The second day of the truce: Baku is ready to continue the war, Yerevan calls for the recognition of Karabakh

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The second day of the truce: Baku is ready to continue the war, Yerevan calls for the recognition of Karabakh

The ceasefire agreement in the conflict zone in Nagorno-Karabakh is temporary and in the absence of progress, hostilities will continue. This was stated by Assistant to the President of Azerbaijan, Head of the Foreign Policy Department of the Presidential Administration Hikmet Hajiyev.

During a press conference on the results of the Moscow meeting on Nagorno-Karabakh, Hajiyev stressed that the ceasefire agreement is temporary and was signed to achieve humanitarian goals. If there is no progress in the negotiations on the withdrawal of Armenian troops from the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, hostilities will resume.



According to Hajiyev, the goal of Azerbaijan is not a truce, but the restoration of its territorial integrity. He noted that the first stage of the peace enforcement operation in Armenia ended successfully.

(...) Azerbaijan, as a responsible member of the international community, taking into account numerous appeals, accepted the offer to participate in the negotiations in Moscow

- he added.

In turn, President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev stated that he positively assesses the results of the talks between Baku and Yerevan in Moscow on the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh. According to him, after the ceasefire, the parties will begin substantive (independent of external factors - approx.) Negotiations.

Meanwhile, on Saturday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov held telephone talks with his Azerbaijani and Armenian counterparts Jeyhun Bayramov and Zohrab Mnatsakanyan on the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh. Both sides reaffirmed their commitment to the ceasefire agreements.

Despite this, the Armenian Foreign Ministry accused Azerbaijan of continuing hostilities on different fronts, in violation of its obligations. Yerevan regarded Baku's actions as a breakdown of the ceasefire agreement. The president of the unrecognized republic of Nagorno-Karabakh Arayik Harutyunyan stated the same. According to him, Azerbaijan staged "genocide of the Armenian people."

Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan appealed to the world community with a request to recognize the right of Karabakh to self-determination.

The world must recognize the right of Artsakh to self-determination. If governments and parliaments do not do this, peoples, individuals, organizations can do it. It should become a worldwide movement uniting such individuals, peoples and organizations

- he said, stressing that this should be the business of the people living in this territory.

Thus, on the second day of the truce, Baku is ready to continue the war, Yerevan asks to recognize Karabakh, although both Baku and Yerevan are in favor of negotiations. At the same time, the parties continue to accuse each other of violating the agreement. Azerbaijan's position is fully supported by Turkey and Pakistan, both countries are in favor of the complete "de-occupation" of the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh.

The world media mainly speaks only of the reached agreements on a ceasefire, and also "expresses confidence" that this will be "the first step towards peace."
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  1. +6
    11 October 2020 11: 54
    Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan appealed to the world community with a request to recognize the right of Karabakh to self-determination.

    The best option. Moreover, there is already a precedent - Kosovo. You can refer to it.
    1. +7
      11 October 2020 11: 57
      The question is who will go for it.
      1. +11
        11 October 2020 11: 59
        Quote: 1976AG
        The question is who will go for it.

        Nobody. Double standards, especially since in the UN resolutions the territory of Karabakh is Azerbaijani
        1. +9
          11 October 2020 12: 05
          Quote: Silvestr
          all the more so as in the UN resolutions the territory of Karabakh is Azerbaijani

          In these documents, Kosovo was also the territory of Serbia
          1. +2
            11 October 2020 17: 15
            The states needed a base in Kosovo. Here is Kosovo and the exception.
        2. +8
          11 October 2020 12: 09
          Quote: Silvestr
          Quote: 1976AG
          The question is who will go for it.

          Nobody. Double standards, especially since in the UN resolutions the territory of Karabakh is Azerbaijani

          Exactly. This means that the prospect of the expulsion of Armenians from Karabakh becomes quite real. Or their destruction.
          1. 0
            11 October 2020 12: 13
            Quote: 1976AG
            the prospect of the expulsion of Armenians from Karabakh.

            Azerbaijan has already announced the opening of humanitarian corridors for the withdrawal from the NKR of Armenians and the military unwilling to fight
            1. +3
              11 October 2020 12: 23
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: 1976AG
              the prospect of the expulsion of Armenians from Karabakh.

              Azerbaijan has already announced the opening of humanitarian corridors for the withdrawal from the NKR of Armenians and the military unwilling to fight

              Those who leave on their own are understandable with those. But will everyone leave? And if the majority don't want to leave, what will happen next?
              1. 0
                11 October 2020 12: 33
                Quote: 1976AG
                And if the majority don't want to leave, what will happen next?

                Massacre
                1. +1
                  11 October 2020 17: 16
                  Is it visible from Lipetsk so far?
              2. +2
                11 October 2020 13: 13
                Quote: 1976AG
                Quote: Silvestr
                Quote: 1976AG
                the prospect of the expulsion of Armenians from Karabakh.

                Azerbaijan has already announced the opening of humanitarian corridors for the withdrawal from the NKR of Armenians and the military unwilling to fight

                Those who leave on their own are understandable with those. But will everyone leave? And if the majority don't want to leave, what will happen next?

                They will cut out, business, they will launch barmaleev from Syria.
            2. +5
              11 October 2020 12: 34
              Quote: Silvestr
              Azerbaijan has already announced the opening of humanitarian corridors for Armenians to leave the NKR

              Armenians in NKR are 99%. How simple everything is with you, they gave a corridor and blow the hell out of your house, and everything connected with it, wherever your eyes look. Imagine if you were offered to move from a comfortable apartment to an open field, would you rush to do it, or would you still resist?
              1. -5
                11 October 2020 12: 59
                Quote: Piramidon
                if you were offered to move from a comfortable apartment to an open field, would you rush to do it, or would you still resist?

