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Armenian Defense Ministry responded to statements about an attempt to strike at the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline

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On the eve, in the Azerbaijani blogosphere and in the segment of social networks, there were notes that, against the background of failures in Nagorno-Karabakh, Armenian forces attempted to attack the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline. Earlier it was reported that theoretically the Armenian armed forces have such an opportunity.


Shushan Stepanyan, head of the press service of the Armenian Defense Ministry, had to intervene in the situation. She said that the statements about the attempt to hit the oil pipeline were not true.

Shushan Stepanyan:

This is a blatant lie. We have repeatedly stated that oil and gas infrastructures are not our target, however, regardless of their location, all those military facilities and targets from which fire will be fired in the direction of Artsakh will be destroyed.

One of the comments from the Armenian side on Facebook to the post of Ms. Stepanyan:

If we did, they would now lose their heads in panic. They want to throw us off balance with their false accusations. Dear Shushan, deny this, of course, but do not rule out that they should not feel very calm. We must strike at everything that belongs to the enemy.

Meanwhile, the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan demonstrated new personnel from the positions of the NKR troops taken under their control.


The footage shows army trucks, crates of food, mortars, a machine-gun position, scattered personal items. On the eve of the Azerbaijani troops showed footage with such trophies as Tanksthat turned out to be on the move.
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  1. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 7 October 2020 06: 48
    +6

    Meanwhile, the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan demonstrated new personnel from the positions of the NKR troops taken under their control.

    We are waiting for the same footage from the Ministry of Defense of Armenia
    1. hrych
      hrych 7 October 2020 06: 56
      +6
      Quote: Lipchanin
      We are waiting for the same footage from the Ministry of Defense of Armenia

      Azerpropagon. Senseless and merciless wassat wassat
      1. Grits
        Grits 7 October 2020 07: 43
        +7
        Quote: hrych
        Azerpropagon. Senseless and merciless

        Oh me, me Warm tea and a hot bed await you.
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 7 October 2020 07: 11
      -16 qualifying.
      Quote: Lipchanin
      We are waiting for the same footage from the Ministry of Defense of Armenia

      The shooting of the Russian paratroopers? We won't wait.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 7 October 2020 11: 35
        +2
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        The shooting of the Russian paratroopers?

        Yes, like in the video about the shooting of anyone there was no question
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 7 October 2020 11: 41
          +1
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Yes, like in the video about the shooting of anyone there was no question

          I'm talking about the 90s.
          "Open letter to the Deputy Minister of Defense of Armenia General N. Abrahamyan

          I had a son. There were expectations, joys, hopes ... It is unbearably painful to write about this in the past tense. You killed my son, general! He killed along with his soldiers - the whole calculation of ZU-23. Three months passed after that. I'm trying and I can’t understand your psychology. How did this vile murder become possible? And who is its organizer? Deputy Minister of Defense! But you, the general, yourself served in the Armed Forces of the USSR for 34 years ...

          Our son and his soldiers did not give you the weapons that their homeland entrusted to them. With all their behavior in the last hours of their life, they did not shame the glories of this weapon. And what glory did you get for Armenia? I am deeply convinced that if your bandits were in the place of our guys, they would drop their weapons and scatter. And I’m sure because only cowards with an overwhelming superiority in forces could do so meanly. You, the general, traded the army, the glory of which is known to the whole world, for a crowd of bandits, consisting of half of criminals. Using the cowardice, and perhaps the venality of our command in Leninakan, you became insolent that you decided to put the lives of young guys from the army of a friendly country on the sacrificial stone. You have a short memory! Weren't these guys three and a half years ago pulling out your compatriots from the ruins of Leninakan and Spitak after the earthquake? Was this army helping to rebuild the cities of Armenia? So, it turns out that you fully paid for the help.

          In the very first days after the funeral, I wanted to send curses to you, General, on behalf of all the mothers and fathers of the executed soldiers, but decided that it was better to do this in an open letter through the newspaper. Let everyone know about you, and first of all your children. And if after that you can calmly look into their eyes, then you are just not a human being.

          With deep contempt

          Ivan SHAPOVALOV - father of Lieutenant Alexander SHAPOVALOV. "
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 7 October 2020 11: 42
            +1
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            I'm talking about the 90s.

            And I am discussing the article
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 7 October 2020 11: 44
              +1
              Quote: Lipchanin
              And I am discussing the article

              And my memory is so ... Malicious ...
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 7 October 2020 11: 47
                0
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                And I have such a memory

                Why discuss what happened 30 years ago? What will it give?
                Maybe let's condemn the French for the fire in Moscow in 1812
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 7 October 2020 11: 52
                  +1
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Maybe let's condemn the French for the fire in Moscow in 1812

                  Come on. Moscow was not burned by the guardians, Rostopchin stirred it up.
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 7 October 2020 11: 53
                    0
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    Rostopchin muddied it.

                    God be his judge
              2. genisis
                genisis 7 October 2020 17: 05
                +3
                General Mkrtich Abrahamyan, addressed by Shapovalov's father, died in 2008.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 7 October 2020 17: 18
                  0
                  Quote: genisis
                  General Mkrtich Abrahamyan, addressed by Shapovalov's father, died in 2008.

                  The shooting of the paratroopers in the 92nd happened, as far as I remember.
                  1. genisis
                    genisis 7 October 2020 18: 33
                    0
                    I mean, even in the Criminal Law, the case is terminated in the event of the death of the accused.
                    General Abrahamyan died, the rest of the participants in this story, who may be guilty, also left the mortal earth with a 99% probability.
                    What do you think, should I, who was born an Armenian, at the time of the events with Shapovalov and his group, who lived in such a remote and remote village of the Magadan region, that he is no longer on maps or on the ground, be responsible for the death of Russian soldiers?
                    If so, which one?
                    If not, for what purpose did you publish this material?
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 7 October 2020 19: 11
                      0
                      Quote: genisis
                      for what purpose did you publish this material?

