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Coronavirus billions. Whom did the pandemic enrich and how?

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Coronavirus billions. Whom did the pandemic enrich and how?

The COVID-19 epidemic that has hit the world has caused completely unprecedented damage to the absolute majority of sectors of its economy. Huge losses were incurred by the transport industry, aircraft construction, tourism, energy ... Nevertheless, as practice shows, for some people the global crisis caused by the disease brought not ruin, but new super profits. Who are these lucky ones?


In fact, the postulate that in times of change and upheaval the rich become even richer, and the poor even poorer, was brilliantly confirmed this time too. During the coronavirus crisis, the combined wealth of the world's super-rich billionaires has grown to $ 10,2 trillion, according to the Swiss bank UBS. This is a record high, well above the 2017 level when it was considered the highest. Also, there are more moneybags: their number has increased to 2189 people.

Where does this luck come from? One of the leaders of UBS, Joseph Stadler, assures: the whole point is that the billionaires turned out to be bolder and more proactive than everyone else. During the time of the total collapse of the stock markets, they were not afraid to massively buy up shares of companies and did not lose. We took a chance and won. However, everything is not as simple as the banker is trying to present. Those who invested in certain sectors of the economy and market segments turned out to be in the black. As you might guess, the biggest piece of the pie of "coronavirus" profits was taken by those whose business was initially associated with medicine and especially with pharmacology: their wealth rose by 50%.

Particularly bright in this galaxy are such personalities as Stefan Bansel, who heads the American company Moderna Therapeutics, which received a grant for the development of a vaccine against coronavirus (the state doubled during the pandemic, to $ 1,5 billion), co-owner of test systems and diagnostic kits. COVID-19 biotech firm DiaSorin Gustavo Denegri (grew rich by a third, his fortune reached $ 4,5 billion). Alain Merrier, the creator of BioMérieux, increased his income by a quarter, to $ 7,6 billion, on similar products - tests that allow to quickly establish the presence of a coronavirus in a person. The list of "medical billionaires" is quite extensive.

The owners of modern high-tech companies found themselves in a somewhat less advantageous position. The coronavirus literally pushed the whole world online, and at the same time demanded complex technological and intellectual solutions for many of the elementary things that seemed to us before its arrival. Unsurprisingly, Jeff Bezos at his Amazon, whose fortune recently surpassed $ 200 billion, has nothing to complain about. As well as Tesla's father Elon Musk. The owners of such companies as TikTok, Zoom, Netflix, Microsoft were not at a loss either. Financial experts estimate the increase in their capitalization at hundreds of millions of dollars at least.

Russia has not remained aloof from world trends: according to financiers, the fortune of 102 Russian billionaires in this difficult year has increased by at least 20%. Among the most successful are those who make money in the IT sphere: Leonid Boguslavsky, who was enriched by one and a half billion dollars at the shares of DataDog software developer, and Arkady Volozh, co-founder of Yandex, who owned only 10% of the shares of this company. in almost a few days.

However, it would be a sin to complain to Viktor Kharitonin, who earned more than a billion dollars on the antiviral drug "Arbidol". Or Suleiman Kerimov, to whom the Polyus gold mining company brought almost $ 9 billion in a year. During global crises, precious metals are always at a high price.

As you can see, everything is quite predictable and predictable. There are, however, and completely non-standard approaches to "coronavirus" enrichment. For example, in neighboring Ukraine, out of 66 billion hryvnias (approximately 182 billion rubles) allocated by the state in a special fund to combat COVID-19 and its consequences, 35 billion for some reason were invested in the repair of existing roads and the construction of new ones! At the same time, almost all contracts went to foreign companies, mostly Turkish. What part of the money ended up in the pockets of the local officials who agreed and made such a phantasmagoric decision, naturally, remains a mystery. Well, everyone earns the best they can. Including coronavirus.
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  1. BMP-2
    BMP-2 10 October 2020 15: 14
    28
    In fact, an epidemic is when the "epidemic threshold" is exceeded - the percentage of cases set for each disease out of the total population. For most diseases, this is 5% or 1%. Does anyone know what this threshold is for COVID - 19? Is it at least somewhere exceeded? Well, then this is not an epidemic, but hysteria!)
    1. RealPilot
      RealPilot 10 October 2020 15: 26
      24
      Here is an interesting anecdote:

      - When will the quarantine end? belay
      - As soon as the respected people who have invested in the production of masks will recoup the costs and get super profit! hi
      1. olegfbi
        olegfbi 10 October 2020 15: 53
        20
        However, it is a sin to complain to Viktor Kharitonin, who earned more than a billion dollars on the antiviral drug "Arbidol"

        I have a question - To whom and how much ................... Mr. Kharitonin, so that a drug with NOT proven action should be promoted so actively?
        There are no censorship words ...
        1. Ptolemy Lag
          Ptolemy Lag 15 October 2020 08: 58
          0
          Has Kharitonin bribed the Chinese too?
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 10 October 2020 16: 48
        13
        Quote: RealPilot
        As soon as the respected people who have invested in the production of masks recoup the costs and get super profit!

        They have recaptured all investments long ago and continue to receive super-profits ...
    2. Private89
      Private89 10 October 2020 16: 42
      21
      There is no crime that the capitalist will not commit for the sake of 300% profit
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 10 October 2020 18: 50
        +8
        CHALLENGE:
        A "reusable" mask in China costs $ 0,1, but in Dixie, magnet, five rubles it costs 149 rubles ... Question: how much interest will the speculators-oligarchs receive ???
        (c) Zadornov.
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 10 October 2020 18: 23
      18
      Quote: BMP-2
      Does anyone know what this threshold is for COVID - 19?

      Officially, the number of cases at the moment is just over a million. This is about 1% of cases. So it's far from the epidemic.
      Moreover, a very incomprehensible situation - in about half of patients with pneumonia, Covid is not detected, even after several tests. So maybe it's not about Covid at all?
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 10 October 2020 19: 00
        +5
        In fact, there is a lot of incomprehensible here :)). For example, why everyone who has a coronavirus is recorded as "sick"? But after all, the "carrier of the coronavirus" and the "sick" with the coronavirus are, as they say, "two big differences"! :)) In this regard, the question arises: do those who lead the WHO know exactly medicine :?)
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 11 October 2020 12: 07
          +5
          Quote: BMP-2
          who heads the WHO, they know exactly medicine :?)

          there are only 5-10 people from medicine, and the rest are either "managers" from pharmaceutical corporations, or politicians ...
      2. Vladimir Vladimirovich S
        Vladimir Vladimirovich S 11 October 2020 09: 16
        +6
        "BUSINESS" - in the Sales media, exaggerating the topic of Covid. And ordinary people are suckers, "pecking" at this ...
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 October 2020 20: 52
      +3
      Quote: BMP-2
      Is it at least somewhere exceeded? Well, then this is not an epidemic, but hysteria!)

      25 people per 100 people is considered the normal limit for Europe.
    5. Roman070280
      Roman070280 12 October 2020 13: 59
      +2
      Well, then this is not an epidemic, but hysteria!)

