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Putin called for a ceasefire in Karabakh. Foreign ministers of Azerbaijan and Armenia invited to Moscow

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Russian President Vladimir Putin addressed the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan in connection with the ongoing armed conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh. The news of Vladimir Putin's appeal to Ilham Aliyev and Nikol Pashinyan was published on the Kremlin website.


Recall that clashes and shelling of settlements in the region have been going on for the second week, with the sides declaring large losses, attributing them exclusively to the enemy.

Vladimir Putin, as noted by the press service of the head of state, held telephone talks with the Azerbaijani president and the Armenian prime minister and, following these conversations, urged both to stop hostilities looking in the zone of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

From the report:

The Russian President called on the parties to exchange prisoners and bodies of the dead.

It became known that the heads of the foreign ministries of Armenia and Azerbaijan have been invited to the capital of Russia today to hold consultations and carry out the mediation mission of the Russian Foreign Ministry.

There is no information yet on whether Zohrab Mnatsakanyan and Jeyhun Bayramov will arrive in Moscow. If consultations take place, it could put an end to the round of armed conflict that is observed today.

Let us remind that earlier the head of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev stated that no negotiations could be in principle until the Armenian troops leave the occupied Azerbaijani territories.
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 9 October 2020 06: 04
    +6
    Putin calls for ceasefire in Karabakh
    Will they obey?
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 9 October 2020 06: 10
      12
      Invited for today. In the morning you can hear from every iron. By the evening we will see who will be and, most importantly, what our conditions will be announced. otherwise Leopoldovskoe is sick and tired.
      1. hrych
        hrych 9 October 2020 08: 35
        +1
        Quote: NDR-791
        zadolbalo Leopoldovskoe

        Do you remember "Ozverin" wassat At 07.08.99 and 08.08.08 they were accepted, at 20.02.14 they were accepted. Therefore, Leopold is multifaceted laughing
        1. iouris
          iouris 9 October 2020 20: 31
          -1
          Exactly. You can shoot a cartoon about how VVP with Lavrov make peace between Azerbaijan and Armenia and take Erdogan under the wing.
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 9 October 2020 06: 31
      +4
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Obey

      I think yes. In any case, there will be an attempt. There is already a lot of blood, and the results are not obvious ... the attacker realized that the goals of a decisive victory were still far away. And there will be 10 times more victims.
    3. fif21
      fif21 9 October 2020 06: 55
      +5
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Will they obey?

      laughing If Soras and the Sultan are allowed. wassat
      1. hrych
        hrych 9 October 2020 08: 18
        -4
        Now it is no longer Soros and not the Sultan, when Volando joined ... the one who cannot be named. Does Soros have nuclear weapons? No, only rabid maydauns. Does the Sultan have nuclear weapons? No, just mad barmaley. Yesterday one young and promising sorosen was removed from the National Security Service of Armenia, and Naryshkin called Aliyev an accomplice of the terrorists (between the lines). We see how Armenia is being trained, and a whip was prepared for Aliyev. The negotiations will be constructive.
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 9 October 2020 09: 03
        0
        Quote: fif21
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Will they obey?

        laughing If Soras and the Sultan are allowed. wassat

        Not allowed, and to obey for both presidents means signing a political death. It's too late, but there are too many players in the conflict. Further, not everything depends on Baku and Yerevan.
    4. Civil
      Civil 9 October 2020 07: 35
      -6
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Putin calls for ceasefire in Karabakh
      Will they obey?

      Yesterday there were still reports that both sides asked for an armistice in the Minsk group. Apparently they solved the issue. Well, the main thing is to lead the process on a white horse.
      1. Evil543
        Evil543 9 October 2020 07: 55
        +1
        Some of them ran out of drones, while others had air defense. But the heat dies down.
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 9 October 2020 09: 16
          0
          “Some have run out of drones, while others have air defense. But the heat is dying down.” I would not say. Night operations speak of the opposite. The Armenians must withdraw the Armed Forces from the territory of Azerbaijan, they will be livelier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WBGiTLE3IQ&feature=emb_logo
        2. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 9 October 2020 09: 22
          -1
          During yesterday's military operation, as a result of the fire strike of the Azerbaijan Army, the headquarters of the 5th Mountain Rifle Regiment of the Armenian Armed Forces was destroyed. As a result of the shelling, the Chief of Staff of the 10th Mountain Rifle Division, Colonel Samvel Grigoryan, who was in the building, was seriously wounded, the chief of the regiment's artillery, Lieutenant Colonel Arman Dermeyan, and a large number of servicemen were killed.

          The personnel of the military units of the armed forces of Armenia, who suffered heavy losses from the fire strike of the Azerbaijan Army on Khankendi, are evacuated. A large number of servicemen were killed and wounded as a result of artillery shelling at the shelter of one of the military units in Khankendi.

          During the day and last night, a total of 13 T-72 tanks, 2 infantry fighting vehicles, 4 BM-21 Grad multiple launch rocket systems, 2 2S3 Akatsiya self-propelled artillery mounts, 3 D-30 cannons, 2 radar systems and a large number enemy vehicles were destroyed by precise fire.

