Satellite images: the US press announced the proof of the presence of F-16 fighters in Azerbaijan

The American media published materials stating that Armenia was right in announcing the transfer of F-16 aircraft from Turkey to the territory of Azerbaijan. It should be reminded that earlier in Yerevan it was stated that Turkey has transferred its fighters to the Ganja airfield and is using them in an armed conflict. In particular, it was alleged that one of the Turkish F-16s shot down a Su-25 attack aircraft of the Armenian Air Force.

Without commenting on the statements about the alleged downed attack aircraft, the information resource The Drive publishes satellite images of the Azerbaijani airfield on its military-themed tab. As noted, at least two F-16 fighters can be seen in these images. The Azerbaijani Air Force does not have such equipment, which means only one thing - the F-16s were transferred from a foreign country. Considering that earlier in Ankara they declared their readiness to provide any assistance to Baku, including military-technical, it can be assumed that these are Turkish combat aircraft.

American columnist Joseph Trevithick notes that F-16s are located at the Ganja airfield. This is the same airfield that the troops of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic tried to fire at the other day.

Trevithick:

This is the first irrefutable proof that at least some of these aircraft were in the country after fighting broke out between it and its neighbor Armenia over the long-contested Nagorno-Karabakh region.

It is noted that Chris Tribert of Visual Investigations was among the first journalists to pay attention to airplanes. He writes on Twitter that he is closely following the changes taking place at the military airfields of Armenia and Azerbaijan in connection with the armed conflict that has flared up with renewed vigor.

At the moment, the Azerbaijani side has not officially commented on the appearance of publications in the Western media with satellite images of the Ganja airfield.

Comments

[Mavrikiy]

Satellite images: the US press announced the proof of the presence of F-16 fighters in Azerbaijan

These will shit. If only we could play off Turkey. Putin is doing everything neatly.

[Zaurbek]

RF with the Turks and do not have to pit it for a long time ..... the Turks themselves will provide a reason. Su24 will be shot down again, for example.

[Zhan]

Quote: Zaurbek

RF with the Turks and do not have to pit it for a long time ..... the Turks themselves will provide a reason. Su24 will be shot down again, for example.

Now the Turks have become much more circumspect.

[Tatyana]

The war between Armenia and Azerbaijan is unfolding mainly in the interests of Aliyev himself because of the pressure on him from the internal nationalist opposition, which suddenly also became unhappy with the fact that the Aliyevs have ruled the country for too long in a nationalist sense to no avail.
Moreover, the heating up of this nationalist opposition comes precisely from Turkey and not only as a supposedly "brotherly" people - the Turks and the Azerbaijanis - but also from the incitement of Islamism in Azerbaijan.
On this occasion, as early as September 30, 2020, political scientist Sergei Mikheev spoke very correctly about RED LINES in the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, expanding our somewhat trivially limited general view of this problem of war and peace in Nagorno-Karabakh. And it looks like he was right about Aliyev.

No wonder Aliyev said about pigs ... Armenia does not need Russia! All our conversations go down the drain! September 30, 2020 Sergey Mikheev

[Bakinec]

Aliyev leader. It is enough to watch Aliyev's interview on the first channel or 60 minutes program to understand that none of the Armenian politicians is suitable for him.

[Tatyana]

I agree with you that “none of the Armenian politicians can hold a candle to Aliyev”.
However, any leaders are also people and nothing human is alien to them either. Leaders can have ups and downs too. And the reasons for this can be very different and often purely external. For not a single state on Earth lives in its own vacuum - i.e. separate from the national interests of other countries and states.
The same is happening with Aliyev. Aliyev also changes over time.

Unfortunately, Aliyev has already fallen into the cage of the Ottoman Erdogan and, accordingly, Azerbaijan will become a hostage of Turkey itself. This circumstance will in no way bring anything good to the peoples of Armenia, Azerbaijan, or RUSSIA itself! That's bad!

Russia's interest in the situation around Azerbaijan and Armenia. (See first 45 min.) Navalny - is the boy playing too much or? • Oct 2. 2020 Sergey Mikheev

[vmo]

Well, what to want from the six Americans, they gave money, bought a crowd, the Armenians are greedy for free, the result is obvious.

