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Apostrophe: US ships and aircraft guarantee the security of Ukraine from Russia

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Apostrophe: US ships and aircraft guarantee the security of Ukraine from Russia

The presence of warships and aircraft of the United States and Great Britain, as well as other NATO countries in the Black Sea region, is a guarantee of Ukraine's security, especially against the backdrop of confrontation with Russia. Writes about this Ukrainian edition "Apostrophe".


Apostrophe military expert Oleg Zhdanov said that the presence of NATO ships in or near the territorial waters of Ukraine gives guarantees of Ukraine's security. According to him, even one ship, if it belongs to one of the "developed" countries, by which the USA and Great Britain are understood, can guarantee that Russia will not attack Ukraine.

In addition, the sky of Ukraine from Russian aviation protect NATO aircraft, especially if they are American strategic bombers.

(...) ships of such developed countries as Great Britain and the United States can guarantee this (safety - approx.). Two B-52 strategic bombers can guarantee that our skies will be closed to Russian aviation

- said Zhdanov.

Zhdanov also explained that since Ukraine has a military doctrine of a defensive nature, it does not need an aircraft carrier capable of simultaneously controlling sea and sky.

We hardly need an aircraft carrier, because today we have a military doctrine of a defensive nature. (...) Therefore, it is not advisable for us to have an aircraft carrier. Planes are on land and ships are at sea. This will be enough to ensure, in particular, their interaction

- he explained.

Answering the question about the need to patrol the airspace on a permanent basis by NATO aircraft, as is done in the Baltic States, Zhdanov said that this practice is already being implemented. In particular, American Hawk drones make regular flights over the territory of Ukraine.

In fact, they are already patrolling. Not as often as we would like, but reconnaissance aircraft and unmanned reconnaissance aircraft today regularly patrol our space, especially the border with the Russian Federation

- he added.
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  1. iouris
    iouris 10 October 2020 15: 46
    13
    Exactly. Although Ukraine is Russia. And everyone knows about it.
    1. olegfbi
      olegfbi 10 October 2020 16: 18
      38
      even one ship, if it belongs to one of the "developed" countries, by which the USA and Great Britain are understood, can guarantee that Russia will not attack Ukraine.

      Are we going to attack ourselves? It's not even funny ...
      But seriously, I am personally sure that an operation to de-Nazify and enforce peace is simply necessary in Ukraine !!!
      And yes, exactly AT Ukraine because these are the rules of the Russian language.
      1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 10 October 2020 16: 22
        21
        Quote: olegfbi
        Are we going to attack ourselves? It's not even funny ...
        But seriously, I am personally sure that an operation to de-Nazify and enforce peace is simply necessary in Ukraine !!!

        Yes, it would not hurt to disinfect there! hi
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 11 October 2020 06: 10
          +3
          The apostrophe is not able to understand that if suddenly Russia does not like NATO's insolent behavior in the airspace of Ukraine, how this space within 15 minutes will become COMPLETELY INACCESSIBLE for any aviation, excluding Russian.
          And if Europe and SUCH a hint do not reach, then the air production in Europe itself may be closed for about an hour, while the orientation system, which is the same for ALL flying and floating ships (including its military unit), will be disabled ... This, in turn, entails the complete inoperability of electronic and digital sighting devices and other guidance and orientation systems in space.
    2. Mitroha
      Mitroha 10 October 2020 16: 22
      19
      For the sake of fairness, it is worth saying that not only Ukraine is strong by partisan and not very much going to the media, in our Freedom and Rains you also sometimes hear this, whoosh cry. And I have not mentioned this about Svanidze yet. Clinic on clinic and clinic drives.
      1. olegfbi
        olegfbi 10 October 2020 17: 38
        +4
        Clinic on clinic and clinic drives.

        You're right!
        Sometimes a very strange soap even visits me - Why was the notorious article 58 canceled ...
        1. K298rtm
          K298rtm 10 October 2020 19: 31
          -9
          Are you 100% sure that you will not have a SVPSh?
        2. hydrox
          hydrox 11 October 2020 06: 25
          +1
          How was it canceled?
          "Criminal Code of the Russian Federation" from 13.06.1996 N 63-ФЗ (ed. From 31.07.2020)
          Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 58. Appointment of persons sentenced to imprisonment of a type of correctional institution.
          So, there is only "the highest measure of social protection", as there is no political will to apply the Criminal Code to thieves in power: if they are fought at such a torquey pace, then even our grandchildren and great-grandchildren will not wait for a fair punishment for thieves 1992- 96 years, who stole from the people everything that the people accumulated for themselves for 70 years and defended this good and their living space with millions of their lives.
        3. Egor53
          Egor53 11 October 2020 09: 10
          +2
          There is in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 275. High treason. The term for it is 12 - 20 years. The actions of people like Navalny, Svanidze, etc. fall under this article. They simply do not apply this article to Echo of Moscow and other liberal structures. But in vain.
        4. PSih2097
          PSih2097 11 October 2020 11: 58
          0
          Quote: olegfbi
          Sometimes a very strange soap even visits me - Why was the notorious article 58 canceled ...

