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Erdogan says Armenia is "spoiled"

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Erdogan says Armenia is "spoiled"

The only way to resolve the Karabakh conflict is to completely end the "Armenian occupation" of the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh. This was stated by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.


Speaking at the Turkey-Africa business forum, Erdogan stressed that the uncompromising actions of "spoiled" Armenia turned the conflict into a kind of gangrene, and the only way to end the conflict is to end the "occupation" of these lands by Armenia. He recalled that Nagorno-Karabakh - historical the land of Azerbaijan, which Armenia has occupied for 30 years. At the same time, the Turkish president again stated that Turkey is on the side of Azerbaijan and will support Baku in this conflict.

Turkey wholeheartedly supports Azerbaijan's just struggle for the liberation of its lands

- quotes the Anadolu agency as saying Erdogan.

The Turkish leader did not explain who Armenia is "spoiled" by, most likely this expression meant Russia, but in this case Erdogan should have added that Azerbaijan is also a "spoiled" state, only from Turkey's side. Note that at a time when Moscow declares the need for negotiations, Ankara is openly on the side of Baku.




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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc 9 October 2020 12: 09 New
    +7
    "Speaking at the Turkey-Africa Business Forum, Erdogan"
    So let him speak for Africa.
    1. novel66
      novel66 9 October 2020 12: 29 New
      13
      ugliness! and does not want to end the occupation of the Syrian land? or to return Ararat to the Armenians?
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 9 October 2020 12: 32 New
        +7
        So he is not going to return Cyprus either.
        Turkey is getting away with it.
        So why are they going to change something.
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 9 October 2020 13: 59 New
          0
          At least Erdogan said that there are Turkomans in Syria and he protects them and sneezed at Assad. And that the PKK is his enemies and he will kill them. And if Assad interferes with him, Assad will get it (and got it a couple of times). First, Yerevan needs to recognize the NKR.
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 9 October 2020 23: 44 New
            +3
            if a war on two fronts nevertheless arises, then at the end not one of the Germans, dull with blood and horror, will no longer be able to understand what he was fighting for.
            (c) Otto Bismarck

            This statement is true not only for Germans.
            Erdogan is already opening the third front.
            They praised him in vain. The sultan's roof was blown off by success. Turkey's economy is strong, but any economy will collapse if it is strained more than it can handle.
    2. hrych
      hrych 9 October 2020 12: 31 New
      +2
      At the exit, they gave it a horn in Libya, shuganuli near the Greek islands, in Syria only scraps. What's in the Caucasus? Never mind. The Blitzkrieg failed. The successes against the unfortunate NKR are more than modest. In fact also got into the horn.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 9 October 2020 12: 51 New
        +7
        In fact also got into the horn.

        You wishful thinking very vigorously. Yes, the Turks did not get a really deafening victory anywhere. But they did not suffer any significant defeat anywhere. They are gradually strengthening their positions in the region .. yes, not by blitzkrieg.
        1. yehat2
          yehat2 9 October 2020 13: 38 New
          +3
          Erdogan is energetically looking for opportunities to take the initiative and take some regions under his patronage. This is partly facilitated by the situation - stagnation in the European Union, passivity of the Russian Federation, the United States and China are busy with their own problems. And it turns out that Turkey's activity is not enough, which limits, but there is a certain potential. However, Erdogan scatters his efforts too much, as a result receiving less than he could.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 9 October 2020 14: 12 New
            +1
            However, Erdogan scatters his efforts too much, as a result receiving less than he could.

            I agree with everything except the one highlighted above. He has opportunities in all directions, they all try to use them. At the same time, I have already written a lot about this, expanding its influence mainly by someone else's hands. We will see what the final result will be. But so far everything looks very optimistic for Turkey. Was it possible to do the same in their position more effectively? I will not undertake to judge about it.
        2. hrych
          hrych 9 October 2020 14: 04 New
          0
          Quote: alexmach
          a deafening victory for the Turks did not work anywhere

          And what is the goal? The main goal now is OIL. Syrian oil - shish. Sirte and Libya did not receive, the Greek shelf did not. Now he is eager for Caspian oil. He doesn't need to buy it from Azerbaijan. He needs to take her away from Azerbaijan wassat Therefore, nowhere and how. Turkey, a tourist-dependent economy, an export-dependent economy, and even more so an import-dependent economy, has a kerdyk. The coronavirus blew away tourists, exports fell (not only did the Saudis, Greeks and Armenians boycott goods), and imports, especially hydrocarbons. You have to pay something for this. There is no self-sufficiency at all, except in tomatoes wassat they even buy wheat. Do you think fighting is cheap? An internal war with the Kurds and other stupid adventures without the captured baksheesh is a loss. Putin is using it to the fullest, indulging, etc. This is how the southern flank of NATO cracked and try to find one. laughing
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 9 October 2020 14: 16 New
            -2
            And what is the goal? The main goal now is OIL

            Who told you that this is the goal? What's the only goal?
            1. hrych
              hrych 9 October 2020 14: 26 New
              +1
              And without this, the price of a three hundred thousandth army is worthless, without this Pan-Turkism is useless. These same grant eaters suck from Turkey, but there is no return. How can we revive the Ottoman Empire if Crimea, the North Caucasus and Syria are held by a nuclear superpower? If Libya is not defending frail Egypt, Iraq is not defending frail Iran, capricious Greeks have a commensurate fleet and behind them the EU nuclear superpower. And Jerusalem is not captured by frail Israel. Overlaid by demons on all sides wassat And what is the prospect? Only to sing songs about Pan-Turkism and neo-Ottomanism, but to prepare for an economic catastrophe.
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 9 October 2020 14: 34 New
                0
                And without this, a penny is the price of a three hundred thousandth army, without this, pan-Turkism is useless

                Who told you that? The same pan-Turkism is a project for centuries and not for blitz-krieg. And even from the point of view of the same pan-Turkism, accumulating the controlled territories bit by bit is already a big and important step. And what about oil? Well, no now - it will be like this in 5 years ... or in 15 .. or even 50. Well, it's not just that they are strengthening their positions in all neighboring countries and territories.
                1. hrych
                  hrych 9 October 2020 14: 58 New
                  +2
                  There are no these 5 years. Now there is a tectonic shift. And what a hundred years there. Kemalist Turkey is a hundred years old and has come to its end. They are hated in all neighboring countries and territories. We got caught up with everyone. The nuclear powers are looking closely at how to burn. Ichkeria is destroyed, the Caliphate is destroyed. In Uzbekistan, local Turks were almost massacred. The Tatars are too educated to be led against this blizzard. Therefore, I do not see Turkish success.
                  1. alexmach
                    alexmach 9 October 2020 15: 58 New
                    -2
                    Kemalist Turkey is one hundred years old and close to its collapse

                    Collapse? What a mess, I think they are just now in their prime.
                    Kemalist Turkey has probably not been there for 10 years. Erodogan just buried the Kemalism that did not work and returned to Neo-Ottomanism. And they are only at the beginning of this path. It is not a fact, of course, that they will achieve success on it, but also not the fact that it will be a collapse for them. The Kemalist ideas seem to have failed, and they seem to have created the foundation for modern neo-Ottomanism. Neo-Ottomanism as a concept may not be realized, but the collapse of neo-Ottomanism does not necessarily mean the collapse of Turkey as a state, and it may well create the foundation for some other poor person.
                    They are hated in all neighboring countries and territories.

