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Armenian Defense Ministry: Azerbaijan Air Force Su-25 shot down over Karabakh

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Armenian Defense Ministry: Azerbaijan Air Force Su-25 shot down over Karabakh

Air defense units of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (Artsakh) shot down an Azerbaijani Su-25 attack aircraft. The Ministry of Defense of Armenia reports this.


Under the cover of Turkish F-16s, Azerbaijan is reportedly using an assault Aviation along the entire line of contact, the air defense forces of the Karabakh defense army shot down one Su-25 of the Azerbaijani air force.

According to the Armenian military department, the attack aircraft destroyed on Monday became the 18th aircraft of the Azerbaijani Air Force, lost since the beginning of hostilities in the Karabakh conflict zone.



Air defense units of the Artsakh Defense Army shot down one Su-25 enemy unit in the northeastern direction

- said the press secretary of the Ministry of Defense of Armenia Shushan Stepanyan.

In turn, the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan denies the report about the downed Su-25 attack aircraft.

The message of the Armenian Defense Ministry about the allegedly another "shot down" Azerbaijani Su-25 attack aircraft is a blatant lie of despair. Combat aviation of Azerbaijan is not used, and we fully adhere to the requirement of a humanitarian truce

- the statement of the head of the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, Colonel Vagif Dargahli, is given.

Recall that the humanitarian truce agreement entered into force at 12:00 on October 10, 2020. Despite the agreements reached, the parties continue to conduct hostilities, blaming each other for this and at the same time demonstrating combat personnel.
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  1. Pshelts
    Pshelts 12 October 2020 16: 26
    +3
    Well here's one one ..! What's next ? Something doesn’t smell like a truce ..
    1. MTN
      MTN 12 October 2020 16: 29
      -26 qualifying.
      The message of the Armenian Defense Ministry about the allegedly another "shot down" Azerbaijani Su-25 attack aircraft is a blatant lie of despair. Colonel Vagif Dargahli, head of the press service of the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry, told the journalists.
      "Combat aviation is not used by Azerbaijan, and we fully adhere to the requirements of a humanitarian truce," he said.
      1. nnm
        nnm 12 October 2020 16: 41
        15
        Still would. It's not like publishing videos of your blows.
        1. imobile2008
          imobile2008 12 October 2020 16: 59
          +6
          The Armenians have completely lost the information war. Could show video of destruction or debris. It would have such an effect that it was necessary to make every effort.
          1. nnm
            nnm 12 October 2020 17: 01
            12
            But in fact .... why? In the world, everyone is indifferent to this conflict - nothing is needed to prove that they are right. Only for domestic consumption if .... So, it seems, the Armenians are already motivated.
            And at least show your victories, at least don't show them - the result in reality does not depend on it.
            1. imobile2008
              imobile2008 12 October 2020 17: 05
              -9
              the result depends on more than half, even Goebbels knew this
              1. nnm
                nnm 12 October 2020 17: 05
                17
                And how is he doing, may I ask? But until the last day he was filled with such a nightingale ...
                Success lies in the will to victory, the unity of the people and the army, in the correctness of the goals of the war, in the training and equipment of the army, in the resources, in the competent commanders, etc.
                1. imobile2008
                  imobile2008 12 October 2020 17: 08
                  -24 qualifying.
                  If we had lost the information war at 45, there would have been no victory
                  1. nnm
                    nnm 12 October 2020 17: 13
                    23
                    Absolutely nothing would have changed. Absolutely nothing. The allies thought after the defense of Moscow, began to scratch their turnips after Stalingrad and were afraid to be late after Kursk .... it is the deeds, the facts that determine everything. Or that, after Stalingrad, Goebbels broke down? Not at all. Or did the 41 Sovinformburo not try to raise their spirits? All of this was constant and had absolutely no decisive influence. Only a right-wing war, only the tension of the forces of the rear and the heroism of the soldiers! Only the concentration of all the forces of the country! And Azerbaijan can flood as much as you like (like any other country) - a fact on operational maps, and they are not at all so rosy.
                    1. Imobile
                      Imobile 10 November 2020 23: 37
                      -2
                      It's funny to read your comments gentlemen, the level of vision of the situation ... not. Deal with errors, and just get into milk :)
                2. Vol4ara
                  Vol4ara 12 October 2020 20: 32
                  -4
                  Quote: nnm
                  And how is he doing, may I ask? But until the last day he was filled with such a nightingale ...
                  Success lies in the will to victory, the unity of the people and the army, in the correctness of the goals of the war, in the training and equipment of the army, in the resources, in the competent commanders, etc.

                  The successes are such that they lost at 45 and not at 42, these are the results
                  1. nnm
                    nnm 13 October 2020 07: 16
                    +1
                    And this is thanks to Goebbels and his "science", are you serious ?!
                    1. Vol4ara
                      Vol4ara 13 October 2020 09: 13
                      -1
                      Quote: nnm
                      And this is thanks to Goebbels and his "science", are you serious ?!

                      Prove the opposite, prove that propaganda is nothing more than self-indulgence
            2. Alena-Baku
              Alena-Baku 12 October 2020 21: 25
              +9

              In fact, the photo shows Ganja Azerbaijan. Impudence without borders and venality of journalists. Do not tell me how to hide your crimes, they are soft and fluffy and the neighbors let them live.
              1. Oquzyurd
                Oquzyurd 12 October 2020 22: 12
                +5
                What kind of Kardashian one should be, so that the destroyed house in Ganja from the Armenian Elbrus ballistic missile is presented as a house in Stepnakert (Khankendi) These barbarians have no droplets of conscience or shame.
                1. neri73-r
                  neri73-r 14 October 2020 10: 52
                  +1
                  Quote: Alena-Baku
                  In fact, the photo shows Ganja Azerbaijan. Impudence without borders and venality of journalists. Do not tell me how to hide your crimes, they are soft and fluffy and the neighbors let them live.

                  Quote: Oquzyurd
                  What kind of Kardashian one should be, so that the destroyed house in Ganja from the Armenian Elbrus ballistic missile is presented as a house in Stepnakert (Khankendi) These barbarians have no droplets of conscience or shame.

                  Unfortunately, there are barbarians in certain cases from both sides! Some are no better than others, nationalism, bordering on Nazism and fascism, is disgusting for any nation.
            3. Nikanet
              Nikanet 13 October 2020 07: 15
              -4
              Motivated?))) The highest degree of motivation! wink

          2. elai
            elai 13 October 2020 05: 32
            +1
            they don't have phones ... what do you have to do on each bomb, a camera, in each priest a sensor)
          3. neri73-r
            neri73-r 14 October 2020 10: 48
            0
            Quote: imobile2008
            The Armenians have completely lost the information war. Could show video of destruction or debris. It would have such an effect that it was necessary to make every effort.

