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Yerevan has transferred Su-30SM fighters of the Armenian Air Force closer to the Turkish border

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Yerevan has transferred Su-30SM fighters of the Armenian Air Force closer to the Turkish border

Yerevan has deployed Su-30SM fighters of the Armenian Air Force closer to the Turkish border. A satellite photo of two fighters of the Armenian Air Force at the Shirak airfield in Gyumri has appeared on the Web.


The photo, published on October 9, 2020, shows two Su-30SM fighters of the Armenian Air Force. All in all, at the moment, there are 4 Su-30SM fighters purchased from Russia. The location of two more fighters is not reported, they may have remained at the Erebuni airfield near Yerevan. Shirak airfield belongs to the city of Gyumri and is located 8 km from the border with Turkey.

In July this year, the media reported on the transfer of the Su-30SM of the Armenian Air Force closer to the border with Azerbaijan due to the escalation of the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh. However, the Armenian Defense Ministry denied this statement, stating that the flights of the fighters were not in any way connected with the conflict, but were connected with daily combat training.

It should be reminded that currently, the Armenian Air Force is armed with four Su-30SM multifunctional fighters. The fighters arrived at the Erebuni airfield near Yerevan at the end of December 2019. Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan then stated that it was "the main acquisition of Armenia in 2019". The delivery was carried out at domestic Russian prices.

In total, the Armenian Defense Ministry expects to receive 12 Su-30SM fighters. It should be noted that before the Su-30SM was received as part of the Armenian Air Force, the fighter aviation did not exist due to the lack of fighters. Only Su-25 attack aircraft were in service with the country's Air Force.

By the way, on October 8, investigative journalist of the New York Times newspaper Christian Tribert published on Twitter a satellite image of October 3, stating that at least two F-16 fighters of the Turkish Air Force were deployed on the territory of the airport in Azerbaijan's Ganja, the presence of which in Azerbaijan is denied.

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  1. Dimon71
    Dimon71 10 October 2020 11: 52
    +9
    Yesterday two dryers 30 CM performed training flights over Yerevan and in the vicinity. I watched from the balcony-BEAUTIFUL. Well, probably later we stayed in Shirak !!!!
    1. SSR
      SSR 10 October 2020 12: 02
      +5
      Quote: Dimon71
      Yesterday two dryers 30 CM performed training flights over Yerevan and in the vicinity. I watched from the balcony-BEAUTIFUL. Well, probably later we stayed in Shirak !!!!

      But the article before your comment looked like we will threaten the Turks from here!)))
      Shirak airfield belongs to the city of Gyumri and is located 8 km from the border with Turkey.

      Although at such a distance, in the case of X, they may not even have time to take off.
      Just the text of the article, a little confusing.
      Thank you for your comment.
      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 10 October 2020 13: 19
        +6
        From here we will threaten the Turks!)))
        Not the scale of the Armenian aviation to threaten the Turks))). Not 4 not 12 aircraft are not enough. At least a hundred were then the neo-Ottomans would have taken into account such a threat.
        1. SSR
          SSR 10 October 2020 13: 44
          +5
          Quote: Pavlos Melas
          Not the scale of the Armenian aviation to threaten the Turks)))

          So I mean it,))) but the title of the article is so "promising"!)))
          Yerevan has transferred Su-30SM fighters of the Armenian Air Force closer to the Turkish border immediately thought, for what, well, at least that byturki seriously perceived the threat to them.)))
      2. Professor
        Professor 10 October 2020 15: 17
        +1
        Quote: SSR
        Although at such a distance, in the case of X, they may not even have time to take off.

        Is Erebuni much further from the Turkish border?
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 11 October 2020 01: 54
          0
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: SSR
          Although at such a distance, in the case of X, they may not even have time to take off.

          Is Erebuni much further from the Turkish border?

          You might think that the Israeli Jews have a huge front depth ...
          1. Professor
            Professor 11 October 2020 19: 53
            +3
            Quote: Lara Croft
            Quote: Professor
            Quote: SSR
            Although at such a distance, in the case of X, they may not even have time to take off.

            Is Erebuni much further from the Turkish border?

            You might think that the Israeli Jews have a huge front depth ...

            Are you comparing the Israeli and Armenian air forces? Reckless. At the time of the USSR, ATTENTION was based on the territory of all Armenia !!! only one squadron in Leninakan and only one detachment in Erebuni. Not a single jet, just helicopters and a couple of cornmen. Moreover, helicopters are exclusively transport. Guess why? Right. The geographic location of airfields in Armenia made them not only vulnerable, but useless. Consider the location of the Israeli Air Force bases?
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    2. Rusinoff
      Rusinoff 10 October 2020 14: 09
      -3
      Quote: Dimon71
      Yesterday two dryers 30 CM performed training flights over Yerevan and in the vicinity. I watched from the balcony-BEAUTIFUL. Well, probably later we stayed in Shirak !!!!

      Well, the protection of Armenia, a member of the CSTO, is sacred. As far as I know, from the first day of the conflict, three fighters constantly fly around Yerevan, etc.
      Well, Turkey in vain got into this conflict .. Erdogan kept silent for something, supposedly nothing, etc.
      This is just the beginning .. hi
      PS Aliev made an attempt and thus gave up on himself .. negative
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 10 October 2020 19: 51
        0
        Quote: Rusinoff
        Three fighters constantly fly around Yerevan

        Interestingly, in the air forces of which countries fly in triplets?
      2. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 11 October 2020 21: 18
        0
        Quote: Rusinoff
        Well, Turkey in vain got into this conflict .. Erdogan kept silent for something, supposedly nothing, etc.
        This is just the beginning ..
        PS Aliev made an attempt and thus gave up on himself ..


        Turkey's actions in the Transcaucasus are for Russia the same as a red rag for a bull. If it were not for this moment, Aliyev could do whatever comes into his head.
  2. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 11: 53
    +9
    Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan then said that this was "the main acquisition of Armenia in 2019". The delivery was carried out at domestic Russian prices.


    Ponty is our FSE, thirst is nothing ...
    If the Armenians were concerned about the modernization of the Osa-AKM, on the Tetrader, they would buy new missiles, and it would be nice to modernize the ZU-23 so it would not be a shame ...