          As a result of a combat operation carried out in one of the directions of the front, 6 T-72 tanks in full working order belonging to the 49th tank brigade of the Armenian armed forces were captured.
    5. l7yzo
      l7yzo 10 October 2020 09: 44
      0
      Yes. They depend on the weapons of the Russian Federation. They will not sell them (or rather lend them))). And who else in the world will give them such conditions? )) The question is that they agreed to stop the fire, but what about the details? How much, within what boundaries, conditions for armament.

      For example, all s-400s can be remotely converted into balvankas, and planes - the Turks will not go for it. Most likely this story will be shaded for many years. That, in principle, was needed by those who started all this.

      Here, initially, both options are inconvenient for the RF. In any case, there will be a party that takes offense at the Russian Federation. It's like - they helped - badly, they didn't help badly. And also - they helped, but not so. And they also helped - but not with what was needed, but not as they wanted.
      1. l7yzo
        l7yzo 10 October 2020 10: 00
        0
        I would like to add - "Gazprom presented Tashir with one of the most expensive locations in Moscow for commercial development" - the owner of Tashir is Karapetyan, Samvel Sarkisovich. Well, I think you get the idea. Looks like we need to get serious.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 9 October 2020 06: 06
    +1
    Anything is possible ... Maybe they will sit down at the negotiating table ... Only, it was necessary to invite representatives of Karabakh ...
  3. Victor_B
    Victor_B 9 October 2020 06: 08
    +5
    We must call in the same way as General Lebed in Moldova.
    I just broke in for a start to BOTH sides, and then offered to repeat it in Chisinau.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 9 October 2020 06: 30
      11
      Quote: Victor_B
      We must call in the same way as General Lebed in Moldova.
      I just broke in for a start to BOTH sides, and then offered to repeat it in Chisinau.

      This is all good, of course. Only the general had to break in a little earlier and not at all - you look, and the country would have survived.
      1. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 9 October 2020 10: 11
        +2
        Quote: Volodin
        Only the general had to break in a little earlier and not at all - you look, and the country would have survived.
        Yeah, we are all smart, peeking over the fence at one time or discussing what happened before we came of age.
    2. seregin-s1
      seregin-s1 9 October 2020 06: 58
      +4
      Both sides? Do not pass off fantasy as reality. I served there at that time. Swan was a hero of Transnistria. But before his arrival, Russian troops occupied a cowardly neutrality.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 9 October 2020 08: 47
        +2
        the army does not respect neutrality. she follows orders. they will say stand, will stand. say forward, trample forward.
    3. Speedy
      Speedy 9 October 2020 11: 16
      +2
      There is a double attitude towards Lebed. Khasavyurt and deflection under BNE. Don't remember him. For Pridnestrovians, a hero, for someone else.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 October 2020 06: 14
    +7
    earlier, the head of Azerbaijan, Ilham Aliyev, said that there could be no negotiations in principle
    And in this situation, who would not mind, but Turkey's influence on Aliyev is great and is growing every day. Yesterday, at Solovyov's program, an invited Azerbaijani (by the way, a citizen of Russia) made such a "fiery speech" that the desire to somehow support Azerbaijan disappears completely. Firstly, when the conversation about the shelling of the temple in Karabakh by the Azerbaijani side came up, she drew a parallel between the Christian Temple and the "toilet" referring to the words of VVP about the destruction of terrorists. Secondly, she threatened with five Karabakhs on our territory. Thirdly, she stated that the statements of Naryshkin, the President of France, the American side about the militants from Syria on the side of Azerbaijan in the b / d region require confirmation from more competent persons. Apparently, with such a heat of passion, it does not smell like negotiations.
    1. Oleg123219307
      Oleg123219307 9 October 2020 06: 21
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      earlier, the head of Azerbaijan, Ilham Aliyev, said that there could be no negotiations in principle
      And in this situation, who would not mind, but Turkey's influence on Aliyev is great and is growing every day. Yesterday, at Solovyov's program, an invited Azerbaijani (by the way, a citizen of Russia) made such a "fiery speech" that the desire to somehow support Azerbaijan disappears completely. Firstly, when the conversation about the shelling of the temple in Karabakh by the Azerbaijani side came up, she drew a parallel between the Christian Temple and the "toilet" referring to the words of VVP about the destruction of terrorists. Secondly, she threatened with five Karabakhs on our territory. Thirdly, she stated that the statements of Naryshkin, the President of France, the American side about the militants from Syria on the side of Azerbaijan in the b / d region require confirmation from more competent persons. Apparently, with such a heat of passion, it does not smell like negotiations.

      Everyone there is cool and good, loving Russia and worried about its interests. And that one, inviting the Turks to our doorstep, that the second, to whom we owe something in life. Read here https://armenianreport.com/ru/pubs/260494/ It seems to me so - the children are playing too much, it's time for the children to go home. All three. And Armenia, and Azerbaijan and Georgia. Then there will be peace, silence and tranquility in the Caucasus.
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 9 October 2020 06: 24
      13
      Quote: rotmistr60
      stated that the statements of Naryshkin, the President of France, the American side about the militants from Syria on the side of Azerbaijan in the area of ​​the b / d require confirmation from more competent persons. Apparently, with such a heat of passion, there is still no smell of negotiations

      There, the brain flies out immediately. At the words - our land, eyes fill with blood, and the coherence of thoughts really disappears ... The Azerbaijanis have already agreed that there were NO pogroms in Baku and Sumgait, that the Armenians themselves came up with everything ... then! Well, more and more publications that there was NO Holocaust, the USSR and Hitler are equally guilty of WWII, (a little more, and "good Adolf" will become the defender of Europe !!!). From the same opera.
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 9 October 2020 08: 00
        +4
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        The Azerbaijanis have already agreed that there were NO pogroms in Baku and Sumgait, that the Armenians themselves came up with everything ...