            There is a video there or not, it doesn't matter, everything shows the border of the line of contact of the troops well! Azerbaijan (troops) has not advanced far, there are positional battles, the blitzkrieg has failed. And all this is sad for both Armenians and Azerbaijanis, and we do not have anything good from this either.
        2. Dreamboat
          Dreamboat 12 October 2020 22: 09
          +4
          It is surprising why VO and other Russian resources reprint this slag from the Armenian Defense Ministry? It is already clear to children that he has nothing to do with real military operations, nothing is confirmed. (As well as favorite news from ukrosaytov) At the same time, the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan regularly uploads fresh video reports to YouTube, but they are silent about this.
          I’m not a party to the conflict, I don’t care who will beat whom, but fake news, to the delight of the cheers, is simply stupid to read. Do not hold people for go ... You are either a news resource, or a fantasy propaganda.
    2. YOUR
      YOUR 12 October 2020 16: 53
      +1
      What a truce. Aliyev said in an interview with RBC, we will go to the end, Pashenyan put it about the same. A truce of humanitarian troupe to gather, exchange prisoners with a prefix, perhaps, let the peacekeepers leave the combat zone, that's all the truce.
      As for the downed Su-25, it would not be bad to supplement when and by what means, but not like that, we shot it down. Not from a slingshot w
  2. loki565
    loki565 12 October 2020 16: 27
    24
    And exactly what is the Su25 or is it another An2? So the air defense will end faster than these unmanned maize)))
    1. MTN
      MTN 12 October 2020 16: 29
      +3
      Quote: loki565
      And what exactly is the Su25 or the next An2?

      laughing good
    2. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 12 October 2020 16: 52
      +9
      Quote: loki565
      And exactly what is the Su25 or is it another An2? So the air defense will end faster than these unmanned maize)))


      By the way, there is also a video (as the Armenians assure - fresh) about the shooting down of another An-2, which the Azerbaijani side uses as provocate targets to open the enemy's air defense system.
      1. imobile2008
        imobile2008 12 October 2020 17: 06
        +4
        Indeed AH2
        1. BDRM 667
          BDRM 667 12 October 2020 17: 10
          +6
          Quote: imobile2008
          Indeed AH2

          What's so surprising here? In the Armenian video, it is just designated as An-2 (ԱՆ -2) ...
          At one time, Azerbaijan bought a whole fleet of these biplanes at bargain prices, and independently, or with someone's help, converted them into UAVs.
          Now he uses them.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 12 October 2020 18: 01
        +4
        And of course the Armenians continue to peck at these hooks.
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    1. saigon
      saigon 12 October 2020 17: 33
      +9
      Vasya, I'm ashamed to ask you, are you exactly Vasya? Something makes me suspect that you will not forgive Vasya!
      1. Alena-Baku
        Alena-Baku 12 October 2020 18: 04
        -4
        And I am Zeynab, everyone here with a Russian nickname is Azerbaijanis.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 12 October 2020 19: 42
          -3
          Quote: Alena-Baku
          And I am Zeynab, everyone here with a Russian nickname is Azerbaijanis.

          Vasya is not Azerbaijani
          1. MKPU-115
            MKPU-115 12 October 2020 21: 37
            +1
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Quote: Alena-Baku
            And I am Zeynab, everyone here with a Russian nickname is Azerbaijanis.

            Vasya is not Azerbaijani

            Do you work as a lawyer for Vasya (some Mardan)?
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 13 October 2020 08: 06
              0
              Why are you interested?
              1. MKPU-115
                MKPU-115 13 October 2020 10: 32
                0
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Why are you interested?

                And why are you asking about this?
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 13 October 2020 10: 46
                  -1
                  I thought - suddenly there will be a counter-commercial offer laughing
                  1. MKPU-115
                    MKPU-115 13 October 2020 11: 40
                    0
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    I thought - suddenly there will be a counter-commercial offer laughing

                    The turkey also thought, but got into the soup. laughing
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    2. saigon
      saigon 12 October 2020 17: 40
      +6
      Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
      Today, 16: 20
      0
      The Karabakh authorities accused Baku of continuing the offensive, Yerevan calculated the enemy's losses
      Soon all the people of Karabakh will be disposed of. Even the flowers you can take to the Embassy of Armenia. Let a tear come in. You will have a drink.
      A complaint
      Vasya Lozhkin
      Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
      Today, 16: 19
      0
      The Karabakh authorities accused Baku of continuing the offensive, Yerevan calculated the enemy's losses
      A..rtsakh not long to stink. These are shelling of despair.
      A complaint
      Vasya Lozhkin
      Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
      Today, 16: 14
      -1
      "Infantry in front of tanks": strange tactics of Armenian troops are discussed on the net
      Armenian women give birth to new
      A complaint
      Vasya Lozhkin
      Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
      Today, 11: 52
      +3
      Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan: operational advantage along the entire front line of our army
      The insolent Armenian animal is still snarling, but it must be finished off
      A complaint
      Vasya Lozhkin
      Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
      Today, 06: 59
      -14 qualifying.
      Nagorno-Karabakh announced a disrupted Azerbaijani offensive in the north-east direction
      This is the resettlement of the occupying population. , not genocide. Genocide is a formulation for the goyim. Stolen lands are returned to the owners. Armenians can go to the "New Ar..akh" -Sochi and Krasnodar. South of the Russian Federation then Ar..akh
      A complaint
      Vasya Lozhkin
      Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
      Today, 06: 56
      -11 qualifying.
      Nagorno-Karabakh announced a disrupted Azerbaijani offensive in the north-east direction
      The re-education of the Armenians continues. Artsakh Kaput
      A complaint
      Vasya Lozhkin
      Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
      Today, 05: 43
      -12 qualifying.
      The bets on the S-300PMU-2 and the Iron Dome will turn into a complete fiasco for Baku. The unused trump card of the Armenian missile forces and artillery
      Armenians do not gather more than 2. You can get a pumpkin. Bombs and rockets fall from above.
      A complaint
      Vasya Lozhkin
      Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
      Today, 04: 38
      -1
      "Armenian soldiers lost faith in their commanders": Azerbaijan's Defense Ministry presented a summary of the battles during the "truce"
      The more Dashnaks bang along with their sings, the cleaner the air will be.
      A complaint
      Vasya Lozhkin
      Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
      Today, 04: 36
      0
      "Armenian soldiers lost faith in their commanders": Azerbaijan's Defense Ministry presented a summary of the battles during the "truce"
      It will be over soon. Ar..sakh kaput. "Valiant" Armenians will not gather more than two. Jabrail Azerov, Hadrut Azerov. Soon Fizuli Azerov and Pashinyan Kaput
      A complaint
      Vasya Lozhkin
      Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
      Today, 04: 32
      0
      "Armenian soldiers lost faith in their commanders": Azerbaijan's Defense Ministry presented a summary of the battles during the "truce"
      And even then, all these Dashnaks Baghramyanov was protected by the head Dashnak Mikoyan. Kind Stalin did not put this Baghramyan with Cargo to the wall for Kharkov 42g
      A complaint
      1. MA3UTA
        MA3UTA 13 October 2020 01: 21
        +4
        Ага.
        Also noticed some details

        A certain group of users appeared,
        for example, in this topic
        https://topwar.ru/user/Алена-Баку/
        https://topwar.ru/user/Вася+Ложкин
        https://topwar.ru/user/MTN/

        The similarities are as follows:
        1. To put it mildly, they comment on the news of the conflict in a very one-sided and tendentious way.
        2. this is done with noticeable activity, and quite amicably.


        registration dates
        29 September 2020
        October 9 2020
        October 11 2020

        after the start of the active phase of the conflict in Karabakh

        It is very possible to assume that under these nicknames there can be both overly active patriots of Azerbaijan, and special people from the Baku "Olgino" working in a rather awkward profile.
        IMHO so.
        I wish you peace.
        And increasing the level of professionalism in shaping public opinion
        For patriots of two sides of the historical barricade!
        I met only good Armenians and Azerbaijanis, that's how it turned out in life.
        I regret that I was neither in Baku, nor in Yerevan and did not eat Dolma.
        I consider it a tragedy that the children of my former compatriots are killing each other.

  4. V1er
    V1er 12 October 2020 16: 29
    -17 qualifying.
    Every day, as long as Russia is silent, as long as the conflict continues on our border, it plays against us. You need to decide something. At least economically and politically, put pressure on the parties to the conflict.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 12 October 2020 16: 30
      10
      And what should be the purpose of the pressure?
      1. V1er
        V1er 12 October 2020 16: 32
        -13 qualifying.
        And what should be the purpose of the pressure?

        Stop the conflict, red lines for Turkey and other participants. What's going to be worse. We must clearly define our position, otherwise it will end badly.
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 12 October 2020 16: 36
          +6
          Quote: V1er
          red lines for Turkey and other participants.

          Yeah, like this:
        2. bessmertniy
          bessmertniy 12 October 2020 16: 36
          -3
          Our position may be simple - to propose to both - the USSR. repeat
          1. V1er
            V1er 12 October 2020 16: 37
            -3
            I agree, Victor) drinks
          2. MTN
            MTN 12 October 2020 16: 39
            +7
            Quote: bessmertniy
            Our position may be simple - to propose to both - the USSR.