      This is a scam ..))
  2. Bashkirkhan
    Bashkirkhan 10 October 2020 15: 15
    11
    Some are war, and some are mothers.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 10 October 2020 19: 34
      -1
      the world is changing ---------- and you do not have the roles of stepmother and mistresses
      how should a saying sound in online times?
  3. apro
    apro 10 October 2020 15: 16
    +8
    During the coronavirus crisis, the combined wealth of the world's super-rich billionaires has grown to $ 10,2 trillion, according to Swiss bank UBS. 

    So, apparently for the sake of this, everything was started ...
  4. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 15: 18
    21
    We must also mention Sobyanin, who bought the largest mask manufacturer in Russia - the KIT company. laughing And now he is probably already on the list of the Russian top 100 Forbes. bully
    Called - "business in Russian" wassat You yourself issue laws, you yourself control their implementation - and money flows into your pocket like a river yes
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 10 October 2020 15: 26
      22
      Quote: Corona without virus
      Sobyanin, who bought the largest mask manufacturer in Russia - the KIT company.

      Plus the production of asphalt, plus tiles, plus a curbstone!
      And fines, fines, fines! laughing
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 15: 37
        +1
        Quote: Phil77
        Quote: Corona without virus
        Sobyanin, who bought the largest mask manufacturer in Russia - the KIT company.

        Plus the production of asphalt, plus tiles, plus a curbstone!
        And fines, fines, fines! laughing

        Do not confuse "personal wool with the state" !!! This is me in Defense of Sobyanin! good
        Asphalt, tiles + curb - it's at the expense of his wife's clothes dripping ... am Fines - at the expense of the Moscow mayor's office ... but for the masks Sobyanin personally receives ... repeat
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 10 October 2020 15: 44
          +9
          Quote: Corona without virus
          wives are dripping their clothes ...

          Not far from my place of work, there is a former factory of Yuri Mikhailovich's wife. Well, how is it? It was standing! There is a building, there is no factory. And this attack happened immediately after the removal of Luzhkov. Now there are tenants * rule *.
          And you say your wife's money. wink
          1. Virus-free crown
            Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 15: 49
            +3
            Quote: Phil77
            Quote: Corona without virus
            wives are dripping their clothes ...

            Not far from my place of work, there is a former factory of Yuri Mikhailovich's wife. Well, how is it? It was standing! There is a building, there is no factory. And this attack happened immediately after the removal of Luzhkov. Now there are tenants * rule *.
            And you say your wife's money. wink

            Well, as soon as Sobyanin will be removed - you can also say that the factories for tiles and curbs were ... with his wife ... Sobyanin ... bully
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 10 October 2020 15: 52
              14
              Quote: Corona without virus
              Sobyanin will be removed -

              Will be removed ?????
              Zero! wink laughing
              1. Phil77
                Phil77 10 October 2020 15: 54
                10
                Or what job they will find. * We do not abandon our own! * laughing
                Or as a last resort.
                * I'll go to the British embassy!
                I know English. *
                1. Virus-free crown
                  Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 16: 08
                  +4
                  Quote: Phil77
                  Or what job they will find. * We do not abandon our own! * laughing
                  Or as a last resort.
                  * I'll go to the British embassy!
                  I know English. *

                  I responsibly declare - Sobyanin has the last term of mayorship ... if he suddenly, in "drunken delirium", decides to "zero" and re-nominate himself for a new term - the events in Belarus and Kyrgyzstan will seem like "an easy walk through the spring forest in sunny weather" by comparison what will happen in Moscow then ... wassat Moscow did not know the more HATE mayor !!! stop
                  1. Phil77
                    Phil77 10 October 2020 16: 11
                    10
                    Quote: Corona without virus
                    THE HATEED MAYOR

                    And I really do not argue? I myself do not digest this Gauleiter, together with a certain Rakova. hi
                    1. Virus-free crown
                      Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 16: 19
                      +2
                      Quote: Phil77
                      Quote: Corona without virus
                      THE HATEED MAYOR

                      And I really do not argue? I myself do not digest this Gauleiter, together with a certain Rakova. hi

                      Whoa !!! You are only the third person here who believes me when I write about the situation in Moscow !!! drinks drinks drinks And for all the rest - we have here "the Muskwiches are getting drunk" and here we have "peace and grace" laughing laughing laughing
                  2. Phil77
                    Phil77 10 October 2020 16: 19
                    +8
                    And in continuation of the theme. Not far from the station * Red Builder * there are asphalt factories, the local people * affectionately * call them - * Sobyanin *. What kind of spirit can you imagine?
                    So, an initiative group of local citizens turned to Popova's department, a commission of little men in * crimson spinjaks * came and passed a verdict that the factories are standing right, there is almost no smell and in general ...
                    Sleep well, residents of Baghdad! This is already a question for Popova, she does not see what needs to be seen, but fight the * virus *! Oh yes! By the way, earlier it was possible to find the occupation of this person's hubby on the net, but now it is not. that he was a serviceman, and his business was / is / was quite interesting. laughing
                    1. Virus-free crown
                      Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 16: 22
                      +5
                      Quote: Phil77
                      And in continuation of the theme. Not far from the station * Red Builder * there are asphalt factories, the local people * affectionately * call them - * Sobyanin *. What kind of spirit can you imagine?
                      So, an initiative group of local citizens turned to Popova's department, a commission of little men in * crimson spinjaks * came and passed a verdict that the factories are standing right, there is almost no smell and in general ...
                      Sleep well, residents of Baghdad! This is already a question for Popova, she does not see what needs to be seen, but fight the * virus *! Oh yes! By the way, earlier it was possible to find the occupation of this person's hubby on the net, but now it is not. that he was a serviceman, and his business was / is / was quite interesting. laughing

                      I put you + for the post ... but keep in mind ... a bunch of minuses will immediately fly to you here ... "for you are lying" (c) about me on the forum when I tell the TRUTH !!! bully Zaputins ... they are like that ... "it really hurts their eyes" ... laughing lol
                      1. Phil77
                        Phil77 10 October 2020 16: 32
                        +4
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        right away you will get a bunch of minuses ... "because you are lying"

                        Already! Yes, let him amuse himself, * anonymous * comrade. With arguments in a dispute, trouble and strained. Well, at least he will take his darling away. laughing wink
                      2. Virus-free crown
                        Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 16: 36
                        +5
                        Quote: Phil77
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        right away you will get a bunch of minuses ... "because you are lying"

                        Already! Yes, let him amuse himself, * anonymous * comrade. With arguments in a dispute, trouble and strained. Well, at least he will take his darling away. laughing wink

                        Don't flatter yourself laughing they are here on the payroll ... we write with you absolutely free and from the heart ... and they minus us for money bully they have such a job hi
                      3. Motorist
                        Motorist 10 October 2020 16: 52
                        0
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        not here on the salary sit ... we write with you absolutely free and from the heart ...

                        Crown, hi... About myself - it is clear: either good or nothing. And where did the information come from for Phil77? lol
                      4. Virus-free crown
                        Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 17: 25
                        +1
                        Quote: Motorist
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        not here on the salary sit ... we write with you absolutely free and from the heart ...