        Eugene! hi One Azerbaijani woman, invited to the tent to Soloviev, is not all Azerbaijan yet. Solovyov shapes public opinion. This is his job. You will remember who spoke for him on behalf of Ukraine (stubborn bald Vadik and others like him), and on behalf of Poland or the United States. Quite a few alternatively gifted people. It seems that Solovyov is now forming anti-Azerbaijani sentiments in society. And, I dare to assume, he does not do it on his own. What for? I think we'll find out soon. hi
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 9 October 2020 08: 16
          0
          Soloviev is traditionally a pro-Armenian comrade. )) Does what he wants, until he is pulled.
          1. faiver
            faiver 9 October 2020 09: 04
            -1
            someone else is watching it?
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 9 October 2020 09: 07
              -1
              I stopped two years ago laughing
        2. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 9 October 2020 08: 30
          +1
          Quote: Polite Elk
          Evgeniy! One Azerbaijani woman, invited to the tent to Soloviev, is not the whole of Azerbaijan. Soloviev shapes public opinion

          Believe it or not, I don’t watch Solovyov. From the word ALL. And talk shows in general. TV from time to time ... I looked at the reports of military operations. At both sides. And interviews. Aliyev, Pashinyan, and Erdogan. They said everything.
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 9 October 2020 09: 55
            +1
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Believe it or not, I don’t watch Solovyov.

            You are lucky. recourse And my father (78 years old) loves to watch his show very much. So sometimes I have to. And I came to the revelation that the purpose of all these circus performances is to give the appropriate coloring to the events taking place. Now there is a pro-Armenian painting. What for? In my personal opinion, (given the fact that Erdogan is our "neighbor, trading partner, friend and almost brother", who was rescued from a coup, to whom they sold the latest air defense systems, to which we cost a nuclear power plant and to which a pipe was stretched) they simply made a bogey from Turkey for Armenia, so that it quickly determines the vector of its development. Or maybe I'm wrong. We will see.
      2. icant007
        icant007 9 October 2020 10: 09
        +1
        Azerbaijanis have already agreed that there were NO pogroms in Baku and Sumgait


        There were pogroms, but this is not a cause, but a consequence of the conflict.
    3. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 9 October 2020 07: 00
      +5
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And in this situation, who would not mind, but Turkey's influence on Aliyev is great and is growing every day. Yesterday, at Solovyov's program, an invited Azerbaijani woman (by the way, a citizen of Russia) made such a "fiery speech" that the desire to somehow support Azerbaijan disappears completely ...


      But I've read the Armenian forums, where the Armenians blame Russia for all their troubles and throw mud at it, so they have not gone far from this "expert" in general for the good, we do not need to support anyone. Armenia under the leadership of Pashinyan is a Western-oriented country that would be glad to join the EU, NATO, but geographically far away and the West has no interest in taking it into its arms, and it would be okay (after all, Armenia is an independent country) but Russophobia and infringement of Russia's interests (the situation with The Russian language, the closure of Russian schools, scandals with our companies and others) do not add a desire to help somehow, with Azerbaijan you are right, Turkey's influence there is growing and this is bad, but on the other hand, Aliyev's fear that power will leave his hands to the Turks, can push him to seek the protection of Russia, already from Erdogan, so different options are possible here. In general, the war in Nagorno-Karabakh is not our war, our guys should not shed blood there, it is not known why, especially since Russia has close economic ties with both countries, and to stand on one side and offend the other, except for the problems and losses of Russia will not bring. So you need to stop the war and use diplomatic and other pressure mechanisms (with the exception of the military) to force the parties to peace.
    4. Egoza
      Egoza 9 October 2020 07: 06
      +4
      Quote: rotmistr60
      the invited Azerbaijani (by the way, a citizen of Russia) made such a "fiery speech" that the desire to somehow support Azerbaijan disappears completely