                When the troops were withdrawn from Germany, who resisted?
                1. +5
                  11 October 2020 13: 08
                  Do you at least understand what you wrote about?
                  1. -1
                    11 October 2020 14: 55
                    Quote: kenig1
                    Do you at least understand what you wrote about?

                    The troops were led out into an open field into tents. What is not clear? The Armenians will be led out in the same way.
                    1. +1
                      11 October 2020 18: 15
                      Troops were withdrawn from Germany by order. What kind of resistance are you thinking about? Comparing not comparable.
                2. +2
                  11 October 2020 13: 13
                  Quote: Pilat2009
                  When the troops were withdrawn from Germany, who resisted?

                  Do not confuse sour with soft. For you, the "humanitarian corridor" for the withdrawal of refugees and the intergovernmental agreement (albeit shameful) on the withdrawal of troops are the same thing? fool
              2. +2
                11 October 2020 13: 14
                Quote: Piramidon
                Imagine if you were offered to move from a comfortable apartment to an open field, would you rush to do it, or would you still resist?

                I would be partisans.
              3. +2
                11 October 2020 13: 15
                How did 99% of Armenians become there? Never wondered?
                1. +1
                  11 October 2020 14: 46
                  Quote: uran
                  How did 99% of Armenians become there? Never wondered?

                  What is an incomprehensible question? Do I have to answer you how it was there and who bred? request
                  The population of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic according to the 2005 census is 137 people, of them Armenians - 137 people (380%), Russians - 171 people (0,1%), Greeks - 22 people (0,02%), Ukrainians - 21 people (0,02%), Georgians - 12 people (0,01%), Azerbaijanis - 6 people ( 0,005%), representatives of other nationalities - 125 people (0,1%)

                  This is a fact that exists today. Once upon a time, the Indians were the main population of the American continent.
                  1. +1
                    11 October 2020 14: 49
                    You perfectly understood the question, but if you do not want to voice the answer, then I will remind you. Armenia carried out ethnic cleansing and expelled 700 thousand Azerbaijanis, which is why now 99% of Armenians are there.
              4. -3
                11 October 2020 14: 01
                30 years ago there were 1 million Azerbaijanis in Karabakh, and there was no corridor who survived.
              5. +2
                11 October 2020 14: 16
                Armenians in Karabakh are 99% because Azerbaijanis were expelled or killed during the first Karabakh war. In 7 regions around Karabakh, which are also occupied by the Armenians and where the main hostilities are taking place today, 100% of the population were Azerbaijanis. And even after the occupation by the Armenian army, Armenians do not live there.
                1. +3
                  11 October 2020 17: 20
                  I do not understand something...
                  Are the Armenians minus their colleagues for fair numbers? negative
                  Or does someone not know that there are under 1000 refugees in Azerbaijan both from Karabakh and from those 000 regions that were seized "just in case", "for the safety of Karabakh"?
              6. +1
                11 October 2020 14: 36
                Quote: Piramidon
                Imagine if you were offered to move from a comfortable apartment to an open field, would you rush to do it, or would you still resist?

                And if you are offered double compensation for everything you have acquired, then how?
                1. -1
                  11 October 2020 14: 53
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  And if you are offered double compensation for everything you have acquired, then how?

                  Has Aliyev already offered them and bought them apartments in Yerevan? belay Or decided to limit yourself to a simple kick in the ass?
                  1. +3
                    11 October 2020 14: 55
                    Quote: Piramidon
                    Has Aliyev already offered them and bought them apartments in Yerevan?

                    We could have discussed and decided all this long ago. I suppose they spend more money on the war.
              7. 0
                11 October 2020 21: 10
                Life, you know, is dearer than any apartment or even native land. So everyone will be gone
              8. +1
                13 October 2020 22: 26
                Quote: Piramidon
                Armenians in NKR are 99%.

                and where are the 1 million Azerbaijanis expelled from Karabakh?
            3. 0
              11 October 2020 14: 22
              According to Wikipedia, 145 thousand Armenians live in NGOs, this will be the largest humanitarian disaster in the Transcaucasus since the 90s, after the resettlement and flight of Russians from the Caucasus
              1. +1
                11 October 2020 15: 07
                There will be no disaster. Azerbaijani troops will not enter the cities inhabited by Armenians. And no one will allow us to do this. Az. the troops will liberate the heights and villages, the cities in which the Azerbaijanis lived. And the Armenians will receive the highest status of autonomy within Azerbaijan
                1. +1
                  11 October 2020 19: 53
                  Something is hard to believe, but what about the filtration of the Armenian population in NGOs to identify local Armenians who fought with your army? If your leadership does not decide to evict Armenians from NGOs, then you will get a guerrilla war relying on the local population and resources of Armenia for a long time, which will generate retaliatory punitive actions on your part and still result in bloodshed, it is better to relocate people and give them good compensation
          2. -3
            11 October 2020 12: 32
            Quote: 1976AG
            This means that the prospect of the expulsion of Armenians from Karabakh becomes quite real. Or their destruction.

            The Azerbaijanis are quite ready for this.
          3. +5
            11 October 2020 15: 03
            Having received in the face, the Armenians start whining and the old story about "genocide"
        3. +2
          11 October 2020 13: 12
          Quote: Silvestr
          Quote: 1976AG
          The question is who will go for it.

          Nobody. Double standards, especially since in the UN resolutions the territory of Karabakh is Azerbaijani

          The UN is now a corrupt girl lying under the United States, you know.
      2. -1
        11 October 2020 11: 59
        Quote: 1976AG
        The question is who will go for it.

        Well, they went for the autonomy of Kosovo.
        1. +1
          11 October 2020 12: 34
          Quote: Piramidon
          Well, they went for the autonomy of Kosovo.