[yehat2]

Quote: Zhan

Turks have become much more circumspect

no
for the Turks, the brakes only work when it's too late, when everything has already happened.
this point was well described by Satanovsky and an expert on turkey.
I am sure that the behavior of the Turks will continue to create a lot of incidents.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: yehat2

Turks have brakes only

When they get nagged again.

[Maverick1812]

And we, for example, will stop buying tomatoes! Boldly we will answer ...

[rocket757]

And we sho, on Turkey within our society, at least some common opinion what?
In what proportion do we have a loves / dislikes ratio to Turkey ???
Anyway, to which country do we have an established negative attitude ??? So Schaub definitely and definitely said that this is just not a friend?
Our country is big, people think differently.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

In what proportion do we have a love / dislike ratio to Turkey?

Very interesting relationship to the Turks. When our people go on vacation to Turkey, everything is in good shape, and when the Turks shoot down our planes and shit, we are indignant. That's the ratio.

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

And we sho, on Turkey within our society, at least some common opinion what?
In what proportion do we have a loves / dislikes ratio to Turkey ???
Anyway, to which country do we have an established negative attitude ??? So Schaub definitely and definitely said that this is just not a friend?
Our country is big, people think differently.

Greetings!

The trouble lies elsewhere, with such a policy of inaction, we are losing the Caucasus, Central Asia is next, and the Turks can come everywhere ... it's time for us to act.

[rocket757]

Welcome
We stumble over the same thing over and over again!
to act, especially, no one, nor what exactly needs to be done, we can’t figure it out ... and even the excessive greed of some has no limits.
The most reasonable thing is to deal with your country with all care, according to the mind. And to move outwardly only what is good for the country, and not for some broken faces.
I can't imagine how this can happen now.

[cniza]

Yes, this was published a long time ago, and we are thinking about what to do:

Judge for yourself: Chapter 4 of the report, entitled “Geopolitical Measures”, contains exactly 6 points, and in this particular order: 1. Granting lethal weapons to Ukraine; 2. Stepping up support for the "rebels" in Syria; 3. Organization of regime change in Belarus; 4. Using the potential to create tensions in the South Caucasus; 5. Decrease in the level of Russian presence and influence in Central Asia; 6. Termination of the presence of Russia in Moldova. These are the brief theses - with appropriate recommendations for each item, of course. And what, tell me, from this list has not been fulfilled? Well, yes, the last point. So the presidential elections in Chisinau on November 1 ...

[rocket757]

All point by point, one might say on the shelves laid out!
Okay, don't boom our upper ones to criticize ...
How is EVERYONE now "luring the victim" into their nets? Yes, like BEFORE, LIKE ALWAYS !!! Their exclusivity, attractiveness, various "buns / cookies and" and other nishtyaks that they have, so that is, but not the fact that they will give them a victim later!
And how can we attract neighbors to our side ???
It is clear that the process is much more complicated, organized and costly, but the initial message is that you need to be attractive, desirable, etc.

[cniza]

In general, I try to criticize anyone, especially the top ones, I rely only on myself, I hope that everything will be as beneficial for our country and I believe in it.

[rocket757]

The most faithful, correct .... criticize! offer an alternative, other solutions !!!
We are mainly engaged in criticism !!! Himself such, what is already there .... what is, that is.

[cniza]

We do not have enough statesmen in power, and so criticize, do not criticize is useless ...

[yehat2]

even tsarist russia with flabby faces was able to conduct an active foreign policy
and it was no coincidence that there was a time when the territory of Russia was from the eastern border of Germany to the outskirts of Beijing, Korea and Alaska.
and now the Russian Federation is helpless. Mainly because the elite continues to believe that according to Gaidar, everything you need can be bought by stealing money from the population.

[rocket757]

It was different in those days, there were losses, losses, gains and victories!
Boom to watch what we have going on now!
I don't like a lot, both in general and in particular, and with the pressure of negativity that falls on us from behind the hill, it will be very difficult to survive by itself.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: yehat2

Mainly because the elite continues to believe that according to Gaidar, everything you need can be bought by stealing money from the population.

