Towers for Ukrainian BTR-4 will be purchased from a private company

Towers for the Ukrainian BTR-4 will be purchased from a private company. As stated in the message of the Kharkiv Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering named after A.A. Morozov (KMDB), which produces these armored personnel carriers, the towers will be produced at the private enterprise "Zavod Fregat".

"Zavod Fregat" won a tender for the supply of 15 towers for armored personnel carriers BTR-4, the contract for their supply will be concluded in the near future. According to the agreement, the towers will be delivered in three batches of 5 units in 45, 90 and 135 days, respectively, from the date of receipt of raw materials for their production, design documentation and advance payment.

State Enterprise "Kharkov Design Bureau for Mechanical Engineering named after A.A. Morozov "(KMDB) will purchase 15 sets of BTR-4E towers in assembly from ZAO" Plant "Fregat", for 9 522 725,10 UAH, which must be made according to the design documentation of the customer under the control of the military representative

- said in a statement.

Recall that at the end of April last year, the KMDB launched mass production of BTR-4 armored personnel carriers' bodies after the only supplier of bodies, Lozovskaya Forge and Mechanical Plant, was involved in a scandal with low-quality steel for armored personnel carriers. At the same time, numerous violations were reported in the production of hulls, poor-quality welding and painting.

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[iouris]

For the Armed Forces of the former Ukrainian SSR, armored personnel carriers only need reckless ones.

[Livonetc]

Towers are needed.
Otherwise, what will the reckless ones rotate.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Livonetc

Towers are needed.
Otherwise, what will the reckless ones rotate.

That yes Although there actually combat module(albeit in such and such a performance), but still they will stubbornly call him a tower.

PS Deranged on the outskirts and so too much, and so, "with a tower" at least some kind of reassurance ...

[Zementbomber]

This is yes yes Although there is actually a combat module (albeit in such and such a design), they will still stubbornly call it a tower.

Typical for Russians "deep knowledge of" materiel ". The BTR-4 can be equipped with both turrets (two- and three-seater) and combat modules of various types, or simply a remote-controlled machine gun mount a la tank under the NSVT-12.7. Report to the foreman so that he will report on command - to work on military sites - more accurate and detailed manuals are needed. And then people laugh and the effect is achieved opposite to the task set by the "cook".

[Ros 56]

Exactly, but the towers will probably be cement, specialist?

[Zementbomber]

OMG, well, Kuchma tried to explain to you: "Ukraine is NOT Russia!" We make towers from high-quality armored steel and with corundum filler. Unlike one [typeO] "power", posing as "rising from its knees" ...))

[Ros 56]

You fill it with emery, just from that group. Don't make people laugh, Banderlog.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Zementbomber

Typical for Russians "deep knowledge of" materiel ".

It is important to know not so much the materiel as knowledge of how things are in Ukraine, where even under international arms contracts they manage to do blatant rubbish without bothering to preserve state prestige, not to mention the fact that they absolutely do not care what is needed " ridny zhisnikov ", who are awarded with plastic medals in order to save brass. But the fact that 2/3 or 3/4 of the allocated amount will settle in the pockets of the customer and the winner of the competition for the manufacture of towers, there is no doubt about this, since your "geniuses of the financial hopak" even mattresses that have allocated millions of dollars for specific purposes, and could not explain where these billions were gone. And yet yes -

Quote: Zementbomber

Report to the foreman so that he will report on command - to work on military sites - more accurate and detailed manuals are needed. And then people laugh and the effect is achieved opposite to the task set by the "cook".

[Zementbomber]

absolutely do not care what will go to the needs of "ridny zhisnikami", who are awarded with plastic medals in order to save brass.

In short: this is another pron-fantasy based on the deplorable native Russian experience.
Which is a pr-fantasy - not will help. From the word "absolutely".

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Zementbomber

absolutely do not care what will go to the needs of "ridny zhisnikami", who are awarded with plastic medals in order to save brass.

In short: this is another pron-fantasy based on the deplorable native Russian experience.
Which is a pr-fantasy - not will help. From the word "absolutely".

