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Poland "fined" Gazprom for SP-2 billions of dollars

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Provocations against the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline continue. This time, the Polish Antimonopoly Service UOKiK "fined" Gazprom $ 7,6 billion.


The Polish Competition and Consumer Protection Authority decided that the actions of the Russian natural monopoly and the companies cooperating with it violated the freedom of competition and antitrust laws of Poland.

In addition to Gazprom, 61 more companies participating in the construction of the Nord Stream 5 gas pipeline will have to pay a fine totaling $ 2 million. Interestingly, these are no longer Russian companies, but European ones - Uniper and Wintershall from Germany, OMV from Austria, Engie from France, as well as Dutch-British Shell. They will have to pay 10% of the annual turnover.

The formal reason for imposing a fine was the lack of consent of the Polish regulator for the construction of the gas pipeline. The companies did not apply to UOKiK for appropriate permission. Now the regulator has ordered the termination of all contracts that were concluded in order to finance the SP-2.

Tomasz Khrustny, head of the Competition and Consumer Protection Department, believes that his subordinates conducted a very thorough investigation and collected all the evidence proving that the companies involved in the construction were deliberately violating the law. The Polish official told the media about this.

Naturally, companies facing fines may try to appeal their appointment in court. But does that make sense? It is clear that the Polish authorities are acting against Nord Stream 2 not in their own interests, but at the suggestion and in the interests of the United States. Therefore, the court decisions are unlikely to have any fundamentally different content: at best, in order to demonstrate the "independence" of the judicial system, the Polish courts will slightly reduce the amount of fines.

In fact, the fines imposed on the SP-2 builders for violating antitrust laws indicate the desire of the United States through its satellites to prevent the gas pipeline from starting by any means. If it doesn't work through ecologists, let's try through anti-monopoly officials: the State Department thinks something like this, apparently.

Recall that the construction of a gas pipeline from Russia to Germany is being carried out by Nord Stream 2, the only shareholder of which is the Russian corporation Gazprom. Back in 2016, the Polish authorities did not allow Gazprom and 5 European companies Royal Dutch Shell, OMV, Engie, Uniper and Wintershall to create a joint venture to build a gas pipeline. After that, five European companies became Nord Stream 2 creditors. Now the Polish authorities decided that by doing so they violated antitrust laws and demanded that they stop funding the project.

It is also worth noting that in August 2020, the Polish regulator already fined Gazprom 57 million euros for refusing to provide information requested on the construction of the gas pipeline. A similar fine was then imposed on the French company Engie, which also did not cooperate with the Polish authorities. In this regard, it can be assumed that today's fine is not the last obstacle for Poland to Nord Stream 2.

Now the Gazprom corporation intends to appeal against the fine imposed by the Polish side. Moreover, the Russian corporation claims that the amount of the fine indicates an attempt by Warsaw to prevent the construction of the gas pipeline in any way.

Moreover, the legal system of Poland itself cannot really explain when its powers expanded to such extent that international business projects began to fall under them, including those involving companies from those EU countries, on which soft loans have long been "sitting" Poland itself.
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 7 October 2020 13: 25 New
    11
    Yes, there are 7,6 penalties for 8 what's the difference?
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 7 October 2020 13: 29 New
      +4
      Our Old Man owes Russia, so let the Poles try to take from him under a debt transfer agreement laughing

      1. cniza
        cniza 7 October 2020 13: 40 New
        +8
        Quote: Thrall
        Our Old Man owes Russia, so let the Poles try to take from him under a debt transfer agreement laughing


        Why should it be, it's time for them to go to the musals, so that they wouldn't be borzels ...
        1. Temples
          Temples 7 October 2020 13: 41 New
          27
          And that all can be fined by Gazprom?
          Is this a cash cow?
          Then the residents of Russia also need to impose a fine on this cow, while she still has something to take.
          Otherwise, it’s not exactly an hour.

          And to send the Poles so much so that others would not be familiar with Gazprom can not? request
          1. cniza
            cniza 7 October 2020 13: 43 New
            +9
            No, the United States came up with it and will wind our nerves, they cannot do otherwise ...
            1. Dodikson
              Dodikson 7 October 2020 14: 03 New
              23
              so let our anti-monopoly officers fine Polish companies.
              Well, amerskie also shtrafanut.
              especially those who have an interest in Russia.
              and even if there will be none, then cling to the fact that Rayteon supplies weapons to militants in Libya.
              and mattress slates for destroying the surrounding Friday.
              1. cniza
                cniza 7 October 2020 14: 05 New
                -21 qualifying.
                We do not engage in unlimited, we act according to the law, and they want us to get involved in it ...
                1. Dodikson
                  Dodikson 7 October 2020 14: 07 New
                  +9
                  it is possible according to the law.
                  there would be a person, but there is an article.
                  and they want to involve them because they want American companies not to cooperate with Russia.
                  therefore it is necessary to beat pointwise. so that ordinary offices do not worry about what will affect them, but there is a reason for the district.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 7 October 2020 14: 11 New
                    -4
                    They will surely find something for which they will be punished according to the law, even if the Poles do not rely on the United States, they will receive their full ...
                    1. DenZ
                      DenZ 7 October 2020 15: 11 New
                      +6
                      Quote: cniza
                      They will surely find something for which they will be punished according to the law, even if the Poles do not rely on the United States, they will receive their full ...