          This is how the Fashington Regional Committee established
          1. -1
            11 October 2020 12: 39
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Quote: Piramidon
            Well, they went for the autonomy of Kosovo.

            This is how the Fashington Regional Committee established

            I'm not talking about who decided. This is the same precedent that SMART diplomats can refer to. The main thing is that the "Faberge" is made of iron.
            1. -3
              11 October 2020 12: 42
              Quote: Piramidon
              This is a precedent that SMART diplomats can refer to.

              Lavrov stupid?
              Who recognized Crimea?
              Who recognized Transnistria?
              1. -1
                11 October 2020 13: 08
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Lavrov stupid?
                Who recognized Crimea?
                Who recognized Transnistria?

                Lavrov, I think, is smart. Now LDNR and Karabakh still need to be recognized
                1. +1
                  11 October 2020 17: 24
                  Why do you need Karabakh? Well, why?
                  So that Russian guys defend other people's interests?
                  The further Russia is from Karabakh, the better.
                  LDNR is a completely different matter. But there we need not only the LDNR. We need much more there. bully
                  1. -3
                    11 October 2020 17: 53
                    Quote: Alex777
                    Why do you need Karabakh? Well, why?

                    Did I write somewhere that I need this Karabakh? I only want the war to end there, but why do you think that I personally need him. request
                    So that Russian guys defend other people's interests?

                    And when did I offer to send "Russian boys" there? Please don't hang your crazy fantasies and speculations on me negative
                    1. 0
                      11 October 2020 19: 16
                      And when did I offer to send "Russian boys" there?

                      When they offered to recognize him.
                      1. -3
                        11 October 2020 20: 41
                        Quote: Alex777
                        And when did I offer to send "Russian boys" there?

                        When they offered to recognize him.

                        And how is this confession connected with sending "Russian boys" there? Again, some speculation. This makes no sense!
        2. +4
          11 October 2020 12: 51
          I just watched Aliyev's speech on RBC. He thanked the Turks and Erdogan personally for their help not only in the war, but also for the fact that by his actions he did not allow the intervention of third countries, i.e. Russia.
          The autonomy of Karabakh will not go, only the complete expulsion of the Armenians and annexation to Azerbaijan.
      3. +9
        11 October 2020 12: 20
        Quote: 1976AG
        The question is who will go for it.

        First, let Armenia recognize Nagorno-Karabakh
        1. -7
          11 October 2020 13: 18
          First, let Armenia recognize Nagorno-Karabakh
          - Armenia will recognize when the time comes. It is still early ... If Armenia is the first to recognize the independence of Artsakh (NKR) at the moment, it will actually get involved in the conflict and pull some more states with it.
          1. +4
            11 October 2020 13: 43
            Quote: ashot1973
            First, let Armenia recognize Nagorno-Karabakh
            - Armenia will recognize when the time comes. It is still early ... If Armenia is the first to recognize the independence of Artsakh (NKR) at the moment, it will actually get involved in the conflict and pull some more states with it.

            Is that how it is?) Cool !!! Let others get involved in the conflict, we will wait for now! ? If we thought we were right, then we recognized Crimea, South Ossetia, and Abkhazia. And you are afraid. Justification can always be found.
          2. +2
            11 October 2020 15: 04
            There will be time when the Armenian army will reach Rostov
          3. +4
            11 October 2020 17: 28
            - Armenia will recognize when the time comes. It's still early ...

            That's when Armenia recognizes Abkhazia, Crimea and South Ossetia with Transnistria - then we'll talk. bully
            And then everyone is very smart here. As they need - then let's run, but as we need - so they are not even close. Multi-vector.
        2. +3
          11 October 2020 15: 13
          Quote: RUSS
          Quote: 1976AG
          The question is who will go for it.

          First, let Armenia recognize Nagorno-Karabakh

          Just wanted to write laughing good
          1. +2
            11 October 2020 17: 31
            Not only Karabakh, but all other republics and Crimea.
      4. 0
        11 October 2020 12: 31
        Quote: 1976AG
        The question is who will go for it.

        Azerbaijanis never
    2. +1
      11 October 2020 12: 00
      Quote: Piramidon
      Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan appealed to the world community with a request to recognize the right of Karabakh to self-determination.

      The best option. Moreover, there is already a precedent - Kosovo.


      The Kosovo project, the dismemberment of Serbia, was actively lobbied by the United States, using its entire arsenal of influence, including the military.

      I know who is capable of powerfully declaring and providing support for the same path for Karabakh, but will they do it?
      1. -2
        11 October 2020 12: 03
        Quote: Insurgent
        I know who is capable of powerfully declaring and providing support for the same path for Karabakh, but will they do it?

        Here the question is in the professionalism and "toothiness" of diplomats. To put pressure on why some are allowed and others are not.
        1. +3
          11 October 2020 12: 08
          Quote: Piramidon
          Here the question is in the professionalism and "toothiness" of diplomats. To put pressure on why some are allowed and others are not.

          Oh, those diplomats ...

          Apparently I will never be able to understand their diplomatic and political "subtleties", as a result of which, for example, "suddenly" there is an Idlib zone flooded with terrorists, actually torn away from the SAR and patronized by Turkey, from which it becomes possible to export mercenaries earlier to Libya, and now in Krabakh, 200 km from the borders of the Russian Federation ...

          D Y P L O M A T I Z...
          1. +3
            11 October 2020 12: 12
            Quote: Insurgent
            Oh, those diplomats ...

            Apparently I will never be able to understand their diplomatic and political "subtleties"

            This is probably why you are not a diplomat. laughing It needs a special mindset and character. You need to be able to lie without blushing and without looking away, be able to hug someone who disgusts you, hang spaghetti on your ears ... etc., etc.
            1. 0
              11 October 2020 12: 50
              Quote: Piramidon
              This is probably why you are not a diplomat. It needs a special mindset and character. You need to be able to lie without blushing and without looking away, be able to hug someone who disgusts you, hang spaghetti on your ears ... etc., etc.