                    Show me who is not hated in all the neighboring territories? Russians? Evrev? Americans? Maybe God forbid the Ukrainians? Well, at least someone?
                    They got caught up with everyone

                    A consequence of an active foreign policy.
                    Nuclear powers are eyeing how to burn

                    And here, “quite unexpectedly,” that same 300-thousandth arimia turns out to be quite useful.
                    Ichkeria destroyed, the Caliphate destroyed

                    It would seem that what has Turkey to do with it? These were also international projects, at the same time competing with the very same pan-Turkism, and the monarchies of the Gulf played the first violin in them.
                    Therefore, I do not see Turkish success.

                    You don't want to just see the obvious.
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 9 October 2020 19: 41 New
                      -1
                      The Ichkeria project was to throw us away from the Caucasus and the separation of the North Caucasus in favor of Turkey, according to NATO circulars. Further, this project launched the destruction of the Russian Federation and the Volga Khanates, and also became a Turkish protectorate. This is the NATO plan in which pan-Turkism was an integral part. Naturally, the SA also had to be occupied. Therefore, in NATO, it was the Turkish army that was half a million and even more with reserves to devour the Caucasus, Crimea, SA and the Volga region. Moreover, the Turks were not given modern weapons, so as not to bite the owners. To Deng Xiaoping, the West promised Siberia, etc. There are many analogies between the TR and the PRC. As we know, all these plans were not destined to come true. Therefore, the current pan-Turkism is a pitiful aftershock of those times. The Russian Federation held out and went on the attack. And Pan-Turkism is practically dead. Now according to the Caliphate and neo-Ottomanism. It was the Caliphate that was supposed to destroy the statehood of the former territories of the Ottoman Empire. Syria, Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, Iraq and others. Libya was pounded, the Arab revolution took place in Egypt and Tunisia, but everything collapsed in Syria. Iraq withstood, and the contra won in Egypt and Tunisia. Libya did not work either. There is also an overlap in Crimea both in Pan-Turkism and Neo-Ossianism. Pan-Turkism because of the Crimean Tatars, and neo-Ottomanism because of the former Turkish territory. It can be stated that neo-Ottomanism is also dead. As a result, a coup, and even an unsuccessful one, and the six prezik became the Sultan, and the caste that ruled for a century was almost destroyed. Here Erdogan is rushing about according to the past doctrines, between half-dead neo-Ottomanism, Pan-Turkism, Kemalism and growing Islamism. But right now, I repeat, all his thoughts are about oil. As luck would have it, around Turkey and in its former territories, dig up and oil went, and in the metropolis itself - a little shish. Here is neo-Ottomanism and rather turned into petroleumism. wassat
                  2. 72jora72
                    72jora72 10 October 2020 00: 01 New
                    +1
                    Ichkeria destroyed
                    I will disappoint you, Kadyrov will leave, and a war of clans will begin in Chechnya.
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 10 October 2020 09: 11 New
                      +2
                      When will it leave? Where will it go? Who will leave before?
      2. Hypertension
        Hypertension 9 October 2020 13: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: hrych
        At the exit, they gave it a horn in Libya, shuganuli near the Greek islands, in Syria only scraps. What's in the Caucasus? Never mind. The Blitzkrieg failed. The successes against the unfortunate NKR are more than modest. In fact also got into the horn.

        Experience is the son of difficult mistakes. Turkey is now trying to establish itself in the geopolitical arena by trial and error. Will it work? We will see. And the war in Karabakh is not over yet, and it is too early to say "gop".
        1. hrych
          hrych 9 October 2020 14: 11 New
          0
          Quote: Hyperion
          it is too early to say "gop"

          Blitzkrik - gop. CSTO guarantees - gop. To cut through to Azerbaijan and not two states - one people, but one states - two people with one second-rate, again gop. Rather, Baku oil - gop. For money please, but for free - shish. Dead Man's Experience am
          1. Hypertension
            Hypertension 9 October 2020 15: 10 New
            -1
            Was it a blitzkrieg planned? CSTO guarantees - what? Until Armenia is touched, the CSTO does not act. And the war is not over yet. Who knows how it will turn out?
            1. hrych
              hrych 9 October 2020 18: 55 New
              0
              Quote: Hyperion
              Was it a blitzkrieg planned?

              If not, then strategists are worthless. The war of attrition is more fraught with the attacker. Defending is always easier, less resource consumption, etc. And also the weather can be a decisive factor. The same Aliev with an adamant look, but in the eyes it is read, they say, stop me already. Today, reconciliation began in Moscow. In Armenia, there was a state close to panic, when they expected a blow from Turkey. This did not allow the troops to be sent to the aid of the NKR. But when Putin gave guarantees to the CSTO, the air in Yerevan was released ... from the lungs. Also, Putin paused to let Pashinyan get pounded, but without genocide.
              1. Hypertension
                Hypertension 9 October 2020 20: 31 New
                -1
                Quote: hrych
                The war of attrition is more fraught with the attacker.

                Well, what if you don't have the strength and resources for a blitzkrieg, but you want to win? It takes a longer and more bloody way.
                Quote: hrych
                The same Aliev with an adamant look, but in the eyes it is read, they say, stop me already.

                It remains to take your word for it, since I am not strong in physiognomy ...
                Quote: hrych
                Today, reconciliation began in Moscow.

