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Lavrov achieved a ceasefire between Baku and Yerevan

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Armenia and Azerbaijan, after lengthy negotiations, agreed on a ceasefire in Nagorno-Karabakh. The agreement comes into effect from 12:00 on October 10, 2020. This was announced by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.


The 10-hour talks in Moscow, in which the Ministers of Foreign Affairs of Russia, Armenia and Azerbaijan Sergey Lavrov, Zohrab Mnatsakanyan and Jeyhun Bayramov, took part on the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh, which were held in a completely closed format, ended with an agreement on a ceasefire in Karabakh for humanitarian purposes. The specific parameters of the ceasefire will be agreed upon additionally. In addition, the parties agreed to start negotiations with the aim of achieving a peaceful settlement of the situation.

In response to the appeal of the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin and in accordance with the agreements of the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, the President of the Republic of Azerbaijan (Ilham) Aliyev and the Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia (Nikola) Pashinyan, the parties agreed on the following steps. First: a humanitarian ceasefire announced from 12:00 on 10 October 2020 for the exchange of prisoners of war and other detainees and bodies of the dead, mediated by the ICRC

- said Lavrov.

Meanwhile, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev said it was premature to discuss the introduction of peacekeepers into the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh. According to him, the parties have not yet reached the discussion of this item, first, the main issues must be resolved - to liberate the "occupied" territories, return the Azerbaijanis there, and then bring in peacekeepers.

Peacekeepers are one of the points of the basic principles developed by the Minsk Group (OSCE) to resolve the conflict. However, we have not yet reached this point to discuss it, it is still early. This is within the framework of the agreements. If both sides agree to this, they will choose the peacekeepers. So we don't mind. But today we are not in the active phase of negotiations on this item.

- Aliyev said.

According to media reports, the night in the unrecognized republic of Nagorno-Karabakh passed calmly against the background of the agreements reached. In Stepanakert, for the first time since the beginning of hostilities, the air raid siren did not sound, and the explosions of falling shells were not heard. However, due to fears of a drone strike, the city was practically in complete darkness.
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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc 10 October 2020 07: 43
    18
    An almost incredible event.
    We hope ...
    Although without bringing in peacekeepers, the duration of the truce is questionable.
    Further negotiations will be very difficult.
    The question is whether Aliyev is ready to discuss the division of territories or will insist on the complete withdrawal of Armenian formations from Karabakh.
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 10 October 2020 07: 48
      +7
      So far, only a ceasefire ...
      And then it will be seen.
      1. hrych
        hrych 10 October 2020 09: 46
        -1
        Quote: Victor_B
        And then it will be seen.

        In principle, everything is already visible. In this truce, the real state of affairs at the front, and not how the merciless Azeri prop and the senseless Armenprop trumpeted wassat In fact, both sides are lousy. These walks along the foothills back and forth, like in a shooting range among Azerbaijanis and these drone strikes, like in a shooting range among Armenians. The mountains of enemy corpses and the captured equipment are mainly published by the Armenian side, and at the end, the captured equipment with single corpses appeared from the Azerbaijani side. And of course, Azerprop flashed with stamps and masks, and the top of the creation was a joyful greeting by an Armenian fat-cheeked barmaley wassat From impotence, blows at peaceful Stepanakert, etc. Everything here is clear and understandable. The comments of Yuri Podolyaka are especially funny. They are very good and competent, but the battle for the ruins of the unfortunate Dzhabrail gathered up to 25 thousand fighters, it looks simply ridiculous, Petrosyan and Galustyan are in the same brandy. Macedonian with such an army conquered the Empire from Egypt to India wassat And here Dzhabrail is being divided and after all, they have not stupidly reached the mountains ...
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 10 October 2020 07: 48
      +9
      The agreement comes into force from 12:00 on November 10, 2020.
      And what will the Great and bloodthirsty Sultan say? Go will shit.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 10 October 2020 08: 00
        -4
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        And what will the Great and bloodthirsty Sultan say? Go will shit.

        So already! He planted Syrian mercenaries there who disagree with the Azerbaijanis in faith !!! Aliyev needs to think about how to push these allies back, they have already started slaughtering Azerbaijanis.
        1. icant007
          icant007 10 October 2020 08: 04
          +7
          Quote: Egoza
          they have already started slaughtering Azerbaijanis.

          Where does this information come from?
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 10 October 2020 08: 24
            -9
            Quote: icant007
            Where does this information come from?

            https://rusvesna.su/news/1602250133
            Inhumans: assassins from Syria came to punish Armenians, but took on Azerbaijanis (PHOTOS)
            1. icant007
              icant007 10 October 2020 08: 32
              +5
              Quote: Egoza
              Inhumans: assassins from Syria came to punish Armenians, but took on Azerbaijanis (PHOTOS)

              Forgive me, but where is it written about "cutting Azerbaijanis"?
            2. Piramidon
              Piramidon 10 October 2020 10: 21
              -3
              Quote: Egoza
              https://rusvesna.su/news/1602250133
              Inhumans: assassins from Syria came to punish Armenians, but took on Azerbaijanis

              Elena, have you read this article yourself? There it is written in Russian in white that the barmaley terrorize the local population, and it is 99% ARMENIANS. The fact that they allegedly "began to slaughter Azerbaijanis" is your speculation. hi
              1. Misha Honest
                Misha Honest 10 October 2020 17: 44
                -2
                Quote: Piramidon
                Quote: Egoza
                https://rusvesna.su/news/1602250133
                Inhumans: assassins from Syria came to punish Armenians, but took on Azerbaijanis

                Elena, have you read this article yourself? There it is written in Russian in white that the barmaley terrorize the local population, and it is 99% ARMENIANS. The fact that they allegedly "began to slaughter Azerbaijanis" is your speculation. hi

                Azerbaijanis are Shiites. The visitors are Sunnis. For the Sunnis, Shiites are fucking heresy. Do you need to explain 2 + 2 ?! lol
                1. Piramidon
                  Piramidon 10 October 2020 19: 51
                  -3
                  Quote: Misha Honest
                  Azerbaijanis are Shiites. The visitors are Sunnis. For the Sunnis, Shiites are fucking heresy. Do you need to explain 2 + 2 ?!

                  What are you talking about? I don't seem to be concerned with religion. I just asked Elena where exactly in the article to which she gave a link, it was written about the massacre of Azerbaijanis. And you tell me about some kind of arithmetic.
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent 10 October 2020 08: 05
          -1
          Quote: Egoza
          So already! He planted Syrian mercenaries there who disagree with the Azerbaijanis in faith !!! Aliyev needs to think about how to push these allies back, they have already started slaughtering Azerbaijanis.


          And what is this "highly educated diplomat"thought before, launching a snake into the house?
          1. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 10 October 2020 08: 18
            -1
            Not tired of lying?
        3. Buka001
          Buka001 10 October 2020 08: 17
          -11 qualifying.
          Don't spread this nonsense. They do not need mercenaries from Syria.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 10 October 2020 11: 43
            +8
            Quote: Buka001
            Don't spread this nonsense. They do not need mercenaries from Syria.

            It is difficult to reproach the Russian media for bias and dissemination of false information, if only on the grounds that information about the sending of Syrian militants to Azerbaijan is confirmed in the USA, France, Canada and the UK. Canada on this basis stopped supplying to Turkey components used in the production of UAVs, including Bayraktarov, who are actively working on Karabakh.
        4. Senka naughty
          Senka naughty 10 October 2020 08: 28
          +6
          Quote: Egoza
          they have already started slaughtering Azerbaijanis.

          I beg your pardon, but is there any confirmation of this? I seem to be missing something. Or maybe there is confirmation that the mercenaries are there?

          But I've seen enough fakes. In the first comment, everything is rolled out.
          1. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 10 October 2020 08: 41
            -2
            Everything is in Azerbaijani. On the side of the road, people greet and see off their fellow countrymen and children. For almost half a month this video has been played from time to time. Is there nothing else?
            1. Keyser soze
              Keyser soze 10 October 2020 09: 20
              +7
              Is there nothing else?


              There is a statement by Naryshkin, Macron, the Pentagon. There is a video of confirmation from Karabakh, geo-referencing and something else. Wait a little more and there will be actions, and if the West slams your ridiculous economy, the Russians will simply bomb the barmaley into zero.

              Your only chance is to look Lavrov in the eye and listen to him very carefully. Well, it's very straightforward because your blitzkrieg is exhausted and tired of everyone.
              1. uranium
                uranium 10 October 2020 09: 53
                +1
                Well, about the evidence, this one reminds me of the main thing to brainwash the public
              2. Misha Honest
                Misha Honest 10 October 2020 17: 56
                +1
                Quote: Keyser Soze
                Is there nothing else?


                There is a statement by Naryshkin, Macron, the Pentagon. There is a video of confirmation from Karabakh, geo-referencing and something else. Wait a little more and there will be actions, and if the West slams your ridiculous economy, the Russians will simply bomb the barmaley into zero.

                Your only chance is to look Lavrov in the eye and listen to him very carefully. Well, it's very straightforward because your blitzkrieg is exhausted and tired of everyone.

                Good luck to your brother from Bulgaria! He is clearly wiser than most in this forum. wink
            2. Pashhenko Nikolay
              Pashhenko Nikolay 10 October 2020 09: 48
              +3
              Why don't you tell me left-hand traffic?
              1. Oquzyurd
                Oquzyurd 10 October 2020 10: 08
                -2
                Semki in Australia)) Seriously, this is Azerbaijan, the voices, the shouts are all in the Azerbaijani language. These are either the technical nuances of the seed or the installation that the cars are on the left.
                1. Pashhenko Nikolay
                  Pashhenko Nikolay 10 October 2020 10: 24
                  +2
                  There, at the end of the video, there is an arrow to the meeting on the right lane. Yes, and barmaley on pickups in Karabakh will immediately get on the video. You will not disown later, as they say.
                2. Pashhenko Nikolay
                  Pashhenko Nikolay 10 October 2020 10: 26
                  0
                  Azerbaijanis seem to have not gotten into pickups yet?
                  1. Oquzyurd
                    Oquzyurd 10 October 2020 10: 36
                    -2
                    There are pick-ups, even a lot. Apart from the military, all civilian pick-ups were taken on reserve, just in case. Sometimes such gifts are made to the Armed Forces.
                    https://az.sputniknews.ru/azerbaijan/20201002/425095847/avtomobilnaja-federacija-peredacha-armii-azerbaijan.html Нет этих ближневосточных отморозков в Азербайджане.Если были бы,давно и много раз были бы на кадрах.И,они Азербайджану не нужны,от слова-СОВСЕМ.
                    1. Xnumx vis
                      Xnumx vis 10 October 2020 14: 53
                      0
                      Quote: Oquzyurd
                      There are no these Middle Eastern scumbags in Azerbaijan. If they were, they would have been on the staff for a long time and many times. And, Azerbaijan does not need them, from the word ALL.