                      And to remember ... And to know that the Armenians were not always kind to us. And then many are for the Armenians here. And I personally do not care. Let them kill each other a little.
                      1. genisis
                        genisis 7 October 2020 19: 30
                        0
                        Judging by the commentary, you yourself are still kind ...
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 7 October 2020 19: 34
                        0
                        Quote: genisis
                        Judging by the commentary, you yourself are still kind ...

                        Don't give a damn. I ran into Armenians in the 90s. At first they waved their trunks, but as we got the ax knives, they started inviting them to barbecue. Disgusting, damn it.
                      3. genisis
                        genisis 7 October 2020 21: 55
                        0
                        Give a damn

                        Yes, it’s clear. Well I grew up in Kolyma. There was such an international that no one ever asked the question of nationality. Normal guys always stayed together. They were responsible for words and deeds. In winter, they played hockey and played hockey. In the summer we climbed the hills.
                        As in Vysotsky: "... If you cut through the path with your father's sword, You wound salty tears on your mustache, If in a hot battle you experienced that how much, So, you read the necessary books in childhood."
                        Then the Union collapsed, in winter the boiler house stopped, and on the street -43-45. Naturally, the pipes burst, the village stood up and froze. We left for the regional center. It was there that for the first time in my life I heard the word "khachik". At first I did not understand what it was about. And then we saw everyone. And pontorez, and mice.
                        Among the southerners, I agree, there are many fans of theatrical effects. But this is not a nationality, in my opinion, it is a lack of education in a male company.
                        Therefore, among the Armenians there are normal boys, and among the Jews, among the Germans and Yakuts. Among the British and French. As well as rhinos among the same Kubans from different villages.
                        Therefore, I was jarred by the phrase, about let them kill each other a little. I have my cousin brother there now. And he is a normal kid, by the way. Mechanic from God. He even has an emergency call. At first I thought that he constantly breaks everything, and then I learned that on the contrary, if something breaks, an emergency happens, then he is immediately pulled up.
                        And he climbed to the front, not because the hero or there he cares about politics. And he just went, because he is 45, he is strong, knows how to shoot. And when women and babies are beaten with Tornado, it's wrong.
                        And he has never been to Russia. He can only say hello in Russian, because there was no time to study especially in the village. For now, for now. But he is no different from my Volgograd spine, specifically a Slavic kid. Our guy, courtyard.
                        And the pontorezs, even though the Armenian, even though the Busurmans will spill, Mama do not cry
                      4. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 7 October 2020 22: 03
                        +1
                        What am I leading to when I write that let them kill each other a little? Maybe their brains will stand on one side in the right place. Well, I don't see any other way out.
                      5. genisis
                        genisis 8 October 2020 00: 08
                        0
                        I'll go to you. If it doesn’t come in, correct it. There, you know, what a deal. The Armenians are also different from each other. Mine, for example, we are from the highlands, on the border with Iran. So in our family there have never been any idlers, no merchants, or bankers. All peasants or proletarian. Dad learned to be a mining master and went to the North for a ruble, like many in the Soviet Union. And all the rest of the relatives remained in Armenia. So it is not customary to mess around in those parts. To teach someone life. It is customary only to work hard, go for a walk, if the wedding is there or an anniversary, until morning, do not take someone else's and don’t give your own. And Karabakh, they are even stronger than mine. They are hot before work, know how to be friends, but are so stubborn that they are called “donkeys” in Armenian. They hardly go to Armenia either, they live to their fullest. And all the time that they live there, with whom they just did not encounter. With everyone who lives there from the old too: the Lezgins there, Avars, Talysh, got along calmly with all the centuries. And as the Turk appeared, they could not find a common language. Before the USSR, they constantly booted. The Union was not up to that. We worked, fought, worked again. And it was not in character to complain, and there was nobody. Moscow is far away, but here the cow is not milked) And so it went. Meanwhile, the prosecutor is always Azerbaijani. The head of the Department of Internal Affairs, the ROVD is always Azerbaijani. The head of the district, maybe with an Armenian surname, but not a local one, appointed from Baku and a greater "Azerbaijani" than Heydar Aliyev. And the fuel oil goes on as usual. They stole a couple of sheep from the boy, he came to the ROVD, but in the end he received a condition, they say he stole it. After the disco, three of us attacked one, not all left. Which in one was and defended himself, in the end he went to the owner. And so in many ways. And by the end of the 80s it became completely wild. As a result, some devils came and said, you are under us or you will not be here. And these "donkeys", those from Karabakh, said, and whose will you be? Where did you get the idea that you decide about us for us. Well, these people decided, the peasants are looking in front of them, they took out the trunks and let's scare. But the crosses turned out to be not timid, they took out hatchets, but they broke in with this, and they also took the trunks. These 5 came again, each time they were duped, and the back was cut in. Then they pushed them so well that they said, let's not. They have stood for 25 years, now their Pope decided that the lads were strong behind him, he decided to teach the peasants for life again. And from them everything is simple, do not take someone else's, but you will die for your own, but they will not take it away.
                      6. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 8 October 2020 00: 24
                        0
                        Quote: genisis
                        I couldn't find a common language.

