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A video of the use of the Armenian Armed Forces OTRK 9K72 "Elbrus"

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A video of the use of the Armenian Armed Forces OTRK 9K72 "Elbrus"

A video of the use by the Armenian military of the 9K72 Elbrus operational-tactical missile system (OTRK), NATO designation SS-1C Scud-B (Scud - "Wind Gust", "Shkval"), created on the basis of the Soviet liquid-propellant single-stage missile 8K14 (R -17). A couple of videos of the rocket launch are posted on the YouTube channel.


Both videos on the channel were published on October 9, however, there is no explanation of when the Elbrus OTRK was used. The opinion is expressed in social networks that the launch of the rocket is associated with another armed conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, which broke out on September 27 this year in the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh. However, no official reports on the use of this complex by the Armenian Ministry of Defense have been received, the Azerbaijani military department also does not comment on this video in any way. Perhaps the video shows the exercises of the Armenian Armed Forces with live firing of the OTRK, conducted earlier in secrecy.

Note that according to available data for 2019, the Armed Forces of Armenia were armed with 8 launchers of 9K72 Elbrus OTRK. There is no information about the state of the complexes. In 2012, it was reported that the complexes available to Armenia underwent a number of modernizations and improvements, which ultimately led to an extension of the service life, an increase in the accuracy of destruction, as well as a significant reduction in the preparation and launch time of missiles.


The operational-tactical missile system 9K72 "Elbrus" with an 8K-14 (R-17) missile is designed to engage manpower, command posts, airfields and other critical enemy targets. OTRK was developed in 1958-1961 in SKB-385 (chief designer - V.P. Makeev) with the participation of a number of design bureaus and research institutes. It was adopted by the Soviet army in 1967. The declared range of destruction is 300 km.


Let us remind that the Armed Forces of Armenia have modern Iskander-E missile systems purchased from Russia.
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 10 October 2020 16: 50
    27
    Well, where did you end up? After all, there is a ton of explosives on board, it is problematic not to notice the fall of such a missile.
    1. Theodore
      Theodore 10 October 2020 16: 52
      -32 qualifying.
      Nowhere! Boasted ha-chi-ki ...
      1. Rusinoff
        Rusinoff 10 October 2020 16: 58
        -1
        Well, it started .. Armenia started option B ...! Azerbaijan went to negotiations because Russia got angry ..
        There are serious threats to Baku, etc. If you make the CSTO angry!
        1. iouris
          iouris 10 October 2020 19: 31
          -10 qualifying.
          Quote: Rusinoff
          Azerbaijan went to negotiations because Russia got angry ..

          How did she get "angry"? The hostilities began, and now don't get angry, and they don't put you in a penny. Well, will the United States and Shaw come there and there? Caucasian chalk circle.
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 11 October 2020 21: 04
            0
            Where will the US come? Fight Erdogan?
    2. demon
      demon 10 October 2020 16: 55
      -41 qualifying.
      Another masterpiece of "Soyuz Cartoon"?
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 10 October 2020 21: 39
        10
        Among the Jews, the Shabbat Torah instructs Jews to refrain from work. And you figure here comments for five cents per line .. Not in order ... To deprive Israelis of citizenship to send to Pakistan for correction!
    3. Alesi13
      Alesi13 10 October 2020 16: 55
      0
      Probably to Elbrus
    4. Garris199
      Garris199 10 October 2020 16: 57
      +8
      Well, they definitely hit the sky, and then how it goes.
      1. Graz
        Graz 10 October 2020 18: 05
        +7
        and what was there recently in the Dagestan mountains that blasted, was it Elbrus
    5. RUSS
      RUSS 10 October 2020 16: 58
      10
      Quote: Observer2014
      Well, where did you get it?

      In the Agul region of Dagestan, an unidentified rocket fell and exploded. According to the portal "Weekdays of the Caucasus", she fell about ten kilometers from the village of Chirag.

      According to local residents, the blast wave shook houses and triggered a car alarm. Several villagers went to the explosion site near the border with the Dakhadayevsky district and found a crater 15-20 meters in diameter, as well as, presumably, the fragments of a rocket.

      The published footage shows a crater about two meters deep, with grass burnt around the pit.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 10 October 2020 17: 11
        +6
        Quote: RUSS
        Quote: Observer2014
        Well, where did you get it?