    1. Andy
      Andy 10 October 2020 12: 17
      +6
      do you think that this rarity from the era of battering guns is capable of something? at least in terms of the firing range of the zsushka - well, it will not reach the 8 km ceiling of the bayraktar even after modernization ... the only question is from what distance the drone itself will shoot
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 12: 27
        +7
        Quote: Andy
        do you think that this rarity from the era of battering guns is capable of something?


        I think that the main problem of the Armenians, and these are small and ultra-small UAVs of the type of different Orbiters, solving reconnaissance tasks and the central control unit - the ZU-23 with the modernized SUAO may well solve this once. ZU-23 not to fight the Bayraktar, but with various Orbiters there. Further, the modernized Osa with a new missile defense system is quite capable of hitting targets up to an altitude of 10 km and up to a range of 15-20 km .. The drone will shoot from a range less than the T382 SAM's Dpuska (I'm talking about the modernization of the Tetraeder). We draw conclusions in short for ourselves naturally. I am simply not interested in anything else.
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 10 October 2020 13: 55
          0
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          these are small and ultra-small UAVs of the type of different Orbiters that solve reconnaissance tasks

          The issue of detecting these UAVs. Harop can be heard, but it will be too late.
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 14: 14
            +1
            Quite right. This is what I am writing about. The target is extremely small and extremely difficult to detect. Need, in my opinion, a mm range radar on long millimeters, so that drizzle does not interfere. Moreover, it is quite powerful.
            1. OgnennyiKotik
              OgnennyiKotik 10 October 2020 14: 22
              +3
              Quote: Cyril G ...
              Need in my opinion radar mm range on long millimeters, so that the drizzle does not interfere. Moreover, it is quite powerful.

              Moreover, airborne. In a mountain theater, ground-based radars are practically useless. Something like that, cabled power from the ground system.
        2. Professor
          Professor 10 October 2020 15: 34
          +3
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          We draw conclusions in short for ourselves naturally.

          Shaw again? What conclusions were drawn after the Russian-Georgian war when Shamanov complained about the Georgian drones?
          Shamanov: "In the same Abkhazian direction, Georgian drones were regularly flying over the positions of our troops, and in most cases we had to put up with this. These Hermes UAVs manufactured in Israel for hours with impunity circled over the camp of the paratroopers, because the military air defense systems "did not take" them: the ZU-23 anti-aircraft guns did not fire, and the MANPADS missiles did not fly due to insufficient thermal radiation from the drones."
          On this site, specialists told me that "they just used the wrong systems" against drones, and then Syria happened and everyone made big eyes when the Zionists took out the shells and Buki with a bang, and when the Turks began to do this, they suddenly combed back and began to do it again " to draw conclusions ".
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 15: 48
            +1
            Quote: Professor
            and everyone made big eyes when the Zionists took out the shells and Buki with a bang, and when the Turks began to do it, they suddenly combed themselves again and began to "draw conclusions."

            You have not beguiled anything there dear? The Zionists did not endure a single beech in Syria with a bang, if I know a few, well, or a photo from you. With the introduction of Syrian air defense, it’s generally interesting for you there - 6-8 units were reliably hit (Radar of two hundred, a pair of Armor, etc., etc.). And according to the Air Force Twitter, sorry Israel Syrian air defense destroyed 10 times ...
            Further, 25 Turkish drones of the Male class were shot down by air defense systems in Libya and Syria this year. Really. Let's go and take a look at the Aviation Security Network.

            What conclusions were drawn after the Russian-Georgian war when Shamanov complained about the Georgian drones?


            Our army has a tactical link with drones. And I would like to see how you will shoot down small-class drones ...
            1. Professor
              Professor 10 October 2020 15: 58
              +1
              Quote: Cyril G ...
              You have not beguiled anything there dear? The Zionists did not endure a single beech in Syria with a bang if that.

              No, I didn't mix it up, my dear. He even tried to shoot back, but in the end he heroically shot down an Israeli missile with a ram.

              1:16

              Quote: Cyril G ...
              And 25 Turkish drones of the Male class were shot down by air defense systems in Libya and Syria this year. Really. Let's go and look at the aviation safety network

              Not 25, but 25000 pieces. However, material evidence is mainly like mules knocking out air defense, and not vice versa.


              Quote: Cyril G ...
              Our army has a tactical link with drones. And I would like to see how you will shoot down small-class drones ...

              See
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 10 October 2020 16: 41
                0
                He even tried to shoot back, but in the end he heroically shot down an Israeli missile with a ram.

                Ah .. so now the Beech has become? And that was already Shell and Thor.
                1. Cyril G ...
                  Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 17: 04
                  +1
                  Quote: alexmach
                  He even tried to shoot back, but in the end he heroically shot down an Israeli missile with a ram.

                  Ah .. so now the Beech has become? And that was already Shell and Thor.

                  Quite right. Sleight of hand yes ....
                2. Professor
                  Professor 10 October 2020 20: 19
                  0
                  Quote: alexmach
                  He even tried to shoot back, but in the end he heroically shot down an Israeli missile with a ram.

                  Ah .. so now the Beech has become? And that was already Shell and Thor.

                  In your opinion, this is generally a cartoon. So don't strain yourself. Your sky is securely closed.
                  1. alexmach
                    alexmach 11 October 2020 00: 29
                    0
                    I want to deceive you, yes professor?
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                1. Professor
                  Professor 10 October 2020 20: 22
                  0
                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  First, you confused the Armor with the Buk. Ay-y-yay ...

                  I didn’t mix it up, but your BBC did it. At 1:16 Beech. fellow

                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  Secondly, I know what I am saying, unlike you, you are just an arrogant balabolka ...
                  Once again for the alternatively reasonable, that is, for you - go to the Aviation safty network
                  https://aviation-safety.net
                  You choose Libya and Syria in turn and check my words. Remember Turkish UAVs lost 25 pieces. Then publicly repent here ...

                  You will be rude to mom and dad, but adults need to show documents in a dispute. And you were blown away.

                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  Oh wey. This is bullshit. You better tell me how you will fight with devices of small and ultra-small class ...

                  Put on your glasses and watch the video again. All the answers are there.
                  1. Cyril G ...
                    Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 21: 31
                    0
                    take a look. All the answers are there.

                    The drain is protected by the professor. There is no answer from the word at all ..

                    I didn't mix it up

                    Okay, deliberately lied. There is no beech at 1.16 from the word at all. The Jews are not responsible for their rotten bazaar? The truth is not all of course. Here you do not answer. drain protected.