                        Got it. Although I don’t understand why it is more profitable for people to fight than to find common points of contact. I remembered here a Scandinavian parable. There was one warrior father, but old and blind. He urged his son to fight with his neighbor. And the son was peaceful. Tired of hearing his father reproached him in cowardice, took the sword, and went. But he did not fight, but persuaded his neighbor. That neighbor comes to daddy, and grit, so and so, I killed your son and now I will take care of you. It was then that daddy began to cry. Eh, little people ...
                      7. One Uncle
                        One Uncle 8 October 2020 00: 59
                        0
                        For the benefit? Not at all. In the context of today, the people of Karabakh are fighting for the right to live on their land, the land of their ancestors. Sorry for pathos of course .... Aliyev is fighting for the rating. Erdogan encourages him. It is obvious to me that this conflict is somewhat beyond the framework of “the Armenians with the Azerbaijanis,” but again they did not share something. ”Is it obvious to you?
                        There is such a user here, I remembered the nickname - Alena-Baku. She voiced in general that it is already clear - one of the goals is to cut off Zangezur, thus ensuring a direct connection between Turkey and Azerbaijan. With direct access of Turkey to the Caspian Sea and the borders of the Russian Federation. Georgia with one foot in Turkey. Azerbaijan - two. What prevents the entire spread of influence in the region? That's right - Armenia. What is the reason for the beginning of the kipish - Karabakh. There were allegedly shelling. Oh well. The Germans also attacked themselves under the guise of Poles. Casus Beli. Well, in another thread, it was announced that no one million or 700 thousand refugees would return back - most of them more or less settled long ago either in Baku or in a foreign land. And no one will be able to live there - if they conquer Karabakh (which I already doubt) - there will be burnt earth, mountains of unburied corpses and so much metal in the ground that grass for the sheep will not grow. I sincerely feel sorry for these people, who became the subject of Aliyev's bargaining - they need them no more than for an internal and external show. I would steal less, go and build them tolerable housing, educate the children, and not keep them in tent camps, and not feed the people with breakfast. And by the way - why the hell are there mercenaries with the smell of international terrorists? They themselves will seize so much grief from them that mom does not grieve. Not to mention the rest of the neighbors. Just don't throw the phrase "What is your evidence" at me? I wish peace to everyone.
                      8. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 8 October 2020 01: 07
                        0
                        Quote: One Uncle
                        It is obvious to me that this conflict is somewhat beyond the framework of "Armenians and Azerbaijanis" did not share something there again. "

                        Of course it does. There is such an opinion. In 1982, in those parts of the world they discovered such oil reserves that it would take 200 years to pump for the entire globe. It was then that the Americans began to fuss. They began to sponsor nationalists. How do you like this alignment?
                    2. genisis
                      genisis 8 October 2020 02: 55
                      +1
                      Common points can be found if we see the world in the same way. I plow, you plow, why should we compare with pussies? We grieve together, we walk together, we help, if anything. There is nothing to divide. I don't need yours, you don't look at mine. When you work, sometimes you have no time, no desire, no strength to look around. And when you work, and I don’t want to work, I want you to walk under me. Patamushta is more of us, we are with knives, and in general, we must be afraid. And I see the world so that I myself am afraid of those who are stronger than me, and I want to cut wool from those who are weaker. And I do not want to negotiate with you, because I consider you a sucker, and suckers need to be cut. And you turn out to be an even kid in life, you yourself do not pinch anyone, but you do not give yourself offense either. And when such a fraer comes to you, you first talk to him. He seems to be talking too, you even seem to find a common language. But a little time passes, he sees that you are not pinching him, then you are a sucker, and you can be pinched. The system is such coordinates. You cannot be equal. Either he is the master or the servant. And here he, leaning, begins to raise his voice a little at you, and then in the sentence it sounds, they say, I order you. After that, you have to pull the fraer from heaven to earth.
                      Their worldview is good, their proverb explains: "The hand that you cannot cut off, kiss and put it to your forehead."
                      And I don't want to chop anything. I just plow on a tractor, because I have to sow, I have no time.
                      So it turns out that everyone who lives there: Armenians, Lezgins, Tsukhurs, Rutuls, Udins, Tats, Talysh have been sowing, reaping, harvesting for centuries, and the Turks came and said, they say, we will chop off our hands. The Armenians were able to throw off the yoke, but they did not have enough strength to crush it to the end. And they sit with a thorn in the eye, of course, the indigenous people see that it is possible, it turns out, not only not to lose a hand, but also to drive out the cutter. That infuriates the Turk. He understands whether it is early or late, but he will be asked for everything. Like the Talysh stone bulls were stolen from the tombstones and taken to Nakhichevan, they say these are our Turkish monuments. As Hazi Aslanov, Talysh, twice Hero of the USSR, they were recorded as Turks. Lezgins, Avars and Talysh are sent to the front line like boys recruits.
                      In the 1991-1994 war, there was the Talysh battalion. Men fought normally, with dignity. Like the Armenians, they never left their own people, if there was the slightest opportunity, they always took the bodies of the fallen from the battlefield. And a couple of years ago Alikram Humbatov came to Yerevan. I met with those who were on the other side. They spoke worthily, because they fought the same way. Neither women, nor children, not in the form of people, neither they nor ours touched. A man only fights with a man.
                      And those who burned old people alive in Sumgayit, raped girls in a crowd, some in Baku, Kirovobad threw the weak on the asphalt from the balconies of their neighbors, who beat them for 100 days from BM-21 in a defenseless city, well, what can we talk to him about?
                    3. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 8 October 2020 03: 33
                      0
                      Quote: genisis
                      I plow, you plow, why should we compare with pussies? We grieve together, we walk together, we help, if anything. There is nothing to divide. I don't need yours, you don't look at mine. When you work, sometimes you have no time, no desire, no strength to look around.