            When you write this, one question immediately bothers me. Are you aware that the very first who voted for the collapse of the USSR was Armenia, and in Azerbaijan they held a vote and almost 93% were against for the collapse of the USSR? Did you know about this?
            1. nnm
              nnm 12 October 2020 16: 56
              +6
              Excuse me, are you confusing anything? In Azerbaijan, for example, in the referendum on the preservation of the USSR, 93% voted "FOR"! Don't you confuse this with the post factum referendums of local elites?
              1. Oquzyurd
                Oquzyurd 12 October 2020 22: 33
                +2
                On December 27, 1990, the Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR decided to put into effect the Law of the USSR "On National Voting (USSR Referendum)" adopted by it on that day

                1. To hold on the whole territory of the USSR on Sunday, March 17, 1991, a referendum of the USSR on the question of preserving the USSR as a federation of equal republics.
                2. Include in the ballot paper the following wording of the question to be submitted to the referendum and the options for the voters' answers:
                “Do you consider it necessary to preserve the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as a renewed federation of equal sovereign republics in which human rights and freedoms of any nationality will be fully guaranteed.”
                "Yes or no".
                Azerbaijan voted, 93,3% of the voters voted "Yes", that is, they are in favor of preserving the USSR.
                Armenia did not vote.
                The authorities of Armenia, which declared its independence in August 1990, refused to organize an all-Union referendum.
                .................................................. .................................................. ....................................
                People can forget all this, but history does not forget. And the facts sooner or later make their way through the built walls of lies.
          3. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 18: 03
            -1
            Quote: bessmertniy
            Our position can be simple - to offer both - the USSR

            like this, with jokes, jokes ... And Comrade Lavrov with a red felt-tip pen ...
        3. Pereira
          Pereira 12 October 2020 16: 37
          +6
          Stopping the offensive is the salvation of Armenia. This is not beneficial for Azerbaijan. To exert such pressure is to lose the status of an arbiter.
          1. V1er
            V1er 12 October 2020 16: 39
            -1
            Stopping the offensive is the salvation of Armenia. This is not beneficial for Azerbaijan. To exert such pressure is to lose the status of an arbiter.

            Well, we'll keep the status of an arbitrator, what will we get in the end? Offended Armenia, for which Russian traitors and a Russian base are not needed. Let's preserve victorious Azerbaijan, which will fall more into the bosom of Turkey, and then the United States, maybe even into NATO. They have no motivation or sense to remain friends with Russia. On the contrary, Russia is weak, Turkey is strong in their words. Armenia, Russia's ally, lost. This is where everything goes. And don't look at Aliyev. He will leave in ten years, a new ambitious Azerbaijani leader will come, who will say that Turkey is power and strength, helped with Karabakh, and Russia slowed down, an ally of Armenians and stuff like that. What will happen in the end? They will lie under the USA and Turkey.
            1. MTN
              MTN 12 October 2020 16: 47
              10
              Quote: V1er
              Well, we'll keep the status of an arbitrator, what will we get in the end? Offended Armenia, for which Russian traitors and a Russian base are not needed.

              You have never learned to distinguish friends from enemies. Have you seen people in Azerbaijan with placards where they would send Putin to 3 letters? Where did they write that Russia was an occupier? Do you know how many Russian schools and institutes in Azerbaijan? Do you know how many Russians live in Azerbaijan? Do you know what kind of trade turnover between Russia and Azerbaijan, not counting the oil and gas and military sectors? Have you read what Russians want and say in Azerbaijan? When will you wake up?
              1. V1er
                V1er 12 October 2020 16: 53
                +3
                You have never learned to distinguish friends from enemies. Have you seen people in Azerbaijan with placards where they would send Putin to 3 letters? Where did they write that Russia was an occupier? Do you know how many Russian schools and institutes in Azerbaijan? Do you know how many Russians live in Azerbaijan? Do you know what kind of trade turnover between Russia and Azerbaijan, not counting the oil and gas and military sectors? Have you read what Russians want and say in Azerbaijan? When will you wake up?

                I answer the question. How many Russian bases are there in Azerbaijan? How many times has Azerbaijan helped Russia? Which side will you take if tomorrow there is a war with Turkey or NATO? Maybe Azerbaijan is in the CSTO and EVZAR? What does this all mean? If after Aliyev a pro-Turkish pro-NATO candidate comes and sees that Turkey is strong, helped with Karabakh, destroyed Armenia, NATO and the United States will guarantee Azerbaijan's security and even the division of Iran and the Caucasus. What will Azerbaijan choose? We went through all this. You wildly stand up for Turkey. This is all politics as friends, but there are no friends in the world, there are interests. And Turkey's interests coincide with the interests of the United States, not Russia. Knocked out Armenia is another blow to Russia. You don’t understand this? I will not say anything about the militants in Chechnya and Islam, and everything is clear. As well as about the Turks and Turan.
                1. Vasya Lozhkin
                  Vasya Lozhkin 12 October 2020 17: 18
                  +7
                  Why does Armenia participate in NATO programs? Why did the US build biological laboratories in Armenia and did not the Armenians allow Russian inspectors to check them? Why does Pashinyan attend NATO summits? Why has Armenia banned Russian TV and Russian in schools? Why are anti-Russian rallies constantly held in Armenia?
                  1. MTN
                    MTN 12 October 2020 17: 41
                    -1
                    Thank you for your faithful review. +
                2. MTN
                  MTN 12 October 2020 17: 20
                  +4
                  Quote: V1er
                  I answer the question.

                  You answered my questions one-sidedly. Alas.

                  Quote: V1er
                  How many Russian bases are there in Azerbaijan?

                  Will you host the NATO troops base? Honestly ... But Russia and Armenia are in the same military bloc.

                  Quote: V1er
                  How many times has Azerbaijan helped Russia?

                  I will tell you only 2 of them. 1) Zhukov himself admitted that if not for Azerbaijan oil during the Great Patriotic War ... ... .... plus 300 soldiers and the Azerbaijani army also showed itself well. If you don’t know I can share the lines of history 000) Do you know who Farman Salmanov is? He is the discoverer of many Siberian oil and gas fields. Enough? In the first case, the military side and in the second, the economic one.

                  Quote: V1er
                  Which side will you take if tomorrow there is a war with Turkey or NATO?

                  For Turkey, of course, all because it is a fraternal people. Not just in words, but at the genetic level. If tomorrow there is a war between the Republic of Belarus and Armenia, who will you stand up for? I hope you got what I meant.

                  Quote: V1er
                  and even the division of Iran and the Caucasus.

                  Do you think about 40 million Azerbaijanis in Iran fell from the moon? Do you even know that until 1928 Iran was ruled by ethnic Azerbaijanis? 2 families. Qajars and Qashqays. For thousands of years. Is it bad if we return ours?

                  Quote: V1er
                  but there are no friends in the world, there are interests.

                  Your interest in Armenia was good in the time of Peter before Nicholas 2. Although there are moments in history when Catherine, if I am not mistaken, and Nikolai himself severely punished the Armenians. They betrayed. How the Turks were betrayed. And a traitor is a traitor. He is a traitor in Africa too. Now what is happening with Pashinyan is such a betrayal in relation to Russia. INSTEAD OF THANKS.

                  Quote: V1er
                  As well as about the Turks and Turan.

                  DYK. it turns out that everyone can remember whose ancestors where they lived (I mean the Armenians), but the Turks are not allowed? Double standards comrade. But Azerbaijan does not need Turan. We should return ours.
                  1. V1er
                    V1er 12 October 2020 17: 34
                    +5
                    Thanks for answers. I am glad that you answered that way, everything is honest and open. I didn’t give you cons.
                    1. MTN
                      MTN 12 October 2020 17: 42
                      +1
                      Quote: V1er
                      Thanks for answers.