                        Crown, hi... About myself - it is clear: either good or nothing. And where did the information come from for Phil77? lol

                        Specify your question !!! hi
                      5. Motorist
                        Motorist 10 October 2020 17: 47
                        -1
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        Specify your question !!!

                        Well, how do you know which interlocutors "write from the heart" and which ones "are on the payroll"? Which of both are people in general? How much lost profit has someone if he didn’t put a minus to another? It's interesting!
                      6. Virus-free crown
                        Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 18: 33
                        +4
                        Quote: Motorist
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        Specify your question !!!

                        Well, how do you know which interlocutors "write from the heart" and which ones "are on the payroll"? Which of those and others are people in general? How much lost profit has anyone if he didn’t put a minus to another? It's interesting!

                        You see for yourself - I'm here "again" the captain on the forum ?! repeat
                        And a month ago I was a "captain" ... but then a "watering gang" gathered, which began to minus me no matter what I write ... I tracked down this fact ... justifiably "dashed off the cart" of the Administration of the VO about the violation of the Site Rules. .. The administration conducted its own investigation ... the facts were confirmed ... I was "reinstated in the rank" ... and they were "given a hat" bully

                        Therefore, I confirm the Russian proverb - "the taste of shrimp is best discussed with those who have tried them." hi
                      7. Motorist
                        Motorist 10 October 2020 18: 51
                        +1
                        Ah ... I thought you, as a programmer, see everything through the matrix. Yes, there was a fact of massiveness of negative assessments to you - I also paid attention. Congratulations on your recovery! drinks
                      8. Virus-free crown
                        Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 18: 56
                        +5
                        Quote: Motorist
                        Ah ... I thought you, as a programmer, see everything through the matrix. Yes, there was a fact of massiveness of negative assessments to you - I also paid attention. Congratulations on your recovery! drinks

                        Well, I immediately "drown for the observance of the laws" after all ?! hi
                        Hack this site overnight and set yourself the title of "super-duper-General" - all that costs, for a can of coffee and a pack of cigarettes bully

                        But ... "... the truth is dearer !!!" drinks
        2. Phil77
          Phil77 10 October 2020 18: 15
          +9
          Quote: Corona without virus
          for you are lying "

          Okay, now, from the last one!
          * Muscovites are so rich that they throw away their masks after the fifth wash. * wink
          * I realized that the crisis had already come when on the door of the sewing workshop I saw an advertisement for the repair of masks. * wink
          * If you survive two waves of a pandemic in one mask, you are immortal! * laughing
        3. Virus-free crown
          Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 18: 43
          +1
          Quote: Phil77
          for you are lying
          (c) Corona without virus soldier

          because you are lying))) well, chickens don't bite money for us lol right there in Moscow money is lying literally underfoot ... (yes - if it's a tile from the mayor's wife)))
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 10 October 2020 16: 57
      13
      Quote: Phil77
      By the way, earlier it was possible to find on the net the occupation of the husband of this person, but now it is not. It is sparingly reported that he is a military man, and his business was / is / is quite interesting.

      Now even the data in the Rosregister have been cleaned up ... Boyars hide their goods from the eyes of commoners, otherwise they will not be put on a pitchfork.
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 17: 27
        +4
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Phil77
        By the way, earlier it was possible to find on the net the occupation of the husband of this person, but now it is not. It is sparingly reported that he is a military man, and his business was / is / is quite interesting.

        Now even the data in the rosregister has been cleaned up... Boyars hide their goods from the eyes of commoners, otherwise they will not plant them on a pitchfork.

        I am still here "drowning for the truth" - so I will criticize you drinks
        Not "cleaned up" - but instead of the real owner they put "RF" hi
  5. frizzy
    frizzy 10 October 2020 16: 33
    0
    Don't scare us !!!!
  6. Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 10 October 2020 16: 35
    +8
    Quote: Corona without virus
    I responsibly declare - Sobyanin has the last term of mayorship ...

    Well, that means you will wear a mask. Until the last day of his mayor's office. He will not leave without earning ... For the kids for milk. yes
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 16: 40
      +3
      Quote: Lannan Shi
      Quote: Corona without virus
      I responsibly declare - Sobyanin has the last term of mayorship ...

      Well, that means you will wear a mask. Until the last day of his mayor's office. He will not leave without earning ... For the kids for milk. yes

      I absolutely do not mind wearing a mask !!! good
      I am against the fact that I should buy this very mask with my own money even when I am now officially unemployed am But instead of "screwing" everyone without masks - that Sobyanin would distribute masks to everyone without masks at the expense of the state - I would "close my eyes" to what Sobyanin managed to do with Moscow during his term in office ... maybe ...
      1. Lannan Shi
        Lannan Shi 10 October 2020 16: 51
        14
        Quote: Corona without virus
        I am against the fact that I should buy this very mask with my own money even when I am now officially unemployed

        Eck stole you. Forgive me for being rude, but I couldn't formulate it otherwise. Back in March, they explained to you, in Russian, that the bolivar is not rubber, and will only take out its own people. Well, we made a little mistake. Not enough for their identities. But you must understand that the country has already given everything it could, filling the trough for the most valuable members of society. Are you not a patriot? lol Do you put your personal benefit above the national one? lol The country makes what sacrifices it makes, gives the last, so that the trough does not become scarce. And you? You're just a nihilist and a subverter of foundations. yes
      2. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 17: 21
        +2
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        Quote: Corona without virus
        I am against the fact that I should buy this very mask with my own money even when I am now officially unemployed

        Eck stole you. Forgive me for being rude, but I couldn't formulate it otherwise. Back in March, they explained to you, in Russian, that the bolivar is not rubber, and will only take out its own people. Well, we made a little mistake. Not enough for their identities. But you must understand that the country has already given everything it could, filling the trough for the most valuable members of society. Are you not a patriot? lol Do you put your personal benefit above the national one? lol The country makes what sacrifices it makes, gives the last, so that the trough does not become scarce. And you? You're just a nihilist and a subverter of foundations. yes

        I'M A PATRIOT!!! SIMPLY, when our company was closed for the "fight" against the crown in the spring ... could I - already unemployed - "throw a bone" in the form of a free mask and rubber gloves ?! am
      3. nnm
        nnm 11 October 2020 06: 57
        0
        laughing laughing Sorry, could not resist laughing laughing
  7. vavilon
    vavilon 10 October 2020 16: 59
    +7
    In general, masks should be given out for free if it threatens a national catastrophe and not make a business out of it, for example, in France, every resident found a reusable mask in his mailbox.
  8. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 17: 23
    +4
    Quote: vavilon
    In general, masks should be given out for free if it threatens a national catastrophe and not make a business out of it, for example, in France, every resident found a reusable mask in his mailbox.