      Well, this "fiery" one should immediately be offered to go to their ethnic homeland and give speeches there (without returning to Russia)
    5. Avior
      Avior 9 October 2020 08: 26
      +4
      Soloviev knows whom to invite.
      I should ask him what relation a Russian citizen has to the official position of Azerbaijan?
      And as usual, he threw in the litter ...
    6. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 9 October 2020 10: 18
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Yesterday, at Solovyov's program, an invited Azerbaijani woman (by the way, a citizen of Russia) made such a "fiery speech" ...
      Will there be a reaction from the prosecutor's office to such "fiery speeches"?
  5. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 9 October 2020 06: 19
    +3
    Again GDP is engaged in half-measures. It is necessary to help the Azerbaijanis to seize Karabakh, after which the little Pashinyan baby will be thrown out by the Armenians themselves. This is exactly what the Anglo-Saxons would do, skillfully fighting and defending their interests with someone else's hands.
  6. Guards turn
    Guards turn 9 October 2020 06: 40
    +4
    This is all due to the fact that someone imagines himself to be Napoleon, wanting to solve the centuries-old problem of an entire people with one cavalry swoop, maybe today the ardor and personal ambitions of one person will be moderated for the sake of peace and tranquility of the majority.
  7. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 9 October 2020 06: 48
    +8
    It is too late to drink Barjomi ... Putin missed both Armenia and Azerbaijan ... There, for those in power already their own authorities: in Armenia - Soros, in Azerbaijan - Erdogan. Even if they do arrive for negotiations, the effect will be scanty. Nowadays, Putin does not have "powerful" levers of pressure on the leaders of the countries neither in pro Turkish Azerbaijan, nor in pro Western oriented Armenia. I think that Putin will not have enough "gingerbread" for Aliyev and Pashinyan to "make friends" ....
    1. seregin-s1
      seregin-s1 9 October 2020 07: 07
      +6
      I think the main lever of pressure is to score on them! There are many people there. If proud mountain guys do not agree among themselves 30 years is too much! Soros and Erdogan to help them!
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 9 October 2020 07: 08
      +5
      Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
      It's too late to drink Barjomi ... Putin missed both Armenia and Azerbaijan ... There, for those in power already their own authorities: in Armenia - Soros, in Azerbaijan - Erdogan. Even if they do arrive for negotiations, the effect will be scanty. Nowadays Putin does not have "powerful" levers of pressure on the leaders.

      Do you think Aliyev didn’t inform Putin about the alleged attack of the NKR? )) Do you think that Pashinyan has not yet understood that the States and the EU do not care? Well, apart from France with a rich and influential Armenian community? He is a side even to Iran, for which the Turks and the loyalty of their own Azerbaijanis are more important. The Armenians are doing badly - some betrayals have been disclosed (judging by their electronic press), Pashinyan's stories about the defeat of the ambushed Azerbaijanis “in these seconds” ended with shots of Armenian tanks taken as trophies. In addition to Russia, he has no one to rely on, Soros is marginal, but he will not throw ammunition and money on him))
      Putin just nicely put him in his place. Armenia is under a real threat of the existence of the only national consensus - its baby, A • rtsakh. Therefore, he is not ready to come to the Russian Federation, he is ready to crawl to the Russian Federation.
      Azerbaijan - the country has good relations with Russia. A solvent partner without any Russophobic show off. Don't beg for dough. And they have a natural partnership with Turkey - culture, economy, medicine, and military affairs. And Aliyev's good personal relations with GDP.
      Your "all gone" is very premature laughing
      1. Vladimir_6
        Vladimir_6 9 October 2020 07: 52
        +3
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Your "all gone" is very premature

        During the well-known events in Belarus, many also said that Putin "missed Belarus."
        As it turned out, everything was under control. Daddy finally decided on the vector.
        Pashinyan probably also realized that the "marginal Soros" is far away, and brotherly Russia is nearby. hi
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 9 October 2020 08: 05
          +1
          Quite right. Everything here is like in personal life - if the exes want money and security, then you need to educate the kids well in the spirit of love for dad and, when necessary, fulfill his wishes hi
          1. Vladimir_6
            Vladimir_6 9 October 2020 08: 29
            +2
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Everything here is like in personal life - if the exes want money and security, then you need to bring up the kids well in the spirit of love for dad and, when necessary, fulfill his wishes

            And you drew the analogy correctly. After all, they lived as one family. But after the collapse of the USSR, the "kids" broke free. Shook around the world and now look like a character from the painting by Rembrandt "The Return of the Prodigal Son."
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 9 October 2020 08: 32
              +1
              It's all sad, in fact
              1. Vladimir_6
                Vladimir_6 9 October 2020 08: 36
                +1
                Quote: Krasnodar
                It's all sad, in fact

                In this region, yes. This is fun for the Kyrgyz. The heating season is approaching, and they paralyzed the authorities.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 9 October 2020 08: 41
                  +1
                  laughing
                  There traditionally))
            2. Motorist
              Motorist 9 October 2020 20: 14
              0
              Quote: Vladimir_6
              similar to the character from the painting by Rembrandt "The Return of the Prodigal Son"

              Well, Old Man looks like a character in Reshetnikov's painting "Deuce Again" ...
        2. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 9 October 2020 10: 37
          0
          Quote: Vladimir_6
          Pashinyan probably also realized that the "marginal Soros" is far away, and brotherly Russia is nearby.
          Never, Russia was, for all these post-Soviet republics, fraternal. This is Russia, considers "all" fraternal, while, in fact, giving the Russians in the Donbass, the Baltic States and other "fraternal" to be torn apart. And the "brothers" remember about Russia when they need subsidies, loans, preferences, humanitarian aid, or when "everything is gone" and "nobody else needs it."
      2. FenH
        FenH 9 October 2020 08: 25
        +2
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
        It's too late to drink Barjomi ... Putin missed both Armenia and Azerbaijan ... There, for those in power already their own authorities: in Armenia - Soros, in Azerbaijan - Erdogan. Even if they do arrive for negotiations, the effect will be scanty. Nowadays Putin does not have "powerful" levers of pressure on the leaders.

