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US press: Putin got what he wanted in Syria

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Five years ago, the Russian Federation brought its military contingent into Syria to fight international terrorism and provide assistance to President Bashar al-Assad. This move helped Moscow to increase its influence in the Middle East and North Africa.


Chris Miller writes about this in an article published by the American edition of Foreign Policy.

First attacks on terrorists in the Syrian province of Homs Russian aviation inflicted in 2015. Since then, the operation of the RF Armed Forces has been going on for five years.

Before the introduction of troops, Putin recalled the actions of the United States in the Middle East. "Where the Americans appeared, there was rampant violence and social catastrophe." According to the Russian president, our country intervened in the Syrian conflict to avoid these consequences.

According to Miller, it was not possible to achieve complete extinction of the conflict in five years. The expert believes that this is not the main thing, because the declared goals may not coincide with the real ones.

According to the author in the US press, ending the war in Syria was not Putin's goal. Miller claims that the Syrian conflict can end when the Kremlin wants it, but so far it is not necessary.

But Moscow managed to achieve real benefits for itself.

Putin got what he wanted
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Moscow has established itself in the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean. The military operation in Syria has become an excellent testing ground for testing new types of military equipment and improving the combat skills of military personnel. At the same time, Russia is not "bogged down" in Syria, as the USSR once did in Afghanistan, because it only provides support to actively operating government forces.

Miller notes that, although the President of the Russian Federation has already announced several times about the withdrawal of the contingent from Syria, in practice nothing of the kind has yet been observed.
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  1. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 12 October 2020 09: 25
    11
    For complete happiness, you need the oil fields of Syria and, maybe, gas on the shelf ... ... so that the government of Syria was solvent.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 12 October 2020 09: 27
      10
      ending the war in Syria was not Putin's goal. Miller claims that the Syrian conflict can end when the Kremlin wants it, but so far it is not necessary.


      Controversial moment yes .
      However, how can Russia, together with the Syrians, "send out" Turkey and the United States?
      According to journalists, "you just have to want it"...

      But the problem seems to be much deeper than the banal "unwillingness of Putin" ...
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 12 October 2020 09: 32
        0
        This can be understood in two ways ...
        1.Russia's departure and Assad's failure
        2. Termination of support in recapturing its territory further
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 12 October 2020 09: 38
          -3
          US press: Putin got what he wanted in Syria

          Putin has taken Syria from under the nose of the United States! yes
          1. Antidote
            Antidote 12 October 2020 09: 41
            +5
            Especially the east coast, yeah)
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 12 October 2020 09: 44
              -2
              Quote: Antidote
              Especially the east coast, yeah)

              Not all at once! His turn will come. yes
          2. Insurgent
            Insurgent 12 October 2020 09: 50
            -1
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Putin has taken Syria from under the nose of the United States!


            Please, without such reports, because it is very far from complete control over the territory of Syria by Russia and the SAR authorities ...

            In the meantime, the military personnel of the Russian Federation are still forced to pretend (presumably through force) to pretend that they see the Americans as "tourists" and take such "friendly" photos with them ...



            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 12 October 2020 10: 08
              +9
              Quote: Insurgent
              Please, without such reports, because it is very far from complete control over the territory of Syria by Russia and the SAR authorities ...

              And what is wrong? Is it not a fact that Putin did not let the United States, through the hands of jihadists, destroy Assad? And what about the "voluntary" destruction of chemical weapons by Assad, with a message from Russia? Thus, Putin took away from the United States their ability to attack Syria. But the United States has already celebrated its victory in Syria! And then a bummer in the face of Russia. yes
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 12 October 2020 10: 14
                -2
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                And what is wrong?


                "Not so" is that the most important, critical oil and gas-bearing regions of Syria are under US control, it is also not clear "from what fright" Turkey was allowed to "claw" in Idlib ...

                And HOW and WHEN this will all return to Syria is a question of questions.

                For the rest, beautiful marquise, everything is worthy of victorious reports. Urya-ah-ah-ah .... !!!
                1. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 12 October 2020 10: 24
                  0
                  Quote: Insurgent
                  "Not so" is that the most important, critical oil and gas-bearing regions of Syria are under US control, it is also not clear "from what fright" Turkey was allowed to "claw" in Idlib ...