    And in Madrid, local cops handed out free masks to everyone who entered the subway without a mask !!! good
    And in the USA, free food distribution points were organized for everyone !!! And in ... there is too long a list of who did what in the world ... hi
  9. vavilon
    vavilon 10 October 2020 18: 25
    +6
    Yes ! but for some reason not with us,
    We can only boast of another millionaire who made millions out of a common misfortune.
  10. Phil77
    Phil77 10 October 2020 18: 20
    +2
    Quote: vavilon
    masks should be handed out for free if it threatens national disaster

    * Well, that the second wave is coming, and shouldn't we buy a second mask? *
    * When leaving the house, think about it! Is this exit worth the mask? * wink
  11. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 18: 47
    +3
    Quote: Phil77
    Quote: vavilon
    masks should be handed out for free if it threatens national disaster

    * Well, that the second wave is coming, and shouldn't we buy a second mask? *
    * When leaving the house, think about it! Is this exit worth the mask? * wink

    I now think with horror that in a week I will return from the dacha ... and that the cop's car will start circling again in our area from 9 am to 18 pm once a week and through the "matyugalnik" explain to us the "rules of the game" of self-isolation laughing
  12. Phil77
    Phil77 10 October 2020 18: 49
    +3
    Quote: Corona without virus
    and that once a week a cop car will start circling in our area from 9 am to 18 pm once a week and through the "matyugalnik" explain to us the "rules of the game" of self-isolation

    Not yet, Eastern Biryulyovo. bully
  13. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 18: 53
    +1
    Quote: Phil77
    Quote: Corona without virus
    and that once a week a cop car will start circling in our area from 9 am to 18 pm once a week and through the "matyugalnik" explain to us the "rules of the game" of self-isolation

    Not yet, Eastern Biryulyovo. bully

    "Never say never" - the name of an Indian film of my youth, which was shown in the USSR about 35 years ago bully hi
  14. Phil77
    Phil77 10 October 2020 19: 00
    +2
    Quote: Corona without virus
    "Never Say Never" is the title of my Indian film

    What's the movie, the plot, the stars?
  15. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 19: 17
    +2
    Quote: Phil77
    Quote: Corona without virus
    "Never Say Never" is the title of my Indian film

    What's the movie, the plot, the stars?

    Over the years ... what exactly, what I remember, it was a film about love and with the note "Children under 16 are not admitted" wassat well, of course, if you are only 14, and movie posters are posted on every corner, and you are NOT !!! am overlooked (special chic - go to the movie show at 23-00) - then you are a "loser" automatically become bully as you understand, I was not a "loser" even as a child hi
  16. Phil77
    Phil77 10 October 2020 19: 57
    +1
    Quote: Corona without virus
    Over the years ... what exactly, what I remember

    This I mean what the most, well, let's call it- * grossing *, * boy * film * eighties * was * Revenge and the Law *. Of course, this applies specifically to Bollywood! Is this a movie from the 80s?
  17. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 20: 02
    0
    Quote: Phil77
    Quote: Corona without virus
    Over the years ... what exactly, what I remember

    This I mean what the most, well, let's call it- * grossing *, * boy * film * eighties * was * Revenge and the Law *. Of course, this applies specifically to Bollywood! Is this a movie from the 80s?

    About revenge and the law - I don't remember exactly ... recourse well, or he did not pass under the stamp "Children under 16 years of age are strictly prohibited" wassat
    Never say when - exactly the 80s ... good I was 14 then ...
  18. nnm
    nnm 11 October 2020 07: 15
    -1
    Yeah .... "revenge and law" lol
    Not "Pirates of the XX century" or "Crew", but "revenge and law")))) and I will write
  19. Phil77
    Phil77 11 October 2020 07: 38
    0
    [B] [/ b]
    Quote: nnm
    Yeah .... "revenge and law"

    Good morning!
    Did you read it carefully? I immediately made a reservation.
    A / Film refers to Indian / filmed in India.
    I also mentioned B / About the age category.
    Have a good day!
  20. Phil77
    Phil77 11 October 2020 07: 41
    +1
    Quote: nnm
    "Pirates of the XX century" or "Crew

    About the leaders of the rental directly in 1980, I know. wink
  21. alekSASHKA-36
    alekSASHKA-36 16 October 2020 14: 02
    0
    Never Say Never Again is the third unofficial James Bond film directed by Irwin Kershner.
  22. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 19: 44
    +3
    Quote: Phil77
    Quote: Corona without virus
    "Never Say Never" is the title of my Indian film

    What's the movie, the plot, the stars?

    Okay ... the 25-year statute of limitations for my crimes as a child has long passed ... I will reveal the "secrets of the Madrid palace" how I was able to watch this film ... repeat wassat

    It was in the summer ... I was on vacation with my grandparents ... the fact that I was an avid fisherman was already then - literally "every dog" in the village knew ... good the fact that I went out several times a week on a fishing night until the morning was the same in the order of things ... that the parents of their "frostbitten" offspring trusted me - the same goes without saying ... laughing

    On day "X":
    - we (I) bribed a local drunkard for a couple of bottles of beer and he bought us a dozen tickets for 23-00 to the cinema for a film
    - in the afternoon we (I) bribed "little ones" of 10-12 years old for a kilogram of sweets and they caught us a couple of full cages of fish
    - at 22-00 we with the whole "crowd" went "fishing" together ... laughing
    - the entrance to the cinema for the last show at 23-00 cost us (12-15 years old teenagers) just a couple of bottles of beer "from the nose" to the ticket attendant (well, he's a janitor, he's a watchman at a cinema) yes

    ... in the morning we returned home with fish ... although even the fishing rods were not uncovered then tongue
  23. nnm
    nnm 11 October 2020 07: 19
    0
    Recently I read one phrase on the Internet: "They never lie like in war, before elections, and as a" crown "in VO".
  24. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 11 October 2020 14: 13
    0
    Quote: nnm
    Recently I read one phrase on the Internet: "They never lie like in war, before elections, and as a" crown "in VO".

    Yes, not fAPros !!! good
    For EVERY fact of "lies" of the "crown" "we clog the arrow at the notary" ...
    The crown lied - he will owe you a million rubles ...
    The crown told the truth - you will owe him a million rubles ...
    "Deal"?! drinks
  25. nnm
    nnm 11 October 2020 14: 29
    0
    I just want to clarify, and what do you propose to certify with a notary?))))
    Screenshots of the "crown" promises on VO?))))
    And it's easy to check, by the way, we take the subway at one endpoint and go to the other. And we look - "screw" us or not)))
    And, by the way, I want to clarify for the notary - "a million" for each purchase without "screw", or can you ride as much as you like and by the evening I will become Bezos?)))
  26. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 11 October 2020 15: 43
    0
    Quote: nnm
    I just want to clarify, and what do you propose to certify with a notary?))))
    Screenshots of the "crown" promises on VO?))))
    And it's easy to check, by the way, we take the subway at one endpoint and go to the other. And we look - "screw" us or not)))
    And, by the way, I want to clarify for the notary - "a million" for each purchase without "screw", or can you ride as much as you like and by the evening I will become Bezos?)))

    The technology is as simple as "5 kopecks")))
    1. I am rolling out "fact" here
    2. You do not agree - we go to the notary, "we are hammered" and immediately to the court
    3. The court makes a decision - "fact" takes place or not
    4. If it has - you owe me, if it doesn't - I owe you !!! good
  27. nnm
    nnm 11 October 2020 15: 51
    0
    Quote: Corona without virus
    I'm rolling out "fact" here

    Clear....)))
    That is, what you have already piled up here before, assuring everyone of your truthfulness, you will deign to "zero"?)))
  28. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 11 October 2020 16: 08
    0
    Quote: nnm
    Quote: Corona without virus
    I'm rolling out "fact" here

    Clear....)))
    That is, what you have already piled up here before, assuring everyone of your truthfulness, you will deign to "zero"?)))