                I don’t know, I don’t know ... They will start for their health, but how will they finish? And Putin likes to "take a pause." Very, do you know a convenient thing when you do not know what to do and what steps to take. Maybe it will somehow resolve itself.
                1. hrych
                  hrych 9 October 2020 20: 40 New
                  +1
                  No, there is a prepared move and even a combination for every chess layout. What do you think that our intelligence did not know about the beginning of the attack by the AzR Armed Forces? At least there are objective controls, i.e. concentration of troops, equipment, etc. And what about radio interception? So no one canceled the intelligence service. What, do we not have our own people in the AzGenshtab? There are both there and in the ArGenstab. After all, everyone studied with us ... Or the brilliant Crimean operation, isn't it spontaneous? This is a developed plan for a possible alignment. It happened and the plan went into action.
                  1. Hypertension
                    Hypertension 9 October 2020 20: 51 New
                    -1
                    Quote: hrych
                    What do you think that our intelligence did not know about the beginning of the attack by the AzR Armed Forces?

                    I knew, I didn't know, what's the difference? If Russia intervenes, it will still be a geopolitical loser. Either he will quarrel with the Armenians, or with the Azerbaijanis and Turks. You think that Putin specifically allowed this conflict to happen in order to teach Pashinyan a lesson. But as they say, all plans go to hell after the outbreak of hostilities. It's easy to release Gin from the bottle, but not easy to drive back.
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 9 October 2020 20: 57 New
                      +1
                      It was Pashinyan, or rather the anti-Russian forces, who were eager to change our base to a NATO one. Apparently, the supply of electronic warfare / air defense systems did not allow the complete defeat of the NKR army. The opponents were allowed to wear down each other, with the imaginary successes of Baku and not the imaginary failures of Pashinyan's cabinet, they made them sit at the table in Moscow. It's not a fact that the battles will subside right away, but a start has been made.
                      1. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 9 October 2020 21: 02 New
                        0
                        Azerbaijanis have felt the taste of small yet victories. I don't think they will be satisfied with some pieces of territory. The fighting will subside, but on condition of the transfer of Karabakh. IMHO of course.
                      2. hrych
                        hrych 9 October 2020 21: 05 New
                        +1
                        Karabakh is definitely not. Bargaining for 7 captured areas. What is taken is nothing. With great losses. One consolation is that the Armenians also suffered significant losses.
                      3. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 9 October 2020 21: 13 New
                        -1
                        If the Azerbaijanis get these 7 regions, then Karabakh will be surrounded from all sides. And the Armenians, finding themselves in such a situation, will eventually leave NKR themselves. What is taken is a springboard. The main lines of defense have been hacked, the Armenian troops are demoralized. Now it will be easier for Azerbaijan to attack.
                      4. hrych
                        hrych 9 October 2020 21: 23 New
                        +1
                        This is just a foothill, mountains ahead, like winter. There is no demoralization, it’s not a matter of Azerbaijan to believe. On the contrary, the bitterness and frenzy of the cornered, although no one has cornered them yet. Well, they will get used to the work of drones. Already started to get used to it. Aliyev has something to declare a victory, i.e. villages destroyed long ago. Well, and imagine a rout that never happened. Now the question is that Armenia has received guarantees from the CSTO. Turkey has been neutralized. And accordingly, the Armenian Armed Forces, and not the Karabakh corps, will enter the battle. They will destroy Ganja, etc. That is fraught. Until this day, Pashinyan appealed to Macron, asked to recognize Karabakh, did not want to go to Moscow ... back. Not wait. His political career in Armenia is over. His party is in flight. Or repaint and hand over the soros, which has begun. Or they will sew it on. In short, we have everything under control.
                      5. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 9 October 2020 21: 28 New
                        -1
                        Quote: hrych
                        Armenia received guarantees from the CSTO

                        What are the guarantees, may I ask? That Russia will stand up when attacking Armenia? So Azerbaijan does not attack Armenia itself, as Pashinyan would like.
                        Quote: hrych
                        In short, we have everything under control.

                        More than once, similar phrases were uttered before everything flew to hell. But, as usual: wait and see. Everything is under control or not.
                      6. hrych
                        hrych 9 October 2020 21: 52 New
                        +1
                        Russia will stand up for an attack on Armenia. And to strike at the Azerbaijanis in Azerbaijan, there is a reason with the barmaley. Naryshkin voiced, the West knows.
                        quote = Hyperion] how everything flew to hell [/ quote]
                        Not with this leader
                      7. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 9 October 2020 22: 27 New
                        -1
                        Quote: hrych
                        And to strike at the Azerbaijanis in Azerbaijan, there is a reason with the barmaley. Naryshkin voiced, the West knows.

                        Voiced? Well done! It is not the first time that we have voiced our concerns ... Russia will not bombard the Barmaleev pointwise. How to isolate them separately from the Azerbaijani soldiers?
                        Quote: hrych
                        Not with this leader

                        But the leader said that as long as he is a leader, the retirement age will not increase ... Everything is under control, - said the leader ...
                      8. hrych
                        hrych 9 October 2020 22: 38 New
                        +1
                        They did not spare the Orthodox and the united ethnic group of Ukrainians and returned Crimea. They did not spare the Orthodox Georgians and tore off Abkhazia and South Ossetia. What devil will Azerbaijanis feel sorry for? The main thing is the geopolitical interests of the state. Nobody will allow Turks, Barmaley and NATO members to the Caspian Sea. Don't even hope. What is all this nonsense about good relations with Azerbaijan? He is not our ally or even a competitor in the hydrocarbon market. It is in our interests that there be highland hemorrhoids and no one will allow ethnic cleansing of Armenians. The elimination of AzR has never been so close in these 30 years. Don't believe me? Ask the Georgians and Ukrainians, they will enlighten you. And blow up one dam and it will wash everything away, then the fish will be fatter in the Caspian Sea wassat
                      9. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 9 October 2020 23: 06 New
                        0
                        Quote: hrych
                        Nobody will allow Turks, Barmaley and NATO members to the Caspian Sea. Don't even hope.

                        Why would I hope for this? I don't drown for Azerbaijanis. Simply facts are stubborn things.
                        Quote: hrych
                        What is all this nonsense about good relations with Azerbaijan?

                        Turkey has good relations with Azerbaijan. And Russia and Turkey have the Turkish Stream, the construction of a nuclear power plant, tourism-tomatoes, the sale of the S-400 and, possibly, a contract for a hundred Su-35. And what about Armenia? She borrows weapons from us. And there is nothing to take from her. The RF also pays for half of the base.
                        Quote: hrych
                        The elimination of AzR has never been so close in these 30 years.

