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Corrupted Marshal. Why did they forget about the demolition of the Konev monument in Prague?

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The vile, thief-like dismantling of the monument to its liberator, Soviet Marshal Ivan Konev in the Czech capital on April 3 this year, became not just a demonstrative desecration of the memory of all our soldiers who died during the Great Patriotic War for the liberation of such an ungrateful Europe, but also one of the most painful slaps in the face of foreign policy that Russia has received in recent years.


On this occasion, I remember, a storm of righteous anger, quite appropriate in this case, arose in the domestic politicians and the media. At the same time, indignant philippics addressed to Czech officials were interspersed with more or less specific promises to "bring to justice" the perpetrators of the incident. I remember that a criminal case was even opened: the Investigative Committee of Russia quite rightly qualified the events of April 3 as "Desecration of the symbols of Russia's military glory, committed in public." And what?

But nothing ... Honestly, our Duma deputies, political experts - regulars on television shows and other public figures should not have shaken the air with loud words in the style of: "Let's not forget, we will not forgive!" in the event that they did not have either the desire, or the opportunity to translate their own formidable calls into practice. Even the phrase of the press secretary of our President Dmitry Peskov about "unacceptability for Moscow" of such actions in this situation turned out to be absolutely formal and meaningless, since it ended up hanging in the air. Well, it doesn't, and so what?

After all this, the Czech President Milos Zeman, who had previously hypocritically “condemned” the mockery of the monument, instantly “changed his shoes in a jump” and, showing his true position, began to broadcast about the “inadequate reaction of Russia” and “interference in the internal affairs of the Czech Republic”. Prague dirty-russophobic Andrzej Kolarzh and Zdenek Grzyb, who were not close to either repent or correct the consequences of their own heinous deeds, began to scream that right now, on the personal order of Sergei Shoigu, "terrible saboteurs from the GRU" are making their way to the Czech Republic. the task to poison them to death with either "Novichok", or ricin, or purgen, or something else, no less terrible.

And it worked! Instead of calling these darlings the orderlies and sending them to a psychiatric hospital for examination, the Czech authorities immediately rushed in advance: they gave them state protection and began to scream even more about the "intrigues of Russian barbarians" who did not understand and did not share the sparkling and incorruptible "European values". After that, Kolář, who went into a rage, began to bombard the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, with despatches, demanding that he immediately and most decisively condemn and punish the Russians who had launched a natural "hybrid war" against him.

The situation has slipped to the level of a comedy of the worst kind, becoming humiliating for Russia. Having clearly understood that things would not go further than the indignant notes of the Russian Foreign Ministry and other, no less harmless for them "retaliatory actions", the Czechs began to openly mock Moscow and its attempts to somehow "sort out the situation" without complete and final "loss of face" ... They even refused to give the monument to the Russian side according to its request (which in itself would be a rather capitulatory decision) outright refused: they say, it belongs to the Prague municipality and that has the right to do with it what it wants: at least return it to its original place, at least demolish it, at least melt it down.

Moreover, the head of the Prague-6 district, who initiated, led and continues to defend the blasphemy committed on April 3 as a kind of "act of justice" with foam at the mouth, undertook to blame Moscow for what had happened in a completely joking manner! She is de "herself responsible for what happened." It was necessary "to take the monument to the embassy in advance", then no incident would have happened. The culmination of purposeful mockery of our country can be considered the installation in the same Prague of a memorial plaque to the traitors-Vlasov, whom geeks like Kolarzh call her "true liberators".

That is why, presumably, the topic of demolishing a monument to one of our most glorious military leaders during the Great Patriotic War somehow imperceptibly disappeared, disappearing first from television screens and front pages of newspapers, and then from Internet publications. It died out, got lost and seemed to be forgotten. The monument is gathering dust in no one knows where (if it hasn't really been melted down or cut into souvenirs), the Russian-Czech relations, albeit pretty darkened by what happened, continue to develop in the spirit of “mutual respect and good neighborliness”.

Indeed, what is there to talk and write about? About the fact that domestic foreign policy has once again gotten into a mess? That the descendants of the warriors who, at the cost of millions of their own lives, broke the back of the Nazi war machine, were unable to defend their memory? About the fact that having said "A", it is necessary to say "B", raising his fist - to beat, initiate a criminal case, bring it to the end? If not before the court verdict, then at least before the official demands for the extradition of the perpetrators and their declaration on the wanted list.

To admit that the Russian state, claiming to be a world power, probably had to find ways and means to really painfully and fairly punish, to restrain completely unruffled Russophobes, but for some reason they were not found ... Or admit that they were not looking for seriously nobody? Talking about all this is somehow not very pleasant and comfortable. It is better to pretend that nothing of the kind happened at all.

There is no worse combination than decisive words and complete inaction afterwards. And there is no worse forced silence kept after such, because it is the shameful silence of the vanquished.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 13 October 2020 18: 05
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    but also one of the most painful foreign policy slaps Russia has received in recent years.

    Frankly, I lose respect for the Kremlin after such things ... complete inability to oppose anything to this.
    Then I read on the internet that the Czech Republic invites our young people to brainwash in the educational institutions of the Czech Republic ... it is clear that they will come out from there as prepared sorosity ... no words.
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 13 October 2020 18: 20
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      And I have already lost respect for the citizens "mostly at the helm" of Europe - liberated by the Soviet Troops from the Nazis. By the way, ordinary Czechs, like Slovaks, are very friendly towards Russians.
      Let me remind you that 140 thousand Soviet soldiers, both soldiers and officers, gave their lives for the liberation of Czechoslovakia. Ungrateful pigs!
      In total, over a million Soviet soldiers died for the release of Geyropa. Eternal memory to them! soldier
      But the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs should also be "toothy".
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 13 October 2020 18: 34
        +6
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Let me remind you that 140 thousand Soviet soldiers, both soldiers and officers, gave their lives for the liberation of Czechoslovakia. Ungrateful pigs!

        Our government needs to present the Czech Republic with an invoice for every Soviet soldier who died during the liberation of their country during the Great Patriotic War! Demand reparations from them for the ruined souls of our soldiers! Stop babysitting them!
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 13 October 2020 18: 50
          +4
          By the way, only during the Liberation of Prague - 10 thousand Soviet soldiers died! And this was after the Victory ... May 9 - 12, 1945. My grandfather told me that the battles were fleeting and terrible. The SS men tried not to be taken prisoner, so they fought like hunted rats. hi
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 13 October 2020 18: 53
            +2
            Quote: Hunter 2
            By the way, only during the Liberation of Prague - 10 thousand Soviet soldiers died! And this was after the Victory ... May 9 - 12, 1945. My grandfather told me that the battles were fleeting and terrible. The SS men tried not to be taken prisoner, so they fought like hunted rats.

            How much does a person's life cost in Europe? I think at least 1 million euros? So let them multiply and scratch their heads! hi
            1. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 13 October 2020 19: 01
              +9
              There are People there too! I was in Ireland in a Pub (the Irish are great guys), in the most conspicuous place are the awards of the Pub Owner's Father hanging on a beautiful tablet ... among them - the Medal of Courage! When asked where? He replied - Dad was a military pilot ... he helped to escort convoys and ferry planes (in my opinion, through Iran). Having learned that Russian - he simply insisted that I drink a bottle of Viskar with him.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 13 October 2020 19: 38
                +7
                On April 3, 2020 in Prague, the authorities dismantled a monument to the liberator of the Czech capital from German invaders, Marshal Ivan Konev, which angered the Russian public. In response to the removal of the monument from the pedestal, the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation nevertheless opened a criminal case under the article for the desecration of the symbols of Russia's military glory committed in public. But this criminal case, apparently, has already soured.

                In response to the demolition of the monument to Konev in Russia, on May 4, unknown persons hit the monument to Czechoslovak legionaries who participated in the Russian Civil War of 1917-1922, which was installed in Chelyabinsk in 2011, and as a result, the monument was damaged several times with a sledgehammer.