                  What does this have to do with it? Agree: if not for Putin, the US would have had ALL Syria!
                  With regard to Syrian oil and gas: Syria must first gain strength in order to begin to return these fields under its control. Syria should do it! With our help, of course.
                  And Idlib will return to Syria! But not right now.
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 12 October 2020 10: 29
                    -3
                    Quote: СРЦ П-15
                    What does this have to do with it? Agree: if not for Putin, the US would have had ALL Syria!


                    This is a stage already passed, and the one who gets hung up on the past tactical success, perceiving them as laurels - will lose strategically.

                    Quote: СРЦ П-15
                    And Idlib will return to Syria! But not right now.


              2. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 12 October 2020 11: 03
                +6
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                But the United States has already celebrated its victory in Syria! And then a bummer in the face of Russia.

                You are somehow unclear about the goals of the United States in the affairs of the world community. Victory is not important to them. What is important is the destruction of developing economies and the destruction of possible allies of those who oppose it.
                Russia is assigned an unseemly role - spending energy and money in establishing order, thereby weakening its own economy.
                Do you know the global reasons why Russia should be present in Syria in the very community that has been created there? I don't. And Russia's attitude to the military intervention of other countries in Syrian affairs does not inspire confidence that someone got a "bummer" there ...
                1. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 12 October 2020 11: 58
                  -4
                  Quote: ROSS 42
                  You are somehow unclear about the goals of the United States in the affairs of the world community. Victory is not important to them. What is important is the destruction of developing economies and the destruction of possible allies of those who oppose it.

                  I perfectly represent everything! The capture of Syria by the hands of jihadists did it mean a developing economy? Here it is clear to the first grader what the United States wanted from Syria - chaos and confusion.
                  Quote: ROSS 42
                  Russia is assigned an unseemly role - spending energy and money in establishing order, thereby weakening its own economy.

                  Russia spends its efforts and resources in Syria for a reason: now we have our own base in the Mediterranean Sea and I think there will be more than one.
                  Quote: ROSS 42
                  Do you know the global reasons why Russia should be present in Syria in the very community that has been created there? I don't. And Russia's attitude to the military intervention of other countries in Syrian affairs does not inspire confidence that someone got a "bummer" there ...

                  The reasons why Russia is present in Syria I have mentioned above. And one more reason is the destruction of the militants there, and not in their underbelly.
                  In general, in Syria, everything is so twisted that it’s not immediately clear who is fighting with whom and against whom. But Putin managed to find that same golden mean, in which "the wolves are fed and the sheep are safe." As he likes to say: "the bird is biting by the grain ...", so he seems to adhere to this rule. hi
                  1. Karabin
                    Karabin 12 October 2020 12: 51
                    -1
                    Quote: СРЦ П-15
                    And one more reason is the destruction of the militants there, and not in their underbelly.

                    What kind of fighters? If ISIS, then the Russian Federation came into contact with them at a minimum, and the decisive contribution is still not ours. At the same time, the cells of the destroyed, here and there, are already opened on the territory of the Russian Federation. If there are other barmaleevs, then this is a small-town showdown.
                    1. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 12 October 2020 16: 42
                      0
                      Quote: Karabin
                      If ISIS, then the Russian Federation came into contact with them at a minimum

                      That is how it remains and you need to bomb them in Syria.
                  2. pin_code
                    pin_code 13 October 2020 06: 16
                    -1
                    What is the middle ??? he himself said that "you need to get wet in the toilet." so this was what had to be done. all partners would have breathed evenly and did not rock the boat, and not rant and adjust to these same "partners" (more precisely, obvious enemies).
            2. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 12 October 2020 10: 48
              -3
              I think on a personal level, these guys serve there ... with the same interests. Therefore, they can sincerely have a good relationship.
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 12 October 2020 10: 54
                -3
                Quote: Zaurbek
                I think on a personal level, these guys serve there ... with the same interests. Therefore, they can sincerely have a good relationship.


                Is it appropriate to talk about personal in a relationship at least geopolitical opponents carrying out orders of opposite nature ...