The return to serfdom (when the elite thinks that it is easier to make money by imposing direct payments on the people in their own pockets, rather than to create some kind of production and try to compete with someone somewhere) in the context of globalization creates a dependent position of the people, and through him and the country itself, not only in relation to internal forces (as was the case under classical serfdom), but also in relation to external ones. In such conditions, there is no need to talk about any effective foreign policy. And the further, the more.
If you are a capitalist with a factory, then in the conditions of globalization you will fight with your neighbors for markets and raw materials, thereby defending, willingly or unwillingly, the interests of your country.
And if you are a master with serfs, then the main thing for you is that your offspring is accepted "in the light" (and the "light" in the current globalization knows where), so that you are allowed to build a villa in more heavenly places than your harsh Fatherland. For these things, you will not only have no interest in defending your country, but you will also regularly assign your serfs to foreign buyers in order to get their local currency, which you pay for the offspring "in the world", and for the villa "in paradise".

[ZEMCH]

Quote: rocket757

And we sho, on Turkey within our society, at least some common opinion what?
In what proportion do we have a loves / dislikes ratio to Turkey ???

There are many Turkish companies in the construction field, even when the sanctions were imposed, all working Turkish construction companies continued to work

The Russian government has compiled a list of Turkish construction companies that will be allowed to continue to operate in the country following the imposition of sanctions. The list includes Enka, IC Ictas, Renaissance Construction, Ant Yapi, Mebe and Odak Group, Kommersant reports, citing one of the federal officials. These companies will be allowed not to terminate existing contracts and fulfill their obligations in Russia, but they will not enter into new contracts with them,

The total annual turnover of Turkish developers in Russia is estimated at 30-50 billion rubles, according to Kommersant. Contracting work generates 70% of this amount, the remaining 30% comes from Turkish developers. A third of the total turnover is associated with work in cities with a population of one million, another 25-30% of Turkish companies earn in Moscow and the Moscow region. Currently, 70% of monolithic buildings in the capital are built by companies from Turkey, one of the Russian developers told Kommersant. According to him, in the event that Turkish companies leave the market, it will be difficult for business class housing builders to find a replacement for them.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: ZEMCH

when the sanctions were imposed, all working Turkish construction companies continued to work

Not true. A bunch of contracts were taken from them. The same Central Ring Road (a ring around Moscow, much more serious than the Moscow Ring Road) should have been built by the Turks. They took the pie from them, now with a mustache (with varying degrees of success, though).

Your link says that the Turks were only allowed to complete the contracts they started. New - stopped giving.

[Keyser soze]

Putin is doing everything neatly.

Your Putin looks like a school mumbler. Very concerned. If now the Americans support the Armenians, secretly or openly, they will show you to the exit.

The Congress contains a declaration of democrats condemning Azerbaijan as aggressors.
The Netherlands is considering a statement by the Parliament condemning Aliyev and Azerbaijan and providing for sanctions ... The West is unwinding a little.

[SeregaBoss]

They forgot to ask you, or rather Putin forgot to ask you what to do.
And let Europe and others do what they want and do, we do not care from the highest bell tower! Are the sanctions being prepared? Are you seriously?

[Linxs]

Are the sanctions being prepared? Are you seriously

?

Just don't talk about the benefits of sanctions, please.

[no better place for]

They always hope that someone will die for them, and they, as always, run from one camp to another.

[Zhan]

Quote: Keyser Soze

The Congress contains a declaration of democrats condemning Azerbaijan as aggressors.
The Netherlands is considering a statement by the Parliament condemning Aliyev and Azerbaijan and providing for sanctions ... The West is unwinding a little.

Question! Why the hell are your Western democrats sticking their long nose in the Caucasus? What is your interest there? Is it really only out of philanthropy and for world peace ?!
I do not believe....!!! Try to surprise me!

[Alena-Baku]

Unlike Gorbachev and Yeltsin, Putin never makes decisions that do not meet Russia's interests, and Azerbaijanis and Armenians will sometimes hate for this. But it is worth noting that Putin's presence in power is beneficial to Azerbaijan, given that under other leaders in Russia, the Armenians quickly found an approach to them, and they were guided by the interests of Armenia rather than Russia. But both countries must understand that Russia is a hygemon and it will always not be worth looking for someone on the side.

[Keyser soze]

beneficial to Azerbaijan,

Yes, it is already clear to everyone that you are Turkish sixes and will do what the hegemon in Ankara will let you down. Your army is under the command of the Turks, F16 on your airdromes, your economy is Turkish ... So take ibrik and get to work ...