        Do you think Aliyev didn’t inform Putin about the alleged attack of the NKR? )) Do you think that Pashinyan has not yet understood that the States and the EU do not care? Well, apart from France with a rich and influential Armenian community? He is a side even to Iran, for which the Turks and the loyalty of their own Azerbaijanis are more important. The Armenians are doing badly - some betrayals have been disclosed (judging by their electronic press), Pashinyan's stories about the defeat of the ambushed Azerbaijanis “in these seconds” ended with shots of Armenian tanks taken as trophies. In addition to Russia, he has no one to rely on, Soros is marginal, but he will not throw ammunition and money on him))
        Putin just nicely put him in his place. Armenia is under a real threat of the existence of the only national consensus - its baby, A • rtsakh. Therefore, he is not ready to come to the Russian Federation, he is ready to crawl to the Russian Federation.
        Azerbaijan - the country has good relations with Russia. A solvent partner without any Russophobic show off. Don't beg for dough. And they have a natural partnership with Turkey - culture, economy, medicine, and military affairs. And Aliyev's good personal relations with GDP.
        Your "all gone" is very premature laughing

        In addition, take away contracts for asphalting roads from the Armenian mafia and they themselves will roll Pashinyan into the asphalt laughing
      3. Vitaly Tsymbal
        Vitaly Tsymbal 9 October 2020 08: 27
        0
        Sooner or later, everything will work out ... though in this case (war) the word LATE is more appropriate. While the peoples (not to be confused with the political elite and the oligarchy) of both Armenia and Azerbaijan, the Russians treat us very friendly, but Putin and his policy with the political elite of these countries leads us to what can happen between ordinary people in Ukraine and Russia. When profits for a narrow circle are in the head under the guise of state necessity, and the rest are not remembered, then such approaches dominate in international relations. Today there is a war that is not needed by any of the ordinary people, but the "rich people of the planet" from the locals will warm up on the blood of their fellow citizens ...
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 9 October 2020 08: 39
          +2
          Around 2009, I talked with an Azeri about what is happening in your country. Oil began to grow again, LET'S RECOVER OUR LAND, modernize our country and live, he says.
          Why do you need to conquer Karabakh, I ask. He looked at me like I was a half-wit and turned the conversation to another topic. Then I heard RETURNING OUR LAND from other Azerbaijanis. Even from those who were born in Moscow, Russified guys with Armenian (Moscow) friends. Ordinary Azerbaijanis need Karabakh, which is why, during the period of economic decline due to the pandemic and the fall in oil prices, this war began hi
          1. Vitaly Tsymbal
            Vitaly Tsymbal 9 October 2020 09: 30
            +2
            You had to clarify what kind of land the Azerbaijanis need. Many want to return those areas that have always been Azerbaijani, they do not need the territory of Soviet Karabakh. Instead of giving the Azerbaijanis the Azerbaijani, and the Armenians the Armenian and starting negotiations on this basis, politicians talk about Karabakh without dividing the traditional territories of compact residence of these peoples. There are similar areas outside Karabakh on the border between Azerbaijan and Armenia. We need a calm "bargaining", not a war.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 9 October 2020 16: 26
              0
              Which one to clarify laughing what was taken from them))
              1. Vitaly Tsymbal
                Vitaly Tsymbal 9 October 2020 17: 19
                +1
                Land was taken from the Azerbaijanis on the territory of Armenia - there were many villages with the Azerbaijani population, the Armenians were taken from the land on the territory of Azerbaijan (even in Baku there was the Armenekand region). So you shouldn't smile, because smiles are a continuation of the destruction of the peoples of Armenia and Azerbaijan.
          2. Vladimir_6
            Vladimir_6 9 October 2020 10: 11
            +1
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Why do you need to conquer Karabakh,

            A strange configuration looms in this region.
            The territory of the Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic is 5500 km², with a population of 440 000 people. As they say, people live, work and reproduce.
            11 people live in the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic on 458 km². If the Armenians need Nagorno-Karabakh so much, then why did they settle in Russia and not the above-mentioned Republic?
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 9 October 2020 16: 27
              +1
              Unemployment. Small economy, lack of jobs.
    3. Oleg123219307
      Oleg123219307 9 October 2020 07: 30
      0
      Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
      It is too late to drink Barjomi ... Putin missed both Armenia and Azerbaijan ... There, for those in power already their own authorities: in Armenia - Soros, in Azerbaijan - Erdogan. Even if they do arrive for negotiations, the effect will be scanty. Nowadays, Putin does not have "powerful" levers of pressure on the leaders of the countries neither in pro Turkish Azerbaijan, nor in pro Western oriented Armenia. I think that Putin will not have enough "gingerbread" for Aliyev and Pashinyan to "make friends" ....

      Well, there are methods other than gingerbread. Something like "Either you are now negotiating with me and resolve the issue without shooting, or tomorrow, for the sake of peace and security, we will remember that these are, in general, our territories, and you guys will go around the world, because I have incompetent boobies in the leadership of a dozen new Russian regions. Not needed". Perhaps they will agree. But no, you can put things in order yourself. Look, they took fashion ... Some run to the Turks, a NATO member, others generally to the states. Played.
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal
        Vitaly Tsymbal 9 October 2020 08: 32
        -1
        Have you already prepared an alarming suitcase to run to the military registration and enlistment office to enroll in the "peacekeepers"? If not, then it is better not to "wave your fists" and "do not use your tongue" while sitting at the computer, and not on the contact line at the front line.
        1. Oleg123219307
          Oleg123219307 9 October 2020 08: 52
          -2
          Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
          Have you already prepared an alarming suitcase to run to the military registration and enlistment office to enroll in the "peacekeepers"? If not, then it is better not to "wave your fists" and "do not use your tongue" while sitting at the computer, and not on the contact line at the front line.