    1. Firstly, "the service provided is not a service" (c)))) - it was once
    2. If, after visiting the "arrow" at the notary, we ride with you all day in the subway, you enter and exit without a mask and gloves, I will record this on video, the notary's assistant will immediately certify my videos ... then .. ... fellow I will become Croesus good I know who to submit to OFFICIALLY certified video recordings of your violation of the Law ... The one to whom I anticipate will immediately rise a couple of steps in the career ladder, you will be fined 5000 rubles for each case of entering the metro, + 15-30 days of administrative arrest for you, I will pay you your million, and I myself will receive a letter of gratitude from the Metropolitan Ministry of Internal Affairs and a modest penthouse ... in the center of Moscow ... repeat

    GATHERING ?! soldier
  29. nnm
    nnm 11 October 2020 16: 20
    0
    Excuse me, do you, in general, understand what nonsense you are talking about? You have watched the films with "notary's assistant to certify", "officially certified video recordings", "I know who to show the records" for each case 15-30 days ...
    Forgive me, but I really hope that you are just trolling out of a sense of humor, because otherwise I have to show extreme concern, at least, with the scarcity of your legal and legal knowledge, not to mention other concerns about prudence
    ... I really don't know a single person with more than 3 grades of education who would carry such nonsense! For you manage to come up with non-existent sanctions for yourself under the Code of Administrative Offenses, create an insane chain of their enforcement yourself, distort the provisions of the foundations of notaries and so on, so on, beyond recognition ...
    Sincerely.
  30. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 11 October 2020 16: 24
    0
    Quote: nnm
    Excuse me, do you, in general, understand what nonsense you are talking about? You have watched the films with "notary's assistant to certify", "officially certified video recordings", "I know who to show the records" for each case 15-30 days ...
    Forgive me, but I really hope that you are just trolling out of a sense of humor, because otherwise I have to show extreme concern, at least, with the scarcity of your legal and legal knowledge, not to mention other concerns about prudence
    ... I really don't know a single person with more than 3 grades of education who would carry such nonsense! For you manage to come up with non-existent sanctions for yourself under the Code of Administrative Offenses, create an insane chain of their enforcement yourself, distort the provisions of the foundations of notaries and so on, so on, beyond recognition ...
    Sincerely.

    I dare to assure you that in defending the rights of my Customers in court, through the registration of a "fact" with a notary with its subsequent fixation by an assistant notary for presentation in court - I am "dog ziv" !!! wassat tongue tongue
    In your case - "Not knowing the laws does not relieve you of responsibility" soldier
    Laws in the Russian Federation - they are ... laws ... repeat belay
  31. nnm
    nnm 11 October 2020 16: 30
    0
    Thank you for having fun.
  32. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 11 October 2020 16: 35
    0
    Quote: nnm
    Thank you for having fun.

    soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ... how did it come to real life - right into the bushes ?! laughing
    ON ROCK - 1 rubles. in just 000 day of riding in the subway ... if you insist on just such a "fact" ... repeat for any other fact I can "get lost" that I will write here soldier
  33. nnm
    nnm 11 October 2020 06: 59
    0
    Yeah ... a 1983 Bond film at the USSR box office, clearly understandable)))))
    I already read a gavriliad from the programmer-project manager - an unemployed person ...
    I can't tear myself away, I went on to read)))
  34. Phil77
    Phil77 11 October 2020 07: 50
    0
    Quote: nnm
    Bond film 1983 at the box office of the USSR, clearly understandable)))))

    There was also an Indian film with that name, but ... 2006. Although, you know, our distributors often sinned by renaming. So I fully admit that this film was somewhere under the name mentioned. Film * Who's Who * with Belmondo, remember ? In the original, the name is different- * Policeman or bandit *. This is just an example. wink
  35. nnm
    nnm 11 October 2020 07: 59
    0
    commercials 35 years ago
    Quote: Phil77
    There was also an Indian film with that name, but ... 2006.

    I sometimes read a respected colleague with a crown as the author of "A Thousand and One Nights" ....
  36. mat-vey
    mat-vey 10 October 2020 18: 35
    +5
    Quote: vavilon
    In general, masks should be given out for free if it threatens a national catastrophe and not make a business out of it, for example, in France, every resident found a reusable mask in his mailbox.

    What do you want, like in France? Although I think I've already heard this question somewhere ...
  37. Vadim237
    Vadim237 11 October 2020 10: 37
    -3
    "Generally, masks should be given out for free" - And those who will make these masks should also work for free?
  38. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 10 October 2020 18: 28
    +6
    Quote: Corona without virus
    I absolutely do not mind wearing a mask !!!

    In vain. For with each breath you breathe in with a mask, you inhale about 30% more carbon dioxide than when you breathe in without a mask. How this affects your health, I think there is no need to explain. First of all, this affects brain activity. hi
  39. nnm
    nnm 11 October 2020 07: 11
    -1
    Quote: Corona without virus
    Here, instead of "screwing" everyone without masks

    Not tired of inserting this lie into each branch?
  • Phil77
    Phil77 10 October 2020 18: 17
    +3
    Quote: Lannan Shi
    wear a mask.

    * This year, to scare people on Halloween, just come without a mask. * laughing
    1. polar fox
      polar fox 10 October 2020 19: 48
      +1
      Quote: Phil77
      to scare people on halloween

      you can't scare people, you just scare organisms)))
  • Phil77
    Phil77 10 October 2020 18: 38
    +2
    Quote: Lannan Shi
    will you wear a mask

    * If you put the mask in a container with alcohol overnight, then leaving the house in the morning will be easy and joyful. * wink
  • Svarog
    Svarog 10 October 2020 16: 54
    +7
    Quote: Phil77
    Or as a last resort.
    * I'll go to the British embassy!
    I know English. *

    Why on the extreme .. as soon as a big loot appears, they first of all are puzzled by the citizenship of "hostile" states ... whoever is smarter and plans to cut in Russia for a long time, they do not fire themselves, they make out through their relatives ..
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 16: 01
    +3
    Quote: Phil77
    Quote: Corona without virus
    Sobyanin will be removed -

    Will be removed ?????
    Zero! wink laughing

    Will they remove ... will they reset ... not the essence of the question tongue
    Luzhkov's wife is already remembered by the Muskwiches with hundreds of thousands of square meters of housing and office buildings, and Sobyanin's wife - the same with hundreds of thousands of square meters - but with tiles and curbs laughing

    As they say - "feel the difference" good lol
  • Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 12 October 2020 12: 23
    0
    Quote: Phil77
    Not far from my place of work, there is a former factory of Yuri Mikhailovich's wife. Well, how is it? Stood! There is a building, there is no factory. And this misfortune happened immediately after the removal of Luzhkov.

    Ay-yay-yay, like that. But Mrs. Baturina so sincerely and convincingly broadcast: "I have never used my husband's official position. I achieved everything myself". smile
  • Svarog
    Svarog 10 October 2020 16: 51
    +9
    Quote: Phil77
    Quote: Corona without virus
    Sobyanin, who bought the largest mask manufacturer in Russia - the KIT company.