          Quote: hydrox
          How was it canceled?

          Criminal Code of the RSFSR, edition 1926 ...
          58.1. Any action aimed at overthrowing, undermining or weakening the power of the workers 'and peasants' councils and the ones elected by them, on the basis of the Constitution of the USSR and the constitutions of the union republics, workers 'and peasants' governments of the USSR, union and autonomous republics, or to undermine or weaken external security is recognized as counter-revolutionary. USSR and the main economic, political and national achievements of the proletarian revolution.
          Due to the international solidarity of the interests of all working people, the same actions are recognized as counter-revolutionary even when they are directed at any other state of the working people, even if it is not part of the USSR. [June 6, 1927 (SU No. 49, article 330)].
          58.1a. Treason to the homeland, that is, actions committed by citizens of the USSR to the detriment of the military might of the USSR, its state independence or the inviolability of its territory, such as: espionage, issuance of military or state secrets, going over to the side of the enemy, flight or flight abroad punishable by capital punishment - by shooting with confiscation of all property, and under extenuating circumstances - by imprisonment for a term of ten years [2] with confiscation of all property. [July 20, 1934 (SU No. 30, article 173)] [3].
          58.1b. The same crimes committed by military personnel are punishable by the highest measure of criminal punishment - shooting with confiscation of all property. [July 20, 1934 (SU No. 30, Article 173)].
          58.1c. In the event of a soldier's escape or flight abroad, the adult members of his family, if they contributed in any way to the impending or committed treason, or at least knew about it, but did not bring it to the attention of the authorities, are punished - by imprisonment for a term of five to ten years with the confiscation of all property.
          The rest of the adult members of the traitor's family, who lived with him or were dependent on him at the time of the crime, are subject to deprivation of voting rights and exile to remote regions of Siberia for five years. [July 20, 1934 (SU No. 30, Article 173)].
          58.1g. Failure to report on the part of a soldier about an impending or committed treason - entails - imprisonment for ten years.
          Failure to report by other citizens (not military personnel) is prosecuted in accordance with Art. 5812. [July 20, 1934 (SU No. 30, Article 173)].
          58.2. An armed uprising or invasion of the Soviet territory by armed bands for counterrevolutionary purposes, the seizure of power in the center or in the localities for the same purposes and, in particular, with the aim of forcibly severing any part of its territory from the USSR and a separate union republic or dissolving prisoners by the Union SSR treaties with foreign states entail - the highest measure of social protection - execution or declaration of the enemy of workers with confiscation of property and deprivation of citizenship of the Union republic and, thereby, citizenship of the USSR and expulsion from the USSR forever, with the assumption that mitigating circumstances, demotion to imprisonment for a term of at least three years, with confiscation of all or part of the property. [June 6, 1927 (SU No. 49, article 330)].
          58.3. Counterrevolutionary relations with a foreign state or its individual representatives, as well as contributing in any way to a foreign state that is at war with the USSR or is fighting with it by intervention or blockade, entail - social protection measures specified in st. 58² of this Code. [June 6, 1927 (SU No. 49, article 330)].
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 11 October 2020 11: 59
            0
            58.4. Providing, in any way, assistance to that part of the international bourgeoisie, which, not recognizing the equality of the communist system that is replacing the capitalist system, seeks to overthrow it, as well as to social groups and organizations that are under the influence or directly organized by this bourgeoisie, in the implementation of hostile against the USSR, activities entail - imprisonment for a period of at least three years with confiscation of all or part of the property, with an increase, under especially aggravating circumstances, up to the highest measure of social protection - shooting or declaring an enemy of workers, with deprivation of citizenship of the Union republic and , thereby, citizenship of the USSR and expulsion from the USSR forever, with the confiscation of property. [June 6, 1927 (SU No. 49, article 330)].
            58.5. Inclination of a foreign state or any public groups in it, through communication with their representatives, the use of false documents or by other means, to declare war, to intervene in the affairs of the USSR or other hostile actions, in particular: to a blockade, to seize state property USSR or union republics, the severance of diplomatic relations, the severance of agreements concluded with the USSR, etc., entails the measures of social protection specified in Art. 582 of this Code. [June 6, 1927 (SU No. 49, article 330)].