[no better place for]

Said the Bulgarians who move from one owner to another once every 30 years

[CSKA]

Quote: Keyser Soze

Yes, it is already clear to everyone that you are Turkish sixes and will do what the hegemon in Ankara will let you down. Your army is under the command of the Turks, F16 at your aerodromes, your economy is Turkish ..... So take ibrik and to work.

Smiling, what are you talking about? Six is ​​your Bulgaria. Licking everyone who will give a pretty penny. And now you sit scared and whine in the hope that the Russian Federation will go against Turkey. Our leader does everything right and does not accept either side. We need to be friends with both.

[Roman1970_1]

Russia is a hygemon and it will always not be worth looking for someone on the side.

Can I translate into readable Russian?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Keyser Soze

Putin is doing everything neatly.

If now the Americans support the Armenians, secretly or openly, they will show you to the exit.

And if not? :)

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Keyser Soze

If now the Americans support the Armenians, secretly or openly, they will show you to the exit.

Well, well, do you believe the Anglo-Saxons? It is not for nothing that the second largest US embassy in the world in the world is in Armenia, no matter how this friendship ends again in 1915.
How will the US support Armenia there? Patriots or Abrams?

[Rostislav]

And then Russia does not know what the Turks are doing there. No intelligence is required from the journalist.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Mavrikiy

These will shit. If only we could play off Turkey.

Definitely! And I have a question for specialists: If F-16s are not in service with Azerbaijan, then how high is the likelihood of their basing on Azerbaijani airfields? Without a specialized service infrastructure, all kinds of diagnostic tools for onboard systems and other gadgets. Or is it nothing more than refueling?

[Kerensky]

Or is it nothing more than refueling?

Even refueling requires tricky devices ...

[kit88]

Yes, it is not a special problem to relocate several aircraft to work from a "bare" airfield. For preparation for flights and simple mandatory checks - a couple of transports for the transfer of l / s squadron with their SNOP. Naturally, l / s and OBATO means - special transport, such as nitrogen, mvslenka, oxygen, APA, air, fire ... A group of management, flight personnel, special officers, waitresses, cooks ...
If anyone needs to be bombed, then from the Base - weapons. From the regiment - specialists with their own equipment for checking.
No problems, we transport everything and fly.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: kit88

Yes, it is not a special problem to relocate several aircraft to work from a "bare" airfield.

Thank you for the information.

[TermNachTer]

Base dear "tsatzki" in the area of ​​operation of the MLRS? This is hardly a reasonable decision

[iouris]

Quote: Mavrikiy

If only we could play off Turkey.

It's impossible. We cannot be crushed!

[Sergey Sfiedu]

"These will shit." - hurt the logic. When the Americans bring the Sultan to clean water, it's bad. And the fact that the Turks subjugated Azerbaijan and unleashed a completely unnecessary war for us is good. As a result, two countries - Armenia and Azerbaijan forever left our sphere of influence, and the extremist and aggressive Turkey, which does not hide its views on Russian Turks and Russian Muslims - came to our borders.

[Arthur]

These pictures were taken on October 3, now this military airfield was blown up and nothing suitable for flight was left there))))))

[Bakinec]

Yes, ara, already f16 will not be able to bomb Yerevan. And what will Arsrun Hovhannisyan (the herald of mo Armenia) do, he shot down three f16 every day. And where is the evidence about October 3

[Cyril G ...]

Are you serious? Study the question of what happened to the defeat of 40-42 cruise missiles of Ash-Shayrat. At least I counted that many hits. If the airfield was covered with Tornadoes from Sevan. The range will allow there. It was necessary to hit with a miniature battery, what can we say about the defeat of the site in front of the airport building. See the photo where the F-16s are.

[Lionnvrsk]

It is said that Armenia, declaring about the transfer of F-16 aircraft from Turkey to the territory of Azerbaijan, was right.

You might think that someone doubted this.

[Bakinec]

In August and September, exercises were held in Azerbaijan with the participation of Turkish troops. Used including F16. Where is the proof that this is not a photo from September or August? As in the Russian media, there is a sufficient number of Armenians in the American and French media. And it is natural that in order to hide the mediocrity of their troops and to force Azerbaijan to stop, they throw out various fakes. If Syrians or Turks fought against Armenians in Azerbaijan, Russia would have stopped Azerbaijan long ago.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Bakinec

If Syrians or Turks fought against Armenians in Azerbaijan, Russia would have stopped Azerbaijan long ago.

