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They will not stop at provocations. What will the United States do against SP-2?

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The confrontation between Russia and the United States and its satellites continues over the construction and launch of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. There is no doubt that even if the SP-2 is completed, its opponents will not accept it.


Vanessa Desem of the American publication Bloomberg is convinced that due to the economic downturn caused by the coronavirus pandemic, the European market does not yet need large volumes of gas. So Angela Merkel and Vladimir Putin can take a kind of timeout for the construction of the gas pipeline.

Without Russian gas pipeline SP-2 in winter 2020-2021 Europe will cope, but next year, most likely, it will not be superfluous. According to Desm, the fact that the accelerated pace of construction is not needed now by either Moscow or Berlin is evidenced by the almost complete absence of a worthy reaction from the top leadership of the Russian Federation and the Federal Republic of Germany to the fine issued by Poland to Gazprom.

Meanwhile, delays in construction and launch could significantly weaken Russia's position on the European gas market. According to the American publication, now the European Union has diversified gas supplies, receiving it not only from Russia, but also from the United States, Qatar, and Algeria. Given the overall decline in gas prices, LNG has become more affordable, although pipeline gas remains cheaper, of course.

Another potential risk for Russia's position in the energy market is the search for new energy sources that are more environmentally friendly. Now the green parties across Europe are opposed to the construction of oil and gas pipelines. If earlier gas was considered as a more environmentally friendly alternative to coal, now the situation has changed: European ecologists are no longer satisfied with "blue fuel".

There is no doubt that the American authorities will try with maximum benefit to use influential European environmental organizations and green parties to prevent, if not the construction and launch, then at least the full functioning of Nord Stream 2.

Interestingly, in the United States itself, environmental movements do not enjoy the same influence on political life as in Europe. But in the European Union, the United States supports left-wing ecological organizations precisely as a tool to hinder the economic development of European countries. Now this tool has come in handy in the confrontation with Russia.

At the same time, a number of experts are convinced that if Europe now has no problems with gas reserves, then after the EU economy recovers from the consequences of the pandemic, these problems will appear. Then the delays in the construction and launch of Nord Stream 2 may start to negatively affect the situation in the European energy market.

The alternative in this case, according to the Americans, is to increase LNG supplies from the United States to Europe. That is, Uncle Sam's media do not even hide the main essence of American interest in the SP-2: ensuring competitive advantages for liquefied natural gas supplied from the United States.

Do not forget about the numerous provocations, starting from such a "joke" as история with the poisoning of Alexei Navalny and ending with bloody conflicts, which can be started in order to divert the attention of Russia and European countries from the gas pipeline.

The United States is a master at unleashing such wars and revolutions, and there is very little doubt that if it is necessary to prevent the launch of the SP-2, Washington will not hesitate to destabilize the situation in the countries bordering on Russia. The Belarusian events are just a warning from overseas "comrades", if necessary, the United States can provoke even more serious and tragic in their consequences situations, using carefully nurtured satellites on the western borders of our country.
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  1. Woodman
    Woodman 13 October 2020 10: 07 New
    -2
    Do not forget about the numerous provocations, starting from such a "joke" as the story of the poisoning of Alexei Navalny
    This is how they can poison all their supporters ...
    1. Alexey Sommer
      Alexey Sommer 13 October 2020 10: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Lesovik
      This is how they can poison all their supporters ...

      Not only supporters, everyone will be poisoned if necessary.
      World War II, World War I set fire, just go!
      They were not sorry for 100 million! And you say the supporters will run out. hi
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 13 October 2020 12: 02 New
      0
      The United States is a master at unleashing such wars and revolutions, and there is very little doubt that if it is necessary to prevent the launch of the SP-2, Washington will stop before destabilizing the situation in the countries bordering on Russia.

      Navalny is still flowers, but Solzhenitsin is "YES"!
      1. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 13 October 2020 15: 42 New
        +1
        But is there anyone who doubts that the US will CONSTANTLY come up with various nasty things against SP-2 and its participants? And what will they come up with ... Their fantasy is rich! And there is plenty of meanness.
  2. Hypertension
    Hypertension 13 October 2020 10: 12 New
    26
    Without Russian gas pipeline SP-2 in winter 2020-2021 Europe will cope, but next year

    This year was difficult, but next year ... Ukraine has not yet frozen without Russian gas, but next year ... the United States is about to disintegrate. Next year, of course ... "Next Year" is our temporal weapon. Accuracy - so-so, but at least someone, someday, may hurt.
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 13 October 2020 13: 38 New
      +1
      Everyone will die tomorrow - Americans, Germans, Turks, British ... repeat And we. crying But everything will be fine.
      1. Hypertension
        Hypertension 13 October 2020 17: 01 New
        +4
        Quote: bessmertniy
        Everyone will die tomorrow