        In the Agul region of Dagestan, an unidentified rocket fell and exploded. According to the portal "Weekdays of the Caucasus", she fell about ten kilometers from the village of Chirag.

        According to local residents, the blast wave shook houses and triggered a car alarm. Several villagers went to the explosion site near the border with the Dakhadayevsky district and found a crater 15-20 meters in diameter, as well as, presumably, the fragments of a rocket.

        The published footage shows a crater about two meters deep, with grass burnt around the pit.

        We saw it. Well, something seems to be not enough for Elbrus with a ton of warheads. repeat And for the Armenians it is too much, to shoot at Russia with the OTRK. If they want to connect the CSTO to the conflict in this way, it will be just a masterpiece. To smear the OTRK on the territory of the ally. This I will say is a strong move, however. I don’t remember such a masterpiece-strategic move right away. that our command of the Aerospace Forces is interestingly silent about this. After all, they noticed launches over the Mediterranean Sea in due time.
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 10 October 2020 17: 24
          16
          Quote: Observer2014
          And for Armenians it is too much, to shoot at Russia with OTRK. If in this way they want the CSTO to be involved in the conflict.

          With their "skill" they could shoot around Yerevan, so do not flatter yourself too much. Well, some of our "freedom-loving highlanders" will have something to think about, and how the situation can quickly change ...
        2. BDRM 667
          BDRM 667 10 October 2020 17: 31
          +2
          Quote: Observer2014
          for "Elbrus" with a ton of warheads seems to be not enough. feel And for Armenians it is too much, to shoot at Russia with OTRK.


          And for the S-300 air defense of Azerbaijan, the very thing.

          According to the information in LiveJournal Colonel Cassad (https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/6231265.html), the fragments of the missile that fell on the territory of Russia belong to the ammunition of the S-300 PMU2 complex, which are used by the air defense of Azerbaijan.
          This is in addition to the two Azerbaijani drones that fell on the territory of Georgia on October 7.
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 10 October 2020 17: 45
            +8
            Here I read you BDRM 667 и Victorm (Victor) I have nothing against your opinions. They are completely different. I am an ordinary Russian man in the street. But there is the very fact of a military missile explosion on the territory of the Russian Federation. And if she got into our village, God forbid. That is why I am writing here. Where are the statements of our Ministry of Defense!? Where is their clear statement? They went out and clearly said what kind of rocket it was. And where did it come from. That Sunday, for example. And just don’t need to tell me about not seen. ” From fragments of anti-aircraft missiles 10 km away in the mountains, car alarms do not usually go off
            hi
            1. Bakinec
              Bakinec 10 October 2020 18: 55
              -3
              Direct your claims to the Armenians. This is a shot from their side.
              1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                Kote Pan Kokhanka 10 October 2020 19: 08
                +8
                Quote: Bakinec
                Direct your claims to the Armenians. This is a shot from their side.

                Poke the muzzle into the poop, we will both! Do not flatter yourself. laughing
                1. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 10 October 2020 20: 43
                  +1
                  The experience of raising cats is obvious.
                  1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                    Kote Pan Kokhanka 11 October 2020 03: 23
                    +4
                    Sergey, good night!
                    If on the street, in death, two neighboring cats are fighting, you will watch how they open each other's throats or pshiknite so that they scatter. A normal person will do the second, an abnormal one - the first!
                    These are not cats, but people! War - what time can it be just and correct, until the death of at least one child!
                    In our case - a citizen of Russia !!!
                    1. Korsar4
                      Korsar4 11 October 2020 08: 25
                      +1
                      Well said. Very well.
                    2. Time traveller
                      Time traveller 11 October 2020 23: 23
                      +2
                      The analogy with cats does not work here. Here is an analogy with two monkeys armed with grenades. This is about the fact that the Armenians threatened to launch a missile strike at some Azerbaijani dam, after which it would wash away half of Azerbaijan (this will not affect the territory of Russia), and Azerbaijan, in response, at the Armenian nuclear power plant (and here Russia will get it). It was after this that the invitation to "consultations" in Moscow took place.
              2. Narak-zempo
                Narak-zempo 11 October 2020 09: 46
                -2
                No, we'll make it easier. Crimea is already ours, but there will be Yerevan - ours and Baku - ours.
        3. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 10 October 2020 17: 46
          +1
          And for the Armenians it is too much, to shoot at Russia with OTRK.