                The outraged Czech side said that criminals in Russia had desecrated not only a MEMORABLE place, but also the mass grave of 262 legionnaires. And that the perpetrators of vandalism must be found and punished. That official Prague hopes that Russia will continue to fulfill its obligations to care for military graves - the corresponding document was signed between Russia and the Czech Republic in 1999.

                Moreover, there is an inscription on the monument:
                To the legionnaires of Czechoslovakia who died on the way to their free Motherland.


                But this composition of 10 greenhouses on the monument that depicts and symbolizes itself?

                Kolchak's "Ice Campaign" in 1920? When the Czechoslovak corps, well-fed and in hot Russian heating units, skidded from Russia to Japan - together with the gold reserve of the Republic of Ingushetia, which they contracted with Kolchak to protect and betray Kolchak in their selfish interests ?! While the "white" Kolchak people, together with the local population, froze and died in the cold and hunger and died in the hundreds in the snow, also making their way on foot along the railway to the Russian border.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 13 October 2020 20: 30
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                  Quote: Tatiana
                  In response to the demolition of the monument to Konev in Russia, on May 4, unknown persons hit the monument to Czechoslovak legionnaires with a sledgehammer several times

                  And if these patriots with a sledgehammer were caught by the law-enforcement officers, they would have been tapping on the pipes for a long time. "The most humane" would have soldered vandalism to them, but the liberals, in general, would have added them to the "bulk list".
                2. datura23
                  datura23 14 October 2020 06: 04
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                  I submitted a demand to the administration to dismantle this shit, they refused me, of course. But there were kind people bow to you !!!
                3. andrew42
                  andrew42 14 October 2020 19: 01
                  +2
                  This "legionary" monument must be razed to the ground twice. Because these "legionnaires" inflicted harm three times! Well, two and a half, let's say ... First we fought in WWI against Russian soldiers, this time. Then they fought against the RSFSR. Then they betrayed their Russian accomplices, that is, whites, betrayed terribly and shamefully. There the salt marsh should be, and not a monument to the Czech "military" marauders.
              2. Ros 56
                Ros 56 14 October 2020 08: 52
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                And how was this reflected in the Skripals case? Right, no way.
            2. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
              Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 14 October 2020 15: 45
              -1
              Comrade Stalin, I think, was much cheaper than his soldiers assessed, do not flatter yourself.
          2. Cherry Nine
            Cherry Nine 14 October 2020 09: 24
            -1
            Quote: Hunter 2
            only during the Liberation of Prague - 10 thousand Soviet soldiers were killed! And this was after the Victory ... May 9 - 12, 1945

            How interesting. Why was this done?
            Quote: Hunter 2
            SS men tried not to be taken prisoner, so they fought like hunted rats

            What's so good about that?
            1. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
              tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 14 October 2020 13: 38
              +3
              You probably don't know. There was just a war. Bang Bang. When the vicious East Yakut barbarians destroyed freedom-loving Czechs and Germans. Don't strain your brain to analyze - just get out!
              1. Cherry Nine
                Cherry Nine 14 October 2020 13: 51
                -3
                There was no war. The war in Europe was ended on the night of May 6-7, 45, with the surrender of the Doenitz government.

                So who, you say, and what, you say, did there in peacetime?
        2. g1v2
          g1v2 13 October 2020 20: 16
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          And also write to Sportloto. And loudly express your indignation. am In fact, there is only one answer - to demolish the Czech memorials to the Czechoslovak corps in the Russian Federation, as established in violation of the law. There are no more options. And everybody doesn't care about notes and statements.
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 13 October 2020 20: 44
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            Quote: g1v2
            In fact, there is only one answer - to demolish the Czech memorials to the Czechoslovak corps in the Russian Federation, as established in violation of the law. There are no more options.

            "..... According to the official data provided by the Central Archives of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, as of the beginning of the 652st century, there were 25826 military graves in the territory of the Czech Republic during World War II. 9628 people were buried in them, of which 16198 were with identified persons and 50 - unknown.According to the documents provided by the Czech archives, as well as the latest census of military graves, more than 1945 thousand Soviet soldiers who died during the liberation of Czechoslovakia in 18 were buried in the Czech Republic, as well as more than 1939 thousand prisoners of war and civilians who died in the period 1945- 68 ..... "What do you propose to do with these real graves? By the way, the monument to Konev was not a burial place and did not fall under the agreement. As a product, it was made with the money of Czech citizens. In order to propose to demolish Czech memorials, it is necessary to return to their homeland the ashes of more than 000 Soviet citizens buried in the Czech Republic and under the protection of their state. As a result, the issue with the Konev monument is not easy. You should not offer the unreasonable in response to the provocations of the main puppeteers, who are not at all in the Czech Republic. Although it is this reaction, or something like that, and would be the most ideal from the point of view of the CIA.
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 13 October 2020 20: 26
          +2
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Demand reparations from them for the ruined souls of our soldiers! Stop babysitting them!

          And to this they will answer "Did we call you to free us, or did you free us of your own free will?"
          1. Pshelts
            Pshelts 13 October 2020 21: 11
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            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Demand reparations from them for the ruined souls of our soldiers! Stop babysitting them!

            And to this they will answer "Did we call you to free us, or did you free us of your own free will?"

            Well, to this you can answer that they were accomplices of the Nazis .... Their weapons fought and killed our citizens .. Most of the dead were civilians, that's a fact!
            All the military factories of Europe under Hitler worked in three shifts, producing weapons that killed Soviet people and part of the loot (exported from the USSR) settled on them .. Not to mention the slaves being exported ..
            That's what's scary! Germany then obeyed and still pays indemnities .. And the rest of the accomplices, even more brutal ..?
            1. Cherry Nine
              Cherry Nine 14 October 2020 09: 43
              +1
              Quote: Pshelty
              Well, you can answer that they were accomplices of the Nazis

              It's not gonna go. The USSR recognized the London government of Benes, respectively, according to the official Soviet position, Czechoslovakia was occupied and was not responsible for what was happening.

              Paradoxically, this cannot be an excuse for the Prague operation - at the time of entering the city of 63 GWT, the war in Europe was over even according to the Soviet account.
          2. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 14 October 2020 01: 58
            +4
            Quote: tihonmarine
            "And we called you to free us

          3. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
            tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 14 October 2020 13: 42
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            They called. And they fought together (Ludwig Svoboda Corps). And the fact that now the collaborators are in power - so everything in this world is temporary, and the pendulum will swing into place. The main thing is not to forget this and draw appropriate conclusions.
        4. avdkrd
          avdkrd 13 October 2020 20: 43
          +9
          Quote: SRC P-15
          Quote: Hunter 2
          Let me remind you that 140 thousand Soviet soldiers, both soldiers and officers, gave their lives for the liberation of Czechoslovakia. Ungrateful pigs!

          Our government needs to present the Czech Republic with an invoice for every Soviet soldier who died during the liberation of their country during the Great Patriotic War! Demand reparations from them for the ruined souls of our soldiers! Stop babysitting them!

          There is no one to show. Our government is as much ours as theirs. Everything is measured only by money. The excuses will be excuses, such as that it is impossible to measure all Czechs by the same measure and that in fact Czechs love Russia and Konev in particular. I can't even imagine such an insignificant response from a self-respecting country. Imagine the stench, with a similar solution with Katyn for example. In case of complete inconsistency with the status in comparison (falsification and real marshal of Victory), the Poles would have removed the shavings from us, through all available authorities. Why does OUR government not terminate diplomatic relations in response to insulting the memory of ancestors? Maybe it's not so ours and our ancestors are different?
        5. Doccor18
          Doccor18 13 October 2020 21: 36
          +2
          Our government needs ..

          to realize that it is the government of the largest and richest country in the world, with the most powerful and just people, so that it does not exist ..
          the situation has slipped to the level of a comedy of the worst kind, becoming humiliating for Russia.