            58.6. Espionage, that is, the transfer, abduction or collection for the purpose of transferring information, which in its content is a specially protected state secret, to foreign states, counter-revolutionary organizations or private individuals, entails - imprisonment for a period of at least three years, with the confiscation of all or part of the property, and in cases where espionage caused or could cause especially grave consequences for the interests of the USSR, the highest measure of social protection - shooting or declaring the enemy of workers, with deprivation of the citizenship of the Union republic and, thus, citizenship of the USSR and expulsion from the USSR forever, with the confiscation of property.
            Transfer, theft or collection for the purpose of transferring economic information that does not constitute in its content specially protected state secrets, but which are not subject to disclosure by direct prohibition of the law or by order of the heads of departments, institutions and enterprises, for remuneration or free of charge, to organizations and persons mentioned above, entail - imprisonment for up to three years. [June 6, 1927 (SU No. 49, article 330)].
            Note 1. Information listed in a special list approved by the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR in agreement with the Councils of People's Commissars of the Union republics and published for general information is considered a specially protected state secret. [June 6, 1927 (SU No. 49, article 330)] [4]
            Note 2. With regard to the espionage of persons referred to in Art. 1931 of this Code, Art. 19324 of the same Code. [January 9, 1928 (SU No. 12, article 108)].
            58.7. Undermining of state industry, transport, trade, money circulation or the credit system, as well as cooperation, committed for counter-revolutionary purposes through the appropriate use of state institutions and enterprises or opposition to their normal activities, as well as the use of state institutions and enterprises or opposition to their activities, committed in the interests former owners or interested capitalist organizations, entail - social protection measures specified in Art. 582 of this Code. [June 6, 1927 (SU No. 49, article 330)].
            58.8. The commission of terrorist acts directed against representatives of the Soviet government or leaders of revolutionary workers and peasant organizations, and participation in the implementation of such acts, even by persons who do not belong to a counter-revolutionary organization, entail - the measures of social protection specified in Art. 582 of this Code. [June 6, 1927 (SU No. 49, article 330)].
            58.9. Destruction or damage with a counter-revolutionary purpose by explosion, arson or other means of railway or other routes and means of communication, public communications, water supply systems, public warehouses and other structures or state or public property entails - social protection measures specified in Art. 582 of this Code. [June 6, 1927 (SU No. 49, article 330)].
            58.10. Propaganda or agitation containing a call for the overthrow, undermining or weakening of Soviet power or for the commission of certain counter-revolutionary crimes (Articles 582-589 of this Code), as well as the distribution or production or storage of literature of the same content, entail -
            imprisonment for a term of not less than six months.
            The same actions during mass unrest or with the use of religious or national prejudices of the masses, or in a military situation, or in areas declared under martial law, entail - the measures of social protection specified in Art. 582 of this Code. [June 6, 1927 (SU No. 49, article 330)].
            58.11. Any kind of organizational activity, directions for the preparation or commission of crimes provided for in this chapter, as well as participation in an organization formed for the preparation or commission of one of the crimes provided for in this chapter, entail - social protection measures specified in the relevant articles of this chapter. [June 6, 1927 (SU No. 49, article 330)].
            58.12. Failure to report a reliably known impending or committed counter-revolutionary crime entails imprisonment for a term of at least six months. [June 6, 1927 (SU No. 49, article 330)].
            58.13. Active actions or active struggle against the working class and the revolutionary movement, manifested in a responsible or secret (agents) position under the tsarist system or among counter-revolutionary governments during the civil war, entail - social protection measures specified in Art. 582 of this Code. [June 6, 1927 (SU No. 49, article 330)].
            58.14. Counterrevolutionary sabotage, that is, deliberate failure by someone to fulfill certain duties or deliberately negligent fulfillment of them with the special purpose of weakening the power of the government and the activities of the state apparatus, entails imprisonment for a period of at least one year, with the confiscation of all or part of the property, with an increase, under especially aggravating circumstances, up to the highest measure of social protection - execution, with confiscation of property. [June 6, 1927 (SU No. 49, article 330)].