                      I agree, for example, to impose a fine on Poland for the fact that by the mere fact of applying its legislation to an international project (you have to guess before that) it has prevented (or hinders) the implementation of this project. in general, Poland acts as if it is the most important in Europe, and if someone hasn't asked her something, then that's it. Oh, they will scrape on their head ... Scrape.
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 7 October 2020 15: 17 New
                        +1
                        Yes, it is clear that the United States is behind all this, and Poland will receive ...
                      2. Shurik70
                        Shurik70 7 October 2020 23: 15 New
                        +1
                        Interestingly, the Polish leadership does not violate the antimonopoly laws of Poland, buying gas almost only from Gazprom?
                        And can Gazprom sue the Polish leadership for damages (plus moral compensation)?
                      3. cniza
                        cniza 8 October 2020 08: 46 New
                        +1
                        You will confuse them so and they will completely fall off the rails. lol
            2. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 7 October 2020 14: 30 New
              +3
              to act according to the law with those who act out of bounds? so when did it work?
              1. cniza
                cniza 7 October 2020 14: 35 New
                -4
                It has always worked and always works, bear with us, it’s not overnight, we are being provoked on purpose, but we must calmly and methodically do our job.
                1. Revival
                  Revival 7 October 2020 14: 42 New
                  -1
                  Proud, legitimate, beggars ...
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 7 October 2020 14: 44 New
                    +1
                    Are you talking about yourself? We are kind, fair and do not want to be taught ...
                  2. Revival
                    Revival 7 October 2020 15: 33 New
                    +4
                    This is me about your advice and their consequences.
                    We are supposedly ripped off as they want and outrageously, amvy wait, wait, be patient ...
                    Do we play Leopold's cat chtoli?
                    Somehow tired of wait, be patient, wipe yourself ...
                    How many years do you need by law to answer more 20, 30, 150 .....?
                  3. cniza
                    cniza 7 October 2020 15: 49 New
                    -3
                    Quote: Revival

                    We are supposedly ripped off as they want and outrageously, amvy wait, wait, be patient ...


                    Well, this is still their Wishlist, now we have our own legislative base ... but we don't have to wait and endure, we need to work systematically ...
                  4. cniza
                    cniza 7 October 2020 15: 51 New
                    -4
                    Quote: Revival

                    How many years do you need by law to answer more 20, 30, 150 .....?


                    And this is how the officials from Gazprom will work, I think they will now insert a primitive incentive, move ...
                  5. Revival
                    Revival 7 October 2020 16: 57 New
                    +7
                    And I think they will all go to waste as usual and pay, something that is not visible reverse precedents
                  6. cniza
                    cniza 7 October 2020 17: 03 New
                    -3
                    We'll wait and see, they are fat, you can't argue here ...
        2. Karabin
          Karabin 7 October 2020 18: 04 New
          +8
          Quote: cniza
          but you need to calmly and methodically do your job.

          Something after the efforts of calm methodical workers Gazprom pays and pays everything.
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt 7 October 2020 14: 49 New
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      we act according to the law

      The fact of the matter is that all "international laws" are written by the West. So is the judicial system. And "international courts", ibid. And if the ruling of the "international court" does not correspond to the same "international laws", then so much the worse for the laws themselves. So, everything is sewn covered.
      1. cniza
        cniza 7 October 2020 14: 57 New
        -4
        It seems that we corrected it in the constitution, no? And there are also contracts where a lot is prescribed, including court decisions where and how ...
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 7 October 2020 15: 07 New
          +8
          Quote: cniza
          It seems that we corrected it in the constitution, no?

          The Russian constitution is a piece for internal use. True, it provides a very good option, to drive a big bolt into the so-called "international law". In general, there is only one way out, you need to act only from a position of strength. For example, put the same Poland in an inclined position, so that others would not be familiar. I think that Russia will have some leverage. And this game of "democracy" and "legality" will not lead to any good. All Poles, with the rest of the Balts and the Ukraine, lost at the end of the coast. All the same, Russia will never be "good" for them. So, the conclusion suggests itself, it is high time for some and on the tinsel.
          1. cniza
            cniza 7 October 2020 15: 19 New
            -3
            Yes, for domestic purposes, but if international laws contradict ours, we will be guided by ours and this is what we need.
          2. Malyuta
            Malyuta 7 October 2020 19: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: cniza
            we will be guided by ours and this is what we need.

            And who is this "you"?
          3. cniza
            cniza 7 October 2020 21: 25 New
            -1
            One hundred percent not you, you cry and crawl to the cemetery.
          4. Malyuta
            Malyuta 7 October 2020 21: 50 New
            0
            Quote: cniza
            One hundred percent not you, you cry and crawl to the cemetery.

            I will try hard so that you, together with the head of the club, overtake me and come to the finish line first good drinks
          5. cniza
            cniza 7 October 2020 22: 27 New
            0
            I was never going there, you are all crying and dying ...
          6. Malyuta
            Malyuta 7 October 2020 22: 33 New
            +2
            Quote: cniza
            I was never going there, you are all crying and dying ...

            Why, after all, you will have a rupture of all myacardo-clips when you find out the whole truth about your idol laughing
            As I say, earlier we tried to reason with you and say that a twisted reality was imposed on you, in which you believed, but you did not listen.
            and now we laugh and joke at you, what the hell is crying here wassat
          7. cniza
            cniza 8 October 2020 08: 40 New
            0
            I do not have any idols, I live my mind and so that I can earn, which I wish you, you may like ...
          8. Malyuta
            Malyuta 8 October 2020 08: 52 New
            +1
            Quote: cniza
            I do not have any idols, I live my mind and so that I can earn, which I wish you, you may like ...

            You can, of course, pack your ass in warmth, but what about those who are 20 million beggars?
            You didn't say anything about your work .. I'm ashamed to say?
  2. cniza
    cniza 7 October 2020 22: 28 New
    -1
    Certainly not you, your path is to moan and ask to be fed ...
  3. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 7 October 2020 16: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: orionvitt
    True, it provides a very good option, to drive a big bolt into the so-called "international law".

    and where did you consider this bolt in the amendments? Does it say that decisions of, say, international arbitration are not binding?

    Quote: orionvitt
    So, the conclusion suggests itself, it is high time for some and on the tinsel.

    who begs for something? Kitchen strategists? So yes, virtually all the adversaries must crackle.
  4. Malyuta
    Malyuta 7 October 2020 19: 38 New
    -1
    Quote: orionvitt
    For example, put the same Poland in an inclined position, so that others would not be familiar. I think that Russia will have some leverage.