                      Vooot ... Golden words. Everything would be like this, and there would be no wars. Eh, utopia. There will always be those who want to take away from the weaker. And the correct arguments will be found. request
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  • Bakinec
    Bakinec 7 October 2020 06: 57
    -30 qualifying.
    Armenian terrorism is known throughout the world. They will stop at nothing to stop the advance of the Azerbaijani army. And I would not be surprised if the Armenians themselves launch a missile strike at 102 bases to blame Azerbaijan later. After all, the tales about f16 did not pass.
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 7 October 2020 07: 10
      25
      For a person who writes under the nickname "Baku resident" and begins with the words "Armenian terrorism" - faith "0", do not bother to continue your opuses.
      As well as a hypothetical "Yerevanian" with statements about "Azerbaijani terrorism".
      Feed your bikes to each other, in your Internet segments.
      1. Bakinec
        Bakinec 7 October 2020 07: 48
        -7
        You're not right. The Armenians organized terrorist acts in Lebanon, France, etc., about which you can find a sufficient number of articles on the Internet.
        Here is an example: on January 8, 1977, a series of terrorist attacks were carried out in Moscow. According to the official Soviet version and according to a number of modern researchers, Armenian terrorists (Hakob Stepanyan, Zaven Baghdasaryan and Stepan Zatikyan) carried out three explosions: in the train carriage between Izmailovskaya and Pervomayskaya stations, shop No. 15 in the Bauman region, and street October 25. As a result of these terrorist acts, 7 people were killed and 37 injured. The same group of terrorists was preparing to carry out a series of explosions on the eve of November 7, 1977 at the Kursk railway station in Moscow. Hakob Stepanyan and Zaven Baghdasaryan were arrested on the Moscow-Yerevan train in the fall of 1977, and then Stepan Zatikyan was arrested in Armenia
        Let some Yerevanian (or you) give an example. terrorism
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 7 October 2020 09: 08
          +5
          Quote: Bakinec
          You're not right. The Armenians organized terrorist acts in Lebanon, France, etc., about which you can find a sufficient number of articles on the Internet.
          Here is an example: on January 8, 1977, a series of terrorist attacks were carried out in Moscow. According to the official Soviet version and according to a number of modern researchers, Armenian terrorists (Hakob Stepanyan, Zaven Baghdasaryan and Stepan Zatikyan) carried out three explosions: in the train carriage between Izmailovskaya and Pervomayskaya stations, shop No. 15 in the Bauman region, and street October 25. As a result of these terrorist acts, 7 people were killed and 37 injured. The same group of terrorists was preparing to carry out a series of explosions on the eve of November 7, 1977 at the Kursk railway station in Moscow. Hakob Stepanyan and Zaven Baghdasaryan were arrested on the Moscow-Yerevan train in the fall of 1977, and then Stepan Zatikyan was arrested in Armenia
          Let some Yerevanian (or you) give an example. terrorism

          ===
          all this is true, there are enough fanatics among the Armenians. and a question for you, why do noble Azerbaijanis iron Stepanakert?
          1. Bakinec
            Bakinec 7 October 2020 09: 38
            -2
            A counter question - why are Armenians bombing Ganja, Barda, Yevlakh, Agjabedi, Ter-ter, Shamkir, Mingachevir?
            P / S / these strange words are the name of Azerbaijani cities
            1. Victorio
              Victorio 7 October 2020 09: 40
              +1
              Quote: Bakinec
              A counter question - why are Armenians bombing Ganja, Barda, Yevlakh, Agjabedi, Ter-ter, Shamkir, Mingachevir?
              P / S / these strange words are the name of Azerbaijani cities

              ===
              You did not answer the question? there is nothing to answer, for they themselves have a stigma in the cannon.
              1. Bakinec
                Bakinec 7 October 2020 09: 46
                -9
                I answered, but you probably do not benefit from my answer, so pretend to be a hose.
                1. Victorio
                  Victorio 7 October 2020 09: 50
                  +2
                  Quote: Bakinec
                  I answered, but my answer is probably not beneficial to you, therefore pretend to be a hose.

                  ===
                  Azerbaijan is firing at civilians of Stepanakert - is that the answer ?! then yes, no questions. and no rudeness, please.
            2. maiman61
              maiman61 7 October 2020 16: 37
              +1
              Don’t worry. soon there won't be any strange names after release.
            3. One Uncle
              One Uncle 8 October 2020 01: 04
              +2
              They are firing at some military targets, I suppose. They shoot back. PS Arayik warned you more than once - stop shooting at residential areas with Tornadoes with cassette filling. Ask those who didn't hear it.
          2. Isim soyad
            Isim soyad 7 October 2020 10: 44
            -2
            1. In Khankendi no
            civilian population
            , all were evacuated to Iravan, since September 29-30, officially declared about it, the illegal self-proclaimed government of Karabakh. They themselves, Armenians, wrote about this for several days, and without thinking about this statement, then declare about the shelling of "peaceful residents of Khankendi". Where is the logic.
            2. In Khankendi, they fired at gangs formations and equipment. What they themselves will not show, and this is clear to everyone. Only footage where you can prove that there is shelling. And separate shots of screams.
            3.
            Azerbaijan is fighting on the unanimously recognized by all UN and OSCE members, on its territory, in its cities, regions and villages with "occupiers, aggressors and illegal gangs" (based on 4 UN and OSCE resolutions) !!!