          In Dagestan, a missile fell from an S300 PMU 2. They obviously tried to fire at Armenian missiles, but the calculation is not the same ... laughing
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 10 October 2020 17: 48
            -2
            Quote: Keyser Soze
            And for the Armenians it is too much, to shoot at Russia with OTRK.


            In Dagestan, a missile fell from an S300 PMU 2. They obviously tried to fire at Armenian missiles, but the calculation is not the same ... laughing

            So where did the Armenian missiles fall? Did they land in Sofia on a friendly visit? laughing
            1. Keyser soze
              Keyser soze 10 October 2020 17: 58
              +7
              So where did the Armenian missiles fall? Did they land in Sofia on a friendly visit? laughing


              Nye ... laughing It will be a bit far away ... By the way, in this war, only the aisers got where they didn't need to - the day before yesterday they officially apologized to Iran, then they managed to shoot in Dagestan, two drones flopped into Georgia ... warriors from God ... theirs there ... Actually, our God , he is Jewish does not allow such artillery shooting - everything is high-precision. So maybe the Armenians killed the Barmaley ... although maybe they increased the KVO by 50 meters for monophysitism ... laughing
          2. zyablik.olga
            zyablik.olga 11 October 2020 03: 32
            +2
            Quote: Keyser Soze
            In Dagestan, a missile fell from an S300 PMU 2. They obviously tried to fire at Armenian missiles, but the calculation is not the same ...

            When the refutation of the 48N6 SAM family is disrupted, they self-destruct by detonating a warhead in the air.
            1. PSih2097
              PSih2097 11 October 2020 11: 13
              0
              Quote: zyablik.olga
              When the refutation of the 48N6 SAM family is disrupted, they self-destruct by detonating a warhead in the air.

              if the missiles are "Orthodox", but other confessions "have options" ...
        4. Charik
          Charik 10 October 2020 17: 49
          0
          Ukrainians threw mortars into the Rostov region and nothing
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 10 October 2020 17: 52
            12
            Quote: Charik
            Ukrainians threw mortars into the Rostov region and nothing

            There then "North Wind" blew very strongly. True, not as much as we would like. But it blew all the same.
        5. alexmach
          alexmach 11 October 2020 00: 40
          -2

          After all, it was over the Mediterranean Sea that the launches were noticed in due time. And who in Russia with a rocket was silent

          Well, that's why it is silent because the allies blasted.
          . If in this way they want the CSTO to connect to the conflict. That will be just a masterpiece. To smear the OTRK on the territory of the ally. This I will say is a strong move, however

          Yes, God be with you. I suppose they shot at Baku but missed a little. Just.
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 11 October 2020 11: 15
            +1
            Quote: alexmach
            I suppose they shot at Baku but missed a little. Just.

            "He went to Odessa, and went out to Kherson" ... laughing
      2. poquello
        poquello 10 October 2020 17: 13
        -2
        Quote: RUSS
        Quote: Observer2014
        Well, where did you get it?

        In the Agul region of Dagestan, an unidentified rocket fell and exploded. According to the portal "Weekdays of the Caucasus", she fell about ten kilometers from the village of Chirag.

        According to local residents, the blast wave shook houses and triggered a car alarm. Several villagers went to the explosion site near the border with the Dakhadayevsky district and found a crater 15-20 meters in diameter, as well as, presumably, the fragments of a rocket.

        The published footage shows a crater about two meters deep, with grass burnt around the pit.

        "There are rumors from home", and it seems like c300 identified? Dagestan, in the wreckage
    6. Nadrub
      Nadrub 10 October 2020 18: 55
      -1
      How where :)))) got to Dagestan! There a few days ago something fell and banged hard!
    7. dgonni
      dgonni 10 October 2020 19: 31
      -4
      Duc yesterday the Azerbaijanis showed the work of their air defense precisely on this type of missile. And today they showed the wreckage of the downed missile of this complex.
      The territory of Azerbaijan was fired upon. So, with such an approach, the Armenians do not have to wait for support at the world level.
    8. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 10 October 2020 21: 01
      -1
      Nowhere. The grass turns green. Obviously not autumn in Karabakh.
    9. alexmach
      alexmach 11 October 2020 00: 36
      -1
      Um .. and remember just now in a mountain village in Dagestan there was recently found some unaccounted for 17-meter funnel, strewn with debris with an inscription in either Latin or Cyrillic "product assembled"
    10. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 11 October 2020 01: 45
      -3
      Quote: Observer2014
      Well, where did you end up? After all, there is a ton of explosives on board, it is problematic not to notice the fall of such a missile.