    Tell us about leverage.
  5. cniza
    cniza 7 October 2020 21: 28 New
    0
    Yours will definitely not help, they look more like crutches ...
  6. Malyuta
    Malyuta 7 October 2020 22: 37 New
    0
    Quote: cniza
    Yours will definitely not help, they look more like crutches ...

    I am very sorry, but you really become like little embittered dwarfs, sprinkling with rotten, fetid scrapings in all the space around you and living in the mystical kingdom of victories and sraket invented for you.
    PySy. I want to immediately notice to fellow citizens with an unstable psyche that cons are not an obstacle to truth good yes drinks
  7. cniza
    cniza 8 October 2020 08: 42 New
    +1
    In general, I rarely put minuses, and you all try to reason with everyone, live with your mind, do as your conscience tells you and people will reach out to you ...
  • Revival
    Revival 7 October 2020 17: 01 New
    -1
    It seems like a lot of things have been corrected, only for the treatment of children, everything is collected on TV and sms, but how they fought, they say, we will accept it and this shameful phenomenon will disappear, since children will become our priority according to the constitution ...
    Yeah
  • Karabin
    Karabin 7 October 2020 18: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: cniza
    It seems that we corrected it in the constitution, no?

    In addition to zeroing Putin, you didn't fix a damn thing there.
  • Revival
    Revival 7 October 2020 16: 59 New
    0
    Yes, we are acting according to the law ...
    We pay and pay whatever is required.
    We will soon find out the price of the amendments
  • da Vinci
    da Vinci 7 October 2020 14: 20 New
    +7
    To do this, it is necessary that the Miller minions have something more in their heads than the current dollar rate. In a bummer flipping through the Internet: how much and for what amount Gazprom lost in the courts. But what difference does it make - not from Miller's pocket.
  • Kronos
    Kronos 7 October 2020 14: 20 New
    +3
    Americans and Europeans can demand money from Russia, but Russia cannot.
    1. Revival
      Revival 7 October 2020 17: 04 New
      -1
      Absolutely.
      Here they offer amerskih shale workers to fine.
      Yes, it will still be that scream.
      What can we do to them, what?
      How will we collect a fine, like with a telegram, 2 kilos of shame from helplessness?
  • Revival
    Revival 7 October 2020 16: 56 New
    0
    And what can we do about the amersky shale trees !?
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 7 October 2020 15: 36 New
    12
    Quote: cniza
    No, the United States came up with it and will wind our nerves, they cannot do otherwise ...

    I don’t understand something else: AS a body of some Poland, which (like Poland) does not have ANY relation to SP2, can it ... fine?

    What is her dog business?
    1. cniza
      cniza 7 October 2020 17: 08 New
      +1
      This suggests that they want to piss us off and that we would start waving a club ...
      1. nerd.su
        nerd.su 7 October 2020 23: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: cniza
        This suggests that they want to piss us off and that we would start waving a club ...

        It is high time not to wave, but to strike with a club. Life will get better right away.
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 7 October 2020 21: 52 New
    -1
    Quote: cniza
    No, the United States came up with it and will wind our nerves, they cannot do otherwise ...

    Explain, why do you need the United States to shake your nerves?
    I don't think they even know about your existence.
    1. cniza
      cniza 8 October 2020 08: 52 New
      0
      We prevent them from living, we even interfere with our existence ...
  • Revival
    Revival 7 October 2020 14: 14 New
    +2
    Why should we worry, we are not going to wipe off and pay !?
    The amendments were accepted, that's just the moment of truth ..
    So no big deal
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 7 October 2020 14: 55 New
      +4
      Well, well .. and a year ago ykram 3 lard was paid due to the fact that there were no amendments ??)))
      What are you naive .. moment of truth ..))
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 7 October 2020 15: 13 New
        -1
        Quote: Roman070280
        Well, well .. and a year ago ykram 3 lard was paid due to the fact that there were no amendments ??)))
        What are you naive .. moment of truth ..))

        And what were these amendments 3 years ago? I've just voted for them. belay
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 7 October 2020 15: 35 New
          0
          And what were these amendments 3 years ago?

          And a year ago ykram 3 lard was paid due to the fact that there were no amendments ??)))
          How simple it is ..))

          I've just voted for them. belay

          They voted for the zeroing of Putin's deadlines .. This has nothing to do with these fines .. Otherwise, why did Gazprom begin to file an appeal ..
      2. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 7 October 2020 15: 15 New
        -1
        Alternatively, this Polish bounce is the "compliance check" in relation to amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
        1. cniza
          cniza 7 October 2020 15: 21 New
          -4
          Quote: g1washntwn
          Alternatively, this Polish bounce is the "compliance check" in relation to amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation.


          Very much like that, and at the same time we will fray our nerves.
      3. Revival
        Revival 7 October 2020 15: 42 New
        +1
        If we pay now, then after July 1, there are no more excuses, then those who kicked themselves in the chest for amendments would have to spit in their face, fiercely assured last time that it’s just June and that’s just why we pay, but apologizing on July 1 but not a penny, well, we are waiting with impatience ...
      4. Revival
        Revival 7 October 2020 17: 06 New
        -1
        Now they say from July 1, after the amendments, we will not give up a penny.
        I am really looking forward to this moment, when, despite the amendments, they will pay shamefully as before.
        I want to see if the zapopravochniki will spit in the face and repent, or will roll out 100500 tons of excuses
        1. cniza
          cniza 7 October 2020 17: 10 New
          0
          Do not guess, but be patient and soon we will see everything ...
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 7 October 2020 19: 35 New
            -1
            Quote: cniza
            Do not guess, but be patient and soon we will see everything ...

            Do you advise to be patient to endure?
            1. cniza
              cniza 7 October 2020 21: 24 New
              -1
              I advise you not to whine, but to work ...
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta 7 October 2020 21: 47 New
                -1
                Quote: cniza
                I advise you not to whine, but to work ...