        Judging by your nickname, not everyone will die ... But if we die, we will go to heaven, and they will just ... die.
  3. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 13 October 2020 10: 13 New
    +1
    At the same time, a number of experts are convinced that if Europe has no problems with gas reserves now, then after the EU economy recovers from the consequences of the pandemic, these problems will appear.
    With the pandemic, the question ... the second round has gone, how quickly will it be dealt with and how quickly the economy will recover.
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 13 October 2020 13: 45 New
      +1
      The coronavirus just came in handy for those political elites who should have been responsible for their failure to cope with the crisis in their countries. The old and the weak die more, and the healthy simply cannot be so busy that the economy grows.
  4. HAM
    HAM 13 October 2020 10: 46 New
    -4
    It would be nice to do both with Bulgaria ... you don’t want ... so with Germany ... losses, yes, losses, but then they can be compensated when Europe grows wiser and does not live with someone else's mind ...
    1. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 13 October 2020 10: 54 New
      +4
      What about Bulgaria?

      The pipe to Serbia still goes through it. Yes, plus a good discount on gas. They have not lost anything at all.
      1. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 13 October 2020 12: 20 New
        -2
        ... What about Bulgaria?

        Hands off Bulgaria -
        One of the few EU countries where they treat Russians well
        1. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 13 October 2020 15: 15 New
          -2
          Look, there are so many drawbacks for a truthful comment about the good attitude of Bulgarians towards Russians, someone clearly wants to embroil Russians and Bulgarians, the hand of ill-wishers from .....
        2. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 16 October 2020 15: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: Vadim_888
          One of the few EU countries where they treat Russians well

          somehow strange they "treat" ... you mean the tourists from whom they cut the loot? Well, yes, they treat the dough very well. and so I will remind you that in all the wars Bulgaria fought against Russia.
      2. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 13 October 2020 12: 22 New
        0
        ... The pipe to Serbia still goes through it. Yes, plus a good discount on gas. They have not lost anything at all.

        Lost, the pipeline goes through Turkey, which means transit duties, could get gas even cheaper
        1. karima
          karima 13 October 2020 14: 37 New
          0
          Quote: Vadim_888
          Lost, the pipeline goes through Turkey, which means transit duties, could get gas even cheaper
          Bulgarians don't think so. For them, a small country, it is better to be covered by Turkey. And Turkey, it's so simple, the prices cannot be raised.
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 13 October 2020 14: 51 New
            +2
            Quote: karima
            For them, a small country, it is better to be covered by Turkey

            Turkey does not cover Bulgaria, but has (on occasion). Actually, like the EU and the US. And how Bulgaria thinks to itself, in general, is not particularly interested in any of the active geopolitical players. Just turn the right side ...
            1. karima
              karima 13 October 2020 14: 59 New
              +2
              Quote: Hagen
              Just turn the right side ...
              Bulgaria is possible, but Turkey is not. Therefore, it is better for Bulgaria to be behind Turkey. On them - they are so much better.
              1. Pereira
                Pereira 13 October 2020 15: 02 New
                +2
                Genetic fear of the Turks.
                1. karima
                  karima 13 October 2020 15: 41 New
                  0
                  Do you really think that such a thing exists?
                  Quote: Pereira
                  Genetic fear of the Turks.
                  Cultured, most likely sucked in with mother's milk. And the culture is changing.
              2. Hagen
                Hagen 13 October 2020 16: 23 New
                0
                Quote: karima
                Bulgaria is possible, but Turkey is not.

                Did I mention Turkey in this context?
                Quote: karima
                On them - they are so better.

                So the United States thinks so. Only the opinion of the Bulgarians, like the Turks, was not asked by you or they ... wassat
      3. ccsr
        ccsr 13 October 2020 12: 27 New
        +7
        Quote: Jacket in stock
        The pipe to Serbia still goes through it.

        Serbia consumes huge amounts of Russian gas? Do not be ridiculous, there is pure politics here, but Bulgaria itself does not receive the money that it could receive if the gas hub was built in it, and not in Turkey.
        Quote: Jacket in stock
        They have not lost anything at all.

        In the long term, they lost - and not only economically. Now, the forum's "Bulgarians" got excited, as soon as they saw Turkey's participation in the events in Nagorno-Karabakh. And how Erdogan will behave further, even in Greece they do not know, but the Bulgarians quickly realized and they are all "in principle" on the side of Armenia.
        1. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 13 October 2020 13: 44 New
          +2
          ... Serbia consumes huge amounts of Russian gas?