    Plus the production of asphalt, plus tiles, plus a curbstone!
    And fines, fines, fines! laughing

    And yet the Sobyanins in Russia are dark in the dark .. they first go into edro, under the roof of edra they begin to climb into managers, and there they stir up the business ..
  • nnm
    nnm 11 October 2020 07: 05
    -2
    Quote: Corona without virus
    We must also mention Sobyanin, who bought the largest Russian mask manufacturer - KIT company

    By the way, was Sobyanin himself the buyer? .... or what?
  • Phil77
    Phil77 10 October 2020 15: 21
    +2
    Already the second article on the topic of a * virus * in two days. Why would that be?
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 10 October 2020 15: 36
      10
      What is it for?
      ... What would the people, let off steam ... in the comments .. laughing
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 10 October 2020 15: 38
        +4
        Quote: parusnik
        steam released ... in the comments ..

        Why rock the boat? laughing
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 10 October 2020 15: 42
          +7
          Why rock the boat?
          .. True, why .. rock the boat, full of holes .. smile
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 10 October 2020 16: 59
      12
      Quote: Phil77
      Already the second article on the topic of a * virus * in two days. Why would that be?

      Self-isolation .. or quarantine .. self-quarantine.
    3. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 10 October 2020 17: 00
      13
      Quote: Phil77
      Already the second article on the topic of a * virus * in two days. Why would that be?

      So besides, probably, we have a vaccine, the first in the world, for two months now. Yeah. And megatablets, It seems, too, from the first in the world. And how did it come to ... The situation turned out to be worse than in the spring, when none of this happened. yes So the question arises, at least for me, why was it necessary to puff out your cheeks, and scream to the whole world about your coolness, if in fact everything is even worse than it was?
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 10 October 2020 17: 21
        +7
        So besides, probably, we also have a vaccine, the first in the world,
        ... You know, for the first article, I wrote a similar comment, saying that there is a vaccine, we need to carry out a general vaccination. Someone answered me that you don't need to shake nonsense in order to vaccinate, you need to have a supply, they say, while there is not enough capacity ... ... We will have to wait with vaccination, so we will increase the capacities. you can remain yourself! smile
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 10 October 2020 18: 38
          0
          Quote: parusnik
          ... You know, to the first article, I wrote a similar comment, saying that there is a vaccine, it is necessary to carry out a general vaccination. Someone answered me that you do not need to shake nonsense in order to vaccinate, you need to have a supply,

          In in ... You wrote, but he makes me confess ....))
    4. vavilon
      vavilon 10 October 2020 18: 28
      0
      And besides that these were only flowers and berries still go :-)
  • Reviews
    Reviews 10 October 2020 15: 23
    0
    "Opening", damn it ...
  • parusnik
    parusnik 10 October 2020 15: 25
    +5
    Nevertheless, as practice shows, for some people the global crisis caused by the disease brought not ruin, but new super profits.
    "It just happens, it just happens - someone loses, someone loses, someone loses, and someone finds" (c) laughing
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 10 October 2020 18: 42
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      Nevertheless, as practice shows, for some people the global crisis caused by the disease brought not ruin, but new super profits.
      "It just happens, it just happens - someone loses, someone loses, someone loses, and someone finds" (c) laughing

      Well, not a war, of course, but what little crumbs you can earn .... Is it possible for "people" to kill millions of children, women, old people for profit, some kind of medical, but what is there any ethics?
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 10 October 2020 15: 27
    10
    Just recently, "Hochma" happened to me! I contrived to catch a cold in the gym ... the air conditioners were blowing too godlessly there! I decided to start with buying a thermometer and mustard plasters ... The first "surprise" ... with great difficulty I managed to find mustard plasters., And they warmed up "every other time"! .. The second problem was thermometers! A number of pharmacies said that there were no thermometers! And where they said there was, it turned out that ordinary mercury 40-ruble thermometers are sold with a load: a bottle of disinfectant liquid! And the cost of this "set" is 500 rubles! It was possible to find a "clean" thermometer without load ... 300 rubles is a mercury thermometer, once a 40-ruble thermometer! I did not find any electronic ones! No, I do not assure you that I went literally all the pharmacies, but still ... there is something to think about! This "Hochma" happened to me in Gelendzhik! PS This is what I think about when I hear the ruling regime's assurances that they are ready to meet the "2nd wave" of the coronavirus fully armed!
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 10 October 2020 16: 00
      0
      everything that you described about the sets is a violation of the law. as for simple mercury thermometers, they will soon disappear altogether and have increased in price only because of the virus. given that, in 2013, 90 states decided to phase out the use of mercury by 2020 under the Minamata Convention on Mercury. Russia joined this agreement in 2014 along with other 28 countries. According to this convention, the world will completely abandon the use of this metal in the manufacture of measuring instruments, lamps, antiseptic solutions, cosmetics for skin lightening. The main goal is to minimize contact with human household items containing mercury. Which means their complete disappearance in the coming years altogether. in fact, starting from this year, they generally cease to be produced and in general they should not be on sale. apparently concessions due to the virus and delayed time. I have smart watches on my hands so I don't need a thermometer)
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 10 October 2020 16: 24
        +8
        Did you prepare this speech for the Health Symposium? There yes (!) ... this speech will give a ride! And here ... you should step aside! What do you do here "blind and deaf" ?! I clearly and clearly wrote that I did not find electronic thermometers at all! And you, for an hour, are not an official? The manner of speaking is painful ... as in a speaker: "It seems to be correct in form, but in essence it is a mockery!"
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 10 October 2020 16: 57
          -8
          carry some kind of nonsense .... digital thermometers are in any online store. with next day delivery for example OZONE. in any electronics store like CSN or Eldorado.
          https://www.ozon.ru/category/termometry-meditsinskie-6260/
          have fun. As for the assessment of my manner of communication, I explained to you in simple language why they have risen in price. if this is a difficult text for you, what am I to blame?
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 10 October 2020 18: 40
            +3
            And about the fact that "the road is a spoon for dinner ..." you have not heard? Thermometers should be sold in pharmacies and medical equipment stores ... and not some "cloudy" online stores! You are talking nonsense ... trying to dump "from a sore head to a healthy one ..."
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 10 October 2020 20: 41
              -2
              they were always there for sale. and they are not muddy, but ordinary and accessible to any person anywhere in the world. if you cannot type in the search that you are looking for it is your problem. and no one else. where did you get the idea that they should be sold only in pharmacies and specials. stores? on what basis do you make such a statement? wake up for the 21st century in the yard.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 10 October 2020 18: 36
        +3
        Quote: carstorm 11
        and increased in value only because of the virus

        To whom the war, to whom the mother is dear. In Togliatti, from the beginning of the year, the price for computed tomography has increased from 2,5 thousand rubles. up to 4,5t rubles Moreover, in the CT emergency room you have to wait about 8 hours, 15 minutes are paid for, and in the same department.
        Chief physician Nikolai Rentz, a prominent United Russia Party member and secretary of the Rotary Club, a Masonic organization.
    2. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 10 October 2020 16: 34
      +3
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      Just recently, "Hochma" happened to me! I contrived to catch a cold in the gym ... the air conditioners were blowing too godlessly there! I decided to start with buying a thermometer and mustard plasters ... The first "surprise" ... with great difficulty I managed to find mustard plasters., And they warmed up "every other time"! .. The second problem was thermometers! A number of pharmacies said that there were no thermometers! And where they said there was, it turned out that ordinary mercury 40-ruble thermometers are sold with a load: a bottle of disinfectant liquid! And the cost of this "set" is 500 rubles! It was possible to find a "clean" thermometer without load ... 300 rubles is a mercury thermometer, once a 40-ruble thermometer! I did not find any electronic ones! No, I do not assure you that I went literally all the pharmacies, but still ... there is something to think about! This "Hochma" happened to me in Gelendzhik! PS This is what I think about when I hear the ruling regime's assurances that they are ready to meet the "2nd wave" of the coronavirus fully armed!