      Well, of course, you know where, in Dagestan a funnel of 15 meters ...
    11. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 11 October 2020 08: 18
      -2
      Quote: Observer2014
      Well, where did you get it?

      So in Dagestan - recently there was news.
    12. Nazar
      Nazar 12 October 2020 06: 13
      0
      Stop! And that Armenia has already openly entered the conflict? The article is called: "... there was a video of the use of the Armenian Armed Forces OTRK 9K72" Elbrus "" - is it really the Armed Forces of Armenia and not N-Karabakh? When did this conflict, formally taking place inside Azerbaijan, turn into a war between the countries - eh? Or the body that wrote this article does not puzzle itself with such "subtleties"?
  2. ZEMCH
    ZEMCH 10 October 2020 17: 00
    +6
    If they hit, then I think the world would know it))) and I think the same application)))
    1. otstoy
      otstoy 10 October 2020 17: 52
      +1
      I think that anyone knows. Only not to ordinary Azerbaijanis, so as not to reduce their patriotic mood.
      PS I sympathize with ordinary Azerbaijanis. But their leadership broke the bottom long ago.
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    1. Prahlad
      Prahlad 10 October 2020 17: 16
      +1
      Even tough you beat them ... It's bad of course that the truce did not work, although this was to be expected. Well, it is not profitable for the Azerbaijani, otherwise all the sacrifices were in vain.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 11 October 2020 00: 44
        -1
        Well, it is not profitable for the Azerbaijani, otherwise all the sacrifices were in vain.

        why is it in vain. If they force Armenia to make concessions to them, then they will not be in vain.
    2. Graz
      Graz 10 October 2020 18: 08
      +2
      Russia must completely destroy all Turkish influence in the Caucasus, and if for this it must deal with you, then it must do it, the Turks are inherently savages and no better than cannibals
      1. Train
        Train 10 October 2020 21: 32
        -2
        To destroy someone's influence, the opponent must have an even greater influence. The influence of those requested now is something near zero ..
  4. Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 17: 14
    -1
    Quote: Observer2014
    Well, where did you end up? After all, there is a ton of explosives on board, it is problematic not to notice the fall of such a missile.
    High-explosive warhead 700kg.

    The targets were Baku and Mingechevir. Those that were shot down on Mingechevir and Baku, of the remaining, one fell in the Khizi region, the other fell into Dagestan.
    1. Jager
      Jager 10 October 2020 18: 32
      +1
      In a strange way, she fell where is Baku and where is Dagestan.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 11 October 2020 11: 19
        0
        Quote: Jager
        In a strange way, she fell where is Baku and where is Dagestan.

        "two bast shoes left and right on the map is not a problem", the main thing is that it flew ...
        Soon dawn, there is no way out, Turn the key and fly.
        (c) Spleen
  5. yfast
    yfast 10 October 2020 17: 39
    +5
    Quote: VictorM
    High-explosive warhead 700kg.
    The targets were Baku and Mingechevir. Those that were shot down on Mingechevir and Baku, of the remaining, one fell in the Khizi region, the other fell into Dagestan.

    Is your name Aziz by chance? You support one side very strongly. Turkish.
  6. otstoy
    otstoy 10 October 2020 17: 55
    +9
    To be honest, I'm proud of the USSR since Khrushchev. For a long time, both the first and the second have disappeared, and their missiles remain the main trump card in modern warfare. Let it be regional.
  7. Bakinec
    Bakinec 10 October 2020 18: 33
    +5
    The author of the article mistakenly believes that these could be exercises - Armenia is not so rich as to use Elbrus in exercises. And the area of ​​the territory does not allow. There was a shot in the direction of Mingachevir to blow up the dam. Fortunately, one missile was shot down with the aid of 300, and the other flew into Dagestan and towards the Absheron peninsula, and God knows where else.
    And it is also interesting that when the representative of Az-Na's defense mines said that our missiles could reach the AES, the Armenians staged a real show. ... Like help a new genocide is coming. but they themselves are in fact ready to destroy the dam, when it explodes, it will flood the entire central part of Azerbaijan and up to 1.5 million people may die.
  8. Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 18: 55
    -3
    Quote: otstoy
    To be honest, I'm proud of the USSR since Khrushchev. For a long time, both the first and the second have disappeared, and their missiles remain the main trump card in modern warfare. Let it be regional.