                    And you were blown away.

                    If you are wallowing in ditches with various rabble, this does not give you the right of the professor to communicate on you ..

                    and adults in a dispute must show evidence.

                    I showed you, and you merged into the toilet by slamming the lid loudly. gave a link to the site and how exactly to search.

                    I expect a loud screech mixed with miasms ...
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 11 October 2020 19: 47
                      +2
                      Quote: Cyril G ...
                      The drain is protected by the professor. There is no answer from the word at all ..

                      No, my young friend. You merged by sending me to the Internet to look for documents, and on the video provided by me is an example of that "how we shoot down small drones".
                      Note not in theory we shoot down, but in battle. I also have a couple of videos of these interceptions. The topic is closed.

                      Quote: Cyril G ...
                      Okay, deliberately lied. There is no beech at 1.16 from the word at all. The Jews are not responsible for their rotten bazaar? The truth is not all of course. Here you do not answer. drain protected.

                      Vision problems again? The missile launch is clearly visible there Beech.

                      Quote: Cyril G ...
                      If you are wallowing in ditches with various rabble, this does not give you the right of the professor to communicate on you ..

                      I do not refer to "you" to boors. They didn't deserve it.

                      Quote: Cyril G ...
                      I showed you, and you merged into the toilet by slamming the lid loudly. gave a link to the site and how exactly to search.

                      No, my young friend, you have not provided a single document. Not one at all. He just merged claiming that as many as 25 (twenty five) drones were shot down. Let's take a photo or video of the wreckage of at least 10 drones. Weak? wink
                      1. Cyril G ...
                        Cyril G ... 11 October 2020 21: 09
                        -1
                        Let's take a photo or video of the wreckage of at least 10 drones.

                        I don’t even understand, in your ditch where you live, it’s obvious to everyone to turn to you? So you are not korefan to me, an ordinary network substance, everyone knows which one. That is, no one can call you.
                        Weak?

                        This is not just the same mentally alternative as you argue about what is not a tooth with a foot.
                        Realizing that due to general illiteracy and rudeness for the reasons mentioned above, you were not able to use the mentioned site, it happens that I specify even more.
                        Here is LA lost over Libya
                        https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?Country=5A, из которых 19 БПЛА относят как
                        owned by GNA and the Turkish Air Force, respectively
                        Here is LA lost over Syria
                        https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?Country=YK

                        I do not refer to "you" to boors. They didn't deserve it.

                        Where am I a boor? These are only such real boors as you allow yourself to be rude to everyone, and when you are lowered as it should be with people like you, they whine pitifully - And for me!

                        Vision problems again? The start of the Buk missiles is clearly visible there.

                        Oh, you have not only vision problems, but you have simply confused the Armor with the Buk. Go materiel teach sick.

                        "how we shoot down small drones."
                        Note not in theory we shoot down, but in battle. I also have a couple of videos of these interceptions. The topic is closed.

                        The topic is closed only in your colored hallucinations.
                        Firstly, these were not small drones serving for reconnaissance and central control, but Male-class. There are no problems to bring down. Secondly, you and the Outpost, somehow in reality, could not fill up. This is already an indicator of the effectiveness of the BBC Twitter oh sorry Israel. In the third, what kind of videos and where they were filmed, in principle, is not clear. Maybe the teachings?
                      2. Professor
                        Professor 12 October 2020 16: 56
                        +4
                        Quote: Cyril G ...
                        I don’t even understand, in your ditch where you live, it’s obvious to everyone to turn to you? So you are not korefan to me, an ordinary network substance, everyone knows which one. That is, no one can call you.

                        To hamam only on "you" and a face on the table.

                        Quote: Cyril G ...
                        This is not just the same mentally alternative as you argue about what is not a tooth with a foot.
                        Realizing that due to general illiteracy and rudeness for the reasons mentioned above, you were not able to use the mentioned site, it happens that I specify even more.
                        Here is LA lost over Libya
                        https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?Country=5A, из которых 19 БПЛА относят как
                        owned by GNA and the Turkish Air Force, respectively
                        Here is LA lost over Syria
                        https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?Country=YK

                        It is also written on the fence, but where is the document? Where is the evidence? Video, photos, serial numbers where? No?

                        Quote: Cyril G ...
                        Where am I a boor? These are only such real boors as you allow yourself to be rude to everyone, and when you are lowered as it should be with people like you, they whine pitifully - And for me!

                        You are a boor everywhere. Mom and Dad did not teach you how to communicate politely with adults.

                        About "lower" you know better. I have no experience in this area.

                        Quote: Cyril G ...
                        Firstly, these were not small drones serving for reconnaissance and central control, but Male-class.

                        Yah? Let's name the studio. Let's laugh together. Then I'll post a photo of its wreckage and laugh at you again. laughing

                        Quote: Cyril G ...
                        Secondly, you and the Outpost, somehow in reality, could not fill up.

                        What did they try to bring down, that they "couldn't"? Were they even going to shoot him down? wink

                        Quote: Cyril G ...
                        This is already an indicator of the effectiveness of the BBC Twitter oh sorry Israel.

                        No one wants to test the effectiveness of the Israeli Air Force. Why is that? By the way, poke your nose again in the video of combat interception of small drones? I have such videos. wassat

                        Quote: Cyril G ...
                        In the third, what kind of videos and where they were filmed, in principle, is not clear. Maybe the teachings?

                        You seem to be literate. It says what kind of videos and where they filmed.

                        PS
                        Guess who put Heathrow's system to combat small drones?
                        https://www.airport-technology.com/news/heathrow-airport-installs-anti-drone-technology-to-detect-threats/


                        PPS
                        No comments
            2. MKPU-115
              MKPU-115 10 October 2020 18: 36
              +2
              Oleg Sokolov, you are not an eagle. WHERE IS THE BOOK ??? Answer for the bazaar.
              1. Professor
                Professor 10 October 2020 20: 23
                -1
                Quote: MKPU-115
                Oleg Sokolov, you are not an eagle. WHERE IS THE BOOK ??? Answer for the bazaar.

                There is no more Beech. He died heroically by intercepting a Zionist missile.
                1. MKPU-115
                  MKPU-115 10 October 2020 21: 10
                  0
                  Quote: Professor
                  Quote: MKPU-115
                  Oleg Sokolov, you are not an eagle. WHERE IS THE BOOK ??? Answer for the bazaar.

