Al, in fact, everything is correct with you, with the exception of the last paragraph, emotionality loomed there. yes
            Harutyunyan appeals to the conscience of the Israeli leadership for not recognizing the Armenian genocide by the Turks, and does not seek sympathy from the Persians. hi
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 13 October 2020 13: 11
              +4
              With regard to non-recognition of the genocide, Israel adheres to exactly the same policy as the USSR - they do not recognize it de jure, recognizing it de facto, calling it "the massacre of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire." In the army at the KMB, in addition to Yad Vashem, we were taken to the Armenian Genocide Museum in the Old City of Jerusalem. The reference to this historical fact is included in the Israeli school curriculum. But the Soviet Union did not want to spoil relations with Turkey by official recognition, nor does Israel.
              Now - the conscience of the leadership. There are many supporters of the recognition of the Armenian genocide in Israel - I am one of them. But I would never want to be in the place of the Israeli politicians making such a decision.
              Further, why does he mention genocide in the context of the dictates of hostilities? A school of UAV operators has been operating in Azerbaijan for 10 years - and he knows it. Why the heck to lie from scratch? Why do this now? Apart from curtsey to Iran, I see no other reason.
              1. Dym71
                Dym71 13 October 2020 13: 33
                +5
                Quote: Krasnodar
                But the Soviet Union did not want to spoil relations with Turkey by official recognition, nor does Israel.

                It seems that Erdogan does not care about this.
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Further, why does he mention genocide in the context of the dictates of hostilities?

                For him nowadays, any ways to sow doubt are good, he "has no time for fat, I would live."
                However, the leadership of Armenia has driven itself into this zugzwang.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 13 October 2020 13: 35
                  +3
                  Erdogan does not care, but "Hitlers come and go, but the people of Germany remain" (c).
                  So I mean too - messed up, and now all means are good.
  • pereselenec
    pereselenec 13 October 2020 10: 52
    +4
    "There is no evidence of use against Armenia": the Israeli court rejected the motion to ban the supply of weapons to Azerbaijan

    And even if there were, what claims could there be against the weapons-producing country? Don't they buy it to fight them?
  • iouris
    iouris 13 October 2020 10: 59
    0
    This is how a great power behaves.
    1. MKPU-115
      MKPU-115 13 October 2020 11: 37
      -1
      Quote: iouris
      This is how a great power behaves.

      What is it? Power? Israel or what? laughing
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 13 October 2020 12: 29
        +2
        Yes, of course - the 4th largest military aircraft in the world, nuclear weapons, minimum wage of 115 thousand rubles - and so garbage lol
        1. MKPU-115
          MKPU-115 13 October 2020 12: 45
          0
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Yes, of course - the 4th largest military aircraft in the world, nuclear weapons, minimum wage of 115 thousand rubles - and so garbage lol

          And the territory is smaller in area than the Kostroma region, with 70% rocky desert and a shortage of fresh water and evil neighbors dreaming of destroying Israel. And politically and economically, it is wholly and completely dependent on the United States, and Benya is just about to jump to Moscow to bow to the darkest. Why would a ruler of a "great power" do this? wassat
          Israel's nuclear weapons? And what's the point in it, if you apply it? Immediately it will be n ****, you know.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 13 October 2020 14: 29
            +5
            Well, yes, that's just a security guard of a pre-retirement age store, who came from the Kostroma region, will earn 115-120 thousand rubles there, equal to 50-60 thousand rubles in PPP in Kastroma. fellow
            In economic terms, Israel's GDP last year amounted to about 372, EMNIP, billion tanks. IT, mineralized fertilizers, chemical industry, avionics, devices. The Americans supply 3.8 billion tanks of weapons annually - nice, but not critical.
            Political dependence on the States lol Trump was paid for the past elections by Natanyaga's friend, Clintonshe was a Tel Aviv businessman. hi
            Benya does his job for the salary received from the Israeli taxpayers - if our Lavrov was jumping skipping to Washington, Berlin and Doha (for example), after the capture of Crimea, the Russian economy would look different, and the formidable puffing of cheeks - this is, of course, cool on the domestic public is flattered by pride - and in fact the fall of the national currency, the reduction of the purchasing power of the bulk of the population to Latin American indicators and below.
            So nuclear weapons are used only when the animal advances, and it is applied in stages - in a desert territory, if you do not understand (and this is understood immediately), in the army, then in cities - but this is fluffy and northern for everyone.
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              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 13 October 2020 14: 59
                +2
                Ok, let's forget about the "Kostroma" security guard in the supermarket. An Ethiopian Jewish woman who does not know the language, who works as a cleaner, receives 115-120 thousand rubles there, equal to 50-60 thousand rubles in PPP in Russia. I write about the minimum wage and only hi
                It's good that you don't mind - your vanity is amused, and it's funny to me too laughing
                I'm talking about the doctrine of the use of nuclear weapons by Israel. In the case of the use of nuclear weapons by Russia, the civilization that we know, the end will come.
        2. MKPU-115
          MKPU-115 13 October 2020 12: 46
          +1
          Quote: Krasnodar
          4th largest military aircraft in the world

          American .... lol
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 13 October 2020 14: 12
            +3
            What is American? )) American-made - so they are not bad. Before them, there were planes of their own (copied from the French), French, British and even Czech (fake for Me-109) production. In addition to the Arabs, the Britons were shot down on them (for a minute, the winners of the "Battle over England"), and not only their request
            1. MKPU-115
              MKPU-115 13 October 2020 14: 39
              0
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Before them, there were planes of their own (copied from the French), French, British and even Czech (fake for Me-109) production.