          Czech Republic humiliates Russia ...? This is not a comedy, this is a tragedy.
          1. Nikolai Korovin
            Nikolai Korovin 13 October 2020 23: 37
            +2
            It should be remembered that the real bloodshed during the civil war began with the revolt of the Czechoslovak corps. Before that, with the exception of the North Caucasus, it hadn't really turned around yet. And don't forget about 35% of the Wehrmacht ammunition made by hardworking Czech brothers.
          2. Revival
            Revival 14 October 2020 00: 06
            +1
            So it is and so the richest government, what should he be aware of?
          3. Cherry Nine
            Cherry Nine 14 October 2020 09: 46
            +3
            Quote: Doccor18
            Czech Republic humiliates Russia ...? This is not a comedy, this is a tragedy

            Russia humiliates itself. The very fact of Russia's conflict with the Prague Butovo municipality is a shame.
        6. Revival
          Revival 14 October 2020 00: 00
          -1
          Yeah, it will be like with a telegram
        7. 72jora72
          72jora72 14 October 2020 01: 07
          +1
          Our government needs to present an invoice to the Czech Republic
          Unfortunately, our authorities may present only to its citizens.
        8. NEXUS
          NEXUS 14 October 2020 02: 45
          0
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Our government needs to present the Czech Republic with a bill for every Soviet soldier who died during the liberation of their country during the Great Patriotic War!

          In the legal intricacies, and the absolute illegality of the Belovezhsky agreement and the Yeltsin rebellion, one can say that the USSR is still alive today, no matter how wild it sounds. And since 91, EVERYTHING that was adopted as a law, including the Constitution of the Russian Federation, is a filkin letter.
          So he can first present reparations to the Kremlin for the illegal seizure of power in the country and then present something to someone there?
        9. pereselenec
          pereselenec 14 October 2020 10: 09
          0
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Our government needs to present the Czech Republic with a bill for every Soviet soldier who died during the liberation of their country during the Great Patriotic War!


          And why will we have a dead Soviet soldier?
        10. Solefold
          Solefold 14 October 2020 12: 47
          0
          Wow, and how much will you ask for the head?
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        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 13 October 2020 19: 13
          +4
          Mostly ethnic Germans were called from Czechoslovakia ... Czechs and Slovaks - forged Nazi power in the rear, until the very end of the Third Reich.
          You are right - you need to be reminded of this Constantly!
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 13 October 2020 20: 36
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            Quote: Hunter 2
            You are right - you need to be reminded of this Constantly!

            You can remind me every day for 24 hours, but it will not work, I hear and see it since August 20, 1991. Like peas in the wall. I wanted to write again, what I am constantly writing about liberation, and here it will be the same - they will minus, you do not understand anything.
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          2. Pshelts
            Pshelts 13 October 2020 20: 50
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            Quote: Hunter 2
            Czechs and Slovaks - forged Nazi power in the rear, until the very end of the Third Reich.
            You are right - you need to be reminded of this Constantly!

            Berlin had already fallen, and the Czechs also continued to go to work at military factories and manufactured products for the Nazis who remained and fought locally .. I was shocked by this information (we were silent about it) ..
            You Alexey poured salt on the wound in my heart with your comments .. hi
            It's so insulting for this "gratitude of the geyrope" .. Well, nothing good for us another lesson.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 14 October 2020 08: 49
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              Quote: Pshelty
              It's so insulting for this "gratitude of the geyrope" .. Well, nothing good for us another lesson.

              There is no need to offend here, you will remember the words of G.K. Zhukov. the above, one way or another, but Europe was always under the Germans, and always looked into their mouths. When the Germans took Europe from 1938, it did not defend itself, but together with the Germans it went to fight against us. Zhukov knew this very well.
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          5. Nikolai Korovin
            Nikolai Korovin 13 October 2020 23: 42
            +1
            The Slovaks did much less harm. The military industry in Slovakia is relatively small, and from the Slovaks the Germans formed guard units, which, as a rule, acted against partisans and punished relatively sluggishly. They did not go over, but they were not particularly zealous, in contrast to the Balts and Poles. They were not sent to the front - they were unreliable. Even the Romanians were considered a much more valuable contingent.
          6. Revival
            Revival 14 October 2020 00: 08
            0
            Oh, how ashamed they are from these reminders, oh, they pressed so ...
            Well, although if we can't do anything else, then ...
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      3. Machito
        Machito 13 October 2020 19: 09
        +5
        Quote: Hunter 2
        And I have already lost respect for the citizens "mostly at the helm" of Europe - liberated by the Soviet Troops from the Nazis. By the way, ordinary Czechs, like Slovaks, are very friendly towards Russians.
        Let me remind you that 140 thousand Soviet soldiers, both soldiers and officers, gave their lives for the liberation of Czechoslovakia. Ungrateful pigs!
        In total, over a million Soviet soldiers died for the release of Geyropa. Eternal memory to them! soldier
        But the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs should also be "toothy".

        And the Russian Foreign Ministry is very sharp: Lavrov always expresses concern and bares his teeth, hiding behind anecdotes and smiles.
        The Russian Foreign Ministry works great. But the results are not very good: Russia is in complete political isolation. Such, which has not yet been in Russia since the times of Rurik, Prophetic Oleg, Polovtsy and Pechenegs.
        In order to press Russophobes to the nail, political will and economic sanctions are needed: demolished the monument - lost a billion dollars, demolished the second - cut off the gas in winter, drown with dung. Russia is being sanctioned on the basis of fake news, and we are all obnoxious and do not respond harshly to specifically hostile actions. I do not like to turn my second cheek for a blow to the first, I like to blow my head by the eye, though this is not very Christian.
        1. Nikolai Korovin
          Nikolai Korovin 13 October 2020 23: 54
          0
          For too long this whole rag-tag in Soviet times was kissed passionately. So they got used to the fact that Russia only licks them. Well, and head for an eye - it's still a bit overkill. Well, let's say, take one eye too, and since we did not start, additionally knock out teeth, break arms and legs, but to provide good prostheses is to show humanity. And leave the head in place. What if something more or less worthwhile comes into it? Although it's hard to believe.
        2. blackice
          blackice 14 October 2020 04: 54
          +3
          What do you want from the Foreign Ministry and Lavrov? His daughter is a US citizen.
          Of course, he has no money, his daughter earned everything, so he is forced to work in the Russian Foreign Ministry.
          And the policy of Russia is the cheapest whore, giving itself to almost everyone who encroaches on it. Well, unless different Zimbabwe and Mozambique have not reached.
          1. Igoresha
            Igoresha 14 October 2020 11: 02
            +1
            His daughter is a US citizen.
            and his boss's daughter must be a Dutch citizen
            1. blackice
              blackice 15 October 2020 03: 05
              -1
              Not for sure, but for sure.
      4. Pshelts
        Pshelts 13 October 2020 20: 44
        0
        Quote: Hunter 2
        And I have already lost respect for the citizens "mostly at the helm" of Europe - liberated by the Soviet Troops from the Nazis. By the way, ordinary Czechs, like Slovaks, are very friendly towards Russians.

        I am also now wary of the word "brothers", etc. Although he was brought up on internationalism and were ready to give the last shirt to help, etc.
        The result is now all we see for these smiles and "vows of friendship", we paid dearly ..
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Let me remind you that 140 thousand Soviet soldiers, both soldiers and officers, gave their lives for the liberation of Czechoslovakia. Ungrateful pigs!
        In total, over a million Soviet soldiers died for the release of Geyropa. Eternal memory to them!

        Especially terrible numbers, what is happening there now .. And even more shocking numbers ..