            That's it ...
      2. frruc
        frruc 10 October 2020 22: 19
        0
        In Ukraine, street women of low social status have already become military analysts and experts. fellow
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          1. URAL72
            URAL72 10 October 2020 16: 58
            11
            Better explain why such a laughing power as Ukraine has an aircraft carrier? more precisely on what shishi? Laughed with the intelligence of the Expert from the heart ...
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              1. URAL72
                URAL72 10 October 2020 17: 03
                +2
                And this is on the topic of "equal"
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                2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
                  GELEZNII_KAPUT 11 October 2020 07: 43
                  +1
                  And this is on the topic of "equal"

                  Aha, the intergalactic convention! laughing
                3. Alex Justice
                  Alex Justice 11 October 2020 17: 39
                  0
                  What problems? Dressed unusually?
          2. stalki
            stalki 10 October 2020 17: 52
            +1
            And who are you? Ukrainian or what? Are they all so "witty"? It is necessary to put on a thicker quilted jacket, it is not even an hour to poke everyone and everything laughing laughing laughing cacti pancake zhovto-blockit, like weeds have been growing lately and no rain.
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              1. stalki
                stalki 10 October 2020 18: 06
                +1
                Here's what we needed to find out. So for what, well, you understand, you are commenting here? So, to observe neutrality? So observe where you are from. And we here among the brothers will decide everything ourselves.
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                  1. stalki
                    stalki 10 October 2020 18: 31
                    +4
                    So we don't have freedom of speech. Those like you squeak about it in all corners. We're all here in barbed wire and on starvation rations. And you mean freedom of speech. You need this overseas. To their internet. There and lalyakayte as much as you like, about how bad we live here. And about how great they are, what kind of equality they have for all and sundry and sexes and cops and bugs.
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                      1. stalki
                        stalki 10 October 2020 18: 39
                        +7
                        So go in peace, since there is nothing. And what have you forgotten here? Unless we can sleep off the ambition, so be free hi
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                      3. stalki
                        stalki 10 October 2020 19: 03
                        +6
                        Yes, you can tell that you are a weak, low-grade loser. Who unsuccessfully tries to humiliate someone gets perverse pleasure. Have you tried your head against the wall? It's basically the same thing.
                      4. demon
                        demon 10 October 2020 19: 26
                        -13 qualifying.
                        Why humiliate? This is an objective reality. And if it is humiliating for you, these are your problems. And the truth is easy and pleasant to speak, yes
                      5. stalki
                        stalki 10 October 2020 19: 38
                        +5
                        It is necessary to wipe the lens. For me, you are just another mosquito no more, waved it off and went on. Read the comments carefully. And then write the answer to what is not.
                      6. demon
                        demon 10 October 2020 19: 43
                        -13 qualifying.
                        ... waved it off and walked on. Stock up on deadwood laughing
                2. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 10 October 2020 21: 31
                  +6
                  Quote: iblis
                  And I like to mock the Third World.

                  I will clarify for you the Zryailites ... Russia is the third Rome! Israel is the third world ... Born into the world only thanks to the USSR and personally Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin ... Without these characters, the brave SS men would burn all the Jews in the furnaces of the concentration camps! Ferstein!? Chi nicht, fershtein, as they say in Ukraine .... This, then.
  • AllBiBek
    AllBiBek 10 October 2020 16: 55
    +4
    What and how they think - others decide for them. For thirty years already.
    And you don't even need to promise anything, it is enough to lie emotionally in three boxes as much as possible.
    1. demon
      demon 10 October 2020 16: 58
      -27 qualifying.
      And even so. Does this somehow justify the aggression of the Russian Federation against them?
      1. AllBiBek
        AllBiBek 10 October 2020 17: 03
        15
        What kind of aggression? Where? When?
        This is when they began to cut and burn the Russian language, and now they howl "And for us?"
        Aggression - is it volunteers and instructors, who are there on both sides of the conflict?
        Or, do we aggressively not allow gas to be tapped, and just as aggressively sell bacon and bread, because we do not have enough of our own?
        Where is the aggression? How many Ukrainian children, women, and old people were killed in Ukraine by Russian troops?
        There are enough reverse numbers, and do not make a surprised face, like they are unknown to you.
        1. demon
          demon 10 October 2020 17: 06
          -25 qualifying.
          Well, as when ... probably at that very moment, miners with combine operators poured into the military. Stock up
      2. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
        tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 10 October 2020 17: 38
        +7
        Duc. Sluggish seluks are taught with whips. And here an exemplary flogging should take place.
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          1. AllBiBek
            AllBiBek 10 October 2020 18: 43
            +7
            You are completely sad with the knowledge of history, you are not even aware that one of the indirect causes of the Civil War in the United States was the abolition of Serfdom in Ingushetia ...
            1. demon
              demon 10 October 2020 18: 59
              -11 qualifying.
              In essence, what does it change?
              1. AllBiBek
                AllBiBek 10 October 2020 19: 59
                +6
                Конечно.
                A stubborn fanatic and a stupid and illiterate stubborn fanatic are different sizes.
                Don't you know?
  • poquello
    poquello 10 October 2020 17: 01
    +4
    Quote: iblis
    Wow. But Ukrainians don't think so

    what Ukrainians can consider with such a restriction of freedom of information as theirs, the last clinic is the desire to prohibit Ukrainians from downloading "in contact" in Google and upstore, and if I understand correctly - and who does not COUNT because their huntyashka can be jailed))) ))))))))))))
    1. demon
      demon 10 October 2020 17: 07
      -14 qualifying.
      Simple unreadable text. Try to communicate your thoughts in a coherent way.
      1. poquello
        poquello 10 October 2020 17: 17
        11
        Quote: iblis
        Simple unreadable text. Try to communicate your thoughts in a coherent way.

        What are you doing here with such knowledge of Russian?
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          1. poquello
            poquello 10 October 2020 17: 40
            +9
            Quote: iblis
            How can I tell you. Studied the language from the classics of literature. Russian. And you have to wade through the jargon. This is difficult. Very

            classic is good, especially when you learn it correctly

            Rotten autumn has long come
            Birds begin to peck shit.
            The crow shit on the old fence
            Well, the weather, it’s your mother.
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              1. poquello
                poquello 10 October 2020 17: 55
                +8
                Quote: iblis
                Whole villages exchanged for puppies for greyhounds.