                      And thank you. To you + from me.
                  2. nnm
                    nnm 12 October 2020 17: 58
                    +5
                    Eh, on the road, it's a pity I can't argue in full. And what, who discovered, developed and processed raw materials in Azerbaijan? Themselves or what?
                    And I would very much like to look at the original source of Zhukov's quote. In no way do I dispute, but the Internet of references to quotes is still a proof.
                    Farman Salmanov is a rare ... not a good person, in general. He worked with those who remembered him from those years - an ordinary picture, a womanizer and an alcoholic. Ordinary Russian geologists were proud of him, and he was just an exhibition picture.
                    He did not open anything at all.
                    What other genetic link do you have with the Turks? Well, at least look at what group of peoples you belong to! (Immediately I say - Türkic - LANGUAGE group, look further).
                    Jesus ... more alternative historians. Have you learned from Ukraine? You belong to the IRANIAN group of peoples, and when you talk about how you ruled Iran ... then this is approximately the same as ... the inhabitants of the central cernozem region rule the Russians. It's just oil.
                    Bad, bad Armenians - they betrayed the Turks (although I did not understand what you specifically mean), who slaughtered them for so many years! How awful is ingratitude.
                    Once again, you are not a TURKISH, but an IRANIAN group of peoples, although this is something you should know. And the TURKISH - LANGUAGE, after you have been Turkic.
                    Yes, at least a minimum of materiel would have learned first.
                    1. MTN
                      MTN 12 October 2020 18: 03
                      -6
                      Quote: nnm
                      IRANIAN group of peoples

                      this is something new) Iranian group)))) Lord, why not read here. And about Farman Salmanov in general slaughter) Good luck dear)
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                      2. MTN
                        MTN 12 October 2020 18: 29
                        -1
                        dear, is Wikipedia a fact for you?
                      3. nnm
                        nnm 12 October 2020 18: 38
                        +6
                        Yes, they have just made up a version of ethnogenesis for you personally. And Jean-Paul Roux described this story on purpose in order to compose a fake in your direction.
                        What kind of ignorance !!!!!
                        There is no way to say - "I'm sorry, I didn't know. Thanks for the tip", no, they rested in their ignorance worse than non-brothers. Well, you also want alternative versions of history, ethnology, etc. - but write what you want if your invented ego is more important to you than scientific facts. Generally indifferent.
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              2. Xenofont
                Xenofont 12 October 2020 18: 41
                +5
                Here are my thoughts about one people with the Turks! The facts are adjusted to the ideology, for present-day Azerbaijan is a centuries-old fiefdom of the Persians, and the province of Azerbaijan was located south of the Araks in the lands of Iran. Fake history-support of the former Union republics.
          2. Nikanet
            Nikanet 13 October 2020 07: 53
            0
            It turns out that 300 Russian schools do not replace one Russian base? laughing Is the base more important to you? How many times has Azerbaijan helped Russia?)) And isn't it a shame to write this? I would remind, but the list is weighty. Azerbaijan does not take any side, it is a party to the Non-Aligned Treaty. Turkey helped Azerbaijan with Karabakh only politically and through military technical cooperation. Armenia has no weaker assistant, right? Don't bother with Iran. 35 million Azerbaijanis live there, and they somehow decide for themselves what's what wink Azerbaijan does not stand up for Turkey, there is no policy of friendliness, it is difficult for you to simply understand that these are one and the same people. All problems of Turkey are problems of Azerbaijan, and problems of Azerbaijan are problems of Turkey. And I do not advise you to drag Chechnya and Islam here, you will get confused even worse. Well, Turan is the national idea of ​​all Turks. And this topic does not talk about enmity with anyone.
        4. uranium
          uranium 12 October 2020 17: 13
          0
          Who cares how many Russian schools there are in Azerbaijan? The main thing is an ally and that they don't like Russia there, there are no Russian schools and lives on subsidies from the Kremlin. Just think they erected a monument to a fascist in the center of Yerevan, well, and that in the 70s during the Soviet Union they committed terrorist attacks, you think they banned the broadcasting of Russian channels, the main thing is a military base.
          1. MTN
            MTN 12 October 2020 17: 45
            +1
            Quote: uran
            Who cares how many Russian schools there are in Azerbaijan?

            I hope your answer was sarcasm.
        5. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 12 October 2020 17: 24
          +1
          Quote: MTN
          Quote: V1er
          Well, we'll keep the status of an arbitrator, what will we get in the end? Offended Armenia, for which Russian traitors and a Russian base are not needed.

          You have never learned to distinguish friends from enemies. Have you seen people in Azerbaijan with placards where they would send Putin to 3 letters? Where did they write that Russia was an occupier? Do you know how many Russian schools and institutes in Azerbaijan? Do you know how many Russians live in Azerbaijan? Do you know what kind of trade turnover between Russia and Azerbaijan, not counting the oil and gas and military sectors? Have you read what Russians want and say in Azerbaijan? When will you wake up?

          Everyone can shout and walk with placards, but real actions are more important to you already written about the base and the CSTO. Moreover, both language and schools are a quickly resolved issue, as well as the presence of Russians in your republic. Anyway, Azerbaijan has somewhere to go, while Armenia does not have such latitude of maneuver. So, in my opinion, it is now beneficial for Russia to save the Armenians from complete defeat. What will happen in 5-10 years, ordinary mortals do not know.
          1. MTN
            MTN 12 October 2020 17: 52
            -3
            Quote: Pavlos Melas
            So, in my opinion, it is now beneficial for Russia to save the Armenians from complete defeat.

            You can look through history and make sure that during the Ottoman Empire more than half of the diplomats from the Turkish side were Armenians. In the Ottoman Empire, they were allowed to pray in their churches. To have their own schools and so on .. in the end, greed ruined the frayer ..... Anglo-Saxons poochali them land and their state, provided that they stage a coup. Now the same is happening between Russia and Armenia. The Russian media is in the hands of Armenians, the Foreign Ministry is in the hands of a semi-Armenian, but in reality Armenia is asleep and sees how it will become a NATO member. So good luck with such an ally. If you can prove to me otherwise by documentary evidence, I will publicly take back the words and apologize.
            1. Pavlos Melas
              Pavlos Melas 12 October 2020 18: 08
              +5
              Quote: MTN
              Quote: Pavlos Melas
              So, in my opinion, it is now beneficial for Russia to save the Armenians from complete defeat.

              You can look through history and make sure that during the Ottoman Empire more than half of the diplomats from the Turkish side were Armenians. In the Ottoman Empire, they were allowed to pray in their churches. To have their own schools and so on .. in the end, greed ruined the frayer ..... Anglo-Saxons poochali them land and their state, provided that they stage a coup. Now the same is happening between Russia and Armenia. The Russian media is in the hands of Armenians, the Foreign Ministry is in the hands of a semi-Armenian, but in reality Armenia is asleep and sees how it will become a NATO member. So good luck with such an ally. If you can prove to me otherwise by documentary evidence, I will publicly take back the words and apologize.

              No one argues that the Armenians held high positions in the Ottoman Empire, but this was far from the reason for the collapse of this bloody empire. The Ottomans themselves are primarily to blame. I wrote that at the moment I see the benefit of Russia to save Armenia from complete defeat. In general, I do not consider this conflict in the plane of Azerbaijan vs Armenia. I look at this conflict from the point of view of Russia vs Turkey.
              1. MTN
                MTN 12 October 2020 18: 33
                -4
                Quote: Pavlos Melas
                No one argues that Armenians held high positions in the Ottoman Empire

                dear, no one just does not deport anyone does not kill. There is no smoke without fire.

                Quote: Pavlos Melas
                I look at this conflict from the point of view of Russia vs Turkey.