                      Wai! Dear! It's not nice to deceive adults ... Not in the market. You don't sell persimmon. There are no bazaar roboters here .. People have seen life ... People know! hi bully
                      1. Misha Honest
                        Misha Honest 10 October 2020 18: 01
                        -1
                        Quote: 30 vis
                        Quote: Oquzyurd
                        There are no these Middle Eastern scumbags in Azerbaijan. If they were, they would have been on the staff for a long time and many times. And, Azerbaijan does not need them, from the word ALL.

                        Wai! Dear! It's not nice to deceive adults ... Not in the market. You don't sell persimmon. There are no bazaar roboters here .. People have seen life ... People know! hi bully

                        Yes, after the current graduates of the FSB, there really is O.P.A. )
                      2. Xnumx vis
                        Xnumx vis 10 October 2020 21: 07
                        +1
                        Quote: Misha Honest
                        Yes, after the current graduates of the FSB, there really is O.P.A. )

                        There are enough abnormal in any team. FSB in full view .. You know, when I was deputy. company sergeant (conscript sergeant) The deputy company commander for political work pushed a drunk man into the closet, wet himself and dusted off. And, even worse, he collected money from young soldiers for allegedly all kinds of toothpaste, filing material. And then he successfully drank them off. They served in Czechoslovakia, the conscripts did not have transfers from their relatives .. But this does not mean that the whole Communist Party was like this, a representative of the party. And therefore it is not worth generalizing.
            3. Piramidon
              Piramidon 10 October 2020 11: 44
              -1
              Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
              Why don't you tell me left-hand traffic?

              If you rotate the picture 180 degrees horizontally in the video editor (mirror image), then from the right-hand movement we get the left-hand one. There may be a jamb when editing and editing, they were in a hurry to lay out. request
            4. Misha Honest
              Misha Honest 10 October 2020 17: 58
              0
              Influence of the British.
        5. Pashhenko Nikolay
          Pashhenko Nikolay 10 October 2020 09: 47
          0
          Yes. There is clearly not left-hand traffic in Azerbaijan.
      2. kotdavin4i
        kotdavin4i 10 October 2020 09: 14
        -2
        Quote: Egoza
        they have already started slaughtering Azerbaijanis.

        Elena, you have been on this site for many years, to be honest, I thought that the "old people", unless, of course, are stubborn in nationalism, they are more adequately able to respond to fake news.
        Having a prepared, trained, well-equipped and, most importantly, a motivated army, it makes no sense for Azerbaijan to bring in a crowd of inadequate ones that cannot be controlled. The entire system of command and control of troops is simply collapsing, and judging by the fact that it is Azerbaijan that is still successfully advancing, everything is fine with the troops.
        So - do not believe everything that is written on the "fence" ....
        And ask yourself a question - if the militants were brought in as "cannon fodder" then why then the army is fighting while they are in the rear in the villages? They would simply be blocked by detachments - not allowing them to go to the rear.
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 10 October 2020 09: 55
          0
          Quote: kotdavin4i
          Having a prepared, trained, well-equipped and, most importantly, a motivated army, it makes no sense for Azerbaijan to bring in a crowd of inadequate ones that cannot be controlled.

          ===
          yah. and who will perform the role of punishers or cannon fodder in direct combat, if the need arises?
          and second, information about the mercenaries came from various sources. at least about recruiting, sending. we will wait for information about the direct participation of the militants, if there is such a thing, aliyev may send them back.
          1. kotdavin4i
            kotdavin4i 10 October 2020 12: 27
            0
            Quote: Victorio
            in direct combat,

            So direct clashes have been going on for 14 days. Or do you think that Azerbaijan works only with drones? Then who liberates the territory? Or are the Armenians just running and leaving everything? Then where is their "Spirit"?
            about the punishers - stupidity. What for? to kill Armenians? so there are more than 40 thousand of them in Azerbaijan - and all the citizens of Azerbaijan ...
            1. Victorio
              Victorio 12 October 2020 09: 32
              0
              Quote: kotdavin4i
              Does Azerbaijan only work with drones? Then who liberates the territory?

              ===
              was not, but I think so. plus shelling. with losses, the Armenians are forced to withdraw, the positions are taken by the Azerbaijanis. possibly also bypass movements of Azerbaijanis.
          2. Misha Honest
            Misha Honest 10 October 2020 18: 05
            -2
            Quote: Victorio
            perhaps Aliyev will send them back.

            laughing Naive Chukchi girl. Who will allow Aliyev to do this ?!
        2. rotkiv04
          rotkiv04 10 October 2020 11: 20
          +2
          Well, he made fun of the army, this rabble is the same as rodents in 2008, also a fan's tail, pants sail, they just did not collide with a normal army
          1. kotdavin4i
            kotdavin4i 10 October 2020 12: 21
            -3
            Quote: rotkiv04
            they just did not face a normal army

            Well, if you think so ... then I will give an example of the first Chechen war - then the Russian Defense Minister also put in a lot of Russian soldiers and officers. And they fought not with the army - but with the bandits ...
            You should never humiliate a soldier. at least not for you a civilian ...
            1. rotkiv04
              rotkiv04 10 October 2020 15: 01
              +3
              but you seem to have not learned to read what is written, I wrote with a normal army, during the time of the Chechen company the army was abnormal, and even more so the minister was a rook, Eltsin's drinking companion. , so this is too honorable a definition for this brutal soldier, this is a gang
              1. kotdavin4i
                kotdavin4i 10 October 2020 16: 18
                -4
                Quote: rotkiv04
                you don't seem to have learned

                For a start, don't poke me - the poke hasn't grown. If there is not enough education to communicate culturally, it is better to be silent.
                further about the civilian population - and the fact that Armenia is working with art and MLRS in the settlements of Azerbaijan and among the killed 7-9 year old children is that like? Or are Armenians for you people and Azerbaijanis not?
                several times there were attempts by OTRK Scud-b to shoot at Baku and Mingachevir. What's this?
                1. rotkiv04
                  rotkiv04 10 October 2020 17: 52
                  +1
                  sick, it’s my business to poke or not, you’ll shut your wife’s mouth, and about the victims of children from the Azeri side, facts are on the table, although there will be no facts, there will be snot and fairy tales
                  1. kotdavin4i
                    kotdavin4i 10 October 2020 18: 10
                    0
                    Quote: rotkiv04
                    there will be snot and fairy tales


                    On September 27, as a result of an artillery shell hit in the house, a family died - 5 people, two children


                    and you continue to persist - "healthy" ...
        3. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 10 October 2020 18: 03
          -1
          Congratulations - you are absolutely inadequate in politics! wassat
    3. iouris
      iouris 10 October 2020 15: 39
      -1
      Sutan simply solves problems and achieves the set goals. It seems that he is the most adequate of all the actors. Although Lavrov is considered an Armenian by the Armenians, it seems that he does not understand anything in the Caucasus, since he spent his best years in the United States. Things are going badly, but from the outside it looks good.
  2. Insurgent
    Insurgent 10 October 2020 08: 03
    +1
    Quote: Livonetc
    An almost incredible event.


    Video with Lavrov.

  3. nnm
    nnm 10 October 2020 08: 07
    11
    Again, Russia ruined everything in the games of the Sultan and the West! Yes, declaring an armistice does not stop the bloodshed, but it is a huge step towards peace. But even yesterday, no one could have thought about this result. I sincerely wish both sides a mutual understanding and, albeit a long and difficult one, the path to peace.
    1. sustav75
      sustav75 10 October 2020 12: 14
      -2
      New swamp! New "Minsk agreements"! Let the Armenians and Azerbaijanis figure out who is the boss in the house !!!
      1. codetalker
        codetalker 10 October 2020 12: 40
        +3
        What does it mean to understand? Let them interrupt each other? Not before you go to the front.
  4. Oquzyurd
    Oquzyurd 10 October 2020 08: 16
    -5
    Full conclusion. Otherwise, everything will start. Yesterday, in Aliyev's address to the people, this point was separately emphasized, adding that this is the last chance for Armenia. If they deceive and delay time, we will go to the end.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 10 October 2020 08: 53
      10
      His appeal to Pashinyan is generally harsh. “Go to whoever you want, kiss the heels, whoever you want” ... the impression is that there is, in addition to the national, some kind of personal insult, moreover, from an educated person, and Aliyev is educated and positive, I did not expect this
      1. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 10 October 2020 09: 32
        +1
        This is a sign that Pashik will leave, he will never meet with him. Aliyev said so for a reason.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 10 October 2020 09: 37
          +4
          This is a sign that he does not want and will not meet with him. Whether or not it leaves is the business of the Armenian people.
          1. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 10 October 2020 09: 50
            +3
            "Whether or not it leaves is the business of the Armenian people." Not already. Pashinyan lost, soon everyone will be convinced of this, the Armenian people too. After that, will he hold out? Just a month ago he convinced everyone that not only Karabakh, but everything that was captured, this is the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, but Nagorno-Karabakh, this is Armenia, period. Now, he will return 7 regions, and the fate of Karabakh will be decided within the framework of the integrity of Azerbaijan. what Azerbaijan has been proposing since 1994. Armenian sick nationalism, accompanied by the maximalism of "miatsum", brought them to these days. And Pashinyan brought everything to the maximum absurdity, and in the end .... He will leave, if whole, then this is his success ...
      2. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 10 October 2020 09: 32
        +1
        Aliev people are educated and positive,


        Actually, Hitler was a well-educated person, smiling and, in addition, a good artist. Straightforward example of positivism. He would have liked the idea of ​​zanocidizing an entire area and cleaning it.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 10 October 2020 09: 46
          +7
          Perfectly educated lol Where did he not go, remind me, pliz?
          Aliyev did not say that he would drive out the Armenians living in Karabakh. According to official Baku, they will become equal citizens of Azerbaijan, no one will make problems for them hi
          Aliyev, a former KVN-scholar, is positive.
          He has excellent English and literate Russian. Representative of the Soviet Baku intelligentsia.
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 10 October 2020 09: 51
            +4
            According to official Baku, they will become equal citizens of Azerbaijan, no one will make problems for them


            Do you seriously believe in it ?! That is why they bomb Stepanakert into the ground to drive out all the Armenians. And they dragged the barmaley in order to clean up the giaours with someone else's hands.
            Do not tell my slippers - the Armenians know this and will fight to the last.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 10 October 2020 10: 08
              +2
              There, both sides are showing signs of peace - the intensity of age-old ethnic enmity. That the Armenians will fight to the last is understandable. As well as Azerbaijanis to squeeze them.
              1. Oquzyurd
                Oquzyurd 10 October 2020 10: 52
                -7
                In occupied Nagorno-Karabakh, there are Kurdish militants: and they are the ones who guard the Lachin corridor. As reported by Minval.az, the editor-in-chief of Novaya Gazeta Dmitry Muratov said this on the air of the radio station Echo of Moscow. As Muratov noted, speaking about Nagorno-Karabakh, “Muslim Kurds support Nagorno-Karabakh and guard the Lachin corridor, which separates Armenia from Karabakh through the territory of Azerbaijan. They, the Muslims, support the Armenians. "

                Muratov's statement is another confirmation of the cooperation of the Armenian occupiers with the terrorist group RKK and the presence of terrorists in the occupied Azerbaijani lands.