                well, this is IMHO a revolutionary bogey to scare the people and raise them to the revolutionary struggle, single nasty cases are everywhere
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                  1. AllBiBek
                    AllBiBek 10 October 2020 18: 45
                    +5
                    So when did you say slavery was abolished in the USA, and when serfdom was abolished in Ingushetia?
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                  3. AllBiBek
                    AllBiBek 10 October 2020 20: 17
                    +7
                    Ie you do not even know that the US abbreviation appeared on the eve of the Second World War, and before that in any Russian-language literature they were the North American United States, abbreviated to USA?
                    Have you ever read anything in this life, except for Ukrainian waste paper on the history of Ukraine from the time of the Big Bang to the present day?
              2. poquello
                poquello 10 October 2020 21: 43
                0
                Quote: iblis
                Yes Yes. And yet out of slavery later released niggers. But this is also so-so ... a trifle ...

                and this is what? the ban on the trade in blacks came out in the Republic of Ingushetia 20 years earlier final the prohibition of serfdom, not much later than the prohibitions in Europe, but in some places even earlier. And this muck came to Russia exactly from Europe under the Westernizer Borka Godunov, for
                under Grozny, and even then not slaves and slaves were only bondage.
      2. Ros 56
        Ros 56 10 October 2020 18: 21
        +6
        Few clowns like you were taught in Ukraine under Petliura, and even during the Second World War, apparently they were not taught. Otherwise I would not have fought bullshit. No need to argue, not to prove something with your wretched grins.
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          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 10 October 2020 18: 45
            +5
            Well, you tell it in Israel on Victory Day, maybe they will knock you a penny.
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          2. Prisoner
            Prisoner 10 October 2020 18: 51
            +3
            Well, thanks for not going to the gas chambers. Otherwise, it would have happened to you, if "God had not given horns to the butting cow." hi
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              1. Prisoner
                Prisoner 10 October 2020 19: 59
                +3
                winked And you, no less cute? Fertility boom? "While the fat one dries, the thin one dies." hi
  • tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
    tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 10 October 2020 17: 33
    +2
    "Wow. But the Ukrainians don't think so" ...
    The opinion and problems of the Indians do not interest the sheriff.
    1. demon
      demon 10 October 2020 17: 52
      -14 qualifying.
      Right! Exactly!! All altogether 146 percent Indian support to the sheriff is guaranteed laughing
  • Mitroha
    Mitroha 10 October 2020 17: 51
    +5
    Quote: iblis
    Wow. But Ukrainians don't think so

    This is their right. But if you ask around, it turns out that there are not very many of those "Ukrainians"
    1. demon
      demon 10 October 2020 17: 56
      -17 qualifying.
      And you (and you) have nothing else to do? In Rossiyushka all are nourished and happy immensely?
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha 10 October 2020 23: 33
        +1
        Have you decided to tell me what to do? Do you miss your citizens?
  • MKPU-115
    MKPU-115 10 October 2020 17: 59
    +2
    Quote: iblis
    Wow. But Ukrainians don't think so

    Did they ask them? wassat
  • ZEMCH
    ZEMCH 10 October 2020 18: 34
    +6
    But first, Ukrainians are not asked, neither by the government, nor by other states.
    And secondly, there are several basic commandments for women with low social responsibility:
    1. Do not fuss under the client;
    2. Make the right sounds at the right time;
    3. Share with the pimp.
    The state policy of the territory bearing the proud name of Ukraine is focused on the strict implementation of these commandments. The statehood of Ukraine has never been independent, from the word - completely!))
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 10 October 2020 22: 03
      +2
      Quote: ZEMCH
      The statehood of Ukraine has never been independent, from the word - completely!))

      Something like this.
      I read the article, remembered their chant on the Maidan - "Remember the stranger, here is Mr. Ukrainian" and I think about what they were screaming about, if in the sky, on land and at sea they are ruled by anyone except Ukrainians, and they themselves pass it off as great relief. request
  • Machete
    Machete 10 October 2020 15: 51
    11
    Duc, we've been attacked for 6 years ...
    Well, the brakes are in NATO. fellow
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 10 October 2020 16: 12
      13
      Quote: Machete
      Duc, we've been attacked for 6 years ...

      Ukraine has been at war with us for 6 years, and we didn't even show up for the war ...

      A legitimate question - where is the place for a person who thinks that a lamp post is fighting with him, or the radio is picking him up? The simple answer is in a closed-type medical institution, in the same room with a couple of Napoleons ...
      1. Machete
        Machete 10 October 2020 16: 15
        +9
        How many times have already been written in Europe that their containment helped them to contain us, since we did not attack.
        And the fact that no one was going to attack ..... no one cares.
      2. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 10 October 2020 16: 20
        12
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Ukraine has been at war with us for 6 years, and we did not even show up for the war ...

        And the war with the Russian Federation does not prevent them from trading with the Russian Federation ... chamber No. 6
      3. Rusinoff
        Rusinoff 10 October 2020 16: 25
        +4
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Ukraine has been at war with us for 6 years, and we didn't even show up for the war ...

