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What are American missile defense facilities in Romania and Poland capable of: characteristics and potentials

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What are American missile defense facilities in Romania and Poland capable of: characteristics and potentials

At one time, there was a lot of information and statements in the Russian press and from Russian officials and unofficial persons about the plans and deployment of elements of the US missile defense in Romania and Poland. All measures were taken from the diplomatic arsenal of means of influencing the leaders and politicians of both the NATO bloc and the aforementioned countries, everything was put into action, including ultimatums and direct threats to take retaliatory measures of a military nature in the event of the deployment of American missile defense missiles in Europe. Russia even promised to withdraw from the INF Treaty. And it came out informally by creating a banned cruise missile "Caliber".


Despite assurances from Western leaders that the American missile defense system in Europe is not directed against Russia, President Putin remained unconvinced: American missiles in Romania and Poland pose a threat to Russia's strategic security and threaten its nuclear missile shield. Iskander missile systems were deployed in the Kaliningrad region, capable of striking American systems and other targets in Europe.

In spite of everything, Romania in 2016 placed on its territory a stationary missile defense system Aegis Ashore with American interceptors of RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 (SM-3) missiles. In total, since 2015, 3 batteries of 8 SM-3 Block IB missiles have been deployed at the Deveselu military base.



These complexes are designed to intercept intercontinental ballistic missiles and warheads at transatmospheric altitudes and at long range. The exact characteristics of the complexes are classified. But judging by what is in open sources, then, for example, Block IIA modifications have a maximum range of 2500 km, and an altitude of up to 1500 km. Rocket speed up to 5 km / sec. In theory, this makes it possible to hit ICBMs on a collision course, which is what these missiles are intended for. It is also stated that the missiles located in Romania can also hit maneuvering targets. Tests have confirmed this, although there have been mistakes. But catching up will not work.

Last year, the complex underwent technical work and modernization. Obviously, in order to increase the combat effectiveness of missiles in terms of range, the probability of intercepting ICBMs, and determining false targets. What appeared there after modernization, only Americans know. But we can assume that new SM-3 Block IIB missiles have appeared with improved characteristics in all parameters. For the period of work, THAAD missile defense systems were deployed to Romania. This is a complex of territorial missile defense. It is designed for high-altitude interception of medium and short-range missiles, but not ICBMs. And even against our OTC "Iskander" TNAAD is considered ineffective weapons... So their placement is a temporary measure. But the rapid transfer from the US territory and the deployment of this complex showed that, if necessary, the missile defense system in the European theater of operations can be very quickly strengthened.

Poland is working on the preparation of infrastructure for the deployment of elements of the American theater missile defense, similar to those deployed in Romania.

The total number of missiles deployed in Europe is still only 24 in Romania, and one cannot speak of a serious threat to Russia. I don’t think that this missile defense was originally intended against Russian missiles. But today is meant. After all, it should be borne in mind that, in addition to ground complexes, the same missile defense systems are located on ships. There are more than 30 destroyers alone. Plus URO cruisers. And this is already hundreds of missiles.

According to the official statements of American politicians and the military, the NATO leadership at the time of the decision, the purpose of the deployed missile defense systems, or, as the Americans themselves call them, missile defense position areas, is to repel possible missile strikes from Iran and North Korea both in Europe and by the USA itself. It didn’t exist then, but in the future, according to the Americans, these countries could have ballistic missiles of the required range. And they, I must admit, looked into the water: the DPRK, according to various sources, already has such a rocket, and even in a mobile version on an 11-axle chassis, and it was shown at a military parade in Pyongyang that took place the other day. Iran may well have, given the friendship and military-technical cooperation of the two countries and their common anti-American vector in foreign policy, and missiles and nuclear weapons, which Kim Jong-un already has. So the once purely hypothetical threats have come true.

In connection with the emergence of Russia and its deployment of medium-range cruise and ballistic missiles in the Kaliningrad region and, most likely, in Belarus, given the current rapprochement with Lukashenka and his anti-NATO rhetoric after the last elections, it is easy to assume that missile defense systems in combination with air defense systems The Patriots, which Poland intends to purchase and deploy at home, can also be used to repel Russian missile attacks from both directions. The statements of the Polish leadership say the same thing.