                Work to die right at work in the name of mutin? belay
                Can you describe in more detail what you mean by the word "work"?
              2. cniza
                cniza 7 October 2020 22: 26 New
                +1
                Well, you can not work, you can go for food, but you can also at a demonstration of the "oppressed", choose if you don't want to work ...
              3. Malyuta
                Malyuta 7 October 2020 22: 52 New
                -1
                Quote: cniza
                choose if you don't want to work ...

                I'm embarrassed to ask, what do you work for? Are you reselling Chinese "underpants"? Maybe you have invented a thread? Maybe implemented?
                You did it to the point that in the Gagarin rocket of the 60s, the scraponauts began to glue the holes in the skin with Chinese tape.
                How are you different from the Chahlopithecus? so ordinary skreposkakuasy, only you ride without understanding why and why. hi
              4. cniza
                cniza 8 October 2020 08: 45 New
                0
                I don't understand your non-language well, but I understand that your life is very difficult, try not to blame anyone, let alone call names, and it will become easier for you to live.
  • Piramidon
    Piramidon 7 October 2020 14: 43 New
    0
    Quote: Temples
    And to send the Poles so much so that others would not be familiar with Gazprom can not?

    Gazprom and its would-be lawyers put their tongue in ... and are afraid to vyaknut. They need to stretch this pipe by any means, even at a loss. Therefore, I would not be surprised if the Poles really squeeze something out of them.
  • Hypertension
    Hypertension 7 October 2020 15: 10 New
    -2
    Quote: Temples
    And that all can be fined by Gazprom?
    Is this a cash cow?

    It turns out that so ... Last year, Chechens were written off 9 billion rubles. debts, now Poland can be unfastened. Only not everyone is given to milk Gazprom. The Russians have recently increased gas tariffs by 5%.
  • Bomb
    Bomb 7 October 2020 15: 32 New
    0
    Gazprom has a loss of 277 billion in the first half of the year. There is nothing to pay, but if you raise something for slaves, then there will be.
  • krops777
    krops777 7 October 2020 15: 34 New
    +1
    And to send the Poles so much so that others would not be familiar with Gazprom can not?


    It is not necessary to send, but to put forward a counterclaim for the same amount, or better ten times more, so that it’s not necessary, beat them with the same.
    1. Revival
      Revival 7 October 2020 17: 07 New
      -3
      Right! And on this occasion, to sue in European arbitration and ....
      Pay...
      Our golden plan ..
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 7 October 2020 21: 54 New
      -1
      Quote: krops777
      And to send the Poles so much so that others would not be familiar with Gazprom can not?


      It is not necessary to send, but to put forward a counterclaim for the same amount, or better ten times more, so that it’s not necessary, beat them with the same.

      Gazprom fed the wrong lawyers-maneuvers. They themselves in the West keep their "hard-earned, honestly earned" money. Would you run into your trough?
  • Antidote
    Antidote 7 October 2020 15: 43 New
    -1
    Gazprom will pay, and it is the residents of Russia who will compensate for the fine, not the first time.
  • cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 7 October 2020 19: 54 New
    0
    Maybe the "accidental launch" of Poplar or Yars ... and a "purely accidental" direct hit in Poland ... just "the contact was short-circuited" ... "No country - NO PROBLEMS" yes
    1. Zementbomber
      Zementbomber 8 October 2020 04: 21 New
      -3
      Well, in return - a non-random volley of GSC. And as a result, instead of eRefii - radioactive ash. "No country - NO PROBLEMS!" Is that exactly what you want? bully
  • Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 8 October 2020 16: 24 New
    0
    Quote: Temples
    And that all can be fined by Gazprom?
    Is this a cash cow?
    Then the residents of Russia also need to impose a fine on this cow, while she still has something to take.
    Otherwise, it’s not exactly an hour.

    And to send the Poles so much so that others would not be familiar with Gazprom can not? request

    It is high time for our residents to fine Miller for villages not connected to gas mains.
    For unbearable extortions when connecting the population to Gazprom's networks.
    For cowsheds that are not heated in winter, except for manure.
    For the felled forests used for firewood for ancient stoves.
    For the blackened snow in towns that are heated by coal-fired boilers ...
    And the Poles - the direction to the buoy! wink
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 7 October 2020 14: 00 New
    -3
    Quote: cniza
    it's time for them to go to the musals

    It's high time, oh how long ago
    whatever the borzels ..

    And they will still be. How many times have they been beaten, but they have not learned any lessons
    1. cniza
      cniza 7 October 2020 14: 06 New
      -5
      Apparently this will be the last time and forever ...
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 7 October 2020 14: 13 New
        -4
        Yes, it’s a pity to spend a vigorous bonbu on them.
        You can, after all, a couple of garrisons with ordinary ones, and the rest of them will raise their legs up the hill
        1. cniza
          cniza 7 October 2020 14: 26 New
          -3
          Don't bomb them, especially Ya.O. , there are many ways to strangle them, or rather their politicians ...
          1. Revival
            Revival 7 October 2020 17: 09 New
            0
            Will you arrest their accounts in Russia, or will you take them home in Voronezh?
            Or are you talking about what we are not doing?
            1. cniza
              cniza 7 October 2020 17: 14 New
              0
              And this is all that your understanding is enough for? how does it all look like overseas mockery not? ... for a start, you can grab their business, I mean the business of their politicians, which they do with Russia ...
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta 7 October 2020 19: 34 New
                -2
                Quote: cniza
                ... for a start, you can grab their business, I mean the business of their politicians, which they do with Russia ...

                And who will take it? we can iminichok?
                1. cniza
                  cniza 7 October 2020 21: 24 New
                  0
                  I am sure that it is definitely not you, you can only moan and groan - how bad everything is ...
                2. Malyuta
                  Malyuta 7 October 2020 22: 02 New
                  -2
                  Quote: cniza
                  is true that you are definitely not you, you can only moan and groan - how bad everything is ...