                  There is no more Beech. He died heroically by intercepting a Zionist missile.

                  And, well, if only in your sick imagination, glasses will no longer help you.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 11 October 2020 19: 32
                    +1
                    Quote: MKPU-115
                    Quote: Professor
                    Quote: MKPU-115
                    Oleg Sokolov, you are not an eagle. WHERE IS THE BOOK ??? Answer for the bazaar.

                    There is no more Beech. He died heroically by intercepting a Zionist missile.

                    And, well, if only in your sick imagination, glasses will no longer help you.

                    I understand, but I do not share your disappointment. Before the strikes of the Zionists and the Armor were impenetrable and not only they. The fighting put everything in its place.

                    Quote: Cyril G ...
                    liar. there is no Buk on video

                    Of course not. Horns and legs from it remained as well as from 25000 shot down drones.
                2. Cyril G ...
                  Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 21: 31
                  0
                  liar. there is no Buk on video
        3. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 11 October 2020 02: 05
          0
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          We draw conclusions in short for ourselves naturally.

          Shaw again? What conclusions were drawn after the Russian-Georgian war when Shamanov complained about the Georgian drones?
          Shamanov: "In the same Abkhazian direction, Georgian drones were regularly flying over the positions of our troops, and in most cases we had to put up with this. These Hermes UAVs manufactured in Israel for hours with impunity circled over the camp of the paratroopers, because the military air defense systems "did not take" them: the ZU-23 anti-aircraft guns did not fire, and the MANPADS missiles did not fly due to insufficient thermal radiation from the drones."
          On this site, specialists told me that "they just used the wrong systems" against drones, and then Syria happened and everyone made big eyes when the Zionists took out the shells and Buki with a bang, and when the Turks began to do this, they suddenly combed back and began to do it again " to draw conclusions ".

          Better tell us how the Russian UAV opened the air defense of Israeli Jews ...
          1. Professor
            Professor 11 October 2020 19: 36
            +1
            Quote: Lara Croft
            Better tell us how the Russian UAV opened the air defense of Israeli Jews ...

            Well yes. Israeli air defense failed to shoot down an ancient Israeli drone sold to Russia. The hand did not rise to shoot down his drone. But seriously, Israel is not Turkey and not Syria - Russian aircraft do not shoot down. It is not profitable for us to spoil relations with the Kremlin.
      2. PSih2097
        PSih2097 10 October 2020 16: 37
        +1
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        We draw conclusions in short for ourselves naturally.

        I'm wondering why "Torah" is not used?
        The next question is why there is no ZRPK Tunguska / Pantsir, it is true that there is Shilka, but for some reason it was not upgraded even to the ZSU-23-4M4 "Shilka-M4" and even instead of the "Arrow" / "Needle" it is possible to use the "Verba" ??? Did you feel sorry for the money? Only there is a principle - no one saves on their army ... yes, a quote from Napoleon, but this option will run into me more ...
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 17: 06
          +1
          Quote: PSih2097
          at least up to ZSU-23-4M4 "Shilka-M4" and instead of "Arrow" / "Needle" is it possible to use "Verba" ???


          These are the questions I have outlined. Modern air defense was not carried out. And much could have been done. Instead, they bought the Su-30 of little use for Armenia.
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 10 October 2020 17: 59
            0
            Quote: Cyril G ...
            Instead, they bought the Su-30 of little use for Armenia.

            Well, here you are in vain, you can make a set-up for Azerbaijan and Turkey under the Russian Federation (through the CSTO), guess yourself how this can be done, and either Turkey will dump right away and We will see the victory of diplomacy and the Russian army, or once again we will try and make tomato and tourist sanctions and then Putin, the Government + the entire parliament of the Russian Federation (State Duma and Federation Council) and United Russia will collapse (not in the elections, but in the sense of trust) ...
  3. Vadim237
    Vadim237 10 October 2020 14: 08
    0
    Against small kamikaze drones - all these complexes are useless since they can attack simultaneously from different sides.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 14: 23
      +1
      Quote: Vadim237
      all these complexes are useless since they can attack simultaneously from different sides.


      What I said would be enough for Armenians. Azerbaijan does not operate with hundreds of Harop at all.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 10 October 2020 14: 44
        -2
        "Azerbaijan does not operate with hundreds of Harops at all." Are you so sure about that? Since 2011, they have been producing drones themselves, and most likely Haropes are assembling the same. And the fact that the Armenians would have had enough - what to say now when the troops of Karabakh are considered finished and the mass utilization of Armenian artillery and air defense equipment continues.
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 14: 53
          0
          Quote: Vadim237
          what to say now, when the troops of Karabakh are considered finished and the mass disposal of Armenian artillery and air defense equipment continues.


          Firstly, the mass is not noticeable. Secondly, and this is the main thing, I am exclusively interested in the lessons and conclusions regarding the organization of military air defense. No more than ...
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 10 October 2020 16: 04
            +2
            "In the first place, the mass is not noticeable" Very noticeable, especially today.
      2. Airdefense
        Airdefense 10 October 2020 17: 13
        +3
        Most likely it would not be enough, especially given the mountainous terrain, the UAVs greatly changed the theater of operations to cover the base in Syria, Russia urgently brought in serious air defense systems, plus the most competent specialists, and they cover only from homemade UAVs
        For a long time, air defense was developed to protect against aircraft, the CD and the economy was on the side of the air defense, now everything has changed, UAVs are cheap, air defense systems are expensive, training of an UAV operator is cheap, a competent air defense specialist is expensive.
        Yes, now echeloned air defense can cope with UAVs, but organizing such air defense is a very expensive pleasure and sometimes even for money it is impossible to do it quickly, plus UAVs can appear in any sector of the front.
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 17: 17
          +2
          I agree, however, it cannot be said that we did not think about it - we really had to do double work.
          Make MiniZUR for Armor and speak now for Thor

          but organizing such air defense is very

          The problem is that the Armenians, for example, did nothing at all regarding the organization of air defense in the NKAO.
          1. Airdefense
            Airdefense 10 October 2020 17: 23
            +1
            and speaking now and for Thor