                Dear, I am ready to give my head to cut off if, before the conflict, Erdogan and Putin did not discuss a detailed alignment of this conflict. Understand, if Putin wants, he will economically ruin this Turkey. Wake up eventually. Don't you think that this war began without the green light from Putin? Do you think Putin is the president of a Papuan country.? He is the president of Russia.
                1. Pavlos Melas
                  Pavlos Melas 12 October 2020 19: 02
                  +3
                  dear, no one just does not deport anyone does not kill. There is no smoke without fire.

                  Agree that any party to the conflict can appeal to this thesis.
                  Dear, I am ready to give my head to cut off if, before the conflict, Erdogan and Putin did not discuss a detailed alignment of this conflict.
                  It may very well be.
                  Understand if Putin wants, he will economically ruin this Turkey.
                  This is a very dubious statement.
                  Wake up eventually.
                  Your mentoring tone is not appropriate.

                  Don't you think that this war began without the green light from Putin?

                  It is quite possible that there were consultations with Putin, therefore:
                  So, in my opinion, it is now beneficial for Russia to save Armenians from complete defeat. What will happen in 5-10 years, ordinary mortals do not know.

                  You think Putin is the president of a Papuan country.? He is the president of Russia.
                  Turkey is no longer a Papuan country either. Ertogan is also far from being a boy and his ambitions are not childish.
            2. icant007
              icant007 12 October 2020 21: 53
              +2
              that during the Ottoman Empire more than half of the diplomats from the Turkish side were Armenians


              After the Transcaucasia became part of Russia, the main bureaucratic apparatus on the spot was made up of Armenians. Because there were restrictions on the presence of Muslims in government. well, Russia has always relied on the "Christian" factor
              And what about power in Russia? Access to the distribution of finance. The Armenian capital began to play the first violin in the Transcaucasus. Armenian officials and businessmen developed a sense of their own exclusiveness in relation to other peoples.
              Over time, this caused discontent among Azerbaijanis, which is quite natural.
              Russia tried to correct the imbalance, but all this only led to the swinging of the pendulum, which resulted in a banal "divide and conquer" policy.
              So, no matter how bitter it is to tell us Russians, Russia has done its bit in inciting ethnic hatred.
              Therefore, those who refer to the supposedly blissful era of the Russian Empire are not entirely right.



              Russian media in the hands of Armenians


              I disagree. I think there are quite a few Azerbaijanis on TV now.
              For example, Irada Zeynalova. There are also many on Russian television.
              Which I am very glad)
              And by the way, Margarita Simonyan, as far as I heard, takes a rather critical position on the current policy of Armenia.

              Karabakh Azerbaijani!
          2. Grits
            Grits 13 October 2020 05: 16
            +3
            Quote: Pavlos Melas
            What will happen in 5-10 years, ordinary mortals do not know.

            But they can foresee, based on their current initial data and experience.
            In any case, Russia is losing.
            1. Option - Russia does not interfere. Azerbaijan is finally rolling over Karabakh. Baku is euphoric, maybe even thanks to Putin it will say that it didn’t interfere, but in the end it will choose Turkey (a NATO member) as a friend. Turks happily settle in Azerbaijan as the main assistant in victory and an equal master. They begin to build military bases (including in the Caspian Sea) and training camps for barmaley from all over the Middle East near the border with Russia. The Armenians are offended by Russia for not helping, they are leaving the CSTO and driving our base out of Gyumri. But they call on the United States as saviors in the form of some "peacekeepers". They are happy to settle down, build 5 more floors of the embassy building and occupy the territory of the former Russian base. Plus, they are stumbling a bunch of smaller ones on the border with Iran.
            2. Option - Russia supports Azerbaijan. All the same. But instead of thanks, Baku will say a very big thank you. But he will do the same. Armenia is finally turning into a kind of Banderostan.
            3. Option - Russia supports Armenia. Now Azerbaijan will turn into a Russophobic gadyushnik worse than the independent one. Since everything that is described above will be there, it will only be an order of magnitude cooler and will be mixed with fierce hatred of Russia. The Armenians will thank you. But Karabakh will continue to seethe and smolder.
            1. 16329
              16329 13 October 2020 10: 41
              0
              Actually, the British influence in Azerbaijan is more significant than the Turkish one,
              Turkey has serious conflicts with NATO countries, and NATO will never support Turkish interests. Russia's cultural influence in Azerbaijan is higher than in Armenia, all this is true. And modern Turkey will not build any Turan, as if not to fall apart.
              But, nevertheless, Karabakh will not be given to Azerbaijan. It could be, as a special area with the Armenian administration and its own armed forces, as well as in the presence of peacekeepers, but Azerbaijan will not agree to this, therefore, precisely, Baku has serious problems with this war and it is time to end it, take away a couple of regions, establish a truce and continue long negotiations until the next escalation.
        6. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi 12 October 2020 17: 29
          +7
          Quote: MTN
          Do you know how many Russians live in Azerbaijan?

          We know. yes In 1979, almost half a million, in 2009 a little more than 100 thousand. Now that is not the case. yes That is precisely why .... You should be glad that you are not called enemies in plain text. yes
          But if you look at how Azerbaijan is actively fit under Turkey. Which, in turn, even more actively destroys the remnants of Kemalism (however, only memories of him remain), and introduces radical Islamism .... My dear. And who, if not the enemy, should we consider those who lead the case to the fact that in 20-30 years we will have a country of classical Allah Akbar on the border, and besides, who are in the service of those who have a lot of claims against Russia?
          1. MTN
            MTN 12 October 2020 17: 55
            -1
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            in 2009 a little more than 100 thousand. Now even that is not.

            At the moment, about 120 thousand Russians live and if Russians leave Azerbaijan it is not because they are treated badly, but for a better life. Many Jews left and this does not mean that we treated them badly. As long as Ilham Aliyev is alive, there will be no radical Islamism in Azerbaijan. Don't lie here.
            1. miner
              miner 12 October 2020 18: 56
              +6
              My colleague, a Russian born in Baku, left with his family before the collapse of the USSR. He said that even then it was felt that everything would not end well. Although, as he said, until the end of the 80s, the city was international and very comfortable for life.
              I met a Russian from Azerbaijan in the army. His only name and surname were Russians; he knew Russian worse than Azeri. I communicated mainly with fellow countrymen and in case of conflicts, I was always on their side. Apparently such Russians stayed in Azerbaijan. They have nothing to do with the Russians of Russia.
            2. Lannan Shi
              Lannan Shi 12 October 2020 19: 52
              +4
              Quote: MTN
              if Russians leave Azerbaijan it is not because they are treated badly, but for a better life.

              Ugums. Here's the truth, there is one interesting point. Our neighbors to the west of Rostov and south of Minsk are considered to be outright Russophobes. And their economy is worse than yours. no oil was found. But even from there, such a percentage of Russians, as from you, did not leave. Apparently, it is more comfortable in a impoverished Russophobic country than in hospitable Azerbaijan. yes
              Quote: MTN
              Many Jews left and this does not mean that we treated them badly.

              Ugums. By the way, when the British recruited natives on the plantation, which differed from classical slavery only by the limitation of the term, they were also sincerely convinced that they were practically engaged in charity work. yes
              Quote: MTN
              As long as Ilham Aliyev is alive, there will be no radical Islamism in Azerbaijan.

              Laponka. So who will ask him? That's it, the train has left. Get in the habit of pronouncing, preferably with aspiration - the owner Recep. This is what the Sahib decides, then you will. Now you have such independence .... A kind, purely for the public. Haven't you felt it yet? Let's talk about this topic in 5 years. yes
              Dixi.
  5. pereselenec
    pereselenec 12 October 2020 16: 41
    0
    Quote: V1er
    Stop the conflict, red lines for Turkey


    Turkey crossed all conceivable and inconceivable red lines, turning us over with the Turkish Stream, killing our pilot and ambassador with impunity, openly opposing us in Syria and Libya, but "economic pressure on Azerbaijan" will become an impenetrable obstacle for it. So chtoli?
    1. V1er
      V1er 12 October 2020 16: 43
      -1
      You are speaking correctly about Turkey. No, I did not offer to put pressure on Turkey through Azerbaijan. Russia has many other levers.
  6. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 12 October 2020 17: 40
    +5
    Stop the conflict, red lines for Turkey


    And the Turks need red lines - something went too far ... laughing
  • Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 17: 04
    +1
    Quote: V1er
    Every day, while Russia is silent, while the conflict continues on our border,

    on whose on "your"? Russia has no borders with Armenia, do you know?
    1. Pavlos Melas
      Pavlos Melas 12 October 2020 17: 26
      +6
      Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Quote: V1er
      Every day, while Russia is silent, while the conflict continues on our border,

      on whose on "your"? Russia has no borders with Armenia, do you know?