                " Forgive me Johnny, personal-personal, but today I have to kill you a little"...
            3. Roman070280
              Roman070280 12 October 2020 12: 01
              -2
              Why Friendly - in quotation marks ??
              The military itself has nothing special to share there ... they only do the work ..
              The carve-up goes exclusively between governments and the elite .. the warriors don't even know for what interests they are killing each other there ..
          3. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 12 October 2020 10: 46
            0
            Didn't take her away ... they would have uncovered her.
          4. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 12 October 2020 10: 58
            0
            The article is nothing more than an angry "run over" on Russia by vexed Americans.
            1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 11: 54
              -1
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              vexed Americans.

              and why are they annoyed? The fact that Russia, among others, was drawn into a mess on the BV? Everything fits into the staff paradigm - the more interested parties, the more chances this cesspool will seethe for a long time.
      2. 1976AG
        1976AG 12 October 2020 09: 41
        -2
        It’s not that difficult to get the US out. It is enough with electronic warfare systems to complicate the operation of the contingent to the limit. When we need it, we ram armored vehicles, causing concussion of the remains of the brain of the world hegemon.
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 10: 16
          +5
          Quote: 1976AG
          Getting the US out is not that difficult.

          of course. You just need the US to want to leave on its own. Like from Vietnam.
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 12 October 2020 10: 19
            0
            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Quote: 1976AG
            Getting the US out is not that difficult.

            of course. You just need the US to want to leave on its own. Like from Vietnam.

            In fact, they were forced to leave Vietnam, since the losses were already very high.
            1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 10: 32
              0
              what's the difference. You declare that
              Quote: 1976AG
              Getting the US out is not that difficult.


              Delov something - turn on the magic electronic warfare - and it's in the bag, yeah. Is this, like, such a trump card in the sleeve of Comrade Shoigu?
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 12 October 2020 10: 56
                +1
                A question for experts: only we have electronic warfare? And who has more carriers for electronic warfare in the Russian Federation or in the United States?
                1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                  Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 11: 00
                  +2
                  Quote: Zaurbek
                  Do we have electronic warfare only?

                  Well comrade 1976AG believes that only with us. Apparently, he knows something about electronic warfare that makes this thing a superweapon.
                  1. Zaurbek
                    Zaurbek 12 October 2020 11: 08
                    -4
                    The United States has enough Growlers to keep our entire contingent from functioning.
                    1. 1976AG
                      1976AG 12 October 2020 14: 54
                      +2
                      Quote: Zaurbek
                      The United States has enough Growlers to keep our entire contingent from functioning.

                      If they could, they would have done so long ago. Only it is inappropriate to say that they did not have such a desire)
                      1. Zaurbek
                        Zaurbek 12 October 2020 16: 10
                        -1
                        It is impossible in peacetime to jam a potential enemy. They can get knocked down.
                      2. 1976AG
                        1976AG 13 October 2020 14: 19
                        +1
                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        It is impossible in peacetime to jam a potential enemy. They can get knocked down.

                        Whom to shoot down?
                        Is it possible to ram the armored vehicles of a potential enemy?
                2. 1976AG
                  1976AG 12 October 2020 14: 53
                  -1
                  Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                  Quote: Zaurbek
                  Do we have electronic warfare only?

                  Well comrade 1976AG believes that only with us. Apparently, he knows something about electronic warfare that makes this thing a superweapon.

                  Apparently I know.
                  1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 15: 00
                    0
                    Quote: 1976AG
                    Apparently I know.

                    laughing
                    Oh yeah!
            2. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 12 October 2020 11: 08
              -5
              Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Delov something - turn on the magic electronic warfare - and it's in the bag, yeah.

              Enough for you ... There are a number of coordinate errors when destroying ISIS bandits. They themselves will run away, because they have no legal right to be on the territory of a sovereign state, and even with a weapon ... BUT !!! stop Read the deceased Bzdb ... Brzezinski.
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 11: 19
                0
                Quote: ROSS 42
                They themselves will run away, because they have no legal right to be on the territory of a sovereign state, and even with a weapon ...