      You are lucky that you bought a regular thermometer !!! good Just today I went to our pharmacy in a summer cottage village 50 km from Moscow to buy a thermometer - the woman got a little sick - so they told me that the last time they had thermometers on sale was six months ago ... recourse crying I had to "bow" to the neighbors in the country for an ordinary thermometer ... am crying
      1. nnm
        nnm 11 October 2020 07: 25
        0
        Quote: Corona without virus
        Just today I went to our pharmacy in a summer cottage village 50 km from Moscow

        Colleague, in the middle of last week it was 35 km !!! Are you crawling away from Moscow with the whole village? And the proud name "cottage village" for the village was changed for some reason)))
    3. Svarog
      Svarog 10 October 2020 17: 03
      +9
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      ! This "Hochma" happened to me in Gelendzhik! PS This is what I think about when I hear the ruling regime's assurances that they are ready to meet the "2nd wave" of the coronavirus fully armed!

      You just misunderstood them .. when they talked about the second wave and fully armed, they meant that they would be ready to earn money .. In the first wave they were not ready .. and now they have prepared, the mask production has opened .. the vaccine is not clear. .but immediately invented .. In general, they are ready to cut the loot ..
    4. mat-vey
      mat-vey 10 October 2020 18: 45
      +1
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      that's what I think about when I hear the ruling regime's assurances that they are ready to meet the "2nd wave" of the coronavirus fully armed!

      Here about the antimonopoly committee they sang such praises, such praises ... And you mean everything is in a black light ...
    5. nnm
      nnm 11 October 2020 07: 22
      0
      Colleague, to be honest, the mercury thermometer has long been banned from circulation)))) precisely because of the presence of mercury))
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 11 October 2020 07: 57
        +1
        Quote: nnm
        mercury thermometer has long been banned for circulation)))) precisely because of the presence of mercury))

        And thank God ! But where are the electronic thermometers? In the pharmacies of the area where I wandered, they were not at all!
        1. nnm
          nnm 11 October 2020 08: 02
          0
          Demand, sir))))
          It's like with buckwheat - no matter how much you say that its reserves will be enough until the second coming - people taught by bitter experience "firmly and clearly - there will be no default!" , run and buy everything.
          And at the expense of the mustard plasters, you are right - some kind of nonsense is being sold. I also bought it once and gave it up. They barely warm.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 10 October 2020 15: 41
    +3
    Quote: BMP-2
    In fact, an epidemic is when the "epidemic threshold" is exceeded - the percentage of cases set for each disease out of the total population. For most diseases, this is 5% or 1%. Does anyone know what this threshold is for COVID - 19? Is it at least somewhere exceeded? Well, then this is not an epidemic, but hysteria!)

    On the previous wave, my acquaintances were ill. And now there are acquaintances. In one family, first the father fell ill, then the others, and all at once. His father died, his crown was not found. Others found it.
    1. BMP-2
      BMP-2 10 October 2020 16: 39
      +2
      I also have relatives and friends who were sick and even one who died with this diagnosis. I will say more: people have always died from viruses. The question is: why call an epidemic, and even more so a pandemic, that which, by definition, is not? And then what is it if not whipping up hysteria ???
  • AML
    AML 10 October 2020 15: 43
    +2
    Quote: Crown without virus
    We must also mention Sobyanin, who bought the largest mask manufacturer in Russia - the KIT company. laughing And now he is probably already on the list of the Russian top 100 Forbes. bully
    Called - "business in Russian" wassat You yourself issue laws, you yourself control their implementation - and money flows into your pocket like a river yes


    Well then, you should start with Donald Rumsfeld. twice the Minister of Defense and, by coincidence, a co-owner of a pharmaceutical company. So, in the context of your post, Sobyanin still give the unreasonable.

  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 10 October 2020 15: 52
    -3
    And what about the profit for manufacturers, a fine line.
    Let's say there is a scientist and a manager, and he sets himself the goal of wanting millions of dollars for a drug. And he works day and night, not spending on his family, she runs away from him, neither for sleep, nor for entertainment. And Millions of dollars no longer seem like a lot of compensation. And he invents a medicine, albeit an expensive one, but in a short time.
    And the second scientist, glad 30 thousand. Leaves work on time, spends time on his wife and entertainment, ir does not strain and invents, and not a fact in 20 years.

    I am for the first option, the medicine costs as much as it costs, the question is that there are no conditions to make money on such expensive medicines. If a medicine costs a million, then it’s worth it, but you have to earn ten.
    These are arguments about another country, about ours, where the scientist was not paid anything, but they brought money into a structure that would only allow them to trade at a price that would be expensive, and grind the other into powder, I am not talking.
    I still believe that it will be better, so I am thinking.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 10 October 2020 16: 02
    +7
    All countries went to this very pandemic. His attitude to health care, his usual life. Of course, the movers did not miss their moment. The world is poor medicine, not because it is poor because there are no progressive drugs and technology in it, but because it is paid for in a large volume, and our country has become the same as everyone else. If earlier the doctor could send a patient for prophylaxis, then at first, at best, he will ask if the patient has money. And it is better to remain silent altogether. The pandemic did not come from above, it was created by indifference and greed.
  • Charik
    Charik 10 October 2020 16: 15
    0
    you can not explain, just Announce the entire list of pzhlusta
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 10 October 2020 16: 16
    -11 qualifying.
    Quote: nikvic46
    All countries went to this very pandemic. His attitude to health care, his usual life. Of course, the movers did not miss their moment. The world is poor medicine, not because it is poor because there are no progressive drugs and technology in it, but because it is paid for in a large volume, and our country has become the same as everyone else. If earlier the doctor could send a patient for prophylaxis, then at first, at best, he will ask if the patient has money. And it is better to remain silent altogether. The pandemic did not come from above, it was created by indifference and greed.