                        Fresh lending. Either the United States is about to fall apart, or Azerbaijan. Why would you? Well, maybe the Aliyev family would have been demolished if not for the war, but collapse?
                        Quote: hrych
                        And blow up one dam and it will wash everything away, then the fish will be fatter in the Caspian Sea

                        First you need to get there. This is the first thing. Secondly: the consequences for Armenians for such actions will be very, very serious ...
                      10. hrych
                        hrych 9 October 2020 23: 23 New
                        +1
                        The division of the AzR between Russia and Iran is inevitable sooner or later. It may not be now, but in the near future. Our rocket will hit the dam as needed. I repeat, the Russian Federation will not allow NATO members, Turks or Barmaleevs near the Caspian. This is a postulate. For his sake, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and others will be destroyed. Crimea, the Caucasian ridge and the Caspian Sea - our security belt. Again, if there is any doubt about the Caspian, watch the battle for the Crimea and the Caucasus Range. If the Ukrainian units had the courage to fight in the Crimea, they would be destroyed. And it is not our fault that the darling was not enough and gave up. Many do not even understand how we defended Venezuela. From whom? They defended themselves from the United States.
                      11. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 10 October 2020 15: 15 New
                        +1
                        Quote: hrych
                        The division of the AzR between Russia and Iran is inevitable sooner or later.

                        What for does the RF need it? We already have enough of this contingent in the markets. And under this wording "sooner or later" anything can be ruined and divided. Protons in atoms will also "sooner or later" decay ... Either let us have at least an approximate time frame so that there is something to talk about, or we will not pretend to be a Wang.
                      12. hrych
                        hrych 10 October 2020 20: 59 New
                        -2
                        First, after the destruction of the Mingechevir reservoir, the number of fish will increase.
                        Secondly, Vanga has a mystic, and we have statistics.
                        The statistics do not name the dates, but we are at the beginning of the section ... Turkey. Always when the state is destroyed, a Gorbachev appears. Moreover, the scheme of work of the state immunity is always similar. There is an attempt at a coup d'etat or the overthrow of this "Gorbachev". Those. if the immune system worked, then the disease remained at the "Khrushchev" stage. Those. the disease was suppressed, but not completely cured. So it was, for example, with Nicholas II, so it was with the Emperor Pu Yi, so it was with Abdul-Hamid II, etc. This global Gorby attacks the foundation, the bonds of the State. Therefore, Erdogan is a typical Gorbachev. The immunity worked, but Putin intervened and saved him 10 minutes before liquidation. As a result, the bonds of Kemalist Turkey were destroyed. There are no braces, the State is doomed. Let's digress a little from Erdogan wassat Probably the rumor was that oil remained for 20-30 years at the current level of consumption. And as for evil, the largest safety stocks, i.e. not mined, but discovered, these are Iran and Venezuela. And Russia is one of the leaders' triumvirate. Koi USA, SA and RF. The next in the ranking in terms of production is three times less than the leaders. And the three leaders produce 40% of all oil. But for the consumption of the United States, the same amount is needed as is produced in the United States. Let's just say that the United States virtually eats up all the oil in the CA. What is it for? These are 20-30 years at the level of consumption of all. And if not all, say the Golden Billion and Russia, then it will be enough for 50-70 years, and there you look and new sources will appear. As evil in the Russian Federation have already appeared. In short, large consumers who are given over to world consumer goods, dirty production and just production due to cheap labor will have to be cut. So that they stop eating big oil. In Asia, the largest is China, in Europe it is Turkey. And Trump's phenomenon is the signal. Therefore, he rolls on the Chinese in full and on the Turks less. The best way to destroy a power is to dismember. The mechanism has been worked out, but must rule ... Gorbachev. I think I explained it clearly wassat Ah, the timing ... the next 5-10 years. Now Covid has cut oil consumption, but not enough.
                      13. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 10 October 2020 21: 14 New
                        0
                        By the way, about Venezuela ... Have you not read, what kind of a terrible situation was this country we saved in?
                        Inflation in Venezuela has exceeded 1% since the beginning of the year
                        In annual terms, the price increase amounted to 3%
                        https://tass.ru/ekonomika/9669941
                        And it's time to forget about oil. Even now it costs a little, and in the near future it will cost even less. It's time to get off the oil needle ...
                      14. hrych
                        hrych 10 October 2020 21: 20 New
                        +1
                        Venezuela is under siege, nothing will cope. Reorient the tankers and everything will work out. There is a specific oil and there are several refineries in the world for it. At the US refinery there was a calculation and now a boycott. There the bonds of the Chavist state survived, because they are, and Russia only slightly helped and insured. When the clamps hold one, and if not, at least help yourself, it will still collapse.
                      15. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 10 October 2020 21: 29 New
                        +1
                        Again you will be fine, but in the future. Everything will work out, everything is under control ...
                        Quote: hrych
                        At the US refinery there was a calculation and now a boycott.

                        Themselves evil Pinocchio. Well, who will now build a refinery for their sulfuric oil? Who will need it - to contact the unpredictable banana Latin American country, which, if not a revolution, then a coup?
                        How will they get out now? Will Russia give a free loan again? I won't be surprised, to be honest. How much money have already been given to all Lumumbas ...
                      16. hrych
                        hrych 10 October 2020 21: 32 New
                        +1
                        The Indians will take it away. Suitable for them. Consumer reorientation - time. Nothing will last. Now the United States is not up to them, its own super dismantling.
                      17. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 10 October 2020 21: 38 New
                        +1
                        Quote: hrych
                        The Indians will take it away. Suitable for them.

                        I looked on the map the distance from Venezuela to India. About 15 kilometers. Transportation will cost a pretty penny ...
                        They might hold out. But Russia will not see a loan ...
                      18. hrych
                        hrych 10 October 2020 21: 40 New
                        +1
                        Don't give a damn about money, there's more at stake here. And in general, money time is running out. Oil is the main money, the main commodity and the desire of losers, such as the Turkish Gorby wassat
                      19. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 10 October 2020 21: 47 New
                        +1
                        Quote: hrych
                        Don't give a damn about money, there's more at stake here.

