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"This is against Turkey, and this is good": Polish readers discuss the joint exercises of the Russian Federation and Egypt in the Black Sea

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Soon for the first time in stories Russian-Egyptian relations will host joint naval exercises of the two countries. The Russian Navy and the Egyptian Navy will take part in them.


The exercises "Bridge of Friendship - 2020" will be held in the Black Sea, where Egyptian warships will arrive through the Turkish straits of the Bosphorus and Dardanelles. The interaction of the military personnel of the two countries and the use of modern tactics of combat operations will be worked out.

Experts from Egypt add that the time, place and composition of the participants of the military exercises are a signal to the states of the region and the international community. It is noted that the joint Russian-Egyptian exercises are a response to the attempt by "some powers" to destabilize the situation in the Eastern Mediterranean. Turkey is clearly understood by "some powers" in this context.

The preparation of joint maneuvers was the subject of a recent three-day conference in Novorossiysk, in which the delegations of the fleets of the two countries took part.

The forthcoming joint exercises between Russia and Egypt are also being discussed in Poland. Readers of the Polish edition of Defense 24, which reported on the upcoming maneuvers, are actively commenting on this news.

One commentator expressed surprise that Egypt, a longtime U.S. ally, is cooperating with Russia in the military:

I always knew that Egypt is an ally of the United States, and here I read that Russia is practicing joint actions with Egypt! What is happening in the Mediterranean world?

Another expressed a version that all this is happening because of Turkey:

Egypt is angry with Turkey over Turkish claims to its exclusive economic zones in the eastern Mediterranean. It's the same with Israel, Greece, Cyprus and all the others.

Another reader seems pleased that Turkey's neighbors are trying to temper its ambitions:

This is against Turkey, which is good.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 12 October 2020 11: 24
    0
    Teaching is good. Moreover, the first sea ships with Egypt. Some especially zealous ones must be put in their place.
    1. fn34440
      fn34440 12 October 2020 11: 43
      -14 qualifying.
      "The Bridge of Friendship 2020 exercise will take place in the Black Sea, where Egyptian warships will arrive through the Turkish straits of the Bosphorus and Dardanelles."
      Will the Turks let them in? Knowing Erdogan .........
      1. Kurare
        Kurare 12 October 2020 11: 53
        15
        Quote: fn34440
        Will the Turks let them in? Knowing Erdogan ...

        hi And on what grounds should they not let them in?

        Even Erdogan will not be able to afford such a precedent, especially since the response from Egypt will be to close the passage to the Turks and ships going to Turkey through the Suez Canal.
        1. hrych
          hrych 12 October 2020 12: 34
          +8
          Actually, if not the freedom of passage of the straits, then Turkey would have been destroyed long ago. The Montreux Convention is the guarantor of the life of the Turkish state. You are absolutely right about Suez, and Turkey's dependence on Suez is much greater than that of Egypt on the Bosphorus. Egypt will survive, but Turkey will not.
          1. Kurare
            Kurare 12 October 2020 15: 43
            +2
            Quote: hrych
            The Montreux Convention is the guarantor of the life of the Turkish state.

            hi The geographical position of Turkey is generally a great trump card in the hands of Erdogan, and he, I must say, uses it quite skillfully.
        2. Temples
          Temples 12 October 2020 12: 40
          +2
          Quote: fn34440
          Will the Turks let them in? Knowing Erdogan .........

          "Instead of the Bosphorus, we can make two more straits, but Istanbul, unfortunately, will not exist."
          Foreign Minister Andrei Gromyko.
      2. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 12 October 2020 12: 42
        +3
        Quote: fn34440
        Will the Turks let them in? Knowing Erdogan .........

        Is Turkey a belligerent in the conflict with Egypt or Russia? No! And therefore, everything is in accordance with the Montreux Convention (a squadron with a total displacement of up to 15 tons (tonnage 000), individual ships not exceeding 30 tons, a stay time of up to 000 days).
    2. Eldorado
      Eldorado 12 October 2020 12: 35
      +3
      Exercises with the Egyptian Navy were also carried out in the USSR. In Egypt, there was one of the bases of the 5th Mediterranean Squadron of the USSR Navy.
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 12 October 2020 11: 25
    -3
    Tell me who is your friend?
    Tell me who is your enemy?
    So you have to see what comes of it!
  3. Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 12 October 2020 11: 25
    12
    This is against Turkey, which is good.

    For the first time I agree with the Pole.
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 12 October 2020 12: 36
      +3
      For the first time I agree with the Pole.


      Everyone loves Turkey, lately ... laughing
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 12 October 2020 20: 51
        +1
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        For the first time I agree with the Pole.


        Everyone loves Turkey, lately ... laughing

        Everyone "loved" Turkey "in previous times .. hiAnd there is also Egyptian power.
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 13 October 2020 08: 44
        0
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        Everyone loves Turkey, lately ...

        They do not love them yet, but one ought to love them by putting them in a certain position.
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt 12 October 2020 15: 13
      0
      Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
      For the first time I agree with the Pole.