          To Serbia in transit, further in the plans to Austria, Hungary and possibly the Czech Republic and Slovakia, bypassing Ukraine, Poland
    2. Vadim_888
      Vadim_888 13 October 2020 12: 24 New
      -3
      In the light of recent events in the Caucasus, there is a chance that a new pipeline to Bulgaria will have to be laid, already bypassing Turkey
      1. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 13 October 2020 12: 42 New
        +1
        More precisely, to build an LNG terminal, because sanctions may be imposed across the Crimean waters
        1. Romario_Argo
          Romario_Argo 13 October 2020 13: 29 New
          +3
          because through the water area of ​​Crimea, they can impose sanctions

          It is better for the USA to impose sanctions on Rusal (aluminum), VSMPO-Ovisma (titanium)
          - some kind of double standards
          What is it that the mattress covers do not have enough snares (???)
          against RusAl were introduced but removed. the US economy on aluminum nearly collapsed
          Let OVISM be sanctioned - so that the Boeing flies under the tomatoes
          1. Vadim_888
            Vadim_888 13 October 2020 13: 40 New
            +3
            ... It is better for the USA to impose sanctions on Rusal (aluminum), VSMPO-Ovisma (titanium)
            - some kind of double standards
            What is it that the mattress covers do not have enough snares (???)

            What are the sanctions kind?
            Deripaska lifted sanctions after sale of controlling stake in Rusal to amer

            https://youtu.be/I9RPEcBxiXo
        2. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 13 October 2020 13: 50 New
          -3
          Oh, minus, the Turks were afraid that they would lose the transit of Russian gas to Europe as a lever of pressure on the Russian Federation lol
      2. Petro_tut
        Petro_tut 13 October 2020 18: 43 New
        -1
        Wah, someone will find, someone will lose bully
    3. Roman070280
      Roman070280 13 October 2020 12: 54 New
      -2
      And what did you get with Bulgaria ??
      In spite of this, they were given a pipe to Turkey .. is this a victory or something ??)
      Well, at the expense of losses .. there and so it is not known when everything would pay off .. And if also with new losses ..
      1. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 13 October 2020 13: 41 New
        +2
        ... In spite of this, they were given a pipe to Turkey .. is this a victory or something ??)

        Yeah, for bad mom, I froze my ears
      2. Berg berg
        Berg berg 13 October 2020 20: 21 New
        +1
        In spite of this, Balgaria abandoned the Russian gas pipe, and with Turkey it was an alternative, but not the best option. the best would be to temporarily close all streams for repairs, so that people in the west would think.
  5. Alien From
    Alien From 13 October 2020 10: 46 New
    -1
    They will shit on every corner, you will not have to expect anything else from these jackals!
  6. Crabio
    Crabio 13 October 2020 10: 54 New
    +2
    What can I say. In the "unpoisoned" form, there was little more sense from Navalny than nothing. With his scanty portions of support within Russia. And so - at least some kind of benefit. There is no point in talking about the "poisoning" itself - it is such a clumsy fake that decent people do not discuss it in principle.
  7. Gardamir
    Gardamir 13 October 2020 10: 57 New
    +2
    The confrontation is certainly interesting. But everyone buys American securities? Lumin, are they driving titanium to America?
    1. Vadim_888
      Vadim_888 13 October 2020 12: 16 New
      +3
      The package of sanctions is already being discussed in the European Parliament, in connection with the poisoning of Navalny,
      India is ready to replace titanium in the American market, aluminum is not a problem,
      Gas through opal will be connected from Turkmenistan and from Leviathan LNG for now, Greece already has a terminal, so Europe is ready to impose sanctions against Russia
      And yes, the pipe supplier to Gazprom has already received lave ... and swung at the power of Siberia 2
      But they don't want to build a pipeline to Crimea with water ... request
      1. ZEMCH
        ZEMCH 13 October 2020 14: 42 New
        -1
        Quote: Vadim_888
        India is ready to replace titanium in the American market,

        Yeah, India can supply titanium, but who will make parts from it? Nobody has titanium processing technology like VISMA
        1. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 13 October 2020 16: 34 New
          +2
          ... Nobody has titanium processing technology like VISMA

          RF supplies titanium in slabs, in powder, tubes and fittings, titanium scrap,

          Do you think the Americans do not know how to handle it?
          Then why do they need powders, slabs and scrap?
  8. Sergey39
    Sergey39 13 October 2020 10: 59 New
    +1
    "Angela Merkel and Vladimir Putin may take a kind of timeout for the construction of the gas pipeline."
    Somehow late in the day, they realized. They have been led by the nose for six months already. In the next two years, the need for JV 2 is not expected. Let them spend on counteraction. As the excitement subsides, the construction will be completed. Moreover, they started this fuss with SP 3 for hydrogen.
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 13 October 2020 12: 58 New
      0
      "Angela Merkel and Vladimir Putin may take a kind of timeout for the construction of the gas pipeline."