    Uh-huh, or get lost, or ... fall on Russia hi And if not for the mountains, but the Dagestan aul would have flown, before which there was nothing at all fool There aren't people living there, not citizens of Russia? ...
    1. otstoy
      otstoy 10 October 2020 19: 23
      +5
      So far, the S-300 of the Azerbaijani air defense has arrived in the Dagestan aul. The evidence is in the markings on the rocket. This is not a censure of the Azerbaijani people respected by me, but in order to besiege you with your bot sketches.
    2. ccsr
      ccsr 11 October 2020 12: 11
      +1
      Quote: VictorM
      Uh-huh, or they get lost, or ... fall on Russia And if it were not for the mountains, but the Dagestan aul would have flown, to which there was nothing at all There that no people live, not citizens of Russia? ...

      All your groans are bullshit, because I witnessed how a Soviet plane without a pilot fell in 1989 in Belgium, killed a man, and no third world war began, although a NATO country was attacked.
      Belgium and the Netherlands sent the USSR notes of protest in connection with the flight and the catastrophe of the fighter [1], but thanks to the warming of relations between the two military blocs (the Warsaw Pact and NATO), the situation was resolved favorably. Nikolai Skuridin expressed his condolences to the family of the deceased. The USSR paid Belgium compensation for the destruction in the amount of $ 685 [000].
      Soviet specialists were admitted to the crash site. The wreckage of the fighter was taken to the Soviet Union. The cause of the engine failure was not established, although the investigation revealed that it had been repaired five times over the past year [9].

      So sometimes something falls from the sky and kills someone - let our proud mountaineers remember this when they once again start trying to talk about their customs.
  9. Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 18: 57
    -2
    Quote: Bakinec
    The author of the article mistakenly believes that these could be exercises - Armenia is not so rich as to use Elbrus in exercises. And the area of ​​the territory does not allow. There was a shot in the direction of Mingachevir to blow up the dam. Fortunately, one missile was shot down with the aid of 300, and the other flew into Dagestan and towards the Absheron peninsula, and God knows where else.
    And it is also interesting that when the representative of Az-Na's defense mines said that our missiles could reach the AES, the Armenians staged a real show. ... Like help a new genocide is coming. but they themselves are in fact ready to destroy the dam, when it explodes, it will flood the entire central part of Azerbaijan and up to 1.5 million people may die.

    They will not sink anyone, they were also worried, but I remembered the news about drought, lack of water in many villages and low water level in the Kura River and ... good
  10. Alexey Sommer
    Alexey Sommer 10 October 2020 19: 02
    -1
    Dikaris ..
    One word.
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  12. Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 19: 58
    -5
    Quote: otstoy
    So far, the S-300 of the Azerbaijani air defense has arrived in the Dagestan aul. The evidence is in the markings on the rocket. This is not a censure of the Azerbaijani people respected by me, but in order to besiege you with your bot sketches.

    Uh-huh, is it according to the version of the same resource "trustworthy" in narrow circles of not wide-eyed Neanderthals, from which, by the way, the Armenians also launched this duck about Syrian militants? laughing
    After 4000 militants in Transcaucasia mysteriously evaporated, now the air defense of Azerbaijan is shooting at Russia with some kind of "half-fire" missiles from a third world country, which still do not self-destruct in the air, but explode after falling to the ground, from which people have walls of houses shaking walk ...

    Did it never occur to you that the resource that so vehemently asserted about non-existent militants to the Armenian tune, and will now play fables? ... A girl once, this resource once gave its honor to the Armenians, there is nothing more to give.

    Or maybe you have a statement from the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation? If so, I will apologize. If not, please apologize and not snap your beak again.
    1. AndreyS
      AndreyS 10 October 2020 20: 49
      +4
      Quote: VictorM
      Did it ever occur to you that the resource that so vehemently asserted about non-existent militants to the accompaniment of the Armenian tune would still be playing tales? ..