                It should be reminded that, as Minval.az has repeatedly reported, the Armenian occupants are actively transporting terrorists to occupied Karabakh from the Middle East, including Syria and Lebanon.
                1. BastaKarapuzik And
                  BastaKarapuzik And 10 October 2020 11: 17
                  +1
                  The Kurds did not genocide the Armenians, did they? How can they support them?
                  1. Oquzyurd
                    Oquzyurd 10 October 2020 11: 23
                    -3
                    Study the relationship between the Kurdish PKK and the Armenian Asal. The questions you ask will disappear. A long topic, in short, they suck each other.
                    1. BastaKarapuzik And
                      BastaKarapuzik And 10 October 2020 13: 08
                      +1
                      I read user comments under the article on the relationship between Armenians and Kurds, there it is far from normal relations, not to mention
                      they suck each other

                      Asala left the stage, didn't she? They were even removed from the list of terrorist organizations (they wrote). In general, this cannot be massive, no more than some private individuals.
                  2. kotdavin4i
                    kotdavin4i 10 October 2020 12: 35
                    -1
                    Quote: BastaKarapuzikI
                    How can they support them

                    "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" The Kurds are now the blood enemies of Turkey, Armenians smuggle them into Karabakh saying that they will fight against the Turkish army, there are intercepted radio communications of their field commanders of groups (They used both Russian and Israeli equipment for interception). So many are already disappointed - there are no Turks in the ranks of the Azerbaijani army, and the losses are too great.
                    By the way, there is a photo of those killed from the Armenian side - in civilian black clothes of adults with beards - clearly not Armenians. (well, or at least not an army)
                2. Keyser soze
                  Keyser soze 10 October 2020 12: 46
                  +2
                  In occupied Nagorno-Karabakh, there are Kurdish militants: and they are the ones who guard the Lachin corridor. As reported by Minval.az,


                  And the Martians too. So far, a ton of evidence only about your barmaley. After the war you will prove your thesis before international courts. Do you think that the Armenian lobbies in France and Shtakhi will let you all down?

                  Your happy moments are ahead .... And yes, as I already wrote, the Turks are screwed up, and you will take away all the positives of communicating with the prosecutors for war crimes in Hage. laughing
          2. Asad
            Asad 10 October 2020 10: 24
            +1
            Aliyev is not eternal, it is not known how the successor will behave!
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 10 October 2020 10: 39
              +1
              If oil is cheaper - the same)).
          3. iouris
            iouris 10 October 2020 22: 51
            -1
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Representative of the Soviet Baku intelligentsia.

            Here you are not there for a long time, not the USSR. "Soviet intelligentsia" is not even a compliment.
            But if so, then for the Soviet man Azerbaijan, Armenia and Karabakh are one country.
            An intelligent person does not start an imperialist world war. Although he has "excellent English and literate Russian." (Literate!)
            He graduated from the Soviet school and graduated from MGIMO. Received free education at the expense of the USSR. His Turkish is literate. And how much did he receive from Turkey and how much did he take there?
            Aliyev's son should just mercilessly fight for a single state, and not squander the resources created by the Soviet people on internecine wars.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 11 October 2020 07: 46
              0
              Should Aliyev's son fight for the re-establishment of the USSR? ))
    2. rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 10 October 2020 11: 21
      0
      You may reach your end
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 10 October 2020 11: 57
        0
        What exactly? ))
    3. codetalker
      codetalker 10 October 2020 12: 45
      -3
      Comrade, you seem to have a false impression that Armenia and Azerbaijan are at least to some extent independent states. It's time to end the illusions. They will do what the influential global and regional players say. And the last chance to take your interests into account tonight was given by Lavrov. I hope you don't miss it.
  5. venik
    venik 10 October 2020 08: 21
    0
    Quote: Livonetc
    An almost incredible event. Hopefully ...

    =======
    And here on the site, many "whined": Russia, they say, "not in business" ... "We were ousted from there ..." ( fool )
    Lord, what a HUGE work the Foreign Ministry has done !! Of course, before the end of the crisis - even like "cancer before Africa" ​​... But the "first swallow" has already appeared! It remains to be hoped that "the process has begun"!
    PS A "worldwide "Stars and Stripes" peacekeepers"- again screwed up!
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 10 October 2020 09: 49
      -1
      Quote: venik
      Quote: Livonetc
      An almost incredible event. Hopefully ...

      =======
      And here on the site, many "whined": Russia, they say, "not in business" ... "We were ousted from there ..." ( fool )
      Lord, what a HUGE work the Foreign Ministry has done !! Of course, before the end of the crisis - even like "cancer before Africa" ​​... But the "first swallow" has already appeared! It remains to be hoped that "the process has begun"!
      PS A "worldwide "Stars and Stripes" peacekeepers"- again screwed up!

      Why are you happy ??? It's not over yet!
      1. venik
        venik 10 October 2020 14: 25
        0
        Quote: 1976AG
        Why are you happy ??? It's not over yet!

        =======
        And I'm not happy! I - HOPE!!! hi
  6. Professor
    Professor 10 October 2020 08: 48
    +9
    Quote: Livonetc
    An almost incredible event.

    Expected event. The parties need a respite for regrouping, supplying troops and further down the list. Then it will blaze with renewed vigor.
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 10 October 2020 12: 17
      0
      professor "Then it will blaze with renewed vigor."
      How to drink to give.)))
    2. venik
      venik 10 October 2020 14: 32
      -2
      Quote: Professor
      Expected event. The parties need a respite for regrouping, supplying troops and further down the list. Then will blaze with renewed vigor.

      =======
      Those. -you hope on this? Well - let's "bet" (on "who will eat his hat"): I understand, of course, that whole "professoru" (I don't know what kind) with some kind of "candidate" - to make a bet in "zapadlo" .... But .....
      PS By the way ... Do you have a hat? laughing
    3. My doctor
      My doctor 10 October 2020 17: 19
      0
      Quote: Professor
      Expected event. The parties need a respite for regrouping, supplying troops and further down the list. Then it will blaze with renewed vigor.

      a respite for a couple of days, months, years or decades?
      1. Professor
        Professor 10 October 2020 20: 16
        +3
        Quote: MyVrach
        Quote: Professor
        Expected event. The parties need a respite for regrouping, supplying troops and further down the list. Then it will blaze with renewed vigor.

        a respite for a couple of days, months, years or decades?

        If only I knew. I only know that time is playing against Armenia and I know that Azerbaijan will not give its land to anyone.
  7. halpat
    halpat 10 October 2020 09: 13
    +1
    Errors in the article are straightforward. Not Larov, but Lavrov and November 10, but October 10
  8. 1976AG
    1976AG 10 October 2020 09: 46
    +3
    If the Armenian military is withdrawn, then it is necessary to resettle people from Karabakh, otherwise they will be expelled at best, and cut out at worst. If not, the conflict will flare up again.
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 October 2020 10: 13
    +3
    Quote: Livonetc
    An almost incredible event

    Why incredible? VVP frowned ... The people quickly watched the Syrian videos of 15-17 years, figured out what's what, and the fire stopped ... Nobody wants to deal with the army that is now the Russian one ... have ... laughing
  10. orionvitt
    orionvitt 10 October 2020 11: 22
    +1
    Quote: Livonetc
    An almost incredible event.

    Come on. Simply pocket, "independent states" have exhausted their resources in two weeks. Honor has diminished, and now they pretend that everyone is so cute and ready to negotiate. Is it still weak to fight at such a pace as the Soviet Union during the Great Patriotic War? Weak. That's it, show-offs are over. They crawled to Russia. A logical result.
  11. Warrior-80
    Warrior-80 10 October 2020 12: 39
    -2
    There are no other options, it is necessary to give Azerbaijan a part of the territories that do not border on Iran, and if it does not agree to a deal, threaten with a blow from the Russian side, force it to sign a non-invasion agreement. It is already clear that from the news that the sides did not understand, a couple of missiles against militant formations from Syria and again at the negotiating table
  12. Garris199
    Garris199 10 October 2020 12: 51
    0
    Yes, everything is already. The parties accused each other of violating the ceasefire. There must be some kind of leverage to oblige the parties to a truce. These have not yet been observed.
    1. Isim soyad
      Isim soyad 10 October 2020 13: 43
      -2
      There is a lever, it is just that some people are not interested in it until the sorosyat is overthrown. After, it will work.
  13. Isim soyad
    Isim soyad 10 October 2020 13: 29
    +1
    Armenia is flagrantly violating the ceasefire. Despite the agreement to declare a ceasefire at 12:00, the Armenian army attempted to attack in the Aghdar-Terter and Fizuli-Jabrayil directions. At the same time, a number of our settlements are under artillery fire from the armed forces of Armenia.
  14. Hypertension
    Hypertension 10 October 2020 15: 40
    +1
    Quote: Livonetc
    An almost incredible event.

    From what? The Armenian lobby in Russia is strong. The same Lavrov has Armenian roots. I can imagine how uncomfortable it was for an Azerbaijani diplomat in such a company ... A hot oriental person asks a couple of affectionate representatives of the Armenian Foreign Ministry to say so, and a person who is related by blood to an opponent sits next to him, behind whom is the second largest army in the world. I have to remember the polite turns of speech.
  15. Misha Honest
    Misha Honest 10 October 2020 17: 41
    +1
    Quote: Livonetc
    An almost incredible event.
    We hope ...

    From Tomorrow I can say that he did not achieve NIFIGA. However, this was obvious to everyone ...
  • Reviews
    Reviews 10 October 2020 07: 43
    +3
    Wow. The world has not gone completely crazy.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 October 2020 10: 36
      0
      This is only a temporary truce, probably for a couple of days - and then there is another war.
      1. Reviews
        Reviews 10 October 2020 11: 13
        +2
        Quote: Vadim237
        This is only a temporary truce, probably for a couple of days

        A few days ago, there was no talk of two days of truce. Already something.
        further war again.

        I hope not. Time will tell. But, at least some kind of dialogue. They sat down at the negotiating table once, they can sit down again. And to reach bigger agreements.
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 10 October 2020 11: 35
          +1
          "Some kind of dialogue" has been going on for many years and has not ended peacefully. It is necessary to solve the problem in principle.
          1. Reviews
            Reviews 10 October 2020 11: 50
            0
            Quote: 1976AG
            "Some kind of dialogue" has been going on for many years and has not ended peacefully. It is necessary to solve the problem in principle.

            What do you propose as the "final solution"?
            The dialogue was different. Is it better for you that all this time they did not lead it, and even then they began to conduct mutual shelling? Nu-nu ...
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 11 October 2020 08: 25
              0
              Quote: Avis
              Quote: 1976AG
              "Some kind of dialogue" has been going on for many years and has not ended peacefully. It is necessary to solve the problem in principle.

              What do you propose as the "final solution"?
              The dialogue was different. Is it better for you that all this time they did not lead it, and even then they began to conduct mutual shelling? Nu-nu ...