              But, as a result of using all the excellent qualities you have listed, the result of the work, the rise of the status of the state, should be visible.
              In the work of Russian diplomats on the Idlib I have already mentioned (as an example), alas, I do not see this ...
      2. +2
        11 October 2020 12: 26
        Quote: Insurgent
        Quote: Piramidon
        Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan appealed to the world community with a request to recognize the right of Karabakh to self-determination.

        The best option. Moreover, there is already a precedent - Kosovo.


        The Kosovo project, the dismemberment of Serbia, was actively lobbied by the United States, using its entire arsenal of influence, including the military.

        I know who is capable of powerfully declaring and providing support for the same path for Karabakh, but will they do it?

        Well, who is this someone who can declare so powerfully? And if so, for whom? For the soros? But does this powerful someone need it? Sorosyatki who have already gone to NATO. Karabakh is Azerbaijani. Not Azerbaijani. Armenian is not Armenian. The Armenian Soros go to NATO. The entire friendly column of almost two million. The Russian Armenians said this to two grandmother. Where they go there. The lion's share of them have already come a long time ago and do not want to go anywhere. Because they have come. Of course, there is, of course, that like you without Russian citizenship for Nagorno-Karabakh, there are as many sparks from under your feet. get Russian for a start. Then in Russia, no, don't be born like me. Live like me for twenty years (I will not say anything about infancy in the RSFSR lol ).AND
        No one will leave Armenia. Armenia itself. Despite their attempts to capture the Russians, I did not understand.
        And you can understand your statements in different ways. Well, at least someone can be taken away from Russia. At least there are Azerbaijanis. Only one thing! We are here for a certain time, really not a party to the conflict. We do not have the right to do this. Yes, and a special desire also quarrels with neighbors. Russia is not that for you. But a multinational state. Including these two foreigners (Armenians and Azerbaijanis).lol
        1. -2
          11 October 2020 12: 35
          Quote: Observer2014
          Well, who is this someone who can say so powerfully?


          Quote: from a song
          I don’t know another such country...
          1. +3
            11 October 2020 12: 40
            Quote: Insurgent
            Quote: Observer2014
            Well, who is this someone who can say so powerfully?


            Quote: from a song
            I don’t know another such country...

            Well, from this and further start. Or rather, continue. And the current conflict there is really difficult. And jumping there with a saber, stupidity, stupidity, stupidity. I said everything. hi
    3. +15
      11 October 2020 12: 02
      Quote: Piramidon
      Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan appealed to the world community with a request to recognize the right of Karabakh to self-determination.

      The best option. Moreover, there is already a precedent - Kosovo. You can refer to it.

      Well done Nikola ... You admit everything, fight, and we will stand on the sidelines and take a look. Your land? So you yourself think that yours? Recognize it as a part of your country as we are Crimea! They will declare war on you for this - we will help. But then we will be RIGHT to help! And with such a policy, you only substitute allies and those guys who defend Karabakh. You can't be a little bit pregnant, especially in war. I understand that American money for pulling in Russia is delicious, but what, is it really that much?
      1. +6
        11 October 2020 12: 36
        Quote: oleg123219307
        Recognize it as a part of your country as we are Crimea! They will declare war on you for this - we will help. But then we will be RIGHT to help!

        Absolutely right
      2. 0
        11 October 2020 12: 47
        Quote: oleg123219307
        And with such a policy, you only substitute allies and those guys who defend Karabakh.

        And if, the goal is precisely this? Who is this Pashinyan?
        Quote: oleg123219307
        I understand that American money for pulling in Russia is tasty, but what, is it really that much?

        And not only in Russia. Turkey will also be involved. Bloody porridge in the Caucasus is the sweet age-old dream of the Anglo-Saxons. And mankurt does what he is imprisoned for. What are the claims to him ... request
        1. -1
          11 October 2020 13: 07
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          And if, the goal is precisely this? Who is this Pashinyan?

          If? In my opinion, the goal is obvious precisely in this ...
          1. 0
            11 October 2020 14: 54
            Quote: oleg123219307
            If? In my opinion, the goal is obvious precisely in this ...

            Then the question about sweet American money is meaningless. request
            1. -1
              11 October 2020 15: 58
              Quote: Vasyan1971
              Then the question about sweet American money is meaningless.

              Damn, well, he's not an American by birth for whom we are all enemies ... He, too, must have a conscience and at least a drop of pity for his own guys, whom he sends to the slaughter, deliberately not covering ...
              1. +1
                11 October 2020 18: 06
                Quote: oleg123219307
                He, too, must have a conscience and at least a drop of pity for his own guys.

                To say what has grown in the place where he used to have a conscience?
      3. 0
        11 October 2020 13: 03
        Quote: oleg123219307
        Recognize it as a part of your country as we are Crimea!

        How are we Donbass?
        1. -3
          11 October 2020 13: 09
          Quote: Pilat2009
          How are we Donbass?

          And Donbass asked them to recognize? Did Donbass hold a referendum on membership? There, for the second year, Russian passports have been issued, so until now, even 20% of the population has not applied for them ... There are their own games and their people, very difficult and in their minds ... And here it seems without such problems the situation.
          1. +1
            11 October 2020 17: 02
            Quote: oleg123219307
            There, for the second year, Russian passports have been issued, so until now, 20% of the population has not applied for them ...

            Exact data ? Where from?

            Would you like to tell us about the queues of one and a half years for obtaining a passport?