        More than 477 thousand Soviet soldiers died during the liberation of Poland in 1944-1945, said the head of the Central Archive of the Ministry of Defense Igor Permyakov

        Here, in my opinion, it’s just the bastard ingratitude of those whom we saved and on whose territory there were the most terrible Nazi concentration camps ..
        I'm tired of reading, what are these ... pi pi pi
        Do not do good, you will not get evil .. I hope our government understands this, for the sake of the memory of ALL the victims.
      5. NEXUS
        NEXUS 14 October 2020 02: 34
        +4
        Quote: Hunter 2
        And I have already lost respect for the citizens "mostly at the helm" of Europe

        You know, I have been asking myself one question for a long time - why are there so many people in the Russian Federation who are dissatisfied with the political system in the country, neither the head of state, nor the level of their life, etc.? ...
        It would seem that you can dismiss the answer, they say in Russia there have always been dissatisfied, and so on.
        And so I brushed it off. But discontent is growing, life in the Russian Federation is getting worse, the ruble is falling, life is getting more expensive, there are more and more beggars, the army of mediocre managers is growing, there are minchendisers, brokers, managers, and so on, the rights of people are not protected by the state, etc. ... and I can do this. the list goes on for a very long time, although many of those present here know about all this much better than me.
        I could not understand why our youth got such a squeamish disregard for their history, the times of the USSR. Why, on every May 9, the Mausoleum is so shamefully closed with plywood. Why veterans and not only the Second World War, ours usually live poorer than snickering bureaucrats at all levels of government.
        After all, in all conscience, this is not right. And many do not even think about it, because the feeling of RIGHTNESS and JUSTICE has been wiped out from their heads.
        We laughingly look at Europe, saying that they are all Washington's puppets there. Yes it is. But who are we then?
        Ahead of the shouts of rabid "patriots", I will say that we are a METROPOLY of the West, even more than the EU.
        Why?
        Well, let's go in order.
        Yeltsin came to power by means of a coup! That is, violating a whole list of articles of the USSR criminal code! And that's a FACT! The Bialowieza Agreement DOES NOT HAVE ANY LEGAL EFFECT!
        The shooting of the White House, the shooting of people by snipers at this time, people on the streets, armored vehicles, etc. ... does it look like anything? The Russian Federation became the first on whom the Maidan technologies were tested, at which many citizens of the Russian Federation now laugh.
        And to whom did Yeltsin transfer (single-handedly and without elections) the post of head of state, calling him the successor of his cause? That's right, Putin.
        And what did Putin do during his rule? He finally took away from the people the right of ownership of the bowels of the earth and gave it all to private capital. 70% and most likely most of the fossils are exported from the country. Where do people get rich from?
        And the Central Bank is a private bank and NOBODY KNOWS the name of the OWNER!
        He did not return free education, free medicine, free housing, etc., what would be good for the people ?! On the contrary, now you have to pay for everything! And officially there is a class of poor and needy! This list of questions can be continued for a long time ... and many people ask themselves these questions. Yes, only the answer is on the surface-RUSSIA DE FACTO IS THE WESTERN METROPOLY!
        And you're talking about Europe ...
      6. Cherry Nine
        Cherry Nine 14 October 2020 08: 59
        +2
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Ungrateful pigs!

        )))
        Let me remind you that the Czechs are the instigators of the idea of ​​"turning the page and living on" among the countries of Eastern Europe. Naturally, it is in Russia's interests not to allow the Czech Republic to move to a much healthier Polish position on the course and results of WWII. So here everything is done relatively correctly, although, as usual, through the ass: both the tongue should have been held from the very beginning, and the shame with the Czech Petrov-Bashirovs happened extremely inappropriately. There would be someone less filthy in Zeman's place - the antics of the Foreign Ministry / Stirlitz could cost dearly.
    2. Airdefense
      Airdefense 13 October 2020 18: 41
      +6
      Then I read on the internet that the Czech Republic invites our young people to brainwash in the educational institutions of the Czech Republic ... it is clear that they will come out from there as prepared sorosity ... no words.

      A good question is why young people from the Czech Republic do not go to study in Russia? Probably because the standard of living in the Czech Republic is higher than in Russia, there is less corruption, etc. GDP per capita in the Czech Republic is two times higher than in Russia.
      And I began to lose respect for the Kremlin after Vasilyeva had not served even half of the already negligible term and received money and real estate back.
      And the demolition of the monument to Konev, taking into account the fact that in Russia itself, there are hesitations about how to relate to the Soviet period from the condemnation of Stalin, various serials such as Zuleika, Talyank, Burnt by the Sun 2/3, etc., is generally a trifle. Here inside Russia they are trampling on history so that the West will only applaud.
      1. Bumblebee_3
        Bumblebee_3 13 October 2020 19: 28
        +3
        Airdefense (Viacheslav)
        Apparently, Russia has nothing to offer Czechs and Slovaks in the future. The saddest thing is that the Soviet school, Soviet education, was recognized as one of the best in the world. If now in history textbooks there are sections about Solzhenitsyn, what do you want to get at the end? The name of Lenin is draped on the mausoleum. About Stalin - only the Gulag and repression. Young people do not know what industrialization is. IMHO.
    3. Clear
      Clear 13 October 2020 21: 39
      +6
      Why did they forget about the demolition of the Konev monument in Prague?
      We postponed it ... We must react immediately and toughly.
    4. blackice
      blackice 14 October 2020 04: 48
      0
      I just feel like they will throw stones at me.
      Well, the article was written not in the eyebrow, but in the eye, but with a certain amount of reticence.
      in particular: the Kremlin, like the Duma, might have done something if it had not kept its assets and real estate in the same Czech Republic and many other places, on the territory of Russia's potential "friends" in NATO.
      The authorities can push as dramatically as they like, but still nothing good will come of them. Patriotism is patriotism, but when it comes to their shirt, they suddenly realize that they have something to lose and that means they can pretend that everything is not so bad, the heavenly punishment will overtake the guilty, for God is with us and Holy Russia.
      What, in essence? And in fact, any territory can now yapping at Russia, although it proudly calls itself an independent state (the Baltic states + the former countries of the socialist camp of Eastern Europe), because they curry favor with their real master.
      Our country is assigned the role of an even more independent country, which does not have a master from the outside, but which can be kicked by its master, for the sake of the one from whom he keeps his "benefits acquired by excessive labor."
      1. Cherry Nine
        Cherry Nine 14 October 2020 10: 59
        +3
        Quote: blackice
        The Kremlin, like the Duma, might have done something if it had not kept its assets and real estate in the same Czech Republic and many other places, on the territory of Russia's "friends" in NATO.

        1. The leadership of the Czech Republic, personally Zeman - the so-called putinfernsteiners, one of the most notable.
        +
        2. The Czech Republic is a well-known raspberry of Russian intelligence in the EU. Google "the number of the Russian embassy in Prague" and "the number of the Czech embassy in Moscow". It would be crazy to quarrel with such good friends.
        =
        3. The activities of the Prague municipalities are not only greetings to Russia (Russia in general does not interest anyone in the Czech Republic), but above all the digging under the same Zeman. Therefore, it is in Russia's interests not to aggravate and not drown its partner, as it is. Otherwise, such comrades from the municipalities will come in his place.
        1. blackice
          blackice 15 October 2020 03: 04
          -1
          May be.
          Well, what then about other "independent countries", tell us, where does the same thing happen? The same intelligence + our + people, let's not escalate?
          So I think my version has a probability of about 148%
          1. Cherry Nine
            Cherry Nine 15 October 2020 06: 08
            +1
            You see, I am far from being a fan of the Russian leadership. I only point out that Russia is not in a position to bullish. So the very fact that they quietly crawled away is not a mistake. The error is that it is not quiet enough.
            1. blackice
              blackice 16 October 2020 05: 45
              0
              It is this thought that is reflected in my first comment
    5. zenion
      zenion 14 October 2020 14: 50
      0
      The current government of Russia is on the side of capitalism, not the people who have been robbed.
  2. Oleg Bagaev
    Oleg Bagaev 13 October 2020 18: 11
    +2
    Not only did they not reply with anything, but also negotiations were or are about the normalization of relations, so the Czechs also kicked up after the poisoning of Navalny, they say we will not continue negotiations. Tfu, disgracers !!
    1. ee2100
      ee2100 13 October 2020 19: 14
      +2
      Bull's-eye. The demolition of the monument, the renaming of the street is all a smokescreen, and as you rightly noted, negotiations are underway to normalize relations with our "friend" Zeman, but again the newcomer did not work, once again, and the negotiations had to be interrupted.
      On the quiet, they will soon start rubbing again. The rear must be prepared!
  3. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 13 October 2020 18: 18
    +3
    Duma members and political strategists in this matter, the main thing was to promote themselves, to show themselves as patriots and everything that further they do not care
    1. Clear
      Clear 13 October 2020 21: 40
      +5
      Quote: Ryaruav
      Duma members and political strategists