              The "final solution" is either the resettlement of people from Karabakh, or the secession of Karabakh from Azerbaijan.
              "It's better for me .." - Yes, I just do it in parallel with what is happening with them. If they stubbornly do not want to live peacefully, then at least they will kill each other. They have lived there for hundreds of years and have been at war for hundreds of years, and should I be worried about them?
    2. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 10 October 2020 18: 15
      0
      Quote: Avis
      The world has not gone completely crazy.

      Peace to the end. People are not yet.
      1. Reviews
        Reviews 10 October 2020 18: 18
        0
        Quote: Misha Honest
        Quote: Avis
        The world has not gone completely crazy.

        Peace to the end. People are not yet.

        The word "peace" has at least three meanings. In one of them - "a large community of people."
        1. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 10 October 2020 18: 19
          0
          Quote: Avis
          The word "peace" has at least three meanings. In one of them - "a large community of people."

          Exactly.
          Quote: Avis
          "large community of people"

          The gold billion has gone crazy. hi
          Your suggestions?
          1. Reviews
            Reviews 10 October 2020 18: 40
            0
            Quote: Misha Honest
            Quote: Avis
            The word "peace" has at least three meanings. In one of them - "a large community of people."

            Exactly.

            Sapienti sat.
            The gold billion has gone crazy. hi

            Like, the "yellow-brown five billion" are sane ... Either China and India, now there is a fight in the NKR, now the Japs are getting closer to changing the Constitution ...
            Your suggestions?

            On the subject?
            1. Misha Honest
              Misha Honest 10 October 2020 18: 45
              -1
              Quote: Avis
              Like, the "yellow-brown five billion" are sane ... Either China and India, now there is a fight in the NKR, now the Japs are getting closer to changing the Constitution ...

              So, thanks to GDP, we still do not have a union treaty ...
              Quote: Avis
              On the subject?

              Defense and ATTACK on the crap! recourse
              1. Reviews
                Reviews 10 October 2020 19: 05
                -1
                Quote: Misha Honest


                So, thanks to GDP, we still do not have a union treaty ...

                Defense and ATTACK on the crap! recourse

                Clear. And someone else is bleating something about the "crazy golden billion" ...
  • Dave36
    Dave36 10 October 2020 07: 46
    +5
    Yes, good, Azerbaijan is exhausted and does not want to fight with infantry, because the Armenians are shooting them up the mountain ... Here you need to gain a foothold without an offensive ...
    1. nnm
      nnm 10 October 2020 08: 09
      +6
      Everything is possible. But nonetheless. The world is the world. Even if in the form of a truce. And your opinion also has a downside - restoration of the defense line, strengthening of the command and control system, the introduction of reinforcements, etc. from Armenia.
    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 08: 14
      +6
      Quote: Dave36
      Azerbaijan is exhausted and does not want to fight with the infantry, because the Armenians will shoot them up the mountain .. Here you need to gain a foothold without an offensive ...


      It seems that colorful YouTube videos are not the main thing, the blitzkrieg did not come out ...
      1. nnm
        nnm 10 October 2020 08: 17
        +5
        Yesterday, colleagues on the site published a map of the operational situation (albeit from the channel's telegrams), it clearly shows that the blitzkrieg was not just exhausted, but simply crashed, given the intention.
        1. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 10 October 2020 08: 50
          +1
          Here is a reference from yesterday Cassada, the map is not yet available, but it will probably be released later in the day.

          Judging by the time spent, the Russian Federation is making serious efforts to find a compromise option that will allow both sides to save face.
          Aliyev's statements about the capture of Gadrut turned out to be a lie. Madagiz was never captured de facto - Azerbaijanis sit on the heights near the village. Like the Armenians.
          In total, by August 9, Azerbaijan's control over Jabrayil and Talish was 100 percent confirmed. The Armenians control Fizuli and Hadrut. Madagiz in the disputed zone
          1. nnm
            nnm 10 October 2020 08: 55
            +1
            From his resource and published yesterday the map.
          2. kotdavin4i
            kotdavin4i 10 October 2020 09: 20
            +1
            Quote: Keyser Soze
            Madagiz in the disputed zone

            Water from the Madagiz reservoir - which was blocked by the Armenians for two days already, flows into the Talish River, and then to the territory of previously unoccupied territories. The ecological balance is being restored. The restoration services of Azerbaijan are starting to work in Sugovushan (Madagiz).
            And then you sit on your couch in Bulgaria ...
            1. Keyser soze
              Keyser soze 10 October 2020 09: 24
              -1
              The restoration services of Azerbaijan are starting to work in Sugovushan (Madagiz).


              Colonel Cassad is the most reliable open source outside of special services and your lies and propaganda are ridiculous.
              1. kotdavin4i
                kotdavin4i 10 October 2020 09: 57
                -4
                Quote: Keyser Soze
                and the propaganda is ridiculous.

                I am still interested in how you will "sing" when all the hostilities are over and Azerbaijan begins to rebuild the liberated territories ...
                In the old days, a man caught in a lie - he publicly apologized or shot himself a bullet in the forehead - unless of course you are a man ...
                1. SSR
                  SSR 10 October 2020 11: 11
                  +3
                  Quote: kotdavin4i
                  Quote: Keyser Soze
                  and the propaganda is ridiculous.

                  I am still interested in how you will "sing" when all the hostilities are over and Azerbaijan begins to rebuild the liberated territories ...
                  In the old days, a man caught in a lie - he publicly apologized or shot himself a bullet in the forehead - unless of course you are a man ...

                  Comrade, I personally am not a supporter of either side and both sides cause negative associations in me. I'm wondering, you write beautiful words, but if you yourself turned out to be a deceived person, what will your words look like about yourself?
                  I think many comrades will confirm that there is more trust to third-party sources than to Armenian and Azerbaijani ones.
                  All three countries, it is better to say toasts at weddings. IMHA.
                  1. kotdavin4i
                    kotdavin4i 10 October 2020 11: 42
                    -2
                    Quote: SSR
                    you yourself turned out to be a deceived person,

                    Comrade, I myself am from Azerbaijan, moreover, I myself am in uniform (sorry, but I can't say any more), I hope you understand that I have much more information than 90% of those who unsubscribe here ...
                    With respect.
                    1. SSR
                      SSR 10 October 2020 11: 55
                      +2
                      Quote: kotdavin4i
                      Quote: SSR
                      you yourself turned out to be a deceived person,

                      Comrade, I myself am from Azerbaijan, moreover, I myself am in uniform (sorry, but I can't say any more), I hope you understand that I have much more information than 90% of those who unsubscribe here ...
                      With respect.

                      hi
                      If the politicians do not agree, then the guns begin to agree, I wish they would come to an agreement and peace came to the earth.
                      PS.
                      People are already full of problems, but politicians very often resort to this tool as getting rid of an excess of passionaries. Therefore, personally, I simply do not have confidence in them, for beautiful words they often solve completely different problems.
                2. Quadro
                  Quadro 10 October 2020 11: 14
                  +1
                  Quote: kotdavin4i
                  Quote: Keyser Soze
                  and the propaganda is ridiculous.

                  I am still interested in how you will "sing" when all the hostilities are over and Azerbaijan begins to rebuild the liberated territories ...
                  In the old days, a man caught in a lie - he publicly apologized or shot himself a bullet in the forehead - unless of course you are a man ...

                  This one is not a man. Brehal and will breach. Well, as always, the "little brother" Bulgarian climbs into topics that he himself does not whip (here not everyone understands the showdown for NK) and at the same time he is still indignant when the locals quite reasonably make claims to him, "I'm not here for Russian desires" ... And what did he forget then here?
                3. Keyser soze
                  Keyser soze 10 October 2020 18: 29
                  0
                  old times, a man caught in a lie - he publicly apologized or shot himself a bullet in the forehead - unless of course you are a man ...


                  In the old days we had a different tradition in the Balkans - we argue among ourselves, then we put a bullet in the Turk's head. Nothing personal - tradition. love

                  Help - the capture of Adrianople. Balkan War.
                  1. kotdavin4i
                    kotdavin4i 10 October 2020 20: 36
                    0
                    Quote: Keyser Soze
                    In the old days

                    In the old days, your old men would give you a skirt ... and they sent you to help women ... love
                    1. Keyser soze
                      Keyser soze 10 October 2020 21: 13
                      -1
                      old days - your old men would give you a skirt.


                      It is quite possible, the old people were harsh, and I could not answer their expectations. No matter how military officers of the Kingdom of Bulgaria and RI were. They took Adrianople from the Turks, fought in Albania, beat the British at Kresna.

                      The Kingdom Army was called the Prussians of the Balkans. By the way, Adrianople was taken as the old man Suvorov ordered - in a duck attack. The Turks did it as usual, and 65 surrendered. The warriors are ridiculous. laughing

                      Here you will not surrender in any way - I think the Armenians will shoot you.
      2. Yalquzaq
        Yalquzaq 10 October 2020 09: 07
        -5
        yes, of course, this morning today the heroic Armenian models with dummies colorfully saluted in the victory over Baku
        [media = https: //haqqin.az/news/191254]
    3. Vasya Lozhkin
      Vasya Lozhkin 10 October 2020 08: 21
      0
      The Armenians are exhausted. Pashinyan began babbling about the negotiations for several days. Although a month ago he was pretending to be a samurai and shouting "Armenian Karabakh". The Armenians need negotiations more now. After a month of hostilities at such a pace, the Armenians will have nothing to fight with and such losses (2-3 thousand people in 10 days of battles) they cannot afford. And the economy of Armenia will be weaker. If the Armenians “speak their teeth” for a few more days, the Azerbaijanis will continue to strike and move slowly. They can afford these losses. The Armenians will simply run out of equipment and ammunition and will have to go into the mountains and partisan until they get bored.
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 08: 31
        +6
        (2-3 thousand people in 10 battles days)


        Then the Azerbaijanis have already put 10 thousand .....
        The Armenian officials say about 400 people were killed, the Azerbaijanis are simply silent.
      2. karima
        karima 10 October 2020 09: 56
        -2
        Quote: Vasya Lozhkin
        The Armenians are exhausted. Pashinyan began babbling about the negotiations for several days. Although a month ago he was pretending to be a samurai and shouting "Armenian Karabakh". The Armenians need negotiations more now. After a month of hostilities at such a pace, the Armenians will have nothing to fight with and such losses (2-3 thousand people in 10 days of battles) they cannot afford. And the economy of Armenia will be weaker. If the Armenians “speak their teeth” for a few more days, the Azerbaijanis will continue to strike and move slowly. They can afford these losses. The Armenians will simply run out of equipment and ammunition and will have to go into the mountains and partisan until they get bored.

        True, but it would be worth adding that Russia also needs negotiations, to show that the remnants of its former greatness have not yet been lost. But it seems to me that it will hit Armenia. Azerbaijan outlined the conditions in advance, and if Armenia does not accept them, Moscow will be able to say, we tried, but the parties refused.
    4. rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 10 October 2020 11: 23
      +1
      So they've already gotten sick like shit on the sidelines, it's just that the aisers were given time to collect the dead thing, otherwise the mountains stink
    5. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 10 October 2020 18: 17
      0
      Quote: Dave36
      Yes, good, Azerbaijan is exhausted and does not want to fight with infantry, because the Armenians are shooting them up the mountain ... Here you need to gain a foothold without an offensive ...