              Key word "WERE". Israel does not have its own modern combat aircraft.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 13 October 2020 14: 44
                +3
                lol If it is profitable, they will begin to serially produce their own in a year after the decision is made. It's like the production of bananas in the Russian Federation (in my opinion, Galitsky took care of this laughing ) -possible, but very expensive, firstly, for a fig, and secondly hi By the way, he also does not have a nuclear submarine - because of its uselessness. And tailoring of fur products is lame.
                1. borberd
                  borberd 13 October 2020 20: 31
                  +3
                  But Israel produces snow, or rather not quite snow ... snow cannons. Which he sold to Russia for the Winter Olympics in Sochi.
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 13 October 2020 20: 36
                    +3
                    And the road surface is of high quality, suitable for extreme frosts, Israel is able to produce. In Russia, they refused it - people need to make money from road repairs, and not toil with stuff! negative
        3. iouris
          iouris 13 October 2020 15: 27
          -1
          It is a networked great power. Israel has no borders.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 13 October 2020 11: 07
    0
    I don't know who this is Eli Joseph and whose activist he is, but if he managed from yesterday to today to submit a petition to the High Court of Justice bypassing 3-4 lower courts, without a single consideration and appeal, then most likely, this is a a very rich international leftist-liberal office.
    1. karima
      karima 13 October 2020 12: 21
      -2
      Quote: A. Privalov
      I don't know who this is Eli Joseph and whose activist he is, but if he managed from yesterday to today to submit a petition to the High Court of Justice bypassing 3-4 lower courts, without a single consideration and appeal, then most likely, this is a a very rich international leftist-liberal office.

      You will be surprised.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 13 October 2020 13: 47
        -3
        Quote: karima
        You will still be surprised

        I'm ready to be surprised. hi
        1. karima
          karima 13 October 2020 14: 55
          +1
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Joseph
          There are three minutes, they minus me, so you won't be surprised and only one plus, they say, be surprised. He is not Joseph at all, and is familiar to those who follow Israel's politics. try eli yosef, he has a party.
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 13 October 2020 15: 07
            -1
            Quote: karima
            He is not Joseph at all, and is familiar to those who follow Israel's politics. try eli yosef, he has a party.

            Thanks! Found!
            I have lived in Israel for over 30 years and have never heard of him or his party. I went to his FB page. It’s a pity for the person --- worried. By the way, he was starving for the release of Pollard and against leaving Gaza ...
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 13 October 2020 15: 17
              +2
              He's really bored))
            2. karima
              karima 13 October 2020 15: 28
              +1
              Quote: A. Privalov
              Thanks! Found! I have lived in Israel for over 30 years and have never heard of him or his party.
              Are you surprised? Thank you for giving pleasure to an elderly person. By the way, a religious fellow.
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 13 October 2020 15: 53
                0
                Quote: karima
                By the way, a religious fellow.

                It cannot be otherwise by definition. These are the last of the Mohicans - "Zionist idealists". Almost no one votes for such ...
    2. atalef
      atalef 13 October 2020 18: 30
      +2
      Quote: A. Privalov
      I don't know who this is Eli Joseph and whose activist he is, but if he managed from yesterday to today to submit a petition to the High Court of Justice bypassing 3-4 lower courts, without a single consideration and appeal, then most likely, this is a a very rich international leftist-liberal office.

      if we are talking about a lawsuit against the state, you can file directly to the BAGATS, bypassing the lower authorities.
      And filing a claim with BAGATS. pretty cheap about 1500 shekels. the only negative is that the plaintiff (if he is not a lawyer) cannot appeal himself.
      Only lawyers act in BAGATS, but this pretzel is a lawyer. therefore - well, 1500 shekels, dust, there is nothing to talk about - and PR fellow
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 13 October 2020 20: 42
        -1
        It is truth too. drinks
  • ender
    ender 13 October 2020 11: 09
    +3
    just let it lie here ..

    The 25rd Azerbaijan International Defense Exhibition ADEX 27 will be held in Baku from 2018 to 200 September, in which more than 32 companies from XNUMX countries of the world will be represented. Russia is a traditional participant in this event. “At this exhibition, we receive invaluable and, which is extremely important, very positive experience in the development of military-technical cooperation with the countries of the Caspian region, which is most important for Russia. We offer the Caspian countries not only military equipment, but also various infrastructure projects related to its maintenance and repair. training of specialists ", - said General Director of Rosoboronexport (part of Rostec) Alexander Mikheev.