Here read, your dreamers on your ukroresurse "fantasize" about fantastic plastic medals.
https://news.24tv.ua/ru/plastikovye-medali-dlja-veteranov-ato-chto-izvestno-novosti-ato_n1365624

[Zementbomber]

I do not care that the pron-resources fantasize "on the suction for a small share."
There is an official explanation of the Ministry of Defense and an official apology from the one who launched this pro.
Do you think that you can try to refute them with reference to the real AI, and not the Russian and pro-Russian information washes? OK, go ahead!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Zementbomber

I do not care that the pron-resources fantasize "on the suction for a small share."
There is an official explanation of the Ministry of Defense and an official apology from the one who launched this pro.
Do you think that you can try to refute them with reference to the real AI, and not the Russian and pro-Russian information washes? OK, go ahead!

Go to bed, poor wretch. I'm not interested in this

[Zementbomber]

So I would say - "I am merging." "In 10-day" federal culinary courses "- I was not taught to resist the graduates of the Academy."

[Normal ok]

Well, shouldn't you tell the "miners" miners how they won the "unequal" battle ...

[Zementbomber]

So - why is there to tell something?
It is a well-known fact: due to large losses and the complete demoralization associated with them, the initially full-blooded motorized infantry brigade "Miners' Division" was reorganized into an incomplete light infantry battalion and withdrawn to the rear. Moreover, it was withdrawn to the rear at a time when even military doctors stood up in front of the separatist-Russian biomass - which, KGBE, clearly hints at what happened to this "subdivision brigade" ... ooo ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: iouris

For the Armed Forces of the former Ukrainian SSR, armored personnel carriers only need reckless ones.

Well, there are enough reckless ones without armored personnel carriers

[yehat2]

and from whom will Ukrainian armored personnel carriers buy towers?
domestic specifically flow

[tihonmarine]

Quote: yehat2

and from whom will Ukrainian armored personnel carriers buy towers?
domestic specifically flow

On "Privoz" in Odessa in bulk of this and other junk.

[Avior]

Life does not stand still.
The main Odessa market is 7 kilometers :))

[Niel-le-Calais]

Quote: Avior

The main Odessa market is 7 kilometers :)

well, actually it is not Odessa. And Ovidiopolsky. To be more precise
And so it is only the largest market in Europe and a large taxpayer to the country's treasury.
Mini city of trade (equal to Ishmael)
But you can certainly try to order the towers for the BTR 4 there.
And even on Privoz ..

[Avior]

This is the outskirts of Odessa, there will be another 30 kilometers to Ovidiopol.
Although it is located on the Ovidiopolsa road, this street in Odessa is also called that.
I served there like that for 2 years :), the market, however, did not exist yet at that time
Where the market is, our broadcasting radio center was, I don't know how now

[venik]

Quote: iouris

For the Armed Forces of the former Ukrainian SSR, armored personnel carriers only need reckless ones.

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"....According to the agreement, the towers will be delivered in three parties by 5 items via 45, 90 and 135 days, respectively, from the date of receipt of raw materials for their production, design documentation and advance payment. .... "
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Yes! At this rate ..... Towers on all "crazy" obviously will not be enough!!!

[cat Rusich]

Quote: iouris

For the Armed Forces of the former Ukrainian SSR, armored personnel carriers only need reckless ones.

Here is the BTR-60P ... Are they like that?

[TermNachTer]

Evil you))) cutting the budget is a fascinating experience. You need to understand that the company appeared a couple of days before the tender))) I would also like to see the list of founders

[Alien From]

Ex-brothers got to the handle ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alien From

Ex-brothers got to the handle ..

They did not "reach the point", it should have happened immediately after the proclamation of "independence" without any other options, only "complete collapse".

[Well done]

5 towers will take 45 days ?! The scale of some kind of tire fitting in the outback. The intoxicating master tinsmith Bogdan will fulfill the order ...

[svp67]

Quote: Welldone

5 towers will take 45 days ?! The scale of some kind of tire fitting in the glo

Well, judging by the site of Zavod Fregat, its main products were

The plant produces ship deck equipment, sprinklers, mill and elevator equipment, agricultural machinery, as well as metal products and metal structures.

Something I didn't see the towers here ...

[Well done]

What are we talking about. The "master" will take the hack home.