                        Well yes. It is a brilliant idea to donate funds that could be spent on medicine or scientific research for the Russians to some chauffeur from Venezuela. Maybe we will have a base there, in the underbelly of the United States, eh? Or even you are not that optimistic?
                        Quote: hrych
                        Oil is the main money, the main commodity and the desire of losers, such as the Turkish Gorby

                        OPEC admits the end of the oil era for developed countries.
                        "The recovery of demand for oil in the world in the short and long term will occur at the expense of developing countries. For developed countries, the era of oil is already over, in the next five years, oil consumption in them will fall by 1,1 million barrels per day."
                      20. hrych
                        hrych 10 October 2020 21: 55 New
                        +1
                        Well, well, the OPEC countries were asked here. There was an OPEC country - Libya, there was an OPEC country - Iraq. Why then were they smacked and their opinions were not asked if oil is not needed? Afghan? This is how NATO came in to prevent the construction of an oil pipeline from Iran to the PRC. All wars of the 21st century are wars for oil. Did the Russian Federation conquer the Caucasus and the Crimea. And in Syria, there is also an oil shelf with an open field with a margin like half of Saudi Arabia.
                      21. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 10 October 2020 22: 03 New
                        +1
                        Quote: hrych
                        And in Syria, there is also an oil shelf with an open field with a margin like half of Saudi Arabia.

                        The skin of an unkilled bear. Explore this stock, drill wells, restore Syria from the ruins, find buyers ... And then sell it for only 40 bucks per barrel.
                        Here SP-2 still can't sell to Europe, what other Syrian shelves? After all, you will also not be able to name the approximate dates when this good will fall from the cornucopia. What are we talking about then? Bright future as always.
                      22. hrych
                        hrych 10 October 2020 22: 36 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        Bright future as always.

                        The main thing is that we do not pump, but that they DO NOT pump. SP-2 will also wait. Where are you in a hurry? This is not for us to rush. Poseidon is finishing his trials with us. They need to hurry. The future is that we were able to complete the rearmament. Yes, largely thanks to oil and the blessed years. But the self-sufficiency of food by Putin's agricultural holdings, the self-sufficiency of defense and resources. There is no such country. We have the largest and strongest country. Do you doubt it? wassat Therefore, there is a direct prospect of a brighter future. And you stay with your opinion, what is to me laughing
                      23. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 11 October 2020 13: 41 New
                        +1
                        Quote: hrych
                        Therefore, the direct prospect of a bright future.

                        You won't be full of the prospect. What rearmament? Fight off with Poseidon alone? If there were Armata, Kurgan and Su-57 - then yes, it could be argued about rearmament. Because Russia is, first of all, strong in its land army.
                        But we have already moved far from the topic. This debate can be continued indefinitely. Especially when you live in a bright future, and I live in a harsh present.
                      24. hrych
                        hrych 11 October 2020 22: 10 New
                        +1
                        What are the Kurgan people? Rearmament is more than a hundred Yars. This is a huge number of Iskander, Bastion and S-400. These are the Su-34 and Su-35. These are Boreas and Ash. This is the massive weapon of Diesel and Watchdogs with the entire Caliber line. This is the resumption of the assembly of Tu-22M3 and Tu-160. These are X-32, X-101/102. This is KS-172. This is the Mi-28. And the massive modernization of the best examples of Soviet technology, like the Mi-31BM, Mi-24 and wonderful tanks, of which the Ministry of Defense has more on its balance sheet than the PRC and the United States combined. These are more than 140 military satellites. These are ZGRLS Container and Sunflower. This is a radar early warning system Voronezh. Here is the harsh present. And no longer the future, but the present - these are Dagger and Peresvet, which are already in operation. And the very near future, and the inevitable, is Sarmat, Vanguard, Zircon, Poseidon, Petrel, S-500 and Nudol. That's what rearmament is. And the bright future is a planetary aircraft with an ion engine and a nuclear power plant, which is carried by the Peresvetov quantum emitter and burns all NATO satellites and enemy warheads. So they are already assembling the planetary spacecraft, the Keldyshevites have already completed the test of the ion engine, and Kiriyenko, on a wide chest, received a star for a compact nuclear power plant of high power, and the Peresvet emitter guards the ICBM mines.
                      25. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 12 October 2020 14: 29 New
                        +1
                        Quote: hrych
                        which is carried by the Peresvetovsky quantum emitter burns all NATO satellites and enemy warheads.

                        If someone here and burns, then only you. wink According to rumors (since the performance characteristics of Peresvet are classified), it is designed to illuminate the UAV's optics. And you are going to burn them satellites and warheads. What kind of impulse does it take to hit a warhead (Minuteman 3 LGM-30G) at Mach 23? Even the power of YSU Peresvet is not known to the public.
                      26. hrych
                        hrych 12 October 2020 17: 28 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        If someone here and burns, then only you.

                        Of course, when there are no arguments, then it is better to get personal and be rude wassat Secrecy is good, but I am not inventing it either, but relying on sources. Here, in particular, on VO it was:
                        https://topwar.ru/167342-sekrety-kompleksa-peresvet-kak-ustroen-rossijskij-lazernyj-mech.html
                        Recalling the statement by the Deputy Minister of Defense of Russia Yuri Borisov in last year's interview with the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper (“Laser systems have entered service, which make it possible to disarm a potential enemy and hit all those objects that serve as a target for the laser beam of this system. Our nuclear scientists have learned to concentrate energy necessary to defeat the enemy's corresponding weapons practically in moments, in a matter of fractions of a second "), we can say that the Peresvet BLK is equipped not with a small-sized nuclear reactor feeding the laser with electricity, but with a laser reactor, in which fission energy is directly converted into laser radiation.

                        What complex entered service? Of course Peresvet. Nuclear guys, not just who. Who makes Peresvet? Of course, the Sarov nuclear center. And if you are at least a little educated, then you understand that for illumination of the optics of high-power IR detectors and overall installation is not required, and Peresvet is not a frail device. In addition to the opening main device, the quantum emitter itself has a telescope-sight and a slightly smaller tube and a laser designator slightly deeper than the optics. This laser designator, by the way, is powerful enough, according to its dimensions, and would be enough to illuminate optical detectors even in low-orbit satellites.