      But there is with Azerbaijan.
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      2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 19: 35
        +2
        Quote: Pavlos Melas
        But there is with Azerbaijan.

        So what? Azerbaijan threatens Russia?
        1. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 12 October 2020 19: 51
          +1
          Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Quote: Pavlos Melas
          But there is with Azerbaijan.

          So what? Azerbaijan threatens Russia?

          You know, everything flows, everything changes, where Azerbaijan can be safely put Turkey. It is probably worth reminding about where and from where the North Caucasian separatists were treated and received help not so long ago. Today everything is calm what will happen tomorrow if you pretend to be an ostrich today? It is not the Martians who draw maps in which the Great Turan from the Adriatic Sea to the Pacific Ocean. Even if we forget Turan, Azerbaijan itself has great potential to become a problem. Israeli missiles are not only a business, it is also a strengthening of Azerbaijan against Iran. There are more Azerbaijanis living in Iran than in Azerbaijan, that is, on the border there will be a 40 million state quite rich. If we take into account that there was an opinion in Azerbaijan to be called North Azerbaijan, then these thoughts are hatched. You can also take into account the Dagestani peoples, the question is who will pull the rope of sympathy?
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 20: 09
            0
            But you never know who draws what cards there? We have won - in the branch, too, dreamers with dreams of the USSR. Imperial phantom convulsions - they don't let go. But this, of course, is "different" - a bulwark of peace and stability, a fraternal family of nations and so on. And with your Belikov philosophy - "whatever happens" - should, apparently, out of sin, nafig conquer all the neighborhood? And then you will overlook - bam! - the whole back is in knives.
            1. Pavlos Melas
              Pavlos Melas 12 October 2020 20: 19
              +2
              Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              But you never know who draws what cards there? We have won - in the branch, too, dreamers with dreams of the USSR. Imperial phantom convulsions - they don't let go. But this, of course, is "different" - a bulwark of peace and stability, a fraternal family of nations and so on. And with your Belikov philosophy - "whatever happens" - should, apparently, out of sin, nafig conquer all the neighborhood? And then you will overlook - bam! - the whole back is in knives.

              Let's separate flies from cutlets, fantasists separately, the statement of politicians who have built and are building Azerbaijan separately. One said that he was a soldier of Ataturk, others talk about one people of two states. Let's not speculate for other commentators yet. I have never called on anyone to conquer or actively intervene in the conflict. In my opinion, we must ensure that our interests are not infringed upon and that Turkey does not strengthen its position. If, according to my comment, my opinion that they will withdraw themselves from this conflict will be perceived by the partners as weakness.
              If we conjecture for you, then it turns out, let's leave everything to chance. Even if Derbent will understand and forgive lizh there would be no war?
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 20: 37
                -2
                ... Even if Derbent ojimat will understand and forgive lizh, would there be no war?

                And what, they are already pressing?
                1. Pavlos Melas
                  Pavlos Melas 12 October 2020 20: 38
                  +1
                  Even if Derbent ojimat will understand and forgive lizh, would there be no war?

                  And what, they are already pressing?

                  You know, at first there was a word ...
    2. V1er
      V1er 12 October 2020 17: 43
      +4
      on whose on "your"? Russia has no borders with Armenia, do you know?

      There are with Azerbaijan, Turkey, Georgia. In Armenia, our military base and observation of the entire Caucasus and Mesopotamia.
  • Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 12 October 2020 17: 16
    +5
    It would be nice first in Armenia to decide what the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic is for them. And even independence is not recognized and is not included in its composition. Russia help, and what we will do next and to whom how to relate is no longer your business.
    Of course, NKR is a very convenient territory for all sorts of troubled affairs. But the situation has changed. And the Armenian leadership will understand that it will never be as it was before.
    I have said this many times here that we residents of Russia cannot be more Armenians than the Armenians themselves. And that the pro-Western and anti-Russian course for Armenia will lead to the fact that such a country will disappear from the map. And if you remember Pashinyan's rhetoric at the end of 17th early 18th year. Its pro-Western orientation and trade in Russophobia. The situation with Russian-language channels in early summer. Navalny's speech on Armenian television. Let them say thank you that we support them in such a way.

    I recall the program of the Main Topic of May 3, 18, in which Mikhail Leontyev and Mikhail Yuryev made a "diagnosis" of Pashinyan's political course. There was a lot of abuse about this program. Two years have passed. And everything that was said was confirmed.
  • fa2998
    fa2998 12 October 2020 16: 30
    +1
    The squabble of "responsible" persons with a developed Internet shame! They removed, posted, let the other side dispute. And then one grandmother said.
  • Professor
    Professor 12 October 2020 16: 32
    +3
    According to the Armenian military department, the attack aircraft destroyed on Monday became 18- the second aircraft of the Azerbaijani Air Force, lost since the beginning of hostilities in the zone of the Karabakh conflict.
    Lie so lie. Just why 18, and 17 or 19? Prime numbers are easier to read.
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 12 October 2020 16: 38
      0
      Of course, one hundred, two hundred, five hundred - it sounds both simple and beautiful. what
    2. MTN
      MTN 12 October 2020 16: 40
      -2
      Quote: Professor
      Lie so lie. Just why 18, and 17 or 19? Prime numbers are easier to read.

      Shalom professor. The Armenians are like that in everything. Even in the number of victims of genocide. Zeros are increasing every year.
      1. saigon
        saigon 12 October 2020 17: 49
        +3
        A nice person is that the Armenians and the Azerbaijanis just have a craving for myth-making about the deeds and victories of the military.
        And they believe in themselves.
        Everything that both sides sing should be divided a little and, as it were, not by ten.
    3. Thrall
      Thrall 12 October 2020 16: 41
      -1
      Quote: Professor
      Just why 18, and 17 or 19?

      This is a question for Armenian radio smile
      British scientists are powerless here ...
    4. V1er
      V1er 12 October 2020 16: 45
      -1
      Why do you support the conflict of Muslims and Turks in this, and not the Christian Armenians and fraternal Russia?
      1. Professor
        Professor 12 October 2020 17: 01
        0
        We do not support anyone. This is not our war. And Russia is not fraternal and has nothing to do with it.

        PS
        Jews in Azerbaijan lived and do not live badly. Armenia is the only country in the region where there is no Jewish community. There are not even the ruins of synagogues.
        1. MTN
          MTN 12 October 2020 17: 22
          -1
          Quote: Professor
          rmenia is the only country in the region where there is no Jewish community.

          For that there is a monument to the fascist who killed the Jew.
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 17: 57
            0
            Quote: MTN
            For that there is a monument to the fascist who killed the Jew.

            Who is this?
            1. MTN
              MTN 12 October 2020 18: 38
              0
              Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Who is this?

              Gagarin Nzhdeh
              fought on the side of Hitler.
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 19: 14
                +1
                Quote: MTN
                Gagarin Nzhdeh

                Gagarin ??????
                laughing
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                2. Observer2014
                  Observer2014 12 October 2020 19: 31
                  -1
                  Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                  Quote: MTN
                  Gagarin Nzhdeh

                  Gagarin ??????
                  laughing

                  Wow Yomayo laughing To tears!!!
                  Garegin Nzhdeh -Garegin Ter-Harutyunyan
              2. Oquzyurd
                Oquzyurd 12 October 2020 20: 35
                +2
                Apparently, many still do not understand the openness, tolerance, mentality of the Azerbaijani people. Who knows, who understands, and wholeheartedly supports my wonderful people. Everyone needs to show this video to understand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir8Z4XIxXcQ
        2. icant007
          icant007 12 October 2020 22: 00
          +3
          Quote: Professor
          There are not even the ruins of synagogues.