            Quote: CSKA
            I had to pay so that they would not be queued for submission of documents, but immediately apply for a DPR passport


            Quote: CSKA
            Personally, I had no choice. If I were in the queue, I would receive it only in January 2022.
            1. -2
              11 October 2020 17: 37
              Quote: Insurgent
              Exact data ? Where from?

              Hence, for example, https://yandex.ru/turbo/newsua.ru/s/blogs/31384-delaet-li-rossijskij-pasport-grazhdan-dnr-polnotsennymi-grazhdanami-rossijskoj-federatsii
              Quote: Insurgent

              And he does not want to talk about the queues of one and a half years for obtaining a passport

              And about the fact that the leadership of the DPR and LPR, instead of efforts to speed up certification and the transition of legislation to the Russian plane, do you want customs on the border with each other to build? The people there are very different. I have many acquaintances from Donbass, and they do not burn with love for Russia. To Ukraine too. Among those whom I know the basic principle is that we are adults ourselves know how to live.
    4. -5
      11 October 2020 12: 03
      Quote: Piramidon
      Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan appealed to the world community with a request to recognize the right of Karabakh to self-determination.

      The best option. Moreover, there is already a precedent - Kosovo. You can refer to it.

      Kosovo was squeezed away from Serbia's ally, now Karabakh is being squeezed from another ally of Armenia. An inappropriate analogy.
      1. -1
        11 October 2020 12: 07
        Quote: Civil
        Inappropriate analogy

        You yourself connected these two facts. Everything is the same
      2. +2
        11 October 2020 12: 22
        Quote: Civil
        Kosovo has been wrested from Serbia's ally, now Karabakh is being wrested from another ally of Armenia. Inappropriate analogy

        Karabakh is being squeezed out of Azerbaijan, if anything.
        1. +4
          11 October 2020 12: 37
          Quote: RUSS
          Karabakh is being squeezed out of Azerbaijan, if anything.

          If Che, how many years has he not been a part of Azerbaijan?
          1. -1
            11 October 2020 12: 48
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Quote: RUSS
            Karabakh is being squeezed out of Azerbaijan, if anything.

            If Che, how many years has he not been a part of Azerbaijan?

            It doesn't matter, you can dig deep into history, as well as about Crimea, by the way.
            1. +3
              11 October 2020 12: 52
              Quote: RUSS
              Irrelevant

              It has. Already a generation has grown up that has no idea about Azerbaijan. Where are you going to get him?
              dig far into history, as well as the Crimea, by the way, too.

              Dig up and at the same time ask the Crimeans who they are, the Turks, or the Russians.
            2. +2
              11 October 2020 17: 41
              Quote: RUSS
              you can dig far into history, like in Crimea by the way too.

              ARTICLE...
          2. -1
            11 October 2020 15: 09
            Where did the Armenians come from in Karabakh?
    5. +2
      11 October 2020 12: 20
      Quote: Piramidon
      Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan appealed to the world community with a request to recognize the right of Karabakh to self-determination.

      The best option. Moreover, there is already a precedent - Kosovo. You can refer to it.

      Pashinyan is a real Armenian))), Armenia does not recognize Nagorno-Karabakh, and asks the rest to recognize its independence))) How so?
      1. 0
        11 October 2020 13: 20
        Yes, everything is just such Makar Pashinyan provoking Russia. His task to push Russia and Turkey seems to be successful.
      2. 0
        11 October 2020 13: 35
        Armenia does not recognize Nagorno-Karabakh, and asks the rest to recognize its independence))) How so?
        - still have time ...! soldier
    6. -2
      11 October 2020 12: 30
      Quote: Piramidon
      t. Moreover, there is already a precedent - Kosovo. You can refer to it.

      What's the point? As they say in Fashington, so be it. Something this precindent does not work anywhere. Roidnestolvie is the clearest example. I am already silent about Crimea
    7. +5
      11 October 2020 12: 42
      Quote: Piramidon
      Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan appealed to the world community with a request

      And the Armenian request sounds like this: "... The world must recognize the right of Artsakh to self-determination ..." I read their sites - the wording everywhere is: the EU must ... Germany must ... France must ... Russia must in general, but this it will no longer help her - we have already understood our correct geopolitical choice ...
    8. +3
      11 October 2020 12: 53
      Today Armenians live there, and earlier there were still Azeri residents, but they were expelled.
      Before self-determination, it is necessary either to return the Azerbejans or to expel the Armenians.
      What would be fair
    9. 0
      11 October 2020 13: 11
      Quote: Piramidon
      Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan appealed to the world community with a request to recognize the right of Karabakh to self-determination.

      The best option. Moreover, there is already a precedent - Kosovo. You can refer to it.

      Armenia can immediately recognize NK and Crimea, although ... the Americans will not let him do this, but you must agree, there would be a strong move on his part.
    10. 0
      11 October 2020 14: 16
      The best option is to listen to all three parties and neighbors in the region. Russia's option to join Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan to Russia. Azerbaijan's option to return Karabakh to Azerbaijan from the autonomous Nagorno-Karabakh. Armenia's option to return all the Turks to their ancestral lands. Turkey's option to hold a referendum in Russia where 300 million Turks and rename Russia Turkestan. In my opinion, nonsense, there is such an organization as the UN where there are all accepted laws of the modern world and where it is said that the Armenian armed forces must leave the Azerbaijani territories.
    11. +1
      11 October 2020 14: 46
      Great ..... but you have to start with Armenia itself. Let them themselves recognize Nagorno-Karabakh ..... this time. And still there is a question with 7 regions of Azerbaijan.
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    13. Maz
      +1
      11 October 2020 16: 03

      Front page of the Turkish newspaper Karar

      The negotiating table was created by Russia. Turkey is not there (negotiations were launched by Russia without Turkey)
      «Strategic trip from Russia to Turkey ... Ankara has been left out of the ceasefire process established in Moscow, where the parties decided to start peace talks, which would be mediated by the United States, France and Russia. Azerbaijan, which stated that it would not sit at the negotiating table on Karabakh without Turkey, was forced to accept an agreement excluding the role of Ankara ", writes Karar.
    14. -1
      13 October 2020 01: 45
      Quote: Piramidon
      Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan appealed to the world community with a request to recognize the right of Karabakh to self-determination.