            5. Based on 4 UN and OSCE resolutions on the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, residents of the Azerbaijani city of Khankendi, must be citizens of Azerbaijan, with Azerbaijani registrations of place of residence... So in this case, to consider any illegally residing occupant in the Azerbaijani city of Khankendi, who, through aggression, murder and crimes of Armenian gangs, have seized part of the territory of Azerbaijan, as civilians, is already a crime. Regardless of gender and age.
            6. Even if, "theoretically" to imagine that this is how they say it, and if the law would allow it, and would be on their side, then believe me, they, having such influential diaspora and support (France, USA, etc. ), would have long slept in front of the door of the Hague MC. The law is on our side, even though whoever lives there is illegal.
            1. Victorio
              Victorio 7 October 2020 10: 50
              0
              Quote: Isim Soyad
              1. There is no civilian population in Khankendi, all evacuated in Iravan, since September 29-30, officially this was announced by the illegal self-proclaimed government of Karabakh. They, Armenians, wrote about this for several days, and without thinking about this statement, then declare about shelling "civilians of Khankendi". Where is the logic.

              ===
              it is unlikely. Well, secondly, where is the logic in general in the shelling, empty according to your convictions, the city against the background of brave reports on successful actions and offensives?
              1. Isim soyad
                Isim soyad 7 October 2020 10: 58
                -2
                I understand your dislike for us, Azerbaijanis, but you don't need to write something in order to write something so that you don't need to denigrate. I wrote about this on the second paragraph. I will add it again as a sign of respect.

                2. In Khankendi, they fired at gangs formations and equipment. What they themselves will not show, and this is clear to everyone. Only footage where you can prove that there is shelling. And separate shots of screams.
                1. Victorio
                  Victorio 7 October 2020 11: 03
                  +1
                  Quote: Isim Soyad
                  I understand your dislike for us, Azerbaijanis, but you don't need to write something in order to write something so that you don't need to denigrate. I wrote about this on the second paragraph. I will add it again as a sign of respect.

                  2. In Khankendi, they fired at gangs formations and equipment. What they themselves will not show, and this is clear to everyone. Only footage where you can prove that there is shelling. And separate shots of screams.

                  ===
                  there is no dislike. I wrote and meant only that both sides are good, and both states are to blame for the military conflict. and this is irritating just because all this ultimately weakens Russia and its peoples.
                  1. Isim soyad
                    Isim soyad 7 October 2020 11: 56
                    -2
                    This is correct, I agree from your point of view, from "your" side. In this, the "majority" is to blameGDP itself". It was necessary to decide in due time, to push, and decide 4 resolutions. And he, tightening and selling / for free both weapons, from time to time, pushing / creating an adventure, in order to show by circumstance which side, in whose hands the bridle , and it was wrong to consider such a policy correct.
                    IMHO. The GDP was miscalculated in the July adventures, pushing Pshik. They say the border, Aliyev will keep silent, will reduce transit, Turkey will increase from the Russian Federation, and Pashinyan will be slightly shaken. And this, Erdogan did not like it (again, IMHO, and + they have an interest in the pipeline) and received approval / support from the USA, Great Britain, Israel and for the company of Italy. And it was these countries in July that were the first to accuse Armenia of aggressive actions and escalation of the conflict. They knew that if you did not answer adequately, it would be periodically. Well, after that, knowing the players of VVP, I could not do anything. And now, it is beneficial to him, Pashinyan, his own people will be pushed aside, and the GDP will push Ter-Petrosyan to his place. And so he will have an ally in the South Caucasus, but without Azerbaijan. And not only because of this. There is something even more serious.
                    1. Victorio
                      Victorio 7 October 2020 12: 10
                      -1
                      Quote: Isim Soyad
                      In this, the "majority" is to blame "VVP itself."

                      ===
                      GDP and Russia are not to blame for the war started, you and the Armenians started it. and test all its charms on your scruffs. it's easier for you if you blame others, that's your business.
                      1. Isim soyad
                        Isim soyad 7 October 2020 12: 21
                        -1
                        Again, I'll write, don't just write. As an Azerbaijani, I know Russian very well, r. 70, cf. and high. arr. Russian.
                        1. About "Russia" I did not write anything if I did not notice.
                        2. What and why GDP is to blame, I have explained to you on the shelf, if you read it carefully.
                        3. Our scruffs, we are not going to translate to someone.
                        4. Good luck to you. hi
                      2. Victorio
                        Victorio 7 October 2020 12: 36
                        +1
                        Quote: Isim Soyad
                        I know Russian very well

                        ===
                        however, this contradicts
                        Quote: Isim Soyad
                        3. Our scruffs, we are not going to translate to someone.
                        ??

                        Quote: Isim Soyad
                        2. What and why GDP is to blame, I have explained to you on the shelf, if you read it carefully.

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                        once again, this war was started by you and the Armenians. dot. everything else blah blah blah.
                  2. ccsr
                    ccsr 7 October 2020 12: 34
                    0
                    Quote: Isim Soyad
                    And he, tightening and selling / for free both weapons, from time to time, pushing / creating an adventure, to show, by circumstance, which side, in whose hands the bridle, and by this to consider such a policy correct, it was wrong.

                    Yes, he is not to blame, but you yourself are all like that, and do not powder the brains of those who were born and lived in the USSR, because we remember well your nationalism in relation to all persons of a non-titular nation, whether in Armenia, or in Azerbaijan or in Georgia. , and the flight of Russians from the Caucasus.
                    As for the strike on the oil pipeline, I am honestly even surprised why the Armenians did not finance the Kurdish detachments, which could be used to undermine this important pipeline both in Turkey and in Georgia. Either they love money too much, and they feel sorry for spending it on sabotage activities, or they think that Russia will once again solve all the problems for them.
                    Quote: Isim Soyad
                    And now, it is beneficial to him, Pashinyan, his own people will be pushed aside, and the GDP will push Ter-Petrosyan to his place. And so he will have an ally in the South Caucasus, but without Azerbaijan. And not only because of this. There is something even more serious.