                  I remembered, "This groan we call a song ..."
                  Only we do not fall into despondency, we rejoice for you, how beautifully your braces burst from the strain laughing
                3. cniza
                  cniza 7 October 2020 22: 31 New
                  +2
                  I have a song, this is my life, you understand MY, and I will not give it to anyone, but to you ... I am sorry for you that you live in anger and do not understand that even from a meager one you can do good and great good ...
                4. Malyuta
                  Malyuta 8 October 2020 07: 08 New
                  -2
                  Quote: cniza
                  I have a song, this is my life, you understand MY, and I will not give it to anyone, but to you ... I am sorry for you that you live in anger and do not understand that even from a meager one you can do good and great good ..

                  I am very sorry, but your right to live the way you want, just do not impose your concept of life on other people.
                  You are dragging us into hopeless poverty, obscurantism and middle ages.
                  But this one here is your gundezh about "big good from small", "turn the other cheek", "start with yourself", "better a tit in your hands .." leave the priests and your children, if you want to make slaves of them.
                  Zadolbala already your militant poverty, have already seen your like-minded people in real life in worn out boots a la goodbye youth. Circus, damn it. laughing
                5. cniza
                  cniza 8 October 2020 08: 49 New
                  +1
                  Where do I impose? it is you trying to "reason" with me, thank you, I will myself, I will live with my mind and try not to interfere with anyone, not to demand and not to panic.
  • Vlad.by
    Vlad.by 7 October 2020 17: 53 New
    +1
    Why should it be, it's time for them to go to the musals, so that they wouldn't be borzels ...


    It seems to me that antitrust rules are violated in Poland. Why does Poland alone get a loot for transit? There is a monopoly! Shouldn't Poland roll in a 100 billion fine for all past and future transit payments?
    Why didn't they offer 50% of the pipe to alternatives? Why didn't they build one more pipe at their own expense on their territory and donate it to “everyone who has the opportunity to offer” gas?
    An obvious corruption component - restrictions introduced with the use of official position! And to each personally solder a billion. Moreover, the Savelovsky court of Moscow. And let them try to appeal!
    And we can take the payment by Suwalki and the corridor to Kaliningrad.
    And Gazprom will pay its fine. May be. Someday, but only after the transfer of territories.
    1. cniza
      cniza 7 October 2020 18: 02 New
      0
      You can grab them, you just need to study, they start - continue to become impudent ...
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 7 October 2020 19: 42 New
    -1
    Well, what kind of managerial talent is needed to turn a profitable company into a loss-making one?
    And the most important thing is that the head of the hockey player is satisfied with the work of these hucksters, he says, they say, there are no other such in the world and therefore the salary of 5 Lyams is fully justified.
    Congratulations to the bracers on the new breakthrough! uryayayayayayaya
    1. cniza
      cniza 7 October 2020 21: 30 New
      0
      Have you created a profitable company? or just criticize ...
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 7 October 2020 21: 45 New
        -1
        Quote: cniza
        Have you created a profitable company? or just criticize

        And what did Putin and Miller create Gazprom? As far as I remember, this was created by nature for the people, and these characters, along with the vrotenberg, stole everything fellow
        1. cniza
          cniza 7 October 2020 22: 24 New
          +2
          You don’t make yourself laugh and you don’t need to translate the arrows, what good have you done for the country?
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  • hrych
    hrych 7 October 2020 13: 50 New
    +7
    Quote: Thrall
    Our Old Man owes Russia

    Have you seen his face? Everyone owes it to him wassat The article runs a hit on the United States, but this is unfair, the Poles understand that the SP-2 will hit the Yamal gas pipeline. These are SP-1 and the Southern Corridor opposite Ukrotranzit. A SP-2 against Lyakhotransit wassat Therefore, Poland and without the US is interesting. The fine ... Well, there was such a Ugandan dictator who declared war on the United States, only to declare himself the winner the next day. His name was Dada Ume Idi Amin.
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 7 October 2020 14: 54 New
    -4
    Yes, there are 7,6 penalties for 8 what's the difference?

    Well, yes .. no difference .. our pensioners will pay everything ..))
  • iouris
    iouris 7 October 2020 20: 54 New
    -1
    Gas prices will rise, followed by heating and hot water. That's all.
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 8 October 2020 06: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      Gas prices will rise, followed by heating and hot water. That's all.

      The sun will rise and the day will come after it. This is inevitable, such is the selyavi any the economy as a whole.
      But for the Polish, this growth will definitely run ahead of the locomotive. They, like horses, strive for a complete rejection of everything "undemocratic" ... and a real democratic gas tends to rise sharply in price when it leaves democratic LNG terminals to the buyer.
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 7 October 2020 21: 53 New
    -1
    Quote: Pessimist22
    Yes, there are 7,6 penalties for 8 what's the difference?

    Probably no one for you, you are an international tourist, but they will add housing and communal services to us sinners!
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 8 October 2020 06: 46 New
      +1
      What reality do you live in? In the one where you have ALL prices exclusively and annually reduced?
      I will surprise you, but there is such an indicator as the inflation index. Google, digest ... and stop picking hallucinogenic mushrooms in the fall.
  • stalki
    stalki 7 October 2020 13: 26 New
    0
    Well, no words. Complete and unconditional Polish insanity. laughing laughing laughing they climb out of their skin, just to please the owner, there is no logic, but for some reason they puffed loudly.
    1. cniza
      cniza 7 October 2020 13: 39 New
      0
      And why do they need logic, they continue to crap, now the United States, based on the decisions of the Polish courts, will begin to seize our property and block our money and we will fight back ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 7 October 2020 13: 27 New
    +6
    The issue of sovereignty of decisions taken by states and companies registered in those states ...
    It will be interesting to see it all !!!
    1. cniza
      cniza 7 October 2020 13: 37 New
      +3
      Here you no longer need to look, but clamp your head between your knees, take off your trousers and flog on the sly Polish ass ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 October 2020 13: 44 New
        +7
        But what will that cast iron do?
        They were "fought" so many times for their excessive nonsense and greed, it is impossible to count them.
        1. cniza
          cniza 7 October 2020 13: 49 New
          +1
          Nothing and cast iron can be melted if you kiss properly ...
      2. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 7 October 2020 13: 51 New
        -2
        Quote: cniza
        Here you no longer need to look, but clamp your head between your knees, take off your trousers and flog on the sly Polish ass ...
        at the same time ----- boss fool on the floor diligently instruct.
        1. cniza
          cniza 7 October 2020 13: 54 New
          -1
          But for some reason they get better through the ass, but I think so ...
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 7 October 2020 13: 45 New
      +2
      .....when her powers expanded to such extent ...
      , this is exactly what, as you Victor, say
      Quote: rocket757
      The issue of sovereignty of decisions made by states and companies registered in those states ....... !!!
      Something Russia does not impose fines? request It's a pity....
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 October 2020 13: 48 New
        +2
        It imposes, it happens ... only we like to forgive them, who can afford it, of course.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 7 October 2020 13: 30 New
    +1
    And they will pay in full
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 7 October 2020 19: 32 New
      -2
      Quote: 7,62x54
      And they will pay in full