And in view of the continuing deterioration of relations between the West and the United States, the predictions and indignation of Russian politicians, military and experts regarding the fact that American missile defense systems in Romania and Poland can be used to combat Russian missiles, both medium-range and intercontinental, are coming true. Moreover, President Trump in January 2019, presenting an updated strategy for the development of the US missile defense system, said that "the latest Russian developments challenge the existing defense systems" of America and called Russia a rival along with China, Iran and the DPRK. And he spoke about the need to create means of intercepting enemy missiles, and, therefore, ours too, "at all stages of flight." But even today's technical characteristics of missiles and systems make it possible to do this.

Difficulties can be with the defeat of hypersonic missiles. But progress does not stand still, new modifications or completely different missiles will be created that will allow hitting new hypersonic missiles. By the way. Trump recently again boasted of the military-industrial complex's successes in building a very fast rocket. Too little time to react in case of impact? They will deliver a preemptive strike in the event of a threat and disable our electronic warfare, reconnaissance and target designation and communications systems. And create their own, appropriate and capable of opposing ours. Plus, the United States already has a deeply echeloned missile defense system capable of hitting any targets at any height and range. To facilitate tasks, they bring their complexes closer to our strike assets.

It is not excluded that these missile defense facilities can be used to neutralize our missile defense system in the Moscow region as a cover for their missiles in the event of a strike on Russia.

A separate topic, but our people are talking a lot about it: under the cover of deploying its defenses against missiles, the United States can deploy Tomahawk-class cruise missiles. Universal vertical launchers Mk 41 can do this. And the missile defense systems themselves serve as a cover for cruise missiles from a possible strike on them. But I think the circuit is too complicated for such a scenario. Today, after the US withdrawn from the INF Treaty and the restrictions associated with it, the Americans can simply deploy the same Tomahawks, or any other missiles, completely openly, without hiding or disguising them as missile defense missiles. In addition, they have a large arsenal of these "Tomahawks" on ships that are regularly present in the Black and other seas in the immediate vicinity of our borders. One Arley Burke-class destroyer can carry up to 90 cruise missiles. The only problem is obtaining permission for this from the leadership of the countries where they would like to have their missile bases.

And the opinion, objections and fears of Russia in this case do not interest them. Although on the eve of Trump announced his readiness to sign a new agreement with Russia on a certain nuclear deal. He has not politics, but solid deals. Perhaps, as part of the negotiations on this deal, negotiations are underway regarding the American missile defense system in Poland and Romania. But my forecast on this score is that the United States will not make any concessions. So these two missile defense areas will be fully completed and equipped with the necessary equipment and weapons. And their ability to intercept targets will only increase constantly.