          If our supreme commander decides to capture the gentlemen of the neighbors, yes, I will go to the military registration and enlistment office without any problems, because these are problems, but also the possibilities of my country. I have actually been at war with this same military registration and enlistment office for 7 years so that they would take me to the army on a contract, and these gentlemen don’t give me a commission on "A" to re-pass, so maybe at least it will turn out that way. But speaking about the situation when our guys will be sent precisely as peacekeepers, while leaving all those territories under the control of the same woodpeckers that they unleashed the war there and we are watered, I agree with you - we have nothing to do there for any of them ...
    4. nora
      nora 9 October 2020 08: 21
      +1
      without Russia, Armenia will end, they will take Karabakh. cut off the border from Iran and Armenia, surrounded
  8. fif21
    fif21 9 October 2020 06: 49
    +8
    Moscow's sluggish response to the Karabakh conflict is most likely due to the cooling of relations with both Armenia and Azerbaijan. Some "fell" under Turkey, others under Soras. And what do they want from Russia? Either lie quietly under Russia and have fun, or walk through the forest. Here's something like that, short and exaggerated. hi
  9. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 9 October 2020 06: 52
    +3
    They will most likely come, Pashinyan is already sufficiently imbued with the threat of losing Karabakh, they can offer him conditions for broad autonomy of NGOs within Azerbaijan and the return of Azerbaijani lands seized in 1994
    1. Artura
      Artura 9 October 2020 07: 20
      -3
      Dreaming is not harmful))
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 9 October 2020 07: 34
        +6
        Azerbaijan does not dream.
        He acts systematically.
        And Armenia did not modernize its army like that.
        And the economy in Armenia is nowhere worse.
        Corruption has sprouted everything through and through.
        The Armenians abandoned their country en masse.
        Now they are lamenting over the diasporas in the foreign country.
        1. Isim soyad
          Isim soyad 9 October 2020 08: 16
          +1
          Everything is clear and clear. Bravo. You should have seen a video of their posts, barracks and other military facilities, in a word, the pigsty looks more normal.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 9 October 2020 09: 29
            0
            They have no attendants to keep it in full dress
            1. Isim soyad
              Isim soyad 9 October 2020 09: 34
              0
              I'm talking about that too. With such an economy as Armenia had, it is not difficult to predict what it will become after this company. Now we have a tactic to exhaust the enemy. They destroyed the people of Armenia themselves, choosing him as the head. The army, economy and budget are broken.
  10. Sayan
    Sayan 9 October 2020 07: 06
    +4
    And I liked the words of Kvachkov "let the Azerbaijanis fight to the last drop of blood of the last Azeri and let the Armenians fight to the last drop of blood of the last Armenian - bad blood must come out"
    Something like this he said, I did not write literally, but only the essence
    1. Artura
      Artura 9 October 2020 07: 20
      -2
      You're probably glad, huh ???
      1. Oleg123219307
        Oleg123219307 9 October 2020 07: 34
        0
        Quote: Artura
        You're probably glad, huh ???

        And where is he fatally wrong? Both sides were parts of our country. Both betrayed and wanted to live on their own. Both were sold to our enemies. And now, when the war is over, should we help someone? What for? In my opinion there are two sensible decisions. Or grab everything for yourself, and never again let play adult toys such as independence, or, if we don’t want to, do not meddle and let the gentlemen who consider themselves smarter than us interrupt each other. We will have fewer problems in 3-5 years when a big war starts.
        1. Nikanet
          Nikanet 9 October 2020 10: 39
          -1
          Arthur is right. Like you, what will happen to the Armenians and Azerbaijanis to the ceiling. Speaking about the fact that "both sides were parts of your country" it was possible at least to cram the word "common" there. This country was not only yours, but all peoples and nationalities living in it. It is with this your (and those like you) interpretation that it will not work to be part of the same country with you. This country was built by both Armenians and Azerbaijanis, both of them perished for it. And they died building the country of the Soviets and not your country. Everything, the kin will not be. Let people figure it out, this is not your war. None of this region is going anywhere. After the war, everything will be fine.
          1. Oleg123219307
            Oleg123219307 9 October 2020 11: 28
            -1
            Quote: Nikanet
            Arthur is right. Like you, what will happen to the Armenians and Azerbaijanis to the ceiling. Speaking about the fact that "both sides were parts of your country" it was possible at least to cram the word "common" there. This country was not only yours, but all peoples and nationalities living in it. It is with this your (and those like you) interpretation that it will not work to be part of the same country with you. This country was built by both Armenians and Azerbaijanis, both of them perished for it. And they died building the country of the Soviets and not your country. Everything, the kin will not be. Let people figure it out, this is not your war. None of this region is going anywhere. After the war, everything will be fine.