                Who? Americans?
                Yes, they do not care about these snot about the "official invitation", "have no legal right" and other crap. They have no right to? And they do not consider Assad's regime legal - and then what? And the UN has generally declared the ophthalmologist a war criminal - well, now what? All these references to "legality" were necessary for Putin to save face, which in general would be appropriate if everyone played by the rulesand the UN was not a brothel with speckled blackjack and dull sh ...
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent 12 October 2020 10: 41
          -1
          Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          of course. You just need the US to want to leave on its own. Like from Vietnam.

          Yes, but only in this case it will not work out to pretend to be conditional "Li-Si-Ching"...
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 10: 53
            +2
            and this is not required. The format is different. This is not a confrontation between two antagonistic systems. If Comrade Putin leaves, his successor will come and through his next ass like Solovyov will intelligibly explain to fellow citizens why Syria hasn’t surrendered to us. That all these were expensive ambitions of the past leadership, etc., etc. - passed it already.
        3. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 12 October 2020 10: 56
          0
          And oil production in Syria can be greatly complicated ...
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 11: 02
            -1
            Quote: Zaurbek
            And oil production in Syria can be greatly complicated ...

            how? To impose sanctions on the States?
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 12 October 2020 11: 07
              0
              Firstly, the states do not mine there ..... secondly, transportation can be disrupted. And mining without transportation is nothing .... and the first step is to agree on transport through the "correct" route.
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 11: 09
                -1
                Quote: Zaurbek
                secondly, transportation can be disrupted.

                what, to sink the tankers?
                Quote: Zaurbek
                and the first step is to agree on transport through the "correct" route.

                which is it?
                1. Zaurbek
                  Zaurbek 12 October 2020 11: 10
                  0
                  There are no tankers ... it is necessary to get to tankers like that to Iraq and through Iraq ...... Which was before the war. Through Syria to the sea.
                  1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 11: 21
                    -1
                    Quote: Zaurbek
                    Through Syria to the sea.

                    and what is "wrong" then?
                    1. Zaurbek
                      Zaurbek 12 October 2020 11: 30
                      0
                      Through Iraq, to ​​the sea ...
              2. pin_code
                pin_code 13 October 2020 06: 25
                0
                but you can "stupidly" bomb and say that it's not us, but let's say Turkey, Israel or Basmachi. and an incomprehensible photo of naked priests show ...
                1. Zaurbek
                  Zaurbek 13 October 2020 08: 15
                  0
                  It is possible to complicate and increase the cost of the process of extraction and transportation .... and offer a safer option.
                  1. pin_code
                    pin_code 21 October 2020 07: 17
                    0
                    It is necessary to level the mining process (any), except for official Damascus, and there is no need to negotiate with anyone. got it, get it. and no matter who the enemy is, it won't get any easier for us. only our ellita is looking for all kinds of partners. but it was necessary to buy cheap technologies, or even not cheap and develop industry, and not the notorious digital (no) technologies. they will buy the goods from you, but they can draw numbers themselves
                    1. Zaurbek
                      Zaurbek 21 October 2020 08: 17
                      0
                      In the oil industry, both production and transport are cost components. You need to make it difficult for what the style is enough for.
                    2. pin_code
                      pin_code 6 November 2020 07: 02
                      0
                      enough strength, you need desire and the gut is not thin
  • hrych
    hrych 12 October 2020 10: 36
    +5
    Quote: Zaurbek
    offshore gas