        We know how to secretly fight Igor! soldier
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        A legitimate question - where is the place for a person who thinks that a lamp post is fighting with him, or the radio is picking him up? The simple answer is in a closed-type medical facility, in the same room with a couple of Napoleons

        In Kharkov there was a mental hospital (of the union value), it was closed in the early 90s. Here are the Maidans and the rod ..))))

        This is how things are going again))))
      4. ZEMCH
        ZEMCH 10 October 2020 17: 06
        +4
        Does Zhdanov really think that NATO planes and ships are there because of Ukraine? Precisely to be treated)) Ukraine is a pretext for being present in the region, not its protection. The third world war will not start because of Ukraine
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 10 October 2020 17: 53
          +7
          Quote: ZEMCH
          The third world war will not start because of Ukraine

          Well, Archduke Ferdinand for the beginning of the First World War was also the reason was so-so ... The main thing is not the reason. The main thing is the desire to start a war. Because of Ukraine, the Baltics, Navalny, Belarus, Assad - it doesn't matter what. And there ... "Death will find a cause ..." Judging by the latest American gestures, they believe that they are fully and completely ready to fight with Russia. At the same time, it is believed that no one in the entire history of Russia "succeeded", but America will succeed. Well, of course - they are pumping such trillions into the army! In vain, or what? Here are just a nation of hucksters, in accordance with the baryzh's notions of life, requires "securing" the investment. In other words, guarantees that they will be able to defeat Russia. Otherwise, they do not agree to fight.
          But in the case of Russia, no one will give a guarantee of victory to America. Moreover, not a single smart bookmaker (except, perhaps, Ukrainian, Baltic and Georgian ones. But "smart" is not about them) will take a bet on America's victory.
  • AVA77
    AVA77 10 October 2020 15: 53
    12
    Two B-52s will save the giant of thought and the father of Ukrainian democracy wassat
    1. Machete
      Machete 10 October 2020 15: 57
      +5
      They wrote: Even ONE ship is guaranteed to protect against attack. And, already, with two bombers .... Well, here, too, and the aliens will dump without looking back.
      1. AVA77
        AVA77 10 October 2020 16: 11
        +9
        Every joke has its share of a joke. wink
  • Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 15: 56
    +3
    Zhdanov - Clown, what ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 10 October 2020 16: 13
    +3
    Do not touch them, they themselves will cope with the destruction of the country .... although, the minke whales can customize their own there, and this is a minus, no matter how you look at it.
    1. cniza
      cniza 10 October 2020 16: 40
      +4
      Ukraine will have to be liberated sooner or later.
      1. MKPU-115
        MKPU-115 10 October 2020 18: 03
        +3
        Quote: cniza
        Ukraine will have to be liberated sooner or later.

        What for? They themselves will creep, only as separate areas.
        1. cniza
          cniza 10 October 2020 18: 07
          +4
          Are you leaving the rest of the Bandera members free? Not worth it, they didn’t finish it once, now we have to decide finally.
          1. MKPU-115
            MKPU-115 10 October 2020 18: 14
            +2
            Quote: cniza
            Are you leaving the rest of the Bandera members free? Not worth it, they didn’t finish it once, now we have to decide finally.

            And give these to Poland.
            1. cniza
              cniza 10 October 2020 18: 26
              +2
              If only together with the territories in which they sit.
              1. MKPU-115
                MKPU-115 10 October 2020 18: 28
                0
                Quote: cniza
                If only together with the territories in which they sit.

                The Poles simply cannot refuse this offer. They will remember everything to them, this is not grandfather Stalin, who gave them 10 years in camps.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 10 October 2020 18: 37
                  +3
                  Yes, they dispose of them very quickly ...
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 10 October 2020 19: 39
        +2
        Everything has its time ..... first of all, we need to put things in order at home.
        1. cniza
          cniza 10 October 2020 20: 01
          +3
          This is fair and correct, you must first put yourself in order.
  • Rusinoff
    Rusinoff 10 October 2020 16: 18
    0
    US ships and aircraft guarantee the safety of Ukraine from Russia

    This? Yes .. negative

    Here, of course, this clan needs support ... in Kiev, Russophobia is now in the price ..
  • svp67
    svp67 10 October 2020 16: 18
    +6
    In addition, NATO planes protect the skies of Ukraine from Russian aviation, especially if they are American strategic bombers.
    But they just think they are flying in the sky of the "backyard of Russia" ...
    And they are not going to defend any Ukraine. All these statements of the "disrespectful expert" are huge stupidity and an attempt to "hype"
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 10 October 2020 16: 40
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      fly in the sky of the "backyards of Russia" ... And they are not going to defend any Ukraine. All these statements by the "disrespectful expert" are huge stupidity and an attempt to "hype"

      No dear svp67, well, how are you completely not democratically call the congenital "Svidomo" for trying "hype" ... although it may be the same thing.
      It is clear that there is no smell of "expert" here
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 10 October 2020 16: 27
    +7
    In 2008, the United States has already guaranteed something to Georgia. And they quickly merged when the Russian Mirage destroyed two Georgian boats.
  • cniza
    cniza 10 October 2020 16: 39
    +7
    Zhdanov also explained that since Ukraine has a military doctrine of a defensive nature, it does not need an aircraft carrier capable of simultaneously controlling sea and sky.