      The best option. Moreover, there is already a precedent - Kosovo. You can refer to it.

      You dispose of your something, dear. Look you, what kind, at someone else's expense. Why didn't Ichkeria recognize this at the time? Why did they fight, when Grozny was turned into Stalingrad? It would be possible, as you say, independence and do without sacrifices. Why so many people died there? Remember from John Chrysostom: "Do not act towards others as you would like them to act towards you." The same is the "Golden Rule of Morality".
      By the way, you can donate your apartment to the Armenians if you are so kind. Then recognize the independence of Pyatigorsk, for example, almost completely inhabited by Armenians, there is exactly the same population as in Nagorno-Karabakh. You want to give the Armenians a precedent with Karabakh) You can recognize the independence of the Armenians in Sochi, there they are already the majority. But they did not think that Nagorno-Karabakh is inside Azerbaijan and has no border with anyone, incl. with the same Armenia? Well, about Tatarstan. Therefore, Tatarstan did not become a union republic. And the presence of a border is a necessary condition for independence. Kosovo has a border with Albania and there is under 2 million people.
      What do you now order the state to give to each 100 thousandth national region (oblast) within each country? Moreover, the Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh were left with a gulkin's nose, 50 thousand, no more. Everything has been in Russia for a very long time .. Besides, according to international law, the Armenians have already determined themselves in Armenia.
      The war is not with Nagorno-Karabakh, and the matter is not in the "independence" of 50 thousand people, the war with the troops of Armenia, which carried out the annexation of Azerbaijani territory.
  2. +1
    11 October 2020 11: 57
    It was necessary to admit it earlier, 15-20 years ago, it is possible to get under sanctions, but now I doubt that it will be possible to push through such a serious political decision.
  3. +1
    11 October 2020 12: 03
    Azerbaijan's position is fully supported by Turkey
    The main external irritant of the conflict. But not only the imperial laid eyes on the Caucasus, he wants much more to the campaign.

    It seems that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was finally possessed by the belief in the imminent restoration of the Ottoman Empire, which at one time ruled almost the entire Middle East.

    This conclusion can be drawn from the statement of the Turkish leader during his speech to parliament members this week in Ankara. In his speech, Erdogan said Jerusalem is a "Turkish city," EADaily reported.
    More details: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/10/03/erdogan-obyavil-ierusalim-tureckim-gorodom
    1. +2
      11 October 2020 14: 47
      Azerbaijan in this case is right ..... legally.
  4. +4
    11 October 2020 12: 21
    The Armenians gained a little time, but only quite a bit, Aliyev this time tackled them tightly.
    1. -1
      11 October 2020 12: 39
      But it can also get tightly in hand
      1. +1
        11 October 2020 21: 43
        While the Armenians receive and not by hand, but by their insolent pumpkin
  5. +2
    11 October 2020 12: 24
    Armenia should recognize Crimea, and maybe Kosovo.
  6. +3
    11 October 2020 12: 57
    An ancient method that the healer mastered before anyone else is bloodletting. Alas, nothing else can be prescribed here. Both sides are clearly out for blood. At one time, the Communists satisfied the bloodlust of the Transcaucasian peoples, first giving them plenty of killing each other (what was going on there in the twenties - simply cannot be conveyed), and then interrupting most of those who did not want to sit still with a dagger in their sheath. Enough for a long time.
    But not forever ... In general, until both sides kill several tens of thousands of people, peace cannot be achieved there. Until the bloodthirsty ghouls are drunk or killed, there will be no truce. It should be understood that all these Karabakhs are by no means a reason, they are just reasons. When the "parties to the conflict" vaguely state their ideas, getting confused even in pretexts, this is clearly visible. There is not and cannot be right and guilty there, only a dark thirst, which one way or another will have to be quenched.
    And let the parties do it themselves for now. We just didn't have enough to add our own blood. We are not drawn to murder ...
  7. -3
    11 October 2020 12: 58
    Armenia attacked the city of Ganja with a Point U missile. The ninth victim has already been found under the ruins. Numerous injured. Such is the Armenian truce. Maybe we should already think about it, imagine our relatives and friends instead of these victims of the aggression of the inhabitants of Azerbaijan.
    1. +2
      11 October 2020 13: 18
      Quote: Buka001
      Armenia attacked the city of Ganja with a Point U missile. The ninth victim has already been found under the ruins. Numerous injured. Such is the Armenian truce. Maybe we should already think about it, imagine our relatives and friends instead of these victims of the aggression of the inhabitants of Azerbaijan.

      And what about you? laughing
      1. -4
        11 October 2020 14: 20
        Do you think this treachery is ridiculous?
        1. 0
          11 October 2020 22: 27
          Quote: Buka001
          Do you think this treachery is ridiculous?

          This is war, and if you took up arms, then be prepared that it will also fly at you.
          Quote: Buka001
          is this treachery ??

          Yes.
          Consequences of the shelling of Stepanakert.


          https://korrespondent.net/world/4280907-posledstvyia-obstrela-stepanakerta-fotoreportazh
  8. +4
    11 October 2020 13: 02
    "the dumb told the deaf about what the blind saw ..." (c)
  9. +1
    11 October 2020 13: 02
    Quote: 1976AG
    Those who leave on their own are understandable with those. But will everyone leave? And if the majority don't want to leave, what will happen next?