                        You can even try it yourself, take a laser pointer and about a hundred meters away, if you want to shine at point-blank range in your eye and you will understand that the optical satellite detector, which is more sensitive than the eye, and even with a lens, will not be able to fulfill its task. These are orbiting telescopes aimed at the earth like this. But, in order to burn through the warhead, and also, unlike an anti-missile, also click on false targets, which, as it were, do not differ from the BB in guidance devices, the energy must be good. A powerful laser burns through metal and any material on the ground. Haven't you heard of laser cutting? What problems? And 23 Machi or Zhuzhi is not important. For optics, this is an increasing asterisk because it flies to the installation itself, and moves slowly to the side. Learn sonny wassat Don't write to me again. I've spent enough time on you. And ... apparently in vain wassat
                      27. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 12 October 2020 22: 18 New
                        +1
                        Quote: hrych
                        Don't write to me again. I've spent enough time on you. And ... apparently in vain

                        It is also a question of who spent their time on whom. In the next branch, you showed yourself perfectly as a "specialist" in YSU (in a dialogue with Stepanov), and here as an uncultured person. I was just joking, and you broke off the chain - you, yes you. Point yourself with a laser pointer somewhere.
                      28. hrych
                        hrych 12 October 2020 22: 37 New
                        +1
                        So what? I did not understand my opponent, I was more busy with Karabakh, and then I was distracted by the YSU. I read it carefully and recognized it. Can't you make a mistake? wassat I crushed you here with arguments wassat Disagree about a hundred yars? Or is Borisov not your authority? wassat You began to be rude and continue to be rude, I'm not going to be like you.
                      29. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 13 October 2020 00: 01 New
                        +1
                        Did you remove the lines about the cons?

                        Realized that you are behaving like a child? He has a higher rating. Well done, I collected it for 8 years, from the same gifted. You cannot press down with any arguments. You pass off your wishlist as reality. It's useless to argue with such stubborn fanatics.
                        ZY A boycott through O is written. I haven't learned to write correctly in my native (native?) Language, but you are talking about space technologies.
                        З.З.Ы. And after all, I did not put two minuses, but more. I walked all over the branch. Therefore, I erased part of the comment. On the avatar - Svyatoslav, who honestly warned enemies - "I'm going to you", and you naughty on the sly. It must be a shame, bastard. No.
                      30. hrych
                        hrych 13 October 2020 07: 20 New
                        +2
                        What do you want? Why are you bothering me? If I want and as I see you, I will minus. What else can I shit for you wassat And I have no shame. You get disadvantages because you are rude and the comments are stupid. I also managed to throw a stone towards the others. There are no facts and no arguments in your writings. I gave you an example of rearmament. This is not true? A hundred Yars is not enough for you? You saywassat But Crimea is ours, not yours. I walked along the branch and instructed everyone, as I liked, who are the pros, who are the minuses. You minuses for your stupid and boorish comments. Keep checking my errors, I'm not sorry. I do not pretend to be literate. This is not a site for young lovers of language. I spanked and forgot. Right or wrong, what's the difference. It was my words that agitated you that you probably cannot calm down and eat. Baykot from the word cat bayun wassat Is that okay? This is a man-eating cat. He lulls the traveler with speeches and eats. Svyatoslav's phrase is not a chivalrous gesture, but an element of psychological warfare. So that the enemy from his glorious name is cracked with fear. Even that you did not understand. And so he became enlightened. Learned about a hundred yars and a nuclear laser. I managed to enlighten you on PVL. Therefore, go in peace, Enlightened IN.
                      31. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 13 October 2020 09: 57 New
                        +1
                        Quote: hrych
                        What do you want? Why are you bothering me?

                        Communicated normally. I asked something, you answered. But yesterday, apparently, he decided to recoup me for the embarrassment in the YSU. Why should I go to you? I thought you were an adequate person. Now it is clear who you are and what you are. He enlightened me about the laser ... He picked up from three boxes about the development, the performance characteristics of which not every professional military observer knows.
                        Quote: hrych
                        If I want and as I see you, I will minus.

                        And this is already punishable by the rules of the site.
                      32. hrych
                        hrych 13 October 2020 12: 34 New
                        +2
                        I gave you a quote where Borisov blabbed about the laser. Moreover, the article was published on VO. In my reasoning, I rely on his words. No more information. And of course it is clear that this is too powerful a quantum generator just for the illumination of optical devices. I didn’t like that you said that only I was burning here. Before that, they seemed to really communicate normally. Of course I will not minus, since it is so important. laughing
                      33. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 13 October 2020 13: 01 New
                        +1
                        Quote: hrych
                        And of course it is clear that this is too powerful a quantum generator just for the illumination of optical devices.

                        Perhaps this is the power reserve in case of fog or snowfall, which is a problem for the laser.
                        Well, since you boasted of a high rating, it turns out - it is important. Maybe in 7-8 years I will also minus those who I did not like. Power corrupts.
                      34. hrych
                        hrych 13 October 2020 17: 49 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        Power corrupts.

                        And absolute ... absolutely laughing
                        Three pluses to you in compensation for damage wassat
                        Peresvet was immediately thrown into the ICBM guard. US spy satellites have confirmed this. And the fortune-telling began. They say, when deploying mobile Yars, they light up the satellites so that they do not fix the deployment area. Everything is logical, of course. But so huge. What for? The Americans have a quantum emitter in similar dimensions, anti-drone and anti-anti-ship missiles. But they only came out on mobility within the ship. When it is foggy with snow and the satellite does not see anything. There's no point. The problem was always not the most powerful quantum emitter, namely, the equipment that provided it. Arrester battery and energy source. We put it into the Il-76, and they were able to put it into the Boeing. But all this was not pleasant, little sense. And you do not constantly fly, even for the USA. That on our ship the laser could hit targets, but within the horizon, including the burning of another ship, but also did not like it. Here they are against drones and CD, which in fact are also drones, only more advanced ones on ships are trying. Here Israel is concerned, wants to connect to the topic. Today in the feed. And our mobile came out within the truck. Well, Borisov. And he is, as it were, not a blogger or even an expert, but an official at the highest level in the Ministry of Defense and then in the Government.
                      35. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 13 October 2020 20: 36 New
                        +1
                        Be that as it may, Peresvet is a dark horse. There was no official demonstration of the work and the characteristics were not announced. Borisov's half-hints only fuel interest, but do not satisfy curiosity.
                        Quote: hrych
                        Here Israel is concerned, wants to connect to the topic. Today in the feed.

                        I read. Now this business will be forced by all more or less developed countries, tk. UAVs and loitering ammunition must be countered.
                        Quote: hrych
                        I removed all the minuses, it turns out who put them, can remove them.

                        This is superfluous ... But thanks anyway. hi
                    2. hrych
                      hrych 13 October 2020 17: 55 New
                      +2
                      I removed all the minuses, it turns out who put them, can remove them. laughing Immediately the rank rose hi
  • 72jora72
    72jora72 10 October 2020 00: 03 New
    0
    And Putin likes to "take a pause"
    In Donbass, this pause has been "dragged on" for 6 years already .....
    1. Hypertension
      Hypertension 10 October 2020 15: 18 New
      0
      Quote: 72jora72
      In Donbass, this pause has been "dragged on" for 6 years already .....