    Ukraine already practically does not need anything, since it is controlled by everyone except the people of Ukraine, there is no Ukraine, but there is the occupied territory of the former Ukraine.
  • nnm
    nnm 10 October 2020 16: 41
    +2
    Dear colleagues, congratulations, there are many more comments on VO under this article than under the original. There are only 7 comments. (https://apostrophe.ua/ua/article/society/2020-10-08/bombardirovschiki-b-52-garantiruyut-chto-rossiya-v-ukrainu-ne-polezet---voennyiy-ekspert/35489)
    But the most unpleasant thing in the comments under the original is that Ukrainians are happy like children that they have completely lost their independence and are ready to lick the chassis of American aircraft.
  • AllBiBek
    AllBiBek 10 October 2020 16: 47
    +4
    "The presence of wolves inside the sheep's steel guarantees the sheep safety from dead dogs, especially against the background of the confrontation between the sheep and the shepherd who has a double-barreled gun."
  • Ded_Mazay
    Ded_Mazay 10 October 2020 16: 55
    +3
    As the military expert of "Apostrophe" Oleg Zhdanov said

    What country, such is the press with experts ... laughing

    By the way, why reprint this "miracle of journalism" here on VO?
  • Dizel200
    Dizel200 10 October 2020 16: 58
    +6
    VO periodically publishes news from wards 6 or 9. What for? What would we know if Napoleon was chosen there? laughing
  • vblotov
    vblotov 10 October 2020 17: 04
    +3
    They probably do not understand that by entering Ukraine and even approaching it, they are entering the zone of operation of the Russian air defense. Shooting down such a monster is easy. The goal is great. There, brothers, the Ukrainians have soaked the Malay Boeing from the very old. And for this something modern is not a pity. Plus, there is still a danger that with such a load, they can simply flop in Uraine. And their weapons can be vigorous. And no war is needed. They will destroy the floor of Ukraine themselves.
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 10 October 2020 17: 13
    0
    It's time ... it's time to deploy both Aviation and Fleet ... and strategists in Cuba)) ... marines ... under the pretext of protecting the interests of Russia and guaranteeing the security of the Bering Strait))) ... because the Americans do not know how to restrain and climb where did not stick)
    1. dgonni
      dgonni 11 October 2020 11: 12
      -2
      Is there something to post and why? Didn't you ask this question?
  • The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 10 October 2020 17: 15
    +3
    It is clear that the ghoul, it is clear that the order .. but!
    How can bombers "guard the sky", Karl ???
    Well, you can't do that !!!)))
    SoPsem ku-ku)))
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 10 October 2020 17: 23
    +2
    ... is a guarantee of Ukraine's security, especially against the backdrop of the confrontation with Russia. Writes about this Ukrainian edition "Apostrophe".

    Georgians in 2008 also thought so.
    They managed with a special load of toilet paper.
  • Andrea
    Andrea 10 October 2020 17: 25
    +2
    They will draw a hefty target on Nenka.
    Who would save you from yourself.
  • 9 Shaft
    9 Shaft 10 October 2020 17: 45
    +1
    Insanity grows stronger against the background of invented aggression. The "depth" of thought is right on the surface. But for some reason, there is no understanding and realization that the Russian Federation may not like it. Adequate measures can be taken.
  • Aleksandr123
    Aleksandr123 10 October 2020 17: 46
    +3
    "Two B-52 strategic bombers can guarantee that our skies will be closed to Russian aviation."
    Well I do not know. In general, this is a bomber, not a fighter. How can he close the sky? Only with its immense carcass, into which you can get, probably, even from a howitzer. Look, for example, in Vietnam, they tried to close the sky. These bombers themselves need protection.
  • nod739
    nod739 10 October 2020 17: 56
    0
    Good help), then Ukraine is the last economy in Europe ...
    of all the top that they occupied 20-30 years ago, breathing down the back of the head of all these Germans and British, and somewhere ahead of them, went to hell ...
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  • nod739
    nod739 10 October 2020 18: 00
    0
    I wonder how the B-52 closes the sky?
    1. cniza
      cniza 10 October 2020 18: 08
      +4
      The Ukrainian expert thinks that the larger the plane, the more it closes. lol
    2. MKPU-115
      MKPU-115 10 October 2020 18: 12
      0
      Quote: nod739
      I wonder how the B-52 closes the sky?

      Well, something like this.