      Judging by the political show, this is the same thing.
  4. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 13 October 2020 18: 20
    10
    While Sberbank is working in the Czech Republic. globalist Gref, we will only be indignant and puff out our cheeks ... like the Czechs howled when they poured paint over the stones in memory of the White Czechs, by the way, who were punishers and marauders, not liberators. We need to react appropriately: they are removing the monument to Konev, we are removing the monument to the White Czechs by the decision of the microdistrict, and as soon as money appears in the budget of the microdistrict, we will definitely install it somewhere in the swamp ... to reburial and transfer the monument to oneself in the Czech Republic at their own expense ... and the same should be done with the Poles. But loot is more important than self-respect ...
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 13 October 2020 18: 44
      +3
      Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
      We are removing the monument to the White Czechs by the decision of the microdistrict, and as soon as money appears in the budget of the microdistrict ...

      So modestly and gracefully troll the “partners” and be sure to
      Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
      install in a swamp ...

      Well, why are you so merciless - Siberia is big, there is a lot of space
      1. Clear
        Clear 13 October 2020 21: 42
        +7
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        Siberia is big, there is a lot of space

        Petya hi no need to litter Siberia No.
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 13 October 2020 22: 17
          +2
          Quote: Clear
          no need to litter Siberia

          love hi I definitely agree, but even Siberia needs to be fed with fertilizers
    2. 72jora72
      72jora72 14 October 2020 01: 36
      +4
      While Sberbank is working in the Czech Republic. globalist Gref, we will only be indignant and puff out our cheeks ..
      But in Crimea Sberbank no why then, and Post offices in Russia no, like Railways...........
      1. Igoresha
        Igoresha 14 October 2020 11: 07
        +1
        But in Crimea there is no Sberbank for some reason, and there is no Russian Post, like Russian Railways ...........
        any question comrade Petrov on the sim forum - WHOSE CRIMEA? ))
        It turns out that ALiExpress does not send parcels to Crimea either.
  5. Asad
    Asad 13 October 2020 18: 20
    +3
    Author, please voice one way, painfully, punish the Czechs?
    1. Hlavaty
      Hlavaty 13 October 2020 18: 28
      0
      Whipping in a stable with an internet broadcast.
      Better yet, get to their wallets and hit them. It will be even more painful.
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 13 October 2020 18: 39
      -2
      Author, please voice one way, painfully, punish the Czechs?

      To ban all Czech NGOs in Russia ... to expel Czech diplomats for any offense and amateur performance without our knowledge ... there are plenty of opportunities to spoil the Czechs' healthy appetite in Russia ... you can even squeeze the Czech King Rudolph with his beer with taxes and levies.
      1. Asad
        Asad 13 October 2020 18: 42
        +2
        Agree, the top have already forgotten this ,, trouble ,,!
        1. Clear
          Clear 13 October 2020 21: 45
          +4
          Quote: ASAD
          Agree, the top have already forgotten this ,, trouble ,,!

          Unfortunately, I too, on the lower classes, have forgotten forgot this rudeness. A continuous stream of negativity from all neighbors. I repeat, it is necessary to react after the fact, and concerns about a bonus to a tough response.
      2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 13 October 2020 19: 21
        +2
        ek got crazy ...
        The monument was erected by the Czechs and at the expense of the Czechs. After the Prague Spring, of course. As a kind of marker of obedience and recognition of the mistake and failure of the "revolution" in '68. Formally, the Czechs are free to do whatever they want with this monument - to dismantle, move, put up for auction, dispose of, etc. However, the accompanying all this nasty story, cheap, redneck, petty, primitive trolling - this is really disgusting. Czechs publicly combed their inferiority complex.
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 13 October 2020 20: 16
          +7
          Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Czechs publicly combed their inferiority complex.

          and along the way showed the Kremlin gnomes where they belong.
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 13 October 2020 20: 31
            -5
            For me personally, all this fuss causes a feeling of disgust. The Czechs knocked on the fence with a stick, because of which, in response, a pack of all sorts of harapuzhnyh begins to shake their wings and moan about morality, simultaneously promising to "repeat".
            1. Igoresha
              Igoresha 14 October 2020 11: 08
              +1
              promising to "repeat".
              of these citizens for such stickers on cars they have a driver's license to decide, apparently, they are going round
          2. anykin
            anykin 13 October 2020 22: 37
            -1
            Quote: Karabin
            and along the way showed the Kremlin gnomes where they belong

            Hitler tried to show, but these only ruined the air.
            1. Karabin
              Karabin 13 October 2020 23: 17
              +4
              Quote: anykin
              Hitler tried to show

              But even in the Kremlin there were no gnomes.
              1. anykin
                anykin 14 October 2020 21: 28
                0
                Is this a mantra?
      3. Cherry Nine
        Cherry Nine 14 October 2020 11: 04
        +2
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        to expel Czech diplomats for any offense and initiative without our knowledge ... Russia has plenty of opportunities to spoil the Czechs' healthy appetite ...

        Let's say the Czech Republic breaks up diplomatic gutting, expels all employees of Russian state structures and puts the entire Russian Foreign Ministry, state structures and state companies on the Schengen blacklist. How will you take revenge?
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 14 October 2020 11: 57
          0
          huh! To me, too, binomial Newton ... The favorite of passionate patriots Manya Zakharova will explain to those suffering justice (in her usual sparkling twitter manner, of course) that the Czechs shot themselves in the foot. Rospotrebnadzor will find strontium in Czech beer, and the Skoda owners will be declared collaborators, and their personal data will be merged into the network. But, I think, before the revision of the attitude towards the Munich Agreement in terms of "and did the right thing!" will not reach. laughing
          1. Cherry Nine
            Cherry Nine 14 October 2020 12: 58
            +2
            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Rospotrebnadzor will find strontium in Czech beer, and Skoda owners will be announced as collaborators

            Do you think it scares someone in the Prague municipality?
            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            revising the attitude towards the Munich Agreement in terms of "and did the right thing!" will not reach

            Not understood. What complaints can there be about the Munich Agreement?
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 13 October 2020 18: 25
    +5
    Our Duma, Government, etc. behave like a two-faced Anus ... ugh, Janus, of course ... Our ideology is patriotism ... smile Patriotism is brought up on examples, the case of the demolition of the monument to Konev, a vivid example of patriotism ... laughing
    1. Ded_Mazay
      Ded_Mazay 13 October 2020 18: 37
      -1
      Quote: parusnik
      Patriotism is brought up on examples, the case of the demolition of the monument to Konev, a vivid example of patriotism ..
      So, what do you think they should do?
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 13 October 2020 18: 45
        +2
        Quote: Ded_Mazay
        So, what do you think they should do?

        Demonstratively burn all your real estate in the Czech Republic ...
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 13 October 2020 20: 03
      -4
      Quote: parusnik
      Patriotism is brought up on examples, the case of the demolition of the monument to Konev, a vivid example of patriotism ...