      This means that they will use drones until the end, until someone finds an effective means against them.
  • icant007
    icant007 10 October 2020 07: 50
    0
    It's just a short break for the weekend.
    1. nnm
      nnm 10 October 2020 08: 10
      +2
      Maybe you are right. But during these days the network will have time to leave, people will not die, and peaceful objects will not be destroyed.
    2. venik
      venik 10 October 2020 08: 32
      +5
      Quote: icant007
      It's just a short break for the weekend.

      ======
      Even if this is just a "respite" .... Even if "only for the weekend" is still a "bell": BOTH sides start to "run out of steam" ....
      The most IMPORTANT thing is for the "weekend break" to continue for a week .... Then for one more ... Then for another one ....... So you look - the situation will calm down a little ... Unfortunately - The PROBLEM will remain ...
      And HOW to solve it? request But somehow it is necessary world go....
      PS I personally - not for Armenians and not for Azerbaijanis! I just feel sorry for PEOPLE!
      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 10 October 2020 09: 10
        0
        Quote: venik
        And HOW to solve it?

        The Azerbaijanis gathered to bite off a little: they captured, consolidated, captured more, etc. And Russia does not dispute that Karabakh is like Azerbaijan.
        1. venik
          venik 10 October 2020 09: 25
          +1
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          And Russia does not dispute that Karabakh is like Azerbaijan.

          ========
          Oh is it? If there is a territory on the territory of one country where representatives of other nationalities ethnically related to the neighboring country are PROBLEM!!! A very big PROBLEM! HOW to solve it ??? - request And which is more important - "territory" or "PEOPLE"? request what
          1. Bashkirkhan
            Bashkirkhan 10 October 2020 09: 45
            0
            Quote: venik
            If there is a territory on the territory of one country where representatives of another nationality, ethnically related to the neighboring country, live compactly, this is a PROBLEM !!! A very big PROBLEM!

            Let Armenia and Azerbaijan solve their problems on their own, and so the main thing is the territory. There are more people, both Armenians and Azerbaijanis, in Russia than in these states. And for example, why should Russia react somehow if the Armenians themselves cannot cope? They are, in my opinion, easier to drain. They are beggars like church mice and there is nothing to take from them. They also turned out to be no ally and do not render any serious assistance to us, in Yerevan a whole battalion is sitting in the American embassy. Only expenses for them, and no profit. Withdraw the troops and forget about them, let them scoop out of the place where they drove themselves with their multi-vector nature.
            1. venik
              venik 10 October 2020 13: 39
              +1
              Quote: Bashkirkhan
              They are, in my opinion, easier to drain.

              =======
              EASIER .... Maybe! But about "merge": a similar formulation is neither for a MAN, nor for a CITIZEN, nor, even more so OFFICER - NOT ACCEPTABLE!
              Get "From the Whole Soul" "-" (If met PERSONALLY) - I would get: "Foot on face ... and face on table!" angry
              PS Fortunately, NOT ALL profess "morality" vulgar MARKET TRADERS!!!!
              1. Bashkirkhan
                Bashkirkhan 10 October 2020 14: 47
                -2
                Normal term, now capitalism. For example, the SOVIET people sold their homeland to the oligarchs, because they were ideologically disarmed by the communists. And the Russian people now do not know how to get out of this heap of shit. And I don't want to sacrifice my homeland for the sake of some slogans, even the most beautiful and correct ones on earth. For centuries the Russian people lived worse than the annexed outskirts. NOT RATED. Our soldiers and officers have been dying for centuries for the interests of the same Armenians. So what? WHAT WE GOT? And we received posters with the slogans "Invaders - get out." Drain the sludge or dump the ballast from the freeloaders and get stuck - that's right. And you continue to talk with slogans.
                It seems that you live in a cozy and imaginary world, very far from reality.
                1. venik
                  venik 10 October 2020 18: 38
                  0
                  Quote: Bashkirkhan
                  Normal term, now capitalism. For example, the SOVIET people sold their homeland to the oligarchs, because they were ideologically disarmed by the communists.

                  =========
                  That is BEFORE that is. under the "king-father" (or under capitalism?) - he (Soviet People) was ideologically ARMED? belay
                  ---------
                  Quote: Bashkirkhan
                  Our soldiers and officers have been dying for centuries for the interests of the same Armenians.

                  ==========
                  And for the interests Azerbaijanis - did not die?
                  ---------
                  Quote: Bashkirkhan
                  It seems that you live in a cozy and imaginary world, very far from reality.

                  ==========
                  A "cozy" and "fictitious" world - WHAT is it?
                  -------
                  Quote: Bashkirkhan
                  They are, in my opinion, easier to drain.

                  ==========
                  They "merge" each other only criminals и market traders!
                  --------
                  [/ b]!
                  Quote: Bashkirkhan
                  So what? WHAT WE GOT?

                  ===========
                  TYPICAL reasoning market trader! ("AND Sho I'll be with it have? ")
          2. vVvAD
            vVvAD 10 October 2020 12: 11
            +2
            Quote: venik
            And which is more important - "territory" or "PEOPLE"? request what

            International law does not provide a clear answer to this question. There is a right of state sovereignty over the territory. But there is also the right of peoples to self-determination. Many constitutions stipulate that the subject (bearer) of sovereignty is the people. But the mutual exclusion of the first two principles, the absence of developed international criteria and mechanisms for determining when the first principle should prevail, and when - the second (to a large extent because of the desire of some states to manipulate international law and the UN and the resulting weakness of the latter) leads only to the fact that each controversial issue must be negotiated separately by a circle of interested border states and regional powers. Therefore, whoever and how it does not like it, with Turkey in any case will have to communicate on this topic. And it is better at once in a group of countries, including Armenia, Azerbaijan, Iran and the Russian Federation - secret diplomacy does no honor and does not give any guarantees of compliance with the agreements. The United States, professing this method, is driving itself into a trap, forcing itself to implement economic and military threats so that its secret blackmail is reckoned with, spending more than it receives, and losing loyalty to more and more satellites. And it is better to keep silent about the "successes" of European diplomacy.
            1. venik
              venik 10 October 2020 14: 18
              0
              Quote: vVvAD
              International law does not provide a clear answer to this question.

              =====
              "International" law "" - DOES NOT GIVE! This is exactly the QUESTION that every PERSON and CITIZEN must solve for himself PERSONALLY!
              PS My old friend - he is just a lawyer (both by education and by way of thinking) - so he just adheres to the "legal" point of view. Itself is NOT a lawyer and for me the main thing is not "law", but JUSTICE!
              And if the "law" doesn't fit justice... you don't need to change справедливость, and the "law"!
              For "laws" - come up with people! Moreover, not always the BEST representatives of the human race (ie "Deputies") ....
              And MORALITY and MORALITY are concepts OUTSIDE of their "deputy" understanding!
              PPS You can "throw slippers"!
          3. andreykolesov123
            andreykolesov123 10 October 2020 13: 53
            +1
            Quote: venik
            where representatives of other nationalities live compactly, ethnically related to the neighboring country - this is a PROBLEM !!! A very big PROBLEM! HOW to solve it ???

            What are we going to do with the Jewish Autonomous Region?
            1. venik
              venik 10 October 2020 18: 45
              0
              Quote: andreykolesov123
              What are we going to do with the Jewish Autonomous Region?

              =======
              Well .... first you need to find out HOW MUCH (% of the population) there really is an "E" ..... lol drinks
              1. andreykolesov123
                andreykolesov123 10 October 2020 20: 27
                0
                Quote: venik
                Quote: andreykolesov123
                What are we going to do with the Jewish Autonomous Region?

                =======
                Well .... first you need to find out HOW MUCH (% of the population) there really is an "E" ..... lol drinks

                All have already left for I, they were left alone
                1. venik
                  venik 10 October 2020 22: 19
                  0
                  Quote: andreykolesov123
                  All have already left for I, they were left alone

                  =======
                  Not yours! No. here "f" just go to "I" ..... And those who stayed - they just are "E"!
                  1. andreykolesov123
                    andreykolesov123 11 October 2020 16: 29
                    -1
                    Quote: venik
                    Quote: andreykolesov123
                    All have already left for I, they were left alone

                    =======
                    Not yours! No. here "f" just go to "I" ..... And those who stayed - they just are "E"!

                    Why so? Did you really like the Jewish yoke in the country so much?
        2. Victorio
          Victorio 10 October 2020 10: 01
          +2
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          Quote: venik
          And HOW to solve it?

          The Azerbaijanis gathered to bite off a little: they captured, consolidated, captured more, etc. And Russia does not dispute that Karabakh is like Azerbaijan.

          ===
          divide the halves so that both sides will not be offended by a r tsakh and karabakh
          1. Bashkirkhan
            Bashkirkhan 10 October 2020 10: 36
            +1
            Quote: Victorio
            divide the halves so that both sides will not be offended by a r tsakh and karabakh

            Both sides will not be satisfied with this, the one who proposed such a solution will still remain extreme.
            1. Victorio
              Victorio 10 October 2020 10: 44
              +3
              Quote: Bashkirkhan
              Quote: Victorio
              divide the halves so that both sides will not be offended by a r tsakh and karabakh

              Both sides will not be satisfied, who proposed such a solution will still be extreme.

              ===
              they decide. I would agree to this
            2. venik
              venik 10 October 2020 19: 14
              +1
              Quote: Bashkirkhan
              Both sides will not be satisfied with this, the one who proposed such a solution will still remain extreme.

              ========
              What is true is true! drinks
              But ... as one of my acquaintances (the smartest person, by the way) once said: "A compromise is not the case when both sides good! This is exactly the case when both sides poorly! But there is NO other option to come to an agreement! And if you do not agree, it will be EVEN WORSE! ".... request
          2. vVvAD
            vVvAD 10 October 2020 12: 36
            +2
            This is hardly possible: Aptsax is populated by Armenians, and it is populated very unevenly - here is the demographic map for 2012 - is outdated, but it will do for a general understanding of the territorial distribution of the population.

            https://www.liveinternet.ru/users/4161432/page2.html
            In the conditions of mutual hatred of Armenians and Azerbaijanis, the transformation of territories densely populated by Armenians into an enclave of Azerbaijan will lead, at best, to isolation, and at worst, to ethnic cleansing by the latter.
            The demographically mirrored situation in Nakhichevan is the ancient Armenian land from which the Armenians fled during the 1st World War and earlier times. It is populated by almost 100% Azerbaijanis, and this is the same reality as in relation to the Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh. And legally, this is also the territory of Azerbaijan. But Armenia resigned itself to his loss and makes no claims against him.
            In fact, Azerbaijan's revisionism is fueled by the legal status of Nagorno-Karabakh.
            1. Victorio
              Victorio 12 October 2020 09: 47
              0
              Quote: vVvAD
              In the conditions of mutual hatred of Armenians and Azerbaijanis, the transformation of territories densely populated by Armenians into an enclave of Azerbaijan will lead, at best, to isolation, and at worst, to ethnic cleansing by the latter.
              The demographically mirrored situation in Nakhichevan is the ancient Armenian land from which the Armenians fled during the 1st World War and earlier times. It is populated by almost 100% Azerbaijanis, and this is the same reality as in relation to the Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh. And legally, this is also the territory of Azerbaijan. But Armenia resigned itself to his loss and makes no claims against him.
              In fact, Azerbaijan's revisionism is fueled by the legal status of Nagorno-Karabakh.