      But I never agree with the Poles. Even when at first glance they seem to say sound things. The "Polish hussars" always have a double bottom. They sleep and see that Russia would get involved in another war with Turkey, or with someone else. Despite the fact that the anti-Russian rhetoric of the Poles is several times higher than that of the same Turks. Would you like the fourth section of Poland? It seems to me that with their ambition, it will happen faster.
  4. ZEMCH
    ZEMCH 12 October 2020 11: 26
    +4
    It is better to learn on exercises than in battle))
  5. DIM (a)
    DIM (a) 12 October 2020 11: 35
    0
    What kind of creatures are they, if only someone is against someone, something is plotting ...
    Churchill was definitely right.
  6. fn34440
    fn34440 12 October 2020 11: 41
    -4
    "One of the commentators expressed surprise, ...", "Another reader, it seems, is pleased that the neighboring countries of Turkey ...".
    In short, the "vast majority". One surprised and one pleased. Skabeeva in the know?
  7. Alien From
    Alien From 12 October 2020 11: 51
    0
    Really, the Poles have a brain awake))
    1. fn34440
      fn34440 12 October 2020 13: 02
      0
      "Is it possible that the Poles' brain woke up))"
      Didn't wake up. The neurons turned sour, and then, in two.
  8. Sergey39
    Sergey39 12 October 2020 11: 52
    0
    I wonder if the Mistrals will take part in the exercises?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 12 October 2020 12: 32
      +3
      Speaking of Mistrals, President Oland was pragmatic and France milked Sisi and his sponsors well. Macron is not flexible and as a result, Sisi stamped his foot, France was left without Egyptian contracts at all. Even touched Oland was profiled laughing .

      In summary:
      About 1 billion dollars went to Italy, where Egypt bought helicopters from Leonardo. I immediately took 32 cars.


      They also threw the French through the fleet. Despite Normandy, which became Misrom, Sisi ended up halting negotiations in 2019 on new frigates. And already on September 30, 2020, a contract for 1,2 billion euros was signed with Fincantieri and the Italian government. 2 frigates already built for the Italian Navy - Emilio Bianchi and Spartaco Schergat, will be transferred to Egypt.



      Egypt will also order a reconnaissance satellite from Leonardo, pre-contract preparation for 24 M-346 aircraft, and a series of Falaj patrol ships from Fincantieri is underway.


      This is what it means, ignorance of etiquette and inability to hold onto words:
      According to the publication, France's relations with Egypt deteriorated sharply after the visit of French President Emmanuel Macron to Cairo in January 2019, when Macron publicly criticized Egyptian President Marshal Abdel al-Sisi for the human rights situation and pressure on civil society, with these public attacks not agreed with the Egyptian side, and the Egyptian leader took Macron's actions as a personal insult.
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 12 October 2020 12: 58
        0
        And it seems that the sale of these two frigates to Egypt is just a warm-up before a much larger contract of 10 billion euros! There are 4 more frigates of the FREMM type (specially built for Egypt in Italy), up to 20 patrol ships such as: Falaj II (to be built in Egypt), the Eurofighter Typhoon squadron (20-30 vehicles). Egypt is seriously engaged in strengthening its defenses. The examples of Libya and Syria are close and very revealing ...
  9. Doccor18
    Doccor18 12 October 2020 11: 55
    -6
    Naval cooperation and international naval exercises are good both from a military and political point of view. But there would be more pennants in these exercises.
    And then the Turkish Navy is, at the moment, stronger than the Egyptian Navy and the Russian Black Sea Fleet combined.
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  11. iouris
    iouris 12 October 2020 12: 15
    -2
    The Poles do not want to defend Vienna.
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 12 October 2020 12: 44
      +6
      The Poles do not want to defend Vienna.


      In general, the Poles have always fought with the Turks with pleasure. And the commander of the battle for Vienna, in 1683, is Jan III Sobieski. This is the most vicious battle - 90 Turks, 000 Janissaries, against 12 European troops. They kicked the Turks fundamentally.

      Separately, Vladislav III Varnenchik (Yageilo) got to Varna to fight with the Turks.
  12. Oquzyurd
    Oquzyurd 12 October 2020 12: 51
    -3
    "Egypt is angry with Turkey because of the claims of the Turks to its exclusive economic zones in the eastern Mediterranean Sea" Polish tuparik, Turkey offers Egypt even more territories on the sea than Egypt now has.
  13. askort154
    askort154 12 October 2020 13: 50
    0
    The exercises "Bridge of Friendship - 2020" will be held in the Black Sea, where Egyptian warships will arrive through the Turkish straits of the Bosphorus and Dardanelles.

    But, if you undertake to write, then delve into the "topic" professionally. If the Egyptian ships decided to go to the Black Sea, then they must go sequentially: first the Dardanelles, and then the Bosphorus - but not the turnover. yes
  14. Ax Matt
    Ax Matt 12 October 2020 14: 27
    0
    What ships will the "Egyptian force" be represented? If, similar to the NATO countries, then this is just a gift to our Navy. They will practice identifying the enemy in direct contact ... drinks
  15. Giharka
    Giharka 12 October 2020 22: 53
    0
    As it often began to publish articles of the type "readers of Poland about this .... or that event in Russia." Why not Mongolian readers, Iranian readers, or other readers? Has the light turned like a wedge on the Poles because of their aggressive Russophobia?
  16. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 12 October 2020 22: 55
    0
    we always are and will be multi friendly neighbors on the Earth ball !!!
    ps if we are touched ...