    They will live on the territory of NK. After all, Armenians live in Azerbaijan, and no one cuts them there ... The civilians will definitely not want to leave, so as not to find themselves in the situation in which the Azerbaijanis from Karabakh and the regions occupied by the Armenians found themselves. Only building good-neighborly relations with returning Azerbaijanis will not be easy
    1. +3
      11 October 2020 13: 20
      Quote: Old26
      Quote: 1976AG
      Those who leave on their own are understandable with those. But will everyone leave? And if the majority don't want to leave, what will happen next?

      They will live on the territory of NK. After all, Armenians live in Azerbaijan, and no one cuts them there ... The civilians will definitely not want to leave, so as not to find themselves in the situation in which the Azerbaijanis from Karabakh and the regions occupied by the Armenians found themselves. Only building good-neighborly relations with returning Azerbaijanis will not be easy

      They will live, but not long, until the first St. Bartholomew's night. wink
  10. -1
    11 October 2020 13: 32
    Quote: Piramidon
    Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan appealed to the world community with a request to recognize the right of Karabakh to self-determination.

    The best option. Moreover, there is already a precedent - Kosovo. You can refer to it.
    Uh-huh, and 7 districts to boot? ... laughing
  11. -2
    11 October 2020 13: 35
    Quote: aszzz888
    Azerbaijan's position is fully supported by Turkey
    The main external irritant of the conflict. But not only the imperial laid eyes on the Caucasus, he wants much more to the campaign.

    It seems that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was finally possessed by the belief in the imminent restoration of the Ottoman Empire, which at one time ruled almost the entire Middle East.

    This conclusion can be drawn from the statement of the Turkish leader during his speech to parliament members this week in Ankara. In his speech, Erdogan said Jerusalem is a "Turkish city," EADaily reported.
    More details: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/10/03/erdogan-obyavil-ierusalim-tureckim-gorodom

    Elections are on the way - I want to remain president for another term. And among the Turkish people, some of whom are ethical Azerbaijanis, this topic enjoys great support and popularity. Islamism and the Neo Ottoman Empire is a movement to the West and South, but not to the East.
  12. 0
    11 October 2020 13: 39

    Air defense actions of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan. A drone was shot down.
    1. 0
      11 October 2020 14: 22
      Until at least, Allah Akbar, do not shout!
    2. 0
      11 October 2020 15: 26
      And what for the trick? What system?
  13. 0
    11 October 2020 13: 40
    Azerbaijan's position is fully supported by Turkey and Pakistan, both countries are in favor of the complete "de-occupation" of the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh.

    Here, Erdogan has already pulled up Pakistan. And Pakistan is the fiefdom of the Anglo-Saxons. And Erdogan, now in his inner circle, turned out to be a "former" MI-6 employee.
    You don't need to have a lot of "perspicacity" to decipher the combination - with a new fire in the South Caucasus. The Anglo-Saxons decided to use Erdogan's dreams in reality, to revive "New Osmania" in the Muslim world, especially around Russia.
    1. +2
      11 October 2020 15: 30
      Pakistan traditionally stands for any seething of absolutely every Muslim country against representatives of another confession. This is what he does in the Arab-Israeli and Israeli-Iranian conflicts, where the United States is entirely on the sling of the Jews. This is done solely for the money that Turkey, Iran or, as in the past, the Saudis can help him with. Anglo-Saxons here, if in business, then in the role of an outside observer.
  14. BAI
    +1
    11 October 2020 13: 43
    There will be no peace there. Azerbaijan squeezed out a piece of territory. Yerevan will never agree with this (unless compensation is paid). Therefore, the war will continue.
    1. 0
      11 October 2020 21: 44
      Yerevan won't go anywhere, they don't even ask him
  15. +1
    11 October 2020 14: 16
    Everyone remains in their own interests, Azerbaijan will not change its goal of de-occupation of its territory and does not recognize the non-profit organization, Armenia received a respite to regroup its forces and means, hostilities will resume soon
    1. 0
      11 October 2020 14: 50
      They will then resume .... you just need to understand that in beautiful videos, when a tank is hit .... three tankers are hit. Which then need to be taken somewhere, even if there is a spare tank.
      1. +1
        11 October 2020 19: 59
        The Armenian or Azerbaijani "north wind" will blow, at worst they will throw a cry over the diasporas, recruit volunteers, Uzbeks have recently worked at a construction site, hung with a covid in Russia, everyone wants to go to fight for Azerbaijan
        1. 0
          11 October 2020 22: 34
          Recruit is not equal to tanker or artilleryman
  16. 0
    11 October 2020 14: 51
    Madness! All YouTube is littered with videos of corpses on both sides. XXI century in the yard ...
  17. +2
    11 October 2020 15: 10
    Everyone around is to blame and owe the Armenians in the opinion of the Armenians ... most of all Russia owes them
  18. +1
    11 October 2020 15: 25
    Quote: askort154
    Azerbaijan's position is fully supported by Turkey and Pakistan, both countries are in favor of the complete "de-occupation" of the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh.

    Here, Erdogan has already pulled up Pakistan. And Pakistan is the fiefdom of the Anglo-Saxons. And Erdogan, now in his inner circle, turned out to be a "former" MI-6 employee.
    You don't need to have a lot of "perspicacity" to decipher the combination - with a new fire in the South Caucasus. The Anglo-Saxons decided to use Erdogan's dreams in reality, to revive "New Osmania" in the Muslim world, especially around Russia.
    He did not pull up anyone, Pakistan's position has been such for a long time, he has not established diplomatic relations with Armenia. And exactly at the state level he was the first to support independent Azerbaijan, although he recognized the independence of the third, after Turkey and Romania.
  19. +1
    11 October 2020 16: 05
    The Armenians got into the wrong sleigh.
    It's time to get out.
  20. +3
    11 October 2020 16: 21
    Quote: MKPU-115
    They will live, but not long, until the first St. Bartholomew's night.