      By the way, yes. A vivid illustration of the "strategy" of GDP. A cunning plan, so to speak ...
  • Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 9 October 2020 13: 23 New
    +2
    At the exit, they gave it a horn in Libya, shuganuli near the Greek islands, in Syria only scraps. What's in the Caucasus? Never mind. The Blitzkrieg failed. The successes against the unfortunate NKR are more than modest. In fact also got into the horn.

    Alas, Turkey has a large reserve just to beat the horns, it is tolerable for her, but if the horns are beaten off, then it would be more comfortable for everyone in the region.
    1. hrych
      hrych 9 October 2020 14: 07 New
      0
      Quote: Pavlos Melas
      large reserve

      The problem, or rather the impending catastrophe in the economy, and pushes him to these adventures .. this.
      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 9 October 2020 14: 26 New
        +1
        The problem, or rather the impending catastrophe in the economy, and pushes him to these adventures .. this.
        Yes it is true, the Turkish lira is falling but the Turks still have time to maneuver. Moreover, the Turkish population is used to living in cramped economic conditions. Plus, this population is quite patriotic and ready to make sacrifices. It is necessary to hit on Turkey so that it was sensitive. Kurds will be a serious problem when there is confusion and vacillation. So there is still a reserve.
        1. hrych
          hrych 9 October 2020 14: 32 New
          0
          No one wants to make sacrifices. There, besides the Kurds, there are Alawites, there are secret Armenians and Greeks who pretend to be Muslims for centuries. There are many Gulenists, there are Islamists, etc. A tangle of contradictions and just smell of fried, then all this will come out.
          1. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 9 October 2020 15: 34 New
            +3
            No one wants to make sacrifices. There, besides the Kurds, there are Alawites, there are secret Armenians and Greeks who pretend to be Muslims for centuries. There are many Gulenists, there are Islamists, etc. A tangle of contradictions and just smell of fried, then all this will come out.
            Yes, there are many minorities in Turkey. Alevis, as I read about 15 percent, are descendants of Iranian Turkmens and partly Kurds, for example, they are patriots of Turkey. They simply do not like Ertogan, they consider themselves Kemalists. There are enough Georgians there, according to unofficial data, about 7 million; they are Muslims, many of them do not know the language, but they retained their self-consciousness. So Turkey's minor problems are permissible. A strong shock is needed to set these masses in motion.
  • askort154
    askort154 9 October 2020 12: 37 New
    +4
    Livonetc .. "Speaking at the Turkey-Africa Business Forum, Erdogan "
    So let him speak for Africa.


    It was he who made a "message" to Putin, on his proposal - to put Aliyev and Pashinyan at the table in Moscow.
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 9 October 2020 12: 53 New
      +2
      Already in Moscow.
      But not Aliyev and Pashinyan, but ministers.
      The current leaders of Azerbaijan and Armenia will most likely never meet in person.
  • Oquzyurd
    Oquzyurd 9 October 2020 13: 21 New
    -4
    Meanwhile
    A large amount of enemy military equipment was destroyed and captured. The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan reports this.

    Other armored vehicles left by the enemy on the battlefield were captured by our units in working order.

    Our army continues to deliver precise strikes against enemy military targets and military equipment.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh4u3PzQiGA&feature=emb_logo
    1. Stavros
      Stavros 9 October 2020 13: 34 New
      +2
      Oguz, let's go for the sixth day, where is the surrender of the Armenian troops?
      So we will write it down, oguz ... dobol)
      1. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 9 October 2020 13: 41 New
        -4
        We have been waiting 27 years that we won't wait an extra week chtol? By the way, why would it be ...) Today, 13.37
        The successful counter-offensive operation of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces forced the Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan, who thwarted the negotiations, to declare his readiness to resume the peace process to resolve the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh. TASS reports.
        1. Stavros
          Stavros 9 October 2020 14: 11 New
          +3
          You are so fucked up that you even forget what you are writing about. Didn't you say here that in three or four days the Armenians will get lost.
          I remember your Field Marshal Aliyev, in general he promised to drive teas in Yerevan in a week. How much arrogance and show off Ilham had, they say, let Pashinyan go one on one. And here you have a grunt, in your ranks and Turks and barmaley.
          Well, TASS, a little lied to Pashinyan's speech, if you want you can make sure for yourself, unless of course you are also not brainwashed by Aliyev's propaganda.
    2. Livonetc
      Livonetc 9 October 2020 13: 44 New
      0
      Quote: Oquzyurd
      Meanwhile
      A large amount of enemy military equipment was destroyed and captured. The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan reports this.

      Other armored vehicles left by the enemy on the battlefield were captured by our units in working order.

      Our army continues to deliver precise strikes against enemy military targets and military equipment.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh4u3PzQiGA&feature=emb_logo

      Jeyhun, Hello!

      Surely, summary reports on the results of the operation in Karabakh are being published in Azerbaijan.
      Please share the summary intermediate information:
      How many enemy equipment and manpower were destroyed?
      What percentage of the territories of Karabakh have been conquered?

      hi
      1. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 9 October 2020 16: 32 New
        -1
        Nothing is published. Aliyev said that in the end they will tell about everything, about our losses too. They publish only about those killed among the civilian population. I think they are doing the right thing.
  • Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 9 October 2020 12: 11 New
    +3
    The sultan's roof is not something that has gone - she has left at all ... If there is a doctor, tell me the diagnosis.
    1. iouris
      iouris 9 October 2020 12: 23 New
      +1
      Anamnesis: "Dissolution of the USSR. Diagnosis - a chronic crisis of the world order in the acute phase. Treatment: surgery without anesthesia."
  • Alien From
    Alien From 9 October 2020 12: 11 New
    0
    The sultan became somewhat impudent, apparently instead of cookies they promised a cake ...
    1. novel66
      novel66 9 October 2020 12: 30 New
      +1
      oh those cakes ... with a newbie ...
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 9 October 2020 12: 34 New
        0
        Not an eyebrow, but an eye))) you can't say more precisely
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 9 October 2020 12: 23 New
    +3
    Something this king has completely lost his place, a local street gopnik, until he gets in the snout and will be a greyhound.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 9 October 2020 12: 28 New
    +2
    The Sultan bends his line. That's right, in general ...
    Let's see what happens in him .... although it is more reasonable, he w.ch. and stuff the wheels! oh also overclocked ...
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 9 October 2020 12: 29 New
    +2
    Say what you like, but Erdogan is handsome ..
    He shoots down our planes, he squabbles with the States, buying the S-400, he bites into Europe .. Syria, Armenia .. does not hesitate to poke his nose anywhere ..
    At the same time, he does not even receive any sanctions .. tomatoes are not counted ..
    In terms of the number of mentions of Turkey in the press, and given their military potential, they play an increasingly significant role on the world stage ..
    And they declare their intentions directly and openly !!
    And what's important - you can't stomp on it, and you won't call it on the carpet ..
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 9 October 2020 12: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: Roman070280
      they play an increasingly important role on the world stage