    The Leviathan gas super deposit in Lebanon. Slightly enters Israel, slightly enters the Syrian shelf. We do not need this gas at all, the main thing is the impossibility of producing it and connecting it with Saudi and Qatari gas. And there are no pipes through Syria to the EU. But that's not the point. The main thing is the Jabal naphtha oil field, there are reserves, like half of all explored oil in the Russian Federation or the SA, or the USA. Any of the mining triumvirates that produce 40% of the world's production. And the main thing is not that we are producing this oil, although we will certainly, and most importantly, that they are NOT producing. In this sense, the war in Syria was the most important in the great oil and gas war, where Ukraine is only its pathetic front. The presence of Americans in Syria is partly beneficial to us, there they annoy the Kurds and Turks undercover. Russia still managed to build a system of checks and balances, where Turks, Israelis, Americans, Kurds, Iranians compensate for each other, and the Shelf, megacities and fertile lands are under our control, as a whole 70% of the territory. Bases from which the Bosphorus, Suez and the Persian Gulf are shot. Overall dominance in the eastern Mediterranean. The only thing that the Americans control is the half-dead wells of the Zafratya, but there are no Turks and no Iranians there. Which, too, will have to be knocked out, but they themselves will not leave. Therefore, no matter how funny, they are beneficial to us. And whatever one may say, during the destruction of the Caliphate, they made a significant contribution and helped primarily the SAA. Well, to us, having pinned down the group in Raqqa.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 12 October 2020 10: 56
      +1
      "Jabal nafti oil field" ///
      ----
      Bluff. This is just a guess. Nobody drilled there.
      There is a lot of gas and little oil on the Mediterranean shelf. Gas was found in many places where oil was supposed.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 12 October 2020 10: 59
        0
        Along the shores of the Mediterranean Sea, there are many countries with developed oil production and developed industry ... they would have already found and pumped them. They pump in the North Seas, but haven't made it to the Mediterranean Sea?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 12 October 2020 11: 03
          +2
          When they were drilling for Israel, they found gas in the places where geologists said there was oil in the voids. Israel - on the drum: oil and gas. Small things. But Lebanon was very anxiously expecting to receive oil. But it is not enough.
      2. hrych
        hrych 12 October 2020 11: 00
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Bluff

        A card game lover? Obviously a bad poker player wassat
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Nobody drilled there.

        You certainly didn’t drill, but in 2009 the American geological exploration company US Geological Survey worked on exploration of deposits on the shelf of Syria.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 12 October 2020 11: 10
          +1
          Worked does not mean drilling laughing
          They explored the shelf with instruments. Type of ultrasound. We looked for voids, differences in rock density. And it was assumed that there was oil in the voids.
          And Israel - drilled, brought platforms from Texas. Where the exploration geologists (the Americans) used to say "oil", there was gas. But there is a lot of gas. Clear? smile
          ---
          So it is in Eastern Siberia. Geologists have suggested that there is a lot of gas in the fields. And they began to pump for the Power of Siberia - it turned out to be several times less. Now wells from other places are urgently connected.
          1. hrych
            hrych 12 October 2020 11: 23
            0
            You did not understand. US Geological Survey is the United States Geological Survey and is a research agency from the United States government. Under its auspices, an intelligence company worked under a contract with Syria. This USGS has made a statement on the Syrian shelf. Therefore, Voyaka Uh - a great oil and gas specialist, argue with this American government service. Not with me. Announce your bluff to USGS wassat wassat
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 12 October 2020 11: 17
      -2
      Quote: hrych
      The main thing is the Jabal nafti oil field

      The main thing for Russia is not to rely on temporary "allies" and "partners" in solving important strategic tasks. It is time to learn how to manage either on our own, or to mobilize the forces of reliable like-minded people who, for some reason, Russia has a dime a dozen. Or ask Russian medal bearers and heroes? belay
      Enough for us to wishful thinking. Perhaps there are goals and reasons for the Russian presence in Syria. Only it (being) should not remind: "Let us be present here" ...
      1. hrych
        hrych 12 October 2020 12: 03
        0
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Only it (being) should not remind: "Let us be present here" ...

        Well, we politely asked Assad, they say, allow me ... when he owned 10% of the territory of Syria, and half of Damascus was occupied by the barmaley wassat Then they set up a squadron and blocked the path of the NATO invasion fleet, telling Obama, they say, let us take the Syrian shelf and if you please get out wassat Obama grew old and gray overnight, like Homa Brut, from such politeness wassat
      2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 12: 18
        -1
        Quote: ROSS 42
        The main thing for Russia is not to rely on temporary "allies" and "partners" in solving important strategic tasks.

        yes of course, yeah. Always and at all times there have been mutually beneficial tactical alliances.
        Quote: ROSS 42
        or mobilize the forces of reliable like-minded people, whom Russia, for some reason, is a dime a dozen.

        what, nafig, "pond"? Name at least one "reliable associate" from this pond.
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Enough for us to wishful thinking.