Moreover, I do not exclude the appearance of a third missile defense position area. I think it will be deployed in Norway. Just near the main bases of our Northern fleet - and thus they will try to deprive him of the opportunity to strike with missiles of our SSBNs directly "from the pier."
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  1. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 13 October 2020 12: 06
    0
    But my forecast on this score is that the United States will not make any concessions.
    .... What were the doubts? smile
  2. dimz
    dimz 13 October 2020 12: 17
    -1
    The number of nuclear warheads seems to be available on the internet. How much missile defense can you catch? What is the essence of this?
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 13 October 2020 12: 45
      -5
      I think it will be deployed in Norway. Just near the main bases of our Northern Fleet - and thus they will try to deprive it of the opportunity to strike with missiles of our SSBNs directly "from the pier."
      I am absolutely sure of this, the Northern bases, the most dangerous and combat-ready, and the Americans, will certainly bring the "loop of anaconda" to the point where it was planned. The Baltic is almost not counted, they will lock it tightly, our Navy will not shine there. The Pacific Fleet is far away. everything seems to be not very foldable. Putin's "cartoons" no one was scared, "zircons" and then, in a sufficient number of years in a few years. the situation is so-so.
      1. Machito
        Machito 13 October 2020 13: 08
        +4
        The SM-3 missiles deployed in Poland and Romania do not enhance the American missile defense in any way, because they are not even close to the flight path of our missiles for a nuclear strike against the United States. But the covert deployment of attack cruise missiles there enhances the US strike potential, as Putin said. In order to hit our strategic missiles on takeoff, the United States needs a base at the North Pole, but the pole is still ours. The hegemon has no icebreakers.
        1. Pashhenko Nikolay
          Pashhenko Nikolay 13 October 2020 15: 50
          0
          Well, among other things, the radar in Romania has the function of over-the-horizon view of the launch of ballistic missiles. And if they are installed in Poland, then in general the European part will be at a glance.
        2. Nazar
          Nazar 13 October 2020 17: 36
          0
          Bearded man - you wrote everything correctly, not only are they not located there to work as missile defense, but also their missile defense itself works like this - during control firing, the ABM calculation knows the time and flight trajectory of the target in advance, and even on the target there is a "beacon" but even under such conditions, the percentage of hits is low. Confirmation of this - launches of North Korean missiles - full of US destroyers with dozens of "interceptor missiles" on board each and to shoot down at least one of the primitive missiles of the DPRK - no way, the insidious Kim did not put beacons on his missiles wink ... there is no sense in such a missile defense system, for the same installations work perfectly when launching shock missile launchers. An example - for the same Syria - a massive strike from destroyers, and in Romania and in Poland the launchers are the same as on ships.
          1. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
            Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 15 October 2020 21: 05
            0
            > during control fires, the ABM calculation knows the time and trajectory of the target in advance, and even on the target there is a "beacon", but even under such conditions the percentage of hits is low

            lovers of conditional defeats of conditional targets are immediately visible
  3. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 13 October 2020 12: 19
    0
    The main thing they are capable of is to draw a target on the territory of Romania and Poland. Well, in the event of a War - to turn these countries into a radioactive desert.
    1. kris_67
      kris_67 13 October 2020 15: 11
      -2
      "turn these countries into a radioactive desert" - are you not a relative of Kiselev?
  4. Vladislav Demchenko
    Vladislav Demchenko 13 October 2020 12: 27
    +7
    The article is complete nonsense, especially the information that the SM-3 Block IB can intercept ICBMs, and the nonsense about the SM-3 Block IIB that has never been tested!
    1. Tom Johnson
      Tom Johnson 13 October 2020 17: 29
      -1
      SM-3 Block II with Conventional Prompt Strike already exists it was launched from a Virginia Class in October 2017. It was based on SM-3 Block I. The new missile is a very capable upgrade, and it is now in production. This is the missile that Putin was complaining about back in 2015. Hypersonic with a range of 2500 km and a CEP of 30 meters. Submarine development was "not prohibited" by the INF Treaty.
  5. Errr
    Errr 13 October 2020 12: 29
    +4
    From the article:
    Russia even promised to withdraw from the INF Treaty. And she went out informally by creating a banned cruise missile "Caliber".
    In accordance with the provisions of the INF Treaty, not "Caliber" is banned, but its ground deployment.
    For the first time in history, the treaty made it possible to eliminate an entire class of weapons: the parties pledged to destroy all systems of ground-based ballistic and cruise missiles of medium (1000 — 5500 km) and shorter (from 500 to 1000 km) rangesand not to manufacture, test or deploy such missiles in the future. In accordance with the Agreement, the parties within three years were to destroy all launchers and ground-based missiles with a range of 500 to 5500 kilometers, including missiles on both European and Asian territories of the USSR.
    A source: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Договор_о_ликвидации_ракет_средней_и_меньшей_дальности
  6. An64
    An64 13 October 2020 12: 34
    -2
    In my opinion, a pretty sober assessment. Especially with regard to the ability of the SM-3 to intercept ICBMs and load into the ground Mk41 "Tomahawks" instead of the SM-3.
    I will correct, somehow we have already forgotten that the ultimatum to the West regarding the deployment of missile defense facilities in Europe was made not by the BB, but by Dmitry Anatolyevich in his statement on missile defense on November 23, 2011. After this statement, the Iskanders went to Kailiningrad and entered the combat strength of the warning radar.
  7. fn34440
    fn34440 13 October 2020 12: 37
    +4
    The Americans are setting up Europe. They think everything will be decided by someone else's hands, on someone else's territory, for someone else's money (for example, Poland). They were in 1941-45. they did everything on foreign lands, by someone else's hands, simultaneously appropriating Victory for themselves.
    And in the Victory over ISIS, the same component.
    1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 13 October 2020 13: 42
      +2
      Quote: fn34440
      They think everything will be solved by someone else's hands