      Well, in fairness, Merkel and Putin can really take a timeout ..
      They cannot pay a mortgage on the profit from this gas.
      And they already got some money on this construction .. so nothing catastrophic for them happens ..
  9. iouris
    iouris 13 October 2020 11: 16 New
    0
    Banned - that's all. Then they will appropriate it. And you have to obey.
  10. Kushka
    Kushka 13 October 2020 11: 18 New
    +2
    Quote: Alien From
    They will shit on every corner, you will not have to expect anything else from these jackals!

    In any confrontation there was ALWAYS a "dirty game"
    (even in yard football there was a hand / there was no hand)
    What's in boxing, what's in football, what's in cycling, and there
    after all million dollars. revolve. Immediately the price of the issue is billion.
    Out in the ring - hold the blow, get ready for the blows
    below the waist, elbows, after the gong. And no need to whine about the rules
    remember how many times you were "made" not according to the rules
    road to work.
  11. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 13 October 2020 11: 33 New
    +3
    Do not forget about the numerous provocations, ranging from such a "joke" as the story of the poisoning of Alexei Navalny and ending with bloody conflicts that can be started to divert the attention of Russia and European countries from the gas pipeline.

    It is not news to any of the adequate and sane people that the West's "cherished dream" of discrediting the socialist economy by the collapse of the USSR (the world's first socialist state) and the physical destruction of all economic ties and alliances was successfully implemented.
    It was necessary to draw lessons from the mutual cooperation of the two systems in the field of science, culture, literature, medicine, sports, etc., as well as highlight useful aspects from the very beginning. No one has any claims about the bloody conflicts unleashed against the USSR. Except for Hitler, names are no longer remembered there. And here, some pitiful pipe, the cost and value of which is not comparable to the losses of the USSR in WWII, constantly creates some obstacles.
    Excuse me, but apart from getting rid of the dependence on gas transit through Ukraine, does this "SP-2" have any significant significance for the existence of Russia? And, most importantly, those clever uncles, drawing up contracts for supplies, contracts for lease, for construction, could not foresee all the nuances, could they not foresee the "pitfalls" of this event?
    It is a pity and ridiculous situation when poisoning (even a tragic stay in a coma) of an ordinary citizen can cause such a response, in which companies are simply eager to get rid of the planned profit, and the citizens of Europe - to expose themselves to the risks of freezing or heating with wood.
    They will not stop at provocations. What will the United States do against SP-2?

    Everyone knows this. There are hundreds of examples of the notorious "American aid". There are American sanctions that have set the teeth on edge. There are obvious provocations in Syria. There is a gross violation of international law in different parts of the world ... What else is expected from the United States? Repentance? Like: "Sorry, we were wrong, invading the spheres of the economy of sovereign states, and all our military provocations and aggression against" innocent countries in front of the world community "are just a manifestation of cynicism towards the lives of citizens of other states and nothing more than planned genocide in the name of their own selfish goals ... "
    Why do we need these examples of weakness and toothlessness of our state? What should we understand for ourselves? The fact that power in the country belongs to dependent rulers or that the competence of the specialists who run this pipe is limited by knowledge of the laws and methods of "forecourt thimblers" and hucksters from the city "flea market" of the 90s of the last century?
    hi
  12. Roman070280
    Roman070280 13 October 2020 12: 51 New
    0
    According to Desm, the fact that the accelerated pace of construction is not needed now by either Moscow or Berlin is evidenced by the almost complete absence of a worthy reaction from the top leadership of the Russian Federation and the Federal Republic of Germany to the fine issued by Poland to Gazprom.


    Well, yes .. if something doesn’t work out, you can pretend that it’s not painful and wanted ..
  13. ZEMCH
    ZEMCH 13 October 2020 14: 38 New
    +3
    The alternative in this case, according to the Americans, is to increase LNG supplies from the United States to Europe.