      "...Sky News Arabia - Urgent: "Transfer of Mercenaries from Syria to Azerbaijan Confirmed" - US Department of Defense
      NewsComments: 0Vigen AvetisyanOctober 1, 2020
      Sky News Arabia posted a statement from a US Department of Defense spokesman on its Twitter page.
      The statement reads in particular:
      "Reports of dozens of flights between Turkey and Azerbaijan to transport hundreds of Syrian mercenaries are confirmed and correct."
      .. "
      https://vstrokax.net/novosti/sky-news-arabia-srochno/
      There is even a photo of this message on this resource))) Somehow, Sky News Arabia cannot be accused of love for the Armenians.
      1. Avior
        Avior 10 October 2020 21: 42
        +1
        However, this Twitter message turned out to be fake.
        The Pentagon has not confirmed this
    2. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 10 October 2020 21: 27
      +2
      Or maybe you have a statement from the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation? If so, I will apologize.


      Victor-Azis ....
      Yes, you Naryshkin face about the table about the barmaley and that, excused? The Turkish word that characterizes you is "gyonsurat" .... For Russians, I explain - a brazen and deceitful face ... laughing
    3. PSih2097
      PSih2097 11 October 2020 11: 32
      0
      Quote: VictorM
      A girl is once

      at the current level of plastic surgery, at least once a week, just pay ... laughing
  13. Megatron
    Megatron 10 October 2020 22: 09
    -6
    Armenians wanted to hit Baku with a rocket
    They sawed down an old barrel, filled it with gunpowder and iron to the eyeballs
    Gathered around, set fire to the fuse, everything will go bang
    A lot of people have been killed, some of them lie torn to pieces without arms, legs
    One creeps up to the other, they barely breathe: ARA - well, it banged, let's die!
    Okay, figs with us, and just imagine what's going on in Baku !! ??
    1. tolancop
      tolancop 10 October 2020 23: 32
      0
      Megatron, A joke about 100 years old (no exaggeration !!!!), only other nationalities .... Is there something fresher?
      1. Megatron
        Megatron 11 October 2020 00: 27
        -3
        The old one is not old, but as the expired missiles launch, it will turn out not today or tomorrow.
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 11 October 2020 11: 35
      0
      Quote: Megatron
      Armenians wanted to hit Baku with a rocket
      They sawed down an old barrel, filled it with gunpowder and iron to the eyeballs
      Gathered around, set fire to the fuse, everything will go bang
      A lot of people have been killed, some of them lie torn to pieces without arms, legs
      One creeps up to the other, they barely breathe: ARA - well, it banged, let's die!
      Okay, figs with us, and just imagine what's going on in Baku !! ??

      reminded of a cartoon about an ax ... a prophetic cartoon. laughing
  14. tolancop
    tolancop 10 October 2020 22: 09
    +1
    Doubtful information. The main question is: what did they shoot with? Old? If memory serves, then the last rocket was launched by the plant back in 1986 and the maximum shelf life (with extension) is 24 years. Incl. all the dates came 10 years ago. And to shoot old can be more expensive.
  15. Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 22: 49
    0
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    Or maybe you have a statement from the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation? If so, I will apologize.


    Victor-Azis ....
    Yes, you Naryshkin face about the table about the barmaley and that, excused? The Turkish word that characterizes you is "gyonsurat" .... For Russians, I explain - a brazen and deceitful face ... laughing
    I don’t speak Turkish perfectly like you, the Turks loved your people for several centuries in a row, but they didn’t have such a number with mine, so we are friends now.
    You are confusing Azerbaijanis and Turks, there is a difference between us, for example, in languages, as between Russians and corrupt brothers who rushed to NATO. Let me remind you that Turkey is your MILITARY ALLY within the framework of your NATO, while we have only military-technical cooperation and partnership with Turkey, more is impossible. If you didn't know, I will enlighten - Azerbaijan is a member of the Non-Aligned Movement, by the way, the summit of the participating countries was held in Baku last October, 2019.
    By the way, can you tell me why Bulgaria chose to lick the American ass in a military bloc directed against Russia instead of participating in the same Non-Aligned Movement? Like Armenians, memory is short, but gratitude is stingy?