              ===
              nevertheless, this option of dividing Nagorno-Karabakh is being considered. Yesterday Zhirinovsky voiced the idea of ​​separation.
              Thanks for the link to the maps!
          3. venik
            venik 10 October 2020 19: 09
            0
            Quote: Victorio
            divide the halves so that both sides will not be offended by a r tsakh and karabakh

            =========
            More insane, crazy ( fool ) idea - it's hard to imagine !!!
            But, alas! It looks like the ONLY REAL the ability to somehow stop this crazy slaughterhouse! And with it, the ever-growing mutual hatred! good drinks
            But HOW to implement it? - request
      2. rotkiv04
        rotkiv04 10 October 2020 11: 26
        +4
        It is a pity or not, but the conflicts in the Caucasus last for centuries and are interrupted only when an external force comes in, kicks everyone in the head and pulls them by the scruff of the neck in the corners, it doesn't work with them otherwise
  • Senka naughty
    Senka naughty 10 October 2020 07: 53
    +5
    The prepared videos of "combat actions" are over. Aliyev dismissed the peacekeepers, it appears that either Kvashnyan will bend and overthrow from Karabakh, or Aliyev will regroup and Karabakh will not be left to the Armenians, but the videos will be shown. And by and large, don't fucking do our peacekeepers in NKR if the Armenians themselves don't need this land.
    1. Vitaly Tsymbal
      Vitaly Tsymbal 10 October 2020 08: 40
      +1
      Of course, you can sneer at the death of people sitting at a computer, you can make as if clever conclusions, but first you need to know at least look into the sources and figure out - where is the Armenian land, and where is Azerbaijani ...
      1. venik
        venik 10 October 2020 09: 12
        +8
        Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
        Of course, you can sneer at the death of people while sitting at a computer,

        ====
        good Surprisingly, for me and my comrades, the Symbol of War has become .... CAT! It was a long time ago and not in the Soviet Union .... It somehow brought us to the village. this neat and cozy WAS (!) village (by local standards, of course) .... Exactly - WAS, because the art of one of the warring parties smashed its "vschent"! WHY and WHY - one can only guess ... Local residents (fortunately) managed to run away in time ... But no house - did not survive! And now a cat was wandering around the ruins of one of the houses. The most common! She wandered around and meowed plaintively: she used to have a HOUSE ... There were owners who probably loved and cared about her ..... But there was NOTHING left !!! And what about PEOPLE to talk about !? They then - HOW?
        ----------
        Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
        sitting at the computer, you can make as if clever inferences, but first you need to know at least look into the sources and figure out - where is the Armenian land, and where is Azerbaijani ...

        ========
        Everything is so there confused и intertwined! Mostly Armenians lived in Nagorno-Karabakh. But this is ANKLAV on the territory of Azerbaijan! It is separated from Armenia (separated) by the lands inhabited mainly Azerbaijanis. During the conflict, these territories "became" part of the "unrecognized" Karabakh Republic, which by the way announced its secession from the AzSSR even during the collapse of the Union .... But - alas! It never received official status. And after all, this was NOT the beginning - but the CONTINUATION of the conflict between Armenians and Azerbaijanis in Karabakh, which lasted for centuries!
        So try to decide here, "WHO - rights, who - to blame",
      2. Senka naughty
        Senka naughty 10 October 2020 09: 25
        +4
        Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
        Of course, you can sneer at the death of people sitting at a computer, you can make as if clever conclusions, but first you need to know at least look into the sources and figure out - where is the Armenian land, and where is Azerbaijani ...

        I don't come here to talk, and the death of people does not add pleasure to me, believe me.

        figure out - where is the Armenian land, and where is the Azerbaijani ...

        If only it were that simple. In the Caucasus, the law of the state is inferior to the law of force, in the 90s the Armenians expelled absolutely peaceful Azerbaijanis, they armed themselves and are now kicking the Armenians. And what do you propose to understand here? If they have not been able to agree at the state level for 30 years. The only way out is to build a wall of 10 meters between the countries and prohibit them from crossing for 100 years .. In Russia, Azerbaijanis and Armenians drink vodka in the bathhouse, and in their homeland they gnaw at the ground.
        1. venik
          venik 10 October 2020 13: 24
          +1
          Quote: Senka Mad
          I don't come here to talk, and the death of people does not add pleasure to me, believe me.

          ======
          I believe! Once upon a time, my wife asked: "did you have to KILL people?" ...
          Terrible question! The answer was absolutely honest: "I don't know! But I hope NO!" ....
          PS Night fight is a thing creepy!
  • parusnik
    parusnik 10 October 2020 07: 54
    +5
    A truce, however ...
  • Fungus
    Fungus 10 October 2020 07: 55
    +3
    It's a pity that only a temporary truce ...
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 10 October 2020 08: 10
      +1
      Quote: Fungus
      It's a pity that only a temporary truce ...

      The fact that not under the auspices of striped ears is already a good sign. hi
  • stalki
    stalki 10 October 2020 08: 02
    +2
    This is already interesting. Is the brain turned on? If something peaceful comes out of this, then people can be themselves and not everything is lost.
  • Kerensky
    Kerensky 10 October 2020 08: 04
    +5
    Standard situation - the operation time has expired. It will take them a week to regroup at that theater. The Armenians will deploy mines and landmines, bring the ammo to the guns. To Azerbaijanis - intelligence.
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 10 October 2020 08: 05
    +4

    Ministerial statement. (From the resource Colonel Kassad)
    Lavrov's statement on the results
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrHa5-Z2ieU
    1. icant007
      icant007 10 October 2020 08: 10
      -13 qualifying.
      In general, the mountain gave birth to a mouse.
      The result of the ten-hour negotiations is zero.
      As much as we rejoice at the ceasefire.
      1. nnm
        nnm 10 October 2020 08: 20
        +3
        Indeed, it will not be shelling of cities, how peaceful people will be able to take their families out and continue to live - definitely, the truce is bad! More rockets, more shells, more deaths !!!! Absolute zero, since someone's lives will be saved by these negotiations. In general, what Moscow allows itself! Colleague, I suggest you contact the League of Sexual Reforms demanding new sanctions for Russia!
        1. icant007
          icant007 10 October 2020 08: 41
          -2
          Sheer zero - then, that such a ceasefire could have been agreed at the level of the belligerents' commands. This paper is for the public.
          Perhaps there are some other agreements that we are not told about.

          I suggest you contact the Sexual Reform League


          and you've probably already contacted, since this question worries)

          No offense )))
          1. nnm
            nnm 10 October 2020 08: 43
            +1
            And why didn't you agree? There are no "could", "if" and so on in history. There is only a fait accompli.
            Mutually, no offense hi
      2. BastaKarapuzik And
        BastaKarapuzik And 10 October 2020 11: 36
        +2
        The conflict is hundreds of years old, at least, it has no unambiguous solution.
        What Azerbaijan considered a solution only caused an escalation, and as a result, both sides suffer losses.
        Obviously, already unacceptable losses, and even with full control of this territory by the Azerbaijani troops, the issue will not be resolved without a humanitarian catastrophe, pogroms, and refugees.
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  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 10 October 2020 08: 05
    -1
    Thank God, the carnage has ended.
    1. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 10 October 2020 08: 10
      -2
      Quote: Krasnodar
      Thank God, the carnage has ended.

      There was no slaughter yet. And the fact that it has not yet reached her is also good, as well as the fact that a fragile truce has come.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 10 October 2020 08: 24
        0
        You mean the massacre of the peace man? Glory to Gd, it was not. But young soldiers from both sides died in hundreds.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 10 October 2020 19: 15
          0
          Quote: Krasnodar
          died in hundreds on both sides.

          Yeah, by the thousands.
    2. nnm
      nnm 10 October 2020 08: 11
      0
      Not yet. Quite possibly this is just a pause. But even it means a lot to those who have time to take out the children, who will not die during these days and will continue to live. ...
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 10 October 2020 08: 26
        -1
        I hope there will be a long pause. These are countries with small economies, for a new round it will take a long time to save money, especially in the context of the crisis caused by the pandemic.
  • Vasya Lozhkin
    Vasya Lozhkin 10 October 2020 08: 13
    -3
    Azerbaijan can be congratulated. If the Armenians “don’t get horny” and start “pulling rubber”, the withdrawal of the Armenian occupation troops from 5-7 regions of Azerbaijan outside Karabakh will begin with further negotiations on the status of Nagorno-Karabakh. Pashinyan is kaput.
    1. farm2009
      farm2009 10 October 2020 08: 32
      +2
      Do you think that Armenia will withdraw its troops, believing that after that Azerbaijan will not trample on Karabakh? Unrealistic.
    2. Buka001
      Buka001 10 October 2020 08: 34
      +1
      Azerbaijan has been seeking this peacefully for many years. Unfortunately, Armenia did not understand. The victims of both sides are on the conscience of the Armenian leadership.
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 09: 05
        +1
        So the military did not get any better in essence ...
        1. Buka001
          Buka001 10 October 2020 13: 11
          -2
          But it did not work out) With what fright then pashik calls everyone and asks for help. They would not ask for an armistice if everything is so good with the Armenians.
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 10 October 2020 13: 40
            +2
            The body movements of this cretin are of little interest to me. On the 28th I told your compatriot that such operations should be carried out as soon as possible. Five, maximum 7 days. Then political complications begin. And today is the 13th day. Promotion is minimal. The tasks of defeating the Armenian army, at least in the NKAO, have not been resolved. The losses are probably no less than those of the Armenians. And the truce, well, as it were, in the interests of Yerevan .... But only?
  • Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 10 October 2020 08: 13
    +5
    I am glad, sincerely glad that the first agreements have been reached ... My friends on both sides will stop killing each other. Let "heavy" diplomacy be better than "light" war. Peace must come to the Caucasus.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 October 2020 14: 22
      -1
      Your joy turned out to be premature - the fighting continues, the drones of Azerbaijan today are simply tearing and tagging for more than two dozen videos have been posted with the destruction of Armenian equipment.
  • Svetlana
    Svetlana 10 October 2020 08: 16
    +3
    The war of these peoples has been going on for a hundred years, its usefulness was dying out only under the Soviet Union, so this is just another respite.
    Well, or as Zhirinovsky said, they need to unite with Russia, and then the war will subside for a long time.
  • Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 10 October 2020 08: 23
    +1
    It's very good that they stopped shooting. If this is not a perigrouping of forces and pacification for a long time, then when all the dust settles, it will be possible to look at the results.
  • 416D
    416D 10 October 2020 08: 24
    0
    Quote: nnm
    Yesterday, colleagues on the site published a map of the operational situation (albeit from the channel's telegrams), it clearly shows that the blitzkrieg was not just exhausted, but simply crashed, given the intention.