          Ai well done professor. Drew the line)
      2. Volodin
        Volodin 12 October 2020 17: 11
        +8
        Quote: V1er
        Why do you support the conflict of Muslims and Turks in this, and not the Christian Armenians and fraternal Russia?

        Read the philosophy of the "Israelite brothers" (all the more religious), you will understand a lot. The brotherhood of peoples is completely absent there, initially, historically. One can at least somehow recall him "like" when something from the Holocaust series, and even then under a very specific sauce, is presented with such a "brotherhood". When everything is bad - "come, help". How they helped: "And we did not ask much ..." Well, in general - that Muslims, that Christians, that Buddhists, that sectarians - everything is "give a damn about it."
        1. Professor
          Professor 12 October 2020 17: 15
          0
          All nations are equal on the one hand, and there is no brotherhood of nations on the other. This is nothing new. So it was and so it will be.
        2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 17: 54
          0
          Quote: Volodin
          The brotherhood of peoples is completely absent there

          and where is it present? There can be no "brotherhood". There is tolerance for the neighborhood with another ethnic group - that's all. Or do you mean assimilation and loss of identity by it?
          1. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 12 October 2020 20: 37
            +1
            Apparently, many still do not understand the openness, tolerance, mentality of the Azerbaijani people. Who knows, who understands, and wholeheartedly supports my wonderful people. Everyone needs to show this video to understand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir8Z4XIxXcQ
      3. Vasya Lozhkin
        Vasya Lozhkin 12 October 2020 17: 19
        -1
        Armenians are not brothers of the Russian Federation, and Russia does not officially consider Karabakh to be the territory of Armenia
    5. loki565
      loki565 12 October 2020 16: 47
      +2
      In the video there are 4 shot down An 2 maybe the same number did not get into the frame, only the number of downed cornmen does not matter.
    6. Observer2014
      Observer2014 12 October 2020 18: 52
      +5
      Lie so lie. Just why 18, and 17 or 19? Prime numbers are easier to read
      Azerbaijan has only 25 of them Su-16, plus three kill. I am silent. I’m waiting for the Armenians to destroy the Su-25 in the second round. Another two (combat training) remained according to Armenian calculations. There were already 514 tanks. Cool. Azerbaijan has 340 of them. Therefore, let's face it, the Armenians are very close to the complete destruction of the Azerbaijani army in the literal sense of the word. Everything is according to their official count. In a week, apparently, they will go to the second round.
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 12 October 2020 20: 33
        +1
        Quote: Observer2014
        Lie so lie. Just why 18, and 17 or 19? Prime numbers are easier to read
        Azerbaijan has only 25 of them Su-16, plus three kill. I am silent. I’m waiting for the Armenians to destroy the Su-25 in the second round. Another two (combat training) remained according to Armenian calculations. There were already 514 tanks. Cool. Azerbaijan has 340 of them. Therefore, let's face it, the Armenians are very close to the complete destruction of the Azerbaijani army in the literal sense of the word. Everything is according to their official count. In a week, apparently, they will go to the second round.

        So they fix them, and again throw them into battle! lol
  • SaLaR
    SaLaR 12 October 2020 16: 32
    0
    As they say ... Who will turn Whom .........)
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 12 October 2020 16: 33
    +1
    Like, there were big losses of An-2 in an unmanned version?
  • Coconut
    Coconut 12 October 2020 16: 34
    +6
    Armenians and Azerbaijanis ... my dears ... beat F 16 together !! ..and you will have happiness and peace lol
    1. MTN
      MTN 12 October 2020 16: 42
      -2
      Quote: Coco
      Armenians and Azerbaijanis ... my dears ... knock down F 16 together!

      in the 90s, the Armenians decided to be together with F16 and not fight against them. It's just that fate tied them to Russia. Pashinyan corrects.
      1. Coconut
        Coconut 12 October 2020 17: 23
        -1
        No matter how we spin .. we will shoot down .. together .. F 16
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 19: 34
          +1
          Quote: Coco
          No matter how we spin .. we will shoot down .. together .. F 16

          and "you" is who?
  • MKPU-115
    MKPU-115 12 October 2020 16: 39
    +3
    On a drum (not censored). The more they kill each other, the better, the smarter they will be.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 12 October 2020 16: 52
    0
    Quote: loki565
    And exactly what is the Su25 or is it another An2

    An-2 under the cover of F-16 ....
    1. Yngvar
      Yngvar 12 October 2020 17: 41
      +4
      These are two An-2!
      It's just that one was written Su-25, and the second F-16!
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  • Master
    Master 12 October 2020 17: 05
    +3
    Well, everything is only 1)). For reference, the Azerbaijan Air Force is only 19 su25. Today the 18th was shot down. And 500 more tanks. Next week they will go to the second round))
  • Gvardeetz77
    Gvardeetz77 12 October 2020 17: 06
    +5
    Quote: bessmertniy
    Our position may be simple - to propose to both - the USSR. repeat

    Both those and others do not love us much and do not really respect us, why do we need them? Few freeloaders contain?
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 19: 18
      0
      Quote: Gvardeetz77
      Few freeloaders contain?

      and who is Russia's kept woman today?
      1. andreykolesov123
        andreykolesov123 13 October 2020 17: 28
        0
        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        and who is Russia's kept woman today?


  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 12 October 2020 17: 21
    +4
    If the US Army had inflicted such damage, an atomic bomb would have been dropped on them. 515 tanks !, 168 UAVs!
  • RUSLAN
    RUSLAN 12 October 2020 17: 24
    +4
    I propose to help both, so as not to be bad for any of them ... Namely, to deport men of military age to their historical homeland!
  • faiver
    faiver 12 October 2020 17: 51
    +2
    it is optimal to take away weapons from both sides and let them figure it out with their fists, this kindergarten has gored - hundreds of damaged tanks, dozens of downed aircraft, they should already run out of equipment.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 12 October 2020 18: 08
      -5
      When Azerbaijan exhausts and gouges the army of Karabakh, then the war and equipment will end and then we will be able to count all the killed, since all the equipment will be taken to several places - burial grounds.
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 12 October 2020 18: 12
    +5
    Quote: saigon
    Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
    Today, 16: 20
    0
    The Karabakh authorities accused Baku of continuing the offensive, Yerevan calculated the enemy's losses
    Soon all the people of Karabakh will be disposed of. Even the flowers you can take to the Embassy of Armenia. Let a tear come in. You will have a drink.
    A complaint
    Vasya Lozhkin
    Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
    Today, 16: 19
    0
    The Karabakh authorities accused Baku of continuing the offensive, Yerevan calculated the enemy's losses
    A..rtsakh not long to stink. These are shelling of despair.
    A complaint
    Vasya Lozhkin
    Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
    Today, 16: 14
    -1
    "Infantry in front of tanks": strange tactics of Armenian troops are discussed on the net
    Armenian women give birth to new
    A complaint
    Vasya Lozhkin
    Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
    Today, 11: 52
    +3
    Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan: operational advantage along the entire front line of our army
    The insolent Armenian animal is still snarling, but it must be finished off
    A complaint
    Vasya Lozhkin
    Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
    Today, 06: 59
    -14 qualifying.
    Nagorno-Karabakh announced a disrupted Azerbaijani offensive in the north-east direction
    This is the resettlement of the occupying population. , not genocide. Genocide is a formulation for the goyim. Stolen lands are returned to the owners. Armenians can go to the "New Ar..akh" -Sochi and Krasnodar. South of the Russian Federation then Ar..akh
    A complaint
    Vasya Lozhkin
    Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
    Today, 06: 56
    -11 qualifying.
    Nagorno-Karabakh announced a disrupted Azerbaijani offensive in the north-east direction
    The re-education of the Armenians continues. Artsakh Kaput
    A complaint
    Vasya Lozhkin
    Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
    Today, 05: 43
    -12 qualifying.
    The bets on the S-300PMU-2 and the Iron Dome will turn into a complete fiasco for Baku. The unused trump card of the Armenian missile forces and artillery
    Armenians do not gather more than 2. You can get a pumpkin. Bombs and rockets fall from above.
    A complaint
    Vasya Lozhkin
    Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
    Today, 04: 38
    -1
    "Armenian soldiers lost faith in their commanders": Azerbaijan's Defense Ministry presented a summary of the battles during the "truce"
    The more Dashnaks bang along with their sings, the cleaner the air will be.
    A complaint
    Vasya Lozhkin
    Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
    Today, 04: 36
    0
    "Armenian soldiers lost faith in their commanders": Azerbaijan's Defense Ministry presented a summary of the battles during the "truce"
    It will be over soon. Ar..sakh kaput. "Valiant" Armenians will not gather more than two. Jabrail Azerov, Hadrut Azerov. Soon Fizuli Azerov and Pashinyan Kaput
    A complaint
    Vasya Lozhkin
    Vasya Lozhkin (Vasya Lozhkin)
    Today, 04: 32
    0
    "Armenian soldiers lost faith in their commanders": Azerbaijan's Defense Ministry presented a summary of the battles during the "truce"
    And even then, all these Dashnaks Baghramyanov was protected by the head Dashnak Mikoyan. Kind Stalin did not put this Baghramyan with Cargo to the wall for Kharkov 42g
    A complaint