      Well done, right? Well, in terms of benefits for their own state.
      But those whom they substitute, from the point of view of their states, should be called exclusively profanity. But the population of these states will come to such a simple idea only when it is too late.
  8. betta
    betta 13 October 2020 12: 38
    +1
    How many Machs is 5 km / s?
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 13 October 2020 12: 51
      +1
      1 max ~ 340 m / s, that is, about 1200 km / h (depends on various factors, temperature, altitude, etc.). It turns out about 15 swings.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 13 October 2020 12: 55
      -1
      Quote: betta
      How many Machs is 5 km / s?

      14.70588235294 M
      There is a calculator site for Mach lovers:
      https://allcalc.ru/converter/mach-speed-kilometers-hour
      hi
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 13 October 2020 13: 30
        +1
        Quote: ROSS 42
        for Mach lovers:

        This is not a matter of Mach's lovers, but of common sense.
        This speed has not been confirmed by anyone, this is speculation. If this is the maximum developed speed - then back and forth, if the average on the route - then doubts already arise, since similar speeds have not yet been achieved by any other serial products from the same USA.
    3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 13 October 2020 12: 57
      +1
      Quote: betta
      How many Machs is 5 km / s?

      15
      Typical passages:
      Missile defense capable of hitting any targets at any height and range

      today's technical characteristics of missiles and systems allow this to be done

      The author, for sure, also carefully calculated, before carrying it to the masses. Why not believe him a word?
  9. Doccor18
    Doccor18 13 October 2020 13: 00
    0
    The number of interceptor missiles is insignificant and it is not possible to influence the course of war, but even a separate operation. However, launchers and radar stations have ... The infrastructure is there, the states have resigned themselves, the leadership of the vassals is behaving as it should. And the number of launch cups can be increased at any time ...
    ... thus, they will try to deprive him of the opportunity to strike with missiles of our SSBNs directly "from the pier."

    AUTHOR:

    This is doubtful.
    And if so, it is more convenient from ships. You can come closer.
    ..Moreover, I do not exclude the appearance of a third missile defense position area. I think it will be deployed in Norway.

    You need to react to all this harshly and very clearly ... there is no time for concerns ...
  10. Operator
    Operator 13 October 2020 13: 20
    -2
    American interceptor missiles in Poland and Romania threaten only our ICBMs based in the European part of the country, and then only in the active section of the trajectory. The American threat is countered simply by a leading launch of a pair of Iskander missiles towards the missile bases, detonating their special warheads in the upper layers of the atmosphere and generating EMP, jamming all NATO missile defense radars in this region without exception.

    The same applies to NATO ships in the North and Barents Seas, precipitating with all their Aegis exactly during the flight over them of Russian ICBMs and SLBMs.