            When the territories where Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan are now were part of our country, the USSR was not in the project either. There was the Russian Empire, and everything was normal. And please don't tell me that everyone entered the empire peacefully and voluntarily. Let's be honest - we simply recaptured these territories from the Turks and took them for ourselves. So, I see NO ONE reason to get involved in this conflict, except to repeat that long-standing achievement. Fortunately for our country, this region would be useful. But this is my opinion, not the opinion of our leadership, unfortunately. We're playing right and good right now, I would like to know why. And to help one of the parties while maintaining the current military-political status ... Explain why? I really want to understand. We always owe Armenia. They must, they must, this "ally" who, not only is squeezing us out of its territory, has not helped either in a military sense, or in a diplomatic way, either in 2008 or in 2014. We have strained with our allies, more such a position shares all the CSTO. Well, actually it naturally comes from our "correct" policy. But there is no point in killing our guys for Armenia in its present form. The second side of the conflict is Azerbaijan, according to the law to the right. And they don't water us like that. But to help them is to admit problems with Crimea in the future, and they choose friends badly. Who would not say what, and Turkey is the enemy. Accordingly, there is no reason to help them. So it remains to either disperse everyone if there is enough will and take everything for ourselves, or, since we are correct now, just do not climb and do not let the Turks ...
  11. fa2998
    fa2998 9 October 2020 07: 07
    -4
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    I think yes.

    Well, the director of the enterprise is direct, he summons the heads of departments to shoot shavings! In different ways, you can relate to the international policy of Russia, but Russia is now a peacemaker ?? All around under sanctions, authority is not at the level. There were negotiations, and under the supervision of Russia, not shaky not shaky, but 30 years of conflict !! I think they will look for new mediators, probably the UN. hi
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 9 October 2020 07: 34
      +3
      Frankly - who, besides the mayors of several cities in the USA and Canada with significant Armenian communities and the French, for the same reason, needs Armenians? Are they serious players on the world stage? Significant military strength? Are they on oil and gas? Has anyone heard anything about the Armenian economy?
      Unfortunately, no one needs them, unlike the Turks. It's a pity for them, but for the above reasons, absolutely no one will fit in for them. The Azerbaijanis are now held back only by the heroism (I am not exaggerating) of their units and the terrain difficult for waging war. So the UN will not play any role here. Only Russia can help them.
      1. Avior
        Avior 9 October 2020 08: 44
        +2
        The Armenians have a strategic mistake.
        It was necessary to agree on the status of Karabakh earlier, while Armenia controlled the situation, then it was possible to push through its terms.
        It has long been clear that the Armenian economy is not capable of providing a qualitative growth of the armed forces proportional to that of Azerbaijan. And credit-free weapons from Russia do not solve this problem.
        And the question of time was when Azerbaijan would try to solve the problem by military means.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 9 October 2020 08: 51
          0
          Why negotiate when they were convinced of the inaccessibility of the "Fortress Karabakh" and the ludicrousness of the "tomato traders"? Now, when there are big losses in people - yes, Pashinyan is annoying all serious world leaders. You just had to do your own nuclear weapons, and not garbage for 30 years toil. Now they also have a fear of Turkey, which openly stands behind Azerbaijan.
          1. Avior
            Avior 9 October 2020 08: 58
            +3
            Didn't they know before that Azerbaijanis and Turks speak the same language?
            Has let down self-confidence and unwillingness to give in until it squeezes.
            Then the moment for the negotiations was suitable for the Armenians, Baku would agree to a lot.
            Not anymore.
            Even if this time nothing comes of it, the Azerbaijanis will again accumulate strength for this.
            Armenia has no such opportunity
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 9 October 2020 09: 05
              0
              They used to tell me that the Russian base protects them from Turkey, and they would gouge Turkey too, but that, damn it, bad luck - into NATO.
              The problem of Israel before 1973 was arrogance, as you rightly pointed out, and a sense of its own superiority over a previously lost enemy.
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 9 October 2020 07: 34
    0
    I would invite them to the tatami and explain to them how to build a bridge, along the river or across. A joke of humor. lol
  13. Korsar4
    Korsar4 9 October 2020 07: 43
    +1
    Good news. In this case, bargaining is better than war. But nobody canceled the laws of inertia.
  14. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 9 October 2020 07: 55
    +2
    The main thing is that the process starts. The war will end, but the confrontation will remain and the issue will not be resolved.
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 9 October 2020 08: 53
      0
      If the issue is not resolved through negotiations, the fighting will stop. The Armenians must present a schedule for the withdrawal of their troops from the territory of Azerbaijan.
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 9 October 2020 10: 15
        +1
        Yes, this is understandable. What will they do with the Armenians in Karabakh? Azerbaijanis consider Karabakh occupied by Armenians and do not want to see them there ..
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 9 October 2020 10: 52
          +1
          Aliyev openly stated that the peaceful population of Karabakh are our citizens.
          1. Daniil Konovalenko
            Daniil Konovalenko 9 October 2020 11: 17
            +1
            In that sense, Aliyev will decide for himself whether to punish or pardon .. laughing
            1. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 9 October 2020 11: 38
              0
              Unlike many Armenians raised on the basis of "genocide" and hating everything Turkic on the basis of this, we, Azerbaijanis, do not have such feelings of hatred and such mental education. Yes, we know what they have done in Khojaly, what they have done with the cities and villages of Azerbaijanis. But, even this did not instill hatred in us to the core and bones. Moreover, we know that many Armenians of Karabakh do not treat us badly, they themselves are hostages of the Armenian Natsiks who drive the idea of ​​"miatsum", which brought relations to such a state ...
              1. Daniil Konovalenko
                Daniil Konovalenko 9 October 2020 12: 04
                0
                We know how you "love" each other smile
  15. Isim soyad
    Isim soyad 9 October 2020 08: 09
    0
    Putin called for a ceasefire in Karabakh. Foreign ministers of Azerbaijan and Armenia invited to Moscow


    Why are you distorting, and not holding it right!
    After the president's appeal, the foreign ministers do not go to negotiations on a ceasefire. Why are they going, and what did VVP urge, you have in Russia, on the Russia 24 channel, in the top line it is written in detail.