                    Yes, we do not care about you as allies - you are corrupt in essence, and hardly anyone will become our ally in the Caucasus, so solve your own problems. Putin will make a big mistake if he suddenly wants to reconcile you - it's better to sell you weapons, maybe you can calm down faster when you get tired of fighting. Let the West reconcile you - and the more it gets bogged down in this process, the calmer we will be.
                    1. Isim soyad
                      Isim soyad 7 October 2020 12: 39
                      -3
                      The level of education and intelligence is off scale. Speak for yourself and spit in the mirror while looking at yourself. Good luck
          3. One Uncle
            One Uncle 8 October 2020 01: 07
            0
            There are already 150 videos showing how civilians are being fired upon. Today Laura with her KVO 10 meters away got to the recreation center. Military purpose? Or did they shoot randomly?
            PS Right now there are reports about the shelling of Stepanakert
            1. Isim soyad
              Isim soyad 8 October 2020 08: 12
              0
              And nothing that, civilians, in the cities of Azerbaijan, are bombarded with tornadoes and U points from Armenia. Killed 30 civilians and 2 girls, 8 and 10 years old?
      2. Bakinec
        Bakinec 7 October 2020 09: 34
        -3
        More than 3 hours passed. I'm waiting for examples. terrorism
      3. Isim soyad
        Isim soyad 7 October 2020 09: 52
        -1
        At 17:31, a train arrived from the center of the capital at the Izmailovskaya station (Arbatsko-Pokrovskaya line). The first bomb exploded at 17:33 in a Moscow metro carriage on the stretch between Izmailovskaya and Pervomayskaya stations. The second explosion occurred at 18:05 in the trading floor of grocery store No. 15 on Dzerzhinsky Street (now Bolshaya Lubyanka), not far from the buildings of the KGB of the USSR. The third bomb exploded at 18:10 near grocery store No. 5 on October 25 (now Nikolskaya) street. As a result, 7 people were killed (all - in the first explosion in the subway), 37 were injured [1] [2]. The investigation identified three perpetrators: Armenian nationalists Stepan Zatikyan, Hakob Stepanyan and Zaven Baghdasaryan ...
    2. Isim soyad
      Isim soyad 7 October 2020 09: 51
      0
      Approximately 700 residents of Khojaly did not leave the city along the "humanitarian" corridor provided by the Armenian militants. They preferred to hide in the basements of their houses, but their fate was just as dire. The city was swept by a wave of violence and looting. The militants killed people just for fun, raped children in front of their parents, cut the stomachs of pregnant women and tied them with barbed wire and nailed them to crosses. “We did it ... so that they (Azerbaijanis) would be afraid of us.” S. Sargsyan
    3. Isim soyad
      Isim soyad 7 October 2020 09: 53
      -1
      Orly airport explosion - terrorist act committed by the Armenian
      Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA), which resulted in 8
      people were killed and 55 people were injured ...
    4. Isim soyad
      Isim soyad 7 October 2020 09: 53
      -1
      I will not name Adranik in any way ... call it what you want ... the man who slaughtered women, children ... the man who ran to take revenge on the Sultan's severed ear ... thousands of kilometers from Istanbul ... to be honest .. judging by his atrocities ... it seems to me that the sultan not only cut off his ear ...-)))

      As noted by the German historian, professor at the University of Berlin. Humboldt Jörg Baberovski, “in early September 1918 Andranik's partisans plundered and plundered 18 Muslim villages and killed 500 women.” The property of the expelled and killed residents went to the Armenians. During the autumn, the number of Muslim refugees reached a peak .... About 50 Muslims were expelled from their villages in the Zangezur district, who fled to the neighboring Jebrail and Jevanshir districts. As a result of attacks by Armenian armed groups, more than 000 villages were completely destroyed and about 100 people were killed ...
    5. Bakinec
      Bakinec 7 October 2020 13: 50
      0
      More than 7 hours passed. I'm waiting for examples. terrorism
  • Insurgent
    Insurgent 7 October 2020 08: 57
    +1
    Quote: Bakinec
    Armenian terrorism is known throughout the world. They will stop at nothing to stop the advance of the Azerbaijani army. And I would not be surprised if the Armenians themselves launch a missile strike at 102 bases to blame Azerbaijan later.

    It is a fact that only one force can suppress radical extremism on both sides. And it won't be Turkey ...
    You can forget about the wet dreams of turning the Transcaucasia into a Turkic spirit - "One nation, two states", but you can forget about the implementation of the Pan-Turkism strategy.

    It was said long ago.

    Although the USSR no longer exists, but Russia, with its interests in the region, has not gone anywhere ...

    1. uranium
      uranium 7 October 2020 09: 21
      0
      In addition to Russia, Iran also has interests, so this conflict must be resolved. No one needs a powder keg in the South Caucasus.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 7 October 2020 10: 03
        -1
        Quote: uran
        In addition to Russia, there are interests of Iran

        It is more expedient for Iran, in its short pants, to stand aside while Russia is solving the problems that have arisen in the once common space.

        Iran's participation in the process is possible only when it is invited by offering cooperation ...
    2. Bakinec
      Bakinec 7 October 2020 09: 40
      +2
      What pan-Turkism, in Azerbaijan multiculturalism is at the highest level. It is not for nothing that Israel helps us, and Russia does not interfere.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 7 October 2020 10: 04
        -1
        Quote: Bakinec
        What pan-Turkism, in Azerbaijan multiculturalism is at the highest level.