War is evil, it's time to sit down peacefully, think about it and end the war. We lived with the tsar grandfather, and under the grandfather Stalin peacefully, so everything can be solved now.

[Blanket]

There is a lot of information and photos about the importation of militants from Idlib and the export of their remains back, moreover, the militants themselves and their relatives post it. In Syria, there are no active b / d and payments have dropped significantly, and in Karabakh they promise to pay $ 1,5-2 tons. At the same time, funny things happen:

Kurdish Rojava Network about Syrian militants in Azerbaijan, based on pro-Turkish sources:

1. Arrival in the Azerbaijani territories of a number of leaders of the groups supported by Turkey. Leaders include: Saif Abu Bakr, leader of the Hamza Division terrorists and Fahim Issa, commander of the Sultan Murad Division.
2. The commanders passed orders to Turkish intelligence, checking the phones of operatives and preventing them from communicating with the agencies or filming videos, which is a red line for Turkey.
3. Accordingly, cell phones belonging to Syrian fighters will be confiscated with more scrutiny, provided that they are allowed to wear them and communicate with their families every two or three days for a limited period.
4. Turkish intelligence raided and arrested a number of members of the "Hamza division" who were taking selfies on one of the fronts in Azerbaijan and took them away in an unknown direction.
5. Turkish intelligence requested the deployment of 1300 Syrian mercenaries, 300 of whom were deployed to Azerbaijan.
6. It is worth noting that most of the Syrian mercenaries in Azerbaijani territories are rebelling to return to Syria because of the severity of the fighting.
7. A human rights organization from Afrin: A mass escape has taken place in the recruiting camps for Azerbaijan in the Jinderes region of the occupied Afrin countryside. Dozens of Syrian mercenaries fled. (Also a Turkish officer was killed there yesterday).

Some militants in Idlib scold those who have left for abandoning the holy war with Assad and leaving for "big money"
Moreover, the Azerbaijani government itself uploads a photo about the presence of the Turkish military in the same Ganja.

[Bakinec]

See Kurdish media referring to about Turkish sources. This is already the apogee of fakemetania

[ashot1973]

I have the honor!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBhkQLqJ9qw

[Evil543]

How would we talk about the American media in an article?

[CSKA]

Quote: Bakinec

If Syrians or Turks fought against Armenians in Azerbaijan, Russia would have stopped Azerbaijan long ago.

What kind of F-16 pictures are there, new or old, I don't know, but what I have seen more than one video with Syrian militants, I can say for sure. They themselves are happy to post photos of their stay in Azerbaijan.

[Bakinec]

Show a photo or video. At least give a link. Or admit that you are a liar

[CSKA]

Quote: Bakinec

Show a photo or video. At least give a link. Or admit that you are a liar

Please:
https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/politics/20201008/24818342/Seychas-nasha-bitva-v-Azerbaydzhane-v-Sirii-verbuyut-naemnikov--video.html
https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/10/06/boevik-iz-sirii-zadacha-bystro-prodvinutsya-vglub-karabaha-na-7080-km
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MAMWxU504c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq6N6c4a2qQ
https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/10/01/v-odnom-boyu-v-nagornom-karabahe-pogibli-srazu-30-siriyskih-boevikov
Well, let's now tell them that this is all editing or staging.

[Bakinec]

Naturally, the setting. Tell me that these shots could not be filmed somewhere in the Armenian Vardenis.

[CSKA]

Quote: Bakinec

Naturally, the setting. Tell me that these shots could not be filmed somewhere in the Armenian Vardenis.

Well, I'm not surprised. All videos of Azerbaijanis are pure truth, and all videos of Armenians, of course, are pure lies.))) It's only strange that the special services of some countries are equally claiming the same thing, that the militants are fighting. And of course you didn't have any losses in the early days, only now they are confidential.)

[ashot1973]

If Syrians or Turks fought against Armenians in Azerbaijan, Russia would have stopped Azerbaijan long ago.