            Well, now I think all interested parties will start (and have already begun) work on all fronts, air defense, electronic warfare, there are ideas for UAVs that will fight the same UAVs, etc.
            1. Cyril G ...
              Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 17: 28
              +2
              Something like this. In the part of Pantsyr, in my opinion, it is necessary to fine-tune further guns, or even remove them altogether. + revision of the radar.
              Development of lasers for work on small UAVs, and small arms and cannon complexes.
              By the way, it was the handicraft UAVs moving at the speed of birds that turned out to be an extremely unpleasant surprise for the Khmeimim air defense.
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 10 October 2020 12: 03
    25
    Yerevan has transferred Su-30SM fighters of the Armenian Air Force closer to the Turkish border
    laughing Otherwise, you might think about flying to that border with refueling for half a day. Tell me straight. Yerevan hid its fighters in Gyumri under the Russian air defense umbrella. Well, in principle, they did the right thing. Moreover, they have only four of them.
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 10 October 2020 12: 17
      +5
      For the dull and uninformed. In Gyumri, the Russian 102nd Order of Alexander Nevsky is a Russian military base.
      The base is equipped with S-300V anti-aircraft missile systems (988th anti-aircraft missile regiment), MiG-29 fighters, Mi-24P and Mi-8MT helicopters (part of the 3624th aviation base, Erebuni airfield near Yerevan). The number of the base personnel is about 4 thousand people [
  • svp67
    svp67 10 October 2020 12: 11
    +3
    At least two F-16 fighters of the Turkish Air Force are deployed on the territory of the airport in Azerbaijani Ganja, the presence of which on the territory of Azerbaijan is denied.
    No, the President of Azerbaijan, Aliyev, PERSONALLY, in an interview confirmed their presence at the airbase in Azerbaijan.
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 10 October 2020 12: 12
    +2
    Armenia is the size of two palms))) wherever they "sit", the flight time changes by 1-1,5 minutes.
  • fn34440
    fn34440 10 October 2020 12: 13
    0
    A good target for the Bayraktar TB2 UAV, and the Roketsan MAM-L guided missiles.
    And also for the Israeli Harop produced by the Israeli corporation Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI). Narop is a cheap small-sized disposable UAV with a take-off weight of 135 kg, equipped with an explosive charge (32 kg) and an electro-optical guidance system using the IAI Tamam POP-200 electro-optical module and video transmission equipment that allows the operator to direct the device to the target. Structurally, Harop is a further development of the famous IAI Harpy UAV, equipped with a passive radar guidance system.
    At least these planes in fortified caponiers, WOULD be put.
    Armenians are mere foolish children, only ostentatious show-off. Sorry for them.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 10 October 2020 14: 20
      +5
      The fighters were not touched near the Russian military base.
      For this, they were transferred there - to hide from drone attacks.
      1. genisis
        genisis 10 October 2020 14: 42
        +1
        That is, drones will arrive in flocks directly to Erebuni airport - the main base airport of the Russian MIG-29, where the dryers were before the flight to Gyumri?
        Himself is not funny?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 10 October 2020 14: 44
          +3
          Su-30SM are the most modern aircraft. Therefore, they are especially cherished.
          1. genisis
            genisis 10 October 2020 15: 08
            0
            Once again, do you seriously think that Azerbaijan will hit Erebuni airport with a large number, or any number of drones, on which the Armenian SU-30s are based and on which the Russian MiG-29s are also based? You just wrote about this above. They say they flew to Gyumri so that they would not be attacked by drones. It turns out that where they stood before, and this is Erebuni, they could be attacked by drones.
            Once again, are you serious?
          2. Vasya Lozhkin
            Vasya Lozhkin 10 October 2020 23: 01
            0
            The Armenians will now pray for these 4 fighters, given the size of Armenia itself.
  • Oquzyurd
    Oquzyurd 10 October 2020 12: 15
    0
    Ilham Aliyev: "Armenia must come to terms with the fact that these territories belong to Azerbaijan"
    For a peaceful solution to the conflict, Baku and Yerevan will sit down at the negotiating table with the support of the OSCE Minsk Group. The Azerbaijani side is ready to do it "tomorrow". President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev said this in an interview with RBC. Part of the interview was published on the channel's website.

    “The military unit, or its first part, has come to an end. Now we have reached a political settlement that will ensure that we reach the end and get what is rightfully ours, ”he said.

    According to Ilham Aliyev, the main factor in the strength of the ceasefire regime will be that Armenia must come to terms with the fact that these territories belong to Azerbaijan.

    "That she (Armenia) will never see them again and will not make any attempts to fight it off by military means," Ilham Aliyev added.
    1. Guards turn
      Guards turn 10 October 2020 12: 29
      -5
      You can not write so much, but say directly that Azerbaijan is in collusion with Turkey against Russia.
      1. Andy
        Andy 10 October 2020 12: 38
        12
        one might think that Armenia is in alliance with us ... there are enough pictures with transporters "Russian invaders get out of Armenia". they just want to solve their problems at our expense and with our hands.
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 14: 56
          +4


          This must not be forgotten.
          1. Vasya Lozhkin
            Vasya Lozhkin 10 October 2020 22: 56
            -1
            Invaders of the South of Russia
        2. Guards turn
          Guards turn 10 October 2020 18: 39
          -1
          For Turkey, the blitz-shout that they expected did not happen, if the infantry is not motivated and is afraid to attack, the "bayraktars" will not be able to take these positions. Turkish militants could not push the Armenians through these proxies.
        3. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 11 October 2020 02: 10
          0
          Quote: Andy
          they just want to solve their problems at our expense and with our hands.

          and not only them ...
      2. Vasya Lozhkin
        Vasya Lozhkin 10 October 2020 22: 59
        +3
        Why is Azerbaijan against Russia? Banned the Russian language? Or opened American biological laboratories? Or participates in NATO programs? Banned TV Russia? Erected a monument to the fascist in the center of Baku? All this is happening in Armenia now, which they are trying to attach to Russia as friends
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 11 October 2020 02: 23
          +1
          Quote: Vasya Lozhkin
          All this is happening in Armenia now, which they are trying to attach to Russia as friends

          Yes, the Russian Federation now has little choice (thanks to its diplomatic corps), either about Turkish Azerbaijan or pro-American Armenia, the only difference is that the latter must still be protected from the former ... without receiving any political dividends from this ...
          Now, if the Russian Federation needs to sign an agreement on debt cancellation with whom, it's another matter, MGIMO graduates from "thieves" families will quickly cope with such a task ...
    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 12: 35
      +1
      Quote: Oquzyurd
      “The military unit, or its first part, has come to an end.