      Why do they feel sorry for something, maybe they won't pay from their own people.
  • prodi
    prodi 7 October 2020 13: 31 New
    16
    the need to abolish the statehood of Poland is becoming not only urgent, but also blatant
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  • Maalkavianin
    Maalkavianin 7 October 2020 13: 34 New
    +6
    It will be fun if Gazprom pays.
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 7 October 2020 13: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: Malkavianin
      It will be fun if Gazprom pays.

      What joy if this project is outside the jurisdiction of the Polish authorities? Let me remind you that Poland and the Baltic dwarfs have already demanded different payments from us, operating with multibillion-dollar claims, and where are they? Let them rage, they are unlikely to bend Gazprom, because too many Western participants have invested in this project, and they do not want to lose dividends. By the way, SP-1 has already reached its full capacity on the eve of winter, and Ukrainian transit has also reached its maximum - this is the answer who needs our gas the most.
      1. Maalkavianin
        Maalkavianin 7 October 2020 14: 01 New
        +2
        Now there is a devil in the world. Therefore, I am not surprised at anything.
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 7 October 2020 14: 10 New
        +3
        Quote: ccsr
        Let me remind you that Poland and the Baltic dwarfs have already demanded different payments from us, operating with multibillion-dollar claims, and where are they?

        Well, I will also remind you how, at the request of the foolish firm "Noga", our fighter sailing ships were arrested.
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 7 October 2020 19: 29 New
          +4
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Well, I will also remind you how, at the request of the foolish firm "Noga", our fighter sailing ships were arrested.

          There was a precedent with a temporary arrest, but it all ended sadly for the owners of the Noga company, the company went bankrupt, and its owners were arrested, and their property was confiscated. So they did not arrest anything from us, but went bankrupt in litigation.
          Quote: And
          Well, the last time Gazprom paid Polish PGNiG almost $ 1,5 billion was this summer.

          This was the decision of the arbitration court outside the Polish jurisdiction - so in this case, although the judges played against us, we ourselves agreed to the trial, because that was how the contract was drawn up with the Polish side. Now their claim is carried out outside the contractual obligations.
          Quote: And
          ... So the mechanism has already been worked out with the Ukrainian side: incomprehensible and even absurd lawsuits in court, which Gazprom naturally loses, and then fines for violating something there.

          You are wrong - in those cases there were Gazprom Agreements, and therefore we could have been fined even on false demands, and some decisions are still being challenged. Now the Poles have only Wishlist, and nothing more, and they will not go through arbitration - at least there is no subject of our obligations to the Poles regarding the construction of the SP-2.
      3. And
        And 7 October 2020 14: 19 New
        +4
        Well, the last time Gazprom paid Polish PGNiG almost $ 1,5 billion was this summer. Somewhere in August-September, the Polish anti-monopoly authorities have already imposed a fine on Gazprom of about $ 60 million (I do not know exactly whether they paid or not). So the mechanism has already been worked out with the Ukrainian side: incomprehensible and even absurd lawsuits, which Gazprom naturally loses, and then fines for violating something. Now here is Poland. Which country will be next?
    2. Avior
      Avior 7 October 2020 14: 00 New
      +3
      Will not be able to challenge in court - will pay
      Otherwise there will be problems in the EU
      In fact, recently 1,5 billion have already been paid
      1. Maalkavianin
        Maalkavianin 7 October 2020 14: 03 New
        +7
        In the new constitution there was something about the priority of our legislation over any other. So let's see how it works if something happens.
        1. Antidote
          Antidote 7 October 2020 15: 36 New
          -2
          The court, in general, does not care what is written in the local law. Doing business in international relations - obey the general laws. They arrest assets for 7.6 billion rubles, and they will give Miller a premium, you must understand.
          Maybe it doesn't work.
          1. g1washntwn
            g1washntwn 8 October 2020 06: 50 New
            +1
            Quote: Antidote
            Doing business in international relations - obey the general laws.

            And when local Polish laws suddenly became international?
        2. Avior
          Avior 7 October 2020 22: 26 New
          0
          They wrote very dimly, the article of the constitution on the priority of international treaties was not removed and did not touch at all.
          By the way, 1.5 billion Poles were paid after the amendments.
          Let's see, of course.
          1. Revival
            Revival 8 October 2020 00: 34 New
            0
            Well then, in the comments, they feebly put forward an excuse, they say the decision on payment was before the amendments, but now we won't give a penny for apostle !!!
            Well, let's see, let's see ...
          2. g1washntwn
            g1washntwn 8 October 2020 06: 52 New
            +1
            Quote: Avior
            By the way, 1.5 billion Poles were paid after the amendments

            This is on the claims considered before the amendments. For current Wishlist you need to wait and watch.
        3. Artyom Volgin
          Artyom Volgin 8 October 2020 02: 04 New
          11
          Quote: Malkavianin
          There was something in the new constitution about the priority of our legislation over any other