    In Azerbaijan, Armenians have been "waiting" for the night of St. Bartholomew for more than a quarter of a century. And for some reason they will not wait. Why must there be a massacre? It will be very difficult to build good-neighborly relations with the returnees, but this does not mean that there will necessarily be a massacre.
  21. +1
    11 October 2020 18: 06
    Two armies met: Armenian-Armageddonian and Azeri-Apocalypse in the office of the doctor of the pathologist Karabakh Barabakhovich.
  22. -1
    11 October 2020 19: 01
    The illegal channel for the supply of weapons to Armenia, which was established by the diaspora from Moscow in close contact with Russian criminals, is operating at full capacity even after the conclusion of agreements on a humanitarian ceasefire.

    The volume of cargo is increasing, contrary to all laws, carried out by civil aviation, that is, in fact, by passenger aircraft, their range is expanding.
    24 flights from Moscow to Yerevan per day!

    As we have already reported earlier, Atlantis Air Lines operates criminal flights. But, apparently, it cannot cope, and therefore another Elite-Avia, which appeared like a devil from a snuffbox, is included in the criminal transportation.

    24 flights depart from Moscow to Yerevan per day - the cargo traffic is simply unprecedented. And in order to avoid overlaps with their dispatch, support teams from the media representatives of the Armenian diaspora are on duty at Moscow airports, in particular in Vnukovo. The main task of which is not to let the personnel and the police look closely at the documents and check what is being brought to the accommodation in the cargo compartments of civilian liners.

    https://haqqin.az/news/191365

    24 flights from Moscow ... If this is still true, and not a cover, as many believe, the transfer of weapons from 102 bases and the ordinary transport of volunteers and mercenaries, then ... COOL!

    It is unlikely that so many volunteers will scrape together to fly 24 airplanes a day. To fight is not blah blah and fighting on such resources. And if mercenaries are recruited, then only Russians are obtained, there is no one else because of the coronavirus and restrictions on travel. In the recruitment of intelligent specialists without the Ministry of Defense or the special services of the Russian Federation or their own people, they CANNOT be coped with.
  23. 0
    11 October 2020 19: 50
    For Russia, only three things are essential:
    1. Stop Turkish expansion in the Caucasus.
    2. Prevent the appearance of barmaley at their borders.
    3. To prevent man-made disasters (strikes on the Armenian NPP, etc.), the consequences of which will affect the Russian territories and citizens.
    All the rest is unimportant.
    1. -2
      11 October 2020 23: 20
      Quote: The Time Traveler
      For Russia, only three things are essential:

      Besides yourself, can you refer to an official document or statements?
      1. Turkish expansion into the Transcaucasus has already taken place. Armenia is cut off. Further it will go to Central Asia, pressure from the Turks in Syria will increase.
      2. This is no longer possible.
      3. It will affect citizens and territories, although not immediately. The process has started.
      Special thanks to Pashinyan and Aliyev. They conspired?
      1. 0
        11 October 2020 23: 48
        1. I am speaking here only on my own behalf, not on behalf of the Russian government.
        2. "To stop the Turkish expansion in the Caucasus" - today it means to prevent it from entering the territory of the Northern Caucasus, the so-called. to Russian territories.
        3. Who does not want to do - is looking for a reason, who wants - opportunities. (c) folk wisdom
        One of the ways is to create a no-fly zone for everyone except the Russian Aerospace Forces, and to destroy the heavy weapons of the belligerent parties striking civilians. An even simpler pretext is that foreign missiles hit Russian territory.
  24. 0
    11 October 2020 21: 38
    Azerbaijan staged a "genocide of the Armenian soldier." No normal state recognizes fake Artsakh
  25. 0
    12 October 2020 11: 44
    Quote: Alex777

    Or someone does not know that there are under 1000 refugees in Azerbaijan from both Karabakh and those 000 regions

    Firstly, it seemed to be about 700 thousand, and secondly, it was not only from Karabakh, but the total number. That is, from Armenia and 7 regions
  26. 0
    12 October 2020 12: 08
    Quote: ashot1973
    in fact, it will be involved in the conflict and will pull some more states.

    Recognition of no one does not oblige anyone to anything, if there are no agreements, then there will be no conflict with anyone. If you want to help, then this can be done without contracts
  27. 0
    12 October 2020 17: 48
    I understood correctly that Parshinian demands the recognition of the NKR, but is not going to recognize it himself? What is so? Uncle from overseas does not order?
  28. -1
    13 October 2020 02: 10
    Quote: MKPU-115
    Quote: Buka001
    Armenia attacked the city of Ganja with a Point U missile. The ninth victim has already been found under the ruins. Numerous injured. Such is the Armenian truce. Maybe we should already think about it, imagine our relatives and friends instead of these victims of the aggression of the inhabitants of Azerbaijan.

    And what about you? laughing

    Well, what's so funny? In general, what is human in you? Imagine yourself, your child (God forbid, of course) late at night in your new building and suddenly "Tochka-U" is Armenian. Well, what kind of people are you gathered here? Do you think someone is insured against this? Then remember what people have gone through in the Moscow metro (7 Muscovites were killed) in 1977, at a bus stop and in the "Eliseevsky shop" when they were blown up by Armenian nationalist terrorists.
    These Armenians, who sent "Tochka-U" to a residential complex in Ganja, at the same time Elbrus (SKAD) and also "Tochka-U" before that to the Mingechaur State Regional Power Plant and the dam, are no different from those who blew up the Moscow metro and other objects. ... Those were the teachers of these scumbags.
    By the way, the Armenians in Baku also blew up the metro 2 times in 93 and 94. at the height of the first Karabakh war, a large number of victims were.