      Tell me, is patriotism exported? What do the Czechs have to do with OUR patriotism?
    3. Karabin
      Karabin 13 October 2020 20: 18
      -2
      Quote: parusnik
      Our Duma, Government, etc. behave like a two-faced anus

      and "etc." who is this? Really ...? lol
  7. Gardamir
    Gardamir 13 October 2020 18: 28
    +3
    To admit that the Russian state, claiming to be a world power, probably had to find ways and means to really painfully and fairly punish, to restrain completely unbridled Russophobes
    Finally ,
    but russophobes are in power.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 13 October 2020 18: 49
      -3
      Kharaluzhny "takes bread" from Skomorokhov. If I’m not mistaken, Roman, always noted not the harmony with monuments, but here ... The youth winks at the topic))) laughing
      1. ee2100
        ee2100 13 October 2020 19: 37
        -3
        Harluzhny at the bottom of the food chain, called propaganda. He squeezed the article, as he lifted the lid from the trash can, it seemed that the stench went and the loot dripped.
        And just let the people frolic.
        And what is the bottom line? Who is the winner?
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 13 October 2020 20: 21
          +4
          Quote: ee2100
          I lifted the lid from the trash can - it seemed like the stench went

          I understood correctly who identified the problem - he called, and who crap in the foreign policy field - smells of violets?
          1. ee2100
            ee2100 13 October 2020 20: 37
            -4
            No. There is not a word about violets. This is especially about the author of this opus. What a talent one must have to write about something that everyone has long forgotten!
            Some of the participants on the sub-site "sparkled" and that's it. As in Soviet times in the kitchen.
            And the author has 30 pieces of silver!
            1. Karabin
              Karabin 13 October 2020 20: 52
              +3
              Quote: ee2100
              that everyone has long forgotten!

              And why is it impossible to write about it, while not everyone has forgotten?
              Quote: ee2100
              And the author has 30 pieces of silver!

              As far as I remember, 30 pieces of silver are payment for betrayal. Whom did Kharaluzhny betray this time?
              1. ee2100
                ee2100 13 October 2020 21: 18
                -4
                I did not betray it well, but I made money on the news that was not the first freshness, but rather already rotten. In principle, I jumped on an empty Maidan
                1. Karabin
                  Karabin 13 October 2020 21: 57
                  +3
                  Can you imagine how many people make money on "not the first fresh news". For example, historians, archaeologists. They, too, will not be published?
                  1. ee2100
                    ee2100 14 October 2020 07: 57
                    +1
                    You perfectly understand everything. This topic has long disappeared and it is impossible to compare this article with the historical one.
                    Let him write about the downed Russian plane by the Turks and urge not to buy Turkish and not go to resorts, or write about the protests in Khabarovsk and Belarus, etc. That is not enough? The topic with the monument is not DANGEROUS from here and this attitude
                    Success
            2. aglet
              aglet 14 October 2020 09: 39
              0
              "What a talent one must have to write about something that everyone has long forgotten!"
              that's why I wrote so as not to forget, there is no one else to remind
          2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 13 October 2020 20: 53
            -9
            Quote: Karabin
            who identified the problem

            Sorry to be rude, but since when is blunt tossing yeast into a jolt considered a "problem statement"? And this is exactly what Comrade X is actually doing. A sort of alarm bell with his "How long ?? !!" But today he worked out his wretch - how the people fell for his cheapness. If I correctly understand (without pretending) the logic of harluzhnykh, then the next genre article will again be about "Stalin's just wars" or something like that. To consolidate the effect.
            1. aglet
              aglet 14 October 2020 09: 42
              0
              "look how the people were led to his cheapness"
              do you think the memory of your ancestors is cheap? about their sacrifices and victories? are you writing from the Czech Republic, sir?
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 14 October 2020 09: 59
                0
                Quote: aglet
                do you think the memory of your ancestors is cheap?

                this fuss has the same relation to memory as this monument to works of art. Stop being hypocritical. Impose its memory and his patriotism to others is ridiculous.
                The Czechs are stupid in their pettiness and illogicality - they declared, among other things, the monument not corresponding to the historical appearance of Prague, but, however, they renamed the light square with a beautiful historical name Pod Kashtanami, giving it the name of some petty, cunning Jew, just to annoy Russia. In general, all these wars with monuments in Europe and America bear the indelible traits of idiocy.
  8. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 13 October 2020 19: 22
    +1
    It is possible and necessary to punish your citizen in public, but if the “partner” is the culprit, then pragmatism is involved.
  9. 1536
    1536 13 October 2020 19: 43
    -4
    Such peoples, alas, have no future, and they prove it. Is there a new Hitler waiting to help in a new war? Well, that's unlikely. So they rage.
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 13 October 2020 20: 09
      -6
      Quote: 1536
      Such peoples, alas, have no future

      even how) The Czechs know that a certain Eugene im canceled the future?
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 13 October 2020 20: 25
      -1
      Quote: 1536
      Such peoples, alas, have no future,

      And those who leave this unanswered have a future?
  10. Charik
    Charik 13 October 2020 19: 46
    +3
    HAVE-and so ubiquitous-normal People for this-punish-and these only people can spread rot
  11. Status
    Status 13 October 2020 19: 48
    +3
    This spinelessness and amoebicity is no longer surprising, only the lazy one does not wipe his feet on us. Shredded by our rulers.
  12. deniso
    deniso 13 October 2020 20: 03
    +2
    It looks like the Czechs liked the Nazi occupation during the war.
    1. iouris
      iouris 13 October 2020 22: 11
      +2
      The Germans never occupied the Czechs. They included them in the empires and Reichs.
  13. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 13 October 2020 20: 09
    +1
    So what are the most important figures in the USSR? Stalin, Beria, Abakumov.
    Well, where are the monuments?
    Well, what have the Czechs to do with it?
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 13 October 2020 22: 11
      +4
      Quote: Old Fuck
      Well, what have the Czechs to do with it?

      Old again You are not conscious? Well, unlike our government, I know what to answer to unacceptable Czechs, and what the Germans would hear yes

      It should be noted that after the liberation of Czechoslovakia on May 9 by units of the 1st Ukrainian Front and the suppression of the last centers of resistance of the SS troops, indescribable violence against the Germans - the civilian population, including women and children - began on the part of the Czechs.
      The new authorities of the Czech Republic decided to "cleanse the Germans" from Prague, and then the whole country.
      Murders, bullying, beatings, unprovoked arrests, and rape were common.
      In a number of places, mass executions of the Germans took place.
      There is evidence that only in the first two weeks after the start of the uprising in Prague, from 35 to 40 thousand Germans were killed. The Czech Republic was engulfed in a real psychosis, provoked by the actions of the Czech leadership. The Germans were discriminated against, and then more than 3 million people were expelled from Czechoslovakia.
      1. Cherry Nine
        Cherry Nine 14 October 2020 11: 10
        +3
        Quote: Terenin
        The Czech Republic gripped a real psychosis, provoked by the actions of the Czech leadership

        Yes, this is a shame for the Czech people. Moreover, the former owners are still trying to sue the junk stolen from the Czechs. Recently, the princes of Liechtenstein began to litigate again, who were then handled by a general list for a German face. Sooner or later, restitution will be sued, this is almost inevitable.

        So the Germans know. But they try to live together.
    2. Igoresha
      Igoresha 14 October 2020 11: 11
      0
      Stalin, Beria, Abakumov.
      Beria Angls spy turned out to be and killed Abakumov and Beria was killed by Khrushchev, and even earlier ... in general, almost a biblical story of corpses
  14. Dmitry10SPb
    Dmitry10SPb 13 October 2020 20: 35
    -9
    An excursion into history? As far as I remember about this period of the war, the German army surrendered on the evening of May 8. Later, battles were fought with those who broke through to the West to surrender to the allies, and with embittered individuals and groups who did not plan to surrender. Prague, correct, if I am mistaken, was liberated by the Vlasovites, who wished to go with the "gift" to the Allies. In the hope that then they will not hand over to the communists. Konev's "liberators" fought street battles with Vlasov's "liberators". Did the Prague residents need it? Therefore, there has never been any reverence for him personally and for his monument. It is their internal affair - whether or not to demolish the monument to the "re-liberator". They offered, as I understood from the article, to take the monument to the embassy. Not taken. The "don't-forget-not-forgive" response is inappropriate.
    1. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 14 October 2020 11: 16
      +2
      Quote: Dmitry10SPb
      Prague, correct, if I am mistaken, Vlasovites liberated, who wished to go with a "gift" to the allies

      Wrong.
      The London government of Beneš is an official member of the anti-Hitler coalition, the capitulation in Reims was signed, including before Czechoslovakia. So further relations with the Wehrmacht units, strictly speaking, were already Benesh's business.