      I am translating into human language. Since our glorious blitzkrieg, our cosplay of the Buri in Azerbaijani style (despite the fact that the Armenian leadership played completely into the hands of Aliyev and made all conceivable and inconceivable mistakes, or even outright treason) did not work out on time, it was time to try to somehow solve question diplomatically.
      - which Aliyev will not achieve again, all the losses will be hanged on him and everything will be carried over again after a while, which depends solely on the degree of ammunition consumption, especially the WTO ...
      1. Buka001
        Buka001 10 October 2020 13: 07
        -1
        They won't hang anything on him, he is already a national hero in any scenario. The support of the population of Azerbaijan to the president has been maximum since the day of his rule. And the solidarity of the people around him is at a height. As for the failed blitzkrieg, it was quite a success.
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 13: 12
          +2
          Quote: Buka001
          he is already a national hero in any case. The support of the population of Azerbaijan to the president has been maximum since the day of his rule.

          Wait a moment, all your losses in personnel will surface, and it will be a lot of fun.

          As for the failed blitzkrieg, it was quite a success.

          It's funny. Do not write more ... They would look at the map or something ...
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 10 October 2020 13: 53
            0
            For the Armenians, they are many times more - in terms of artillery and air defense technology for sure. And there is nowhere to make up for this.
        2. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 10 October 2020 15: 42
          +3
          As for the failed blitzkrieg, it was quite a success.


          Here is your "success", with the poor and weakly armed Armenians, here's the map, look for success:


          Source: Colonel Cassad
        3. nobody75
          nobody75 10 October 2020 18: 33
          -2
          If you are happy, then I am glad too. So you can play with you further ...
          "A bush burns from one spark. One hack can ruin everyone" - Abul-Ala al-Maarri.
          Don't be offended, it's me about myself ...
          It is noteworthy that out of the three leaders - Aliyev, Putin and Erdogan - only one Muslim was found ... Only one of them thought about burying the dead in a human manner.
          "There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet." Do you consider the author of the first and second "Tempest" a prophet?
          The Turks, for example, believe ... However, they were brainwashed in NATO and I don't want to know what will happen to these "young wolves" in the near future. Although it's not difficult to guess ...
          “When they meet those who have believed, they say:“ We have believed ”... When they are alone with their shaitans, they say:“ Undoubtedly, we are together. We only mock them. ”As Vladimir Vladimirovich likes to say:“ Well now. ”“ Let the end be happy, not the beginning. ”You are right, I don’t wish you peace anymore - since you don’t need it. Health to you. say the natives of Sicily: "The main thing is to live long."
          Sincerely
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 10 October 2020 12: 20
    +2
    Drying must be kept in caponiers.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 10 October 2020 16: 43
      0
      Quote: Pavel57
      Drying must be kept in caponiers.

      only if in anti-nuclear, the rest is not a guarantee ...
      1. Maximilian37
        Maximilian37 12 October 2020 12: 35
        0
        That is, do you assume that Turkey or Azerbaijan have nuclear weapons and will use them against Armenia? The asylum drove out after you, do not lock the door.
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 12 October 2020 18: 13
          0
          Quote: Maximilian37
          That is, do you assume that Turkey or Azerbaijan have nuclear weapons and will use them against Armenia? The asylum drove out after you, do not lock the door.

          I am not offended by the poor and if not in the subject better keep quiet, now penetrating bombs have a penetration capacity of at least 1 meter of reinforced concrete floors, and existing caponiers are not able to provide protection for equipment ...
  • Oquzyurd
    Oquzyurd 10 October 2020 12: 23
    +1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PihOm3NFb0I&feature=emb_logo
    At the disposal of the Avia.pro news agency were video frames that were made the day before by the Armenian military and testifying to the strikes against Azerbaijan from the territory of Armenia.

    According to the source, Armenia from its territory used tactical missile systems R-17 "Elbrus" against Azerbaijan, hitting with ballistic missiles.
    ................................................... ................................................... ............................
    Interesting comment under the video asking a hundred times, Delete)

    John Grigoryan
    11 hours ago
    remove


    John Grigoryan
    11 hours ago
    remove
    .
    .
    ....
    They expose themselves, and you will have to answer for everything.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 12: 40
      0
      What does SM Satamax 2016 mean?
      Not visible when the video is shot.
    2. Dimon71
      Dimon71 10 October 2020 13: 12
      +1
      We have already seen a video from the Az MO where Armenia allegedly launches Tochka. The voice-over pleases - LET'S GIVE VANO GENA! AND VALP !!!!
  • donavi49
    donavi49 10 October 2020 12: 41
    +2
    We posted a video from the Harop, how they filled up a 3 coordinate radar (possibly ST-68) and PU S300.
    Standing in cover

    Radar, the calculation heard the thing of the 21st century gave the fight probably even survived
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 12: 51
      0
      Well, I see the shooting of the three hundred positions, I don't see the defeat ... Has it been confirmed already?
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 10 October 2020 12: 54
        +7
        Well, this is Harop - in the last seconds the signal is cut off, or do you think he will make a maneuver there or his dog will knock him down with a stick?

        It works like this - only in the last 1,5-2 seconds there is no signal to the remote control in those conditions.

        Here are other videos:




        And this is how it feels on earth
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 13: 21
          -5
          Quote: donavi49
          Or do you think he will make a maneuver there or his dog will knock him down with a stick?

          Anything. From miss, to the fuse did not work ... And by the way, it looks more like shooting a mini-drone scout. Where did you get that this is Harop? Funny bullshit though ... how many BBs are there by the way?

          In principle, we will take a look - https://lostarmour.info/karabakh/
        2. Bashkirkhan
          Bashkirkhan 10 October 2020 16: 26
          +1
          Quote: donavi49
          Will his dog knock him down with a stick?

          By the way, Sobaken died at the post as a soldier. The 36D6M radar or its analogs are not included in the S-300, as far as I remember.
      2. donavi49
        donavi49 10 October 2020 13: 02
        +3
        Well, today they broke through there, like a truce, and posted content like a couple of days of war.

        Infantry strikes


        Destruction of an SPG battery (like Carnation, well, or Acacia) with detonation of ammunition for some


        Strikes on tanks, at the first the crew tried to jump in time and leave, but did not have time.


        Shooting at positions of artillery, some guns in mask nets, this does not help.