          Art. 15 clause 4 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation: The generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system. If an international treaty of the Russian Federation establishes rules other than those provided for by law, then the rules of the international treaty shall apply. "
          Well, something like this ...
          1. g1washntwn
            g1washntwn 8 October 2020 06: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Artem Volgin
            then the rules of the international treaty apply

            The Polish regulator is a local jurisdiction, not an international one. Contractual relations on the SP-2 are not with Poland. So - the forest is there, the guide Susanin is already waiting.
            1. Avior
              Avior 8 October 2020 09: 11 New
              +2
              The point is that amendments 15 to Article XNUMX on the priority of international treaties over domestic laws did not in fact change, it remained as it was.
              1. g1washntwn
                g1washntwn 8 October 2020 09: 43 New
                +1
                Quote: Avior
                The point is that amendments to Article 15 on the priority of an international treaty over domestic laws

                And we have some kind of SP-2 with Poland international treaty?
                Legally, it buys gas from SP-1 already German, with SP-2 nothing will change.
                What about the white-sided magpie ... Did you chop wood? carried water? stoked the stove? ... but didn't give it... So they are sprinkling with bile.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 8 October 2020 09: 45 New
                  +1
                  In general, this is not about gas, but about the priorities of legislation.
                  Article 15 of the Constitution remained, it was not changed
                  1. g1washntwn
                    g1washntwn 8 October 2020 09: 52 New
                    0
                    Quote: Avior
                    In general, this is not about gas, but about the priorities of legislation.

                    AND? Someone believed that we would spit on all treaties, the ECHR and the UN put together and voluntarily go into deep defense, fencing off the world with kilometer-long walls? I didn't believe in such stupidity, the speech and the meaning of the sentences were different.
  • cniza
    cniza 7 October 2020 13: 35 New
    +3
    Provocations against the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline continue. This time, the Polish Antimonopoly Service UOKiK "fined" Gazprom $ 7,6 billion.


    What modest guys ... but in general it's time to at least hang up the cuffs ...
  • ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
    ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 7 October 2020 13: 35 New
    -1
    Or maybe we are banging in Poland? Bahnim but then !!!! Insanity is off the charts.
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  • And
    And 7 October 2020 13: 38 New
    19
    According to the established tradition, Gazprom will pay. But I don't understand how a country that has nothing to do with the construction of the SP-2 can impose a fine? So soon, Zimbabwe and Honduras will begin to replenish their budget at the expense of Gazprom's fines.
    1. 72jora72
      72jora72 7 October 2020 13: 43 New
      +8
      So soon, Zimbabwe and Honduras will begin to replenish their budget at the expense of Gazprom's fines.
      Why not........
      1. And
        And 7 October 2020 13: 50 New
        +4
        This is what alarms, maybe Pshek's attempts, which by the way bring them income, there is only, so to speak, a "test of the pen". Now the rest of the "guardians" of ecology and antimonopoly legislation will look at all this - and put the fine of Gazprom on stream, in automatic mode.
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 7 October 2020 13: 50 New
      +3
      with what joy? the Polish court can judge trillions. In fact, they now want to open a Pandora's box with this decision. no one will support him, because tomorrow Poland will run into Germany or France in any other project for which they have not asked for permission. this is legal blackmail. if they agree with this, all countries will begin to make such decisions in their courts. as our lawyer said to this, it's time for me to retrain because I stopped understanding how law works in Europe now.
      1. And
        And 7 October 2020 14: 01 New
        +2
        Well, the Poles already wanted to get a trillion from Germany, but were quickly sent on a walking solo erotic journey. So I think the cash cow for patching holes in the budgets of small but proud countries, including those that were formerly part of the USSR, has been identified - this is Gazprom.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 7 October 2020 14: 22 New
          +2
          here the point is different. it is clear that Gazprom will not accept this decision. it is clear that Poland wants to drag them into legal showdowns all who participate. here another curious thing is building a consortium. in which Gazprom's share is half. and what is more important there is not Gazprom itself on what basis the second half of paying only 50 million by their decision is simply not clear. what attitude to the construction of Poland is not clear. the cost of the entire project is 9.5 yards and how they calculated such amounts, few people understand. this is a new milestone in international relations - judicial blackmail and robbery. where everyone can sue everyone for any amount simply because he so wanted .. creating such a precedent if someone admits a fit of delirium, then everyone will arrive.
          1. And
            And 7 October 2020 14: 29 New
            +3
            They will not condemn everyone, only those who need it. And on the account of the precedent, please, Gazprom paid Ukraine according to the decision of the international court due to the fact that the Ukrainian economy is in a deplorable state and it was necessary to somehow help.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 7 October 2020 14: 34 New
              +1
              there were two courts and Ukraine lost one and also paid. such economic relations are themselves very confusing and complex. The Russian Federation fulfilled Merkel's promise and, in fact, to keep transit through Ukraine at a minimum level for its political reputation. Well, as usual, in response, we were given a big top with Navalny. which once again proved that no agreements are being respected anymore.
              1. And
                And 7 October 2020 14: 46 New
                +3
                The very fact that the courts were not afraid to create a similar precedent (for the payment of Gazprom) suggests that it is unlikely to ever be applied to other subjects - they are not suicides. But the fact that the agreements and promises of our "partners" are not worth the dirt under the nails is a fait accompli. But at the same time, there is some kind of masochism on our part - we are constantly dipped into a bucket in the barn, and we are all "partners, treaties, international law" and other fairy tales that no one believes in anymore.
                1. Revival
                  Revival 8 October 2020 00: 37 New
                  0
                  And what else to blame the "weak", only that he is "good" ...
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  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 October 2020 13: 39 New
    -3
    delirium and idiocy
    with the same success, some thread of the lower Mambesia can also impose fines for not asking her permission
    it is not necessary to express concerns and not to dispute, but to loudly declare in response to the arrests of the property, the arrests of the property of Polish companies and firms will follow up to international waters
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 7 October 2020 13: 39 New
    10
    I'm being crazy about it, what the hell are the fines? We have that Miller recruited rams into the legal department, so let him pay from his own pocket and the pockets of his hopmenagers, since they are so stupid .. As much as possible, bastard, yes, start over. And then, because of these idiots, they collect money on TV for the treatment of children.
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 October 2020 13: 39 New
    0
    delirium and idiocy
    with the same success, some thread of the lower Mambesia can also impose fines for not asking her permission
    it is not necessary to express concerns and not to dispute, but to loudly declare in response to the arrests of the property, the arrests of the property of Polish companies and firms will follow up to international waters
    1. Hagen
      Hagen 7 October 2020 13: 49 New
      -6
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      delirium and idiocy