    The real threat from American missile bases in Poland and Romania comes only if nuclear warheads are deployed on missiles and used to destroy Russian control centers with a flight time of less than 5 minutes. Therefore, we need to build up the Iskander and Zircon grouping in the European part of the country with flight times to targets in Poland, Germany, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria within the same 5 minutes.
    1. Tom Johnson
      Tom Johnson 14 October 2020 03: 54
      -2
      We see everything, we will see the launch and shoot back before the ISKANDER crosses the horizon. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=SBIRS&&view=detail&mid=25B9FB3B2D6FB7DD636925B9FB3B2D6FB7DD6369&FORM&FORM=VRDGAR> alone. Aegis Ashore in Poland will receive the new SM-2 Block II interceptor. The SM-2 Block II is the same missile that the US Nave tested Prompt Global Strike back in October 3.
      1. Operator
        Operator 14 October 2020 08: 47
        -1
        How will you shoot down the Iskander in the active leg of the trajectory before it rises out of the atmosphere to a height of 130 km above the Earth (where the IC seeker of the SM-3 Block II anti-missile missile interceptor begins to operate) - by the power of thought? laughing

        The optimal height of detonation of the leading missile with a thermonuclear warhead will be 129 km with an EMP destruction radius of 1000 km. The explosion power of a 700-kg warhead will exceed 1 Mtn.
        1. Operator
          Operator 14 October 2020 11: 39
          -1
          Correction: EMP radius - 2000 km, weight of a three-stage thermonuclear megaton warhead - 480 kg.
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 13 October 2020 13: 33
    +3
    How can these objects be characterized ???
    "objects of the first priority DESTRUCTION" !!!
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 13 October 2020 17: 06
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      How can these objects be characterized ???
      Priority Goals, and destroy after all.
      In general, the Americans are great: they understand perfectly well that conventional weapons cannot be taken by the Russian Federation and it is necessary to try to divert attention ... from their territory. And what will happen to their amerovskoy "allies" / terpily - amers do not care at all.
      It is surprising that the fate of their own territories does not bother Romanians / Poles and Balts - they will be multiplied by 0 as
      Quote: rocket757
      "objects of the first priority DESTRUCTION" !!!

      Although I think with big pile it won't matter anymore, which is sad
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 13 October 2020 17: 28
        +1
        That's all right. About the "care" of minke whales about the ally and about the big one!
        Although, there were arguments about a small sacrifice that big, vigorous uncles can throw, Schaub did not climb among themselves!
        I don’t know, I don’t know .... although, everyone will think about their skin first of all, it has always been so.
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 13 October 2020 18: 07
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          there were arguments about a small sacrifice that big, vigorous uncles can throw ..

          Big vigorous uncles have enough nuclear weapons for the whole world more than once - not one "good" deed will not go unpunished
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 13 October 2020 18: 28
            +1
            You can't forget ... not everyone can turn off the brain.
  12. ZEMCH
    ZEMCH 13 October 2020 14: 31
    +3
    And it came out informally, creating the banned cruise missile "Caliber".

    The caliber did not fall under the influence of the RIAC. ship-based))
    for example, Block IIA modifications have a maximum range of 2500 km and an altitude of up to 1500 km.

    Are you sure you were right with the numbers?
    Plus, the United States already has a deeply echeloned missile defense system capable of hitting any targets at any height and range.

    Does the USA know about this?
    In general, I did not like the article,
  13. Same lech
    Same lech 13 October 2020 14: 41
    +1
    I don’t think that originally this missile defense was really intended against Russian missiles. But today is meant.

    Well, you must have holy naivete ... initially, the US missile defense was directed against Russia.
  14. Alien From
    Alien From 13 October 2020 15: 05
    +1
    Amer missiles from the gentlemen are capable of targeting charges from the Yabch.
  15. Hagen
    Hagen 13 October 2020 15: 15
    +1
    And the opinion, objections and fears of Russia in this case do not interest them.

    Is not a fact. Putin promised to respond in Syria, including on delivery vehicles, and not a single missile arrived at the locations of our military in Syria. And here it has already been said more than once that the response will also fly to the decision-making centers (they should still know what we mean by this term laughing ). So no matter how the author tries, I'm not going to jump from the balcony for fear wassat .
    They will deliver a preemptive strike in the event of a threat and disable our electronic warfare, reconnaissance and target designation and communications systems. And create our own, appropriate and capable of opposing ours.