    Vyatka is purely a ghoul, however.
    Or maybe the daughter of a Turkish officer is hiding under this nickname.
    1. Vasya Lozhkin
      Vasya Lozhkin 12 October 2020 21: 20
      +4
      Calm down the wife of an Armenian soldier
  • Victorm
    Victorm 12 October 2020 18: 20
    -6
    Quote: V1er
    How many Russian bases are there in Azerbaijan?
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    How many times has Azerbaijan helped Russia?
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    Which side will you take if tomorrow there is a war with Turkey or NATO?
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    Maybe Azerbaijan is in the CSTO and EVZAR? What does this all mean?
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    If after Aliyev a pro-Turkish pro-NATO candidate comes and sees that Turkey is strong, helped with Karabakh, destroyed Armenia,
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    NATO and the United States guarantee security to Azerbaijan and even the division of Iran and the Caucasus. What will Azerbaijan choose?

    Not a single base. There was Gabala, it made no sense, they closed it. Why would Russia need a base in Azerbaijan if he was an ally? - as you can see, a fairly modern and powerful army, a state the size of Belarus and the territory and population. Better a strong self-sufficient ally, you don't need to spend money on the base, by the way, than an eternal beggar and whiner sitting on your neck.
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    Azerbaijan has officially undertaken a non-alignment obligation, it is outside the military blocs. And by the way, this was done, among other things, so that Russia felt calmer and Iran, by the way, too.
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    Aliyev made hints - they gave hints in response to the "lapel turn".
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    If, under the leadership of I. Aliyev, Azerbaijan liberates the occupied lands, the next president will be Heydar Ilhamovich Aliyev, the one who mostly speaks at home and most importantly thinks in Russian will not be pro-Turkish.
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    They cannot guarantee this while Georgia and ... Armenia will not achieve their goal and become NATO members. But in this case, neither Georgia nor Armenia will block Azerbaijan's entry into NATO, NATO will not allow the partition of Iran and the unification of northern and southern Azerbaijan.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 12 October 2020 18: 23
    0
    Quote: V1er
    Why do you support the conflict of Muslims and Turks in this, and not the Christian Armenians and fraternal Russia?

    Why was Orthodox Russia at war with Orthodox Georgia, including on the side of the Muslim Abkhazians, and now relies on the Gregorian Armenians in Transcaucasia? ...
  • Victorm
    Victorm 12 October 2020 18: 25
    -5
    Quote: faiver
    it is optimal to take away weapons from both sides and let them figure it out with their fists, this kindergarten has gored - hundreds of damaged tanks, dozens of downed aircraft, they should already run out of equipment.

    Well, start with the RF Ministry of Defense laughing there are such reports on Syria, Azerbaijanis and Armenians are just children against the background of Shoigu and company lol
  • motorized rifle
    motorized rifle 12 October 2020 19: 50
    +8
    As Mueller said in "Seventeen Moments of Spring": "I love the silent, if a friend is silent, then this is a friend, if an enemy is an enemy." The same is about Azerbaijan. Here they honestly declare that Russia is a partner (economic, military, etc.), not a brother. Turkey is a fraternal country (the essence of the senior). That they are fighting for their own (Karabakh - Karabakh, but seven of their regions must be beaten off). This is some kind of non-diplomatic frankness, unlike Pashinyan and Lukashenko, everything is clear here and the responsibility for this is clearly spelled out, unlike the last mentioned characters. And as the Russian proverb says: "It's easier to cut a raised head," if that ... And the policy of Pashinyan and Lukashenko (by the way) resembles the trajectory of a car with a drunk driver on the ice of Lake Baikal at night. I *, even when Pashinyan just came to power, assumed that Aliyev would take advantage of his (Pashinyan's) Russophobia in order to try to resolve the Karabakh issue, and if he did not use it, he would be stupid. And if Aliyev does not encroach on the territory of Armenia, he will resolve some issues. And of course, nowhere do they lie so much as in war and hunting. (from)
    * (last letter of the alphabet)
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  • deniso
    deniso 12 October 2020 20: 02
    +1
    What then did the Armenians shoot down? Mountain eagle?
  • One Uncle
    One Uncle 12 October 2020 21: 26
    0
    Quote: MTN
    Quote: bessmertniy
    Our position may be simple - to propose to both - the USSR.

    When you write this, one question immediately bothers me. Are you aware that the very first who voted for the collapse of the USSR was Armenia, and in Azerbaijan they held a vote and almost 93% were against for the collapse of the USSR? Did you know about this?

    Excuse me, did you ask the question exactly like that? Collapse of the USSR?
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 12 October 2020 21: 43
      0
      Voting was a question, you are for the preservation of the USSR, or against. Azerbaijan held a vote and 93% of the people who voted ticked the box for the preservation of the USSR. In Armenia, they decided to ignore and refused to organize the voting. Few people talk about this and remember. But for understanding that time, the mood of people in Azerbaijan and Armenia, this is very significant,
  • One Uncle
    One Uncle 12 October 2020 21: 50
    -1
    Quote: Oquzyurd
    Voting was a question, you are for the preservation of the USSR, or against. Azerbaijan held a vote and 93% of the people who voted ticked the box for the preservation of the USSR. In Armenia, they decided to ignore and refused to organize the voting. Few people talk about this and remember. But for understanding that time, the mood of people in Azerbaijan and Armenia, this is very significant,

    When was Operation Ring performed?
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 12 October 2020 22: 03
      -1
      No, but everything is clear with you. I don’t argue with a fan of Ararat, since I don’t like to talk with emptiness. Dosvidos.
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    3. icant007
      icant007 12 October 2020 22: 34
      +1
      The purpose of the operation was to eliminate illegal armed groups.
      Another thing is that the Armenian propaganda fanned out almost genocide from Operation Ring.
  • One Uncle
    One Uncle 12 October 2020 22: 27
    +1
    Quote: Oquzyurd
    No, but everything is clear with you. I don’t argue with a fan of Ararat, since I don’t like to talk with emptiness. Dosvidos.

    yes, don't waste your time. I'm not your target audience, so to speak wassat
    And yes, I am also discouraged from arguing with Azerbaijanis on social media about the conflict. But I keep on "crying and gnawing on the cactus" wassat
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