-For those who still doubt ...
https://rusmonitor.com/arabskie-nayomniki-pribyli-v-karabah-dlya-vojny-s-armeniej-video.html
Here is the radio interception of the Armenian special services ...
https://world.segodnya.ua/world/wnews/v-erevane-vylozhili-peregovory-arabskih-naemnikov-eto-ne-voyna-a-myasorubka-1480481.html
And this is for information ...
https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5f74be499a79471673c0dd5d
https://iz.ru/1070104/2020-10-06/naryshkin-zaiavil-o-pribytii-terroristov-v-nagornyi-karabakh

[Bakinec]

Among the evidence you have provided, only this emoticon in a helmet is real. The rest are either photos taken from an unknown location, fakes of the special services armies and general articles.

[CommanderDIVA]

Even if there are Turkish F-16s in the skies of Azerbaijan, the Armenians received SU-30 under the contract, let them localize this problem

[Zaurbek]

The war is going on in Karabakh ... not in Armenia.

[CommanderDIVA]

Nothing prevents you from shooting at a target without entering enemy airspace

[Tamer]

Quote: CommanderDIVA

Even if there are Turkish F-16s in the skies of Azerbaijan, the Armenians received SU-30 under the contract, let them localize this problem

On the ground of Russia in tank biathlon there are many people, and in the sky - Aviadarts))
Are you proposing to those who disagree and who are dissatisfied with this fact to bang missiles at Alabino from outside the Russian state border? After all, nothing interferes, right? and then:

[Cyril G ...]

Didn't the Armenians save an hour on the purchase of the URVV? They definitely saved on air defense modernization. Although the Orbiter, as experience shows, even the old Wasp can be shot down

[Mountain shooter]

It turns out like this. You can not believe ANYONE and in anything. They edit and combine videos, drone videos, satellite imagery ... With the best intentions. To prove the non-existent, to deceive the ENEMY, to form public opinion ... Computer graphics are still distinguishable, but every year it becomes more difficult. And "by eye" no longer.

[RUS96]

In fairness, are the pictures fresh? After all, the Turks did not deploy the F-16 long before the Kipisha to the exercises

[thinker]

Christian Tribert posted on Twitter a satellite image from 3 October

https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/world/20201008/24812968/Na-territorii-aeroporta-v-Gyandzhe-razmescheny-istrebiteli-F-16---zhurnalist-NYT.html

[RUS96]

Quote: thinker

from October 3

To remove and publish it you know not the same thing

[smart fellow]

Have you checked it yourself? There is a trial version for 14 days https://www.planet.com/trial/

[Linxs]

And there is. But nobody cares ..

[Senka naughty]

Again minke whales with their "irrefutable photographs" (understand where and when they were filmed), with the consent of Azerbaijan, troops of any country, including Indian war elephants, can be deployed on its territory. Until there is evidence of captured or killed Turks, all these journalistic dances with tambourines are just nonsense, which does not deserve attention.

[Livonetc]

Is there something incredible in this information?
Everything is logical.
Turkey can strengthen the capabilities of the Azerbaijani Air Force, hypothetically to counter the Armenian SU30SM.

[set of sets]

I don’t know how anyone, but for me the Armenians are no better than the Azerbaijanis.
Once I talked with one of the Armenians on the topic of politics. He said that Russia is an aggressor in Ukraine and Georgia. And in general, from his conversation, it was possible to understand what awaits when we will be destroyed.
Of course, the opinion of one person is nonsense, but if you remember the posters "Russian invaders", then in general the picture of relations is completely unpleasant.

[Plastmaster]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It turns out like this. You can not believe ANYONE and in anything. They edit and combine videos, drone videos, satellite imagery ... With the best intentions. To prove the non-existent, to deceive the ENEMY, to form public opinion ... Computer graphics are still distinguishable, but every year it becomes more difficult. And "by eye" no longer.

And given the fact that our media began to drown for the Armenians, then from experience, they will finish drowning for Aliyev.

[cniza]

This is the first irrefutable proof that at least some of these aircraft were in the country after fighting broke out between it and its neighbor Armenia over the long-contested Nagorno-Karabakh region.

Interesting things, is the USA playing its own game?

[rotmistr60]

Bakinec (Faq Sh)
Aliyev leader.

Leader, no one argues. But for some reason, he is more and more acting on Erdogan's command. The harsh and bellicose statements from the Turkish side are immediately followed by equally bellicose and irreconcilable statements from Aliyev. Aliyev, having got involved in the offensive (called for some reason a counter-offensive) on Karabakh, simply cannot lose this war. Otherwise, you can lose the presidency, too. their people will not understand the "leader" and will carry them out of the palace in their arms. So you have to puff yourself up, bearing also not small losses.