    Russia will also "create its own, appropriate and capable of counteracting" theirs. This is how we live all past history after 1945. And every time at every stage of our confrontation there is some "oracle" trying to convince us that we need to surrender to the enemy and resistance is useless. But we, for some reason, are alive, despite all the hardships, cuts, theft, threats due to ..., well, etc.
  16. iouris
    iouris 13 October 2020 15: 33
    -2
    Defense scientists must test the method of splitting the Earth into two hemispheres.
  17. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2020 20: 01
    +1
    Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
    Well, among other things, the radar in Romania has the function of over-the-horizon view of the launch of ballistic missiles. And if they are installed in Poland, then in general the European part will be at a glance.

    Why would an over-the-horizon radar stand in Romania? Standard Aegis radar. Detection range, EMNIP 700 km

    Quote: An64
    In my opinion, a pretty sober assessment. Especially with regard to the ability of the SM-3 to intercept ICBMs and load into the ground Mk41 "Tomahawks" instead of the SM-3.

    A sober assessment of the interception capability of the "Standards" SM-3 block IIA ICBMs? This is not a sober, but a delusional assessment. The Americans planned to lay the ability to intercept ICBMs in the "Standard" SM-3 block IIВ. But this anti-missile did not begin to be developed and was NEVER tested.

    It is technically possible to load Tomahawks into these missile defense systems instead of Standards, but in Romania the deployment of Tomahawks does not make sense at all. They do not finish off the territory of Russia. And it is stupid to put subsonic strike missiles in a stationary complex covered by Iskander before these bases shoot the entire Tomahawk spacecraft. The Romanian missile defense system, in principle, can only intercept Iranian missiles, covering NATO's southern flank. The Polish can cover northern Europe, but Iran is unlikely to be able to have missiles with such a range and in marketable quantities in the coming years

    Quote: ZEMCH

    Quote: For example, Block IIA modifications have a maximum range of 2500 km and an altitude of up to 1500 km.
    Are you sure you were right with the numbers?

    Comrade was not mistaken. It is the range - 2500 km, the altitude reach of 1500 km, the speed of the interceptor missile - 14,7M

    Quote: ZEMCH

    Quote: Plus, the United States already has a deeply echeloned missile defense system capable of hitting any targets at any height and range.

    Does the USA know about this?
    In general, I did not like the article,

    The United States does not have a deeply echeloned missile defense system. In fact, they have one normal missile defense position area with 44 long-range interceptors in Alaska. The Americans have few THAADs to make up the second echelon. So neither the United States, nor Russia, nor China have an in-depth missile defense defense.

    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Well, you must have holy naivete ... initially, the US missile defense was directed against Russia.

    European? And which of the Russian strategic missiles can it intercept?

    Quote: Operator
    American interceptor missiles in Poland and Romania threaten only our ICBMs based in the European part of the country, and then only in the active section of the trajectory. The American threat is countered simply by a leading launch of a pair of Iskander missiles towards the missile bases, detonating their special warheads in the upper layers of the atmosphere and generating EMP, jamming all NATO missile defense radars in this region without exception.

    And along with its own radars. And what missiles, from what bases are the Polish "Standards" able to intercept?
    1. iouris
      iouris 13 October 2020 21: 21
      -2
      Quote: Old26
      from what bases are the Polish "Standards" able to intercept?

      The USSR disappeared, but the missiles did not have to be intercepted. The "dead hand" is dead.
    2. Operator
      Operator 13 October 2020 22: 44
      -1
      What a radar for us after the beginning of a global nuclear conflict? laughing

      SM-3 Block IIA from these bases of ours in the European part of the Russian Federation (of course, after lifting the launch vehicles to an altitude of at least 130 km to ensure the operability of the IC seeker of kinetic interceptors)

    3. Errr
      Errr 13 October 2020 23: 09
      0
      Quote: Old26
      Technically, it is possible to load Tomahawks into these missile defense systems instead of Standards, but in Romania the deployment of Tomahawks does not make sense at all. They do not finish off the territory of Russia.
      The Americans have already reincarnated in a new incarnation of BGM-109G. This from Romania will reach all the way to the Urals.
  18. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2020 21: 32
    +3
    Quote: iouris
    The "dead hand" is dead.