        Ka-a-a-notna ... "One nation, two states".
        Quote: Bakinec
        It's not for nothing that Israel helps us

        "More deals": Israel ready to apologize to Armenia for arms supplies Baku
        https://politobzor.net/222834-bolshe-sdelok-izrail-gotov-prinesti-izvineniya-armenii-za-postavki-oruzhiya-baku.html?utm_source=topwar.ru
        1. Isim soyad
          Isim soyad 7 October 2020 10: 53
          0
          And at the same time conclude more multi-billion dollar deals hi laughing laughing laughing
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 7 October 2020 11: 24
    0
    Quote: Bakinec
    Armenian terrorism is known throughout the world.

    I speak like a mother, like a woman
  • uranium
    uranium 7 October 2020 07: 26
    +2
    Armenia is trying with all its might to involve Russia in the war and push it against Turkey. Apparently Pashinyan is following orders from the West or Soros.
    1. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 7 October 2020 07: 44
      -1
      Quote: uran
      Armenia is trying with all its might to involve Russia in the war and push it against Turkey. Apparently Pashinyan is following orders from the West or Soros.

      What the hell did I just read? 0_o '
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 7 October 2020 10: 22
        0
        Quote: Kuroneko
        What the hell did I just read? 0_o '

        Attempts of Azerbaijani propaganda to present themselves as white and fluffy ...
        1. Bakinec
          Bakinec 7 October 2020 16: 28
          -1
          https://daytube.az/videos/97401/
          Pashinyan calls Putin
    2. the finish
      the finish 7 October 2020 07: 45
      +3
      Does old Soros even know that the whole world is following his instructions?
  • Stavros
    Stavros 7 October 2020 07: 46
    +5
    Quote: uran
    Armenia is trying with all its might to involve Russia in the war and push it against Turkey. Apparently Pashinyan is following orders from the West or Soros.

    Damn it, again this soros sticking its nose everywhere. Aren't you tired of remembering soros everywhere?
    Having received no answer for the plane and the ambassador, the Recep realized that he could become impudent further, so soon it would not be surprising if barmaley with Azerbaijani passports appeared in Russia.
    1. uranium
      uranium 7 October 2020 09: 17
      0
      You are trying to pass off as reality there is no evidence. The fact that a board flew from Lebanon to Yerevan yesterday, you are silent, probably on board were peaceful Lebanese Armenians whom they wanted to settle in the occupied territories of Azerbaijan.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 7 October 2020 10: 46
      +2
      Quote: Stavros
      Damn it, again this soros sticking its nose everywhere. Aren't you tired of remembering soros everywhere?

      Azerbaijan has no other arguments ... They use what they have ...
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 7 October 2020 07: 47
    +2
    As I understand it, the Armenians are raising their paws, otherwise how can they explain Pashinyan's statement about his readiness to make concessions. And there was a cry, yes I, yes we, yes we will defeat everyone. It was not a damn thing to start a mess.
  • dgonni
    dgonni 7 October 2020 08: 44
    -3
    What the press secretary says is one thing, but what the interested parties actually know. Therefore, if there was such an attempt, and it seems to have happened, then the Armenian side should not even count on any thread of international support or even sympathy. For people who have a small percentage of each barrel of oil strongly dislike any unexpected surprises.
    So, in this regard, Yerevan's position is a losing one.
    1. genisis
      genisis 7 October 2020 09: 13
      +1
      Therefore, if there was such an attempt, and apparently it was

      If the command of the Artsakh Defense Army issues an order to destroy the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline, the Baku-Tbilisi-Erzurum gas pipeline and other stationary energy infrastructure facilities of Azerbaijan, then this will not be an attempt, but a missile and artillery strike that will destroy both pipelines and pumping stations. Because the target is stationary, the coordinates are known, what are the attempts for?!? Do you really think that there is any difficulty in destroying such a target?
      1. dgonni
        dgonni 7 October 2020 10: 07
        0
        Does the Artsakh Defense Army have OTRK or other weapons capable of delivering an accurate strike? And can the Artsakh army make such a decision? Or does Yerevan make the decision?
        1. genisis
          genisis 7 October 2020 10: 41
          0
          Why is there greater accuracy when hitting an area target? MLRS will be more than enough.


          Naturally, Stepanakert will not make the decision alone.
  • uranium
    uranium 7 October 2020 09: 19
    +2
    Yesterday there was a statement by Pashinyan's advisor on Russian TV, where he bluntly said that Armenia would strike at the peaceful cities of Azerbaijan far in the rear.
    1. Isim soyad
      Isim soyad 7 October 2020 15: 46
      -4
      and how many people liked it here, and were delighted to kill children
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 October 2020 09: 57
    +3
    In a military conflict, the parties always accuse each other even of something that has not yet happened and could not even have happened. You read the comments of the militant Azerbaijanis and ask yourself a question: why are you, respected, engaged in propaganda in VO, and not fighting for your (what do you think) territory with arms in hand? Over the past week, too many of you have suddenly registered on the site, so it seems that this is a targeted action.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 7 October 2020 11: 19
      -3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      and why are you, respected, engaged in propaganda in the VO, and not fighting for your (as you think) territory with weapons in your hands?