      What is the world arena? All their activities are directly on their borders in a very limited region.
      1. Roman070280
        Roman070280 9 October 2020 13: 15 New
        0
        Well, why should he meddle in Mexico ..
        This "limited" region takes up quite a few minds ..
        We, too, do not shake the whole world .. but everyone loves to declare Russia as a great power influencing the whole world .. Although in essence it is Ukraine, yes Syria ..
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 9 October 2020 13: 29 New
        -2
        first of all, you limited them very much - you didn't outline Greece, Bulgaria, Germany ...

        And secondly .. well, yes, just a limited region ... including only 3 continents.
      3. pytar
        pytar 9 October 2020 14: 02 New
        +1
        What is the world arena? All their activities are directly on their borders in a very limited region.

        This is the zone of their military activity, for now ... Turkey has several military bases abroad - Qatar, Avalon / Albania /, Suakin Island in Sudan, North Cyprus, Somalia, Iraq, Syria, etc. Turkey has a military presence in 10 countries on 3 continents.
        And this is how they imagine the "great Turan", combining at the same time the ideologies of Pan-Turkism and Pan-Islamism.




        Here for the most modest option!
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 9 October 2020 14: 30 New
          +1
          It is not intentions that matter, but potential.
          I do not see such forces behind Turkey as the conductor of the US and British forces, yes. Strengthening in Central Asia to counterbalance China and Russia is quite possible, strengthening forces in Africa is a fait accompli. Some new bloc a la Islamic-Turkic European Union / NATO is quite possible. But these are alliances and are heavily influenced by the United States and Britain. Military economic counterbalance to the European Union, Saudis, China, Iran and Russia. The principle of divide and conquer remains relevant.
  • Master
    Master 9 October 2020 12: 30 New
    -3
    By whom Armenia is "spoiled", the Turkish leader did not explain, most likely this expression meant Russia

    The author, how do you know. What did he mean Russia? Or is it your guess?
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 9 October 2020 12: 32 New
      -1
      most likely
  • Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 9 October 2020 12: 32 New
    +2
    Ankara is openly on the side of Baku.

    It would be strange if Ankara was on the side of Yerevan.
    Not a bad analysis of the situation from Sergey Markedonov
  • Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 9 October 2020 12: 35 New
    -2
    The Sultan has what is on his mind is in his language. But at least you know what to expect from him. But the powers that be are only mumbled under their breath that something about a ceasefire and a negotiating table. But it seems that everything has decided to leave Armenia and Azerbaijan on their own. to resolve the conflict by military means. Whoever wins, that and Karabakh.
  • 9 Shaft
    9 Shaft 9 October 2020 12: 38 New
    +3
    Apparently Erdogan did not look in the mirror for a long time, but when he looked, he saw exactly what he was talking about, referring to others ...
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 October 2020 12: 38 New
    +2
    Who has been spoiled is Erdogan, who gets away with everything, because The United States, at best, threatens with a finger, and Europe, with the exception of France, generally keeps quiet. And he perfectly uses this to his advantage. Already Turkish ambitions exceed the possibilities, but still want something more.
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 9 October 2020 12: 44 New
    +4
    The only way to resolve the Karabakh conflict is to completely end the "Armenian occupation" of the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh. This was stated by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
    So they will cut ...
  • Victorm
    Victorm 9 October 2020 13: 33 New
    -1
    Who is “spoiled” by Armenia
    This means that in a number of cases, on UN and OSCE resolutions, the ink of the signatures does not have time to dry, as blows are already being struck or sanctions are imposed, and in the case of Armenia this is nothing and never happened, which gave rise to a feeling of impunity, a feeling of being chosen and belonging to the club "white sahibs". And even now, contrary to international law, everyone supports her in every possible way, there was not a single call to withdraw troops, etc. on the part of at least one defender of international law and human rights, who has leveled no country under this sauce.
  • yehat2
    yehat2 9 October 2020 13: 41 New
    +2
    Quote: Oquzyurd
    Our army continues to deliver precise strikes against enemy military targets and military equipment.

    hail with cluster charges over Stepanakert is especially good.
    just unmistakably mows the military there.
  • yehat2
    yehat2 9 October 2020 14: 14 New
    +2
    Quote: alexmach
    they all try to use them

    ends up wreaking havoc without any visible benefit to Turkey
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 9 October 2020 15: 58 New
    +5
    He recalled that Nagorno-Karabakh is the historical land of Azerbaijan, which has been occupied by Armenia for 30 years.
    Something on the maps of the II century BC and IX AD, I can't find Turkey. Yes, I remember the kingdom of Urartu, Azerbaijan was, well, about the Oguz-Turkmens, later renamed Oguz-Turks, they began to speak only in the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries. Can Erdogan return the historical lands of Armenia?
  • Kushka
    Kushka 9 October 2020 16: 00 New
    -2
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Who has been spoiled is Erdogan, who gets away with everything, because The United States, at best, threatens with a finger, and Europe, with the exception of France, generally keeps quiet. And he perfectly uses this to his advantage. Already Turkish ambitions exceed the possibilities, but still want something more.

    Turkey is, I would say, talented in this.
    Well, here's how in WWII never set foot in German
    soldier to Turkish soil, and the Turks escaped
    participation in WWII ????? After all, everything was burning on the right,
    and on the left, and in general around and everyone got it. AND
    Turkey came out dry from the water.
  • georggy
    georggy 9 October 2020 17: 02 New
    +1
    The Turk played himself out of impunity.
  • svoit
    svoit 9 October 2020 23: 58 New
    0
    Quote: novel xnumx
    or to return Ararat to the Armenians?

    So it seems that they do not want, I have never heard that the Armenians would put forward and demanded the de-occupation of their native land
  • NF68
    NF68 11 October 2020 16: 26 New
    +1
    How would you not finish badly.