    Alive and healthy. Rumor has it that they plan to replace the existing command missiles "Sirena" with new ones
  19. Errr
    Errr 13 October 2020 22: 21
    +1
    From the article:
    ... Romania in 2016 placed on its territory a stationary missile defense system Aegis Ashore with American missile interceptors of the RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 (SM-3) type. In total, since 2015, 3 batteries of 8 SM-3 Block IB missiles have been deployed at the Deveselu military base.
    These complexes are designed to intercept intercontinental ballistic missiles and warheads at transatmospheric altitudes and at long range. The exact characteristics of the complexes are classified.
    Well, of course, they are classified. laughing
    But:
    Anti-missiles "Standard-3" mod.1B and mod. 2A, have the following main performance characteristics, respectively: maximum interception range (500 and 1000 km); maximum interception height (60-250 and 70-500 km); the maximum flight speed of the anti-missile (up to 3,5 and up to 5 km / sec).
    A source: https://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/reports/view/134316/
    And by this - the conclusion. From the Polish and Romanian "Ticonderogs" they are most likely going to shoot with the newest "Tomahawks" and, very likely, with vigorous warheads of low power.
    1. Tom Johnson
      Tom Johnson 14 October 2020 04: 01
      -1
      SM-3 Block II will be installed in Poland, Block II is the same missile that the Virginia Class III and IV boats have been shooting their Hypersonic "Prompt Global Strike (PGS)" missiles from since October 2017. I bet you did not know that!
      1. Errr
        Errr 14 October 2020 05: 33
        0
        Moreover. I'm even sure that I didn't know that! laughing
  20. Old26
    Old26 13 October 2020 23: 23
    +2
    Quote: Herrr
    The Americans have already reincarnated in a new incarnation of BGM-109G. This from Romania will reach all the way to the Urals.

    Can I have a link to reincarnation?
    And of course, no one will prevent her from flying over the territories of Russia packed with anti-aircraft complexes.

    Quote: Herrr
    rotivovarkets "Standard-3" mod.1B and mod. 2A, have the following main performance characteristics, respectively: maximum interception range (500 and 1000 km); maximum interception height (60-250 and 70-500 km); the maximum flight speed of the anti-missile (up to 3,5 and up to 5 km / sec).
    Source: https://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/reports/view/134316/
    And by this - the conclusion. From the Polish and Romanian "Ticonderogs" they are most likely going to shoot with the newest "Tomahawks" and, very likely, with vigorous warheads of low power.

    Range data for Block 2A does not correspond to reality. The given resource very often sins with blunders and you cannot trust it at 00%. In romania, it is already almost 5 years that Block 2A has been installed, which replaced the previous modification
    And I beg your pardon, but how, based on the performance characteristics of interceptor missiles, do you conclude that there will be "tomahawks"?
    1. Errr
      Errr 14 October 2020 00: 11
      0
      There is already a Tomahawk Block Va, designation RGM-109E / UGM-109E. Look at https://topwar.ru/168746-korpus-morskoj-pehoty-ssha-vooruzhaetsja-kr-tomahawk-nazemnogo-bazirovanija.html... This one still flies 1800 km, but what will prevent its modification from giving up over time all 2500 km like their common predecessor, tattered in accordance with the letter of the INF Treaty?
      Quote: Old26
      And of course, no one will prevent her from flying over the territories of Russia packed with anti-aircraft complexes.
      Of course, they will interfere, but doing this is 100% problematic. Here, as they say, you have to work with the carriers.
      And as for the conclusion that not interceptors at all will be installed in Mk.41 in Romania and Poland, it is elementary, given their (SM-3) performance characteristics and the trajectory of Russian ballistic missiles when delivering a retaliatory strike against targets in North America ... There were no collision courses when attempting to intercept from Deveselu and Redzikovo, and never will. You already comrade The operator (Andrey) illustrated this well.
  21. Tom Johnson
    Tom Johnson 14 October 2020 03: 50
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    FTM-44 is scheduled for FY20-Q3
  22. Valentin Tveryakov
    Valentin Tveryakov 14 October 2020 07: 03
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    Nobody knows what kind of missile defense the United States has, except for them, but these countries will receive 50 Mega-tons each and it is possible that they will be remembered in the States at Sunday prayer, if it can take place, because it is already thousands of Chernobyls.
  23. Old26
    Old26 14 October 2020 10: 18
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    Quote: Herrr
    There is already a Tomahawk Block Va, designation RGM-109E / UGM-109E. Look at https://topwar.ru/168746-korpus-morskoj-pehoty-ssha-vooruzhaetsja-kr-tomahawk-nazemnogo-bazirovanija.html. This one still flies 1800 km, but what will prevent its modification from giving up all 2500 km over time as their common predecessor, tattered in accordance with the letter of the INF Treaty?