    I am very happy about paid medicine. I have something to compare with, since now I have a VHI policy. It is a pity that not everything is included in it. Now there would be more salary, otherwise in dollars I have moved a lot in recent years. I consider this the future. You have to pay directly how much it costs. There is no free-of-charge. This is when doctors are not paid and they serve in the field without equipment. It's free. It is better to give money to people, they will directly choose treatment, and not to officials who will distribute for kickbacks.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 10 October 2020 17: 25
      10
      Read Moliere, "The Imaginary Patient", there is just about paid medical treatment ... smile
    2. Van 16
      Van 16 10 October 2020 17: 29
      +7
      "fortunately I now have a VHI policy"

      And where to get money for voluntary medical insurance for the "middle class" with a salary of 17000? Or retirees?
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 10 October 2020 18: 52
        -3
        Quote: Van 16
        "fortunately I now have a VHI policy"

        And where to get money for voluntary medical insurance for the "middle class" with a salary of 17000? Or retirees?

        Well, here again twenty-five ... it has been said and negotiated - you need to work better, start with yourself, you don't need to be lacking in initiative ... everything seems to be the main thing, and you don't need to thank for simple advice ...
        1. nikvic46
          nikvic46 10 October 2020 19: 45
          0
          Matvey: You shouldn't be reacting so hotly to an ordinary troll. There are many paid subjects in their ranks. I was convinced of this for a long time.
        2. Simargl
          Simargl 10 October 2020 21: 06
          +4
          Quote: mat-vey
          work better
          Yes Yes! Have you heard!
          It just so happened that no matter how much you work with the assigned salary of 17000, you won't get 40!
          Are there many offers on the labor market for 40 instead of 000?
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 11 October 2020 07: 57
            0
            Quote: nikvic46
            Matvey: You shouldn't be reacting so hotly to an ordinary troll. There are many paid subjects in their ranks. I was convinced of this for a long time.

            Quote: Simargl
            Quote: mat-vey
            work better
            Yes Yes! Have you heard!
            It just so happened that no matter how much you work with the assigned salary of 17000, you won't get 40!
            Are there many offers on the labor market for 40 instead of 000?

            you once again confirmed that it is not for nothing that budget money goes to the Internet of trolls - they seem to be smart people, but they rushed to frank banter and sarcasm like a dog on a piece of meat on a string ...
    3. New Year day
      New Year day 10 October 2020 19: 55
      +7
      Quote: imobile2008
      I am very happy with paid medicine. I have something to compare with, since now I have a VHI policy.

      how naive you are! request We often correct situations after VHI: the intestine or the esophagus, for example. Or maybe the uterus. Whoever is lucky. And immediately sent to the state hospital laughing
  • rocket757
    rocket757 10 October 2020 16: 18
    +9
    At all times, the rich have earned money from the troubles of people ... this is not news, in general.
    There were exceptions among states, but these were states of a completely different type, not capitalist .... this is just a reminder that we are asking for a sterlet!
  • depressant
    depressant 10 October 2020 17: 27
    +6
    How bankers try to cash in on epidemics.
    Sberbank CEO German Gref:
    "The use of paper money in cash poses a great danger to the spread of coronavirus, the Chinese experience has shown this ... I ask ... to address all our clients, in general, all residents of our country, use cash as little as possible at this time and use contactless payments." ...
    It is clear that contactless payments are a profit for banks.
    Economist Mikhail Khazin:
    “Unlike Gref, I really dealt with the issues of uncontrolled cash turnover. I can say that the modern Russian economy will simply disappear by 30-40 percent if this turnover is removed. Maybe Gref really wants this, but from the point of view of an ordinary Russian citizen, rather, it's bad. "
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 10 October 2020 17: 33
    +4
    What did you think?

    Stay at home and vote remotely for EDRo and lake cooperatives.
  • depressant
    depressant 10 October 2020 17: 59
    +4
    Law enforcers got on the trail of serial fraudsters selling large quantities of ventilators manufactured in the late 90s, that is, expired, such that if the patient dies not from the coronavirus, then from the use of the device. As many as two thousand products that have been gathering dust in warehouses for 15 - 20 years, one must think, as a result of the optimization of medicine. Structurally obsolete. In the Moscow region, the Kostroma and Sverdlovsk regions, security officials detained seven people on suspicion of fraud.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 10 October 2020 19: 14
    +4
    Coronavirus billions. Whom did the pandemic enrich and how?

    There is not enough strength and patience to discuss the obvious. How long can you talk about the topic? Already in the spring there were data on an increase in the total state of the Russian oligarchs. Look, maybe someone will be interested. (When watching, I had only one question: "Why does the Russian budget provide this old nag when the children do not have enough money for treatment?"
  • Buka001
    Buka001 10 October 2020 19: 50
    -1
    Yes, speculators have always made money on someone else's misfortune. It's as old as the world (
    1. depressant
      depressant 11 October 2020 00: 29
      +5
      Well, let's see how Rostec, headed by Chemezov, is capitalizing on the coronavirus.

      In the spring of 2020, due to the coronavirus epidemic, the government established a structure called the "Federal operator-coordinator to meet the needs of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation in certain types of medical devices." This meant the centralized supply of masks and protective suits. Roskhimzashita Corporation, a subsidiary of Rostec State Corporation, was appointed as the operator. And only it, the rest were not allowed to the state cake. Massive indignations of the business community began, antimonopoly regulators strained, a scandal broke out, the venture was curtailed, the government decree was frozen.
      But Rostec got money for this business! And where are the biosecurity suits and masks that he issued? They say something is unknown.

      Further, Rostec did not calm down, experiencing a passionate thirst for budget funds. And let’s, he says, enterprises under my control will dispose of consumables used in the service of coronavirus patients in a special way. Masks, there, dressing gowns, suits, gloves ... For this I would have thrown a couple of billions, eh? Forgive me, the doctors were indignant, such materials in a very short time, being sent to garbage containers, lose their infectious properties and go to the landfill already devoid of epidemiological danger, they are not infectious, they are just household waste!
      Okay, wiped out, says "Rostec" and enthusiastically enters from the other side. And let me rivet ventilators, eh? Here is my enterprise - my beloved daughter, the Ural Machine-Building Plant. We will use new technologies, let's go, eh? And 30 regions in the park of the epidemic conclude a contract for the supply of these "new technologies" - those that will subsequently burn. And the shock development of the 14 billion rubles allocated to Rostec from the budget begins by riveting devices according to outdated schemes from cheap Chinese spare parts with a monstrous added value of the final product. And again the antimonopoly regulator is straining, doctors are afraid to use dangerous flammable devices, but the funds have been mastered and dissolved in the bowels of Rostec.

      So Sobyanin is not alone. It is not even worth talking about the massive speculation with masks purchased in China against the background of online sales of masks collected from trash bins near supermarkets - such is the business!
      In general, a feast of sharks, large fish and small fish, boiling water. And in order for all this to flourish, law enforcement officers joined, massively driving citizens into masks and gloves and repressing the dull ones with fines ...

      I bought a familiar product for household disinfection of plumbing fixtures, and it was already wearing the "Virus protection!"
  • 9 Shaft
    9 Shaft 11 October 2020 15: 23
    0
    Money is such a thing that it doesn't seem to smell, but it shows how it is acquired. As they come, they go. They leave in different ways - more often they go to waste, they cannot be saved up, a hole immediately appears, diseases, deaths and other losses. And only probably for those who are lost with God, he both adds and adds. And those have a lot of joy. I doubt it.