    Before this call, VVP had called for a ceasefire, to which Aliyev replied:
    Aliyev refused to go to Moscow and stated. We entered negotiations for 30 years, but there were no results. Except for the withdrawal of the Armenian bandit formations and the recognition of NK by the Azerbaijani Pshik, there are no negotiations.
    .
    And yesterday's call to GDP was as follows. For the sake of humanity, it is necessary at least for a while to cease fire, and exchange prisoners and the bodies of the dead, and then on the initiative of srosyatina. To which he can send the head of the Foreign Ministry. This is completely different.
    1. nora
      nora 9 October 2020 08: 28
      +1
      Aliyev must be sure of victory, otherwise he will also feel bad
      1. Isim soyad
        Isim soyad 9 October 2020 08: 38
        +1
        Probably sure, since I'm sure.
  16. aszzz888
    aszzz888 9 October 2020 08: 26
    -1
    Erdogan specifically uses I. Aliyev for his geopolitical purposes. Doesn't Aliyev himself see such a fact? request
    1. Isim soyad
      Isim soyad 9 October 2020 08: 46
      +1
      Why does everyone write like that, they say everything is Erdogan, etc., etc. We are fully united by the people, headed by the Commander-in-Chief, are returning the occupied lands from illegally captured bandit formations. And why is it Edo's fault. If he morally supports, and is ready to provide any help if needed, then he is to blame. In what?
  17. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 9 October 2020 08: 58
    0
    This is already reminiscent of the Empire - all on the carpet and head-on and home. The Turks understand only if they napinaesh and the Armenians are not strong enough to fight further.

    That some, that others - fizzled out. Drones are not endless, the blitzkrieg has broken off, human losses are enormous, and sanctions are on the doorstep - it's time to enforce peace. And there it will be seen who what ...
    1. Isim soyad
      Isim soyad 9 October 2020 09: 02
      0
      Just read my first comment above, and then think like that.
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 9 October 2020 10: 37
        +1
        We are fully united by the people, headed by the Commander-in-Chief, are returning the occupied lands from illegally captured bandit formations.


        Yes. And off to the side sits a marmot wrapping chocolate. Turkish F16s are at your aerodromes, your army is commanded by the Turks, the Turkoman terrorists are in your ranks and the Armenians hit you on the cap, albeit with heavy losses. That's the whole oil painting.

        And now the forester has come and spanks the happy participants in the Turkish revival and their opponents. laughing
        1. Isim soyad
          Isim soyad 9 October 2020 11: 55
          0
          There is no need for mercenaries, many have said about this more than once, the answer is the same: "show proof" !!! And at the expense of F-16, everyone probably forgot that Azerbaijan bought M-346.
    2. Nikanet
      Nikanet 9 October 2020 10: 43
      0
      Hear the Bulgarian, no one stuttered about the blitzkrieg. These are your suggestions. And don't get involved in a showdown between hot guys. You can be hurt a lot. Graze yourself on the EU pasture and entertain NATO members.
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 9 October 2020 10: 53
        0
        And don't get involved in a showdown between hot guys. You can be hurt a lot.


        Grow the scarecrow boy ... otherwise the Armenians gnawed it off ... laughing
  18. dgonni
    dgonni 9 October 2020 09: 01
    +2
    (It became known that the heads of the foreign ministries of Armenia and Azerbaijan have been invited to the capital of Russia to conduct consultations and carry out the mediation mission of the Russian Foreign Ministry..)
    This phrase from the article smiled.
    Foreign ministers are not invited to Moscow or to Parisstadt for consultations and mediation. And the diplomats go to the capital of each of the conflicting parties, find out the boundaries of a possible compromise, then prepare a meeting of the foreign ministers, and after that they organize a meeting of the foreign ministers on a neutral territory.
    And so it reminds a call to the boss in the office, or like a dog called to the leg!
  19. Nikanet
    Nikanet 9 October 2020 10: 44
    -3
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    Turkish F16s at your aerodromes

    none of your business!
  20. Nikanet
    Nikanet 9 October 2020 10: 45
    -2
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    your army is commanded by the Turks, the Turkoman terrorists are in your ranks

    and who is lying is the very last primate on earth!
  21. georggy
    georggy 9 October 2020 17: 06
    0
    Let them figure it out for themselves.
    Strongly intelligent Pashinyans and Aliyevs.
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  23. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 10 October 2020 02: 06
    -2
    Armenians need time to win like nosebleeds. Therefore, they howled and begged Moscow. At least a few days, without any conditions binding them. Another Armenian trick. It is necessary to bring the demoralized army to its senses, save up reserves, hp, get again new equipment and weapons, ammunition, for free of course.