        The shooting of engineering equipment and BMP / MTLB in exemplary camouflage - I am a mound overgrown with grass.
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 10 October 2020 18: 12
          0
          Quote: donavi49
          like a truce, but posted content like a couple of days of war.

          so it seems like the foreign ministers were there, and not the Supreme Command of the participating countries ...
      3. Dimon71
        Dimon71 10 October 2020 13: 14
        +1
        Believe me. If C 300 were filled up, then the whole world was already printing satellite images of Russian weapons smashed into rubbish three hundred and obseralba !!!
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 10 October 2020 13: 21
          +4
          We haven't done it yet. We have already tied the place by the way, this is Armenia.

          1. genisis
            genisis 10 October 2020 13: 46
            +1
            It's strange. How is the binding done?
            It's just that this is the screenshot of the video on the YouTube channel from which you insert it.

            I'm not sure that Gubadli and your place are one and the same place.
        2. PSih2097
          PSih2097 10 October 2020 18: 19
          0
          Quote: Dimon71
          if we had filled up the C 300

          there the stationary S-300 (PS / PM) is practically the same age as the collapse of the USSR, if only the S-300V ...
      4. Garris199
        Garris199 10 October 2020 13: 34
        +5
        PU not in combat position. Why do they need air defense at all if they don't use it?
      5. serzh.kost
        serzh.kost 10 October 2020 14: 29
        +2
        there most likely not the S-300, but the Ukrainian radar 19Ж6
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 10 October 2020 13: 18
    0
    Quote: Cyril G ...
    Well, I see the shooting of the three hundred positions, I don't see the defeat ... Has it been confirmed already?

    hmm ... This is a video from a rocket. The last seconds are not visible, because time is wasted on coding, and the rocket exploded. That is, there is no one to send. Or do you think the rocket was able to dodge in the last second)))
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 13: 31
      +2
      Quote: imobile2008
      This is a video from a rocket.

      What makes it a rocket? There are no convergence dynamics for half a minute of shooting. And "convergence" may well be a change in the focus of the shooting.
      1. genisis
        genisis 10 October 2020 14: 47
        -1
        It doesn't follow from anything. From Azerbaijani hobby. In other videos, the picture disappears half a meter from the target, the convergence is clearly of ammunition. Here there is a focus hitting, imitating the approach. After reaching the maximum, the video is simply turned off.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 10 October 2020 14: 34
      -2
      It was not a rocket that arrived, but Santa Claus with gifts - candy canes. laughing
      Your opponent is a bit slow-witted. But it gradually gets better smile
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 14: 57
        0
        Well, you're just a clown ...
  • Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 14: 04
    -1
    Quote: Vadim237
    For the Armenians they are many times larger

    This is fortune telling on the coffee grounds. So far the Armenians have declared their losses and Baku is silent. And tanks, in the end, are profitable ...

    By the way, 7 Armenian tanks were confirmed on Lostarmor
    1. Gosha Smirnov
      Gosha Smirnov 10 October 2020 14: 41
      -3
      You are, 12 only taken prisoner and this has been proven. The border wars of the armies are clearly coughing. Real breakouts will begin with the Azeris when they climb the mountains. Then their obvious advantages and end
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 10 October 2020 16: 14
        +1
        And they don't need to climb there and they just will bypass them to the east and west and fire from the art of OTRK and drones until all the troops of NKR and Armenia are there. When you do not have air defense and the enemy has complete air superiority, you have a cover even on the plains even in the mountains.
    2. Vasya Lozhkin
      Vasya Lozhkin 10 October 2020 22: 54
      +1
      What Lostarmore? In the south, only 12 T-72 Azeri tanks were captured intact, and destroyed even before the heap.
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 23: 26
        +1
        You can say anything. You don't have to believe everything ...
        Learn here - https://lostarmour.info/karabakh/
  • Egor53
    Egor53 10 October 2020 14: 06
    +5
    Our Russian media actively support Armenia in this conflict.
    In vain they do it. Lying is always bad.
    From my Russian point of view, you need to look at how many Russians live in these 2 conflicting countries, and how many Russian schools there are. And you need to support the country in which Russians and Russian culture are less oppressed. This comparison is clearly not in favor of Armenia.
    And stop lying that the Armenians are Christians. They are the same Christians as Baptists and Jehovah's Witnesses.
    And about the genocide of 1915, too, it would be time to limit conversations, or tell the whole truth - who was there and who cut. And the Armenians also took part in this massacre, although much less than the Turks.
    In 1992-1994, the Armenians expelled more than 7 million Azerbaijanis from the 1 occupied regions of Azerbaijan. And all non-Armenians were expelled from Armenia itself.
    1. serzh.kost
      serzh.kost 10 October 2020 14: 34
      +5
      but it was not necessary to lie down under the Turks ...
      And as for the Armenian soros, so in Russia there are soros in power, and among the people and soros, bulk, furgalats and all other rabble are full.
    2. genisis
      genisis 10 October 2020 14: 39
      +1
      And stop lying that the Armenians are Christians. They are the same Christians as Baptists and Jehovah's Witnesses.

      So Christians are those who believe that Christ is the Son of God.
      Do you have any other interpretation, or are you just blasting all sorts of nonsense about Armenians, maybe something will work?
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 14: 48
        +1
        The Apostolic Armenian Church is still Monophysites, the oldest religious movement in Christianity.
        1. genisis
          genisis 10 October 2020 15: 02
          0
          We will not go deeper, but the Armenians are Miaphysites, not Monophysites. However, the character above categorically argued that Armenians are not Christians at all.
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 21: 40
            +1
            Of course not, Armenians are naturally Christians. And even more foolishness to compare them with Baptists and others
        2. Vasya Lozhkin
          Vasya Lozhkin 10 October 2020 22: 51
          0
          What's apostolic?
    3. Buka001
      Buka001 10 October 2020 21: 03
      0
      And in Azerbaijan the knowledge of the Great and Mighty is considered very prestigious. Each parent tries to arrange his child in completely Russian or at least in Az. Sector with a Russian bias. About Baku in general I am silent, Russian is my native language. Those who do not know Russian well are considered backward. And they are treated condescendingly like guest workers. One thing is not clear !!! Why p
      Russians are so little informed about this !? Why are the screams and whining of mono-ethnicists everywhere heard and receive sympathy, while Azerbaijan is always forced to defend itself as the injured party ?! Why Armenia, which is parasitized on Russia and betrays the "Friend" of Russia at the first opportunity, and Azerbaijan, which was divided, which sheltered these Armenians, gave Tabriz and Derbent. And Yerevan For more than a century it gives oil, more than 600 soldiers milking the Second World War, at the expense of the oil of the Second World War won.
      Delivers vegetables, fruits, greens, flowers, turns out to be "Foe" ??? !!!
      What else needs to be done to understand who is who
    4. Maximilian37
      Maximilian37 12 October 2020 12: 46
      0
      Where did Yegor come from? Can you tell a lot about the Russians? Usually they say: "Our Russian media actively support Armenia .............. So you were killed as a spy ...
  • Gosha Smirnov
    Gosha Smirnov 10 October 2020 14: 38
    -2
    This flying old stuff is unlikely to help. And in such a meager amount.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 10 October 2020 15: 10
    -2
    Quote: genisis
    It doesn't follow from anything. From Azerbaijani hobby. In other videos, the picture disappears half a meter from the target, the convergence is clearly of ammunition. Here there is a focus hitting, imitating the approach. After reaching the maximum, the video is simply turned off.