        so start with yourself - free yourself from fantasies about "like-minded people".
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Only it (being) should not remind: "Let us be present here" ...

        what should it look like? Occupation?
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  • Woodman
    Woodman 12 October 2020 09: 30
    -1
    Miller notes that, although the President of the Russian Federation has already announced several times about the withdrawal of the contingent from Syria, in practice nothing of the kind has yet been observed.
    How many times have Obama and Trump withdrawn troops from Afghanistan and Iraq?
    Miller claims that the Syrian conflict can end when the Kremlin wants it, but so far it is not necessary.
    Alas, this option is only possible with the complete withdrawal of the Kremlin from Syria, but this option does not suit Russia. Another option is to throw the states out of Syria, which we are not yet able to do. That is, the United States can also end the conflict in Syria if it completely withdraws from there. But Miller doesn't talk about this.
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 10: 41
      -1
      Quote: Lesovik
      Alas, this option is possible

      is not possible. Yankees are good teachers, and we now imitate them in this. Getting into someone else's conflict in a traditionally troubled region is not for the sake of stopping it, but on the contrary, to keep it warm. With the solution of their selfish tactical (geopolitical) tasks - all according to the manuals of sworn friends. We, too, have come to believe in the chimera of controlled chaos.
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 12 October 2020 10: 45
        +1
        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        not for the sake of stopping it, but on the contrary, to keep it heated. With the solution of their selfish tactical (geopolitical) tasks

        Getting into a conflict for the sake of stopping it, without having your own "selfish" interests - is a rare stupidity. Waste state resources and ruin the lives of their own citizens for what? "To give the land in Grenada to the peasants"?
        Only if they are our peasants.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 12 October 2020 11: 20
      -3
      Quote: Lesovik
      Another option is to throw the states out of Syria, which we are not yet able to do.

      What do you mean? belay Are we beyond our strength or those who have a small business abroad, relatives, children and cozy apartments?
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 12 October 2020 11: 29
        0
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Are we beyond our strength or those who have a small business abroad, relatives, children and cozy apartments?

        Could you tell me how many years it took and what efforts and sacrifices did it cost those who did not have "abroad a small business, relatives, children and cozy apartments" to kick the Yankees out of Vietnam? Or did those who had nothing "abroad" manage to kick the Yankees out of South Korea?
        When it comes to geopolitics, "small business, relatives, children and cozy apartments" abroad play a far from decisive role.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 12 October 2020 11: 38
          -1
          Quote: Lesovik
          Do not tell me how many years it took and what efforts and sacrifices it cost those who did not have "a small business abroad, relatives, children and cozy apartments"

          Tell me, tell me ... Do not forget about the relationship between the USSR and China at that time, and the distance of the USSR-Vietnam route.
          Quote: Lesovik
          When it comes to geopolitics, "small business, relatives, children and cozy apartments" abroad play a far from decisive role.

          You go and tell this to those I / O decision makers who boast of nonexistent advantage and Pyrrhic victories to the world. These people wanted to sneeze at all this "geopolitics".
          1. Woodman
            Woodman 12 October 2020 11: 45
            0
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Prompt, prompt ... Do not forget about the relationship between the USSR and China

            Kako the place you mentioned the presence of numerous Chinese "volunteers".
            and the range of the USSR - Vietnam route.
            Through friendly China.
            And with all these advantages, what about time and waste?
            Quote: ROSS 42
            You go and tell it to those

            What for? You do it much better, judging by the stars on the virtual shoulder straps.
            1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 16: 30
              -1
              Quote: Lesovik
              Kako the place you mentioned the presence of numerous Chinese "volunteers".

              there were no Chinese volunteers in Vietnam. Moreover - "numerous".
              1. Woodman
                Woodman 13 October 2020 11: 22
                0
                Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                there were no Chinese volunteers in Vietnam.