    Were you familiar with the general staff's idea?
    1. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 10 October 2020 09: 13
      -1
      Looking at the map, it's not hard to understand. There are few options. And if there are no results for 10 days of battles, what conclusion can be drawn?
  • Alena-Baku
    Alena-Baku 10 October 2020 08: 24
    -1
    I wonder how much time was given for Pashinyan's departure, in any case, Kocheryan will sooner return.
  • raki-uzo
    raki-uzo 10 October 2020 08: 52
    +2
    The first successful "fight" of Armenia in 2 weeks. Russia, all the same (and again), did not leave them in trouble.
  • PartizaN
    PartizaN 10 October 2020 08: 54
    +1
    They will regroup and start wetting again .. Until Karabakh is surrendered! Aliyev is serious and has nowhere to go and got into a fight once.
    1. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 10 October 2020 09: 20
      +2
      And what will change after the regrouping? If in 10 days of fighting, nothing was achieved with the use of all possible forces and means. They will walk a couple more kilometers, take a couple more useless villages, and what?))) Blitzkrieg failed, we need to "turn on the back" until the situation worsened to the utmost.
      1. PartizaN
        PartizaN 10 October 2020 09: 54
        0
        Quote: TermNachTER
        And what will change after the regrouping? If in 10 days of fighting, using all possible forces and means, nothing has been achieved

        Basically nothing ... They will continue to kill each other for some rocky territory ..
        Quote: TermNachTER
        They will walk a couple more kilometers, take a couple more useless villages, and what?))) Blitzkrieg failed, we need to "turn on the back" until the situation worsened to the utmost.

        Aliyev promised to return Karabakh, he has no other choice. Either a bloody victory, or resignation, or maybe they will be imprisoned or flooded ..
        I think you don't really need to restrain them, let them wet each other .. But then, for 30 years, silence and calmness again.
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 10 October 2020 09: 57
          +2
          As my ex-wife used to say: "Promise does not mean getting married"))) Aliyev will promise his subjects something else))))
          1. PartizaN
            PartizaN 10 October 2020 10: 08
            +1
            Quote: TermNachTER
            As my ex-wife used to say: "Promise does not mean getting married"))) Aliyev will promise his subjects something else))))

            Alas, this promise was the most important to restore the integrity of the country, etc.
            If this time it doesn’t work out (and he won’t get it for sure), then Aliyev will have a hard time. It turns out that he is a balabol ... He shouldn’t have contacted the Turks, too many are angry with them in the world (at Erdogan).
            1. TermNachTer
              TermNachTer 10 October 2020 11: 57
              +1
              If a statesman (well, or a person who considers himself as such) is not able to calculate the likelihood of the development of events for a couple of weeks (months) ahead, and for this he has intelligence and analysts, then why does he even hold this position?))) Especially this applies to Banderland. There, the control system has already turned into a traveling circus - big top
  • Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 09: 02
    -5
    Quote: Egoza
    Quote: icant007
    Where does this information come from?

    https://rusvesna.su/news/1602250133
    Inhumans: assassins from Syria came to punish Armenians, but took on Azerbaijanis (PHOTOS)

    Super trustworthy source ...
    By the way, did it ever occur to anyone that thanks to this source, that part of the male population of Russia was deceived and dispersed, which in a different situation, easy-going and sensitive to the interests of the Russian people, could play a decisive role?
    Indeed, in addition to those who went for a couple of gold coins, hundreds if not thousands of patriots and devoted sons of their people went ... Now look where the Russian Spring is, I'm not talking about a resource, who and how uses the fruits of their battles, where everything was generously watered with their blood ?

    Here's another super source:

    Video transcript below:
    Aram Gabrelyanov: Who do you think understands better, me or Dmitriev?

    Semyon Pegov: I think you understand better ...

    Aram Gabrelyanov: It's good that you understand, that I understand better ... And the fact that you are doing bullshit and I openly tell you about it does not mean that you need to argue with me and prove something. You don't need to prove something to me, I know better than you what to do and how to do it. You listen to what I tell you and do what I tell you. And you are trying to arrange a Lezgin drama theater for me here: they say, Dmitriev came to me and said, Vartanovna came and said. Do they understand better than me? Fuck you! If they understood better than me, they would sit here ...

    Semyon Pegov: Well, the texts would have recruited more reposts ...

    Aram Gabrelyanov: (Shouts) This is how I explain it to you. Nobody reads the texts, nobody needs it anymore! People only watch videos and read short text. And that's it! Nobody needs your texts anymore. Forget already, b *. What are you, what Nastya ... Two tourists. I will soon create a tourism department for you b *. Morons, b *. Prepare yes.

    Well, this one, unlike many, is at least a paid Armenian mongrel ...
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 10 October 2020 10: 05
      +1
      It's been a no-brainer for a long time that the people don't hawala texts. As soon as the "sheet", then make a fool. Moreover, in the media, there are fewer and fewer talents to write the sheets and more and more victims of the Unified State Exam, in conjunction with the mania of election, it is full of seams.
      That's why you brought this b * DECODING VIDEO? What are you decrypting here, Russian into Russian, for Russians?
  • Livonetc
    Livonetc 10 October 2020 09: 06
    +1
    Quote: Buka001
    Don't spread this nonsense. They do not need mercenaries from Syria.

    To them, who is this?
    Azerbaijan does not need it.
    For Turkey, this is a familiar and convenient tool.
    1. Simple
      Simple 10 October 2020 09: 54
      -2
      Quote: Livonetc
      For Turkey, this is a familiar and convenient tool.

      But not for Azerbaijan.
      "Wild proxies" are introduced if there is an intention to destroy the country.
    2. PartizaN
      PartizaN 10 October 2020 09: 57
      +1
      Quote: Livonetc
      Quote: Buka001
      Don't spread this nonsense. They do not need mercenaries from Syria.

      To them, who is this?
      Azerbaijan does not need it.
      For Turkey, this is a familiar and convenient tool.

      This is very dangerous for everyone! Most likely, the Turks kindled the conflict precisely for the transfer of devils from the BV closer to Russia .. There you really need to react harshly !!!
      In Kyrgyzstan, too, a turmoil begins ..
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 10 October 2020 09: 10
    +1
    Q.E.D. The blitzkrieg failed and Aliyev (Erdogan) quickly "turned on the back" until the next time. I feel sorry for ordinary people
  • Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 09: 12
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Livonetc
    An almost incredible event.

    Expected event. The parties need a respite for regrouping, supplying troops and further down the list. Then it will blaze with renewed vigor.

    I disagree. It is beneficial for Azerbaijan only in the sense that it achieved the same goal with fewer victims of its soldiers. And so there are no problems, they could fight, especially in the mountains - QUIET. It would not have been a problem to disperse and destroy a herd of reservists from Armenia in an unfamiliar area for them.

    The matter concerns the implementation of the Madrid principles, that is, Armenia is withdrawing its troops from the occupied regions. Khankendi (Stepanakert) is ALREADY controlled by "polite people", so, in principle, peacekeepers are not needed there yet.

    “I hope that after 12 hours we will be able to stop this really serious challenge and the situation that threatens our compatriots. All this has shown that our concerns regarding the physical safety of our compatriots are justified and that threats actually exist. Therefore, the priority in the peaceful settlement was and the security of our compatriots remains.It is important for us to recognize their right to self-determination and its realization, which will also lead to the realization of their right to self-determination, and ensure the reality that they must live freely and decide their own destiny as a unit recognized by all , as independent country"- he stressed.

    Read more: https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/politics/20201010/24844053/Glava-MID-Armenii-raskryl-sut-soglasovannogo-v-Moskve-dokumenta-po-Karabakhu.html

    The Armenian side is lying as usual, no independent country It was NEVER and ANYWHERE specified, and Azerbaijan will NEVER agree to this. But in the light of the new laws, who will undertake to challenge this in Armenia?
    In simple and clear language, this is the CAPITULATION of Armenia and Azerbaijan has achieved its goal - the withdrawal of the occupation troops. It's only about the schedule and timing, and nothing else. Otherwise, hostilities will continue and the Azerbaijani army itself will carry out everything that was suggested by the Madrid principles.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 09: 18
    -1
    Quote: TermNachTER
    Q.E.D. The blitzkrieg failed and Aliyev (Erdogan) quickly "turned on the back" until the next time. I feel sorry for ordinary people

    laughing which was required to be proved, without any blitzkriegs, in conditions when the enemy reliably knew about the beginning of hostilities, the Azerbaijani army HAS BEEN HEADED the Armenian occupying forces, that very great Armenian army, which was kissing in the fifth point all sorts of aspects, talking about some kind of unknown spirit and other fairy tales.

    Not recognizing this and not drawing a conclusion about what happened, again deceiving ourselves and starting to believe in another self-deception, in the end you will face even greater troubles ... Your right, the choice is yours, and we are always ready to either teach a lesson to noise-headed idiots, or live in peace with people who are friends in the head.
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 10 October 2020 09: 49
      -2
      Victorm I have one question for you. That's why, to print the obvious. And the real, how did you need to make a separate nickname on the site? That's all that you printed is reality! Obvious and hard-hitting for fans of fakes, likes and other garbage. This is understandable. what a crowd without fool UryaA gorlopanov are ready to yell in black and white. Why are you not publishing this under your nickname? hiAnd such situations when people are either afraid. Or what I don’t understand in times of crisis is not the first time I meet on the site. After all, it’s clear when there is a crisis where you are not indifferent to it is very difficult to remain indifferent.
    2. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 10 October 2020 12: 15
      +2
      VictorM "Azeri army HAS BEEN HEADED Armenian occupation forces."
      You can immediately see thousands of columns of depressed Armenian prisoners, mountains of military equipment, huge trophies.))) And not 10 broken trucks taken from different points))) Or 10-15 maximum of captured tanks.))) In fact, the progress is small. In some areas we approached the borders of the NKR and how to look))). And then how can a victorious army and a country stop their offensive once they have such grandiose successes?))) Would continue to advance to themselves until complete liberation. And so they gave the enemy a respite. If the enemy really was defeated.))) So not everything is so dashing and victorious there.))) It is clear that the truce is likely not for long, and then we'll see if the NKR Pashinyan merges or not.
  • tech3030
    tech3030 10 October 2020 09: 40
    -1
    Who is Larov?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 10 October 2020 10: 57
      +1
      Georgian currency male
  • APASUS
    APASUS 10 October 2020 09: 42
    0
    Larov achieved a ceasefire between Baku and Yerevan

    In my opinion, still Lavrov! And again this one will give on November 10, can it still be October 10?
  • Kizey
    Kizey 10 October 2020 09: 44
    0
    10th of November??? wait a month ??
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  • Andobor
    Andobor 10 October 2020 09: 50
    +1
    Russia intervened - thank God.
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  • Nuclear_winter
    Nuclear_winter 10 October 2020 10: 02
    +2
    I noticed that S.V. Lavrov looks completely tired. Who will replace him ...
    1. ZEMCH
      ZEMCH 11 October 2020 01: 12
      +1
      Quote: Nuclear_winter
      I noticed that S.V. Lavrov looks completely tired. Who will replace him ...