    So there is still no such CD that would be an analogue of "Griffon". What's in the way? So far, nothing, but there are still NO missiles from this range. This is the same as now talking about the Caliber-M with a range of 4000 km, the Onyx-M with a range of 800 km, the Zircon with a range of 1500 km, which are spoken of as a prospect, despite that there are no such missiles in this reality yet

    Quote: Herrr
    And as for the conclusion that not interceptors at all will be installed in Mk.41 in Romania and Poland, it is elementary, given their (SM-3) performance characteristics and the trajectory of Russian ballistic missiles when delivering a retaliatory strike against targets in North America ... There were no collision courses when attempting to intercept from Deveselu and Redzikovo, and never will. You already comrade The operator (Andrey) illustrated this well.

    I would advise you to search the net for a presentation by Theodor Postol around 2008-2009. This is an American missile defense specialist. There, it is just illustrated what and how could happen, if a positional area with American GBIs was deployed in Poland, and not with Standard SM-3.

    Taking into account the fact that GBI's speed is one and a half times higher than that of "Standard". and the range of destruction is twice as large, this interceptor could only intercept the Russian Topol (as the fastest ICBM) when launched from the Volga region in the direction to the West over Iceland. Starting from the Volga and Ural regions, the Russian SS-18 and SS-19, this interceptor could only over Scandinavia. And this despite the fact that a radar was to be deployed west of Prague, several times superior to the standard radar of the Aegis Ashor system.
    And take it yourself and calculate, for your own pleasure, where and when the radars from Redzikovo will detect the BG of the same "Poplar" or "Topol-M" and how long it will take. Taking into account the speeds of ICBMs and interceptors.
    To place the currently existing "tomahawks" in Deveselu is to waste money. Existing now, except for the Crimea, nothing will be able to hit. And whether at least one "tomahawk" out of 24 will be able to fly to the Crimea with the saturation of the air defense that is there - I think it is not required
  24. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 15 October 2020 17: 14
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    Quote: Tom Johnson
    SM-3 Block II with Conventional Prompt Strike already exists it was launched from a Virginia Class in October 2017. It was based on SM-3 Block I. The new missile is a very capable upgrade, and it is now in production. This is the missile that Putin was complaining about back in 2015. Hypersonic with a range of 2500 km and a CEP of 30 meters. Submarine development was "not prohibited" by the INF Treaty.


    Exactly.
    But you will probably be "piled on" cons for this quote.
    If the Americans wanted to scare them, they would not be so overshadowed by the installation of radars at the Pshek and in Romania.

    Well, they lay around us like experienced bear hunters.
    The resources of frigates with missile defense are supplemented by ground-based complexes with over-the-horizon radars.
    And the number of new interceptors may increase - they are not subject to sanctions.

    We need to help them (USA) feel in our shoes.
    To supply Iran with Iskanders, S400 (in opposition to Israel, the favorite toy of the United States), and help the narrow-eyed brothers from the DPRK is even more impressive.
    In the end, bring up their ICBMs at least to the level of the RS12M.
    And three or four SSBNs for rent (but with an ICBM) will greatly help the Americans to fully feel our worries.
  25. voronin
    voronin 22 October 2020 19: 43
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    How can analysis be done if characteristics are unknown?