                If by "volunteers" you mean the same thing that happened in Korea, then you are certainly right, and so ...
                From 1965 to 1975, the PRC government sent a total of 320 thousand people to Vietnam to provide assistance in the field of air defense, as technical specialists, in the construction of railways and bridges (refraining from direct participation in hostilities against the United States). Of these, about a thousand died [

                Although, if we compare with respect to the population of China, then - yes, 300 thousand do not in any way draw on the concept of "numerous".
        2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 12: 22
          -1
          Quote: Lesovik
          Or did those who had nothing "abroad" manage to kick the Yankees out of South Korea?

          remind - who and when "kicked out" the Yankees from South Korea?
          1. Woodman
            Woodman 12 October 2020 12: 24
            0
            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            remind - who and when "kicked out" the Yankees from South Korea?

            This is the crux of the matter.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 12 October 2020 09: 31
    +3
    Putin got what he wanted

    Vmeshivatsya in the conflict without their own interes, do not try to implement them ???
    Where is this Chris Miller saw? Does this happen at all?
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 12 October 2020 09: 37
    +3
    It is precisely the consolidation in the eastern Mediterranean that is the main military-political gain of our country, plus access to the close borders of Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Israel, as the main players in the Middle East, I would not be surprised if soon we see something like this at our bases in Syria. OTRK "Iskander" or some other stronger product, I consider the secondary task of driving the maximum number of our servicemen through Syria, gaining combat experience and testing new models of military hardware
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 12 October 2020 09: 44
      +1
      The ultimate goal is the VKS and naval bases in the Mediterranean. And, as I understand it, there is no industry in Syria to provide it (with fuel and oils and food) to reduce dependence on the strait.
      1. CommanderDIVA
        CommanderDIVA 12 October 2020 09: 51
        +1
        Most likely, the option of supporting our group in Syria has long been calculated, if Turkey closes the straits, we will agree with Iran, they can’t wait until the embargo on the supply of 400 is lifted, at least through Gibraltar or Suez
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 12 October 2020 09: 55
          0
          Iran is a so-so ally .... no better and no worse than the Turks. It is necessary to organize such things locally. As soon as the embargo is lifted, we will hear more from Iran. And will we sell him the C400?
          1. Livonetc
            Livonetc 12 October 2020 10: 17
            -1
            Selling С400 to Iran, in the interests of Russia.
            Russia needs stable neighbors.
            And Iran's solvency is at a sufficient level.
            And Israel's opinion should have the most minimal weight in the issue of supplying defense systems to Iran.
            The era of absolute hegemony of the United States and its allies is becoming a thing of the past.
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 12 October 2020 10: 25
              0
              How long have we sold the C300 to Iran? And the interests of the Russian Federation in different groups of influence in power are different ideas. And the Russian Federation cannot afford to "give" such an expensive new weapon .... these are not Soviet stocks from warehouses. And Iran needs money.
            2. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 12 October 2020 10: 26
              +2
              Recently, about the same, many have spoken about Turkey ... it is, first of all, because of the "striped" and their "gang", we cannot sell the S-400 until they are allowed, but at the same time - "The era of absolute US hegemony and their allies is a thing of the past. "- somehow it does not fit ..
            3. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 11: 07
              +1
              Quote: Livonetc
              Selling С400 to Iran, in the interests of Russia.
              Russia needs stable neighbors.

              Yes, Iran is simply a standard of stability. And the sale of the S-400 is +100 to the "charisma" of the Persians.
              Quote: Livonetc
              And Iran's solvency is at a sufficient level.

              How do you know this?
          2. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 12 October 2020 11: 24
            -1
            Quote: Zaurbek
            Iran is a so-so ally .... no better and no worse than the Turks.

            Name the "ally" of Russia better than the Turks ... I am afraid that to call Turkey an ally will not turn my tongue. This is a forced compromise ...
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 12 October 2020 11: 29
              0
              So there is no need to promote Iran as an "RF ally" ..... for the Russian Federation, in principle, any independent neighbor (non-aligned) ... who counts money and estimates that he can fly in in case of war .... is valuable.
        2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 12 October 2020 10: 17
          0
          Quote: CommanderDIVA
          agree with Iran