      However, the Soviet side had its own position on this issue. Unfortunately, it was supported by the American side.
  15. ZEMCH
    ZEMCH 13 October 2020 21: 11
    -4
    The vile, thief-like dismantling of the monument to its liberator, Soviet Marshal Ivan Konev in the Czech capital on April 3 this year, became not just a demonstrative desecration of the memory of all our soldiers who died during the Great Patriotic War for the liberation of such an ungrateful Europe, but also one of the most painful slaps in the face of foreign policy that Russia has received in recent years.

    Revenge is a dish that is served cold! But we are not vindictive, we are above that!
    We remember, but we forgive, our people have pity for the weak in blood, we give to the porch, we give it to the poor in the crossings, we share it with the needy! And that's right, God is their Judge!
    My grandmother always taught me:
    - give it, you will be richer!
    - help not for the sake of gratitude, but just help!
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 13 October 2020 21: 49
      -3
      What kind of pretentious game?
  16. Radikal
    Radikal 13 October 2020 21: 15
    +1
    sad
    There is no worse combination than decisive words and complete inaction afterwards. And there is no worse forced silence kept after such, because it is the shameful silence of the vanquished.

    I agree! If only Poland could be added ... A respectful state should be like this - they demolished your monuments-shrines on the territory where they stood, the answer is straight away - the demolition of their monuments! Moreover, these are mainly monuments to aggressors, or hostile, like one of the Kaczynski brothers to politicians. And sometimes not fully investigated cases, like Katynsky. When the authorities begin to adequately respond to these attacks, then they may begin. or try to respect both at home and abroad. Well, if they, in the sense of leaders, have their own trump interest, then of course ... You can sacrifice the honor of the country, but agree for yourself. Doesn't the drapery of the Mausoleum confirm this? It also confirms! And it is no longer necessary to raise these topics and discuss - this will continue for a very long time ... sad
  17. iouris
    iouris 13 October 2020 21: 17
    +1
    The Czech Republic is an "aggressive NATO bloc" and nothing else. Set fees for citizens of the Russian Federation visiting this country who have real estate there, organize a fundraiser, make Skoda make a "contribution" to the monument to Marshal Konev in Moscow and the issue is resolved.
    Can't or don't want to? Well then, do not be surprised that everyone "loves" you, but no one respects.
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 13 October 2020 21: 53
      -2
      Quote: iouris
      Set fees for Russian citizens visiting this country,

      Stop raving already. How did Kozma Prutkov say about the fountain?
      1. iouris
        iouris 13 October 2020 22: 20
        0
        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        How is Kozma Prutkov

        Three things, once started, are difficult to finish:
        a) eat good food;
        b) talk with a friend who has returned from the campaign;
        c) scratch where it itches.
        I will add: d) publish articles on the indicated topic.
  18. Petro_tut
    Petro_tut 13 October 2020 21: 28
    0
    Salt on the wound
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 13 October 2020 21: 55
      -5
      Quote: Petro_tut
      Salt on the wound

      Why did you wet the mantu?
      1. Petro_tut
        Petro_tut 13 October 2020 22: 04
        0
        Why was it a minus to sculpt?
      2. Petro_tut
        Petro_tut 13 October 2020 22: 33
        +1
        Why did you wet the mantu?

        My friend has a problem with medicine - no matter how much Mantoux does not wake up with salt, it will not add pain, salt causes a burning sensation only on open wounds, and your joke is not funny
  19. north 2
    north 2 13 October 2020 22: 04
    +4
    But what, the Czechs do not see that the ashes of the obvious pro-fascist philosopher Ilyin were transported to Russia with honors and buried? Putin even, oh, how often he quotes. And the majestic monument to Ilyin was planted out anywhere in the cemetery, but in the metropolis in the center of Yekaterinburg. As Marshal Konev looked at this, it’s just necessary to imagine ... And that the monuments to the Marshals of Victory Russia cannot be abroad
    to defend, so it cannot defend living veterans who remained abandoned in the former republics of the USSR and is part of the twenty million Russians and Russian-speaking, abandoned
    Gorbachev and Yeltsin and ended up abroad in these former republics. So there is granite
    monuments, if Russia can not defend still living ears, her faithful and believers in her. Those who fought against fascism cannot, for example, in the Baltics, on May 9, put on military uniforms with medals and orders. which and which personifies both the valor and mission of the soldiers of the liberators.
    However, about the monuments ... In Lithuania there is such a place Kryzhkalnis, It is a crossroads to Kaliningrad, Riga, Klaipeda and Kaunas. There, on a beautiful mound, there was a majestic but very aesthetic and special beauty monument in honor of the fallen Soviet soldiers who liberated the land and people from fascism. A monument without any pomp, but very tall, just a woman in a national costume stretching an oak wreath in the direction of the world, where the most fierce battles of the Second World War were going on to free the land and people from fascism and where a lot of Soviet soldiers died. So the Lithuanian authorities demolished this wonderful monument, which was visible from afar. And in its place they put a monumental complex, you know who? The so-called forest brothers, a very large part of whom served Hitler during the Second World War, were policemen, they shot Jews and partisans, and after the war they killed ordinary villagers.
    And neither a note or a formidable curse from the Russian Foreign Ministry and from Putin, nor anyone on this occasion that a monument to bandits and fascist henchmen was erected in the place of the monument to Soviet wars to the liberators, no one has heard. The monument was erected just a month ago. And how many there are still living veterans, how many Russians and Russian-speakers live. Who are they, alive, are they not abandoned by Russia, which is invisible from her
    nor any actions and the most stringent measures to pacify the reviving fascism! So wonder
    what is going on with the monument in the Czech Republic, if here near the Russian border, people go every day to Kaliningrad, and by the road there is a monument to those who served Hitler, to the place of the demolished monument to Soviet soldiers-liberators ...
    1. smel
      smel 14 October 2020 09: 34
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      I agree with your thoughts ... But first of all (before teaching someone what, where and how to do it), we need to put things in order in our house, and such an order that we ourselves would be pleased to live in our house. Only in this case they will begin to envy us, they will begin to respect us, they will begin to reckon with us. To restore order, little is needed: to raise medicine to a level that provides timely and high-quality assistance to those in need; to bring education to the level of a civilized society (then our compatriots will know history, including World War II so that they will not be ashamed to talk about it), bring the standard of living to an acceptable level; raise the culture of society .... In general, everyone knows what is needed, everyone talks about it.
      In the meantime, from abroad, unfortunately, they simply indicate our place, they say, first sort out your problems yourself, and then teach others.
      Last year I chose the time and went to the grave of my grandfather, senior lieutenant, commander of a rifle company, member of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks, who died in the 42nd, in August, in the Oryol region, Ulyanovsk region in the battle for the village of Nikitskoye (now it is Kaluga region) ... There and buried in a mass grave. This mass grave for 105 Red Army men with 72 names is a sad sight. Brickwork in 3 bricks of a common burial, 2 by 3. Obelisk in the form of a wooden pyramid, upholstered with painted iron, one meter high and crowned with a star. A sad sight and this village, once prosperous, but now abandoned. Of more than a hundred residential courtyards, 8-15 remained, depending on the time of year ... I just remembered about it ... by the way ... But I'm sure that my grandfather gave his life defending the Motherland, he could not even imagine this devastation and this collapse.
      And here we are a monument ... a monument .. Yes, it's bad that it was demolished, and even with mockery. But, apparently, at this stage of history, our country deserves just such an attitude towards itself. I would like, I really want to change this attitude for the better. But we need to achieve at least the level of patriotism, education, culture that our ancestors were at.
  20. Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 13 October 2020 22: 16
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    What to do then? They shouted and protested. All.
    Have you sued? No. Everything is legal. But here's okay, if you want to remember. May be.