      The wreckage of a B-52 bomber shot down northwest of Hanoi on December 18, 1972, soldiers and journalists are photographed.
    3. Rostovchanin
      Rostovchanin 11 October 2020 00: 59
      0
      It covers from the sun ...
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 10 October 2020 18: 07
    0
    And NatY know that they are protecting Ukraine from Russia, and not doing their dark deeds?
    1. cniza
      cniza 10 October 2020 18: 09
      +2
      They don't even bother about Ukraine, they solve their problems ...
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  • PValery53
    PValery53 10 October 2020 18: 11
    0
    The Anglossaxons (from the word "piss") have completely lost the krams: without ensuring the security of their territories, they climb to the borders of Russia in order to get their "legal gingerbread". We will provide them with a guaranteed "full board" in debunking their power!
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 10 October 2020 18: 12
    +4
    I would like to ask, did you just find out?
    If it weren't '14, B52s flew from Sevastopol already.
    I am exaggerating, of course, but the situation with UA was very much launched and now there are a lot of problems on the exhaust.
    We must finally draw some conclusions. And do not miss new blows from all sides! Or how? .. Or where? ... hi
  • Alexander Belogortsev
    Alexander Belogortsev 10 October 2020 18: 24
    +2
    It is high time to close the airspace over Ukraine, block the ports of Odessa and Mariupol for NATO warships and stop supplying oil products and other strategic goods for the Bandera government. Because of this lack of statehood, NATO is unlikely to start a war with Russia, and we are no stranger to sanctions. Remember, the West is afraid of the strong.
  • AB
    AB 10 October 2020 18: 26
    +2
    Well, I don't understand Ruin, why give everyone the opportunity to go there, with the name Zhdanov, to say all sorts of nonsense, but in Russia to reprint this crap?
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  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 10 October 2020 18: 37
    0
    Another confirmation that lard is harmful, especially in chocolate ...
  • Growlers
    Growlers 10 October 2020 18: 38
    -1
    Ukrainian agitprop workers do not get tired of harnessing NATO's "donkey" into their ancient cart ... Without bothering to understand that the territory of Ukraine, their new "friends" and "allies" are assigned the modest role of a battlefield, a neutral zone, a cordon sanitaire ..... ... To put it bluntly, an instrument in confrontation with Russia, an instrument that no one is going to protect
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  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 10 October 2020 19: 46
    0
    Russia says that two ancient flying American sheds make their air defense systems laugh)))
  • maktub
    maktub 10 October 2020 19: 47
    -1
    Here you are dull, America wants to be closer to you, so it sends messengers, and you drive them away laughing
    The article is nonsense and your reaction to it ...
  • Vicontas
    Vicontas 10 October 2020 19: 54
    0
    Commenting on the hopes of Ukraine, I would like to ask a question! How did the Americans present there help Georgia in 2008? Those Americans who are still whining, demanding the return of theirs "Hummers" with secret equipment and documents that the "guarantors of Georgian independence" have lost from the Russian army? As far as is known, the Americans did not receive any documents or equipment! Even instead of "Hummers" got a cookie. And what did Russia "defenders of democracy and oppressed pe..erastov" do? Pretended to be rags and swallowed in silence! And Ukraine must be taken under control by the forces of the LPNR troops, cleaned of Banderlog and annexed! Or the missile base in Nikolaev will become a reality from plans!
  • APASUS
    APASUS 10 October 2020 20: 02
    +2
    Apostrophe: US ships and aircraft guarantee the security of Ukraine from Russia

    What do they guarantee?
    The same assurances 080808 in Georgia
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 10 October 2020 20: 08
    0
    The security of Ukraine is guaranteed by Ukraine itself, when it does not make sudden moves in military terms
  • Kerensky
    Kerensky 10 October 2020 20: 32
    +2
    A good plane, very good - they will definitely give a Hero for it. (FROM)
  • Kelwin
    Kelwin 10 October 2020 20: 57
    0
    Awesome cretin ...)) well, amen, in general ..
  • Imperial Technocrat
    Imperial Technocrat 10 October 2020 23: 53
    0
    Joke. US ships and planes near Russian borders are helpless suicide bombers
  • certero
    certero 11 October 2020 00: 48
    0
    A good illustration of a criminal mistake made in the fourteenth year. Instead of taking what rightfully belongs to Russia, we stopped where we left off.
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  • ont65
    ont65 11 October 2020 01: 17
    0
    Question! How will events unfold if such a Boeing is shot down over the territory of Ukraine? - There is just an enchanted place for flights.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 October 2020 03: 34
    0
    As stated military expert "Apostrophe" Oleg Zhdanov, the presence of NATO ships in or near the territorial waters of Ukraine gives guarantees of Ukraine's security.
    Sheep going to slaughter. laughing
  • Tagan
    Tagan 11 October 2020 15: 32
    0
    Quote: iblis
    ... waved it off and walked on. Stock up on deadwood laughing

    Has the Internet been brought to the zoo?
    Even you breathe so unevenly towards the dead wood. Repeat and repeat ...
    Looks like you, wretched, in your area to find a camel thorn for happiness.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 11 October 2020 15: 39
    0
    "The skies of Ukraine from Russian aviation are protected by NATO aircraft, especially if they are American strategic bombers"
    This is what the F35 program has brought - the old bombers have to take the rap. And rush in the sky like those flies.