          what exactly?
  • taiga2018
    taiga2018 12 October 2020 09: 37
    +9
    It must be admitted that no matter who the president of the United States is a Democrat or a Republican, the country's foreign policy will be 99% unchanged, but in our country, if another person becomes president, foreign policy may change by 99%, which is why Western journalists usually write "Putin got it." , not Russia, but Putin, who are absolutely sure that if not under the rule of the same Putin, everything can turn at least 90 degrees.
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 12 October 2020 12: 12
      +2
      That's right ..
      Even at the expense of Crimea, there is no 100% certainty about the future fate ..
      What can we say about some kind of Syria ..
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 12 October 2020 09: 45
    0
    Now everyone will rush to discuss what the US press is writing about in the VO version.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 12 October 2020 09: 46
    0
    The transfer from the acute phase to the chronic one was not invented today or even yesterday.
    The bases were obtained for a very long period, and you can collect the money in a heap and dump it at any moment, but this moment has not come yet.
    It is still necessary to wait until the donors' money, which does not require a report, will flow to Syria from all over the world and without any account to restore the destroyed agriculture, industry, infrastructure, etc. In 5 years, no less than 10 billion greens flew there. You need to somehow get your expenses back. (True, the State invested, and private traders will return to themselves, but we will not find fault with such trifles?) So, "We are waiting, sir ..." (c).
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 12 October 2020 09: 57
      0
      Here you need to count everything ... but there is a plus - all costs can be converted into rubles ...
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 12 October 2020 10: 05
        -1
        Quote: Zaurbek
        Here you need to count everything ... but there is a plus - all costs can be converted into rubles ...

        I will not deny the obvious. hi
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 October 2020 09: 53
    0
    Putin got what he wanted
    Not quite yet. To put an end to this conflict and get the desired result, it is good to squeeze the Americans and Turks out of Syria. And this is not yet feasible, because for this, at this stage, it will be necessary to enter into an armed conflict with them, which is not possible.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 12 October 2020 10: 01
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      To put an end to this conflict and get the desired result, it is good to squeeze the Americans and Turks out of Syria.


      It would not be bad to not let them in at all.

      But this, military-political round, at one time, Russian diplomacy miserably failed ...
      And therefore, at the moment - we have what we have ...
  • AVA77
    AVA77 12 October 2020 09: 53
    0
    For me personally, Putin is the president. Apparently for the West and Svidomo, he is a sacred personality, well, how (I will not mention it in Sue) winked Putin is, Putin is, blah, blah, blah. balabolas.
  • syndicalist
    syndicalist 12 October 2020 09: 58
    0
    Putin got what he wanted in Syria

    It remains to decide whether his desires coincide with the interests of Russia
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 12 October 2020 10: 11
      -2
      Quote: syndicalist
      whether his desires coincide with the interests of Russia

      Not tired?
    2. iouris
      iouris 12 October 2020 10: 56
      -3
      Putin is Russia. Note that it was not I who said that, but the "speaker" Volodin.
      In any case, Russians always act according to the proverb: "Stretch your legs over your clothes."
      1. syndicalist
        syndicalist 12 October 2020 14: 02
        -1
        Quote: iouris
        Putin is Russia.

        I also have this fear. He is really trying to create a system in which Russia will collapse along with his death.
  • iouris
    iouris 12 October 2020 10: 53
    -3
    And Trump "just" got oil.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 12 October 2020 11: 19
    +1
    According to the author in the US press, ending the war in Syria was not Putin's goal. Miller claims that the Syrian conflict can end when the Kremlin wants it, but so far it is not necessary.

    This is a purely American view of the war in Syria, they do not advertise their help to the barmaley. That they were engaged in the robbery of oil, they set up illegal bases where they train thugs, as they missed
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 12 October 2020 11: 22
    +2
    Putin (aka Russia) achieved the main thing - he did not allow the West to reformat Syria, eliminated the illegal terrorist Islamic quasi-state of ISIS on its territory, quantitatively and qualitatively reduced terrorist fighters of all stripes and nationalities, received military bases in the region and showed everyone - with Russia and its interests in the region will have to be considered, by everyone and for a long time!
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  • Radikal
    Radikal 12 October 2020 15: 25
    -1
    US press: Putin got what he wanted in Syria

    In the sense - "hemorrhoids"? lol
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 12 October 2020 22: 34
    0
    let's delete or ban this article !!!!!!!!!
    The author forgot the main goal, to kill the hotbed of terror, we have achieved it!