[Bakinec]

Of course, there is political support for Turkey, and Aliyev himself does not deny this. But think for yourself, if you start a liberation war, especially against Armenia, whose diaspora has a huge influence in the west (USA, France), you need to have an ally that will keep Macron away, etc. Why Turkey, but simply - Turks, Azerbaijanis are almost the same , the same language. It's like Russians and Belarusians.
And all the people support Aliyev. Because everyone wants a solution to this problem. And the action of the Armenian politicians who over the last year tried in every possible way to offend the Azerbaijani people, they showed off, they say, not only will we return Karabakh, but we will also seize the land, they say, we will move the Syrian Armenians here, etc., increased the anger of the people and therefore everyone supports Aliyev in this war.
As for the loss, Putin's last interview (where he said that the war is not on the territory of Armenia) also showed that all the actions were coordinated between Russia, Azerbaijan and Turkey and are going according to plan.

[iouris]

What "war of liberation"? Everything is exactly the opposite.
"Political support for Turkey" is far from disinterested. One country - two people (and not vice versa). Azerbaijan has entered a slippery slope and may very soon lose its independence.

[And why do you need]

It was high time to close the rest on Turetchen, there is Crimea, there is Krasnodar Territory. Such a ban would refresh Erdogan's head. And calmed the ardor

[Vladimir B.]

Quote: Why do you need

would refresh Erdogan's head. And calmed the ardor

Will not help. Erdogan has a mania for creating a new empire. Only defeat in the conflicts that he unleashed will help to cool his ardor.

[no better place for]

Also news to me. No one hid that they remained there after the F16 exercises. They talked about not participating in the war

[MKPU-115]

Quote: neden

They talked about not participating in the war

Well, yes, F-16, l / s and OBATO funds were left only as museum pieces.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Tamer

Are you proposing to those who disagree and who are dissatisfied with this fact to bang rockets at Alabino from outside the Russian state border? After all, nothing interferes, right?

It interferes. The Strategic Missile Forces of Russia, after them there will be - silence.

[Kushka]

Quote: Bakinec

Putin's last interview (where he said that the war is not on the territory of Armenia) also showed that all actions are agreed between Russia, Azerbaijan and Turkey and are going according to plan.

A great politician is one who can explain to voters what will happen in a week,
in a month, in a year and when it doesn't happen, why didn't it happen.
08.08.08 military operations on whose territory took place?

[SouzniK]

Yes, there is not only F-16, there are a stream of weapons and advisers .. And the main thing is someone who supplies target designation for UAVs, etc. The United States sleeps and sees, as it were, a stronger conflict, and the main goal is to pit Russia against Turkey.

[Ryaruav]

this war is being spun by amers against Russia

[Radical]

Quote: Tatiana

The war between Armenia and Azerbaijan is unfolding mainly in the interests of Aliyev himself because of the pressure on him from the internal nationalist opposition, which suddenly also became unhappy with the fact that the Aliyevs have ruled the country for too long in a nationalist sense to no avail.
Moreover, the heating up of this nationalist opposition comes precisely from Turkey and not only as a supposedly "brotherly" people - the Turks and the Azerbaijanis - but also from the incitement of Islamism in Azerbaijan.
On this occasion, as early as September 30, 2020, political scientist Sergei Mikheev spoke very correctly about RED LINES in the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, expanding our somewhat trivially limited general view of this problem of war and peace in Nagorno-Karabakh. And it looks like he was right about Aliyev.

No wonder Aliyev said about pigs ... Armenia does not need Russia! All our conversations go down the drain! September 30, 2020 Sergey Mikheev

This gray-bearded "vyunosh" in the case of a possibly shot down Armenian attack aircraft "forgot" to name another CSTO leader country, which does not report anything on this issue, thereby encouraging either lies or Turkey's actions. There is also a third option - reconnaissance means and control of the situation in the combat area are absent, or they do not allow obtaining operational and reliable information.

[Otshelnik]

Look, how stupid they are, they don't know that f16 can see from a satellite, they didn't even cover it with anything)) I wonder what clever guys the info is for?))

[Isim soyad]

Fake, and if not, then no one thought that we also have M-346. Who can prove that this is not an M-346, but an F-16?