[Piramidon]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Welldone

5 towers will take 45 days ?! The scale of some kind of tire fitting in the glo

Well, judging by the site of Zavod Fregat, its main products were

The plant produces ship deck equipment, sprinklers, mill and elevator equipment, agricultural machinery, as well as metal products and metal structures.

Something I didn't see the towers here ...

It is from the waste of the main production that towers will be made.

[evgen1221]

The logical result is that there are no specialists, no metallurgy, no workers, no complete sets. There is probably no money either. And how they rode. However, if I had finished the comment on this proposal, I would have received at least 20 plus signs from the urapatriots. But we are also not far behind on the issue of fighting hopak instead of real deeds.

[Real Pilot]

The towers there have been torn down for a long time ... Specifically!

I am surprised that KMDB cannot make towers, given their experience and even the development of design documentation. It seems that this is again a banal embezzlement of the state defense order through private traders.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: RealPilot

The towers there have been torn down for a long time ... Specifically!

Why a tower, here is the latest development of an infantry fighting vehicle, based on the "Makhnovist" tachanka.

[mark2]

It was not he who won the tender. Whoever gives cheaper wins the tender. In general, it will be seen what will come of it.

[CBRE FB]

This is called "cooperation". The whole world works like that, except for North Korea and some other

[faiver]

So what? Yes, even in the forge at Uncle Mykola's, we won't buy these armored personnel carriers

[Piramidon]

Quote: faiver

So what? Yes, even in the forge at Uncle Mykola's, we won't buy these armored personnel carriers

Let Indonesia and Thailand have a headache.

[Piramidon]

My disrespectful regular minus, if you have, besides hatred for me, at least a fraction of your mind, except the ability to press the "minus" button, write at least one SMART objection to my posts. Or is your mind only capable of this? I don't care about your minuses. Just wondering when and how I stepped on your Svidomo tail?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: askort154

Poroshenko produced armored boats. Ze will release armor-towers. This will be the tradition of the presidential commanders of Ukraine.

Well, what kind of armor is next?
Armored President?

[tralflot1832]

Who does not see Poroshenko's ears by chance? Who is the owner of the Frigate plant?

[Piramidon]

Quote: tralflot1832

Who does not see Poroshenko's ears by chance? Who is the owner of the Frigate plant?

The Management Board of PJSC "Plant" Fregat "is a collegial executive body that manages its current activities and organizes the implementation of decisions of the General Meeting of Shareholders and the Supervisory Board.

Chairman of the Management Board of PJSC "Plant" Fregat "- Andrey Vyacheslavovich Kupkov.

And who does this Kupkov have to Poroshenko ...

[tralflot1832]

I wrote to Poroshenko to look for who is the owner of the Frigate. I did not claim that he was. I apologize, thanks for the hard work! And the towers are not at the price of armored personnel carriers, there are cuts everywhere!

[Niel-le-Calais]

Quote: Piramidon

And who does this Kupkov have to Poroshenko.

judging by the summary, not related
He served in Baikonur, and began his career in Georgia, and in Ukraine he worked in metallurgy (Nikopol)
And he is mobile enough if he is invited to work in another country.
https://www.work.ua/ru/resumes/2685952/

[maktub]

Dementienko Alexander, ultimate beneficiary

[maktub]

If I am not mistaken, LKMZ was also a private office
What surprised you? The tender was transparent, the conditions were met, the military acceptance will be ...

[tralflot1832]

1 million 300 rubles for a metal structure, is this normal?

[maktub]

Recalculate 9,5 million for 15 sets

[tralflot1832]

You are the only one with such big-eyed, noticed that I have virtually 452 rubles from the tower stuck to my hands.

[maktub]

It is bad that it is virtually, it would be better with "cash" and for real

[Niel-le-Calais]

Plant "Fregat" is one of the largest Ukrainian manufacturers of equipment for agriculture, food and processing industries, marine engineering and hydraulics products, equipment for basic industries, consumer goods
Of course, doubts are caused by the fact that all the same products for military purposes.
But. Many examples of how private non-military factories calmly cope with military orders better than military ones. Moreover, the acceptance will be. And all the shortcomings will then make a bad advertisement for the tenders of the future.