      Vasily Alekseevich Nebenzya, it seems to me
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 10 October 2020 10: 06
    -2
    rather, the Turks will provoke the parties!
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  • Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 10 October 2020 10: 23
    +1
    Errors begin with the title of the article. And where is the editorial board of "Voenniy Obozreniye" looking ???
    1. tech3030
      tech3030 10 October 2020 10: 59
      +1
      And the illiterate minus me, and God bless them.
    2. icant007
      icant007 10 October 2020 12: 51
      +1
      This is the second edition of the article. The first came out like at the beginning of the seventh, it was much shorter and was called differently)
      In general, the flour of creativity.
      Someone did not like something, in a hurry they redid it)
      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 10 October 2020 12: 56
        0
        Bug fixed.
  • iouris
    iouris 10 October 2020 11: 13
    +1
    Lavrov fought, fought and achieved ... Why, I don’t like the result if "in general." I think the next few hours will show that the "field commanders" did not care about these agreements. Moreover, Turkish.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 11: 32
    -2
    Quote: Senka Naughty
    That's why you brought this b * DECODING VIDEO? What are you decrypting here, Russian into Russian, for Russians?
    There are many deaf and blind ...

    The truce has been in effect for almost half an hour. Until it took effect, or someone's clock was rushing and he relaxed:






    In short, they poured vimpacetin on the track so that they would not forget why the truce was coming, but naive and bad thoughts did not come to mind.
  • Piramidon
    Piramidon 10 October 2020 11: 42
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    Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
    Why don't you tell me left-hand traffic?

    If you rotate the picture 180 degrees horizontally in the video editor (mirror image), then from the right-hand movement we get the left-hand one. Most likely a jamb when editing and editing. Apparently they were in a hurry to lay out.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 11: 43
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    Quote: Observer2014
    Victorm I have one question for you. That's why, to print the obvious. And the real, how did you need to make a separate nickname on the site? That's all that you printed is reality! Obvious and hard-hitting for fans of fakes, likes and other garbage. This is understandable. what a crowd without fool UryaA gorlopanov are ready to yell in black and white. Why are you not publishing this under your nickname? hiAnd such situations when people are either afraid. Or what I don’t understand in times of crisis is not the first time I meet on the site. After all, it’s clear when there is a crisis where you are not indifferent to it is very difficult to remain indifferent.
    Observer-WE, but inattentive wink You have confused resources wink there I did not comment on anything at all, but here I see fresh information and what links to get, and share, and look at the reaction. It used to be much more interesting, I went in when Ukraine was on the agenda, I can't remember either nickname or password laughing Now this resource has become grayer, there are only a few of those who can discuss anything, and just elementary literate people. On the other hand, there are more "masses" of all kinds, and one can clearly see a common opinion for some strata of Russians about how and how they were treated, in what direction they were sent.
    Azerbaijani resources wrote that the Armenians did attract Margosha Simonyan to form an opinion, they allocated a budget / raised about 700 million rubles on the OBS. Let's see what it will achieve, and this resource is a good marker, the "masses" "shod" mass media change their shoes on the fly (sorry for the pun).
  • Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 12: 55
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    The music didn’t play for long ...

    Armenian army attempted an offensive URGENTLY

    13:17

    Despite the agreement to declare a ceasefire at 12:00, the Armenian army attempted an offensive in the direction of Agdere-Terter and Fizuli-Jebrail, the press service of the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry reported.

    At the same time, a number of settlements in Azerbaijan are under artillery fire from the Armenian Armed Forces.

    “All attempts of the enemy's offensive have been successfully suppressed by our units. Adequate measures are being taken against the Armenian army, ”the message says.
    What are Pashinyan and his Masters trying to understand by this? They say "they put it on Uncle Vova," fools, they will wash themselves with blood now ...
    My condolences to the Armenian people, I repeat, you are our neighbors, we cannot get away from each other, but it is better to be robbed by the Karabakh couple Kocheryan-Sargsyan than Pashinyan and his masters who again led you or your children to slaughter.
    Still, how sweet power is, and one's own skin is dearer than any national interests ...
    Most likely, Russia will try to sit down at the negotiating table again, but everything is already clear with this. Azerbaijan was not left with an option other than a war all the way.

    Some, in connection with the appearance a couple of days ago of "polite people" in Khankendi (Stepanakert), already think they may hope to resolve the issue with the help of professional advisers and fantasize further down to the units of the "national" special forces of the GRU. The form is Armenian in "polite", that is, the presence of Russia is not indicated, BUT this is not even one of the possible options. They are capable of a lot, but not for this, apparently there will be more surprises associated with them, but more in their main profile, and there we can only learn about the consequences, and not about actions.

    Hikmet Hajiyev and Jeyhun Bayramov called a press conference

    13:39

    A press conference will be held at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Azerbaijan.

    Aide to the President of Azerbaijan Hikmet Hajiyev and Foreign Minister Jeyhun Bayramov will take part in the press conference at 15:00.
    Apparently, the call to Russia, it is understandable after such a knee, the Armenians will declare "I and I, the cow is not mine," and as a result, then the war will take its course. But Russia washes its hands - and did not refuse from its responsibilities in the CSTO, and here it helped, held the full pants, and once they put it on my words, then "hawai" what smells in the pants.
    1. icant007
      icant007 10 October 2020 13: 11
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      Quote: VictorM
      Despite the agreement to declare a ceasefire at 12:00, the Armenian army attempted an offensive in the direction of Agdere-Terter and Fizuli-Jebrail, the press service of the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry reported.


      Ty, and I thought until Monday weekend)
      And I naively believed that in the morning Azerbaijan would be the first to go to "work".

      And what are these polite people in Stepanakert? I slept a little)
  • Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 13: 10
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    Well, and accordingly, in the direction where the truce was violated, the flogging continued:
  • Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 13: 20
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    Quote: icant007
    Quote: VictorM
    Despite the agreement to declare a ceasefire at 12:00, the Armenian army attempted an offensive in the direction of Agdere-Terter and Fizuli-Jebrail, the press service of the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry reported.


    Ty, and I thought until Monday weekend)
    And I naively believed that in the morning Azerbaijan would be the first to go to "work".

    And what are these polite people in Stepanakert? I slept a little)

    Hay knows him, and they wrote, and they mention him in the Azerbaijani media.


    Destruction of another S-300 launcher today.

    Destruction of the ST-68 radar. This was before the truce began.
  • Isim soyad
    Isim soyad 10 October 2020 13: 29
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    Armenia is flagrantly violating the ceasefire. Despite the agreement to declare a ceasefire at 12:00, the Armenian army attempted to attack in the Aghdar-Terter and Fizuli-Jabrayil directions. At the same time, a number of our settlements are under artillery fire from the armed forces of Armenia.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 13: 35
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    Quote: Isim Soyad
    Armenia is flagrantly violating the ceasefire. Despite the agreement to declare a ceasefire at 12:00, the Armenian army attempted to attack in the Aghdar-Terter and Fizuli-Jabrayil directions. At the same time, a number of our settlements are under artillery fire from the armed forces of Armenia.

    Did you think it would be different? ...
    NOBODY and NEVER will give up the land conquered by weapons and on which his soldiers stand. It is clear that Aliyev did not have a chance to "refuse Uncle Vova's request", everyone remembers that Mother Russia feeds at least a third of the population of Azerbaijan and allows them to make ends meet. In short, the request was fulfilled, to the point of ZERO, so there is nothing to think about ahead.

    Not sure when the borders will open?
  • Ela myaushkina
    Ela myaushkina 10 October 2020 14: 02
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    Fortunately or unfortunately, time will tell. For Armenia, this is a respite and an opportunity to strengthen its remaining positions, regroup, etc. An annoying hindrance and pause for Azerbaijan. In fact, the tasks set for the Azerbaijani Armed Forces have not been fully fulfilled and the whole of Karabakh has not yet been liberated, but only for the 1.4th part somewhere approximately. The war after a short truce will continue further, even more fierce, since a prerequisite is to withdraw its troops from Karabakh, Armenia will not fulfill. This means that the war will continue.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 October 2020 14: 29
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      "For Armenia, this is a respite and an opportunity to strengthen its remaining positions, regroup, etc." Strengthen, do not strengthen - from air strikes it will absolutely not help them in any way, and there is almost no equipment left to regroup; the same is being actively carried from the air.
  • Victorm
    Victorm 10 October 2020 15: 16
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    Hikmet Hajiyev and Jeyhun Bayramov called a press conference

    13:39

    A press conference will be held at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Azerbaijan.

    Aide to the President of Azerbaijan Hikmet Hajiyev and Foreign Minister Jeyhun Bayramov will take part in the press conference at 15:00.

    In the comments of the Azerbaijanis to the video broadcast and the recording of the press conference, where Jeyhun Bayramov spoke about the negotiations and their results, basically only one thing is written - ISTEFA, in Russian RESTORATION.
    If this time the Azerbaijani people are deceived, it is quite possible that fermentation will begin in Azerbaijan.

    At one time, after the April battles, when the bodies of the dead were transported with honor from the front, in the center of the city next to the former Lenin Palace, now named after H. Aliyev, preparations for the traditional annual Flower Festival were carried out as if nothing had happened. In Azerbaijani it is written as GUL BAZARI, in response to the incessant preparations for the holiday at a time when all the people commemorated the dead, a couple of opposition youths wrote down the monument to H. Aliyev with words QUL BAZARI, which means HOLIDAY OF WORKS. In the best Baku traditions, both boys each had a kilogram (!!!) of heroin and both went through the stage as hucksters. At the same time, the population calmly and "with understanding" related to the planting of the opposition, including the pro-Russian one (there was a shop until they slammed it) for a joint in their pocket, which was not there, despite loyalty to Ilham Aliyev, this episode is treated differently .. ...

    Now it is quite an interesting moment, if it will be the REGULAR throw of Azerbaijan, as a result of the REGULAR eleventh negotiations, it may end quite sadly. Having tried to play around, the Armenians will put I. Aliyev in a position where he will have to start waging a war much more abruptly than it has been until now, with general mobilization and to the fullest. That is, the war in case of the Armenians' refusal to withdraw troops from the occupied territories will be more fierce, since right now I. Aliyev, going towards GDP and Russia, put a lot at stake, and not when hostilities began in response to the provocations of the enemy. Russia also has risks, I. Aliyev is not at all pro-Turkish, as they used to write here, but any of his possible opponents from the existing ones is 100% neo-Ottoman ears behind his back.
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  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 11 October 2020 13: 44
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    I wonder what arguments the parties have convinced.