    Even if it was just a drone, the approach and observation of such an object ended in failure. then they would simply cover it with art. No arguments are accepted, this is for grannies or ren tv
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 15: 43
      +1
      Quote: imobile2008
      No arguments are accepted,


      And what do you actually mean to accept or not accept arguments after enchanting outpourings on the topic of radar?
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 10 October 2020 15: 57
    +1
    Quote: Cyril G ...
    Quote: imobile2008
    No arguments are accepted,


    And what do you actually mean to accept or not accept arguments after enchanting outpourings on the topic of radar?

    Why don't you like my outpouring? so that plastic does not reflect radio waves? So Azerbaijan has already confirmed my words empirically.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 17: 34
      +1
      Quote: imobile2008
      so that plastic does not reflect radio waves?


      You have blurted out a lot of other things. The Armenians, by the way, also confirmed it empirically - yesterday I saw a video shot from the TV camera of the Osa air defense system, where the defeat of the 9 kilogram Orbiter was filmed by the launch of the 9M33 missile defense system
  • Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 16: 48
    0
    Quote: Buka001
    They won't hang anything on him, he is already a national hero in any scenario. The support of the population of Azerbaijan to the president has been maximum since the day of his rule. And the solidarity of the people around him is at a height. As for the failed blitzkrieg, it was quite a success.

    Not a fact, quite the contrary.
    If this truce ends up being dumped like a little one, then he will be thrown off like a little one. The people who, in one impulse, went to war, gave up their children, accompanied their husbands, brothers and sons with songs, made so many sacrifices, this time they will not forgive misfires.
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 10 October 2020 18: 51
      0
      What are you hinting at? Can a professional diplomat be "thrown like a little"? Or do you want to say that the Great Baku Gambler (a person who does not upload staff cards to the Internet) is the Archtraitor for whom Rostov is crying?
      I do not believe!!!
      Sincerely
  • Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 19: 07
    -1
    Quote: nobody75
    What are you hinting at? Can a professional diplomat be "thrown like a little"? Or do you want to say that the Great Baku Gambler (a person who does not upload staff cards to the Internet) is the Archtraitor for whom Rostov is crying?
    I do not believe!!!
    Sincerely

    I am not hinting at anything, but only stating the fact that for Ilgam Aliyev the stakes are very high, and he took a VERY big risk deciding to respect Russia and Vladimir Vladimirovich, going forward and signing a humanitarian truce and ceasefire, which Armenia has already violated by using and spitting on Russia, see my latest posts in this thread:
    https://topwar.ru/175961-baku-i-erevan-obvinili-drug-druga-v-grubom-narushenii-objavlennogo-peremirija.html#comment-id-10857234
    instead of collecting and receiving their dead, they began to deploy and deploy new forces. True, deciding that the most cunningly invented forgotten and again got in the trunk, putting everything as targets in the shooting range. They say, in their opinion, Russia is only for Azerbaijan, but they put everything on everything ... Look on the channel of the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry, how much equipment they transferred to the "humanitarian truce" and how much Azerbaijan had to destroy, and I will repeat this instead of collecting the bodies of the dead and WITHDRAWAL of the occupying troops from the territory of Azerbaijan.
    The authority of Russia as a state capable of being an arbiter in negotiations with Armenia has finally been undermined. And I repeat, Ilham Aliyev took a very risk going to meet Vladimir Putin that Putin is standing and we saw his word for Armenia - ZERO.
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 10 October 2020 19: 19
      0
      From your words, I understand that the humanitarian truce is most necessary for Putin. There Russian Soldiers lie ...
      I also understood that the Armenians are to blame for the failure of your Storm. Totally agree with you. First, the partner interferes with a bad dancer, and then ... Is this a big risk for Aliyev?
      "They try to deceive Allah and the believers, but they only deceive themselves and do not realize it."
      Sincerely
  • iouris
    iouris 10 October 2020 19: 36
    -1
    Unclear. Not enough range?
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 10 October 2020 19: 41
      0
      Enough ... Can I write later ...
      "Mischief managed"
      Sincerely
  • Vasya Lozhkin
    Vasya Lozhkin 10 October 2020 22: 49
    0
    The Armenians will ditch the fighter, and then Pasha Telefonian will start yelling: “The Turks have shot down! Russia help.” As the Su-25 crashed 10 days ago, the Armenians screamed. The Turkish F-16 shot down! A guard! The Turks are beating Christians! and the CSTO?
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 11 October 2020 01: 47
    0
    a satellite photo of two fighters of the Armenian Air Force appeared at the Shirak airfield in Gyumri

    According to VIKI, Shirak is the main base airfield for all combat and training aviation of the Armenian Air Force ...
    before the Su-30SM was received, fighter aircraft did not exist in the Armenian Air Force due to the lack of fighters. Only Su-25 attack aircraft were in service with the country's Air Force

    Not at all. One MiG-25 got from the Soviet Armenian Air Force (it is still part of the Armenian Air Force) ...
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 12 October 2020 09: 20
    0
    It is vital for Yerevan to drag Russia into the conflict. For this, the Armenians will go to any provocations against Turkey in order to make it a participant. They will shoot down a Turkish plane, maybe more than one.