    Look at the shoulder delivery across the Atlantic and the shoulder from Ust-Luga. The Americans will buy gas in Ust-Luga and drive it to Europe. It's more profitable
    1. Egor53
      Egor53 14 October 2020 00: 09 New
      0
      Only LNG from Yamal will be as American as the gas going to Ukraine, Slovak.
      1. ZEMCH
        ZEMCH 14 October 2020 01: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: Egor53
        Only LNG from Yamal will be as American as the gas going to Ukraine, Slovak.

        In Ust-Luga, this is the Baltic)) there is gas not only from Yamal.
        Buyers take a wrapper)) They will be told American, they will believe)))
      2. ZEMCH
        ZEMCH 14 October 2020 01: 01 New
        +1
        By the way, the Americans have already done such a trick)))
  14. wow
    wow 13 October 2020 14: 52 New
    -1
    In a fight, you should always hit on the head and, as hard as possible. Then the arms and legs of the "opponent" will drop.
  15. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 13 October 2020 16: 39 New
    +1
    Who cares about the problems of Russian oligarchs? "Please be understanding," but we will raise the price of gas and petrol. This year the price of gas for the population of the Russian Federation has already doubled. Better tell us how hard life is for Ukraine and the Baltics without Russia.
  16. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 13 October 2020 18: 07 New
    0
    and where are the actual movements for the completion of the sp-2, Denmark even allowed the launch
  17. nnm
    nnm 13 October 2020 19: 27 New
    -1
    Without Russian gas pipeline SP-2 in winter 2020-2021 Europe will cope, but next year, most likely, it will not be superfluous.

    The point is not only and not so much in the volumes of gas, but in the fact that the direct supply of gas to Germany will reduce the cost and, accordingly, increase the competitiveness and margins of products. And each year of such "downtime" - not only billions of lost profits, but also the loss of markets occupied by the same Asian manufacturers.
  18. Petr Vladimirovich
    Petr Vladimirovich 13 October 2020 20: 15 New
    0
    Nowhere sounded, but how many children, grandchildren of the respected Angela M. have ...? Is all life for the sake of power?
    1. iouris
      iouris 13 October 2020 22: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Petr Vladimirovich
      and how many children, grandchildren, respected Angela M. have ...? Is all life for the sake of power?

      That's right: life for power. In other words, power is a means of scratching self-esteem, achieving comfort, wealth, etc.
    2. Avior
      Avior 13 October 2020 22: 59 New
      +1
      They have no children.
      There is a second husband, a professor-physicist
  19. kutuz
    kutuz 13 October 2020 23: 50 New
    +2
    Another insanity on how everyone sucks without Russian gas. "in the winter of 2020-2021. Europe will cope, but next year" - nothing will happen next year, Ukraine has already been unable to freeze for the seventh year, and there is already a queue for gas supplies to Europe.
  20. Egor53
    Egor53 14 October 2020 00: 06 New
    0
    Well, there can be no LNG supplies from the United States, and nowhere. America itself is critically short of gas, they buy it, not sell it.
    1. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 14 October 2020 06: 24 New
      0
      You are wrong, colleague. The US both buys and sells gas. And the desire to sell more and more.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 14 October 2020 07: 47 New
        0
        And production and liquefaction are increasing. Several LNG plants are under construction. And the real volumes for export will appear by 2025-2028 ..... there may also change the price. By this time, the United States is "bending" clients. However, then our LNG did not become harmful and bad and totalitarian. As a competitor.
  21. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 14 October 2020 07: 43 New
    0
    The Germans equated American LNG (or LNG in general) in ecology with coal. Small dirty trick.
  22. DrEng527
    DrEng527 14 October 2020 13: 26 New
    0
    I will express a thought that is not pleasant for many - it looks like the pipeline strategy of the GDP has failed in the case of the SP-2, and the Turkish Stream too. request The goal was to capture a larger share of the EU market than Gazprom had, which caused a sharp reaction from competitors, which could be calculated, but neglected out of greed. request Probably more forward-looking was the LNG project in Yamal. However, the implementation of both projects turned out to be excessive ... request It would be better if Gazprom invested this money in the gasification of Russia hi
  23. Cresta999
    Cresta999 14 October 2020 22: 31 New
    0
    I am not worried about not the interests of Europe, not the interests of America. I am interested in the interests of our country. Which, unfortunately, has now shrunk to just Russia. But at least so. Why are we selling our fuel? !! Moreover, we are proud that we do it for cheap and wholesale ?! To be honest, as a citizen of Russia, I feel like a prostitute. As if they were selling me. Leave to descendants instead of raising transport taxes and prices for gasoline and gas! Gasify our country. Stop selling yourself !!!