    Russia occupies one of the leading places among the countries from which Azerbaijan purchases military-technical products. On September 1 of this year, the President of the Republic, Ilham Aliyev, following the results of negotiations with Vladimir Putin, said that Azerbaijan had purchased military products from Russia for more than $ 5 billion and this figure will grow.

    Russian arms deliveries
    At present, Azerbaijan is a major partner of the Russian Federation in the arms market. According to the Stockholm Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), in 2006-2016, the share of Russian weapons in the total imports of Azerbaijan’s defense products was about 22%.
    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5598195

    (for those who are especially attentive - this is 2018) I save your time))
    1. miru mir
      miru mir 13 October 2020 11: 43
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      Quote: ender
      Russia occupies one of the leading places among the countries from which Azerbaijan purchases military-technical products. On September 1 of this year, the President of the Republic, Ilham Aliyev, following the results of negotiations with Vladimir Putin, said that Azerbaijan had purchased military products from Russia for more than $ 5 billion and this figure will grow.

      ой laughing
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 13 October 2020 12: 27
        +3
        Quote: miru mir
        ой

        That sho "OY", everything is ok Egor ake, as Mar Privalov correctly noted in this thread:
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Now they will not judge the murderer, but the master of the gunsmith and the seller from the arms shop?
        1. miru mir
          miru mir 13 October 2020 12: 51
          +2
          many commentators here seem to think so. pacifists winked
          1. Dym71
            Dym71 13 October 2020 13: 00
            +6
            Quote: miru mir
            many commentators here think so

            This is far from a fact, it's just that when Israel begins to loom in the topic, the "Law of the unity and struggle of opposites" is especially gaining strength. laughing
            1. miru mir
              miru mir 13 October 2020 13: 44
              +2
              as for me, publish on the site only the name of the material - "Israel" and three dots "...". the seething of various greases and ZVS will immediately begin laughing
    2. d4rkmesa
      d4rkmesa 13 October 2020 12: 56
      +1
      "Technology in the hands of a savage ..."
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  • ender
    ender 13 October 2020 12: 07
    -1
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    And Maz, for twenty years, has been spiteful, but continues to chew on a Jewish cactus.



    The funny thing is that he really does not understand that he is responsible for the actions of the State of Israel, exactly to the same extent as any other citizen of Israel.
  • ZVS
    ZVS 13 October 2020 13: 10
    -1
    Jews don't care who helps, Muslims or Christians. The main thing for Jews is that these two confessions destroy each other as much as possible.
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 13 October 2020 13: 51
      -1
      Quote: SU
      Jews don't care who helps, Muslims or Christians. The main thing for Jews is that these two confessions destroy each other as much as possible.

      Christians are Muslims, and Muslims are Christians. Where is the poor Jew to go? lol
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 13 October 2020 19: 39
        +4
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Christians are Muslims, and Muslims are Christians. Where is the poor Jew to go? lol

        Yet the classic had a good recipe. wink
        - It was during the wars of the Catholics with the Huguenots. Seeing that Catholics exterminate Huguenots, and Huguenots exterminate Catholics, and all this in the name of faith, my father invented for himself a mixed faith, which allowed him to be either Catholic or Huguenot. So he usually walked with a squeak on his shoulder behind the hedges that lined the road, and when he noticed a lonely wandering Catholic, the Protestant faith immediately prevailed in his soul. He pointed a squeak at the traveler, and then, when he was ten steps away, he started a conversation with him, as a result of which the traveler almost always gave his wallet to save his life. It goes without saying that when my father met the Huguenot, he was immediately seized with such an ardent love for the Catholic Church that he simply did not understand how a quarter of an hour ago he could have doubts about the superiority of our holy religion.
        1. Pshelts
          Pshelts 13 October 2020 19: 45
          -1
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Yet the classic had a good recipe.

          The classics and all so silently agreed .. It's dangerous to argue. Such articles are under special control now! Is there anyone against saying in plain text? There are no such ... bully
        2. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 13 October 2020 20: 51
          0
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Yet the classic had a good recipe.

          The recipe is what you need. Only, here's the bad luck: Hindus and Buddhists also buy from us. request
      2. MKPU-115
        MKPU-115 13 October 2020 21: 59
        +1
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Christians are Muslims, and Muslims are Christians. Where is the poor Jew to go?

        As in a joke, selling water, because they will soon want to drink.
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 13 October 2020 22: 13
          0
          Quote: MKPU-115
          As in a joke, selling water, because they will soon want to drink.

          And then they will say that there is no water in the tap? lol
          1. MKPU-115
            MKPU-115 14 October 2020 00: 01
            +1
            Quote: A. Privalov
            And then they will say that there is no water in the tap?

            It is traditional, they are always to blame for everything. yes
  • Isim soyad
    Isim soyad 13 October 2020 16: 49
    +2
    The judge did not find sufficient evidence that these weapons actually participated in combat operations.

    In combat operations in the Republic of Armenia. There, so it is written, and not just in operations. NK is the territory of Azerbaijan, and no one can prohibit the use of which within their territory.