    But 33 Russian private security officers from Belarus were also forgotten. So what?
    Where is the punishment promised by the media for Lukashenka? Where is the analysis of lawyers - was the law violated during the arrest?
    Where are the medical examinations - were they not beaten?
    In interviews, they beat me, and even jumped our feet. On Russian citizens. AND?

    Court? Proceedings? Notes? Apologies? Compensation?
    Nothing.

    Only articles, as gloriously dispersed by the brave patriots-law enforcers standing on the roadside with flowers by agents of the State Department. No, poland. No, lithuania. No, all the same, the State Department for 2 thousand bucks each.

    Monument to Konev? where the protection of 33 Russian citizens is ...
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 13 October 2020 22: 31
      -5
      ... Monument to Konev? where the protection of 33 Russian citizens is ...

      So ... it seems to smell like Shugalei ...
  21. Tank hard
    Tank hard 13 October 2020 22: 30
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    If monuments to Russian soldiers are being demolished in Sochi and the authorities are silent, then why be surprised? request
  22. Radikal
    Radikal 13 October 2020 23: 51
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    And another author, now a concert has begun on NTV, where they decided to congratulate the power engineers on their anniversary - the beginning is already "impressive". Unfortunately, these "organizers" know how to organize only cheap shows on the main square of the country - nothing more! sad
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  25. Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 14 October 2020 05: 32
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    In such a situation with the demolition of the monument to Marshal Konev, emotions are not the best assistant.

    There are problematic questions:
    1. So I understand that the monument to the marshal was made and installed at the expense of the municipality. The land allocated for the installation is also the property of the municipality. Therefore, the city authorities consider the monument to be their property and dispose of at their own discretion. Is that what they say?
    2. Is the monument to Marshal Konev included in the list of objects included in the "Russian-Czech agreement"? If so, what are the sanctions for the violation?
    3. The image of the marshal, the memory of his merits, is a legacy, the so-called "copyright". In this case, who is the copyright holder of such "rights", the RF Ministry of Defense or direct relatives of the marshal (for example, a daughter)?
    If yes, then you need to look at similar precedents, file a private claim against the municipality for compensation for moral damage in favor of the daughter, as well as payments for using the memory of the marshal ...
    1. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 14 October 2020 11: 29
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      Quote: Lynx2000
      So I understand that the monument to the marshal was made and installed at the expense of the municipality.

      This is a monument from 1980.
      Quote: Lynx2000
      The land allocated for the installation is also the property of the municipality

      Rounding up - yes.
      Quote: Lynx2000
      Therefore, the city authorities consider the monument as property and dispose of at their own discretion.

      Yes
      Quote: Lynx2000
      Is the monument to Marshal Konev included in the list of objects included in the "Russian-Czech agreement"?

      No. In the agreement, the speech of military graves, their list is determined by unilateral documents of the parties, which can be arbitrarily changed. Konev is currently not on the Czech list, and it’s not burial there for sure. They say that once Konev was on the list, but there is no evidence other than screenshots.
      Quote: Lynx2000
      If so, what are the penalties for the violation?

      None. Go to Czech Court.
      Quote: Lynx2000
      The image of the marshal, the memory of his merits, is a legacy, the so-called "copyright"

      Of course not. Relatives can try to prohibit the erection of the monument, but there are no options to demolish it.
      Quote: Lynx2000
      file a private claim against the municipality for compensation for non-pecuniary damage in favor of the daughter,

      To the Czech court. Nobody went there, as far as I know. And the topic of moral harm is better not to pedal, the Czechs can recall a lot on this topic.
      Quote: Lynx2000
      payments for using the memory of the marshal ...

      This, of course, is nonsense. Under such a precedent, they will simply demolish all the other monuments to Soviet leaders in Europe, how many of them still remain.
      1. Lynx2000
        Lynx2000 15 October 2020 04: 37
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        Why did I write my commentary, because in our country, according to similar precedents or in something similar, a "big bucha" rises, and nothing goes beyond words ...

        If I am not mistaken, the daughter of Marshal Konev resides in Prague. In this case, it is necessary to analyze the information about the possible violation of her rights and the judicial perspective in the form of a private claim.
        If the relatives in this case, the heirs, did not give permission for the installation of such a monument, the monument itself (according to officials) is not an object of cultural value, to establish whether the heirs have the right to receive the monument, compensating the municipality for the cost of the materials.

        The name of a famous person is the subject of inheritance, the right of his inheritance is not material and indivisible.
        Example: how to assess the situation when, without the knowledge of the heir of a famous person, the customer first publicly installs at his own expense, and then publicly dismantles, for example, sawing off the head, a part of the body, finally, takes it out to its territory, where body parts are lying in waste?

        The definition of subjective harm inflicted on the plaintiff is quite subjective, it consists of physical, psychological, moral suffering, etc.

        What do you think a person experiences seeing or knowing that let’s say the image of his grandfather (grandmother) is torn or burned?
        This, of course, is nonsense. Under such a precedent, they will simply demolish all the other monuments to Soviet leaders in Europe, how many of them still remain.

        This is a matter of ethics and education of the authorities.
        For example, if I am not mistaken, a monument to Suvorov and the Russian army was erected by the Swiss near the St. Gotthard Pass, but the question of demolition is not even raised, the land under this memorial structure was transferred to Russia.
  26. cniza
    cniza 14 October 2020 08: 33
    +1
    There is no worse combination than decisive words and complete inaction afterwards. And there is no worse forced silence kept after such, because it is the shameful silence of the vanquished.


    And we continue to swallow this "dust" from all sides ...
  27. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 14 October 2020 08: 49
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    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    How much does a person's life cost in Europe? I think at least 1 million euros? So let them multiply and scratch their heads!


    Unfortunately, these price tags do not apply to us, we are not Europeans, we are quilted jackets and should not forget about it.
    And the policy of our authorities once again turning the "other cheek" only infuses the powerful Europeans and confirms them in their own impunity and permissiveness in relation to Russia, its citizens, as well as the USSR and historical memory ...
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  30. Yuriy71
    Yuriy71 14 October 2020 12: 28
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    And somehow it doesn't surprise me. The usual story, after! The "righteous" anger is gone, that's it, you can calm down!
  31. prior
    prior 14 October 2020 14: 14
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    Marshal Konev was not defiled by the Czechs.
    Czechs are the last of the fascists, what to take from them. They only demolished the monument to Konev.
    The marshal was defiled by the Russian authorities, who did not lift a finger in order to adequately respond to the Czech rudeness.
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  33. Old Orc
    Old Orc 15 October 2020 11: 18
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    How can Russia punish Chekhov? Only economically impose sanctions. But for the current government, memory matters when it can be converted into money. if because of memory they get a loss, they will not remember anything.
  34. nnz226
    nnz226 17 October 2020 21: 20
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    Unfulfilled threats / warnings drop the value of such words to the level of verbal diarrhea ...
  35. haron
    haron 21 October 2020 16: 11
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    Two weeks ago, a regular court hearing was held to restore the monument to the marshal. Unlike the Russian side, Czechs and former USSR citizens living in the Czech Republic did not forget about the monument. However, the side of the Mayor of Prague 6 managed to quite easily postpone the resolution of this issue for several more months.
    One of the reasons was information from Russian sites and directly from this resource.
    Made it very simple.
    They calculated the percentage of clearly offensive, reactionary and unrelated to the topic of the monument, which turned out to be very large. They also formulated the general direction and meaning of these statements. The conclusions indicated that the majority of Russian citizens are not interested in the opinion of the Czechs on this issue. And a rhetorical question was asked: "For whom was this monument in Prague?"
    When discussing the issue of transferring the monument to the Marshal of Russia, such an opinion was voiced. If the Russians treat this monument in the same way as other monuments on the territory of the Russian Federation dedicated to the Great Patriotic War, then we'd better keep it at home. More than a hundred examples of the catastrophic state of these monuments on the territory of the Russian Federation were attached.
    This resource has made a lot of efforts in order to complicate the work of those who want to restore the monument to the marshal not in words.