      Because Azerbaijan has introduced a PARTIAL mobilization. A huge number of people have not yet been called up in Azerbaijan itself. The borders with Russia are closed, only through Turkey the agenda should come. And those who are citizens of the Russian Federation are the last thing, when there is a strong shortage. Therefore, their jokes are with you. The Azerbaijanis are all ready with pleasure, a bunch of guys have turned to the consulates and embassies. Answer 1 There is NO need.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 7 October 2020 12: 15
        +5
        First of all, I am not teasing. Secondly, aren't you too hyped on the site - I will "win" everyone? You also claim that they are wary of your belligerence. To put it bluntly, Turkey will not allow trading in its markets so freely, because its enough. And you have already licked it to the ground, even stitching flags into one. So don't la, la. You live in Russia, behave yourself and do not incite interethnic hatred (not about you personally). Am I making myself clear?
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 7 October 2020 19: 03
          0
          Quote: rotmistr60
          First, I am not teasing

          you hint at cowardice, a direct joke.
          Quote: rotmistr60
          To put it bluntly, Turkey will not allow trading in its markets so freely, because its enough

          maybe already enough to live with stereotypes, Azerbaijanis have long been earning not on the markets for a long time. Markets, as a sphere in the wrong position, hello shopping centers and those born in Russia in 99% of the markets.

          Quote: rotmistr60
          You live in Russia, behave yourself and do not incite ethnic hatred (not about you personally). Am I making myself clear?

          what does incitement of interethnic hatred mean for you ?? A call to leave the lands occupied by the Armenian army, which Russia officially recognizes as Azerbaijani ?? This is not incitement.
          And the other is not called upon, everyone knows the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, except in individual cases, because everyone has relatives who howl there and when a loved one dies it is difficult to restrain themselves.
    2. Bakinec
      Bakinec 7 October 2020 13: 55
      -2
      Because over the past week, too many Armenian fake-throwers have divorced on this site with their Syrian mercenaries and Turkish F16. And there are too many articles in the style of Margarita Simonyan.
    3. uranium
      uranium 8 October 2020 20: 33
      0
      Unfortunately or fortunately, there is partial mobilization in Azerbaijan.
  • Stavros
    Stavros 7 October 2020 10: 36
    0
    Quote: Isim Soyad
    I will not name Adranik in any way ... call it what you want ... the man who slaughtered women, children ... the man who ran to avenge the severed ear of the Sultan

    Andranik was a military tsarist officer, who fucked the Turks into their mane and tail. And your stories about the ear are simply ridiculous, blurted out one of the others continued.
  • Old Orc
    Old Orc 7 October 2020 11: 41
    0
    Something in the captured positions there is no indication that the engineering reconnaissance has passed and there are no mines so dumb.
  • Old26
    Old26 7 October 2020 11: 43
    +2
    Quote: genisis
    If the command of the Artsakh Defense Army issues an order to destroy the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline, the Baku-Tbilisi-Erzurum gas pipeline and other stationary energy infrastructure facilities of Azerbaijan, then this will not be an attempt, but a missile and artillery strike that will destroy both pipelines and pumping stations. Because the target is stationary, the coordinates are known, what are the attempts for?!? Do you really think that there is any difficulty in destroying such a target?

    The complexity is there. Of course, it is easier to work at substations, but getting through the pipeline itself is quite difficult, especially if you use MLRS or ballistic missiles. At least a missile strike may not be effective the first time and the other side will send a response
    Any order can be given, but sometimes it is quite difficult to fulfill it ...



    Quote: dgonni
    Does the Artsakh Defense Army have OTRK or other weapons capable of delivering an accurate strike? And can the Artsakh army make such a decision? Or does Yerevan make the decision?

    Able to strike - there is. Exact - no. KVO of the same "Elbrus" - in the area of ​​1 km, KVO "Tochki-U" from 50 to 250 m
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  • border
    border 7 October 2020 16: 30
    +1
    Quote: Insurgent
    Quote: uran
    In addition to Russia, there are interests of Iran

    It is more expedient for Iran, in its short pants, to stand aside while Russia is solving the problems that have arisen in the once common space.
    Iran's participation in the process is possible only when it is invited by offering cooperation ...

    and the transit of military cargo to the 102nd military base of the RF Ministry of Defense under the ground or from space ??
    Quote: Insurgent
    and the transit of military cargo to the 102nd military base of the RF Ministry of Defense under the ground or from space ??
  • One Uncle
    One Uncle 8 October 2020 01: 11
    0
    Quote: uran
    You are trying to pass off as reality there is no evidence. The fact that a board flew from Lebanon to Yerevan yesterday, you are silent, probably on board were peaceful Lebanese Armenians whom they wanted to settle in the occupied territories of Azerbaijan.
    This is how flights have always been. Vaughn Silkway regularly runs a minibus to Israel and back. So what?
  • One Uncle
    One Uncle 8 October 2020 01: 13
    0
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: One Uncle
    It is obvious to me that this conflict is somewhat beyond the framework of "Armenians and Azerbaijanis" did not share something there again. "

    Of course it does. There is such an opinion. In 1982, in those parts of the world they discovered such oil reserves that it would take 200 years to pump for the entire globe. It was then that the Americans began to fuss. They began to sponsor nationalists. How do you like this alignment?

    More than real hi And not only in this region. And not only in the late 80s. Smoldered everywhere. The Bolsheviks did a lot of things
  • One Uncle
    One Uncle 8 October 2020 01: 22
    0
    Quote: Ros 56
    As I understand it, the Armenians are raising their paws, otherwise how can they explain Pashinyan's statement about his readiness to make concessions. And there was a cry, yes I, yes we, yes we will defeat everyone. It was not a damn thing to start a mess.

    It was taken out of context. Journalists also lose their nerves sometimes. But they also love sensations, well, there are loud headlines. Again, nothing human is alien to them. And Pashinyan announced his readiness for commensurate (!) Concessions. But he did not raise his paws up.