    You so often mention the Syrian militants, and do not remind which NATO country in the past distinguished itself by supplying weapons to militants in Syria? I can tell you, in this NATO country, for example, there is a VMZ-Sopot plant (http://vmz.bg/) whose "products" were supplied to jihadists from Al-Nusra, large stocks were found in a warehouse in eastern Aleppo in Syria.

    About Naryshkin. Official source: http://svr.gov.ru/smi/2020/10/o-situatsii-vokrug-nagornogo-karabakha.htm
    Quote:
    According to the information available in the SVR, to the conflict zone actively pull up mercenaries from international terrorist organizations fighting in the Middle East, in particular, "Jabhat al-Nusra", "Firkat Hamza", "Sultan Murad", as well as extremist Kurdish groups... Moreover, we are talking about hundreds and even thousands of radicals hoping to make money on the new Karabakh war.

    First, notice what is highlighted. Azerbaijan long before the outbreak of hostilities and REPEATEDLY warned that Armenia was transferring militants of the Kurdish Labor Party (PKK). Before the start of the fighting for the liberation of Jabrayil and Hadrut from the occupiers, there were a little less than 800 bodies and fragments of bodies of persons who fought on the opposite side on the Azerbaijani side, among them 4 were identified as PKK militants, photos of the bodies of two were posted here. Where are the thousands of Syrian militants ?!
    Secondly, Naryshkin is the head of Intelligence, not the Pope. If you didn’t know, then intelligence is also engaged in disinformation, if in the interests of Russia it claims that the Martians are fighting for Azerbaijan, he will say that too, this is his job. But NOWHERE Naryshkin asserted that Azerbaijan or Turkey HAVE BEARED the militants from Syria, or they are in Azerbaijan, and even more so they take part in the battles on a par with the regular army of Azerbaijan.
    So far, this is a chatter and a fake of Armenians, and they are thrown it from the Stars and Stripes embassy, ​​plus this fake is spread by mongrels serving the Armenians like Pegov, today he has Turkish special forces like in the "9th company" and is all in black laughing he stormed Hadrut, and of any NATO allies, or rather vassals, US bedding, from Macron to a certain Keyser Soze.

    Well, what a brazen and deceitful NATO face, a corrupt brother, an American mat, do you have any questions?
  16. Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 23: 21
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    Quote: Observer2014
    Well, where did you end up? After all, there is a ton of explosives on board, it is problematic not to notice the fall of such a missile.




    While the OTRK Tochka-U missile was found in the field near the village of Akhmadalylar in the Fizuli region, it is right next to the combat area. Old stuff, plus the qualifications of the calculations and a mess in the army in general. The same story as with the shells of the MLRS Smerch, which fortunately often do not explode, otherwise, according to the footage of some houses where these missiles hit, the number of civilian casualties would have already been counted not in tens, but in hundreds.
  17. genisis
    genisis 11 October 2020 00: 10
    +1
    Quote: Observer2014
    Well, where did you end up? After all, there is a ton of explosives on board, it is problematic not to notice the fall of such a missile.

    They hit where they shot. For training purposes at the training ground.
  18. Victorm
    Victorm 11 October 2020 00: 36
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    Quote: genisis
    Quote: Observer2014
    Well, where did you end up? After all, there is a ton of explosives on board, it is problematic not to notice the fall of such a missile.

    They hit where they shot. For training purposes at the training ground.

    In the conditions and taking into account the geography of Armenia "at the training target at the training ground" it will not work hi Belarus is larger than Armenia, in terms of population and area, it is almost one to one with Azerbaijan, but the landscape is different and more favorable, so it took a lot of work for it to conduct tests and exercises of the MLRS Polonaise, and this despite the fact that the professionalism of Belarusians is an order of magnitude higher than the Armenian grief of artillerymen- missilemen.
  19. Time traveller
    Time traveller 11 October 2020 23: 31
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    Isn't this pepelats the explosion in Ganja?
    It is time for Russia to think about creating a missile-free zone around itself. At the same time, all nuclear power plants in the former "fraternal republics" should be kept out of harm's way.
    They want to fight among themselves - only with a rifleman, and even better with cold weapons.
    1. One Uncle
      One Uncle 12 October 2020 12: 39
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      Quote: The Time Traveler
      Isn't this pepelats the explosion in Ganja?

      this pepelats could not get across Ganja. The video shows the day, Ganja was hit in the dark. And the video is quite old. Only if we assume that the rocket made several turns around the earth before falling wassat