      Yes, not delirium and idiocy, but American banditry. Their shale is on fire, and the economy is in deep recession ahead of the elections. So they want to create a gas deficit in Europe so that it rises in price above the level
      profitability of LNG. As soon as SP-2 is stopped, UkrGTS will immediately start. Europe will start asking for LNG in full growth, and at the same time, their energy will rise in price, and production will sharply increase the cost of production. That's when the United States will remember about competition and flood Europka with its goods. Today, only this can save the Anglo-Saxon world from the crisis of overproduction. The US will gradually kill the European manufacturer in this way.
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  • Bison
    Bison 7 October 2020 13: 40 New
    +5
    Does Zimbabwe want to fine Gazprom? Or do they not need money?
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  • Bison
    Bison 7 October 2020 13: 41 New
    +1
    Does Zimbabwe want to fine Gazprom? Or do they not need money?
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 7 October 2020 13: 42 New
      +5
      I can see not only one of me is buggy satst
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 7 October 2020 14: 35 New
        +3
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        I can see not only one of me is buggy satst

        They got it on again. Yesterday it was normal, but now the devil knows what. Maderators! Return it as it was!
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 October 2020 13: 41 New
    0
    delirium and idiocy
    with the same success, some thread of the lower Mambesia can also impose fines for not asking her permission
    it is not necessary to express concerns and not to dispute, but to loudly declare in response to the seizures of property, seizures of property of Polish companies and firms will follow up to international waters
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 7 October 2020 13: 43 New
    -1
    They will wait until they sell gas on a prepaid basis, although no, they will rather raise the price and pay for TV propagandists inside the country.
  • iouris
    iouris 7 October 2020 13: 44 New
    -11 qualifying.
    Sovereignty confirmed. For three partitions of Poland, answer with a section of "Gazprom"!
    1. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 7 October 2020 21: 07 New
      0
      And for the fourth section?
  • iouris
    iouris 7 October 2020 13: 44 New
    -10 qualifying.
    Sovereignty confirmed. For three partitions of Poland, answer with a section of "Gazprom"!
  • Yuriy71
    Yuriy71 7 October 2020 13: 44 New
    0
    Russia, fine you already for something, Poland!
    1. Artyom Volgin
      Artyom Volgin 8 October 2020 01: 54 New
      11
      Quote: Yuriy71
      Russia, fine you already for something, Poland!

      For example, because Poland has access to the Baltic Sea. wassat
  • Yuriy71
    Yuriy71 7 October 2020 13: 44 New
    0
    Russia, fine you already for something, Poland!
  • Yuriy71
    Yuriy71 7 October 2020 13: 44 New
    -1
    Russia, fine you already for something, Poland!
    1. iouris
      iouris 7 October 2020 13: 54 New
      0
      Not our method. Before the war, the Germans had a meme: "Gott, straff Engeland !!"
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    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 7 October 2020 13: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      for $ 7,6 billion will make the Polish People's Socialist Republic of Poles

      I don’t know about the country, but if I turn to companies like blackwaters / academy and the like, I think we can agree
      1. Avior
        Avior 7 October 2020 22: 27 New
        0
        I'm afraid the Blackwaters will rather collect debt for Poland ...
        Wrong owner
        1. g1washntwn
          g1washntwn 8 October 2020 07: 00 New
          0
          Quote: Avior
          I'm afraid the Blackwaters will rather collect debt for Poland

          Where? To us? Why, how ... we have been waiting for them for a long time, but still nothing.
          Once they are probably busy puffing up their cheeks.
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  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 7 October 2020 13: 50 New
    0
    I wonder if there is a country in the world that will make the Polish People's Socialist Republic out of Poles for $ 7,6 billion? wassat
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 7 October 2020 13: 52 New
    -1
    It will be fatter by 100.
    The main thing is not to choke ...
  • svoit
    svoit 7 October 2020 13: 58 New
    0
    It is not clear why Gazprom should get involved in this, sp-2 is not under the jurisdiction of Poland and its consent is not required for anything. You just have to ignore it.
  • svoit
    svoit 7 October 2020 13: 59 New
    0
    It is not clear why Gazprom should get involved in this, sp-2 is not under the jurisdiction of Poland and its consent is not required for anything. You just have to ignore it.
  • svoit
    svoit 7 October 2020 14: 00 New
    0
    It is not clear why Gazprom should get involved in this, sp-2 is not under the jurisdiction of Poland and its consent is not required for anything. You just have to ignore it.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 7 October 2020 14: 39 New
      +1
      Is your finger stuck in the button?
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 7 October 2020 15: 21 New
        0
        These are "bright lambs of exclusivity" indulge in. All sorts of bots are crammed into the tapes, so comments are generated from every sneeze.
  • alstr
    alstr 7 October 2020 14: 01 New
    +2
    I propose to impose fines on companies involved in digging the Curonian Spit.
    There will probably be more reasons.
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  • STORM 36
    STORM 36 7 October 2020 14: 04 New
    0
    Can someone clearly explain - what does the Polish jurisdiction and our Concern have to do with it ??? Are we obliged to comply with their decision ??
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 7 October 2020 14: 41 New
      0
      Quote: STORM 36
      Are we obliged to comply with their decision ??

      No, according to the newly adopted constitution, we can send everyone.
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